Grrl Power #953 – Saucegate
If she’s not using them, I often forget about Sydney’s orbs until I’m placing them on the page, which I usually do near the end, and sometimes that results in the orbs being shoved off to the side while she eats. They’ll eventually drift back into place if she doesn’t give them a thought now and again.
Everyone at the base thinks Sydney and Frix are a cute couple, even if Fridney isn’t the best couple portmanteau. Some of that is just because of the ridiculous height difference. Cora has a type, and Frix is right at 7′ tall.
If Grrl Power was a different type of comic, I might spend some time on people saying that human/alien relationships are abominations and “against nature” all that jazz, but it’s just so… tired and predictable. I don’t mean predictable as a story trope, but predictable in a “humans suck and have always sucked and will probably continue to suck for the foreseeable future” kind of way.
Claiming things that a person doesn’t like are “against nature” always cracks me up, cause they’re usually doing so online, and we all know how natural computers are. Half of them are wearing eyeglasses, surely freshly picked from the eyeglasses trees. If you’re naked and yelling at a city from a hilltop forest and are riddled with parasites and ringworm and half your teeth are rotted out of your head and you die at 32, then knock your bad self out, otherwise, shut up about shit being natural. Humans are natural, therefore anything we can accomplish is by extension, natural. Unless you’re prepared to make the argument that beehives and beaver dams aren’t natural either.
Which is all my long winded way of saying yeah, there are people in the Grrl-verse that are against supers and humans dating supers and are against aliens and people dating them and allowing them on Earth (even though the only jobs aliens have stolen thus far is “tourist” – not including Dabbler, I suppose), there’s enough of that depressing stuff in the real world and the PR team does a pretty good job of keeping that sort of stuff out of the faces of Archon personnel.
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Um, I’m pretty sure that the sauce is indeed an animal byproduct.
Not according to my 1st google result, which is a vegan website. Although, granted, once it has been cooked on some delicious meaty ribs, then it is probably less vegan friendly.
You’re not talking about the same sauce that I’m talking about…
Now you got me wondering about possible colour differences in the other kind of sauce and what that would mean for its composition, smell and taste.
Most are tomato, sugar, and vinegar (plus spices, other flavours, etc), no animal products in it. Sure there are ones that contain animal products but they’re in the minority.
Also she’s pescatarian not vegan so eggs and fish sauce and such are fine.
The other guy refuses to say it out loud, so here it is: the implied sauce is semen.
But that would count as an animal byproduct.
Indeed it would, that is the point exactly.
Actually human by-products are not considered to be of animal origin when it comes to vegans. Surprised me when I found out, but that is how they defend using breastmilk and so on.
Are… are people using that as an ingredient? Fingers crossed they just mean nursing infants. 0_o
A few years back there was a woman using it to make ice cream.
I’ve heard that there is an active community of women who sell their breast milk for others to drink. And by others I do not mean infants. Seems both disgusting* and an easy vector for the transmission of diseases, poisonings, and also simple fraud.
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* To be clear, I have nothing against breast feeding. I’m not very well versed in the details, but it seems like a good thing for the baby as far as its immune system goes, and also bonding with the mother. A husband or lover who experiments while his/her partner is lactating? Ok, knock yourself out. But some random adult person wanting to drink that same breast milk, well that hits me pretty hard in the skeeve factor.
Yes, I think it is just more the idea of it. I’m sure there are exceptions but humans really don’t produce that much milk at any one time. If you are using it as a food item you would have to treat it as unpasteurized milk.
Huh.
Anyway, Frix here is definitely not human, cough.
Humans, ARE animals!!!
Most humans, anyway. Some of us… stop… somewhere along the way.
Nope, ALL humans are animals, apes in fact!
Primates, not the same thing
Simple rule to remember how to differentiate primates – if it doesn’t have a tail, it’s not a monkey, it’s an ape.
If the issue for vegans is lack of consent to be used for food, then human byproducts given by consent would be o.k.
I don’t know whether all vegans have that as the basis of their POV, but there is a logic to it.
That would make sense – I asked on a vegan forum once, but they just said “humans aren’t animals!” But it could be, that the consent thing is the original idea and those who answered me was just ‘fad vegans’, not caring about the politics apart from ‘saving the earth’ or ‘animals have feelings too’.
“Humans aren’t animals”.
From the same nonsense buzzword dictionary that gave us “biological food”.
Mind, the English language is slightly better off than others, in that the normally invoked adjective is “organic” rather than “biological” (though the latter is still a thing even in English), but it’s a *long* walk before “organic food” becomes semantically meaningful.
