Grrl Power #91 – FireCat v. MultiCat
I know everyone was expecting wackiness up in the ballroom, and we’ll get back to that, but I thought it was time to check in with some of the other team members for a bit. I know this page isn’t rip-roaring hilarious and crammed full of jokes, but sometimes you got to do a little setup – besides those pages with 10+ panels are killing me. I like drawing a bit bigger than those tight pages allow for.
The crossed balloon tails is a cardinal no-no for cartooning, but I was sort of writing this page as I drew it. Oh well, no Eisner for me.
So anyone planning on playing any Diablo III this week? I was originally going to take the week off of work when it came out, but I’m not sure this version is going to push all the same buttons that D2 did, seeing as I’m an egregious min/maxer. Still should be awesome, hopefully next week’s comic won’t be all stick figures. Can’t decide what class to play first though. Barb or Wiz. Maybe Demon Hunter. Or Monk. Or Witchdoctor. :P
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The next scene should have Harem’s soda suddenly burst from the top of the cann as if it had been shaken up and then opened just to emphasized Brooke’s current state of mind!
Excellent comic. Definitely one I like to wait for updates on. Which comics of those stature are hard to find. But hey, have ya thought about having heatwave heat the air around a person so as to make them really uncomfortable?
Harem is having a really really really bad day. Must be Monday in comic too.
Tuesday actually.
World’s longest Tuesday. :P
If this is Tuesday, I’d hate to see Thursday!
For you, the day I came to ARCHON and destroyed the tower demonstrating my orbs was the most important day in your life. For me, It was Tuesday.
Troper!
Raul Julia fan, ;)
theres never a like button when you need it.
Not related to this page per se, but checking out Sydney’s bio (which now lists powers), it indicates that one of her powers is “clarisense”. That’s a somewhat odd coinage; the most common RL term would probably be telepresence, and clairsentience is probably the next most common.
That was the hologram double.
Gratuitous Fan Service has a hint of Cameltoe! bad location for a seam.
I was trying to minimize that when I drew it but… That’s how jeans are put together aren’t they?
And I think some women would argue that’s a great place for a seam. Especially those with… you know, added hardware.
Harem’s gonna learn that you don’t, ever screw (with) a superhero’s boyfriend.
Or girlfriend, I’m not picky about that.
What’s up? You’re about to be up, Harem. :P Twenty to thirty feet straight up, and then you’re going to fall down again.
Those pants… Thank you. (￣▽￣)
I’m expecting female retribution in the next page… LOTS of it
Femal retribution: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtJwZjZGABw
followed by: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZcsbffK25k
‘Your comment is awaiting moderation.’
What?
most forums like this that I’m involved in have it set that a new person get moderated to show they aren’t a spambot, then it goes unmod. but it will auto-moderate you if you try to post a post with 2 or more url’s in them, as that is also one o the spambot tactics…
I haven’t had much problem with spam yet, but it’s still set that if you submit a comment with more than one link in it it’ll get flagged for approval. Apparently spammers like filling up comments with links. I usually approve them pretty quickly.
I hope you mean comments with multi-links, rather than spammers.
=OP
Yeah, the legit comments.
I think the crossed balloon tails work very well here, since Achilles is interrupting Mr. Amorphous.
I agree. Might supposedly be a no-no but it seems to work well in this instance.
I had to read panel four like eight times before I understood what she was saying.
Just cause of the way she said it, or am I missing a comma somewhere?
No it was easily understandable to me. Yes that fan service for the boys but for girls? The straight ones I mean. Gotta be fair about this. We need more female geeks and nerds.
Well, I think room-temperature might be hyphenated, but that’s about it. It’s probably just me though, I kinda had a brain fart and read it all kinds of wrong. I thought she said “I’ll make her all” and then I read “(soda room) temperature” instead of “soda (room temperature)” And it got worse each time I read it. So yeah, mostly just my brain deciding to not work I think.
I had a little trouble parsing it too, though it is hard to put my finger on why.
“I don’t care how powerful she is, I’ll make her soda room temperature or something.”
