Grrl Power #767 – Maxima effort
If you were wondering why Max hadn’t joined the fray yet, this is it. It’s not like she couldn’t have knocked some heads first, but she wanted to be sure the Interdictor’s shields wouldn’t interrupt her blast. She wasn’t that concerned about it blocking her shot, she was more concerned that if it did, the backblast would be detrimental to her own team and probably all the windows on headquarters.
Somehow I didn’t realize it while I was drawing them, but now I have two sequential pages where someone dials in their energy attack complete with closeups of their face and hands. Normally I draw two pages side by side, then save them as separate files when I’m done, but because this page is a double, they were separate files that I had to flip back and forth between. Still, you’d think I would have noticed.
Okay, so… let’s all politely ignore that tactically… this was terrible move for Maxima. For one thing, she’s lucky that the ship listed before crashing to the ground. I mean, Maxima is crazy strong, she could have shouldered it to the side though if it had started coming straight down, but I’m not sure she could lifted it.
The part of this that makes it especially risky is that while coring out a spaceship is a baller move, there’s a chance she could have hit something… sensitive on the inside. What if she had ruptured an antimatter chamber or hit some kind of… I don’t know, singularity implosion drive? (whatever that is.) She could have turned North America into a black hole or something. So… let’s pretend that she had a brief conversation with Cora about where to aim.
The reason I didn’t get into this stuff in the comic is because the point of the whole Fel attack wasn’t to have a big drawn out fight with a boarding action and all that, it was to prompt Cora’s final line. I actually planned out a longer fight, which I hinted at when the Mushroom Spacecop girl called the ship a supercarrier, but again, I decided to trim the encounter to the essentials.
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Well, I guess we will just save Sydney as our Trump card if the evil wanabe-Nazi aliens get serious and come back in force.
I guess we did need to get the story moving along.
Well, she may get to shine out in space, as the Fel don’t seem nearly as tough as the Squidwards.
The Fel are tracking their Artifact, which may be assumed to emit the Stygian Energy which infects them. Thus wherever it goes the Fel track it, although it could be difficult to detect giving whomever has it a few days in each location if they’re lucky.
Hell, it may be the sealed Gateway to an entire sentient dimension which is trying to conquer Sydney’s dimension. Destroying it could unseal the gate and usher in an apocalypse. Add in consequences recycled from dozens of silver age plots using this trope. In that case finding someplace the Fel can’t detect it would create a minor story arc, or having Krona or someone on the Twilight Council seal it completely could create another reason why the universe might suddenly notice (or quarantine) earth.
My first thought was, “Wait…where is Sydney…?”
Kind of the same way I think when my cat is too quiet…
Sydney likely has not made it out of the building from the basement firing range to the outdoors firing range yet since she was seeing the broadcast on TV. I doubt Peggy would leave her unescorted in an area with live armaments.
Sydney is not in the basement firing range.
Peggy took Sydney to fire a machine gun, which necessitates a full length range.
They are off in the great outdoors.
Mary Sue beam activate, form of instant solution. I mean, how many panels do you want this to go? We gotta wrap this up folks. Aliens, ship, boom… and we are walking, and we are walking.
Once again someone reaffirms my hated for how horribly mis-used that term has become.
If Maxima were a Mary Sue she’s be the hacker, the one in charge, not have to do any work, and Vehemence would have loved her at first sight and stopped fighting because of how much he loved her at first sight; then she’d go on be promoted to super president, ect…
THAT is a Mary Sue.
a character being OP or a Deus Ex Machina is not a Mary Sue.
Incorrect. A Mary Sue doesn’t have to be good at everything to qualify. The defining characteristic of a Mary Sue is that they have no real weakness, or things the author tries to set up as weaknesses but which never actually do anything to slow the character down or hinder them in any real way.
Maxima’s OP for sure, but as a writer I saw from her introduction that she follows common sense and thinks of the battlefield and every potential factor that could turn her actions into a clustersmurf that does more harm than it would doing good. This to me is a limiting influence on her full potential being utilised at any one time. I postulate that is her weakness; as long as she’s on Earth and there is remote possibility she could screw up the planet royally, she wouldn’t take the risk.
