Grrl Power #799 – Inversion scarapy
This page features an all cameo cast. Reader/superpatron Nathalie Hafner had a demon hunter named Aranea, so I thought that would intersect nicely with YukiAkuma’s demon. :)
To be fair to Tamatha here, waking up with your hair doing crazy things is totally something that might happen to a succubus. Puberty is a pretty wild time for them. Imagine being in her position, with no guidance, the day her glamor starts working. Like she’s walking around school doing the Beholder Glamor, where everyone sees what they most desire without her realizing it. But since it’s like the beginner’s version, she just gets a dozen different comments about “Oh, when did you dye/bleach/grow out/cut your hair?” and she’s all, “What is happening?”
Or she starts doing the “generic hot girl” glamor, and no one recognizes her, but she still gets invited to join the cheerleader squad. And she’s like, “Uh, okay, but I don’t know how to dance.” only to find out she’s naturally super good at it.
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Apparently Demon Hunter lady didn’t catch the Archon news conference where Maxima made it very clear that vigilanties will not be tolerated.
but she isnt a vigilante she is a demon hunter … *totally different*
It’s gonna be hysterical when they make this demon hunter register as a child sex offender. I mean, she just tied up a teenager and it’s looking pretty damned fetish-y right now.
Note that it isn’t ACTUALLY fetish-y, of course. There’s nothing particularly salacious about this. But try telling that to the cops.
“I wasn’t *molesting* her, officer, I was *feeding* her…”
Yep, I can see how it would be hard to explain :)
She’s also a demon(ish) thing herself with 6 arms.
If she’s demon hunting without government sanction, she’s a vigilante. The two are not mutually exclusive.
She could will be a foreign agent United States has the doctrine that Nations that we do not share a agreement with for extradition are not off limits for forcible extraction.
Alright, she’s a *racist* vigilante.
I think that you meant “speciesist”
Maybe she’s a… licensed demon-hunter?
I mean, it’s a SECRET license – the governments of the world can’t OFFICIALLY acknowledge that demons and the like exist, much less that a secret Council rules over them – but it’s still official, if super-secret ultra-classified.
Or, maybe she’s a member of Semper Vigilantis? A demon-hunter-cop, so to speak.
But the government does know about the Veil and The Council. They wouldn’t hunt demons.
The United States government knows.
But does every Government?
Well if it’s another government, then she’s a foreign agent attacking and kidnapping our civilians, possibly doing eventorturing and murdering our civilians.
No matter how you look at it, she’s in deep dung!
She can’t be a U.S. Government sanctioned Demon Hunter because being a demon is not illegal in the United States. A sanctioned Demon Hunter would have to have probable cause that Tamatha was engaged in some form of illegal activity in order to make an arrest, and threatening to slit the throat of a suspect that is currently restrained and offering no resistance would certainly not be permissible. Ergo she is a vigilante.
Yes, being a demon is not illegal, butt that doesn’t mean demons don’t do bad things, and need be hunted down when they, hence, Demon Hunters (who may or may not be demons themselves, may simply be specially trained in dealing with demons)
the governments of the world, or at least the US Government has already admitted that demons are real in this world, by virtue of one of their agents claiming to be part demon… namely Dabbler.
Not so. Dabbler first had a “battle form” and is now publicly out as a space alien, which she also is. The Twilight Council is still a secret, as is the supernatural and demons. Aliens living on Earth still seem to be covered by the Veil.
She seems to be part of some anti-Twilight Council group, actually, since she doesn’t already have all the information Tamatha could give her. Probably some wacko(s) with the lofty goal of exterminating all demons. Wasn’t there some cult doing the finger-steepling thing, way back right after Archon’s official debut?
Actually I think Demon-Hunter lady is a complete numskull.
How old did we say Tamatha is? 12? Name me one kid who can give the details Numskull Lady is demanding!
Seriously, she didn’t even leave a ransom note… Or is she going to send Tamatha back with the note? ? …?
Strictly speaking, if I saw a child sized demon hanging around a night club I would probably think she’s just posing as a child. This demon hunter has presumably just heard about demons hiding among us and the fact that they have a council, she probably doesn’t think there’s such a thing as demon children except in the antichrist kind of way.
This is a good point. There’s an anime about a vampire detective, who in one episode spends the bulk of the time trapped in a well with a demon and a little girl the demon kidnapped to eat, and both the vampire and the demon were too injured to escape until they were rescued.
Afterwards the vampire is feeling pretty good about rescuing the little girl… until he discovers that he didn’t rescue anyone; the little girl was actually a centuries old monster, and had he not stepped in the kid would have been the one eating the demon.
Stupid lady has not gotten with the ‘down low’ that Demons are actually simply aliens who subsist on various forms of energy: Tantric, in the case of one type of ‘demon’ anger, etc.
