Grrl Power #863 – A dangerous day to be a swinging log
In some ways, Sydney is always the main character wherever she goes because she tends to always be the center of the attention. It’s not an intentional thing she does, but attempts to wean her into a higher level of self awareness tend to be a temporary solution.
On the plus side, getting Sydney on board with any given project is just a matter of finding the right hook. I’m not sure what they’ll use to get Sydney interested in marching about in formation. Stripes leaps to mind, but that movie doesn’t exactly promote the sort of military discipline they ultimately want to instill in her.
The Carter Special, for those of you who don’t know, was a custom prop made for Amanda Tapping because while the show did switch to P90’s for the reasons that Sydney spews, it eventually became difficult to get P90 props and blanks because of the Iraq war. It was a mishmash of three different guns. I thought it looked cool, especially because Carter usually had one of those hundred round Mickey Mouse-ear double drum clips. But it also had a 7″ barrel on it, so… might not be the greatest choice for engagements out past a hundred yards.
Anyway, here’s the obligatory “Carter dunking on Jaffa with a P90” scene from SG-1. I feel like I’ve probably linked this before, but it’s always fun to watch.
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About guns Sydney is like Peggy if an Hecate II was issued to her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dGCSutRXFM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_vfXcvWkps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_TZkLaTVq4
Precision rifle with 1 500 meters (1640 yards) of practical range in .50 BMG
For anime reference it’s the wrong hair color https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0laNh8y1vwg
As a french I do not understand japanesse fascination for our firearms
I think it might be from the fact that they don’t have many of said weapons in the country tho most of it might be “They LOOK COOL’ factor.
It’s also a lousy drawing of the rifle. Check out the shot of the front of the weapon at https://youtu.be/0laNh8y1vwg?t=49 It looks nothing like the weapon being demoed in the three live videos you provided.
It’s a sweet looking rifle (er, the real one not the anime one), and I’d love to fire it one day!
Umm, didn’t she get the Hecate at the end of the video? :confused:
It’s only atthe end of video she get it.
Thought so
Speaking of SAO2 and Sinon…
https://youtu.be/1A5mM9j54zA
Now I have to rewatch stargate again. Thanks Dave
That slide bite does look bad, but at least it isn’t Garand thumb!
If you think that’s bad, wait until she’s shown scoped firearms and gets a taste of scope bite.
Having used a P90… yes, it’s awesome.
Lucky!
Gotta love the little details.
Ren up there drinking his coffee with class in panel one lol
I kinda want to see Peggy go “the rest of you… You’ll never hear this in training again, but thank you for acting like professional soldiers.” Just to let everybody else get some appreciation for putting up with the insane amount of slack Sydney gets (and given her powers, they would be insane to NOT give her enough slack to keep her on the team, but still)…
Not to mention how in the very short time that she’s been on the team, she’s basically saved the entire team’s collective lives (including Maxima at least one time), 2-3 times. Plus tends to consistently know when bad thing are about to happen/able to give a massive heads up to the team consistently (Vehemence the reverse ninja, Sciona’s booby trap, the destruction of Alari Prime, The Council Mannekiller Attack, Finding Pixel after she was taken by Sciona, warning about the supermannekiller’s abilities, etc). Plus also has killed or defeated enemies that even Maxima would either have trouble with or that she was incapable of stopping herself (again, Vehemence, probably Death Toll, possibly the Kaiju worldkillers).
Plus, as Maxima has mentioned, she has a very disarming and human personality because she’s not ‘supermodel perfect’ looking, and her powers are extremely marketable for Ariana (her orbs, her comic book shop, etc). ANNNND now she’s someone who can get humanity into interstellar space easier, not to mention she’s sort of the media posterchild for ‘liaisons with aliens’ (even though technically humanity’s governments have been in cahoots with aliens for decades now – Sydney coming out of Cora’s spaceship is one of the first examples of it captured on film for the news).
And also Sydney makes a honest effort to act more professional and learn. Sure, she fails hilariously all the time but she still keeps trying wich counts for something.