Unless by “organic food” you mean “anything other than salt and baking soda”, which are indeed inorganic.
And it’s actually the same underlying issue that causes the labelling of something as “unnatural”. “Natural” sounds “good”, “organic” sounds “good”, thus anything that is not “organic”, or “natural”, sounds “bad”.
Exhibit A: smallpox.
Exhibit B: Polio vaccines.
Here’s my proposal:
You get to pick A or B, and not both. You also don’t get to pick “neither”, except for medically documented special circumstances.
If you pick “B”, you don’t get to blather on about “unnatural” behavior. And “organic” food.
If you pick “A”… Well, if you survive you get to blather about whatever you want, you certainly put your money where your mouth was.
(There are actual issues with “organic” farming, other than the silliness of the name – mostly the fact that it’s not sustainable for a worldwide population in excess of 7 billion humans.)
How is salt ‘inorganic?
“How is salt inorganic?” – Guesticules
Using chemical classifications for compound types. Chemically speaking, organic refers to compounds that are made up of discrete molecules with well-defined bonds, primarily if not entirely composed of small atoms (carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, phosphorus). Inorganic refers to just about everything else, including salts (which form a regular lattice of positively and negatively charged ions) as a subset. There are also a few special cases, such as organometallic compounds which incorporate metal ions into a mostly organic structure. Organometallics includes a lot of pigments and proteins including haemoglobin (iron) and chlorophyll (magnesium) – so if anyone tells you that their food is 100% organic, you can tell they dropped chemistry at high school. And if they start going on about it not containing ‘chemicals’…
Well we have “Vegitarian” (Eats Vegitables), so someone who eats Humans would be a “Humanitarian”, right?
Paging Doctor Lecter!
so it’s okay to eat vegans?
If you have their clear consent beforehand, then you could argue you’re morally (if not legally) in the clear…
it doesn’t matter what was in the sauce when it was applied to the meat; it it was smoked or grilled properly there’s going to be animal fat in the sauce drippings
As a person who wears glasses… the sauce from BBQ ribs doing this to my glasses is now in my nightmares, you monster….
Please be sure to insert me in there, licking the sauce off.
Mmmmm.
*licks lips*
Remind me to take you to Dr. Hoggly Wiggly’s Tyler Texas BBQ if you ever visit Van Nuys, California.
I’ve never expressed it quite the way you did, but I absolutely agree with your analysis of “unnatural”. I usually point to the fact that human beings in particular evolved to the point where they stopped evolving to adapt to the environment and started modifying their environment to suit them. We make clothes rather than growing fur. We keep things cool longer than “natural” and then cook some of them to defeat their natural tendencies to harbor biologicals we don’t deal with well. Instead of moving “naturally”, we use cars, trains, automobiles, etc.
“Unnatural” usually isn’t a logical assessment either. A specific person has a negative reaction to a specific thing and rationalizes the reaction by saying “it’s against nature” when there are hundreds of other things, which don’t specifically bother them that would fit into the same discrimination.
People, especially people who don’t do a lot of thinking (People of the land. The common clay.) often get themselves all worked up over a word they are misusing. Such as “natural.”
I’m a home brewer, wine maker, and mead maker. I participate in a few user groups for people who participate in these hobbies. The word “chemicals” is used as a pejorative by some members of these groups, especially when applied to the application of common sense steps such as sulfiting your wine or mead to help slow yeast activity, protect against bacterial growth, and extend the shelf life of your product. I will often point out to these people that the water they use in their brewing is a chemical, and that if they want to rant against the use of sulfites they ought to bring facts and not hysteria to the table. But that never seems to eliminate the morons.
There are some images on internet listing ingredients of natural stuff like egg or berries in same way ingredients on food are listed. Or banana, which by the way is so distant from the original plant all GMO should be green with envy. Funny stuff. What chemicals should be considered unnatural? Transuranic? Nah, plenty of them around supernovas, they just don’t stick around. Maybe something with negative mass? Tukerium, Dangor, Kartex, Muilamium?
You know man, I’m gonna step up and be that one contrarian who calls you out for being a bit of an a-hole for doing that. You know that they mean synthetic and/or highly processed materials as opposed to natural or barely processed materials. Why quibble with them over it, or post about it online for any reason other than to feel intellectually or morally superior? You’re not going to convince them that your process is safer or better by lording over them with your ‘superior grasp of vocabulary or science’. “Ugh, everything is chemicals, you plebe, do you understand how stuuuuupid you sound?” That’s not good conversation or education, it’s just being insufferably pedantic and it will never change anyone’s mind.
