Grrl Power #991 – Demon double dipping
Dabbler telling Sydney about Astral nasties.
I think coming up with made up names is a skill like drawing or… I don’t know, throwing axes. I used to get really stuck when making up weird fantasy words, like all I’d be able think of would be the word “fnrrrg” or something, but most of those names on the demon whiteboard aren’t actually terrible? Well, a few are supposed to be sub-optimal since that’s always going to happen when you’re focus-grouping stuff.
Panel 5 is my little tribute to Norm MacDonald. I was going to name him as a character in the Who’s Who, but only if I could come up with a Demony sounding name that kind of sounded like his real name, but the best I could manage was “Norm MacDemon” or “Swarm (of Locusts) MacDonald.” Or… Swarm MacDemon, I guess, but that’s starting to drift off point a bit too far.
Tamer: Enhancer 2 – Progress Update:
About 2/3 done with my editing pass. I’d like to say I’ll have it done in a week, but I might have to prioritize the next nudie pinup thing. I accidentally put 4 characters in it like a dummy, so it’ll take slightly longer to shade them all up all nice.
October’s vote incentive is up! This is a redraw of a comic I did in 2011 I think, but never published. I had originally pictured the comic going through an establishment phase, and then taking occasional breaks from the storylines for little one-off moments like these. Which I guess I could still do. I just got wrapped up in the story telling and forgot.
So Dabbler and Sydney are up late one evening on night watch but Dabbler has just discovered Cinemax…
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Does anyone have a handy link to that conversation?
Dave does, in the commentary
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/comic/grrl-power-813-metaphysics-101/
Ooh, I had completely forgotten about Tamatha.
It seems I am overdue a complete re-read!
*wags tail in anticipation*
Hey, if his guys invade ANYWAYS, we could get another Aranea cameo, since she could take out some demons that actually DESERVE it.
I kept reloading the page to catch the new before bed, but I still missed it.
Anywho, the red skinned hottie with the ox horns does a decent job as a spokes-model.
I should be more specific as to the breed of cattle/ox I think those are Kankrej horns.
Nice face. Although, when comparing spokeswomen with similar tastes in clothing, I prefer the new CIA operative, with “three weeks of training” (from the latest Bond film).
One of the things that make be glad to be Bisexual, I want to meet that hottie! Rawr!!!!!
Cleavage sells.
I guess the compe-titty-on must be hard among succubi.
They keep abreast …
Only way to nip things before they get completely out of hand.
Hopefully the succubi will see the value of lifting and supporting their oen kind even when competing.
Isn’t that just making mountains out of molehills?
Have you people no shame?
Even trying to corrupt poor, innocent, lovable Yorpie with your pun-filled ways!
No shame. No mercy. Pun everyone and everything, including yourself.
Won’t stop, not even if sued for punative damages.
If Concretia were here, she’d get statutory damages
With all these damages, we’ll be repainting for weeks.
I require payment for emulsional damage.
At least we’re aggregating all this material into well-formed threads instead of letting it bounce all over the place.
Concretia could litigate that, if she first passes the rebar exam
“why were you so offended?” oh like evil can’t play offended. It’s actually a great tool, both efficient against the easily guilt-tripped and hilarious when it’s pulled off. Well, hilarious for we on the evil side. That said, it’s the “evil side”, not the “arsehole side”, so we still have standards about how to do that :P
Yeah, was just about to post something similar
Yeah, about the ‘not being an arsehole’ thing: playing DCUO and part of the Villain side of the Halloween event is… torturing the already-traumatized Treakers (have no problem during he Christmas event, blowing up the little gift-thieves is what they damn well deserve… and more!)
We are villains, not arseholes, but… no one else seems to agree with me :(
Acting offended is sadly a great weapon to try and redirect attention away from culpability whether you be a politician, a demon, a devil, a fiend or a con artist [which technically covers politicians, demons, devils, fiends and far too many others].
It need not be acting. Humans get offended on behalf of other humans all the time. I’m not Asian, but if you insult Asians in front of me, I’ll take you to task for it.
