Grrl Power #729 – Most succubus greetings involve entry
Unlike vampires, succubi do not need permission to enter things. The should definitely still get it. It’s just more polite that way. I’m just saying they don’t have any weird hangups about it.
Cora is aware that most societies will have limits on PDA’s, and succubi fully understand that a rarified commodity is a more valuable one. In this case, sex / access to sexy bits / access to sexual displays. They really were just saying hello in a way that exceeded acceptable thresholds of most places on Earth, but then they switched to just fully messing with Maxima. In panel six, that knowing glance was part “This is what I’ve been dealing with”, and part “She’s so fun to mess with, you want to have a go?”
Individually, they’re both potentially totally competent adults, but they’re a bad influence on each other. It isn’t clear at this point how long Cora and crew will be hanging around Earth.
Panel 1 amuses me because of the height difference between Sydney and Maxima. Sydney is more than a foot shorter than Maxima, so even with Sydney poking her head up the bottom of the frame like that, you got to figure she’s standing on her tip toes. I couldn’t think of any other way to fit them and all the dialog in a panel that size. Well, I could have done a long shot, but that’s not how I do.
Moving update: We accepted an offer on our house, and our offer was accepted on the house we want. It’s all moving along quite quickly, and now there’s like a month long wait until all the closing dates, so hopefully the daily interruptions to my work schedule will be reduced for a bit. At least until we actually close. Then it’s all banks and signing and moving, so that’ll be a busy couple of days.
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And do you two have to do that right now!?
Yes actually. Why do you ask?
At least let me set up the camera first? No reason to let it go to waste?
…And Daniel the Human is -_- facing me, so I better wrap this up…
No need Arcron has ultra HD cameras set up all over the place, for reasons. Yah reasons. And considering that Leon he who gets distracted by shoulder boobs probably had a hand in designing the system we all probably know esactly what those reasons are. And if max ever finds out he will be turned into a living vodo doll. :P
I thought the idea of voodoo dolls was that you didn’t need to be able to attack the actual person. Although I guess this version does have the advantage of actually working…
but the vodoo doll is connected to the person so if you want to hurt the dolll…you attack the person.
Yeah, I’d imagine that you get that a lot from him, that look of circumspection…
¬.¬
What?
No, not circumcision! That’s something altogether different! You can relax a bit & uncross your legs, Screwball. I doubt Daniel the Human would do that to you.
Are…are you sure? I mean, we did watch Robin Hood; Men In Tights Sunday night, I don’t want any part of me in a guillotine of any size. DEFINITELY DON’T want the “half-off” special either…
Then again, he’s not the type to try and cut pieces off me, he has other ways to “correct my behavior”. Guess I’ve been pretty good for a while, haven’t seen the Board Of Education for a while. That cricket bat does have a few chips in it tho…
I would have expected more along the lines of “Sorry, did you want us to wait for you?”
Well, we’re bass-ackward savages, what can I say?
So – when does Sydney’s debriefing begin?
Sydney already got debriefed…By Frix
Panel 2 is showing off a fetish(?) of mine. Flesh bulging around things, wether it be fingers or clothes. Most artists don’t know to show this when characters are… grasping… with each other… I’m glad this one does…
Not much ‘bulging around things’, butt understand what you mean: kinda like when Dabbles did the invisi-grope on Maxi back when Sydney was being ‘recruited’
I would suppose that Buns Physics was sort of a related topic when DaveB was researching Boob Physics for this comic. It’s just that muscle tissues react differently from fat tissue in this regard.
So in the context of DaveB making a reference to a Succubus High Five, a PG-13 comic is best to leave that to the reader’s imagination but it does indeed involve all five fingers at once…
Realizing that her legs are solid light constructs, the fact that they do this when groped is pretty impressive.
Ooo, hadn’t noticed that in panel three, was, umm, concentrating on the butt-grope in panel two
Her limbs may be holo-light, butt her butt is still very much real
If you remember during the incident in question the briefs were still on, and a nice shade of blue.
