Grrl Power #836 – Playing the game
Yabbos is a good word. I don’t think I’ve heard or read it anywhere in at least a decade though.
While Dabbler would like to get Max laid, she understands that it’s not always about flashing the most skin. Succubi sometimes can’t always get what they want straight away, so they all know how to play The Game. Honestly, it isn’t Dabbler’s specialty, but she did go to Succubus Finishing School. She did the coursework. Every succubus in school is given a target to seduce. Each semester they got increasingly difficult targets, starting from some introvert nerd at the boy’s school across town who never leaves his room, (the first semester is a gimme grade) then on to more challenging prey like priestesses of the Goddess of Chastity, then some virtuous hero who is actually a genuinely good guy (the seduction part is easy – but they’re not allowed to fall in love with him), up to really challenging stuff like asexual golems, and even guys like Hiro the Dense. That’s the advanced class though.
Unsurprisingly, it’s usually not that difficult for a succubus academy to set up in a new city. Sure, some try to put on a front of wholesomeness an purity, but there are plenty of other cities that actually compete to host a succubus campus.
I recently discovered. Harley Quinn. Not… in general. Specifically the currently running cartoon. The plot of the first season has Harley breaking up with the Joker and trying to establish herself as a villain in her own right. The thing I like about it is it’s quite funny. Harley hangs out with Poison Ivy, not as part of her crew, they just hang out and talk girl stuff most of the time. Alan Tudyk voices the Joker, but more importantly, Clayface, who yes, while he can shapeshift, can’t resist the urge to be an ac-TOOOOOR! Ron Funches plays King Shark, who if you’ve never heard of him before, is basically a giant anthropomorphic shark. King Shark is. Not Ron Funches. But instead of being a big brute, he’s a web developer and hacker. Okay, he does bite at least one head off, but mostly it’s computer stuff. Christopher Meloni, from the amazing “Happy!” on Netflix, plays an incredibly stressed out Commissioner Gordon.
It’s surprisingly violent, full of swearing, and funny. Not quite Archer funny, but it’s up there. It’s totally my jam. Oh, and Kite Man? Yes, he is as dumb as he sounds, and he is a real DC character. They didn’t make him up for this show. Honestly the show kind of reminds me of when John Byrne got his hands on She Hulk, and started bringing back a bunch of Marvel’s stupid Golden Age characters for Shulkie to have to deal with.
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It’s like they’re planning an assault.
Which they are, sort of.
People seem to think that the super fights are all about the world ending threats, but in reality, the hardest ones are those you face without the help of superpowers.
Yeah, the hardest fights are the ones to prevent world ending threats
Dabs understands that all courtship ritual is nothing more than a struggle for dominance.
Of course. Dabbler, very long-lived & not even human, has the advantage of having long-term view & study of human “social rituals” from a more outsider’s objective perspective than Anvil would have. Dabs even has formal education (Succubus Finishing School) under her belt (in a manner of speaking).
Under her belt, or below her belt?
Absolutely. Of course Dave has established that practically everything is a struggle for dominance with Succubi. Max could get laid any time she wanted to. But Max’s desire to retain the dominant power position speaks to Dabbles’ instincts. Kenya just wants to get Max laid (and dress her up like a living Barbie doll) while Dabbles is fully on board with the all aspects of the courtship, including establishment of dominance.
Another? Wait, is that a side story? Are we going to get to see it, even if as a flashback?
when syd got the re-breather, Dues and Max talked about endorsement deals- she suggested she might want an invisible jet. This caught dues off guard and he blew his scotch all over his suit. its near the wall of swords panel.
Wow. I had completely forgotten that scene! Mind you it was over 400 pages ago [Page 411] …….I stand corrected.
And it was the SUIT that was said to be $3000, not the drink, which makes “another” technically incorrect
I was thinking the same thing, so I went and verified it.
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/comic/grrl-power-411-tete-a-tet-offensive/
$3000 suit
I am so fucking bored!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Coronavirus just take me now
She’s coming for you ….
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urmKT5d51V4
PS: If anyone can translate … that would be great =)
The song is an edit of Renai Circulation, with seemingly no change to the words. Here’s a link to the original, with karaoke subtitles and translation on screen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDR0JMyoQGA
Thank you … thank you … =^_^=
Try being able to diagnose why a mostly non-communicative person (being able to pick up a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ from subtle signs) is extremely agitated, when you have less than two minutes to spare between keeping fourteen other people alive. Which means having to fit that into time allocated for looking after that individual.
