Grrl Power #824 – Fist of the Sigma Octantis
Okay, a domino mask could protect someone’s identity, but not that centimeter wide “strip of tape” style. I see comics with characters wearing stuff like that, and I think it’s almost as bad as Superman’s disguise.
It can’t be any surprise to Sydney that she’s the featherest-weight puncher on the team.
I’m not sure how the same machine could register Sydney’s love tap but also not vaporize when Maxima punched it. I’m sure there are machines that can register incredible impacts, like stuff used for measuring car crashes, but Maxima can far exceed even that. Maybe a machine that measured impacts by volume of liquid displacement, but it’d have to be a lot more liquid than that little machine in the corner of the gym could have in it.
BTW I know Mantis Shrimps are known for their crazy punching, but they’re like six inches long, so that’s why they register down at the bottom. Maybe I should have used “Puppy” instead.
Instead of animals, my original chart listed sports like Karate, Boxer, but also had specific people on it like “Drago” and “Vegeta” and it seemed like a weird mix. An all fictional character one would have been amusing, but I wasn’t sure what to put down on the lower tiers. There aren’t a lot of characters famous for being weak punchers, though maybe “Aunt May” could have worked, but then who? Pillowhands McGee, who I just made up? I’m not sure if Kenshiro would slot in above a DBZ character or below. In terms of actual joules or footpounds, I guess he’s come in a lot lower than them, but arguably his punches are a jillion times more deadly.
God, if I was a woman named Jillian, my friends would be SO SICK of hearing me say “I’m a Jillian times (adverb/adjective)-er than you.”
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If this comic ever crossed over with the comic Sluggy Freelance, Bunny would get moved way up on that list. Probably not up to Maxima, but around the Dragon or Demon level.
Even without BunBun, if it’s not strictly punches (which rabbits don’t really have the musculature for), a rabbit’s kick is pretty impressive.
Rabbit bites are also not nice
i thought BunBun used a knife….
Bun Bun is in a class aaaaall by himself.
well BunBun is a god so there is some different there.
I have not read that comic in probably 15 years. Did MEET the guy who made it though,can’t find my autographed copies of the first few books. :(
long short, Bun Bun is as so many fans had speculated, immortal, the lop bunny isn’t his original form (original form still not revealed yet), he gave himself amnesia by kicking his own butt (time paradox), and his real name is Sluggy the god of power. Which isn’t really important and Bun Bun himself doesn’t care. But now would be a time to go and catch up…on 15 years of backlog on a comic that until a year ago was daily (yeah he stopped the daily thing, now its like two a week).
Council Wars novels…Bun-Bun ends up being a weapon of mass destruction…loved that bunneh!
The point of the Superman disguise, as I understand it, is that it’s NOT a disguise. Superman wears no mask, just a highly distinctive suit. There isn’t any compelling reason to suspect he HAS a secret identity. “Who’s Batman under the mask?” is a reasonable question. “Who’s Superman when he’s not being Superman?” is much less so – we do not wonder who DaveB is in his secret identity, right? Most people that walk around without masks don’t have them. There isn’t any real reason for Joe Public to suspect Superman has a secret identity.
Now, if you’re talking about Lois and Perry and Jimmy wondering why Clark is always mysteriously absent when Superman appears, and that Clark has a very similar build and face… that’s a different story. But your average supervillain deciding to hire PIs to figure out secret identities of superheroes is not going to have any reason to suppose that Supes isn’t Supes 24×7.
If we’re going back to gold and silver age stuff, the answer to that was “Lois in particular was IMMEDIATELY suspicious, and Clark was constantly having to trick her or otherwise avoid being proven as actually being Superman.”
Personally, I’d love to see a Superman movie where Lois keeps providing convenient excuses for Clark to rush off, until he begins to get suspicious and ultimately learns that she figured it out about five minutes after Clark got hired to the Daily Planet and provided an exclusive one-on-one interview with Superman.
“So why didn’t you say anything?”
“Well… at first, I thought it was some kind of undercover investigation thing, and I didn’t want to risk blowing your cover. Until I realized this really was the real you.”