• I am in this photo and I don’t like it
I don’t know if Sydney would recognize the double-double barrel shotgun Reg used in the Phantasm movies. If she did, hopefully she would know that it would throw her on her cute backside when she shoots all four barrels at once.
Sydney’s thumbs appear to be on the wrong sides of her hands in panel 5.
those are Peggy’s hands grabbing her face to focus her.
P90, Belgium represent!
Wait, if Sydney has cuts on both hands, does that mean she was using both to shoot? As in, ambidextrous?
Pistol training includes both hands. Easier with a revolver but still technically possible with most semi-auto pistols. Except some with grip safeties that can’t be worked with the left hand. All I had to do was get 5 out of 6 in the paper with my left hand to qualify as long as I met the standard for passing with my right. And don’t ask what the standard was for my dominant hand, that as almost 45 years ago and 3 dead pickup trucks ago.
Indeed! I am an equally lousy shot with a pistol using either hand. But it feels perfectly natural in either hand also. It is one of the few things that I am ambidextrous with. I do use the dominant eye regardless of which hand I’m firing with, however.
Also ambi-clumsy. But my primary problem at the range these days is not being able to see the little holes in the target at enough of a distance to be challenging. Wish I could have afforded the GOOD lenses when I got my cataract surgery, instead of the bargain basement ones my insurance covered.
Thank you, it was just a little detail needed to check :)
I’m sure she would love to fire two pistols while jumping around screaming cheap one liners like if she was in a B action flick but her trainers would never allow it as long as they value their careers, sanity and skin.
One of our Instructors did that with 2 Mp2 (outdated machine pistol) for the lulz, but he was a jokester anyway.
Ahh, my favorite gun in Goldeneye~
I always loved the “this is a weapon of terror / this is a weapon of war” scene in Star Gate SG1.
The show had a unique blend of action, drama, humor and a great chemistry between the characters, which resulted in some pretty epic moments.
Indeed it did.
And then someone had the (sarcasm)BRILLIANT(/sarcasm) idea of deciding to throw out most of that action and humor and write forced rather than natural chemistry and have a show where the drama was AMPED UP TO ELEVEN, something nobody wanted nor asked for.
Gee, wonder why that show panned and in the process, singlehandedly killed the entire franchise? Could it perhaps be that it decided to take everything which made the show be the gem it was, and throw it out?
(/Universe rant. I am still so, so bitter about whoever made that atrocious decision.)
Atlantis was good though, at least.
a bit of a shark jump (but by the time Atlantis came out they had already been shark jumping SG-1) and made the Ancients look even more like idiots whose tech hit a plateau for thousands of years; and just increased the finger wagging at them for thinking its not their mess to clean up after ascending (it never made sense, other responsibilities…it was still your civilization, turning into glowing squids doesn’t change that, pick your crap up; its affecting the natural development of multiple galaxies, and giving hostile aliens a leg up);
-odd side thing, aesthetics wise Star Gate Atlantis had a very Phantasy Star feel to the locations and tech designs, specifically Phantasy Star Online.
but character wise was fine (save a few nitpicks but those were influenced by behind the scenes contract and real life changes), early seasons of SG-1 were still the best..
Universe was trash…like soooo many court marshals….throwing out the working formula because they wanted to mix things up and…just made a complete and utter rip-off of the remake of Battle Star Gallactica down to the characters with plot lines that sounded like they could have been cleared up easily if everyone had any sense.
Plus Atlantis had some really good villains though, like Michael, Steve, Todd, the Asurans, the Genii (sometimes), and the Vanir.
My only real gripe with Stargate Atlantis, aside from the crappy ending (it only ended because they wanted to make room for Stargate Universe, not because of bad ratings, because Stargate Atlantis had REALLY GOOD ratings) – talk about a bad trade – is that they did NOTHING with Aydin after he became an antagonist. He just sort of dropped down the memory hole and was never heard from again. Wasted opportunity.
I also was not a fan of Rodney’s sister – she was just an awful character.
Still not as good as SG-1, but it was a good spinoff. No idea why they would have cancelled it to make way for a horrible show like Universe.