No, that is an inconsistency, a plot hole, you just called every Marvel and DC super hero ever made a Mary Sue, like how Thor’s hammer couldn’t even budge Juggernaut in one comic or Magneto’s powers affect it, then decades later another writer not bothering to look up past stories has the hammer pummel Juggernaut and Magneto manipulate the hammer. These are bad, but like I said, plot holes, inconsistencies, retcons,
a Mary Sue is a very specific thing that from the get go has no flaws, everyone loves them, and they outshine every single character in every single way. OP can feel like that at times, but character development is usually the key to preventing this problem. Like Goku, Goku is an asshole, and a lot of people in a lot of universes hate him…for good reason, he comes close to it (what with most of his villains becoming his friends and early on was a likable idiot), but he isn’t a Mary Sue. Superman has come stupidly close to that title…and honestly was a Mary Sue before Mary Sue was even a term even in his super dickery days he was written as mainly loved by all and no matter what he did “could do no wrong” even when realistically…he should have been called out on a lot of things in the golden era.
I am entirely unfamiliar with the term Mary Sue, and I never mentioned Marvel or DC.
I wasn’t responding to you. Follow the edge of the comments they indicate who is responding to who like pages overlapping.
Cursed errant tap of my phone’s touchscreen. As I was saying, I should be clear that there is a distinction between weakness and flaw in context that the former refers to her superpower skillset, whereas the latter refers to her as a character construct. When I spoke of a weakness I referred to an identifiable limitation with her superpower.
If you want to know of potential flaws easily dug up from analysing the strips then I can tell you that Maxima comes across as someone that is uncomfortable with the attention her changed appearance draws to her. Consider her origin story: the hard edge shown over the series and the noticeable discomfort from people talking about her in the bank is entirely alien to her portrayal up to and after she started to transform. The change in her appearance affected her unquestionably and we can infer that as time went on she developed a harder edge to her personality prior to pursuing a military career. She is reluctant to be associated as a “nerd”, which supports the proposed change Maxima went through into becoming the Maxima we know.
We know that Maxima is easily enraged with women being held to stereotypes, portrayed in ways that are archaic. We can speculate that her strident feminism stems from the local culture of where she grew up and the unwanted attention her changed appearance brought her. We can go further and say she is triggered this way.
The key thing overlooked by everyone here is that there is only so much back story and character development that can be squeezed in with a large cast of characters. We may very well discover more of what’s underneath the surface of Maxima that will give us certain facts. It will happen when it happens, be patient with what this comic has been giving us so far to speculate upon.
A Mary Sue is actually a character that if removed from the story …. the story ends as they are the focal point and the only character of worth in the entire story.
“…and we are walking, and we are walking.” Is that from Dave?!? The white house tour?
pretty sure it IS… but they may have gotten it from somewhere else too…
Maxima isn’t a Mary Sue, if what happened with Vehemence (who WAS close to a Villain Stu for a while with all the stuff he was pulling out of nowhere) is ANY indication. Or what happened with Sciona, who was able to escape her twice and still enact her plan while doing relatively well against Maxima and several other supers.
Maxima is arrogant, but it’s shown as a failing that she has, that can bite her in the butt. A Mary Sue would be loved by all, everyone (even the villains) would think she’s great, she’d never have any flaws except something adorable like she’s a little clumsy or something, she would always beat the bad guy without a problem (clearly not the case with two of the ‘big bosses’ they’ve faced so far (and even the super-mannekiller was a problem for her with the mesmerizing gaze). She’d never lose an argument (whereas in the comic she loses several – to Arianna and to Dabbler). She’d never look foolish, except if it makes her more endearing, while in the comic she’s looked foolish several times (most notably with Sydney when she first tried to yank on the orbs in Tubey and wound up on her butt). She would have no weaknesses and would be the best at everything. Here, she’s the strongest, sure, but not the smartest, not necessarily the fastest. And not even the most invulnerable – Achilles would be the most invulnerable, while Maxima has had her nose broken (by Vehemence), gotten scratched (by the Super Mannekiller and possibly by Sciona’s wings) and had her back popped (by Atomic Bombshell). She’s not immune to mental control either, and she does need to take orders from someone else above her. She’s not a hacker -that’s why they have Leon. She’s not versed in magic – that’s why they have Gwen and Zephon. She does not have a sterling record (o’ destroyer of mosques) – that would be Hiro. She’s even admitted herself that while she’s powerful, she would have had a problem with taking on ALL the other supers in the restaurant parking lot fight (even not including Death Toll or Vehemence, both of whom were at least a match for her, and probably capable of actually beating her – especially since her strategy tend to be overshadowed by her overconfidence, while Sydney is actually a lot more game theory about fights).