“Is it OK for me to move you about, whilst I care for you? I will be gentle. Right, let me know if it hurts you when I touch you anywhere. Mmm, so nothing, but you are hurting? Yes. Is it when you breathe? Ahh, OK. Nothing else? No. Good. You have been sick for a long time, but I can tell you are a lot more alert now. Let me tell you about this disease, and the best news is that you are getting better …”
I don’t get to have that ending to the conversation much…
…
Today is a good day. I got to say it twice. And have stayed awake enough to be able to unwind about it!
And, no, not having a dig. It is just one of the good things about my job is that there is no such thing as boredom, even in normal times. So seeing your post really made me chuckle. Today I did six things which actively helped to save people’s lives. Three of those simultaneously! And got to see that other things I did days ago are helping to save many lives.
If you’re bored, play some Beat Saber, and you will no longer be bored.
You can listen to this while playing it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnKxhbRqqx0
They would be disappointed to find out the first bottle of scotch was over the “invisible jet” comment…unless of course there is a running tally and that wasn’t the first time Max had made him shoot scotch out of his nose.
Alcohol in the sinus cavities can be quite painful…At least, up until the alcohol’s anesthetic properties started working.
The Underboob Window!
The boob window we’ve all been waiting for since we started reading a webcomic about female superheroes.
Loving the expressions on everyone on this page. Good work Dave
Hey, I’m a firmly convinced that boobs want to be free & nipples are leading the way forward.
I’m halfway convinced that Max secretly wants to dress more sexily, (and wears crotchless panties everyday) but is actually too shy and just hides both fact under the guise of Third-Wave Feminism
No, I think Boxilar hit it; Max wants to be at least an equal partner of a relationship, if not the dominate one,
but given how most males can’t meet here eyes because of her yabbos, then she gets defensive about it.
And for Max, a good offense is the best defense.
The buttons!
Those two poor, suffering buttons! Will no one ease their terrible burden??
I was totally persuaded from her exchange with Decollete that Xuriel had missing going to succubi finishing school. Hmm, maybe she dropped out.
I can see Anvil’s and Dabbler’s PoV here, but Max’s one weirds me out. Come on girl, it’s just cleavage; breasts; normal equipment for a female mammal. You are a nigh-invulnerable, super-strong, super-quick powerhouse able to release the equivalent of a nuke by pointing a finger. You totally own the power dynamic with normals anywhere and everywhere regardless of how much skin you show (or not).
I’m sorry, but given the SIZE, shape and color there is NO way you can convince THOSE are normal equipment for a female mammal. No female Super (except oddly Krona – Sydney doesn’t count) is small, but, excepting Anvil, Max’s are in a class by themselves. Admittedly, all female mammals have nipples and most have breasts, but her’s are almost another superpower.
Well, we know whatever agent gives superpowers also optimizes the subject’s body in terms of fitness, beauty, and sexual features. Since the latter also includes well-developed breasts for females, and Max is the best super we knoe of, she also gets the best boobies.
By the way, the complexity of actual superpowers is another matter entirely, but biologically speaking, giving someone an ideal body by advanced genetic tinkering isn’t that complex.
Krona is an odd case. Available evidence so far suggests she is not a super, but a wizard that somehow got the human, instinctive insight equivalent of a Nth species’ mastery of the universe’s cheat codes.
Since Krona’s power lets her edit the universe we can’t actually say for certain if she is an exception to the Supers Gots the Boobies rule. She may have had large breasts and just decided she didn’t like them. Krona is uniquely qualified to control her own appearance.
Admittedly we know that Krona likes to tinker with her appearance on occasion (e.g. that time she made her hair of three different colors on a whim to complete a set Sydney mentioned). So the argument has some merit. We would need some more info on whether she indeed regards her current appearance as the best for her or not.
Alternatively, it might be she is not yet confident enough to alter her body in more radical ways than changing her hair color. Although giving yourself or someone else bigger boobies is fairly simple, as far as body alterations go; just add fat or an artificial equivalent in the right way. Surgeons have been able to do it for 50+ years.
Personally I tend to be rather skeptical of any supposed exception to the “super with inherent powers = ideal bodies” rule, since we got no confirmed case so far.
Pixel is the closest (known) we’ve got to an exception to the ideal bodies rule, but that’s because in her normal form she isn’t “super” just “were”. Once she transforms she becomes super and idealized.
Yeah, funny isn’t it? How everyone says a woman’s breasts are hers… until she decides not to show them in public
And don’t forget when she tries to use them for their actual biological purpose.