I’d like to point out that Todd was never shown to actually be on the villain’s side. He was a wraith, yes, and the wraith as a whole were an enemy of the Atlantis crew, but in every appearance I can remember him, those specific circumstances had him be on the side of our heroes, aligning with them. By the end of Atlantis, he had even gotten rid of his need to feed, meaning he had no reason to be an enemy at all.
Now, granted. He may have done some behind-the-scenes intentions-to-screw-them-over, like stealing a ZPM secretly to keep, but he never actually WAS an enemy, never was a villain. There was always, always, always the potential he could become antagonistic–but in the show, as it so happened, he never was.
And, I do agree that the lack of Aydin later-on was really disappointing. There was every chance to flesh him out in whatever way they wanted. He could’ve been redeemed as a hero again, he could’ve become an outright villain openly antagonistic to the heroes, or they could’ve kept him as somewhere as a middle ground with him making future appearances.
They just…didn’t do anything there.
And, yeah, my main gripe with the show is the rushed ending, which isn’t their fault; they got cancelled for essentially no reason with very little warning so had to rush the wrap-up; given the circumstances, not much they could’ve done.
And, yeah. Just..screw Universe so, so hard and all the people responsible for the decision-making behind it. The actors for that show can’t be blamed, they acted what they were given magnificently, they were good actors who acted well, and the scriptwriters did their very best to make the setting be intriguing with some mysteries and such so they did their best to TRY and make it succeed given the formula they were forced to work with.
So I don’t blame the actors or the scriptwriters.
I do blame the people who made the decision to make Universe be a knitty gritty grimdark super-serious dramafest. A decision which had to have happened at a more executive level, and those executives who made it should’ve been fired on the spot for their utter incompetence.
Oh yeah, can’t go wrong with space-vampires, a classic in sci-fi villains. Loved the Wraith.
the Asuran were okay, but around this time in television there was a noticeable trend in budgets for sci-fi and supernatural type shows where they decided to get away with using costume design or excuses for everything to look exactly like humans; like not even rubber forehead aliens, with some CGI. Yeah Star Gate got away it a lot but they had the space seeded with humans by several different aliens excuse and their own xenogenesis origin being the one terraforming the planets they could connect to.
that said my one big gripe with the Asuran storyline was the massive wasted opportunity that was the return of the Ancients…like why even bother when they were killed off in the very next episode. Just to show had bad the Asuran were? Great, they fridged a while crew of new characters and future plot lines like the idea of helping the ancients adjust to a world post ascension for most their kind, humble them in over thinking like with the Asgard, maybe meet the Furlings (yeah never forgiving that we never saw them…and imagination doesn’t count…filler episode), but I will forever believe they were dragons.
anywho, in all Atlantis had good villains, characters, like I said only minor nitpicks, but most of which couldn’t be helped, but budget wise I do question making the Asuran so plain when the Wraith look so awesome.
Brother! I hated Universe with a white hot passion. They took everything good about the Stargate universe, sucked all the cleverness and joy out of it, and turned into an arrogantly, aggressively, abysmall stupid angst-fest. It last two season too long.
forgot the part where they used the mp-5 for like a season and a half
Early Stargate is…a bit hard to swallow. If you have never seen any Stargate Atlantis or Stargate SG-1 and you asked someone to watch the show, you’d very much need to tell them, “Trust me. No, really. TRUST me. It gets much, much better. I swear. Last through this until season 4 and you will instantly want to watch the rest.”
Early episodes are, by and large, fairly cringe, and it wasn’t until somewhere in the season 3-4 range that the writers really found their groove and nailed the winning formula for the show that made it be the smash hit that it was, beloved by generations to come as one of the longest-running, most-adored sci-fi shows of all time.