She’s actually rather IMPRESSIVELY balanced for a flying brick superman-type character, when it would be really easy for a lesser author to make her a Mary Sue. The fact that she can one-shot a battlecruiser is just showing that she’s REALLY powerful (and she had to bring her plasma beam up to the max to accomplish it).
Frankly I’m happy this was NOT a year long thing like the Vehemence fight was. I like the idea that Maxima got to show off here to cut a fight short. The best part of this comic is the ‘regular’ stuff they do, and the superpower discussions and testing. :) And of course Deus, the resident David Xanatos :)
Max is only arrogant if she couldn’t back it up.
Nah, she’s arrogant even where she should be cautious, like with the Super Mannekiller (or even here, where she didnt think of the possibility of hitting an antimatter engine or something, like DaveB suggested). Mainly because she’s USED to being the most powerful person in the room. So she is arrogant, but her arrogance is not unfounded at least. It’s understandable. And that is a flaw, and flaws make OP characters more relatable and more three dimensional as characters. Perfect people are boring, and Maxima is far from perfect. :)
For example, one of my more favorite Marvel characters is Monet St. Croix. She’s INSANELY arrogant, and will be the first to admit that she is arrogant. She’s also the first to admit that she can almost always back up her arrogance with her abilities and intelligence and her wealth. But she’s not a Mary Sue. Same for Tony Stark – he’s INSANELY arrogant, but he’s flawed as well. Aside from being an alcoholic, his arrogance gets him into a lot of trouble REGULARLY, and he’s just lucky that he happens to also be a genius to get himself OUT of trouble just as often.
Precisely, I think people forget the term “Mary Sue” is a reference to a specific character and the traits of that character. Too often used because people think it refers to a powerful character, a deus ex machina, or sometimes just a likable character whose villains can be talked down. Some can come pretty close, like Sailor Moon, Steven Universe, He-man, and She-ra; but I wouldn’t place them as Mary Sue status either because they actually have development, aren’t perfect out the gate, and better than everyone at everything; like they can’t make puppy dog eyes at the villain to get the to stop…yes I know Steven Universe sort of did that, but convincing was needed to over several episodes and those were also family members of his.
But yeah, Mary Sue has become a flag of “I just don’t like this character” or they feel the character has to struggle constantly and have a horrible experience not to be called that; and some writers have made some pretty bad characters just to try and avoid the label; *He is a hero, but he has no powers, lives in a crappy run down apartment, everyone hates his super hero persona, and him personally, and he spends every moment not in costume in his apartment contemplating eating a bullet*. Hey, if that’s someone’s bag, go for it, but not every character has to have nothing but heart ache and struggles and having good traits, happiness, and powerful does not make one a Mary Sue.
There is also a bit of self-insertion going on in Mary Sue characters to qualify as such.
Though it nowadays is more common to have marketing force /audience/ insertion of a impossibly and improbably perfect character into a series. Or rather, it was more common but it turned out that contrary to what marketing believed such characters were not liked and rather more reviled by the audience and the marketeers eventually wised up to this fact (after destroying the charm of far too many shows).
‘Mary Sue’ was the main character in A story called “A Trekkie’s Tale” in a fanZine called ‘menagerie’ published in the 70s and was actually INTENDED to be a parity of bad fan fiction writing.
( one of the first fanzines I ever bought-still have it too! )
and generally speaking a true ‘Mary Sue’ character is a self insert by the writer who wants to star in a story
in their particular fandom of choice, almost to the point (deliberate or not) Of absurdity.
although nowadays it’s used for any badly written character who so perfect as to be ridiculous.
Who says that was the Max?