I.E. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS DEMONS ALA IN THE BIBLE, TALMUD, ETC.
Though considering that the Demon Hunters might be brainwashed from an early age by someone who hates all aliens…
That’s what they want you to think. Don’t believe their demonic lies!
And how do we know that these demons weren’t around when the Bible was being codified? (BTW, demons weren’t actually a thing in Christianity until about the 5th century AD, so maybe that’s when their kind first appeared in Europe?)
True they are not fallen angels but some of them may well be intrinsically evil / dangerous to the public.
There is a good argument that many sucubi are serial rapists
And before the argument over levels of consent removal .. are you willing to argue for unannounced use if rufanol ?
Early to mid teens most likely.
But yeah, anyone who can find out about the supposed Council, should have been able to discover that Tamatha is *literally* a teenager (and my guess is an abandoned/orphaned one from her previous conversation with Sydney). One who barely understands more than the basics of what she is, much less any thing of relevance regarding demonic/supernatural government. The only reason a competent kidnapper would have taken her was as a hostage. Only idiots who didn’t actually do their homework would take her with the expectation of getting anything seriously useful directly from her.
And this is why proper preparation and research is KEY.
For a minute I thought it was the blood chick again. Maybe it is….
Sciona? She already knows all she needs to know, and also she’s currently possessing the body of a Latin American girl.
From what we knew. She could have moved on.
Well, I must say that Tamatha’s mentor doesn’t do a very good job.
Stuff like what is happening/changing when a succubus goes into puberty should be well discussed.
Preferably beforehand considering the magnitude of those changes.
I concur. At the very least out good sponsor should have like – a demon version of “You’re body and you” in either book or movie form that goes over the most common aspects of being a succubus. You can’t tell me they don’t produce stuff like that specifically for these cases ? Orphaned or lost demons in need of coaching! Heck there’s probably even specific stuff like “So your human child turned out to be a succubus, alien hybrid: What you should know and where to hide should demon hunters turn up!”
In her defense, Decolette is off on a backwater world without a lot of resources an FTL world would have. I am not sure how easy it is to travel between the home dimension for the Succubi and the Grrlvers earth.
Maybe DaveB will say in a Dabbler’s Science Corner.
“you are body and you”?
I assume you was looking for the spelling
* your
*Four your and forty You’res ago my yorefathers faught the grammar police and lost. Now we hunt the wilds of commentland seeking vengences on them hofficers that wronges us!
Well said :D
Even though I’m usually a Grammar policeman myself, I can’t help but wish I could give this comment a like, or a thumbs up, or a +1, or something.
Please – it’s ” seeking vengences on them hofficers WHAT wronges us!” – Tut tuts and adjusts monicle
Succubus puberty could be different for each individual.
There’s also the possibility that Tamatha is half-succubus, half-other (probably human or maybe vampire with those red eyes/cute fangs), and we know from Dabbler that being half-succubus is basically still the full package of succubus stuff, just with ‘extra’ from the other half.
So Decolette just might not know everything Tamatha is going through.
Well, I have to play Devil’s Advocate on that… surely they have a way to determine whether someone is half-succubus or pure-succubus and have had cases in the past of humans and succubi mating and producing offspring to go by.
*thinks about the Alari for awhile*
IIRC the canon, hasn’t DaveB said already that succubi are an all-female species? IOW, no matter what the father is, you still get a full succubus – it’s *other* characteristics that are inherited from both parents.
Think of mules, except it would be like the Jack mules don’t even implant much less get born. Jennies breed with horses and beget more Jennies. – which inherit from the father in shared horse/mule characteristics, but are always full mules.
Which is still waaaay the heck out there considering as a bunch of alien races won’t have the same genetic code – or even have genetics based on the same basic type of molecule. So I’m thinking ‘can produce offspring with any species’ must be part of succubus magic here.
Well obviously it would be ‘can produce offspring with any compatible species’
I don’t think Dave’s said when Decollette became her mentor. It could have been after puberty.
Tamatha still is fourteen. We know pretty much for certain that she’s still in puberty because even though she could wind up as short as Sydney she will be much bustier. Right now she can hide her breast endowment with very loose sweatshirts and perhaps some cloth bindings. But when she is mature she will be pretty much like Dabbler and Decolette.
All we know about timing is whatever we infer from what Tamatha said during the start of their conversation – she didn’t know about the Veil until her mentor told her, and she used to go out with her wings and tail tucked. Given that she thought her cover was blown and was pretty flustered by someone asking, having a mentor seems to be pretty recent.
I had the impression it was between say 4-12 months ago, and kind of a part-time thing.
I agree. I understand sexually repressed or over religious (and therefore brainwashed into thinking that anything you discuss with your kids is “an exposure” and not vital preventative information) parents not discussing puberty changes with their kids. But a succubus mentor should be on top of these things as a matter of course.