That was before Sydney got ‘Frixed’ :P
After the welcome back party apparently…
I just want to hear the silence when the Generals realize Sydney has a shield that resisted a ground zero nuke AND a gun that popped World Killers one two three.
Also, she’s four times faster at flying now…
Sydney might still be not powerful enough to take on Max 1V1, but Sydney does seem to be catching up…
Sydney still has her ADHD and hyperactivity powers to rely upon. That’s how she managed to nail Max with fear vomit.
I doubt Sydney could ever take Max 1V1. Sydney is fundamentally limited to having to telegraph her moves at human speed due to the orb system and Maxima, when at her most serious, has the reactions to go with her super speed.
That doesn’t mean that Max is stronger, mind you, just that she potentially makes excellent use of Sydney’s weakness. I don’t think there’s much doubt that maximum power Sydney would bring more to an operation.
I think it depends on the situation. In a refereed bout, either Sydney gets her shield up at the start, and it’s a draw, or Max prevents her from raising her shield, and Max wins. In a real confrontation, Sydney has the element of surprise (that’s pretty much axiomatic), and the question is whether Max can escape the lighthook once it gets a hold of her…
In the scene for the reconstruction of the restaurant, Sydney attempted to lift up a steel beam that was around half a ton or a full ton but couldn’t lift it Max could so Max could probably pry the lighthook off of herself
At that time, Sydney was trying to lift several steel girders at once by wrapping a loop of her Lighthook around each girder, in a series of loops to get a grip on them. All of them combined was too much for Sydney to lift.
When Max set herself in place to test Sydney’s lifting strength, she estimated that the Lighthook has about 16 tons of effective capacity.
And since Max was able to resist the Lighthook at that point, unless Sydney upgrades it, Max will likely not have trouble with the Lighthook in the future. No indication yet on whether Mac can shrug off the PPO, though.
She may not be able to throw her around but squeezing python style is still in the picture.
I must disagree with the limitation you’re placing on the lighthook.
While yes it does have a LIFT limit of 16 tons we don’t know it’s tensile limit.
If Sydney where to say wrap the tentacle around max and then in a knot tying her feet together Sydney wouldn’t be able to tow Max (16 Ton limit) but whether Max would be able to escape would be a different story.
I believe a example of this is Sydney choking out the vilan at the end of the car-park fight.
true
Would be a good test of which is stronger: Maxi or earth’s gravity on Sydney (the only reason Maxi wasn’t able to pull Sydney out from under the ecnalubmA via Mr Tubey was due to surprise, and poor footing)
Nope – it wasn’t that Max was unprepared, it’s that the orbs became an immovable object when Max tried to move them farther away from Sydney. Her subsequent headbonk and collapse were from the unexpected change in anchoring.
Same thing happened when Sydney forgot them in her car earlier in the day, the tube wasn’t restrained and didn’t move at all, but Syd was brought to an instant stop.
We don’t know if Mt Tubey moved or not, seeing how he was inside the car where we couldn’t see, it’s possible that he tried butt was brought short by Sydney who is certainly not strong enough to move her car
We saw during the Restaurant Rumble that Sydney can be pulled via her tentacle and with Mr Buble deployed
Remember, Maxi can easily carry Sydney, so unless Sydney is heavily secured, she will be moved via her balls being pulled
If it came down to it and Max saw Sydney going for the shield orb, she could zip in there and clap a pair of mittens or gloves on Sydney and the fight’s over before it begins.
she better be as there an almost 100% chance of that happening at some point in the story. lol
i mean its been telegraphed quite a few time already, by more then one person in canon and out including by Sydney herself.
Well Sydney also has her “puppy dog eye” attack that Max had to throw a save for.