If you think that’s bad watch what happens when she shows them to feed her child. Lots of stories about women being thrown out of buses, trains, stores, etc, etc, etc for nursing a child.
This just shows prudishness is stupid and harmful no matter what, but doubly so when it interferes with a normal and necessary bodily function. Personally I find the spectacle of a mother feeding a child in public cute and soothing. It is a tender reassurance life endures for another generation.
Whoops, sorry for the double post.
Authoritarian prudishness is always oppressive, silly, and harmful, but doubly so when it targets a mother feeding a child. Personally I find the spectacle way cute and soothing, a tender confirmation that life endures. Nobody better try pulling that kind of crap in my presence if I have a say.
It is just cleavage.
It would be nice though, if the average not terribly mature man, could remember that same thing and would not figuratively all but bury his attention (and head) in there.
Believe me, that gets old in a screaming hurry.
(and yes, I know. Not all men. Just a large enough percentage that you come to expect it. And I also am aware that we tend to give out a wee bit of mixed signals with push ups and deep cut necklines. That’s stupid and still no excuse)
Prolonged staring is always uncouth in any circumstances unless the situation is truly exceptional. A quick glance, however, is justified if the subject dresses or behaves in a way that inevitably attracts attention (in that case, mission accomplished) and since human brain is wired to react to unusual/novel sights and sexualized visual clues of the kind the individual normally feels attractive.
It IS a biological imperative, as Math said.
That being, it’s definitely easy enough to, yanno, just focus on the FACE. Not like understanding what’s going on on a person’s face isn’t where a large chunk of the brain is focused. Not like face-to-face communication, and meeting eyes, is a major part of communication. Nosir.
That being said, what gets me is when there’s TEXT there. _I can’t not read it!_
I get anxious about eye/face contact sometimes. Just cannot hold it. And when the eyes wander…
Look at the lips: have a similar ‘problem’ with looking at peoples’ eyes, so tend to look at their mouth
You know, I really have trouble squaring Dabbs’ personality. Is she a genius? A warrior? A suave succubus? A ditz?
Yes.
And much more. That’s why she’s know as Dabbler…A Jill of All Trades, even if none of them have been mastered.
They have been mistressed though, many times
Yes, all of those, just not at the same time. They time share.
Dabbbler is not easily slotted.
Heheh… ‘slotted’… okay, maybe she IS, in that sense.
Hiro the Dense? Whoa Dave, he is so ………………………. dense. Clueless is a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuge understatement!
Why do I get the impression that what Xuriel means by “mess dress” isn’t what everyone else has in mind?
According to what we saw about hers and Decollete’s fashion sense, it is probably akin to a stripperific cocktail dress enchanted to provide maximum protection. See how Dabbler glamour-adjusted the look of the sentient armor she wore to a go-go outfit during the mannikiller battle, or the dress Decollete wore in her night club.
I am sure in this case she is speaking of the official mess dress the organization uses as they are referring to a formal type of uniform. They all probably have a set of fitted mess dress uniforms in thier closets for certain occasions.
Dabbler probably assumes Mess Dress is a dress to ‘mess around’ in…
Mess Dress is for formal occasions not usually open to the general public.
Such as a Mess Dinner or functions with dignitaries at Head of State level.
It’s most definitely not intended, nor would it be authorized, for a business lunch.
You’re right about Harley Quinn, it’s an awesome show that I would recommend for anyone
Maybe Maxi should go with something a bit more…..conservative!?!?
Like a Catholic School Girl uniform?
An ACTUAL Catholic schoolgirl uniform IS pretty conservative.
Just DON’T use the one Dabs is wearing – that’s a SLUTTY Catholic schoolgirl uniform, completely different ball of wax.
OOOOHHH…. Slutty Mess Dress….
A skilled succubus can wear anything in a slutty way. Even a bomb suit.
Now I have to suggest that for some artists in a Sexy Halloween Costume contest going on. Started in March, winners get posted starting 10/1 and the top prize costume gets posted Halloween.
I would like to see how that will turn out.
And that’s the problem with modern Feminism, it’s practitioners spend way too much time thinking about power dynamics were there are none & constantly assume the worst of men
Feminists of Day Past weep
It is safer that way.
If you prefer to live in a perpetual state of one-sided warfare with the other half of humanity (which you actually need if you want to reproduce), sure. Knock yourself out (and please stay out of my social circle if possible). Just remember my rights don’t end where your feelings begin, and I’m going to fight to keep them if need be.
you are jumping to conclusions a bit here.
Nobody is talking about ‘war’.