Could maybe be a bit clearer as
“I don’t care how powerful she is: I’ll make her soda room-temperature or something.”
or
“I don’t care how powerful she is… Maybe I’ll just make her soda room-temperature or something.”
Trying to clarify the sentences above led me to a theory as to why I had trouble parsing it.
The “I don’t care how powerful she is” and “I’ll mare her soda room-temperature or something” are separate thoughts, that are conflicting, hence the humor. But the conflict, when just separated by a comma and with no transition derailed my train of thought. This is why in my second attempt at a re-write above, I switched the italics to “don’t,” so it seems like she is trying to convince herself she isn’t afraid… and fails, deciding to go with warm-soda vengeance. (Although, honestly, perpetually warm soda seems like a pretty effecting retaliation to me!)
Anyways, just some thoughts. Not sure the second version would even fit in the word balloon.
Or maybe use lukewarm? Though I’m not actually sure if that word is used in everyday English or not.
it still is. just not in major media. in another 50 years or so it’ll probably fade into real obscurity only to be used by old fogies like me.
I tend to write dialog the way I think it flows when people are speaking it – I mean they are dialog bubbles after all. That does mean I tend to omit punctuation or put it weird places, dashes and commas to emphasize pauses in speech, stuff like that. It’s probably not a best practice, I maybe I ought to write it to MLA standards and let people inflect it how they want when reading.
I learned that when you write dialog speak it so to see how it flows off the tongue. It helps since speech patterns are different from writing. For one thing people normally speak in incomplete sentences. Unlike myself. So I write like I speak when it is in my voice.
It would be helpful if women wore such advertisements. I would ask them if they are fans and of what.
There is a really good podcast for writers called “Writing Excuses” which has 3 publish authors and a highly successful web comic artist (Howard Taylor of Schlock Mercenary) as its hosts. They did an excellent episode on writing dialog, and I would recommend listening to it, but to put it in a nutshell, you need to write dialog that sounds like something someone would say, while not actually being what someone would actually say.
Reasons being that people tend to say things like “umm”, or “like”, or “the fact of the matter is” that just clog up sentences, and that vocal tone is missing from writing, which can make understanding more difficult if you simply write what people would have said verbatim.
Anyways, not trying to have you a hard time on your writing: it’s generally quite good. When the occasional thing strikes me as odd or hard to understand, I’ll mention it though
I will check it out. I’ll take any constructive criticism. Until Marvel, DC, ShonenJump and Image, Antarctic Press and Leonardo DaVinci are all beating each other with bags of money so they can be the one to hire me to draw for them, and Shakespeare, Neil Gaiman, Joss Wedon and Aaron Sorkin are knife fighting each other just to have me glance at their writing, there’s room to improve.
i like room-temp sodas less of why my brain hurts from drinking cold soda to ah that hit the spot.
Harem is going to have to drink all her soda at room temp the rest of her life! or perhaps Heatwave will make her hair all dry and frizzy for the rest of her life..Either way Harem just gonna get it.
If Heatwave can do sold too, Harem is on the verge of a world of thermic uncertainty, from stone cold soup to piping hot salad. Even if Heatwave only does hot, Harem would do well to acquire the old steelmaker’s habit of spitting on everything before touching it!
On the Cast Page, you have Sydney listed as 5′ tall and 135 lbs. That seems a little heavy given the way she is drawn (tiny/skinny) especially when you compare her to the non-super Peggy (5’4″ 105 lbs). Can you explain this discrepancy?
I believe Dave once said he first pictured Syd as being short and overweight but when he got down to drawing her it didn’t fit her personality. Or something along those lines.
bone mass and muscle density could account for the added weight. I am about 25 lbs heavier than I look. My wife agrees that I am quite dense. :-)
For the longest time I was in good shape and weighed 170 lbs at 5′ 7″ for a male. I didn’t look that heavy because the muscles not only lift their own weight unlike fat, but lift more than they are combined.