So the cast page lists Sydney’s age as 21. Is that 21 as of page 1 (post flashback), or is it 21 as of the start of the flashback? I ask because if Sydney was 20 at the start of the Flashback, then she reached the U.S. legal age for alcohol during her trip to the Alari home world. Might we see Sydney getting drunk for the first time during the welcome home party? Since Archon is a quasi-military outfit, you just know there is going to be ample amounts of alcohol at any party they throw.
A very interesting prospect that I, being british, had not considered. I don’t know if I approve of myself doing so but I definitely see cuteness potential in that.
Word of Dave (the other one) has said that she has already reached alcohol drinking age at beginning of the flashback. I think it was stated somewhere that she was already 22 at the beginning when arguing with Joel about running a comic store and spooking some lady jogger and her dog with her marketing efforts. So that would make her 23 now, although her body is still only 22.
I know that is some point of the recruiting Sydney tells Max that the state considers her an adult.
In the U.S. we have multiple ages for becoming an adult for different things. At 16 you can drive, at 18 you can vote and sign up for military service, and at 21 you can finally drink. Then there are some States that have different ages for when you can get married. Generally you have to be 18, but some States allow earlier with parental consent.
Heh.
In my day the retirement to drink in the military was to be tall enough to reach the bar.
Of course, civilian laws varied by state (much more sensible than what we have now) and where I grew up the drinking age was eighteen.
Requirement
Pro tip: if you want to make sure that Sydney can be seen in frame, just make sure that you can’t see the flight orb. (or y’know, actually show her holding it…). I suspect that if I was in Sydney’s situation, (ie: short person suddenly surrounded by tall people and allowed to fly in public) I would probably start floating around all over the place to emulate being a head taller than everyone else – at least until I realised that hitting my head on every doorframe that I pass through is a bad idea. Or if I need to use both hands to carry something…
…Okay, fine, I’m nowhere near being a pro but “Pro tip” just fit rather well in that situation. You do you!
So, when will me meet the new recruits? After 2 months, all the other recruits (who were already into their training) should be done with everything keeping them out of operations. I suspect they also have had people accept the “no vigilantism” rule and are about where Sydney was in training when she left.
This is true Sydney has two months of training to catch up with. I don’t think Archon can pay that bill, she has to pay it herself.
Sydney, has training in actual combat, I doubt that the other recruits do.
The equivalent of testing out of “Solo Combat 101”. A full member of ArcSwat likely needs the equivalent of an associate in team combat. Maxima, and Hero likely have masters/PhDs.
Military skills cannot be learned entirely within a university system, and do not equate well.
They are more analogous to becoming a physician, with lots of lab work, internship, and residency required.
Sydney has just had the experience of being forced to perform surgery with only part of her textbook training, and only her intro to lab textbook.
Fortunately she has natural talent and good instincts so she had been given some internship work early.
What surgery? o_O
Ocular surgery to remove the A-Sydney-tism.
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That’s hardly something anyone would consider ‘surgery’, if you were going pull something like that, at least go with her slicing up the first one (which doesn’t count either, just in case you were thinking that)
I believe that Reality Check was engaging in analogy.
Right – and they’re not going to let her bypass the part of training that’s all about learning military thinking/protocol/etc…
But wasn’t their bigger concern with her that she had this incredibly potent suite of powers that she hadn’t mastered… or for that matter, come close to understanding?
Given some of the maneuvers she pulled off to survive (I’m talking about the side-step/blink then precision eye-shot maneuver)… she’s definitely grown in mastery a LOT over this last little adventure.
If she can demonstrate her improved mastery, that goes a long way towards soothing troubled minds, I think.
Is Dabbles shaking her head at Cora because she used ‘Kooky’ wrongly?
(Sigh) Humans!
Uh, no.
It is a *tsk, tsk* like gesture, directed towards Maxima.
She is indicating that Maxima is the backwards one here in this situation.
Could go either way, we have already seen Cora isn’t fully proficient on Dirt idiom’s (and personally not sure if ‘kooky’ is the correct word either)
It’s not so much that they’re prudes is that they’re shy. Where is that the same thing?