“Oh. So… does anyone else know?”
“Perry does. I think Jimmy figured it out too.”
“And… none of you said anything?”
“You’re our friend, Clark. And you help so many people, of course we’ll do whatever we can to help you!”
There use to be a Superman audio drama which had Perry say practically the same thing.
The original radio broadcasts available from otrcat.com?
https://www.otrcat.com/p/superman
RE: Secret identity:
I thought that whatever made Superman’s powers work in his universe had the side effect of changing how human facial recognition worked.
Or the person who came up with the idea for Clark Kent to just wear a pair of glasses had Prosopagnosia, which was a condition no one knew about at the time, and so he wasn’t aware that Clark and Superman being the same person would be readily obvious to most people.
I would certainly read a fanfic written with those things happening… *wink*
That was pretty much what happened in a recent “Ms. Marvel.” Kamala Khan has much of the same problem, with a pretty thin mask that doesn’t really hide much. In a recent issue, she took the big step and decided to reveal her secret to her friends. “I’ve got something to tell. I’m Ms. Marvel.” Crickets. Then: “Well, duh. Did you think that we hadn’t figured that out months ago?”
Better than Squirrel Girl who literally stuffed her squirrel tail into her pants, which gave her a giant butt look, and her costume was just some tights and took to wearing little squirrel ears on her head. Everyone just sort of went with it.
the secret identity thing Is weird, like the X-men, like only a quarter of them wear masks, and even among those that do, half of those do it for no reason and don’t hide who they are otherwise. Wolverine has literally put his mask on in a bar surrounded by other people; treating it more like a uniform so people know he’s come to help.
In a way, that’s what most Superhero costumes are about. It’s not so much about concealing the identity, except in a few cases; it’s more about making it obvious whether they’re on or off duty, acting in an official or a personal capacity. Those who don’t maintain a fully secret identity still have the right to a private identity, to borrow the phrasing from Marion Harmon’s Wearing the Cape series
There’s an old SNL skit where Superman’s disguise is blown. So he moves to Mexico, where his disguise is once again blown in rapid order.
Clark Kent doesn’t wear a disguise and becomes Superman, Kal El dons a disguise and becomes Clark Kent
Freakin’ eh right!! :D
I love how they have explained that “Clark Kent, Daily Planet Reporter” is how the Godly Superman Kal-El sees humans: Bumbling, lacking confidence, and just trying their best. It’s important to note that this is nearly a 180 from the way his “Superman persona” is. That’s why the “disguise” works so well.
Not to mention if it’s an iteration where he does physical acting and changes his posture like Christopher Reeve did when playing the role.
Kal El was raised as Clark Kent. Even in versions where he manifested powers as a baby (Silver Age) or gradually as he grew up (Bronze Age, Smallville TV series, DCEU), he was raised by human parents. In the DCEU, he doesn’t find out he’s an alien until he’s in at least his 20s, Smallville and Bronze Age comics he’s a high school freshman. Silver Age, he finds out early in his career as Superboy, but his human adoptive mother designs his Superboy (and later Superman) outfit, using materials from the spaceship (basically, the cape is his swaddling blanket, and the main part of his suit is his onesie . . . the material is highly advanced, and stretches and adapts quite easily). His early and main influences are small town, middle American, human.
Clark Kent spends his formative years being Clark Kent. The knowledge of his birth parents, world, and name come much later. I’m not sure where “they have explained” that Clark Kent is Kal El’s idea of what humans are like. He grew up with humans, spent part of that time thinking he was human (human with powers, okay, not unheard of in that world in most continuities).
It’s more like Kal El/Superman is Clark Kent’s idea of what a more powerful being should be to humans: a source of hope and a protector. The DCEU did that pretty well with Jor El saying that the symbol of the House of El means hope.
By the way, they’ve explained that in the comics, too: The winding line that happens to look like an S descends from a pictogram for “river”. If you live on a large planet with relatively little lakes or oceans, what does hope look like? It looks like a source of water — like a river.