I have friends who will get insulted if you assume they’re one type of asian when they’re another. Korean instead of vietnamese, or japanese instead of korean, or chinese/japanese instead of laotian (ie, like on King of the Hill with Kahn), etc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Zo-CxHxDTc
Hank’s father, Cotton, knew the difference though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxI5qQAUWVc
Plus with mixed race people (or infernals, I guess?), I can see how it would be a little insulting to have someone completely dismiss one half of your heritage, when you’re living your life moreso following tenets of the other half. I’m would not get insulted myself, but I’m guessing ‘chaos’ gets a bad rap compared to ‘order,’, and I can see how poor Tom might be touchy on it.
I feel for you, Tom!
They’re not chaos demons, they’re frustrated creative types! Which explains quite a lot, really…
Orrrr he might actually be offended since he does want order, not chaos. Just unfairly offended because he shouldnt expect Sydney to know the intricacies of demon society when she only knows pop culture and biblical references to them, which are apparently largely based on millenia of demons literally supporting chaos.
Just because someone is ignorant over a race (species?), the one being insulted shouldn’t be offended by the ignorant comments? o_O
I think that the intent of the person making an ignorant comment should be taken into consideration.
Yeah, there is a very big difference between making definitive statements that are offensive and seeking a better understanding and asking potentially offensive questions because you are literally too ignorant to know better. I run into the latter problem a lot when I try to learn about gender stuff, which is problematic because I keep accidentally offending people before I can get my questions answered. In my experience people as a whole tend to be bad about differentiating between a bigot and someone who wants to be supportive but is too ignorant to do so appropriately.
Some people get tired of answering “innocent questions” that turn out not to be so innocent. It’s hard to tell the difference between someone who is genuinely ignorant, but honestly asking questions and wanting to learn, and someone who is trying to harass, intimidate, or just make them uncomfortable, while feigning innocence. Once you’ve been bitten enough times, you start getting defensive, because it feels like the malicious far outnumber the genuine.
You really shouldn’t assume to know what’s going on in other people’s minds as to intent unless you either 1) have evidence, or 2) have developed telepathy, which is probably possible in the Grrlpower universe but less so in ours. :)
Like I said, the intent should be taken into account. What you’re describing is assuming maliciousness.
Now, to bring this back to the original topic, instead of a tangent, Sydney is not being intentionally malicious in asking questions – she’s just naturally inquisitive and does not know anything about demons. Which she won’t learn unless she asks questions. Which is why I said that Tom should not assume that Sydney knows the intricacies of demon society. Because she has no reason to know that. She’s only been a supehero that interacted at all with any demons for a few weeks (from her perpsective). Plus she has ADHD which probably hampers her retention a bit from things she does learn when her meds run out.
How do you take intent into account, when you can’t know what’s going on in other people’s minds?
If a particular conversation goes badly 9 times out of 10 with random strangers, why would you assume it would go well with future random strangers?
Tom may not know anything more about Sydney’s social context than she knows of his. People tend to operate on the basis of their own knowledge, because it’s awfully hard to operate on the basis of things you don’t know. From Tom’s perspective, this may be something “everyone” knows. He probably doesn’t know anything about how long Sydney’s been a superhero, or what that even means, or how it’s relevant.
“He probably doesn’t know anything about how long Sydney’s been a superhero, or what that even means, or how it’s relevant.” Or how powerful she really is, If he knew she wielding Nth level power, he may reconsider his words.
So, basically, Sydney gets to be a bully because she can PewPew them or Causeway them into a sun if they say anything?
“How do you take intent into account, when you can’t know what’s going on in other people’s minds?”
A little known skill called conversation.
“If a particular conversation goes badly 9 times out of 10 with random strangers, why would you assume it would go well with future random strangers?”
1) Why are you bringing up all these modifiers which have NOT happened in the comic? 9 out of 10 times? She’s asked two questions.
2) Different people are different, and will react differently to different conversations
3) Asking questions can improve knowledge.
“Tom may not know anything more about Sydney’s social context than she knows of his.”
She literally apologized for the rudeness of her first question, and prefaced her second question with ‘it might be motivated by pop-cultural biases, but I thought.’ So she was explaining ALREADY why she had that opinion going into the question she was asking him. Mind-reading is not one of Sydney’s powers yet, and she uses her pop-cultural knowledge for a LOT of things, including her strategies and conversational skill.