I look like I’m 250-270, in reality I’m actualy 350 lbs. Been like that all my life. Have a heavier muscle densety than most people. I’m also overweight, but the muscle densety adds like 60-70 lbs. Got it from my mothers side of the family. When she was 12 she could beat up 15-17 year olds. Have a cousin who is just like that.
I know the feeling. I’m about 6 feet tall and 310 pounds, but most people I talk to about it think I am about 50 pounds lighter. I have a lot more muscle mass than many people assume and so they are surprised when I can actually move well. My legs are large, but do not have much fat in them. Mind you, my endurance is not that great. Ah, the wonders of sitting at a computer for the last 20 years. Thinking about the pants, I thought they were sweats at first because of the lie of the fabric. In my case, they might be “Gratuitous Fan Disservice”.
yeah, i thought they were sweats too, until i looked close enough to see the belt loops around the waist-band… though… you never can tell theses days, they COULD be sweats, and just have the loops for “fashion”.
Okay, I know Brook’s not the sharpest tool in the shed, but if she was the one who mentioned that Max couldn’t have left the kissy marks on Amorphous since her lips are naturally red, then why did she mention getting revenge on Max? Did she just think that Max decided to wear red lipstick for no discernible reason, or did she just forget?
She couldn’t figure out who else had access, so it had to be Maxima. Even if Maxima doesn’t wear makeup, that doesn’t mean she can’t. She’s probably relieved it’s not Maxima she has a quarrel with, though.
Also, according to the cast page, she expands when powered up. The fact that she is taller and chestier than Harem in panel 8 is a bad sign for Harem, she’s shorter and slimmer when not “packing heat”, so to speak.
Her cast page also says: “Through a series of comic misadventures, Brook fell into the vigilante game”
Game? Hey Dave, shouldn’t that be “gang” ???
No, the word game is correct.
From the (online) merriam-webster dictionary part of the entry on the word ‘game’:
c (1) : a field of gainful activity : line (2) : any activity undertaken or regarded as a contest involving rivalry, strategy, or struggle ; also : the course or period of such an activity (3) : area of expertise : specialty 3
In this case (1) would be the relevant usage, methinks.
I would wear those pants.
Yeah; so where can we buy pants or t-shirts with “gratutious fan service” printed on them? I know several people who would wear them.
Nirvana, Hot Topic, Spencers, to name a few that might.
I wouldn’t WEAR them, but I’d love to get in them…
This.
Picked up Diablo 3 this afternoon. Started with a Monk. Very shiny.
Hey wait, the pictures of Achilles and Mr. Amorphous, you just took pictures of yourself and then drew over them, didn’t you!
Maybe if I hadn’t ruined my shoulder and started spending my free time drawing some webcomic. The biggest I ever got was… maybe Vin Diesel with 20lbs more fat. Now I’m… Jack Burton. With 20 lbs more fat.
(Aww, you ruined your chance! You’re supposed to roll with it!)
What is up with the awesome shot of Harem’s behind in panel 7? I think she’s my new favorite…
I have promised cheesecake and I have under delivered. I figured if I had some dude-abs I could add some lady booty as well.
I can only be thankful oh great one.
Okay, I have now checked through all the comments, and amazed that I shall be the first to do this, as it must be done.
Because Dave those two men, require that this be posted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFHlJ2voJHY
Big McLarge-Huge is my favorite.
I personally like Ripped McSteakface.
Okay, I doubt I’ll ever see the answer to this, but to our artist: Have you ever heard of a webcomic called Wereworld? There is a character called Dabbler in it who’s design is nearly identical to your Dabbler, and although I haven’t seen her use any magic I have seen a strip where other characters referred to her as a succubus (in a manner implying she can use magic) and she is a highly skilled engineer. I was just wondering if it was a coincidence or if it was intentional.
Yes this has been discused before. DaveB created Dabbler years ago and loaned her image to the creater of WereWorld.
That’s our Dave’s Dabbler. It’s been mentioned a few times over the past year in our comments.