No, Kal El simply… is Superman, that is literally who he is, when he is being ‘Superman’, he is being himself, who the Kent’s raised him to be
He doesn’t view humans as bumbling, lacking in confidence and ‘just trying their best’, because he has spent his entire life amongst them, he chose that personality (mild mannered in all things) to be as far from his normal self as possible to protect those he cares about, and also to allow himself ‘free time’, he learnt early on that if he didn’t ‘cut himself off’ occasionally he would burn out and be no good to anyone
Maybe someone with comics from the (mid-)70’s can check, but I can distincly remember a comic where the CK persona was “explained”. And the glasses were a major part of it.
It’s stuck with me all this decades because even as a kid I couldn’t get why people, especially Lois, simply didn’t *notice* that Clark Kent and Superman were the same person. By build alone..
The arc had something to do with Supe wondering about it himself ( and something -something Lois views of him), and being forced to read people’s minds while under his CK persona because of Baddies, including Lois.
Turns out she sees him as a early middle age grey office mouse. Other people see him differently, but along the same lines.
Turns out in that scene that the glasses are crucial for that, in that they enable him to project a sort of mental distortion field around him through his x-ray vision turned up low that makes people see him as he wants, according to their own expectations.
It’s explained as a subconscious thing, so that as long as he puts on the glasses, people can’t help *but* seeing Clark Kent, even if he were to be in his Supe costume, people’d just think he was dressing up for Halloween or something.
Now knowing this, he then uses this power actively to soundly defeat the Baddies, etc.
May have been a plot device in that arc, but it’s one of the more “logical” explanations I’ve seen in that mythos.
I remember that very well. I was born in 1951, during the Korean War.
Yeah, can vaguely remember something about his glasses projection some sort of ‘distortion wave’, it being a subconscious creation via his x-ray vision makes sense (or, if not his x-ray specifically, one of his other visions)
And then promptly forgot that whole thing in the next writer switch, right?
I disagree wholeheartedly with this. “Lois, Superman is what I can do, Clark is who I am” is the core of the character to me.
That’s fine, for me, it’s “Superman is who I am, Clark is who I could have been”
I prefer Bill from Kill Bill’s take on it.
“Superman didn’t become Superman. Superman was born Superman. When Superman wakes up in the morning, he’s Superman. His alter ego is Clark Kent. His outfit with the big red “S”, that’s the blanket he was wrapped in as a baby when the Kents found him. Those are his clothes. What Kent wears – the glasses, the business suit – that’s the costume. That’s the costume Superman wears to blend in with us. Clark Kent is how Superman views us. And what are the characteristics of Clark Kent. He’s weak… he’s unsure of himself… he’s a coward. Clark Kent is Superman’s critique on the whole human race.”
Agree with all of that… except for Kal viewing humans as weak and cowardly, because he knows hy-mons are neither
*nods* Kill Bill.
? Don’t get that reference…
Check my post response to you. It explains what Xuncu is saying. :)
She must be made of something really weak, like papier mache or Radditz.
At least you’ve proven that your Radditz is stronger than our Radditz.
Hey, come on now.
Kurillin would still rank below Radditz.
How dare you sir.
Krillin landed Android 18.
Who did Radditz ever get with? Hmmm?
No one, that’s who. Therefore Krillin is better than Radditz.
PS – I’ll probably be on more now since I’m currently quarantined in lockdown in New York City and apparently intellectual property law is not an essential service :). So these comment boards are going to keep me sane.
I’m doomed. :)
Honestly surprised Mantis Shrimp isn’t above Tiger. It’s literally the fastest punch of any living thing in the real world.
They punch things with literally the force of a bullet – 1500 newtons in 3 ms. It’s so fast that if they miss their target the target usually still dies due to the shockwave AROUND the punch, which is – by MILES – the most anime animal fact I’ve learned in my whole life.
If a superhero had the “proportional punch of a mantis shrimp” the way Peter Parker has the “proportional strength of a spider” they’d be named Saitama. Or at the very least they’d have no trouble punching a hole straight through bulletproof glass.
