Grrl Power #937 – Buddy booty duty
Flotsam: debris in the water that was not deliberately thrown overboard, often due to shipwreck or accident.
Jetsam: debris deliberately thrown overboard by a ship’s crew, most often to lighten the load.
Lagan: goods that are cast overboard and are heavy enough to sink, but are tied to a floating marker such as a buoy.
Derelict: abandoned goods that have sunk to the ocean floor, which no one has any hope of reclaiming.
Derelicte:
I guess Ray could technically be called a sexual derelict, but unfortunately, he’ll likely be reclaimed. By which I mean, he’ll stand up, scratch his bare ass, and wander into the breakroom to raid the fridge.
I don’t know where Dabbler found “The Pornews Journal” but I have a tough time resisting a dumb portmanteau. The articles on the front page look more like stuff you’d find in a magazine, though. I guess it’s part Journal, for keeping up on… sex? Also part opinion pieces and entertainment. I’m sure there’s a business section which includes a “Going Down on Jones’s Industrial Much More than Average.” A personals section, naturally. The comic section is just the latest Hentai – like a Shonen Jump, but all tentacles. Probably a Sports section, for some sort of… competitive sex stuff. Distance? Volume? I don’t know. Maybe tag-team events.
The new vote incentive is up! I tried something different this month – instead of doing one well painted picture with a bunch of dress variants, I wanted to tell a bit of a story. Hopefully it makes sense without any dialog or sound effects. So, instead of one picture, you guys are getting nine. Well, you are over at Patreon. The vote incentive is just the first one. And yes, Pixel is bendy enough to do a full on T&A pose.
Double res version will be posted over at Patreon. Feel free to contribute as much as you like!
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Ahago face looks so much worse on men, wouldn’t you agree?
I don’t particularly like it on women either… but it is definitely worse on men, yes.
To be fair, most things look worse on men because guy culture downplays having good looks compared to girl culture, and the quality of look is affected heavily by quality of appearance.
[PSA to all the single straight/bi guys out there: If you want to impress us, don’t work on your looks to be what guys think girls find hot, just work on them to be what girls find hot. All your guy-friends probably have zero clue what girls like, so their advice is worthless. As a hint, the reason so many of us like boy bands isn’t for the music. It’s because they’re one of the few sources of eye-candy. Granted, there are exceptions, but in general… We aren’t watching ‘Rambo’, we’re watching David Bowie (very closely) in Labyrinth. We aren’t drooling over Kratos, we’re *still* drooling over Cloud. We aren’t going gaga over pro-wrestlers, we’re going gaga over David Tenet. Style > Muscle; Neat > Brash; Cleverness > Rudeness; best self > badass self. Note, this isn’t a “you all are horrible and not good enough for me” post. I’m happily married, and am off the table anyway. It’s just I see so many boys trying to bend over backwards to hulk out to impress girls when that’s just not what impresses us. Trying to save you some self-destruction.]
Far from most women like or think the same. Same as guys. That’s something some women like, but some of us would drool over Kratos and not spare Cloud a glance.
You’re coming across as broadly and badly generising men and women.
You’ll notice I said boy and girl *culture*, not boys and girls. Broad generalizations was kind of my focus. Obviously we’re not all the same. But the point where *most* guys *start* to try to understand us is completely off base. I’m not saying all of us are this way (heck knows I don’t like boy bands… although David Tennet is still hot). What I’m doing is addressing the starting point at which they build from. What girls think is hot is what girls say is hot, not what their bros say girls think is hot. Which although is not a lesson *all* of them need, *is* a lesson *a lot* of them need.
Note to all humans. Working on what any particular human tells you is “hot” is a sucker’s game.
Be healthy and have a good time doing whatever makes you feel confident.
Exactly. And if you’re wanting to find out what someone else finds hot, *listen to those other people* instead of someone else trying to guess.
David Tennant is hot.
This from a straight guy.
+1
No ne ever considers the benefits of living like a slob and dying alone.
No. I find it kind of adorable, actually.
After squinting a little, PorNews Journals Sex Quiz is “How your selection of waifu pillows reveals what kind of loser you are”
lol
Glad you spotted that. I’m reading this on my phone in tbe break room, so I have to scroll fast.