Another day another spewing of religious bigotry basing itself on some belief held by some small sect somewhere and using it to smear religions with a big old broad brush of enthusiastic holiday hatred.
I can only call it like I see it, and like it actually is. In the United States there is a constant effort, and I do mean constant as in even if one court case is lost another ten will spring up to replace it, almost all led by groups which associate themselves strongly with the Christian faith, to deny children sex education, access to prophylactics, and to deny women of all ages but especially minor girls the right to control their own bodies when it comes to the decision to carry a child to term.
This isn’t bigotry, it is fact.
Since what your bigoted diatribe alledged to be religious doctrine thinking that anything you discuss with your kids is “an exposure is a false statement which may actually be embraced by a few little enclaves but is hardly standard doctrine drawn from their religious texts, yeah. Simple bigotry and you boldly seek to provoke stupid religious arguements and crap spewing that shit.
People don’t come here to be converted to religions and most of us don’t really care to read your posts bashing all people who have various religions much of the time either. Its like a constant obsession for you.
I want to have a fun time with a fun little story full of easter eggs for nerd culture. Not read someone droning on about how wrong other’s beliefs are and having that person manufacture strawman beliefs to claim they have so that they can then be bashed for those made up positions.
The positions you make up and assign to other people are not facts.
uh… Oberon’s right about this. There are people in the United States who claim that their religion is A: the unofficially yet legitimately TRUE FAITH of the nation (as in, they insist that minorities and immigrants are destroying the American monoculture… which they think is monolithic and unchanging), and B: justification for forcing others to abide as they please.
It’s one thing to bash a religion… it’s another to note that yes, the United States has a serious problem with fanatics who insist on “abstinence based sex education” and sending children to “conversion therapy” camps. That’s not strawman, that’s not made up, here’s links about these things that actually, genuinely, really are a serious problem:
https://healthresearchfunding.org/20-abstinence-sex-education-statistics/
https://www.therichest.com/shocking/15-haunting-stories-from-gay-conversion-therapy-camps/
The positions Oberon “made up and assigned” to other people, in this case, were neither made up nor assigned. This is a real and serious issue.
Why are you attempting to keep the bashing going and switching to a position that nobody ever made?
Feel free to show that anyone said that the people who Oberon refered to dont exist?
If you aren’t making that up.
It has been said that while such people may exist they are not the majority.
And that this is not a political or theological forum for one group to express their hatred of another group and the other group to hate them right back and then have both groups insisting that the people around them join their side of the little hate fest.
Go do that crap on some political site.
Hell, go to some stupid gathering and have the people who want to fight about shit throw molotov cocktails at each other and the whole nine yards.
I don’t care to hear all the hate and anger.
I want to peacefully read comics and have fun and I’m not interested in political or religious or antireligious bullshit from people who cannot be civil.
If you dislike people’s position then have the common sense to go have a dialog with the people you disagree with. Don’t go around to other places trying to rouse hatred.
Abstinence, non abstinence, whatever. Debate that with the people who you disagree with directly. It’s on you to do that.
Oberon did make crap up and you did nothing in any way shape or form which defends him on that because as I pointed out…he took a position which som3 religious people hold and assigned it to all religious people.
I used the term broad brush.
That is what that technique is called.
Some people have done something so lets accuse everyone who has perhaps a tenuous connection at best of the same thing.
That is what Oberon does every week or so and people are tired of it.
This is what Oberon does: stirs shit up by posting crap that is aimed to offend, then ridicules anyone who disagrees or dares to point out how he is wrong
That’s not at all what happened though? I don’t know what ‘Oberon does’ but this entire comment chain is someone railing against the mere idea that some people might be using religion to justify doing a bad. Acting like that’s an attack against all religion is absurd.
“Feel free to show that anyone said that the people who Oberon refered to dont exist?”
“manufacture strawman beliefs to claim they have so that they can then be bashed for those made up positions.”
As a matter of fact, that is a lie in its entirety. It was pointed out that religions dont all believe the same thing and that the whole broad brush thing is biggotry
But.
This was not at all about the details of of this belief or that belief just in and of itself.
This will evidently come as a shock to you from your post but.
A lot of people do not come here to talk about religion or politics.
Oberon beats that drum relentlessly week after week and he seldom takes a break.
There are people who use this as escapism.
If Oberon through out his little posts once in a blue moon nobody would give a crap.
But he never lets up. Religion, politics, politics religion. If I wanted to hear about that crap I would join a political party or some damned club where they wear funny hats and act all somber and shit.
I grew up in tornado alley. To me religious people are the guys who give people a place to stay when their house is burned down or it floods or there is a bad tornado. I don’t give a crap about politics and all this happy horse shit.
I realise everybody shits, but they don’t have to do it in the kitchen or the living room.