(Sorry to harp on it when you already know. Mantis shrimp are just such cool li’l buggers! Their punch is so fast it makes SPARKS! Under WATER!)
A normal wolf-bite apparently has a force of 400 lbs, which translates to roughly 1800 Newtons. So a wolf is slightly stronger than the mantis shrimp, albeit not in terms of strength:mass ratio.
I think your calculations are a bit off there. The average bite force of a gray wolf is only 493.5 Newtons. The mantis shrimp’s 1500 Newton punch (which hits with the same force as a .22 caliber bullet) easily exceeds that, and even that of most bears. The only land animals whose bite force exceeds that of the mantis shrimp punch are the polar bear at 1646.7 Newtons and the Hippopotamus at a whopping 8,100 Newtons. Mantis shrimp should definitely be higher up there.
To add to what Karishi said, the mantis shrimp’s punch is so fast and powerful that it causes a cavitation bubble so intense that it creates light and for a split second generates temperatures around 4,400 Celsius (nearly as hot as the sun) in the surrounding water. The collapse of this bubble causes an intense shockwave which can stun, dismember, or even kill the target even if the strike itself misses. When mantis shrimp are kept in aquariums, they often have to be enclosed in bullet-proof glass to ensure they don’t smash the glass.
I’m having a hard time not taking this personally guys. I definitely hit harder than a mustang (unless you meant “car” & not “horse”, Dave), and I’ve never met a shrimp that I didn’t literally devour. I might not be able to take a dragon, but I’m pretty sure that I could give a demon a decent fight.
EDIT: Read “demon” as “tiger”.
Ambush predator vs persistence hunter omnivore.
Unless you got the upper hand in preperation, and have tracking skills: sorry mate.
Ummmm.
Wolf (V. large) up to 80Kg
Tiger (avg.) around 400Kg
How did you say you’d take out the tiger again?
A bit more perspective. I’ll accept that a hippo has 8,100N of bite force — and truly, youse don’t want to mess with these buggers, they’re nasty. On the Other Hand but, your humble salt-water “Salty” croc musters 16,460N…
Bite force is wonderful. If you can get the object-to-be-bitten IN the mouth… Which is why Nile crocodiles make a point of trying to not upset their nearest neighbours, which CAN get crocs into their mouths. It’s the “bird in the hand” thing, you know?
I seem to remember her badly abusing a would-be mugger; clearly she has some unarmed talent. “Oh, the humanity”.
Talent, yes. Strength… She’s about as strong as an under-cooked spinach leaf. Most of Syd’s victories have been 5 parts smartness and 5 parts adrenaline.
And 10 parts chemical weapon attack
Never forget the
canimouthfeel of pure capsaicin!You realise that Sydney’s gonna track you down and pummel you with her baby-punches now…
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/comic/grrl-power-336-mouth-feel-my-wrath/
Yamcha would have to be the bottom of the all fictional characters list.
Toss-up between Yamcha and Krillin?
Yamcha may not be as strong as even Krillin, at least he has only had one death :P
I’m… inclined to disagree… Yamcha isn’t as weak as people make him out to be… By the end of Dragonball Z, he’s actually one of the strongest humans on the planet. Sure, he doesn’t hold a candle to even Krillin, but… he could easily win in a fight against Mr Satan and his daughter Videl.
During the Trunks Saga, Yamcha’s power level was actually between 12k to 33k, which is to say it was OVER NINE-THOUSAAAAAAND!
Even during the Saiyan Saga he wasn’t really all that weak. In fact, the whole point to him dying was to demonstrate the strength and evil the Saiyans were bringing to Earth. During that saga, Yamcha’s power level was around 1500 according to Daizenshuu 7. At that time, Gohan prior to Masenko was 980, Chiaotzu was 610, Yajirobe was 970, Tien was 1830, and Krillin was 1770.
While it’s true he couldn’t keep up with the Saiyans once the genie had been let out of THAT bottle, he was still too much for normal, Earthly training equipment, easily destroying standard gym equipment for strength training.