No, I absolutely do not know that. I know what they said, and I’m not going to pretend to be a mind reader and magically divine their intent.
Ignorance needs to be called out and mocked so that it can be pointed out to be just as ridiculous and wrong as it is. To do otherwise leads to the spread and acceptance of dangerous beliefs such as anti-vaccination, flat Earth, religion, and conspiracy theories of all kinds. The January 6th insurrection in the United States is just one example of how ignorance can and does cause death and dismemberment.
You claim that I’ll never change anyone’s mind, but even if I don’t change the mind of the person who rants about “chemicals” while not even understanding the meaning of that word, loudly pointing out their idiocy may well change the minds of others who are not fully entrenched in that belief. And if I reach even one person then my efforts are both worthwhile and necessary, no matter how much you’d prefer to coddle or ignore morons. Allowing them to spread their disinformation unchallenged is the far worse option, as then they may well indoctrinate others into their idiocy.
Hey now, religion isn’t any more inherently stupid and dangerous than fandom communities are. People deciding to start fights over interpretation of their favorite book are stupid and dangerous.
Your main point is solid though; ignorance needs to be addressed or it only festers. People don’t learn if they’re never confronted with new information. And unfortunately, openly mocking them for it is the only way to get a lot of them to notice it at all, trying to actually teach them the things they’re going off half-cocked without tends to just result in these sort just “politely disagreeing” with the self-evident facts of a case. You could tell some folks the sky is blue, and they’ll tell you their parents or their god told them otherwise.
Trekkies never have crusades in which they murder every Warsian they can find. Andromeda fans never strap bombs to their chests and blow up kids. Potterites never talk their followers into drinking poison so that they can go ride on a comet. Bronies never torture and murder other bronies in order to make sure they are ideologically pure. No SF fan has ever made a career out of coming up with reasons why Princess Celestia is a wonderful person who loves you despite frequently committing genocide and torturing you for eternity if you don’t worship her in exactly the right way.
Yes, religion is a lot stupider and more dangerous than fandom communities.
Yeah, I wouldn’t assume any of those “nevers” is strictly 100% true: There are some really weird people out there, and no belief system is free of nasty people.
> Yeah, I wouldn’t assume any of those “nevers” is strictly 100% true: There are some really weird people out there, and no belief system is free of nasty people.
That’s the part you’re reacting to?
Regardless. If you have an example of a group of Trekkians starting a crusade to another continent in order to kill all the Warsians, please share it. And sure, there probably has been someone from a fandom who has also been a suicide bomber, but it wasn’t *because* they were from that fandom. Most likely it was because they were religious in addition to being a fan.
not necesarily trekkies but some steven universe fans cyberbullied and harased a girl into near suicide (thankfully she failed and recovered) because she draw one of the characters of the show in a slightly clearer skin color than usual on her deviantart page, this is the show that teaches about compasion and friendship and about the value of forgiving others and despite that they harased her throwing hate mesages and doing a “crusade” (a cyber crusade but a crusade non the less) against her and nearly made her end her own life
and even the creators of the show stepped in to try to stop them btw calling in on their behaviour and how stupid they were being but that didnt worked out, some of them even celebrated her suicide attempt until the police actually intervened and got them to court at which point they actually stopped because obviously at that point there actually started to be consequences to their actions
ANY group of people can have a bunch of idiots that take things too far because they are fanatics, it doesnt even need to be a religion anything can awaken this responce or do you want me to point out all the fights with actual deaths that have happened because of sports?
Context matters, Obby.
Stop being such a Jerry.
+1 for the rick and morty reference
Oh, the irony is rich with this one: doesn’t understand what someone says (when do they ever?), instead of asking for an explanation, goes into a rant about ignorance
AAH!, so these are the same people who tried to get DHMO banned, Right?
Hey, Oberon! don’t you love it when people get all worked up over something like this.. your “chemicals” and my “DHMO”… basically the same hysteria just a different focal point :D
hmmm… i guess i messed up the link somehow… here it is again:
https://www.dhmo.org/facts.html
Water. People are idiots. Both the people who took the original gag seriously and the ones who published it.