Also you don’t have a presentation set and ready to go about the benefits of taking over a planet without at least a cursory understanding of that planet’s culture, which apparently is on the Galactic News even.
“From Tom’s perspective, this may be something “everyone” knows.”
Why the heck would Tom think it’s something everyone knows? Sydney LITERALLY said outright that her opinion was based on pop-cultural biases last page, seconds earlier. Heck, the very fact that she’s asking questions about it implies she does NOT know, and therefore it’s NOT common knowledge. Especially since according to Dabbler, demonic ‘bad behavior’ lasted thousands of years and was a large reason for this sort of bias in the first place.
“He probably doesn’t know anything about how long Sydney’s been a superhero,”
Pretty sure that’s irrelevant to being offended over her questions, but she’s already been called a cadet, which implies she’s new-ish to this.
“or what that even means, or how it’s relevant.”
Assuming he has never seen the Galactic News, on which Earth’s defeat of the Fel Supercarrier with only a handful of supers has been top news. Which he obviously DOES know, because he literally said it, again last comic strip.
Because I wasn’t talking about the comic. Neither was the person I was originally responding to. You seem to have a problem with tangents, both recognizing when they have occurred, and attempting to discourage people from engaging in them. Just because you don’t have an interest in a topic doesn’t mean you need to involve yourself in the conversation and disrupt it.
“Because I wasn’t talking about the comic“
But its not only a tangent. Its also a strawman argument since you are adding modifiers that not only did not happen in the comic, but are trying to make a person so egregiously bad so as to make your argument easier. Its as if a person says 2+2=4, and you say so you’re saying 2.4+2.4 does not equal 5 if you round down for 2.4 and up for 2.8? You’re responding to something completely different because your logic would not be accurate based on the actual argument being made.
“You seem to have a problem with tangents, both recognizing when they have occurred, and attempting to discourage people from engaging in them.”
Because it’s sloppy and disorganized thinking, and makes having a clear train of thought more difficult. And heck, I’ve gone off on tangents too, and when I see that I have, I try to bring the thread back to the original argument or find some way that the end result connects to the comic.
“ Just because you don’t have an interest in a topic doesn’t mean you need to involve yourself in the conversation and disrupt it.”
Ummm… most of the time the tangent is by someone responding to one of my own posts, so I sort of have to be involved in the cnversation.
Even your tangent right now was by YOU responding to MY post.
Also, keeping a conversation on point is not ‘disrupting’ it. It’s literally the opposite – the tangent disrupts the argument instead. Think of it like a court case. If you question a winess, then start going off into the weeds on tangents you will get the other side making an objction for irrelevance and the judge admonishing you to keep it on topic or to drop your argument entirely.
And we are on a tangent now about tangents.
And there’s the problem right there. Other than you not actually reading what I’ve written. You’re trying to shoehorn a conversation into a structure familiar to you, disregarding anyone else’s intentions in the matter.
Jurisprudence = “Innocent until proven guilty!!!”
Exactly.
What Torabi is suggesting is you should assume someone is guilty until they prove they are innocent instead, which is antithetical to what I’d consider ‘fair’ as far as intent goes, unless telepathy is a thing.
That is not what I am recommending as a general rule, and you’re only interpreting what I’m saying that way because you don’t understand the topic of conversation, and are attempting to link it directly to events in the comic, which it doesn’t apply to.
Like it or not, what you were describing IS ‘guilt until proven innocent.’ You’re making the assumption about someone’s intent without bothering to get evidence of it. IE, you’re assuming they’re guilty of intending to cause offense, and requiring them to prove they aren’t, instead of the other way around.
If I were to interpret your stated position as uncharitably as you’ve interpreted mine, if would be that people are obligated to trust strangers completely, under any circumstances, with their lives, until such time as that person stabs them in the back, regardless of evidence that they may not be trustworthy.
My position is that people are understandably more cautious than that. Trust is something that must be earned, and you have no obligation to make yourself vulnerable to strangers.