The “enhance” function of your brain is way better then mine. I can barely confirm it even knowing what it should say. :)
Far from most women like or think the same. Same as guys. That’s something some girls like, but some of us would drool over Kratos and not spare Cloud a glance.
You’re coming across as broadly and badly generising men and women.
What the heck, why did this reply end up here. Wrong place.
Yeah this forum can be a bit odd sometimes. Part of it’s charm really.
Re: the PorNews Journal; they have a great subscription service, each issue delivered in a nondescript, plain brown wrapper.
I’ve heard…..
what level of patron do you have to be to find this out?
Sub-surface?
“Person Who Dabbles”
Dave, I love your work, I really do. However, you could try and cut down on these pages that only have one joke that does not tie in to the main story.
Do not misunderstand, they are funny. However, they also greatly slow down the pace of the story to the point where we have been reading about Sydney’s first couple of weeks for several years now. I feels like we get 2 comics that are off-topic for every 1 that is on Story.
I mean, canonically, she saw President Obama only a couple of months ago.
Sometimes the story the reader wants to read
Is not the story that the writer wants to write.
There’s nothing really wrong with this.
There is if you want patronage. Hookers don’t get to say “ewww”.
Yes, they do!
And depending on the “services” already rendered, you do not even get your money back.
People are free to reject contracts on grounds other then prejudice.
Also you are a Patreon supporter, not a Pimp. So get the idea you have some inherent “right” on what is written out of your head.
You can cancel your payments, but do not think for 1 second you get to dictate what the artist does.
He is right though. Timetable wise I think we should have or at least we are close to the beginning of the comic. Maybe not hurry up but a this is where we are would be nice. I mean unless he references the start we are still in the flashback. I mean b it be one thing if the comic lead up to this is how I became the greatest something or other then the whole story can be about flashback but it wasn’t framed like that.
there is an entire argument over this in the Alari ark. we are past the starting of the comic by half a year or so if I remember right… flip back to when Alari used blood magic to blow up the mountain. the argument is within 2 pages of that. I’m currently not able to look up the exact page sorry.
Given the fact that Grrl Power is consistently in the #1 position on Top Web Comics I’d say DaveB knows what he’s doing. This is his labor of love, and I’m just glad he decided to share it with the world.
And I really do love him, however, I look at Girl Genius that has ran for almost 20 years and they get many more story arcs done each year while maintaining an extremely high quality…….. Even if I cut the number down to “number of story arcs in the last 8 months” just to keep it fair, they still get more story arcs in. (because they hire an artist and it is written by a husband/wife team they put out 3 comics a week. So that would be like a year if they did 2 a week)
I love GrrlPower and Dave. It’s just frustrating that we keep getting “blue balled” on the story, for a page that could have been 3-4 panels long. He could fit in extra jokes in that space or get closer to the story.
I could even see how to edit the page. Cut panel 1, speech bubble moved to 2. Merge 3, 4, and 5. Cut 7 move dialogue to 6. Cut panel 8, move reaction to 1 (replacing original reaction). Panel 9 is good. I would have to draw details for exact panel configuration, but it would be the same joke in half the space and half the time to draw.
With great respect … GG is every bit as awesome as you say, but it is a three-person staff producing 5 pages a week, vs a 1-person staff producing 2 pages a week. Maybe DaveB is happy working on his lonesome; no sense making yourself unhappy just to produce more webcomics! GG produces 250% more content so we’d expect roughly 2.5 times as many story arcs, all other things being equal – which they never are.
Why cut panel 1? It establishes on the page that Sydney is rolling along happy and innocent, so the swerve in panel 2 is much more swervey. Yes, the page could be cut down to 3 panels for people in a hurry, by why not just wait for Reader’s Digest to license the property?
The question is, “What should readers do when DaveB doesn’t write to his/her/ter/its specifications?”
100 readers swerveyed, top 5 answers on the board. You said, “Yes, the page could be cut down to 3 panels for people in a hurry, by why not just wait for Reader’s Digest to license the property?”
Swervey said? [X]
The question is, “What should readers do when DaveB doesn’t write to his/her/ter/its specifications?”
100 readers swerveyed, top 5 answers on the board. You said, “Dave, I love your work, I really do. However, you could try and cut down on these pages that only have one joke that does not tie in to the main story.”
Swervey said? [X]
The question is, “What should readers do when DaveB doesn’t write to his/her/ter/its specifications?”