There are three fundamental motivations for “natural” or “organic” ingredients: ignorance, snobbery and tradition. People who carry on about natural ingredients are usually engaging in elitism. A few are sincere but haven’t bothered (or lack the education required) to think it through. Some brewers understand all this and merely choose to engage in what is essentially a kind of historical re-enactment. Sadly the first two categories (wankers and fools) are as keen to tell you about it as supers and vegans.
its still stupid because plenty of chemicals are extracted from nature and you are more likely to die from eating peanuts than from idk drinking a gatorade or what not because a chemical that the peanuts “naturaly” produce usualy creates an extreme alergic reaction that many people has actualy die from
you know what other “chemical” is extremly dangerous if you consume it in slightly high quantities, nutmeg spice
““anything other than salt” Without salt, we would not exist!
Natural, is a relative term! As are animals! Would ET’s recognize us as As sentiet beings?
that I tend to think is a relative scale, based on one or more criteria, aesthetics, ideology, similarity in thought process, and complexity.
something closer to a human in one or more may regard humans as enough like them to (earn) that status, while others regard humans no differently than humans regard crows, pigs, dolphins, cockatoos, African Grey Parrots, chimps, bonobo, orangutan, and the other tactically thinking, dream capable, self identifying, social minded, tool using, and even TOOL MODIFYING species that humans tend to disregard for one or more of those reasons not making them close enough or the facts offending their ideological/personal bias views.
30 years ago I had a lot of thoughts about how one might construct an AI and when a very large and nearly blank neural net (a puppy) came into my orbit I tested those ideas using what they implied about the teaching of concepts. I can confirm that if you deliberately teach a puppy things the way you would a toddler, you can produce a dog with abstract reasoning and problem solving skills comparable to a 5yo human. For example he understood screw threads on bottles and was aware of chirality (where did I get a bottle with a left hand thread? Made up cap and neck from nylon stock on dad’s lathe and glued them to bottles). Something else he figured out fast was that the modified bottles were always LH. So, are dogs sophonts? Limited, and like humans heavily affected by rearing.
Sydney is soooo SMOL.
And Frix is soooo BIG.
no no BEEG ya gotta keep the intentional misspelling going
I believe Frix, by modern Internet mispelings, would be considered ‘a Tol’, preferred because it ‘rhymes’ with ‘Smol’.
I can almost hear the top hat and monocle being worn to deliver this statement. Well said, sir or madam.
I prefer this to the puns from the previous page.
Ahhhh. :)
Perhaps it is preferable to the perfidious punning of the previous page, eh Pander?
Pander punished pesky punsters penning persons on paper.
Pointedly, precisely, and in perpetuity!
You alliterative madmen!
Argh! Arrest all arrant alliterative assininity, or our only option’s odious ordure.
Agreed, always avoid absolutely awfull alliterations.
I’m shorter, I’m 5 foot 2 inches!
Sydney is now having a flashback to the body parts that got splattered on her. Those were red, too.
I put forth the notuin that Sydney is already unnatural. nothing she can do with another person compares to her inhuman tolerance for Capscium!
considering her last name, it’s possible it runs in her family
It’s her superpower, just that no one noticed.
Like, I’m not disagreeing with the overall standpoint of – “no that’s stupid”, but you’ve completely missed the ball on your part there. You’ve unintentionally set-up a strawman by misrepresenting the argument you’re trying to refute.
It’s not “against nature” with nature being like, animals and plants and rocks doing things without technology. The argument that their making (which again I still disagree with) is that x act is against “human nature”, which is a much more nuanced topic
Define this term, in detail. ““human nature””
I feel like “a much more nuanced topic” sums it up pretty adequately
Not really. It’s weasel words that allow the speaker to apply their own meaning and expect that others will agree based upon their own assumptions and without knowing the full extent of the definition. It doesn’t actually sum anything up, it leaves vast room for meanings to change, goalposts to be moved, and the like.
I’ll second this — with the caveat that this is describing a broad umbrella of views about what is or isn’t unnatural based on what is or isn’t human nature, with what does or doesn’t count as human nature (and how to determine what is or isn’t human nature) varying with the people holding those views.
You all know the right definition, Human Nature, is a relative term!!! I have been trying to fathom that, in over 60 Years!
The real question is whether this is the first time Frix “sauced” Sydney in the face
That was answered in the panel one insert
pics or didn’t happen
Sydney The Saucy Lass
Well, I’d say she’s being nice when she says they make a cute couple :p
Not trying to push a storyline or anything, but I’d luuuurve to see Cora dealing with ATC and dodging through clouds of Boeings and Airbusses milling around in holding patterns over airports.
https://www.flightradar24.com will show the complete disaster… :)
I’m sure her ship can maneuver around them so easily it’s not even challenge. However, she would scare all those pilots, so she probably shouldn’t.