So, it is in fact very easy to forget aspects of earlier episodes, their weapon of choice included. P90s are pretty signature of the series, everyone who watches Stargate SG-1/Atlantis knows that it’s the signature weapon of the Tau’ri, used by them everywhere on all fronts–which means that, yes, it is a shock to see that they weren’t there from the getgo, they weren’t there from the onset, due to Early Installment Weirdness.
the show creators did say in one of the specials that the first two seasons were like an experiment. they didn’t know how well it would do so were throwing whatever they came up with at the wall to see what stuck. Why we got things that never came back up again (like the giant aliens); and things that made no sense physics wise given later seasons seemed to be chained down by the laws of physics at times; like the planet that was half light and half dark but didn’t explain how they could survive like that; or the Zats vaporizing bodies in defiance of thermal dynamics in how they did it while all other weapons, especially later on were more tightly bound by physics.
i think Peggy forgets how popular certain guns are in pop culture; there’s an auto shotgun, the Pancor Jackhammer, 3 built, 2 destroyed in testing, yet it crops up in video games and why? cuz the whole idea of auto shotguns is fun, from a shootemup perspective
I absolutely LOVED the Pancor Jackhammer in Fallout 2!
And yeah, the military has used combat shotguns for a very, very long time. They offer advantages and disadvantages as opposed to rifles… but both types of long guns are far superior to any pistol, for actual effectiveness. (Hence the saying, “the purpose of a pistol is for fighting your way to where you keep your long gun.”)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combat_shotgun
I find it amusing that in WWI the Germans, who introduced chemical weapons, complained that the Winchester 1897 Trench Shotgun was an “inhumane weapon.”
Is this any good?
I’d suggest this one, but at my vint-age bullpups are just not clever. Guns are for killing things, not looking cool.
It is super deadly, but just a little slow when compared to the Fostech Origin 12.
Are we referring to the AA-12 or the Tavor TS12?
Having asked the question, what is fast? From my PoV, 2 per second is simply faster than most large animals (this includes humans) can duck and dodge. And it doesn’t stress my trigger finger :)
P90. Both in Stargate SG1, as well as my favourite gun in Goldeneye. This is just awesome.
Also the favorite weapon of Katrin Murphy.
KARRIN. I hate phones.
I will be the one to say it,
Jazza
Ren
Azarin
Syd
sounds like an incantation, LoL
Azarath, Metrion, Zinthos!
exactly what popped in my head LoL
Whereas my subconscious went “Treguna Mekoides Trecorum Satis Dee”. Sometimes the early impressions are harder to shake :D
Anal Nathak Uthfar Bethude Dalkyen Denvay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4I_zbi3Sak
oh my goodness, Bedknobs and Broomsticks, I haven’t seen that movie in decades, barely remember it at this point beyond the animated segment and fighting Germans. I’m going to have to hunt it down now and rewatch it.
It’s also the gun the main character of the Sword Art Online Alternative: Gun Gale Online spinoff uses. In bright pink.
I don’t know about props*, but I have to wonder why they couldn’t just reload their own blanks? Not from their own staff, probably, but they could hire it out to a company to do for them.
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* Although I am curious about why a war makes a gun prop harder to find… I wouldn’t think the military would be snapping those up, since they could just use the real thing for any purpose that needed a prop and probably cheaper since props might be more expensive due to the efficiencies of scale: Buy 100,000 actual guns and the price drops. Buy 1,000 props and you’re probably not getting much of a discount for volume. But then again, 100,000 P90s might be far too high a figure, because isn’t the P90 only used in the US military by some special forces type units? As far as I am aware it is not a general issue weapon.
the usual way it goes is that the “prop” guns either come from a collectors collection, from a stockpile, or from a large order about to be shipped out and the propmaster asks to borrow the guns for a certain amount of time as props and are told how long they can borrow em for and what its gonna cost them after checking for the appropriate paperwork, contracts, and licenceing (unless the gun is a pure fantasy/sci-fi model than the propmaster is going to have to fabricate them) its usually cheaper and easier to borrow lets say 100 p90’s for a afternoon or two’s shoot, off of an order of lets say 10k p90’s that are going to be shipped out at 6am next Monday or so (the cash from the borrowing is usually used to help pay storage costs depending upon the contract and whom is being borrowed from)
that way all the propmaster has to do is not lose any of the “props”, pick em up for the shoot, before and after the shoot check the “props” over recording any unusual details/damage, record who signs out what model# “prop”, if necessary fix or return any damaged “props”, and find/replace any missing “props” (though missing props are going to cause their bloodpressure to spike hard until found).