100 readers swerveyed, top 5 answers on the board. You said, “You can cancel your payments, but do not think for 1 second you get to dictate what the artist does.”
Swervey said? [5] Stop supporting the comic.
The question is, “What should readers do when DaveB doesn’t write to his/her/ter/its specifications?”
100 readers swerveyed, top 5 answers on the board. You said, “Given the fact that Grrl Power is consistently in the #1 position on Top Web Comics I’d say DaveB knows what he’s doing. This is his labor of love, and I’m just glad he decided to share it with the world.”
Swervey said? [4] DaveB’s popularity means he can do it the way he has been.
The question is, “What should readers do when DaveB doesn’t write to his/her/ter/its specifications?”
100 readers swerveyed, top 5 answers on the board. You said, “Sometimes the story the reader wants to read is not the story that the writer wants to write. There’s nothing really wrong with this.”
Swervey said? [2] DaveB is telling the story his way.
And even so, GG does side stories, silly filler or just splash pages a few times per year… paper dolls, folding blocks, ads for Mechaniksburg brands of coffee, etc.
More plot arcs doesn’t necessarily mean a better narrative. David Morell, author of First Blood (the book that introduced Rambo) had a good definition of the difference between a story and a plot: a story leaves you asking “And then?” while a plot leaves you asking “Why?”
Getting caught up in an obligatory number of story arcs runs the risk of railroading the reader’s space to explore the character interactions Dave said he wants to focus on. That’s how I feel about GG recently—I’ve lost the thread of the storyline and forgotten much of the lore, and the interactions between the characters are mostly about plot points and less about their personal growth when the early stages of the comic had so much more development. But give me enough time, and I’ll binge read all of Grrl Power just for the reliability and humor of the characters, even if Dave explores the “Why?” of space mercenary interspecies trysts over the “And then?” of the next supervillain in the rogues gallery.
Why is it important that a webcomic try to keep up with the passage of IRL time?
* Novels set in the past can still be fun.
* Any accidental references to current technology can be explained by ArcTech being ahead of its time, or alien tech.
* Sydney’s first year as a superhero has a lot going on which is quite natural considering that she is entering a whole new world of awesomeness. It’s a special sort of coming-of-age story which happens to have aliens and explosions. Why skip any of it? The writer’s doing a good job churning out 2 pages a week. To stay up with IRL, the writer has to either skip over story bits which would be awful, or inflate output unreasonably.
Seriously, if you want a comic that keeps up with the IRL timeline, just buy a newspaper – the headlines this whole century have been nothing but improbably and absurd ;-)
Personaly I think Dave should just use standard superhero time: It doesn’t have to make much sense as long as it’s entertaining.
haha Yes. It’s a Superhero Comic, not an historical timeline. The Rule Of Funny Rules!
That was beautiful. I didn’t know you wrote poetry.
Aw thank you! I am blushing.
Now I am motivated to try to boil it down to a haiku. Wouldn’t that be awesome!
If it’s all serious, direct to the point comics, you miss out on a lot of character interaction and development. Individual pages like this could be taken out without a huge impact, but if you take them all out, you get a far inferior comic as a result; as they contribute subtly to the relationships and personalities of the characters involved.
Not to mention all the ‘in’ jokes you miss. Hm … all the ‘out’ ones ya miss too.
And now for the st9ck karket? Wang computers are up. While Health lubes ar going down
The Kardashians are hav8ng a margin called….
Meanwhile; robo toys is making a giant… comeback
Over to sports and it sees bareback riding is becoming very popular.
The filler is the point of the comic. The main plot is only there to tie the other scenes together. From the “about” page:
This is five different jokes, each character-related, paying off subjects that have previously been introduced and set up. If it’s not your cup of tea, then there will be another page on in a half a week.
@DaveB ,looking at Xuriel’s shirt, I think you should get a contract with the guys at MousepadMoe (http://mousepad.moe/) and do a limited run of Xuriel front with custom shirt (they add “fabric” for “clothes”) . You could be swimming in dollars man…
(If you proceed with the idea, just send me one)
PorNews Sports Page:
* Wrestling
* Fencing Without Swords
* Lots Of Ball Sports
….
Something occurs to me that should have occurred a few weeks ago, but was distracted by other discussions.
Is Lapha’s species a tier 2 civilization?