People who want to argue about politics and God or whatever don’t need to do that on the forums of a comic book which is basically pure escapism.
Which is why this screen name was chosen.
Yes, and it was Oberon who brought up the religious crap, and claiming it was rampant and constant
And here I thought you were just a coward who didn’t want their common screen name to be associated with their pro-religion, pro-facisim screed…
And I’m not sure I still don’t believe that.
Geez… you’re complaining about Oberon, but you’re the one being full of anger and hate. This is a comic that DOES have religion in it. And other RL issues. It’s a comic about a team of superheroes working for the government, addressing real world concerns. We’ve seen this comic touch on African warlords, the activities of multinational corporations on developing nations (whether they’re helping to develop them or hinder the development), STDs, legal jurisprudence, collateral damage… the question on everyone’s mind has been: what is Tabatha’s kidnapper’s motivation? And one extremely likely hypothesis is: religious fanatic who genuinely believes that demons are a threat to humanity (not without reason, given their powers and the things that were referenced by the Council in previous scenes).
Hell, you want to talk about your religious friends in Tornado Alley who help you out? Awesome – ask them what they think of someone like Joel Osteen. Or Pat Robertson. Both in the comic and in RL, there are some really, really crappy people who claim to be the true representatives of their religion.
While no one said that these people didn’t exist, you claimed that these positions were:
And that is a lie. If it was just some small fringe, there would not be a trend of conservative states (and the Republican party was co-opted by the religious right) passing legislation to remove sex education from schools, to eliminate abortion by passing legislation which any facility which provides abortions will find difficult or impossible to comply with (and will therefore have their licenses revoked for non-compliance. See, passing a law making abortion illegal won’t stand up to a court challenge, but passing a “safety” law that abortion clinics cannot comply with is a workaround), defunding Planned Parenthood and other women’s health organizations, etc. etc. etc.
All of this is very mainstream, and yet your open your diatribe by claiming that I’m picking on religion as a whole because of some “fringe.”
I couldn’t give two shits about the fringe! Some single church in some backwater handling snakes is a small scale (heh, snakes have scales) issue. I might find their practices repulsive, but as long as they aren’t forcing minors to participate in their fancy game of Russian roulette they can do as they like.
What I am concerned about are the mainstream religious right, which is a majority and not some fringe cult like you’d have us believe. These fascists are constantly trying to remove people’s rights because they think that their book gives them the moral high ground. But even a casual examination of that book will clearly show that the values it codifies in law are abhorrent to any right thinking person. I won’t go into that very long list here because that is off-topic. But I could, and you’d be left stammering and trying to falsely claim yet again that these are just fringe ideas that do not represent the majority. But you are wrong.
Please point me at a piece of legislation proposed by a mainstream religious organization or even a lobbying group which claims ties to religion or religious “values” which is pushing for sex education or more sex education in public schools.
I’ll wait over here.
Now that you’ve failed, perhaps now you might understand that your entire rant is contrary to both truth and evidence. The mainstream religious right is repressive and harmful to society because they both hate sexual education but also fight against the obvious and logical results of a lack of sexual education and access to contraceptives: A need for easy access to abortion services.
You normally can’t have things both ways, but the religious right makes a really good case study for legislating a thing and then burying they heads in the sand about the obvious results of that thing they just legislated.
It’s still bigotry, on the “Christians” part.
well she is gonna find out if she likes being tied up.
And you tell ME how you see through a solid mask…
Psychic powers?
‘Radar sense’, like Daredevil?
enchanted of course so the “Demon Hunter” can see demons!
aka a Veil Ripper.
Simply put from WoW terms. Fel Sight.
Easy, loose woven cloth stretched over clear plastic.
I’ve worn a few masks like that for costumes. Halloween and such. The secret is to use fabric that’s got a lower thread count than it appears at first glance, and then to keep said fabric skintight over your face and eyes. It’s like looking through a mesh screen.
The same way Rorschach sees through his mask.
It’s not a mask. It’s his face.
You being serious? o_O
Rorschach freaks when they remove his mask saying they are taking his face.
Maybe, butt it’s not hisliteral face (have seen enough clips of him in the food line to know that much)
Which is kinda good for showing his psychosis, but also kinda dumb and not good continuity in that the guy doesn’t live in the mask and doesn’t have any problems standing around with a “the end is near” sign for hours of the day.
Plus when he knows that Manhattan is going to kill him he pulls off his mask and says “Do it!” Seems like if he identified more with his Rorschach persona that would be the one he would want to die as, not as Walter Kovacs.
As far as the “standing around with a sign” goes, one could easily argue that he sees that as the undercover activity for which he needs to disguise his identity. He can’t walk the streets and gather information as Rorschach, but he can if he disguises himself in his alternate identity of Kovacs.