Read the literature written by old school feminists before you attempt to advance that proposition.
I have.
I would argue that
1 – they had more cause.
2 – they still were being methaphorical
3 – the phrase (and to a large extent the sentiment) was invented by men
And yes, I forgot to put in the word ‘here’ at the end of my reply
My initial response really was to the ‘feminists assume the worst of men’ jab. Sadly, that really is the safer assumption. Not because most or even a majority of men behave that way, but because such a larger group does that it is just safer and simpler to assume the worst and let that majority of men pleasantly surprise you. Remember that Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh, Bill Clinton, Bill Cosby, Harvey Weinstein, Joe Biden, Donald Trump, Roger Aisley, Sean Hannity and hundreds of others are just the famous and tiny tip of a very large iceberg that women had to silently endure until only two years ago.
After this I am going to shut up though. I do not want to politcise this forum any further than I already accidentally have.
Though sadly the MeToo Movement doesn’t give two shits about what Joe Biden’s done. Even though they went ballistic over Trump saying “When you’re rich, they let you whatever you want. They let you… grab them by the pussy.“
This is Deus she’s talking about. Simply saying “hello” to him makes you part of a power struggle that you’re probably going to lose. And given that Max is going there to try to get information from him, information that he may be willing to give, but only for a price… This is absolutely a power balance thing.
This isn’t a social event: this is a negotiation. Max needs to get the most information out of him while giving away as little as possible in return. Negotiations are ALL about power dynamics.
But don’t forget that Maxima would be acting like this with any guy, not just Deus
Very true. However, since Deus seems to have a genuine crush for her, dressing and acting to help him go in that state of mind where one tends to think with their genitals would in all likelihood work to her advantage. Or at least, that’s how it would normally work for an attractive woman willing and able to use seduction as a tool.
Max’s issues in all likelihood make it so she wouldn’t know how to use that kind of manipulation effectively if her life depended on it. Therefore, admittedly it’s better if she shows to the event in a way that leaves her confident of her game.
A crush? Nothing so juvenile. Max is Deus’ Everest, the one special woman that hasn’t given in to his charms (and he can count supers, demons, aliens, and even undead on that list). She is his CHALLENGE, and people like Deus can’t step back from a challenge.
Yes, I do. As I am a classic feminist.
There are always power dynamics. Sometimes they’re equitable and balanced, often they are not, but even in a healthy relationship between equals, the relationship can be described in power dynamics terms. Never fool yourself into thinking that a situation doesn’t have a power dynamic; it does, it just may not be one that’s screamingly unhealthy or obvious.
Is this a date? No. Psychological warfare? Perhaps.
Assuming Max is referring to the 80 year old scotch from last time, the amount they each had in their *tumblers* could have been worth over $3000, with the bottle potentially worth upwards of *thirty* thousand.
Damn ‘spensive, is what I’m trying to say.
They call it a ‘snort’ for a reason.
Yeah, didn’t he say the suit he ruined was worth $3000,-? The scotch was probably worth a lot more.
Yabbos is a good word. I hear it every year when I watch Hocus Pocus.
I remember when they were yabos… I even remember when hooters wasn’t a place and the bird referred to wasn’t an owl or even an avian…
In the movie A Clockwork Orange the word Yabos referred to testicles. “Come and get one in the Yabos, if you got any Yabos that is, you eunuch jelly thou.”
Clockwork Orange, that irritates me every time. It didn’t have an A in the original.
Actually, it does: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/reference
The “A” is on the original poster art – it’s the “A” shape above “Clockwork Orange”
No, it does not, I watched it, when in came out.
Much better than a ‘yobbo’
Harley doesn’t just ‘hang out’ with Ivy, they are actually an item, going all the way back to Harley’s first appearance in the BTAS
Are you saying they’re “Gal Pals”? “Good friends”?
They are ‘fuck buddies’
Depends on the comic version. In New Earth, Gotham Sirens, and TAS, they’re just really good friends. Batgirl actually asks Harley about it at one point and Harley pretty much explains they are NOT, and I quote, “Like (crosses fingers together)” by asking if Batgirl and Supergirl are “like that”.
https://pm1.narvii.com/5723/be40cad8da24cc6a5535ca091ab487c713353cd4_hq.jpg
In New 52 and later, they’re in a romantic relationship. In the cartoon, they’re also just really good friends and both are definitely only into the opposite sex (Ivy is totally into Kite Man)
It largely depends on medium (and censorship)
They can’t out and out declare them as gay in a show that children have easy access to (just look at “Avatar: the Legend of Korra”, they had to wait until it ended before the writers could openly admit they were lovers)
You’re using one thing that’s totally unrelated to try to prove something else. Korra has nothing to do with Batman TAS, and even with Korra, the whole ‘Korra and Asami’ relationship is more of a JK Rowling deal, where they don’t actually ever do ANYTHING in the 4 seasons to even imply they were lovers. In fact, quite the opposite, considering the relatinships with guys like Mako who they were involved with (and yes, I know bisexuality could be a thing too, but it’s not something that was ever even hinted at in the actual story).