I ranted about the stasis gun feeling out of place for some mercenaries to have as a time dilation device felt more advanced than what we’d seen so far and time dilation is generally more a tier 2 civilization technology.
but then Lapha is revealed to actually be some little energy matrix wisp thing whose people can make custom bio-frame meat blanks on demand. A situation like this does occur in tier 2 civilizations not too uncommonly due to a quasi or failed attempt at ascension (a tier 2 trying to leap to a tier 3 civilization), but instead ending up as some immortal core energy, spark, or brain in a jar, that still needs a body to move around it.
another common trait is regarding most other life forms, especially pre FTL ones as no different than animals, no regard for capturing them for a space zoo, pet shop, or to study ect…
so yeah, Lapha was getting that vibe she could be from one of the tier 2 civilizations in the Xevoarchy.
The meat blank bit isn’t very remarkable, *we* can do that now. Just not quickly.
not at all, they are still working on perfecting replacement organs.
not even close to transferring a brain let alone consciousness to another body,
that said an android body with life support system or neural map copy and so forth aren’t exclusive to a tier 2 civilization, and could be done in a few decades *brain in a prosthetic body* if we put real focus into it, go total Ghost in the Shell.
the focus there was more on it being standard practice because their core being is no longer a biologically limited being. Like if your civilization was aiming for energy beings with god like power, but the ascension instead resulted in small glow balls with a mind, semi-ethereal mists, floating flame like wisps, and other more ghost like forms that can possess and require physical bodies to still move around. Its more often a hubris thing having some group claiming to be all powerful gods but you see a bunch of giant robots and mechs every where or them controlling people’s minds from a distance, and you find out they are just thought wave patterns trapped in a computer, or are these electric spheres that can’t stay outside of a body for too long or they’ll fade away. or the darker version where they’ve become semi-eldritch horrors through forced genetic evolution so instead of ascending to any kind of energy being they’ve become cancers with a consciousness. The “we are the great hive mind of el’garatch, we are beyond you by tens of millions of years” sort of gibbering mass of tumors, tentacles, and teeth.
still have crazy advanced galactic empire technology like planet destroying plasma lasers or giant spaceship mechs, or grow new bodies in vats, but in the end they turn out to be that *you are like insects to us* mindset because they really want in that ascension club but can’t get past that last hurdle somehow to become the glowing squids who leave cryptic messages behind type.
oh dear, another late night conquest in the couch.
another one bites the couch, another bites the couch.
Wonder what happened to Trent
Yeah I liked Trent. I hope we will see him again.
Imagine Sydney hauling the couch outside and using her fire orb to torch it…!
Well as long as Ray Cosmos is still on it…
based on The Word Of God below. Cora would probably object. not much. but some.
correction- above, the daveb post is above this one.
On some things, Above and Below are agreed – even if not on whether they can both claim the label of ‘gods’.
Is that skill point menu just going to follow Sydney around until she grabs one of the orbs? What happens if Varia grabs an orb and Sydney at the same time while the skill tree is up?
That’s a great question. We do not know how the UI would handle this but it’s Nth level tech so it “should” have sophisticated exception handling. When Varia touched Sydney it looks Varia’s power correctly identified the balls – or the link to them – as being the closest to a super thing about her, and generated a response that seems possibly capable of neutralizing Sydney’s ability to use them against her. I don’t see why the power-up UI would not accept input from Varia if she’s linked to Sydney – maybe it would just figure that the ballship’s operator is one person with two bodies and two consciousness linked by Varia’s power?
I appreciate that this is a whole lot of “maybe” but that’s what happens when supers go partying!
I think during the Alari prime battle against the kaiju she did manage to close it without spending the point. So she may know how to close it now without spending the point.
Nope, she spent the points.
The first one on going faster in normal-space flying, the second on taking a shortcut through a Causeway, and the third on a speculation into the centre for no (apparent) effect (yet).
I stand corrected, was thinking the situation forced a close, but no she still had to spend them.
although this thing opening and refusing to close in a situation like that is more evidence this is a toy and the original creators wouldn’t be in any serious risk…be funny if they were made for a turn based combat system. the of course I can take the time to choose to allocate skill points during a level up, the enemy can’t move till it is their turn.