So the weapons in movies are often real firearms. How fascinating!
Yep – cheaper and faster than hand-building something (unless you need a distinctive sci-fi gizmo), and they look really authentic. :D
There’s generally someone on set who’s sole job is to monitor the firearms, including clearing weapons after a take and inspecting all the blank ammo to make sure it’s blanks, both when it’s brought on site and again when it’s loaded up and issued to the actors. It’s bad enough accidentally destroying authentic pieces, accidentally shooting a famous coworker (on film no less) is a terrifying prospect.
Just ask Brandon Lee… oh wait, you can’t, he ded
Feel free to drop SG-1 clips anytime.
Really. We don’t mind.
new training tactic for sydney. find firearms used in sci-fi/comics
That “special” looks like they ran afoul of California gun laws banning any weapon whose pistol grip extends farther below the bore axis than the butt and had to switch to something that doesn’t have a “pistol grip” as defined in silly laws …
… or someone else did and the people makign the show thought it looked cool.
SG-1 was filmed in Vancouver, British Columbia. California’s gun laws wouldn’t apply.
Notwithstanding the legal jurisdiction of the filming location…
Do they use actual weapons on set? Or would the state of California try to enforce firearm regulations on non-functional movie props that are not in fact firearms? I wouldn’t think so. Otherwise next they’d be applying aircraft rules to X-wing fighters.
Hmmm. Hmmmm, Hmmmm. Vote Incentive: Mayan Calendar Girl. Hmmmm.
How does one get slide bite with a Five-Seven?
I find that one of the weapons mentioned has a “textured thumb hole buttstock”. Eeewwww…..
Which of them heals slide bite?
you commenting about panel 5?
because those are Peggy’s hands grabbing Sydney’s face in a “focus” manner.
Next up: the ZF-1. At least we know Sydney will ask about the little red button.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jVsQToSfag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuamSKIvhcA
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Sidny is going to get a talking to about running with a gun like that.
Why? It doesn’t have any sharp pointy bits… Does it?
Firearms safty rule number one. Always treat a gun like it’s loaded and ready to fire.
To be fair, we only know that she has zipped off in the direction of the range; we don’t know how she’s holding the P90 as she does so. There are presumably several approved ways of moving fast while carrying one that definitely is ready to fire, to minimise the chances of accidental discharge (or other damage) in ‘live’ operations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuamSKIvhcA
Uh oh … lookout Groot!
Well as far as firearms go, the P90 is sexy little beast.
It will likely be revealed in the next page, but it worries me that Sydney appears to have bolted to the range with the P90. Peggy wouldn’t let a trainee run off with a firearm that they aren’t trained for, right? Even with Sydney’s firearm training and the P90 appearing to not have a magazine attached, the treatment of guns being always loaded is still in effect. Peggy signed out that P90 from the armory, so its her responsibility.
To be fair, the panel that Sydney’s holding the P90 may be her pretending to wield it as a visual prop and I’m overthinking it.
Those are Peggy’s hands gripping Sydney’s face in panel 5 (thumb orientation and lack of bandages), and if they’re gripping Sydney’s face then they’re not gripping a P90. Sydney’s got it.
Sydney is the biggest fkn mood in this comic. In her position, I would do exactly the same thing.
Although I didn’t know that about the reason why they switched to the P90! I learned something new today. Thank you.
I think my favorite movie gun is the COP45 pistol used in Blade Runner. Basically a four-barreled deringer. Compact, powerful, but with a regrettably high trigger pull. The movie version was modified to fire two rounds at once to give a more impressive muzzle flash.
Syd ran so fast her chair underwent meiosis… I cant run that fast but I’d want to to fire a p-90 myself. Cheerful exuberance at 11.
Still,how would Sydney and the others handle the French made FAMAS and/or the preceding rifles used by the French military?
Ooooh, so that’s why they’re built so weirdly? To eject the shell downwards?
You can almost hear the anime “KEEEEEEEN” sound effect of Sydney grinning in panel four.