I agree! She cranked it up but nothing shown says that she was even near her absolute max, just that it took more effort than she expected. Her potential max may never be seen on earth because it could possibly flash ignite the atmosphere and destroy most life on the planet.
There is (fortunately) solid evidence that our atmosphere is ridiculously hard to bulk-ignite. The Oh-my-god particles don’t do it, and there have been dozens of them by now. Turning a small portion of the atmosphere into relativistic plasma and leaving a nasty crater is a much greater hazard.
Wonderfully well put, I couldn’t have analysed any better than you have.
Space Cops arrive: “What’s all this then?”
Cora and/or Maxima: “It just fell over.”
Space Cop: “Oh? Just fell over? Before or after it exploded?”
The front fell off.
It turned inside out, and then it exploded.
I heard that!…. Hold Please!…..
Cora and/or Maxima: “YES!”
Or, perhaps:
Cora and/or Maxima: Which half?
(Simultaneously) Cora: “Before” Maxima: “After”
(Simultaneously) Cora: “After” Maxima: “Before”
Cora: “It exploded, then it exploded again.”
Can you do that? Can you explode twice?
Yep, they’re called secondary explosions. It’s what happens when small boom one sets off a much larger boom two. Bonus points if it leads to an even larger boom three.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkAl2JvaiOM
Reference to this scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkAl2JvaiOM
Fel over there, over there, all over really.
I’m wondering what Max’s Power Allocation was when she finally punched through.
Somewhere on the order of Several Hundred Million Petajoules I would imagine. :-P
i think they meant was this a default 3 beam a full 5 or the oh shit im dying 6 on max’s stat shuffle
She turned it up to 11.
It’s over nine thousand?
(Somebody had to say it)
What, nine thousand!?
Don’t it’s a ridiculous saying, 9000 what!?
DBZ – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SiMHTK15Pik
“What does the scouter say about his power level?
“It’s over 9000!”
“Nine Thousand! There’s no way that could be right.”
His power level is 1006, Nappa; kick his ass.
Wait…
I was wearing the scouter upside down.
It looks like she’d have been at the max for plasma blasts, sort of like how she was at the max on armor with Vehemence (because she had to keep narrowing and focusing the beam 4 times before it got through the shields).
Well she was safe behind the shield, so she probably shunted far more out of defence than she normally would.
They’re lucky they didn’t just turn Syd loose with PewPew.
Imagine the embarrassment when it turns out the Fel were really after Deus for buying all that illegal tech, and were just looking for directions.
Their technique in asking for directions [by shooting everything in sight] may need some refinement.
“Please ignore the fact we are doing something that would level your entire city. It is not meant to be an aggressive gesture. It’s how we say hello…”
Here’s a better one:
Galaxhar: Humans of Earth, I come in peace. You need not fear me, I mean you no harm. However, it is important to note that most of you will not survive the next 24 hours. The few of you that do survive will be enslaved and experimented upon. You should, in no way, take any of this personally. It’s just business. So to recap, I come in peace, I mean you no harm, and you all will die. Gallaxhar out.
It would have been more believable if she’d at least looked a little bit tired after that much, and Jiggawatt as well.
Truthfully that would be interesting about the same time we have no idea how massive her or jiggawatts energy reserves are. For all we know Maxima can bust that move out 10 more times before she’s exhausted and needs to take a breather. Sort of like Goku and his Kamehameha where originally he can only use it two or three times in a day now he can spam it even when he’s too weak to transform.
Max needs to be careful with those plasma blasts. The chances of setting the atmosphere on fire are high.
If a nuke doesn’t set the atmosphere on fire then it’s probably fine.
You CANNOT set the atmosphere, on fire. It is composed mainly of Nitrogen, which is NOT flammable. Oxygen is not flammable either. Even the most powerful nuclear Nuclear Bomb, cannot do that either.
If we want to drag out the chemistry books, nitrogen can combine with oxygen to create nitrates, and combining with oxygen can be labeled as ‘burning’. But, it takes something like a lightning strike to put enough energy into the system to drive the reaction. (which is how most plants get their nitrogen, except for legumes, those cheaters.)
Can housing your own private, captive population of nitrate metabolizing bacterial minions really be considered chea…
Sorry. Just heard myself saying that out loud. You’re totally correct, legumes are totally cheaters.