Ah, ok. I didn’t find Grrl Power until a few months ago (it was either December or January) and only last week did I learn about WereWorld and start reading it. Also, unless I have a lot of time available (I’m currently working two jobs, so what time?) I very rarely try reading comments on any of the webcomics I read once they hit the double digit mark, and never once they hit the triple digit mark.
no problem, belated welcome to the super-asylum. Now, if you’ll excuse me. I’m late for my appointment with Dr.Harem’s group therapy. :)
Don’t get too worn out in there.
no worries there mate, Dabbler’s the guest speaker. ;)
just remember that two pay checks are way better then none
do you have a link for wereworld?
https://wereworld.comicgenesis.com/
Be aware it’s NSFW. Most pages are ok but there’s quite a bit of casual nudity in it.
and sex, plenty of casual sex too LoL.
yes this is so not a comic for children. those wild zebra girls are something. also the sand cat princess is interesting. she can sure get Steve’s attention.
used the link. read up to the latest one. anyone know when the next one comes out?
I want pants that say “Gratuitous Fan Service” on the ass! That’s way better than pants that say “Pink”.
Also considering how rare it is that the ‘pink’ pants have the color pink anywhere on them. Seriously, if you think black, gray, blue, and/or gold are pink, you are one crazy kind of colorblind…
This is the second clothing item in this comic that my girlfriend has desired.
The power-girl “cleavage-logo” t-shirt, from early in the comic, and now the “gratuitous fan service” pants.
I think you can get the cleavage t-shirt in most comic book stores. Well the better ones anyway.
It’s a power girl t-shirt, I’ve seen them on display in at least two comic book shops.
Why do all the women have collars, I mean chokers, and the boys, I mean men, don’t?
that’s just begging for a reply with the words “bitches” and “leashes”
The guys were undercover. Even with the illusions it’s not like they were going to carry any identifiable articles on them. The guys will have chokers I’ve decided, but they won’t look as sleek and sexy as the girls. They’ll be throat mics with logos on them.
Okay, but the guys do not have logos/symbols by their character descriptions. I imagine Achillies with a A where the cross bar extends into arms with bulging muscles and Mr. Amorphus havving a very wiggly A. Also, wouldn’t the women have throat mikes too? I think it would be standard issue for a team that can be easily separated.
Ah, well, that’s easy to explain. I forgot.
Can I just say that I would LOVE to have sweatpants/shorts or even a t-shirt that said “gratuitous fan service” on it? Because I totally would!
Another T-Shirt idea to add to the list for when I suddenly find myself with any free time at all. :P
… Why was brook annoyed that achilles said she was pretty?
IE, why the “HEY!!”?
To Quote DaveB from the first page of the comments, on this exact question…
Achilles was basically saying “Good thing you’re attractive, cause you sure ain’t smart.” That, she got.
I have a feeling that Brook is about to do something worse to Harem than Maxima did! :D
El Hazard thought just occured to me. In that anime there was a theme that humans from Earth got super-powers on this alien world, but only one of them had an immediatly obvious power; which then was revealed to have some un-expected twists,
but anywho the point here was that the others had powers that required these specific situations for them to realize they had powers; one being tech control (in a fantasy world not noticed till ancient machines were seen) another boy could communicate with giant insects; didn’t know it was a power as those were the first things he encountered there.
and there was this girl, whose power is what came back to me today looking at this strip and thinking about the two orbs of unknown power.
the ability to see through illussions (she didn’t know she had the power till she pointed out a person had blue skin who was using an illussion to hide this)
so what if one of Sydney’s orbs is the ability to see through illussions, and stays active so long as it is with in range of her. In other words what if those two guys to her were never disguised and she recognizes them.
here’s an idea for you, of course it depends on how evil DaveB wants to make Sydney.
Max throws her punch, Sydney freeze’s time, she then drops the force field and pulls out a black marker pen and draws a pair of glasses and a beard, etc, ties Max’s bootlaces together, walks/runs over to the other side of the room, raises her force field and unfreezes time
Harem may about to become a “fire crotch” in a way she shant like.
Talk about hot pants!
No male hero is complete without their Heroic Build.