And, of course, you get those who enjoy being offended, and they can’t get offended if people start to learn the differences so they shut down any attempts as soon as someone makes the slightest error
Sure, if they are willing to learn from their error
Which does not include Sydney: not only does she get angry with him for being offended (even if he was teasing), she follows up with another offensive comment!!
Is what she’s saying actually offensive? The word ‘fiend’ does mean ‘a wicked or cruel person’ so it probably could use some better marketing or slipping the Merriam-Webster a few bucks to alter the definition. :) Plus now at least she knows there’s an alternate definition for it in proper demon society.
It’s not so much about being offensive, as it is about making assumptions based on false or misleading media: something that Sydney had literally just admitted to doing on the previous page!
Okay? But I don’t see how she doesnt learn from her questions. She clearly does, even if it’s a little harder for her with her ADHD.
Plus the point of the thread is the argument that he’s being unfairly offended. Or at least that a lack of intent should be taken into consideration when deciding if you should be offended at something someone else says. When there’s intent to be insulting, that’s being mean. When there’s no intent, it’s just a verbal accident, and I’d think it’s less bad when a person isn’t intending to be insulting (and is just being curious because they admittedly don’t know something) than it is when the person is TRYING to be insulting. Her intent was to find out accurate info, since she realized most of what she thinks is probably based on pop culture.
RIP Norm.
And just because something has defined someone for millennia doesn’t mean someone can’t be offended by it and want to change
Just like how succubae have been defined as amoral sluts that will ‘bang’ anything that moves (and a few that don’t)
Of course you will have some who claim that it’s all entirely consensual, but they also tend to use heavy-duty lust aura, so is it really consensual when their will has been compromised before they even knew they needed to make a saving throw?
Monty Python reference with “Peace breaking out” with a reporter nearby?
Possibly a response to the threat of being told the ultimate joke!
Love the panel 5 – doomslayer tribute. “peace accidentally breaks out..”? ofcourse, because those demons are scared shitless about the M*THER FR*CKING DOOMGUY!!! hell yeah!!
Soon they will learn to be scared of a twenty-something roleplayer who enjoys spicy food.
Doomguy is the best video game character ever. Prove me wrong.
For someone who had literally gone through hell & back, he made out pretty well…
B.J. Blazkowicz also exists.
I prefer Flynn McTaggart m’self. the original Doomguy.
Hey, I take offence at the tagline! We prefer “Man’s best friend!”
*wags tail excitedly*
Doggies got mentioned, wheee!
*thinks to self: “Maybe there will be frisbies and walkies too!”*
I think cats must have got better PR somewhere along the line too. Murder-mittened monsters that silently stalk the darkness preying on the defenseless, torture them for hours before killing, and leave their mangled corpses on the doorstep.
They needed better PR, what with being demonized by the Catholic church and being hunted and killed. Of course that led to the bubonic plague, so karma was served
And because humans are some really screwed-up sapients, the plague was then blamed on witches – who were identifiable by being the ones who kept cats … because in an obvious deal with the devil, the witches weren’t getting the plague as much…. Which dialed up the zeal on hunting down witches (and their cats …. ) because they were obviously responsible for the whole plague!
Which goes to show ya something about the kind of thinking that, even today, blames the plagues on the vaccines.
Cripes. We’re such a bunch of murder monkeys, and have been for thousands of years. Think we can ever manage to do any better?
The excuses have gotten better. The way humans justify their abuse and exploitation of each other has gotten more complex, more abstract. But no, nothing has fundamentally changed, and it’s hard to believe that it ever will. Something would have to change pretty drastically for the average human to do more than just mimic truly moral beings.
It’s not enough for them to just behave morally — if they don’t understand the difference between right and wrong, and don’t have the ability to make those determinations under novel circumstances, then they’re no better than automatons. I’m not sure moral reasoning can really be taught, though I’ve entertained the theory that time spent solving problems that will not affect their survival may help develop that capability.
Like all children of evolution, humans become very adept at finding the “right” answer to problems on which their survival depends, but it doesn’t necessarily demonstrate an understanding of the underlying principles. The moment the successful strategy changes, they follow. Contemplating moral problems free from the struggle for survival, however, may encourage the development of a moral mind.