Shy is when you don’t want to you do things in public. Prude is when you want others to be that shy.
And mature is when you just don’t want the stench which drying sweat and various…fluids leave when nobody cleans the mess up immediately.
Keep that in private quarters.
This is basically how succubi say hello.
If they do that again, Sydney should turn a hose on them. “Get a room you dogs!!” Sydney would say…
“But what’s wrong with THIS room?” says Dabbler…
Hey now! I will not stand for you throwing around negative stereotypes like that.
How do they “enter” each other?
I was going to link to a video of that, but Daniel the Human……discouraged me from doing that. Sorry…
Well they all have at least 6 holes between them and at minimum, Succubi may have more that I don’t know about, and they have at least 30 things to put into them possibly more depending on what Cora has programmed.
Oh and they are both good friends who know that there are not many boundaries because of the previous Adventures they’ve had together. Dabbler is just trying to welcome her friend to the planet. A planet welcoming session. Yeah that’s the ticket.
Let’s just say that DaveB gives us a clue with his reference to a “Succubus High Five” & leave it at that.
Kind of a Succubi Low Five, really.
When both participants are athletic enough with gymnastics and/or access to micro-gravity/anti-gravity technology, even the difference between “high or low” tends to become irrelevant.
Hard Light construct can take many shapes.
Succubi are shapeshifters *even if Dabbler focuses on illusion instead* (and in folklore the Succubus and Incubus are one and the same thing able to change gender as needed), not a stretch to include intersex in that ability. Even if Dabbler has little shape shifting experience, the gender shift is a species trait, so little training required; like if shapeshifting to the extent of say changing their facial structure is like doing a focused karate chop by martial arts comparison than extending the clit into a penis/penis like structure would be like a light stretch.
Although all that said, I imagine Maxima meant it more metaphorically, as in they were groping so hard they looked like they were about to become one (enter each other), hyperbole.
Head and shoulders knees and toes (Knees and toes)
Head and shoulders knees and toes {Knees and toes)
Add eyes and ears and mouth and nose
Head and shoulders knees and toes (Knees and toes)
Feet and tummies arms and chins (Arms and chins)
Feet and tummies arms and chins (Arms and chins)
And eyes and ears and mouth and shins
Feet and tummies arms and chins (Arms and chins)
Hands and fingers legs and lips (Legs and lips)
Hands and fingers legs and lips (Legs and lips)
And eyes and ears and mouth and hips
Hands and fingers legs and lips (Legs and lips)
Also, what Rhuen said.
What if they just put their right foot in, and put their right foot out?
Don’t forget to shake it all about!
DaveB, moving takes a LOT of time (sorting, packing, dithering over whether or not you really should keep so much stuff)… If you need to go to a once-a-week post, we will understand. If you feel too guilty to do that, then just do SKETCHES, and post that.
Heck, dive into the archives and post old pre-finished or attemptied pieces of art for us to enjoy while you’re on a temporary moving hiatus!
(For that matter, an enlarged version of Sydney’s skill tree with the new dots colored in will suffice–you can literally re-use art with just a quick addendum for the added skill points!)
Either way, this move is going to put a lot of stress on you. For the month before, and then up to a month after, moving will wreak havoc on your production schedule. (Like Sydney at Comicon, your concentraton & focus will decidedly suffer.)
IT IS OKAY TO JUST POST AN ENLARGED PANEL HERE, AN UPDATED SKILL TREE THERE, A SKETCH OF OLD ART, WHATEVER.
Do Not Kill Yourself trying to keep up with your usual posting schedule, mkay? We love you. Don’t kill yourself.
+1
BUT IF YOU DO KILL YOURSELF, MAKE IT A DOUBLE SPREAD!
Yeah, if you decide to go overboard, go all the way. Don’t feel that you have to go under or even on board if don’t want to or can’t, though. Whatever fits into your life is good.
Hmmm…If DaveB video-streamed killing himself while over-doing the artwork, would that count as an Artistic Death or a piece of Fatal Performance Art?
