Grrl Power #798 – Object oriented armageddon
Okay so I tried to make Krona look excited about the things she could learn from Sydney’s orbs, but uh… I think in panel 3 and 4 she looks, well, psychotic. She’s just excited about the possibilities. She loves learning. Nothing nefarious, promise!
Sydney accidentally looks super cute in the first panel there, though definitely not 22. Er, 23 now, I guess. Well, okay, still technically 22 even though her birthday has elapsed, as she didn’t exist during that span of time. Not that Sydney has ever looked 22.
When the group rolled up to the club, the bouncer probably took one look at “Agnes,” Krona and Pixel, and was like, “You’ve got to be kidding me. I’m being pranked, right?” Actually, come to think of it, since Ellie, Kat, and Crimson are in the group, they probably used the same staff entrance that Decollete and Tamatha use.
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Since the bar is run by a Succubus, the meaning of ‘spider-man’s webbing’ takes on a whole new meaning
The anime eyes are really beginning to creep me out. Sorry DaveB, but this is just not good in your style.
They’re definitely getting more pronounced in weird ways. Getting like, creepy doll vibes lol.
The giant animè eyes have been there for a long time.
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/comic/grrl-power-79-a-history-of-violence/
I’ve seen the look that I think is being rendered with Krona’s face. The smile jut a little too wide and too fixed, the face just a little too flushed, the eyes open so far they give away a monomaniacal obsession that’s left someone over sixty hours without sleeping….
I’ve seen that look. Uh, In a mirror.
Ah-hem. I, uh, didn’t realize it at the time but I wasn’t doing so well. The Big Idea did in fact turn out to be a complete game-changer for the entire industry, but I ruined my life, drove away my friends, and crashed so hard it’s not even funny.
I’m feeling much better now, but DAMN, Krona’s too young to be that far around the bend and still wound too tight. Most of us don’t develop the ability to maintain that kind of obsession until we’re in our twenties at least.
If we’re comparing to now, those are regular eyes.
Like Jonathan Coulton creepy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTSkWnKs9rM
Jonathan Coulton is not creepy. He wrote the song for Still Alive by GLaDoS and therefore is a musical genius. :)
https://youtu.be/RSsstXfcRWw?list=RDRSsstXfcRWw&t=62
He also did Portal 2’s ‘Want You Gone’ :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpfcibJyjQg
No blaspheming this great man’s name. Along with fire and the wheel, these two songs were some of the greatest contributions to mankind.
Believe they were referring to the doll in the song, not the writer of the song
It was too much of a risk to let it go. I had to defend Jonathan Coulton’s honor, just in case.
Also it gave me an excuse to post those links.
Should never need an excuse to post great clips :D
Unless it’s WoW clips :P
They’ve been slowly getting more… shiny…
Like, they’ve been big for a while, but over time the lighting style has changed, and it’s had an interesting effect on the eyes. Makes everything feel kind of glass-like.
It’s been a SUPER slow trend though. Just slowly shifting style over time. Don’t have any real issue with it, but every now and then it stands out. Particularly during close ups.
Those Anime eyes were always part of his style
I think the issue is the plastic smooth shiny look the 3-D rendering has on it as opposed to the flat cartoon look it had before making it look less like a toon/anime and more like dolls. Slightly less shine would probably due it.
Umm, no, that shine was always there as well, looking at one of Dabbles’ icon images and her eyes are looking just the same
I can see its not by looking at the images of them at the top of the page. Its just the medium being used, gives it this almost plastic like texture to it. I am not really complaining, just noting what I see, most cg rendering has this texture.
Except, this isn’t cg nor 3-D rendering
And again, it is only Dabbles who has the eyes that show the same shine
the skin texture has the same sheen to it, I am not referring to eyeballs alone but an overall package
It’s still not cg or 3-D, if you want either, go check out “Merceneiress”
‘SAME SHEEN”, sheesh. That is me conceding that isn’t CG or 3-d, but it still has that same plastic like sheen. You are making this a bigger deal than it needs to be. I am just saying the current style might be standing out more to people as the texture gives it a more plastic or doll like look than it had before. Making some features like the eyes stand out more to people than they used as a result.
And me pointing out that the eyes have always looked like that, the fact it has taken some people this long to realise it is their problem, not me nor DaveB‘s
@guesticus The creepy eyes and unsettling art style are the fault of the artist, and no one else.
The eyes are only one part of the problem
KILL IT WITH FIRE!!!!