It’s more of a ‘Dumbledore is gay’ statement by the Korra creators. The show did not ‘end early.’ – if anything, season 4 was one season over what they were planning. Once you have dealt with the spirit that CREATED the avatar cycle, are you really going to normally backslide to the antagonist being just some would be world conqueror metalbender? :)
But I’m off on a tangent. The point is, throughout all of New Earth AND the animated series, Harley and Ivy were most definitely heterosexual, but they were just besties. Sort of like JD and Turk in Scrubs have ‘guy love between two guys’ but were not sexual partners. New 52, however, changed that to turn it into a romantic sexual relationship as well, which then was also used in the arc that came after New 52.
And that’s just fine. It’s a reinterpretation of the relationship which definitely works. But it doesnt mean that they were meant to be that way in the original creation of the characters and were just not shown that way because of ‘censorship.’
The Harley Quinn cartoon, however, seemed to not bother with using that new interpretation of their relationship being sexual – it’s more using a mixture of Harley from TAS and Harley from the Arkhamverse. The cartoon uses Amanda Conner’s outfit design, which was inspired from the Arkhamverse (according to Conner),and whoever draws Harley in the new cartoon used Amanda Conner’s outfit as the main outfit after she ditches the harlequin outfit when she rebels against Mistah J. You can’t tell me that the new cartoon is geared to kids btw, it’s definitely adult humor. So you can’t claim that they are again not in a sexual relationship because of censorship – it’s just going back to the original concept of Harley and Ivy as besties, but not lovers.
Never said A:TLoK ‘ended early’
Never read New Earth (certainly not that New 52 shit), going exclusively from BTAS
You… do know that censorship doesn’t just cover ‘children shows’, right? And never said it was because of children in the first place
Let me ask you this: did you ever see ads for Jim Beam starring Kevin Sorbo during his ‘Hercules’ days?
In case you didn’t click here
Yeah…. New Earth is definitely not anywhere remotely close to New 52. New Earth was GREAT. It started with Crisis on Infinite Earths, and ended with Flashpoint.
It was one of the longest continual revamps of the DC universe, aside from Silver Age (New Earth was 1985 – 2011), during when comic book sales were selling really well. New Earth also had the 80 run arc of Linda Danvers as Supergirl, which was probably the best version of Supergirl with the longest continual coherent storyline ever written for her. :)
Aside from Supergirl volume 4 story arc, New Earth also had some of the best storyline arcs in general, which directly led to Harley Quinn’s creation in the cartoon. Justice League, Justice League Unlimited, Batman TAS and Superman TAS were all heavily influenced by New Earth DC (although the DCAU was a different reality than the New Earth reality).
New 52, on the other hand, was mostly a train wreck except for some Supergirl (I actually rather liked the red lantern arc, although a lot of people probably didn’t) and Batman issues. For the most part, New 52 was pretty bad, and sold horribly. Which is probably why it only lasted a few years, to be replaced with Rebirth, which somehow has done even worse than New 52 (which was itself restarted 10 times in 6 years).
As for the other part of what you wrote, my main point is that Harley and Ivy were not lesbians when created on Batman TAS and in New Earth, not because of censorship, but because they were never actually meant to be lesbians when created. Poison Ivy was, in fact, a femme fatale that flirted exclusively with men as originally conceived, although she wasnt in love with ANY men, period. But she was attracted to men, and on multiple occasions had made men her slaves exclusively (Superman, Swamp Thing, the mayor, etc).
It wasnt until New 52 and after that that DC decided to make Harley bisexual and Ivy a lesbian, mainly because there were so many fanfics about it already (and because even in New Earth, they made jokes about that, specifically to state they were not lovers, just best friends). Which was also fine because it worked as part of their history together (Harley being very obsessive with people who she likes, to the point of becoming very in love with them, and Poison Ivy hating humanity in general, with Harley being the ONE exception to that rule), although the larger storylines still sucked, because most New 52 storylines were really, really, really badly written.