You two win one internet today. But you have to share it.
When they did the first nuclear tests, there was a pool among the physicists as to whether they’d initiate a fusion chain reaction in the atmosphere and destroy the world.
It couldn’t happen, of course, because there would be nothing to contain it, even if you did get hot enough to start one. But they weren’t really serious about it.
What Brett said. Because Science… :P
I’m pretty sure Fermi was just just screwing with the brass in charge of Operation Crossroads.
https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-scientists-risked-destroying-the-earth-during-nuclear-tests-and-cern.t692/
Wait, who the hell was taking a bet which they could only win if the earth was destroyed?
There was some small concern that the first Nuke would set off Fusion of Nitrogen in the atmosphere. Not fire, Fusion.
While all of the math said “It probably won’t happen”, the scientists weren’t completely 100% sure that it wasn’t going to happen.
Similar discussions are ongoing about whether the LHC will create a black hole and destroy the Earth, although after it was (finally) turned on for the first time in 2008 the media quit worrying about it.
You’d think that a fully operational LHC would make you worry more, wouldn’t you?
I certainly do.
Apparently nobody in the news (and a few more ignorant than they should be physicists) understood that at the energy levels of the LHC any theoretical black hole wouldh have an event horizon less than a nucleus across (probably less than a neutron even) so that putting another particle of matter in it was not even theoretically possible. Not to mention that it would evaporate within a femto second.
(exact numbers made up since I am not a theoretical physicist, but the general principle stands from the explanations of those that are)
Oxygen is not flammable? News to me.
While it is needed to sustain fire, it can not be used to fuel for fire.
Remember the triangle from chemistry! Fire needs 3 things,
1) Fuel (ex: wood)
2) Heat (how much heat is dependent on a number of factors, though most reactions will continue because they produce their own heat)
3) OXYGEN (which acts as an……… Oxidizer)
Take away any of the 3 and suddenly no more fire. Heck, the higher end fire extinguishers both drop temperature and deprive oxygen. We have a very sexy class-D extinguisher at work that in all likelihood we will never get to use.
The “singularity implosion drive” seems like it would describe the propulsion system used by the Vorpal Blade in its eponymous book.
B/c rapidly fluctuating mini black hole generator (and all the explanations “Doc” Taylor usually provides) is a mindfull.
See this is the thing I was talking about. All those assurances that Earth had nothing aliens would want to take are talking about the real Earth. The Earth with supers (and supernaturals) does have things aliens would want. Heck, Sydney alone has something that would be worth going to war to try to get.
Curious if that was Maxima’s full power thrown into the beam, or if she was using her normal beam power levels, but trying something new with it.
My thoughts as well – much of the discussion was around the idea that Max wanted to go full power, but I see nothing to indicate that she has. My impression is that she has tested this aperture feature before, but never been able to try focusing it so tightly due to lack of a safe and private venue, so she wanted to cut loose with it.
Even in a secure, private test area like the Nevada bomb sites or the Antarctic, how do you responsibly test something like this power? You can’t fire down or sideways with something that could potentially punch through the Earth’s core, and you can’t fire up in the air without risking it being observed by one of the thousands of satellites in space right now and sparking an international incident.
How do you responsibly test something like that? You don’t really… Most you can do is fire into space and then when the international community does a double take, just say “The gold beam that shot into space? It was a test of a new sodium laser for making an artificial star to help ground based observatories correcting for atmospheric distortion.”
Cue UFO conspiracy theorists say it was the government testing captured alien weaponry. The intelligence community can’t figure out what really happened because finding Maxima in a pile of UFO conspiracy theories is like finding a needle in a hay stack.
“A golden woman with super powers shot it out of her hand? Yeah right. Testing alien weaponry sounds more plausible and we don’t even believe that.” ~ International Intelligence Community.
Hiding top secret stuff like this isn’t hard. Stick it in plain sight and poke the UFO conspiracy theorists with a stick.