Bodybuilders one and all.
got wonder if she BBQ Harem if it be legally murder since She got multiple bodys ??? Wonder if She get a ghost body since Magic works in this World? Wonder if there be a funeral or Will Harem Body vanish and She Grow a replacement? Or would her power be permanently reduced? Oh is it morbid I want her to die to answer these things?
I’m of the opinion that charges would be at the least aggravated assault, possibly going up to attempted murder. Brook’s defense could be “crime of passion”.
The existence of scientifically verifiable super powers would be the foundation of at least one new branch of law, since the issues of clone identity, teleporter location, time-traveler alibis would likely all eventually come up as pertinent to cases.
… To say nothing of the provable (presumably) existance of telepathy and/or other mental powers like precognition. How do the standard laws fare, when there are people around who can read thoughts?
A law enforcement officer who reads suspects’ minds could blunder into a legal minefield of EPIC proportions – with questions about privacy and self-incrimination flying thick and fast. A precog who accurately “know” beforehand which horse will win a race or what a jury’s verdict is before they make it would also pose major problems. Such people might be rare, but the possibility of their existance cannot be ignored.
If in doubt: blame the Doctor.
To quote said Doctor: “I’m a time traveler. I point and laugh at archaeologists.”
i think some post something like that on an rpg forum i read years ago, “would killing a clone be murder if there was more then one clone”
Because practical (as opposed to legal) identity is distinguished by personality, which is heavily influenced by events and memories, I would consider clones that have been away from their originator/genetic template to have begun to differentiate, and thus be different people, similar to identical siblings. Harem’s case would still be a little strange with her clones sharing their experiences with the rest of her in real-time.
By the classic common law definition of murder, killing a clone (outside of exercise of judicial capital punishment, military action during wartime, and such) would still count as murder, so long as a clone can be considered a human being. Issues with denying clones the rights of human beings would necessarily touch matters of legal identity, identical siblings, the children of ‘in vitro’ fertility clinics or treatments, and so on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder is a relatively concise article regarding defining murder, with light examinations of manslaughter, self-defense, and related concepts.
Telepaths might legally be barred from the exercise of certain professions due to privacy concerns, or they may be highly sought for those professions, though I can imagine that the prohibitions would be more likely. The same could be said for precognitives engaging in stock trading, and other logical ethical tests.
In DaveB’s world, it would be dependent on how long the super-scene has been around, in order for a body of case law and relevant legislation to have accumulated.
However, from early comments in the comic, it seems like this is in the early years of acknowledged supers being in the public eye, which could lead to Arianna being very proactive with legal motions, and trying very hard to keep ARCSWAT members from being the defining cases in case law regarding supers. (Sixth page of the comic, https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/82 )
Wow that art is rough.
I would think ARCSWAT would have immunity from any liability and prosecution just as any of our other military assets have. Even so Arianna would still have her hands full at misdirection and flat out lying to the public. Our govt and military does it all the time. But then that could have them being trailed by free lance reporters. Veteran ones who have been all over the world and seasoned as much as they are in combat situations.
I think they only have that kind of immunity in situations that are catagorized as emergency situations.
I’m not compleatly sure how much this is enforced inside the U.S.
Are you referring to the immunity to lawsuits in case of combat damage, firebreaks, flood control and such (which is very limited in application, as it should be) or the fact that military personnel are not tried in criminal courts for military crimes? If the latter, I assure you that a Court Martial under the Uniform Code of Military Justice is a hell of a long way from getting away with anything!
The Incredibles: Mr. Incredible got sued his pants off because he saved a guy who wanted to kill himself and got a bit hurt.
Wait a sec. Are you really basing your argument on a cartoon, Legion? If so, I think you are lacking a little in the “evidence” portion of your argument.
agreed. you have definitely improved. I almost thought it was a different comic.
He’s been drawing this comic for almost two years strait, you usualy improve with practice.
What happens to a double if destroyed. Personally I prefer the Naruto form where the doubles even though they are semi-independent vanish and spiritually just remerge with the original. Tenchi Muyo Ryoko and Ryo-ohki can split form and exist in multiple places at once, so fission and fusion are all kinds of wanky.