Pinhole mask you do not see holes form outside there’s no light coming from inside the mask.
Plenty of low-tech (i.e. simple cloth) masks allow the wearer to see out with only a minor impairment of vision (reduced light throughput is all) while preventing anyone from seeing the wearer’s face.
To be completely fair to her hair – I will point out to the room in general that in a lot of succubus myths also involve shape shifting to some extent. The wings appear and disappear as needed in a lot of versions and some versions their ‘glamours’ actually border on actual shape shifting. Shame she’s just a juvie. Also I’m disappointing she’s not being forced to cosplay by sweaty fanboys…. That seamed like the most logical conclusion.
Considering the Antagonist in this scene has multiple arms, shouldn’t Tamatha be asking what type of demon she is?
Then ask if she’s actually some kind of super-person instead?
Was about to make a comment of how the demon hunter seems to have at least three hands by my count. Weirdly I’m half expecting Tamatha to make the same count and start accusing Aranea of being a spider demon or something.
Take a look at the shadow at the last panel of #795.
She’s got *six* arms.
Maybe she is a quaddie from Bujold’s Vorkosigan series. A human gene-engineered for space with 4 hands, zero legs, and 3d spatial awareness.
That would still be only four arms, and zero legs. The shadowed view we got clearly (well, as clearly as a shadowed view can be) showed two legs and six arms.
She could will be a foreign agent United States has the doctrine that Nations that we do not share a agreement with for extradition are not off limits for forcible extraction.
Doc octavius ring any bells ?
So far, it doesn’t look as though Tamatha has actually got a good look at her abductor to know that the three hands she can feel are attached to the same person. When she does, she may well be so full of questions that the interrogation goes into reverse.
could this be the lady in panel #6 of comic #186 ,different mask or an associate
Was thinking the same thing, decided to read the comments first before making own comment about it :D
Why is the demonhunter wearing lipstick? Is she trying to impress someone with her sexuality?
What an extremely weird comment to make.
Makeup is meant to enhance the wearer’s sexual desirability. The demon hunter is wearing lipstick but the succubus is not.
We have zero information as to whether inhuman Bladespider is wearing lipstick.
Maxima looks like she’s wearing a glossy bright red, but that is her natural coloration and like tthe restof her body cosmetics don’t stick.
All the vampires have blood red lips.
It seems like a very reasonable question to me. I don’t recall the last time I saw any athlete (with perhaps the exceptions where ‘pretty’ is a part of the sport, such as figure dancing and rhythmic dance) wearing lipstick or makeup of any type.
I’m not expert on the subject, but I guess I just assumed that athletes don’t bother to get all dolled up when they are looking to run the 100 meter dash. Or hunt demons.
* figure skating
Maybe she wants everyone to think she drinks blood regularly, so she stains her lips red.
Makes as much sense as anything else.
“I hunt demons and want people to think that I drink blood regularly” makes sense to you? Not me.
Options:
1) She just like the way she looks in it. Superheros don’t need fancy costumes, they wear them ’cause they like the look. Even if they are trying to hide their identity, a ski mask would do the trick. But no, they make big elaborate costumes that must be a royal pain to create and repair, and repair again, and again, and again, because they like how they look.
2) She was going out on a date, and it got interrupted, and how she’s interrogating in style.
3) She uses a deep red chapstick, and it’s cold/dry in here.
4) Her lips are naturally that color, or are that color when she uses her powers or some such.
Personally, I’m going with 1. She likes the look, it matches the color of her mask, and that’s good enough for her.
Likes wearing lipstick
Well this lady obviously has only one thing on her mind and I don’t think it bodes well for our young friend.
…finding out about her boss and the Council?
Locating and killing what she believes to be her enemy. This is a hunt probably an extermination hunt nothing nice to experience from either end.
Ask the Jewish people and my American Indian ancestors.
Ah, bog standard moron with power and believes conspiracy theories…cue rambling sound track and vaccienes, chem trails etc. uhg, will none rid me of these people.
Should be introduced to Cooter?
The Council is a conspiracy! Monsters live among us, led by a shadowy council. The U.S. government knows and will actively help keep the secret. One of the members of Arc-Swat is a demon.
It’s not a conspiracy theory when it in fact is a conspiracy.
She is new on the scene. I am hoping she spent a lot of money on the mask believing it has some sort of mystic charm against demon posession, but doesn’t know the language. The person who sold it to her probably wrote something totally unrelated, like ‘no left turn’.
Spider senses tingling!
Tamatha has the supernatural ability to look at the space above her head
without a mirror?
What is that called? Hat vision?
Long hair upside down
Common sense. So rare these days it’s actually a superpower.