In the real world the easiest ways to get people to ignore something is for it to be embraced by groups seen as “crazy” by the social standard, with certain cue words making people ignore otherwise incredible or potentially alarming, world changing finds, or just *we know something was there, we don’t know what it was, but because these people say it was X, we will now ignore it so we don’t look crazy too*
cue words:
UFO,
Alien(s),
Atlantis,
Time Traveler,
Angel,
Demon,
Fairy, Fairies, Fae, ect..,
Ghost,
Sasquatch (or variation there of),
Lake Monster,
Dragon (this one even makes crytozoologists ignore it)
Something was flying through the air, we all saw it, its on video, thousands were there to witness it. But someone called it a flying saucer, an angel, or a dragon. So the media laughed, and everyone else just ignored it. Despite ya’know SOMETHING WAS THERE.
“Dragon (this one even makes crytozoologists ignore it)”
You insult Mother Tiamat, the Chaos Dragon. :)
you always have to say it was a dinosaur, lake monster, sea serpent, or such; the second you say “dragon” they turn up their noses; even when it is flying around and spewing out toxic fumes or even fire. Yes, naturally, it was a four legged pterosaur that spits out fire and carries off shiny objects, naturally…
Who is to say that actual dinosaurs did not carry away shiny objects? There are many modern birds that do that (primarily to help attract mates, but for other reasons as well) and birds are the last surviving dinosaurs. So this behaviour in modern birds might have started in their more terrestrial ancestors.
flash back to an actual convo with a crypto guy about sightings of a flying creature…ignoring the parts where it had hands and wings and was spitting fire.
and to be fair, a lot of things like shiny objects, humans included.
So with there being humans up in space, do you think any of them have Super Powers?
Cora seems a little surprised about the abilities of Maxima and her teammates, so while there are probably some, I think most either get their powers from non-human ancestry, magic, or some kind of advanced tech.
It depends on what tropes DaveB is using.
In Marvel (and sometimes in DC) characters who get to a certain power level tend to leave earth (the Superman’s World of Cardboard discussed earlier, as well as a possibility civilization could come to rely too heavily upon them) and go have adventures off planet. Graduating from terrestrial adventures to cosmic adventures is like playing a video game where launching a new expansion starts you with everything you had when you finished the game before…but all that still only puts you at level one for the new area.
Sometimes the Cosmic characters visit earth if they get homesick but they generally do so incognito. And also their incognito disguise is often penetrated by the character in whose comic the visit occurred.
So, my guess is that there may be a few really powerful characters off having adventures in the fringes of the universe doing the Adam Warlock / Binary / Quasar thing.
We’d only see them briefly as a plot device. Maxima is already providing the superman, and members of the Twilight Council are already providing characters who are perhaps centuries old.
“What if she had ruptured an antimatter chamber” proton/anti-proton annihilation causes a lot of lightning and eeryone gets a dose of gamma. some as in the fight with… the really grumpy guy.
“hit some kind of… I don’t know, singularity implosion drive?”
hawking radiation and a lot of heat. again with the gamma
“Hawking Radiation ” is generated by a black hole.
Well, they say the best way to establish dominance is to find the biggest baddass in the room and drop ’em. The collective jaws of the entire universe probably just dropped to the floor right now. Now what I’m wondering is how much of a “max effort” shot was that for Maxima?
“I love it when I’m seriously underestimated.”
~Me
Apparently, Maxima does too.
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…I just realized Max has an extra superhero (superheroine?) power: DRAMA HAIR!
She scooped it up into a ponytail while getting Cora to brief her on the situation, it’s neat and tidy in that top panel…but when she cuts loose with her energy blast power…BAM! Her Superheroine Hair Dramatically Loses Containment And Flippy-Flappy-Whips All Over The Place!!!
Why did the bad aliens ship NOT fall on top of Coras ship?
Am i blind? Didi it not hower over Coras ship just now? What happened?
Also “holy Ovaries BatMan! That golden statue just shoot down that space ship”
Max’s expression in the last panel is great.
Coming back to this, I think I have a better mouseover…. “Must. Protect. Quavering. Masses.”
Just a thought.
Somehow, it seems a little odd to see Maxima explode (okay, this one might actually qualify as a nuke, depends how the ship is powered) something in front of a press conference protected by a forcefield and NOT have Phantom floating around condemning her for immanent villainhood over it.