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Er I mean Krona should probably stop hanging out with snowflame n,n;
Snowflame? Stop him before he ingnites!
DaveB sir, continue drawing how you want, do not be that old man who threw his ass in the water because opinionated idiots wouldn’t let his grandson ride it
And that ass’s name? Guesticus.
Or should I say ‘butt?’ No, I should not.
That just shows your level of stupidity, if you don’t know Aesop
Aesop is a very good friend of mine. I bring his ass Guesticus a treat every time I visit.
Knowing or not knowing Aesop fables is not a signifier of intelligence. Also, regardless of where it came from, that was a terrible analogy. And you shouldn’t encourage creators to reject all criticism wholesale.
The critics are right, and he should keep drawing. He doesn’t need your help.
Don’t talk with your mouth full sweetheart.
There are times for etiquette and manners, and then there are times when a fourteen year old may have been kidnapped.
I am getting an uneasy feeling, but I will give DaveB the benefit of the doubt, especially with a guest character, not to use Tamatha as fridge bait.
I blame Marvel, DC, and some I’ve seen from Top Cow. Introduce a naïve innocent character, quickly befriends the hero, villain attacks and kills that naïve innocent forcing the hero into a morality challenging event to define them going forward on how far they will go against a vile evil culprit.
It is cliché, but again those comics do it usually to some random character they introduced for that purpose. Granted after awhile some started to subvert this by actually saving the kid, sometimes after something horrible happened to them, just short of finding them mangled in the alley out back left as a calling card by a rival gang.
90’s “Dark Age of comics” did stuff like this too often that even seeing a possible set up for it makes me eye a comic side ways.
Just remember: Tammy is not DaveB‘s character, so there are some things he can’t do to her
And even if that had ever been considered, DaveB seems to be enjoying the character.
Purple haired Tamatha the Succubus teen fits in with blue haired Krona the cheat class Semper Vigilantis mage, pink haired super werewolf, and blonde Sydney the overpowered artifact wielding mainn character.
They still need a short brunette, a short orange haired woman, a short green haired woman (who must ot be Nitrine) and a short white haired character. Then they have enough to divide team Lilliput into multiple pairs.
The name of Pixel dissapeared from my post. Is this a portent that Sciona’s seeking the blood of supers? Could she be controlling autocorrupt?
Forget the Lullaby League or the Lollipop Guild, release… the Rainbow Rangers! :P
I’m pretty sure that DaveB can do anything he wants with characters in his own comic. He may have sold cameos, but that doesn’t mean he gave up all his rights.
A cameo doesn’t mean “DaveB must consult with me before any comic in which the cameo character appears and get my approval for what happens to the character.”
You have that sdrawkcab: the ones who created the cameo character didn’t give up their rights to that character, so yes, DaveB kinda does have to consult the creator about what he is going to do with that character
Also, fried cheese. Sydney is eating it correctly.
Actually Mrs. Scoville has a point here. The average teenager latches onto their smartphone/smartpad like it is literally attached to their body.
Before they go anywhere, they make sure they have it or the bag it is in.
When you find a smartphone without a teenager in a public place like that? Foul play IS the only explanation.
Mrs? When did she get married? o_O
Obviously to Frix. Sure, he ‘said’ it was not an actual marriage proposal and was just messing with her, but plot twist, it was!
:)
Hi Dave! This is I think my second comment so probably won’t know me xD but about your website. If you want to fix the partial https there’s a website I used as a server and and a website admin -> whynopadlock.com and missingpadlock.com both pages will give you a list of mixed content errors.
I looked @ and noticed A LOT (over 1500 errors) but all related to > grrlpowercomic.com/wp-content/themes/comicpress-oldgrrlpowercomic/images/page_gfx/top_gradient.png and
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pretty sure if you set those to https your errors should all B gone and your site should display the green padlock in https EVERYWHERE at least from my external access that what I see : ) anyways, thanks for the comic and thanks for dialing down a bit the heavy sex tropes from the pre-space-travel redneck seduction.
Ahh … rats… I tried removing all the “http://” hyperlinks from my post. If an admin could remove those that would be great.
Hm, you know when I hear “art” and “big eyes” I think Margaret Keane, so her work might be a good reference here. I notice a few things in her work that make them look organic. Soft folds of the eyelid, lower lids that extend across the bottom half of the eye, tear-ducts and so on.