Let’s not forget that he was able to stay standing after being punched by Kid Buu and he patted Beerus on the back, causing Beerus to stumble…
So yeah he’s not the strongest fighter in DBZ, but he’s by far not the weakest.
Side fact… Mr Satan doesn’t have to be the pathetic weakling that he is. Turns out that if he applied himself and learned to control his chi, he’d actually be one of the strongest human fighters. However he has a significant mental hangup regarding chi after his mentor was killed by someone using chi. In fact, he won the tournaments he won fair and square… at least up to the Cell Games, which portrayed him as being a bit more illegitimate than he is really supposed to be.
As far as non-chi using fighters go, Mr Satan is by far the strongest, easily breaking 13 slabs with his bare hands where the next strongest can’t even manage it with his elbow.
That said, since Mr Satan refuses to even learn how to use chi, Yamcha could easily take him down. It’s not even really a contest. If Yamcha were to pat him on the back as hard as he patted Beerus on the back, Mr Satan would explode.
But again, I’m not trying to say Yamcha is on par with the other Z Fighters. I’m saying he isn’t the weakest character in fiction, anime, or even Dragonball. He’s just the weakest Z Fighter if you don’t count Chiaotzu as a Z Fighter.
Personally, I adore Krillin. Yes, he’s weaker than the Saiyans… he’s also the strongest pure human of them all. AND he shows up to all the fights, despite being the weakest… that means he knows he’s risking dying (again), and yet he still shows up to do what he can. So he’s also among the bravest of them.
It’s a pity that “DBZ Abridged” has ended. I’d have loved to have seen Bulma attempting to mock 18 for “settling” for the supposed wimp, only for 18 to set her straight. “MY husband is a romantic who worships the ground I walk on. MY husband risked the entire planet and took on Cell just to save me, before we even got married. And MY husband is always around to keep me company. MY husband… is my husband; did you and Vegeta ever get married? Or is he still just your baby daddy?”
So… there is nothing keeping Vegetable head around, except… wanting to stay?
Krillin is only around because 18 locked him into a contract? o_O
Is Tenshinhan a JOKE to you?!
He’s a pure human and definitely stronger than Krillin. Krillin is just smarter and sexier, as evidenced by his marrying 18.
Wait, which one is he? The dude with a third eye (pure human? o_O) or the flying doll?
Tenshinhan is the three eyes guy. Krillin is the guy without a nose and the dots on the forehead.
Knew who Krillin is, which one is the flying doll?
Just find it humourous that you claim someone with a third eye is ‘purely human’. How many ‘pure hyu-mons’ do you know of that have a third eye on their forehead? o_O
Probably talking about Chiaotzu.
Neither was ever explained; and no one really pays that close attention. They are Dragon Ball originating not Z; so they were from the time when furres, dragon men, dino people, magic, and so on were common place and never questioned. So three eyes, tiny china-doll looking person, no questions, no need to explain.
Z started the sci-fi stuff as a major focus, so any new characters got explanations for what they were and how they had powers; when before it was; who cares and because training. (Honestly one of the reasons I hate Hercule/Mr. Satan so much as he represents what I hated about Z (loved everything else), but the fact people in the cities seemed to not even know that magic, demons, and monsters were everywhere out in the country and past tournaments treated energy moves as special famous among martial artist techniques; rather than not believing they were possible like Z had it portrayed.
Chiaotzu sounds about right
Yamcha can blow up a planet.
Seriously. By the end of the series he may be a “joke” to most the fighters by power levels in that series are bull; after training with King Kai.
So yeah, Yamcha is a planet buster, low end planet buster but still a planet buster.
-but again this is Dragon Ball where even the concept of universe stability has been a factor where the Universe 7 reality is fragile compared to the Kai world and higher level universes. So energy needed to blow up planet in their universe could be equivalent to just a volcano erupting in another.
But again Dragon Ball is a “don’t think too hard about it” franchise.