Along those lines, it’s hard for me to support economic pressure as a solution to moral problems. It may induce people to behave better, as long as the fear of future economic pressure remains, but I doubt that it will actually make them better people. I think it more likely that they will resent that pressure, resist examining their beliefs, and dig in their heels, making the problem all the worse in the future once the tension builds to the breaking point. I think the world is currently going through such an upheaval because those problems have remained fundamentally unaddressed — we may have made progress on the surface, but those underlying biases have lingered and propagated, passed down from one generation to another subconsciously, because we as a people didn’t want to grapple with them intellectually.
Demon news reader: “And this confirms my old theory: DEMONS LOVE DAVID HASSELHOFF.”
Darn, I was going to make this joke.
OR SO THE GERMANS WOULD HAVE US BELIEVE.
Do not Hassle the Hoff.
Dabbler is supposed to be sexy (and is) but I just find her adorable most of the time. She’s just cute and I wanna hug her.
Yes.
Hug. Yes, I expect I’d like to “hug” her too. More seriously, Dabbler is a tour de force of what men find appealing. Not all men, obviously, but whether he meant to or not Dave has dropped a lot of hints that would help women understand men if they wanted to. She is smart, stacked, confident, playful, independent, capable and enthusiastically salacious in an athletic way. She will fuck you senseless and then when you’re all sexed out she’ll be your friend. And she makes things. Without glitter. Were Max a little less conventional in outlook she might have tasked Dabbler and Math with … helping one another achieve equilibrium.
I dunno … I don’t think I ever formulated a fantasy partner who had blue fur, horns, and four arms. I mean, none of that’s on the list of things I’d have come up with if people had asked me what’s sexy or appealing.
That said, I don’t have a problem with any of those features. They don’t detract from beauty, any more than skin color or height or whatever. They just add some unknowns and room for discoveries, which is fine if you’re not some stick-in-the-mud who hates surprises. Partners genuinely aren’t all alike, and that’s kind of wonderful.
Another 9 issues to #1000.
I hope that it is something spectacular!
*wags tail in eager anticipation*
This.
Maybe we will see Sydney’s parents.
Or….
We will see her apartment.
90 inch 4k TV or ultra short throw laser projector? (Why not both?)
Street Fighter 2 cabinet or Addams Family pinball???
Why not both?
On her shelf of figurines…
One of herself!
(Also… Foreshadowing… One of Astra.)
As an arcade video gamer of a certain age, the “winners don’t do deals with astral horrors” seal in panel 4 was hilarious! Well played DaveB!
Tsk. Whiteboard list of potential “demon” re-branding names does not include tanar’ri.
I suppose a “fiend” might rebrand to yugoloth, but they aren’t really the same thing. Why not just add an “r” so Tom can be everyone’s friend instead? Much easier to get them to watch your presentations that way.
Well I do view strangers as being friends that I have not met yet.
*tilts head on one side, to contemplate the pros and cons*
*preemptive ear-scritches*
*leans into the scratch, whilst purring*
Hey, if you hung around kitties as much as I do, you’d start purring too!
?t’nod I kniht uoy sekam tahW
What a lovely human!
*pushes a bowl of milk forward, with nose*
Well I am a kitty, big one yes, but still a pussycat! :)
‘Man’s Best Fiend’
Herro, I’m your best fiend.
*gives Yorpie Snax*
Nom nom nom!
> does not include tanar’ri.
So disappointing.
I’m expecting it’s a copyright thing.
Norm McDeamon
“Slobber Sprinkler Shit Factory Face Biters” also rebranded to reduce confusion with the somewhat similar “Piss Sprayer Shit Factory Scream Machines” – now better known as “babies” to most folks. They’re both about equally appealing in my book.
Believe you misspelt ‘appalling’… unless that’s what you meant
Please allow me to give you and eloquent retort.
Such a response has been evolving in our respective species for tens of thousands of years. There is a distinct survival advantage to such.
And I thought certain you were going to reference cats instead of babies.
If the group you’re presumptuously defending is demons/devils/fiends, is it still called White Knighting?
Yes, because “white knighting” as a term doesn’t presume that whatever you are presumptively defending, or attacking on behalf of, is authentically something that both needs and deserves defense.
I mean, yeah, a society of demons barely holding themselves together with a shared culture and ideology does seem pretty white-black-red, so Mardu fits.