Then in this new Harley Quinn cartoon, they changed things again so now they’re both decidedly heterosexual (like they were in New Earth) but Harley is pretty much ‘done with men because men suck’ (given how she finally woke up to what a crappy person the Joker was) and Ivy is a lot less ‘femme fatale/flirtatious’ and leaned more into her eco-warrior stuff, but seems to be rather monogamous and adorably a couple with Kite Man. Hell Yeah.
They all really work as dynamics for the two of them, but no one was changing anything due to censorship.
Also I think I was 5 or 6 years old when that commercial was on so I probably never saw it. But thanks for showing me the link :)
Max’ hair and the angle of the shot in panel 4 gives me an “Emma Peel” vibe :)
Maybe she should wear a black catsuit? Much arse has been kicked in that ensemble :D
Actually, it does: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0066921/reference
The “A” is on the original poster art – it’s the “A” shape above “Clockwork Orange”Glad i’m not the only one who thought that as soon as i saw it.
Dame Diana will be 82 on 20 July, BTW
Argh. That wasn’t supposed to include the text from my previous post
Like the anime “Kaguya: Love is War,” only Maxima hates him.
Damn, must be really old: can remember Meloni when he was on SVU :(
“Every succubus in school is given a target to seduce.”
Each semester the school has a group project. They film the class for grading purposes. Recently they found they could sell the (Veiled) footage to TV networks who have been broadcasting it as The Bachelor.
In my official Head Canon the school also has a training simulator bedroom like the one seen at the beginning of Monsters Inc.
Depending on how far things go and how detailed the recording is, it might have be sold in the porn market instead.
OMG, that Hiro is certainly dense.. like a neutron star dense.
and Harley Quinn, the cartoon, is really amazing.. I finished the 1st Season, and is really nice. And all the free violence is something else among cartoons.
“I’m not even angry.”
“But, if you’re not Angry… who are you?”
“Did you think my NAME was actually ‘Angry’?”
“…It isn’t?”
Lot’s of yabbos in today’s comic. Big ones in all but one panel.
The Harley Quinn TV show is funny, but for many people who’s actually liked Batman or the character of Harley Quinn specificially, it’s sometimes incredibly annoying since most of the characters do not act remotely like they should. Not only the main characters, but the side and bit characters, like the Justice League, Lex Luthor, Gordon, Batman, Robin, etc. The main person who acts sort of the same is Kite Man. Because Kite Man is awesome. And Kite Man will always be Kite Man.
Hell yeah.
But it’s still a good show to watch, even for people who are fans of Gotham and DC characters, as long as you think of it like ‘DC, if written in the Tick universe’ :) Then everything feels just right :) I think even the artwork is influenced by the Tick. I wouldnt really be surprised if artists from the Tick cartoon were involved because the artwork is very similar to the Tick cartoon’s artwork.
Nah, it’s just DC filtered through Harley-vision :D
Would like to see it, at least two episodes, unfortunately, don’t have payTV (where all the good shows end up, like the Arrowverse shows and Supernatural)
I wouldnt exactly refer to most of the Arrowverse shows as good anymore :) Most have long since jumped the shark.
But seriously, if you do watch Harley Quinn, it does have a VERY strong ‘The Tick’ universe feel to it. Otherwise everything just feels ‘off.’
Last season we had, ended with the Island blowing up, we missed the Nazi Supergirl season, and worse, the Scooby Doo episode of Supernatural :( :( :( :(
The Scooby Doo episode of Supernatural was awesome. Especailly when the Scooby gang starts having an existential crisis about demons and ghosts and other supernatural creatures being real instead of being Old Man willikers trying to scare people off the property so it can be bought cheap by the evil real estate developers.
Btw, do you mean Nazi Supergirl or do you mean Red Daughter Supergirl, because Nazi Supergirl was in only one or two episodes during the crisis on infinite earths crossovers, while Red Daughter supergirl was an entire season.
Probably, like said, never saw that season, not even sure if we saw the Nazi Supergirl episodes (or was that the one where she was taken out before the opening credits during the evil Terri Hatcher season?
Teri Hatcher was in season 2 I think, before the Crisis on Infinite Earths storyline happened which had the heroes fighting nazi versions of themselves, including Ubergirl/nazi Supergirl (I think that was in season 4) and I think Red Daughter (ie, Lex Luthor’s Soviet Supergirl) was season 5 or 6.
Dobonhonkeros.
“Yabbos”
See “Yobba Rays” from the 1962 TV series “Space Patrol”.