But does he have the coolness of Tien?
https://youtu.be/wzpxTLqUStI
prior to the popularity of making him a scrub he was more popular than Tien back during Dragon Ball, being Goku’s first rival, Bulma’s first love interest, and a powerful contender up until the final season. The Saibaman thing was supposed to illustrate how dangerous the threat was by taking out one of the strongest fighters in the series up to that point…but as Dragon Ball was mostly forgotten sadly…well…
Tien wasn’t as lampooned because he stayed a serious character and because he was detached enough from the rest of the stories and characters to get put back in the toy box until a big event happened so he didn’t suffer as much as Yamcha who was brushed aside for Vegeta’s growing popularity.
I will add that is purely academic, I actually like Vegeta better. However I always found Tien a rather bland character who was ultimately under developed and is just (that sort of tough guy not really in our friend group but doesn’t hate us so we call him up when the world’s about to end to act as a meat shield and thin out some of the weaker enemies and wear down/keep the bad guy busy while the main characters train, or pull something out of their butts).
Actually, you can build a machine like that. You need to gear it for logarithmic resistance – the first increment is easy, and then they get progressively stiffer. It’s how the human ear works; moving the eardrum twice as far takes 10 times the actual sonic force, etc.
I just realized that, according to the machine, Sydney’s impact is just a little short of the strongest rabbit…Would that mean Sydney is in the same league as the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabbit_of_Caerbannog
Dude clearly you’ve never been “punched” by a bunny. That shit hurts WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY worse than a kitten
Aunt May of E-1610 in “Spider-Verse” both clocked and hit Tombstone with a baseball bat, knocking him clear off of her front porch. Considering Tombstone is bulletproof and fairly strong, that’s no mean feat. Granted, May-616 is indubitably frailer.
Strength is nothing in that case.
The strongest person on the planet can be knocked over easily by a child if the action that causes the fall is unexpected, or the target is not prepared. Balance and bracing are what matter if you’re trying to block…even then, there are more factors involved.
As can be seen in Martial arts.
common mistake in comics, movies, and anime.
forgetting the ground surface material has its own separate resistance. You may be utterly invulnerable but dirt is dirt and if you weigh like 200 pounds or less, and don’t have some forward thrust momentum power (apply forward levitation in equal force or force displacement when it hits) then being hit by that car is still going to send you sliding back no matter how strong you are.
It actually makes more sense to have Jabbs be Sydney’s boxing coach rather than Math (if Sydney will ever let her arrogant ego allow herself to be taught by her)
Nice buttocks-shot in panel two, your training is paying off ;)
Sydney should stick to Judo-tongue throwing people if things get physical!
I wonder where Sydney/Halo (and the rest of the Grrl Power Cast?) would place with her powers in this chart.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PowerLevels?from=Main.PowerLevel
That pic there is from the Manga/Anime Negima
You do know that only worked because she was tossing Morph, right? It’s not normal to be able to grab another persons tongue like that, certainly not enough to throw them by it
You know, in the 1980s Storm (from the X-Men) went through a period where she was depowered and forced to fight as a “badass normal.” She remained team leader of the X-Men, and she even picked up a host of new techniques and skills. Finally she got her powers back (thanks to her lover Forge, who was also inadvertently responsible for her losing her powers in the first place), and Forge explicitly warned her not to forget the lessons she’d learned when she was lacking her powers.
Meanwhile, her predecessor (Cyclops) has been known to beat up people with his fists instead of his optic beams… while keeping his eyes closed. Because he was missing his visor and needed to box them while blind to avoid killing them or destroying buildings.
Cyclops has tactical training in the Danger Room from a relatively young age, an aspect of his mutation gives intuitive spacial/geometric genius (that is, he can figure angles and trajectories on a subconscious level – if there was a possible angle and force to hit a cue ball that would allow him to sink every ball on the pool table in one shot, he could do it without thinking about it, assuming his muscle control and hand-eye coordination were up to the task). There’s a comic scene set in the Savage Land (artificial ancient nature preserve hidden in Antarctica that has dinosaurs — comics are weird, folks) where a telepath is sharing what Cyclops is thinking while he’s watching two Triceratops bulls sparring: he’s figuring attack angles and impact forces, predicting which one is likely to come out on top in the struggle, and simultaneously figuring out how he could disable both of them without causing permanent injury, should they turn and attack him. That’s just basically how he approaches everything: what’s the conflict, what’s the likely outcome, who do I need to protect, and how do I accomplish that. I’m not sure if he’s genetically capable of unclenching his sphincter, basically.