Syd just needs a little understanding here. Xuriel’s power-ups are just as important as hers. It’s just that Xuriel’s power-ups don’t disappear when used.
If Syd can run around in public with one, Dabbler leaving a spent one on the couch doesn’t seem to out of line.
Dabbler probably has a subscription and it’s digitally transmitted to her ship/lab, which then prints a physical copy and let’s Dabbler know. She then just teleports it to herself like she does her guns and various other toys.
Honestly, that’s quite some judgement passed by people that would fuck anything that moves. Or wiggles. Or just stands still long enough… In the end, Ray Cosmo’s only fault is being aggravatingly correct; same as Deus.
Well, you’re right of course. The very fact that they are both fucking Ray is a clear statement of their willingness to fuck even people who they find personally reprehensible for their fleeting sexual gratification.
It is even quantified as being all down to his cybernetics: If he can be “bigger” i.e. have a bigger dick, then they think that he is well worth fucking despite his otherwise reprehensible personality. If his “I’ve got a bigger dick” timer is counting down, well then the ladies might need to wander off to satisfy each other amongst themselves. Here, allow me to finger your ass as we wander away.
What an amazing story line! I think I’ve seen it in any number of fan fiction story lines, but please do carry on.
At least in Dabbler’s case, it’s more than fleeting sexual gratification. It’s more like survival.
She’s essentially in the position of eating Junk-ish food because she’s hungry. She’s gotta eat something, as a matter of survival, and if more wholesome fare is unavailable or inconvenient… Well, Ray’s the greasy burger joint whose main virtue is that’s open at 3AM.
But seriously, who else is she supposed to do? Archon has these rules about fraternization within the chain of command, etc, and that basically leaves visitors like Cora and Ray Cosmos.
Man, I WISH this town had a greasy burger joint that was open at 3AM. Even the Waffle House isn’t open past 9 these days.
Dabbler can look like anything she wants to look like, from her actual 4 armed, purple skinned digitigrade legged self, to her standard “This is my human disguise” disguise, to the disguise she used when trying to get information out of Cooter.
This being the case, I find it highly unlikely that Dabbler is now or has ever been hungry for sex while on Earth. Supers or aliens with gadgets like Ray has may provide her with a larger meal, but Cora isn’t a super and presumably none of her crew are either. So clearly Dabbler finds sexual gratification with non-powered people and aliens perfectly fulfilling to her part-succubus tantric food needs. She can drop by any bar in any city in the US and will always find someone willing to fuck her. Tinder or any other dating ap would also serve her up a steady supply of temporary lovers. She could be an incredibly highly paid escort, for that matter. Those people might not be quality people, but that’s an unknown. She knows that Ray is a dirtbag.
Anvil looks… different… today.
Maybe just so use to the more cartoony depiction of her in prior comics…
She does look different from her “Who is who” picture. Her skin seems darker, the lipstick and hair colors seem more muted.
She has a new hairstyle. But yeah, it looks like Dave has been working on making her more expressive.
Unfortunately not in a good way. I’m not sure what Dave is trying to do but I’m pretty sure it’s getting worse. The ick factor is definitely increasing for me. I like the story but I’m gonna have get a prose version if the art carries on its current trend ;__;.
I’m liking the art evolution. The characters are looking less drawn and more painted as time goes on, and I’d consider that generally a good direction.
I don’t think Dave is going to go all the way to gouache illustration, but if he does, I’ll be happy about it. In fact, in a lot of scenes it would be absolutely beautiful in a way that comic-book illustration just won’t ever be in my eyes.
In the sports section… The Hentathalon would have a three-legged race, a hammer toss, a caber toss, a pie eating contest, a relay race, fencing, rhythmic gymnastics(floor, raised platform, beam, and vertical pole), an 805 meter swim to the Isle of Sirens, and tag-team innuendo.
If Pornnews Jornal is a Succubus publication, it may well be magical. In which case there could be a picture (probably animated) of Ray Cosmos in it, perhaps live at the very moment of reading. With an accompanying salatious story and speculation about an upcoming ménage à trois.
So… my upgrade recommendation…
She put it on the empty small prong of the shield orb. My *guess* is it will allow her to make her shield skin-tight. Covering her in it’s yellow light… making her skin goldish, if you will…
Twinsies with Maxima? Shared origin of powers confirmed?
that would rather quickly kill Sydney unless she was holding the “air creation? orb”. Don’t forget that the shield is completely air tight. Sydney would then have to use the air orb – which we the reader still don’t know if it converts molecules into air, or just flat out can create them somehow. That means Sydney would be pretty useless, becoming a weaker version of Achilles, since she found out her shield has a force limit to it.