No. Common sense is that when you are dangling upside down you immediately know it. The human body has a kinesthetic sense and an inner ear which would make an upside down orientation immediately known. And I don’t give a damn if she is a succubus and not a ‘human,’ none of the aliens so far in this setting are alien enough to not share those common traits. They are all ‘rubber forehead aliens’: Humans in all except a few trivial and cosmetic ways.
Well, Trenticle might qualify as being more alien than that. But not by much.
We are not talking about a human body.
Human bodies do not have wings, nor do they naturally process magical sex energies for various functions.
Succubus.
They do what?
It’s quite to be expected that Succubi are addapted to perform a standing 69 for hours.
Her species can (apparently) fly. An inner ear is potentially of negative survival value, because under certain conditions the inner ear gives seriously false information about orientation, leading especially less-well-trained pilots to perform high-speed controlled flight into ground. For this reason the important rule on night flying is *always trust your instruments*.
Peripheral vision, actually. I suppose you’re going to tell me you can’t see your own face without a mirror, too?
Without some reflective surface, yes. Unless your eyes bulge out of your face unnaturally and you can pivot them in ways that humans can not, yes, I’m going to tell me you can’t see your own face (not the tip of your nose, your entire face) without something reflective.
Well, I can see my nose, cheeks, lips, and the end of my chin, as well as the borders of my eye sockets. Obviously there are some parts of my face that I can’t see, like my forehead, because my eyebrows block the view. Can’t see my hair, but that’s mostly because I’m bald.
Basically, if the tip of your cornea is visible from a point on your face, you should be able to see it; You’ve got about 200-220 degrees of vision off your eyes, they really are pretty remarkable from an optics standpoint.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_vision#/media/File:Peripheral_vision.svg
I’m glad that you agree that without a reflective surface no one can see their own face.
How does Tamatha not realize she’s hanging upside down?
Post unconsciousness confusion.
Yeah, unless succubi recover much more quickly than humans from post unconsciousness confusion, the demon hunter would not get much useful information even if Tamatha knew it.
Confusion is not supported. She immediately starts commenting about her hair in a lucid and unconfused manner. No, this is just lousy writing.
Bad writing. Setting up a not terribly humorous bit of humor at the expense of any sort of realism.
Or maybe just the author of a webCOMIC asking us to suspend our belief for a moment? Obviously, we meet succubi every day, and super heroes too. But it’s difficult to accept a lack of proprioception, just as a funny reaction. I understand.
Succubi and super heroes are supported in the narrative. If we are to believe (not suspend belief) that Tamatha and other succubi lack proprioception then that would also need to be supported in the narrative. Dabbler would not be an agile swordswoman, for example. She would be shown constantly stumbling into furniture and other objects, bumping into people, missing her mouth with a fork full of food or a glass of water, etc.
There could be entire pages, weeks of comics perhaps, just exploring this lack of body awareness which humans take pretty much for granted, because the implications are both huge and could also be fairly amusing in a webCOMIC. (I’m not sure why ‘comic’ was capitalized in your post, but hey, if the cool kids are doing that these days who am I to go against the hip crowd?)
I forgot to add a footnote for ‘suspend belief’ where I state that I believe that you meant to say ‘suspend disbelief.’ I’ll leave it up to you to either confirm or deny my assumption.
You might want to get a better example than ‘dabbler would not be an agile swordswoman’ given that her skill with a sword is…somewhat questionable from both her own narrative (she thinks she’s better than she is and has the injuries to prove it) and shown results in the comic itself (when her swordswomanship were…less than stellar). :P
Marion Harmon has a “Wearing The Cape” short Christmas book which just came out. I didn’t bookmark the link but you can probably get to it from the link on the sidebar.
Found it, but I had to search Wearing the Cape, it didn’t show up on Marion Harmon’s Amazon author page.
A Christmas Carol (Wearing the Cape)
It’s been an interesting year, and Astra and Joyeuse Guard are glad for the holidays. It’s time for snowball fights and Christmas lights, family and tradition. So when Astra is attacked by a villain she’s never seen before, and saved by Faith, her sister in another reality, she takes her home for Christmas. That alone would have made it the most amazing Corrigan Family Christmas ever—but when Christmas morning dawns and the world awakens to find that Santa Claus really, truly delivered on the wishes of millions of children around the world, Astra and Joyeuse Guard are called upon to find out what happened.
Because they may just have to save Christmas.
Dark brooding inner monologue. “Carrying a 90 pound demon up fifty flights of stairs to hang off the side of a building. The double eep wasn’t worth it. Halo showing up really wasn’t worth it. Notes to self get out of this line of work.”
Is it a bad thing that I read that in Rorschach’s voice?
Actually it’s perfect
“I’m not tied up on this roof with you! – YOU’RE on this roof with a tied up me!!!!”
“….”
“OK, that sounded better inside my head.”
“You came here to save this fiend. You came here to stop me. I tell you now… you can not do both.”