This would be a really poor time for an Astartes Librarian to walk out of a Warp Portal.
It is never a good time for anything to walk out of the Warp.
But that’s how I met Cassie! She’s da best! Got some difficult dietary restrictions I guess, but who doesn’t these days?
Wait, this may be a misunderstanding. Which direction are you calling “out”?
*smiles in enigmatic*
https://neverstationary.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/door-3.gif
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for every Elsa going out, there’s a Kuzco coming in. :)
In my country, we exchange a pleasant hello before asking questions. Have you become uncivilized so soon, Zuzu?
I’ve been trying to brand human babies as ‘Screaming Poo Larvae’ for decades. I’m just waiting for the moniker to catch on.
I have a relative that advocates for “Screaming Tubes”, but some people won’t believe the branding no matter how accurate.
Ugh, cannot unsee that.
I vote for “De’mon Smith” and “face juice factories” myself.
I am now curious as to what cats were called before getting better PR.
Allergy mongering desk destroyers?
Okay, so here’s a question: if the demon / devil difference is a thing in the Grrlverse, have we seen any devil characters yet?
Also, how far do the analogies to D&D / Pathfinder go? Does the Grrrlverse also include daemons, divs, demodands, kytons etc.?
Not to mention Tieflings (Human hybrids with either demons or devils)
Well, Dabbler has identified herself as “one-third human.”
Which brings up soooo many questions about the physical processes involved and, in particular, how many participants are required.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b3-KpdPjs0
Dave, you accidentally put four characters in the nude picture? Like you tripped and, oops, suddenly there’s four nudes?
Oops! All Nudes!
you say that like its a bad thing…
“I went to a fight the other night, and a soccer game broke out”
— R. Dangerfield (according to The Web)
RIP Rodney! :(
When Rodney was on his deathbed, Jay Leno went to visit him. His wife was there and said ‘Rodney, Jay’s here. If you can let him know that you know he’s here, squeeze his finger.’ And so Jay put his finger in Rodney’s hand, and he felt a squeeze, then Jay leaned over and said to Rodney ‘Rodney, that’s not my finger.’
So Jay got to repay Rodney Dangerfield for all the laughs he gave others near the end.
I sympathize with the naming issue so much.
One of my oldest, and personal favorite to write about even if I have somewhat ignored it these last few years in favor of horror stories, is a fantasy setting.
Now not sure if it is unwritten rules or just observation, while sci-fi stuff it seems aliens get broken up names or else usually something short or exotic looking, fantasy seems to have a rule that names be a little long *especially place names*, and be both pretty to look at and also a little hard to pronounce.
-so many names when hearing the author same them for the first time its like..oh, so that’s how that is pronounced.
Example,
for instance, the planet Aesperia,
on the continent of Ravashira
in the kingdom of Stratalia
we follow the young sorceress Hollia
who is now grown up and has a daughter, Zelia.
*and those last three the end of those names are pronounced different, Stratalia and Hollia are close but Hollia is softer on the “lee-uh” while Stratalia has more emphasis while Zelia is more a “yuh” sound.
*on this note is when words you thought you made up or based on one word accidentally end up existing in another language, like Ravashira is apparently a soup in India.
and the Amana *which rolled off my tongue playing with the word Mana* is apparently a real world in a few language, and unfortunately there are some culty types using it for heir ascended whatevers in real life…but I choose to ignore that in-universe.
then there is the expectations issue. When using a name or type of something that already exists in fantasy and/or folklore. The urge to over explain it as quickly as possible as well as do you play it like the folklore? like other fantasy series? play by the rules of one popular fantasy or fiction series, subvert expectations?
-basically the “what direction will they play this?” which we see with demons, dragons, vampires, fairies, elves, gods, and oddly even kobolds get this treatment thanks to the name often just meaning *something small, humanoid, but mostly harmless*. Which can work out or it can annoy people *and sometimes that later works out because they aren’t major reoccurring creatures and the series focus is on something else…see the show Supernatural and the series The Witcher as examples of just using names and sometimes a vague similarity but making something so different one can argue they could have or should have made up their own name for it.
and then there are the “variations”, you get stuck on a theme and next thing you know you’ve made up like 20 different kinds of vampires and dozen different types of elves running around your setting.