The idea of a shared origin of their powers is kinda neat though… if the museum maxima’s family went to was down in florida, the geode could have been part of however the orbs got here – like a form of ablative coating to protect the orbs in travel. (which would explain how it covers Maxima’s body, and reacts to her mind’s direction to shift the power(s) around for different threats)
Left this out of my side rant, I meant the ablative coating to be why the geode was nearby, but not with the orbs.
what if the geode symbiote and the orbs were made by the same beings, one a soldier or action figure *depending on if we are looking at the orbs as left behind weaponry or a higher dimensional being’s dropped toys*.
if space ship parts, the on-board bio-android bonding with a compatible organic frame to rebuild its self and the controls keys of the ship for the orbs.
even if unrelated, Maxima’s symbiote like origin has that, remnant weapon vibe to it. like something left behind either by a past civilization or from an alien outpost on Earth, and the weapon has been reactivated.
like the Guyver unit, a bunch of different androids and robots across comics, anime, and western animation. heck I suspect Frobo from Amphibia who was just built by an underground factory points to this same ancient weapons trope.
heck there was an episode of Babylon 5 that had this. I think it bonded to a person, but it was a juggernaut weapon on a dead world basically designed by their world’s equivalent of Nazies, however the programming found that no-one fit the “ideal” programmed into it so just massacred the entire planet’s population.
How is she still getting grossed out about the sex things. She has met 3 succubus, a wall of tentacles she personally named trent and she had sex with an alien. You’d think she would get overy it by now.
How would meeting three individuals she knows feed on sex sex, a tentacle monster with whom she did not have sex with no observe having sex, and having sex with one space fuzzy make her any less grossed out by naked (save a cape) creeper on a couch.
Being tolerant of other people’s proclivities doesn’t make you automatically jaded or welcoming of them. She can still have a (please keep it behind closed doors) mindset.
Also, of all the “sexual jetsom” that was found on the couch, Ray Cosmos is the most vile and disgusting, both in character and appearance. Maybe her revulsion is not to the concept of Sexual Jetsom but to who/what the sexual jetsom is this time.
+1.
Ray clearly just has that effect on women.
“Sexual jetsam”, accurate, funny, yet something no one real would possibly say. This dialogue is reaching Joss Whedon levels. Note I’m only referring to the quality of Whedon’s writing, not his character, because I mean it as a compliment.
I have known people who would say things like this, I’ve said things that other people have said sounded like something a cartoon character or movie character would say.
it happens.
Anvil is revealing herself to be a certain kind of nerd. If Dave can consistently write her that way it will be an endearing quirk. Sort of the way Halo caught out Max as being secretly a certain kind of nerd, Leon or Krona (who likely share this quirk) are likely to catch out Anvil.
For a lot of nerds there is a strong urge to use language as a toy – making it do tricks, admiring its weird quirks, constantly using bits of it that they find particularly amusing or fun.
It is most common, but not exclusive, to linguists and people who do software design.
So it’s Fleshbot in printed format, with a dash of those weird sex tips from magazines like Cosmopolitan or Men’s Health.
Fancy porn magazines used to have comic strips, didn’t they?
Am I the only female reader who is uncomfortable with Ray Cosmos? I mean being a jerk and a creep is gross but honestly not that uncommon, it’s just the fact the he actually gets laid that bothers me.
He feels like a very rape-y character but he is rewarded for it. I think that’s what is making me uncomfortable.
Do you think it’s an unrealistic portrayal, or just one that you would prefer not to see in your fiction?
I think he’s intended to make the reader uncomfortable.
That’s an interesting question. After thinking about it, the discomfort may be partly caused by how one dimensional his character is. He is creepy, selfish, and horny, and can get big. So far those are his only qualities.
Math doesn’t creep me out as much as Ray, maybe because he has a bit more of a personality. He’s definitely creepy, but he is a skilled fighter who cares about furthering his skills. His horniness is a trait rather than his whole personality maybe? He also doesn’t get rewarded for being pervy, he actually loses a fight because of it.