*cuts rope*
. . .
“I did not know she could fly. This is super awkward.”
Even if she can’t fly:
Lighthook grabs Tamatha, PPO makes a large hole in demon hunter.
Tamathat: “Noooooo!!!!!!”
Sydney: “What? She was threatening your life!”
Tamatha: ” *Sobbing* You made that hole right where she had tucked my cellphone!”
Umm, you miss the part last page where they found her phone outside the toilet and handed it in? o_O
Go back and read the last three panels, we won’t wait
I really hope this demon hunter isn’t one of those small minded bigots who just sees bat wings and thinks the worst.
Ya don’t hafta be a bigot to be deluded by provincialism, or blinded by confirmation bias ~ or both.
She’s right. Tamatha is in fact a demon.
If you want to read more about this nerd and her friends*, check out RoxyWasHere.com for their superhero antics.
*= Note that I have yet to write any of this nerd and her friends actually being superheroes. They don’t become really important until the, ahem, third planned book. But there’s a bunch of other cool stuff there too, like some scifi, fantasy, scifantasy, and a fanfiction where the Avengers beat up Darth Vader.
Also, if you’d believe it, since I submitted my character cameo I’ve had a bit of a, as the kids say, “lifestyle change” (she/her, now). I apologise for any confusion with my name that I think I may have caused Dave in trying to contact me about the cameo.
Is Tamitha or the demon hunter your cameo? Your post left me unclear as to who “this nerd and her friends” was.
We already know who Tammy’s creator is
Plus, DaveB mentioned not only the name of the Demon Hunter butt also her creator’s name
Sixth panel is just so stupidly amusing if you turn it up XD
*DERP*
The Thatcher effect makes it hard to process stuff that’s upside down, which probably goes double for drawing.
You can tell this Demon Hunter is NOT Dabbler…!
I was looking for this comment. I chuckled for a solid thirty seconds when I saw that face.
Well, yeah, we knew that already when we saw her with six arms in the shadows
Dabbles made a set of limbs for her BFF in high school as well made herself an hand or arm and an eye (“Not as good with a sword as I think I am”) – do you REALLY think she couldn’t make one extra set of arms for herself?
I personally don’t think it’s her, but she could totally make another set of arms.
Maybe it’s Dabblers mother……….. :-0
My question is… Is our ARCH-SWAT Spider related to our current 6 armed Antagonist, Aranea???
It would be a great twist – she’s his long lost evil ‘twin sister’ / ‘cousin’ / (insert relative)… angry at the world because she was never able to learn to pull her extra arms back into her body, like Spider can…etc.
Heh, is the eye ‘art’ an actual function of the head piece, or some sort of symbol. It looks like a really messed up version of the hunters mark from gargoyles.
I was thinking the same thing. I think it’s mostly the red-on-dark-blue.
not to mention having to have all your clothing tailored to accommodate wings
Next, the sound of batwings flapping attract actuall bats.
Who then fly off.
The bats coalesce into Scarlett, who tells Sydney she’s found Tamatha.
A little while later we see a tiny sphere of light following a bat.
A six armed super (which would make only the third confirmed Super with “abnormal” (as in not peak human) features, Maxima and Marble Maiden being the other two…Varia can do transformations but its not a permanent state)…then again I have no basis that the six arms are a permanent state and this character can’t just absorb and regrow their additional limbs.
But one who has heard of the council, has an ability or device to see through the veil, knows the big boss succubus of the club is involved…but clearly wasn’t sure of their own abilities enough to target Decollete so targeted the kid (which they may not know is a kid…see every other anime and horror movie with a child like demon/monster; mimic predators…I’m small, harmless, innocent…wait no…I’m a giant frog made of teeth) but seemed the easier target of the two to abduct and interrogate.
Halo currently looks like a redheaded… well… We all know what’s coming.
hey look at all the pedo comments on being tied up! Yay! feed the wierdos! (please don’t)
It is not society’s task to be so overwhelmingly milquetoast that no weirdo could ever find something to latch onto. It is the weirdos’ task to learn self-control.
More importantly, Harkker, can you clarify what you see as sexual here? I see a child captured in error, by a fool who believes in demons and thinks this is an adult demon.
I am naturally concerned that the child will be hurt, although I am aware that it is not that kind of webcomic.
I see no one but you insisting that it’s sexy. Do you need to examine your thinking?
Well, there are Demons.
They are extra dimensional entities in the Grrlverse. Some of them such as Thothogoth look pretty classically demonic and can probably slaughter entire armies at least ancient armies) just like in mythology. Succubi can probably drain people of tantric energy to the point where they die with a smile.
According to Dabbler there are Angels of a sort as well.
Spider blade isn’t an idiot, she just doesn’t have a who’s who guide.
Alas. It is a sworded tale.