Is Zuzu a Prince Zuko reference? Because everything changed when the Fire Nation didn’t attack?
Pazuzu
which inspired Zozo the supposed Ouija board demon.
ZO-ZO is onion sideways
so is OZ-OZ !
Maybe it is an It’s a Wonderful Life reference.
They should rename themselves to “Deez” so they can make so many Deez Nuts jokes.
So even in the 9 realms of Hell you cant ecape the “republican vs liberal” arguments apparantly.
That’s only a thing in the US.
It’s “Assholes vs Decent people” everywhere else. Because we haven’t politicized being polite and accepting like US politicians have.
“How can multiple intelligences share the universe without attempting to dominate or eliminate each other?” is the universal question underlying all conflicts.
Reminds me of Jack London’s debate on the value of life from The Sea Wolf:
How about “Dimension Travelers” (Robert Asprin’s definition of “Demon” from his Myth series)
names like that are fine till thirty other species that do the same thing show up.
reminded of the EGS reference when a god of magic called out the “Immortals” for calling themselves that when they aren’t the only immortal beings on Earth.
Its kind like using Ancient Ones, The Inbetweeners, Shadow Worlders, The Inhabitants, and other titles that sound creepy, but if you are a super hero or other group that is likely to visit multiple realms then its like.
we visited the Backrooms and met beings called The Inhabitants,
then we visited the Plane of Desolation and met beings only known as The Inhabitants,
oh and then we went to the Mirror World and…yeah, The Inhabitants,
Shadow Realm..Inhabitants,
Psionic Realm…Inhabitants,
huh…
Eh … it’s not so different from what happened on Earth.
How many ethnic groups have names for themselves that are basically The People?
honestly, that’s because they (used to be) cannibals, and everyone knows you are what you eat.
“Devout Humanitarians?” (Consider how that word might be related to “Vegetarian”)
Now, is the newsreader reporting on the Eighth Circle of Hell (as reported by Dante), or an esoteric computer language?
Maybe Tom should market the invasion as “a fiend of the people”
Do we know the difference between demons and devils? Like, in DnD terms terms one group is the Chaotic Evil Outsiders species, and the other is the Lawful Evil Outsider Species, and both species are Fiends (Evil Outsiders), but I don’t know what meaning is being used here.
Here are some of the basics. Plus succubi are demons. Meaning that Dabbler is about a third demon (the math is rather complicated when succubi reproduction is in the mix).
Doesn’t really tell us much. Dabbler mentions devils in passing to as she goes to talk about demons.
Guess the pro-violence rally got tired or bored of fighting and everyone just sat down and had lunch.
Pro violence rally? More like demon-stration am I right?
I protest at your demon-strably impish behaviour!
I hope we get some actual follow up to the evil org that kidnapped sydney a couple months back.
Doom Marine petting a Pinky demon is the cherry atop the cake of this image.
Sorry, I have a different association with “pinky” monsters, namely a variety of slime that has a lot of knockback when hit. They spawn fairly rarely but drop some lovely gold when defeated, so when I spot one I joyfully call out “PINKY!” and target it instantly, even if in a boss fight!
They might try and take over the world.
I think that Demons are quite enlightened to have a “Department of Sanity”.
Hang on, I think I am discovering a bit too much about how the universe works. I fear that I may need to make a sanity check!
*wearing underpants on head, and having a pencil in each ear*
Wibble!
After having watched Good Omens, I think they should also have a Department of Silly Walks.
“… people are people, no matter how many horns they have.”
True. But some are hornier than others.
I actually really like the ‘Fire Souled’ myself. Descriptive, evocative, while still being neutral enough to work for those who don’t specifically work with/use fire. Could easily be shortened and ‘skewed’ to something like “Firsol” or “Firsd”. Though you’d have to be careful not to have it turn into ‘First’ because that has… other connotations.
Actually translations of it are close enough in a few mideastern languages to cause confusion. The Djinn are said to be beings with souls of fire, whereas humans are beings with souls of earth.
https://youtu.be/8yDmeYxTeC0?t=30