Storm was a street thief in Cairo before her powers manifested — she’s not skill-free before she loses her powers. I supposed training in un-powered combat should have been included long before her situation, though, considering power-inhibiting effects weren’t exactly unheard-of in the Marvel universe.
I’m pretty sure all the classic x-men have hand to hand combat training without their powers; largely from wolverine.
For example, Storm’s duel with Calisto which happened before she lost her powers.
Storm’s not the best- that would be either wolverine or shadowcat- but she can certainly hold her own, especially in a knife fight.
Nice to see Jabbs has finally gotten an official choker with her colours and code-letters
I honestly think they are trying to teach Sydney the wrong style of martial arts. Rather then try and teach her something with striking and stopping power like say Karate, Or Kung-Fu, They should focus on something that uses their opponents strength against them Like Judo, or Ju-Jitsu. Both are more grappling arts, and I’ve seen a person take down someone 3 times their size with the proper technique. but I am far form an expert, so make of my opinion what you will. Lol
DaveB it can also be that they use “different” equipment to test Maxima(read olympic swimming pool of clay) and that they just sticked the readings of Maxima’s results to the weaker measurement device.
Another way they could work was always using the same machine, but giving it settings.
Example:
Olympic swimming pool filled with stuff and surrounded by measuring devices and armored wall settings:
Maxima: filled with clay and evenly dispersed magnetic balls and a lot of evenly spread metal detectors at the side ,
“normal”: filled with water and laser movement detectors too detect smaller movement.
This is ofcourse a very rough solution and maybe only works to identify to which category you belong and not a way to compare for example Stallward and Hiro, but more than effective enough to measure Maxima punches
Is the One Punch Man reference purpose? It feels accidental because nobody is talking about it.
Have you ever seen the science behind a Mantis Shrimp? They deserve to be way higher on the list. Those tiny things can crack pressure proofed glass.
Think about that. A human can’t do that in open air without using a tool and these little monsters accomplish this UNDERWATER!
Seriously YouTube this.
So who are the other arrows? We know which one is Sydney and which one is Maxima, but who are the other arrows specifically?
Why can the machine register a hit from Maxima and still be in one piece? Easy. She held back!
How does it work? A layered sandwich of plates of increasing thickness with a compressible medium and pressure sensors between them. Only the first plate or two will compress under normal human strength, but since each plate is backed by the plate behind it, force is distributed and even Maxima’s best punch won’t deform them.
Okay, maybe her punches might deform the surface plate or the first few in the sandwich if she gives it a real workout, and it looks like the whole machine’s anchoring is developing cracks . . . Archon engineers have probably rebuilt the whole thing at least once.
I find it ironic that the demon Dabbler, well, isn’t.
“Demon” is a wide category. There’s succubi, imps…and then there’s pit fiends and archdemons. The label here is probably for the strongest demons.
the problem with using Vegeta or Goku or any of the DBZ Saiyan is their numbers increase with every death/near death event, so there’s NO actual scale for them that would remain accurate.
and then it all gets thrown completely out the window by the newer concept of different universes having different stabilities. Why the tournament of power arena was surviving (mostly) blasts that in Universe 7 would be shattering entire worlds.
Just say Grrlpower universe is 10,000 times more stable than the DBZ Universe 7 and suddenly Evolved Blue Ultra Instinct Level 4 delux model or whatever is Maxima’s level. and take Maxima to their universe and she’s having to walk on egg shells because every other low end shot is blowing up continents.
I think the mantis shrimp should at least be above wolf.
Or on a plate with some tartare sauce.
Wolf tartare, better than shrimp with tartar sauce.
If we are going to move the shrimp further up the board due to body-proportional differential, then we need to put the ant even higher if it ever learns how to transfer its lifting strength into a punch
Well, she’s moved up with all the Basic workouts. Her first in comic punches were ‘butterfly farts’. Now she’s up to ‘bunny’!