I understand they want to push her out of her comfort zones, but is Deus the guy they want her to date? Even if you don’t know about his supervillain side, the philosophy he professes is that greed is everything.
Thats leverage with a capital C.
cleaverage?
Cleaver girl!
I am here for the Yabbos.
I understand Kenya’s frustration here – few things kill romance worse than obsessing over power dynamics. Good romance – heck, good sex – usually requires some sacrifice of power (if only temporarily), some acknowledgement of vulnerability. Two people who are obsessed with power – even if for different reasons – can rarely have a romantic relationship.
Dabbler’s 100% correct. ANY meeting with Deus needs to be seen as a power struggle.
Any pair of a woman, and man.
To those who ridiculously transcribe their personal foibles to everyone else, yes.
Deus: She’s here! Lorlara, have the manager put on some romantic music.
Lorlara:*salutes* It shall be done!
*Lorlara hurries over to the manager’s desk, argues with him, snippets can be heard over the background music*
Manager: … highly irreg… are you sure…
Lorlara: … insolent dog… Lord Deus… commands… punishment… severe….
*Maxima walks into the restaraunt, Deus stands to greet her*
*background music suddenly cuts out, replaced by the Imperial March from Star Wars*
*Deus, startled, glances at Lorlara, who give him a confident thumbs-up*
*Max stops, arches an eyebrow, a wry smile appears on her face*
Deus: …*shrugs* Eh, it works.
We need the ability to upvote, because this man earned mine.
I was expecting some sort of thrash death metal, but that works too.
Has Lorlara learned a language the manager understands yet? I can easily see genius Deus learning the alien language, and alien tongue, in a few weeks, and Vale being, well, Vale, will have no problem with foreign languages either. I am just not sure about Lorlara.
Bah, technicalities! We’ll say she took an evil correspondence course, wore an immersion helmet or something.
OR… maybe the manager is Alaran as well? Nah, he wouldn’t have that snooty offended behavior if he was an alien immigrant from a militaristic society. They’re arguing in English.
SmugD has one of those translators from The Fracture
Apparently so, going by the final two panels of Page 831. Of course, one could very well be “quelled into submission” and even “mewling capitulation” using entirely non-verbal means, but those tend to work best in-person rather than at the range implied.
Nah, as much as I admire Max’s physique, I agree that she should wear her dress uniform. Deus is savvy enough that he would probably expect her to try and manipulate him with revealing clothes, so showing up in full uniform will rebalance him toward thinking that she’s either uncomfortable “showing off” or that she’s there for a fight. Either way, it levels the playing field, if not shifting it slightly in Max’s favor, especially if she tactically flirts and then shuts him down as he responds.
Then again, what the hell do I know, I’m not married or dating. I just don’t like Max feeling pressured to dress up unless she’s comfortable with it, particularly with Deus involved. I think Kenya’s concerns are unwarranted, especially in light of the exchange between Max and Hiro when they were both basically naked. Maxima is a sharp gal, give her the credit that she knows what she’s doing.
Do both. Voxel virtual clothes shifting seamlessly between dress uniform and déshabillé in the split seconds when no one else is looking and Deus isn’t looking directly. Maintain both modesty, formality and maximum distraction.
OK, who’s running the betting pool on when the power supply and/or software controls will ‘fail’?
*bonks his head against keyboard* “They’ve wasted like 8 comics on Max getting ready for a date – shit or get off the pot, guys. I personally don’t like Deus(even a little bit, I just roll my eyes any time I see his stupid x scar), then we’ll have another few pages of Max and him talking. I’d rather chew on tinfoil then witness it. I love this comic but this is like the Sydney forced loved triangle all over again.”
In the Arnold “not a tumah” voice: “It’s not a date!”
I like Deus as a villain, and as a foil to Max… but the effort to instill some kind of romantic tension between them hit the point of diminishing returns about five minutes after it started.
“Wasted”? This is the sort of thing the comic is pretty much intended to be about, as per the author. I’m not quite sure what you’re here for.
Anvil, we have a xillionaire who bought a country and is hinting at having an army of supers that exceeds the numbers of ARC. This makes him ostensibly a potential villain and mastermind. Dating him would be inappropriate and pose a conflict of interest. This is not the time for Maxima to be getting laid or flirting. It’s the time for her to be sussing him out. Let her do what she knows how to do and stop pressuring your CO into disgracing herself.
I feel sorta stupid for just realizing Deus’ “unusual number of supers” excuse is to cover for he’s using a butt ton of off world advanced tech in his border expansion.