Then there is making them slightly smaller than dinner plates. ;-)
Truth.
it’s a succubus owned club; it might not be ‘webbing’
Prediction for tomorrow:
After spotting something through the True Sight orb Sydney swoops up to the rafters from which the trapeze hangs. From below, Specs shouts “Sydney! Wait!” But the sound is lost in the loud music. Sydney reaches for a motionless figure with purple hair…only to have a purple wig come off in her hand revealing a crude bomb beneath.
Meanwhile, on the roof outside…a snarling six armed figure moves (as silently as a spider can if i5 has five arms busy trying to hold a struggling biting fourteen year old silent) towards the edge of the building and drops off.
Inside Krona types quickly into the air and the device next to Sydney silently shuts off.
As Sydney breathes a sigh of relief she spots a second smaller device abov3 her and throws up mister Bubble spread wide enough to come to just under the small box.
In a grassy area beside the nightclub a spidery female holding a kicking and biting purple tornado lands and is hit in the back of the head by a fist encased in spotless white leather. Above the arm length glove we see a green and black stone shoulder.
Always wondered what happened to Marble Maiden, and then she gets locked up because vigilantism is still illegal
I really am hoping for Marble Maiden to show up. I don’t think she’ll show up immediately, however. And the ensuing fight better be much more showy than that :)
Panel 3 is the Renfield imitation
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/45/Renfield_1931.jpg/220px-Renfield_1931.jpg
Here’s the picture https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/45/Renfield_1931.jpg/220px-Renfield_1931.jpg
Has Sydney really never had mozzarella sticks before? They’re a staple appetizer at literally every single bar, pizzeria, and everywhere else appetizers are served! They’re as ubiquitous as buffalo wings and potato skins!
My two cents on the whole ‘are the eyes creepy’ thing – it’s a combination of the increasingly soft, photorealistic shading (which improves everyone OUTSIDE sydney, krona, and pixel’s art style) and the unchanging proportions of their faces. Ultimately, the more realistic the rendering, the smaller (closer to human proportion) you want the eyes to be. It’s why Battle Angel Alita looked so unsettling in the first trailers.
I think a good fix would be to shade the whites of their eyes a little less realistically, and simplify their noses. Or just concede to giving them still heart-shaped faces, but slightly more human proportions. Sydney’s look blended with the rest of the cast the best back during the Vehemence arc, where the level of rendering was still somewhere close enough to cel-shading to not hit the uncanny valley. Now, daveB’s overall anatomy and artwork has improved quite noticably since then! It’s actually that level of improvement that make our little anime-proportioned gals look so awkward, though. Hell, the syd in the sidebar with the patreon shirt looks great!
^WOW^!
Breast cleavage (Decollete [panel•5]) that looks like ^real^ breast cleavage. That’s ^very^ unusual to see in comics (although it’s apparently somewhat ^less^ so in views which are from directly in front of them).
Chris Hazelton (“6•Gun Mage”, and “Misfile” [now completed] & its ^currently running^ spin-off “Hell High”) usually does it very with his line•art!
Just clicked.
The universe is a simulation and reality is an illusion (Buy Gold!)
That said… this has implications to Sydney and Krona in what they’re capable of. Krona’s excited because she can, and she’s being asked if she can, and the answer is “yes” to whatever Sydney says. For anyone who’s modded, they’ve run up against environment limitations constantly, so I get Krona’s excitement.
But in their reality-is-a-simulation, Krona has mod tools (her powers) and modding access, but not root access. Sydney has a program (her powers) with root admin access, but she herself does not have dev tools or root admin access.
If Sydney is close to Krona, Krona can tap into Sydney’s powers, she can create a mods for Sydney’s powers since they were within the sphere of Krona’s development environment (making Sydney much more or less powerful), and with that, while near Sydney, could slap in a terminal mod to Sydney’s powers, granting Krona local dev access with admin privileges, granting her basically absolute powers within her immediate environment.
(For the more video-game savvy, currently the work is Morrowind and Krona is a modder who uses the Elder Scrolls Creation Kit to make mods. She’s pretty much limited to what the creation kit lets her do, even though it’s quite a lot. With Sydney, she drops out the root ES engine, and switches over OSMW – an open source implementation of the Elder Scrolls Engine, and can now modify the game by modifying sourcecode directly, letting her do whatever she wants on her ‘computer’ (aka, the nearby space). In this state, she could even modify Sydney’s stuff too, such as granting her extra orbs and additional upgrade paths.
Heck, Krona and Sydney, as a team, could likely upgrade all of Archon.
Assuming everyone would trust those two with infinite god-like power over them, and permission to modify them, for even a limited span of time.