Da. Check Siddles’ disaster zone at Fracture Station when she decided to fly around “outside”!
Recent news shows that reports of UFOs are far more prevalent than might be expected. By UFO I do mean ‘unidentified’ and not ‘since I don’t know it must be a fucking alien from another planet,’ of course. The ‘aliens of the gaps’ need not apply.
Why would she have to dodge? Her ship is several times larger than the biggest airliner.. She has right of way…. :P
It… doesn’t work that way…
Technically, a battleship WOULD have to make way for a rowboat according to basic rules of right of way. The vehicle with the lesser power has priority. (Except on American roads anyway) Yes, many people think that the faster they go, the more right of way they have, but the law says otherwise. Air traffic control is just a nightmare much of the time and then you start thinking about fuel levels and pilot fatigue.
*facepalm*
On a side note- While pedestrians DO have the right of way in many circumstances, jaywalking (crossing roads away form corners/lights) does NOT give them the right of way. Also, if you walk out in front of a moving vehicle away from such marked crossings, it is usually on YOU, not the driver if you get hit. Not that anyone cares these days. They are far too busy being special or texting on their phones to watch where they are walking after all.
Oregon has it so people have the right of way regardless of proper crosswalk. Though, I honestly don’t know what happens if someone is hit when crossing the road like you mentioned.
There is a difference between being right and being dead right.
Unless you can perfectly define what “human nature” is as an umbrella term, your own rebuttal is severely flawed. Much like “honor” in the Klingon Empire, it’s a perspective game. There is no umbrella that defines human nature. Many, many philosophers have made fools of themselves trying to find the umbrella.
“human nature” While I can’t define it, I can demonstrate it…”That is sooo cool… Poke it with a stick, see what it does”. (or was that from last lines heard?)
Yikes. I know Marble Maiden is supposed to have an inveterate selfieing problem, but Harem must be in the running for having it the worst. I mean, EVERY time we see her, she’s got a camera pointed at herself. Herselves?
Has someone already suggested Frixney? Or Sydnix? (I think I prefer the second one.)
Geez, if you’re gonna say stuff like that, not depicting nudity seems like an odd choice.
DaveB, since you wanna rant rather than just leave the topic in the aether,.. can frix and sydney have children without a science lab being involved. That’s pretty much the standard for “natural vs unnatural” relationships.
No, that is not the standard for natural or unnatural relationship seeing as how many animals have healthy homosexual relationships, and let’s include individuals who are sterile who may want to children to see just how far down the rabbit hole you were implying.
As Pride regularly seeks to prove, there’s little healthy about homosexual relationships.
and you assume straight relationships have anything remotely resembling a history of being healthy relationships?
Humans making a dramatic show of their failings does not account for a general whole, nor does one failed case indicate something is as was the target here denote it as “unnatural”.
a man with a bias will latch onto anything to enforce that bias while ignoring all contrary evidence especially when it out weighs that which enforces his preconceptions.
In addition to Rhuen’s comments: There are cat-hybrids (liger, tigon, …) that do not occur in natural environments (as tigers and lions have non-overlapping territories) but only in captivity, but are the result of non-lab insemination.
Seeing Anvil’s dress fly up would be similar to that infamous scene from The Seven Year Itch with Marilyn Monroe…!?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Seven_Year_Itch
I saw that movie, I was a young adult, then!
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I’m a vegetarian myself. I can relate.
Good thing Frix is very self confident and laid back. Sydney would not do well with any guy that insisted on having more balls than their girlfriend.
Good thing Sydney wears glasses.
They did not help the last time either – stuff still ended up in her mouth. Or her clothing.
Fridney is a perfectly cromulent couple portmanteau, and I shot mountain dew out of my nose on the last frame, so thanks.
You know out of all the wierd ships I’ve seen over the years those two are just cute.
Better portmanteaus:
Six
Snix
Sydnix
That is the 2nd time Cora appeared and Sydney ended up being covered in meat soup!
Is that a “Cora on earth” thing?
after 2 times its suspicious, 3d time it becomes a running gag.
Still amazed that Sydney is able to walk.
l
The sauce on her makes it look like the… cough… “violently distributed lasagna” scene.
Sydney’s sauced face looks like Undead Sydney.
She seriously looks like a dried out zombie husk with the BBQ sauce splattered on her face. :-P
I wonder if her hair escaped so well because of the magic headband.