I didn’t care much for Marvel’s Chaos War’s X-men side story as it implied that each of Multiple Man’s doubles had their own souls (when the dead were all revived each Multiple Man copy that had been killed in the past was revived seperatly).
I wonder if Achelies got his powers in the eighties and hasn’t aged much since then.
He’s basicly indestructable so his cells probably live a lot longer than normal cells, which means he ages a lot slower than normal people.
Mr. Amorphous might be considered simi-imortal as well, with him being able to regenerate at such a high speed.
Two people aging slowly for totaly diffrent reasons.
Actually that was what the original Team X had in common. All of their mutations included some form of retarded aging component.
Maybe Achilles is so indestructible that he can’t get a haircut?
That would fit with his description of being aggravatingly invincible. :D
If thats the case his body dosn’t change, his hair can’t be cut or grow. He truly is immortal.
Nah, I think he’s stuck in an eighties mindset. He just refuses to change his hairstyle.
It just occurred to me that if his hair is not indestructible, then events such as “taking a cruise missile to the face” would leave him temporarily bald.
Hair isn’t actually alive, it’s dead skin cells filled with protein; if it was living tissue a haircut would be incredibly painful. So if his cells are individually indestructible and never die and get replaced by new ones then I’d guess his hair stays exactly as it is and doesn’t grow and can’t be cut. Then again, if he’s just incredibly resilient and possibly possesses some form or regenerative ability then I’d guess his hair grows normally (if not faster than normal) and can be cut easily because the cells are dead and are not affected by the same powers as his living tissue.
I’m guessing.
wait didn’t heatwave moment of clarity on comic #77 point out that maxima wasn’t the culprit
No she just realized that something fishy happened. She didn’t quite make the leap to guess it wasn’t Maxima.
Do those “Gratuitous…” sweats really exist? It’s a funny joke, but I almost expect to see someone walking down the street wearing those sometime soon!
Not yet, but now the idea is out there, so someone who wants to make $$$$ off this idea will likely start up a line with this in mind.
Maby if DaveB ever go’s on the con circuit, he can sell things like that at his booth.
He can glean many excellent t-shirt ideas form these comment pages if he does that.
One phrase: “Always expect NINJAS!”T-shirts. :P
Been There… Done That… got TWO T-shirts :D
that was the point. ;)
Ok I know this is seriously off-topic but I just re-read the entire series cause i was at work and bored (because I enjoy the story not because there was nothing better to do) and I have a question will we ever meet any of the people from the RPG game at the beginning of the series particularly the tall black haired woman. 2nd Is that woman supposed to be Olivia from comic # 19 Thx again and Great comic been reading since Page 1
Yes and yes.
Not related to this particular page, but this link had me thinking about what Syd’s reaction would be
Sydney would eat that for breakast. And then lunch. And maybe supper.
sorry – that didn’t work. try https://uk.news.yahoo.com/sizzler–butcher-creates–hottest-sausage-in-the-world–with-chillis-used-in-grenades–.html
Do I spy an Archer shout out?
Possibly? I like Archer but I’m not sure what you’re referring to.
Guess not lol
I was thinking of the episode when Archer is training Cyrril, so Lana keeps popping in on Jane; next to the vending machine, in the bathroom.
Guess it reminded me of it :p
that last line.
waaait a minute… Rereading this series again, and wasn’t she the one that figured out that maxima doesn’t wear lipstick in the first place?
Defiance expected. I never imagine french accents unless prompted to; my “One explanation later” is in anything from a British accent to that of a southern gentleman, but generally settles somewhere around the host of a Masterpiece Theater type of program. Or more likely a 1950s radio announcer, since I haven’t seen MT in decades. Probably someone like Paul Frees or Orson Welles, maybe even Vincent Price or Dick Powell or William Conrad. I have tons of choices, but point being, Clouseau wouldn’t be in the top 500.
That should say Accepted, not expected.