First comment I saw was killaims. I didn’t read anything else. I usually enjoy the back and forth, but yeah weirdos should just stay in their holes.
Umm, the only pedo comment have come across, is your comment
It might be that Succubi, or at least Tamatha’s variety do not have an inversion effect upon their bodies vs gravity. In their line of needs and interests, it makes sense.
So, the people present at the club include Halo, Krona, Pixel, Decolette, Harem and Varia. I hope the Demon Hunter is stronger than she looks or this fight will be as short as the one against the Fell. I wonder if she’s working for somebody else?
Also Elspeth, Kat, and Scarlett.
Forget everything else and remember one thing only. This is my fangirl. My first who wasn’t just looking for a signature for their scrapbook. Do you really think there is going to be one microsecond of Halo NOT using her lighthook to completely bind the target?
That’s not really a succubus thing. More of a bat thing. Sadly, you’re not a bat.
Really? Snakes? Snakes are you thing! Personally mine is spiders although no so much as a philia as – I just think they’re cute. Spiders are my favourite animal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZoYVZmKSYFg
Wouldn’t she be able to tell she was upside down through proprioception? I know they’re not human, but I’ve got to imagine succubi are still able to orient themselves through spacial sensation. Actually, I’d almost expect they’d be better at it.
Not if she has literally just woken up, any possible confusion could be passed off as just that: light headed because of what was used to knock her out
Also, maybe due to her succubae nature, she might not get the disorientation slash blood-flowing-to-the-head that normal hyu-mons get
You have the innate ability to detect your position in space, called proprioception. It’s in your inner ears, and it’s the fastest sense to reorient upon awakening.
For humans.
No humans in this scene.
“[Proprioception is] the fastest sense to reorient upon awakening” – jdreyfuss
I’ll take your word for it. Is it fast enough that she’d definitely know she was upside-down in less than six panels, or is that a feasible (and or within the bounds of comic timing) startup lag?
(Orientation, rather than position. It’ll tell you which way is up, but not whether you’re in Jamaica or Jakarta.)
First three panels, Tammy has turned into a Troll doll :D
Step right up win a Kewpi.
Yes! That was my reaction too. Now i want to see the whle cast as troll dolls.
How can that hunter see out of that mask she’s wearing???
loose cloth knit, probably
More likely enchanted to break the veil.
Enchantments are not needed to break the veil.
The veil becomes broken for a particular human if they view a bunch of occurrences that the veil cannot disguise.
That’s why the Council enforces behavioral rules.
5th Panel: “Oh, I just woke up upside-down again.” (Not that unusual an occurrence, even if you’re NOT a succubus.)
7th Panel: Not a bad approximation of a sexy squirm, she’ll be a natural when she’s older.
IS this the eight-armed person we saw earlier? It’d be an awfully uninformed monster who doesn’t know anything about ‘this… [Twilight] Council’.
To me, panel five was Tammy being sad when she realised looking like a Troll doll wasn’t part of being a Succubae
And that wasn’t intended to be a sexy squirm, just her attempting to get out of the bind she found herself in
And unless Tammy was being stalked by two crazies, then yes, this is the same six-armed shadow we saw before, and she wants to know more about the Twilight Council.
It’s what a sensible person does when they learn about some secret organisation: ‘kidnap’ someone they believe is connected and interrogate them to find out what they know (counter terrorist groups do it all the time)
There really is no excuse for being a demon hunter these days. Demons have long suffered an alarming degree of hatred and bigotry in the past, but in these enlightened times we recognize that demons are hard working and useful members of society. Demons may now become Doctors, Lawyers, Certified Public Accountants or even appear in music videos.
Yerg. The horns growing out of the eyes are so off-putting, I can’t even come up with a hackneyed analogy to describe my discomfort.
I thought the demons were kinda cute.
Aren’t demons supposed to be off putting?
Yes, while not all demons are going to be evil, or simply bad, those who are will require someone specially trained to deal with them
Not all hyu-mons are evil or bad, and yet… you still have hyu-mon bounty hunters hunting them down. Why should demons be treated any differently when they do wrong? o_O
Merry Hogswatch everyone.
And may your Chrimbus Bush be trimmed and wet enough for the Winter Man to come out of his Winter Cave to stuff it full of presents.
I don’t know why I made that joke, I don’t even like Tim and Eric.
M E R R Y C H R I S T M A S !
… when’s the last time anyone saw Yorp?
Last week I think.
Yorp has a job that sometimes yanks him into an evil mandatory overtime dimension.
I just HAD to break the prime rule, Never read the comments section. Some of y’all are just ing ridiculous. It’s a web comic. That’s it. read and enjoy!!! To Quote Wheaton, “Don’t be a dick.”
heh it censored my “” so I was saying Bleeping ridiculous.
Missing the “”