And a whole bunch of people with more capability than humans too. Some of them can fly with those thin wings, which have also been shown to slice things like skulls and bridge supports.
On the one hand Maxima and Deus dated in the past. It’s not terribly surprising that they might still be on friendly enough terms to have the occasional dinner together. On the other hand Deus and Archon have a business relationship, he is one of their vendors, his company made Sydney’s rebreather, etc. It’s not terribly surprising for a vendor to have the occasional lunch with the client, except that they have to split the check due to rules about gifts. And on the gripping hand Kenya is trying to talk Maxima into letting down her hair and having some fun for a change, since she is apparently absorbed in her work and doesn’t have much of a social life.
Can’t help but wonder what Deus’s ‘super’ power is…I can’t recall seeing it in use so far.
Unless it’s the ability to talk anyone into anything…that would be the most powerful of all.
You don’t need to be all-powerful yourself, just be able to command loyalty from those who are.
That’s one of those ‘nuke it from orbit’ terrifying powers. See ‘Fabian Everyman’ from The Laundry Files. Of course those books are full of ‘nuke it from orbit’ powers.
It’s money.
I sentence you to reread the series.
I believe, he has a Genie or Djinn on his payroll and wished for absolute and unbeatable perfection in all disciplines and measures.
Long time reader and lurker, first post.
Those “yabbos” are Weapons of Mass Distraction, but it’s not the style of Maxima to use them like that …
They certainly point the way and do look kinda sharp, but they’re definitely blunt weapons
Which is what many of the more predatory women use them as ;)
I’ll add “death by blunt-armed predatory women” to the list of fetishes I didn’t knew I had …
Not everyone enjoys being treated like meat to be drooled over. And no, that doesn’t make them a “prude” or “repressed” or “socially conditioned to ignore their true nature”. Maxima is entirely within her rights to make those choices, just as someone else is within their rights to enjoy being drooled over.
As for power dynamics, any romantic or intimate relationship or encounter that begins with a “power struggle” is fundamentally broken to begin with.
THANK YOU.
Absolutely true. Of course Max is also within her rights to tell anyone drooling to sod off. Has done so, with that elf fellow. There are people what drool regardless.
Max is entirely within her bounds when she makes these choices for herself, but oversteps them when she goes all judgemental and preachy on everyone else who does not align with her ideology. Her inability to keep her cool when something challenges her anti-sex radical feminism seems the closest thing to her kryptonite we have seen so far.
E.g. the only truly outlandish thing we have seen her doing in this sequence is her ridicolous assumption that showing a little cleavage would significantly change the power dynamic in a confrontation with a perhaps very smart and manipulative, but otherwise apparently normal guy. She is an invulnerable powerhouse that can destroy a starship in a heartbeat. Regardless of whether she likes to do it or not, she could show up naked, covered in filth, or in the most ridiculous clown outfit ever, the factual power dynamic would not really budge. Persons of Mass Destruction define what power means for everyone else not at their level. Her inability to stay focused the moment someone waves anything sexualized or anti-feminist in her face is a serious weakness of hers.
E.g. what she is going to do the next time she gets naked during a battle? Lose her mind? Get paralyzed by shame? She gave Math some sound advice to go and try to tone down his crippling oversensitivity to everything sexual. She would probably be well served to apply the same kind of advice to herself.
Or for that matter, sooner or later a clever enemy may well exploit this weakness of hers for something more serious than getting prank photos.
Most power dynamics in the real world exist almost entirely within people’s heads. You’re as powerful as other people believe you to be, and as weak as you believe yourself to be. The physical ability to overpower someone is meaningless if they can control your thoughts, feelings, or actions through psychological manipulation.
Thank you for explaining it better than me: was going to say how Power Dynamics rarely has anything to do with actual power (like the person who mentioned “The Boys” and how a physically weaker male forced a stronger female to blow him because she thought he was higher up the dildo-pole, really hope she turned him into fish-fingers when she found out, or at least fileted his flipper)
Max’s yabbos? Heh heh heh. *insert Cap’s “I got that reference” gif here*
…I feel old now.
I actually really adore the Harley Quinn show, though it probably helps that I don’t have a huge history with the characters, so I don’t get overly precious about them acting in absurd and exaggerated ways. I’ve seen a ton a really negative stuff from “REAL FANS.”
Don’t worry. I have history with the characters and still enjoy the show. It is written from Harly’s point of view (very much not from Harlene’s point of view), which is why most of the characters are off base. It shows well whom she respects and what she thinks about them.