Mantis Shrimp Punch!
List of fictional characters:
Rozalin [disgaea series]
Maxima [grrl power]
Goku[dbz]
Doom guy [doom]
Ryu/akuma [street fighter]
Gutsman [megaman]
Mario [mario]
Sonic [sonic…]
Little mac [punch out]
Glass joe [punch out]
All from standing position. I figure that would be the order. If anyone has anyone to add feel free.
Can Sidney use her flight ball to enhance the effect of gravity on her and all that she in contact with(Reverse Superman)? Not much, like a 1/20 change. That should be a minor inconvenience, but over time..
Then you have the Life support,
Same, but increase air pressure.
Or lower it.
And remove 1% of the Oxygen, and a less boost to CO2.
She will look very weak for everyone, and they will.. Not notice.
Give her a month like this.
Two..
Sorry, not buying the low score – this is a person who gripped a dude by his tongue and shoulder-flipped him, amongst myriad other assorted atrocities.
You seem to forget who she flipped
Do this little experiment for me: grab your tongue, not just the tip with your fingers, your entire tongue in your entire fist
Noe Sydney, should try it with one of her orbs, as a punching device.
I meant, now!
Hey Now! Sometimes Bunnies can be vicious! And Wild!
Just because he caught me off guard….
You know what? Never mind.
Mantis Shrimp are way, WAY stronger then everything yp to and including tigers. THEY HAVE BULLET-SPEED FISTS. Not kidding.
And yet, they only cause bruising on a human…
Ah, but that’s because they are tiny.
But if Peter Parker had been bitten by a radioactive mantis shrimp…
Except, he wasn’t, and if we are going by proportional size, then a fucking ant should be up there as well
Who is weaker? The name “Lois Lane” is, of course, a street near here, next to the comic store.. No, that is not a coincidence.
Wait, so no one is a Demon? weird…
It’s two roads past Margo Lane, just past Reinhardt Lane.
I remember when Lois Lane was the new street with the trendy shops.
This isn’t related to the comic but I think it’s important enough to be brought to attention.
“Attorney General William Barr… has asked for the ability to arrest and imprison people without trial.”
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/
Meh. Upon further reading from several sources it appears to be a limited suspension of habeas corpus to apply only to people who have tested positive for the current pandemic who break quarantine, and it would only last until the outbreak is under control.
So far the Senate has indicated that it is disinclined to grant the request so unless things get significantly worse I don’t expect it to happen.
sounds like the want to open the asylums used in the past to house, contain, and wait for them to die, patients. Who were often mistreated, experimented on, neglected, ect…seriously its like the investigation spot of every other haunting investigation show is one of these places. They got some really nasty reputations. People held against their wills, and then left in conditions guaranteed to worsen their conditions.
People can say times have changed but, without going into a long political rant; I don’t see it.
There is no “they” there is one guy and Congress did not agree.
What further reading? “any natural disaster, civil disobedience, or other emergency situation.” sounds like a blank check, not something that applies to only the current pandemic.
So what will be next?
The two jerks from another agency?
Halo begins to train in combat first aid?
Update on Sciona?
The news from Deus industries?
More grakz and Sydney begins to belch plasma?
Or…suddenly Marble Maiden?
I have no idea if you did this intentionally or not, but Sydney’s punch is drawn in such a way that it looks like a typical teenager that THINKS they can throw a punch but have no idea about the actual technique. No wonder it qualifies as ‘bunny’. With the wrong technique, I would probably punch like a bunny too and I have enough natural strength to throw Sydney at the plate, if with some difficulty.
agreed – she is bending forwards, and she punches in an arc… i bet most of the force is actually going sideways of the punchingbag rather than into it (nevermind the amount of energy being wasted just making the fist arc back forward after going out)
but at least she keeps her thumb outside of her fist^^
It is</I< intentional, because Sydney doesn't even know how to punch like a girl (which is an insult because Sydney is a girl and should at least know how to punch like one)