0.o
Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Still leaves a mess for someone (else) to clean up.
I dare say Ladyofthemasque speaks for almost everyone who enjoys this comic. Take a break from the comic if you need to.
I fully agree. Moving takes a lot of planning, time, funds, boxes, people to pack, carry, move, place and unpack. probably even more than the expected month, make it 6 weeks or more of you need any flooring, wallpapering of bathroom re-tiling.
Also, don’t forget to mark/write on the sides/top what needs to go where, that makes it so much easier.
And an “Intermission – showing (older) concepts, tryouts, character sketches, one panel gags” is a good suggestion.
Word.
+5
I agree with Ladyofthemasque: please take your time and don’t overdo it. We’ll still be here when you’re done moving!
We would rather getting all the comic slower than getting the next page sooner and I would love a page with an updated (mumbles “and labeled) skill-tree even more than an update.
Skill tree and catch up the cast pages.
Two seconds? Maxima you poor sweet summer child… COUNT THE HANDS!
Yep, each participant has a hand out of sight
Dabbler has a hand in Cora’s hair
yes, she does but where is Cora’s 2nd hand???
Not up Dabbles’ skirt-dress, we can see the bottom of that :P
Dave B, just a heads up from having gone through this myself, your buyer’s lender may require repairs before the closing can be done. I’ve been at this for three months on mine and will be closing this week. I had already replaced the roof and siding due to storm damage and I had refloored it with new carpet and wood flooring. The lender still found the most nitpicky repairs they could during the process. Just be aware.
Isn`t carpet removal the first thing a new owner does?
Meanwhile somewhere in HQ Math’s head exploded.
He’s over in the corner, quivering and drooling.
Honestly, with Dabbler’s illusion ability and Cora’s hard-light technology… I would not be surprised if they spent those last six panels boning without anyone the wiser.
…actually, I wonder if Sydney’s Comm Orb can see through technological illusions like hard light or if it’s specific to magical illusion.
I’m betting that Sydney never saw Bill and Ted’s Excellent adventure otherwise she would not be having the time travel questions.
/George CArlin owned that role.
I hope “succubi do not need permission to enter things” doesn’t mean they commit rape with impunity.
Well, they have a lust aura, so this is pretty hard to say for sure. Dabbler had no problem turning the whole office into a puddle, all of them wanting them – does that count as rape? They are not acting on their sane senses, but magic makes everything messy.
I’d argue that is very much rape. The aura is forcing a reaction or forcing people to be in an mind state the would not be in normally and making them more susceptible to succubi’s advances. I feel like the keyword is forcing. It’s not a choice on individual to not be affected by the aura.
If you spike somebody’s meal in a way to make them more desirable of sexual activity and then take advantage of the situation (and the other person), then you can be charged with sexual assault or rape, depending on specific circumstances including jurisdiction. If the other person self-medicates, then there is still an onus on you, but generally it is less severe. That would be a parallel situation.
“desirable of sexual activity”
That has yet to be invented, or discovered.
It’s known as arousal.
It’s been discovered and studied by cultures all over the world for thousands of years.
But…the victims(?) aren’t self medicating. They’re being forced to have a mental reacting due to the aura of the Succubi. I mean the phrase “succubi do not need permission to enter things” in and of itself is EXTREMELY rapey. That they don’t care and apparently only sometimes feel the need to get permission would freak me the hell out, since they can manipulate your brain in ways you’re not giving them permission to do.
You mean, the same way women (and men) do when they dress provocatively on a daily basis? o_O
It only becomes a ‘problem’ if the ‘wrong’ person responds (“Oh no, didn’t want some pimply nerd to lust after me! Wanted their hunky friend to ravish me on the floor!!”)
The lust aura is not at all the same as dressing provocatively. It’s been shown to be a whole magnitude above anything like dressing provocative. No outfit has ever made me disregard my natural inclination, which is what the lust aura is capable of.
Different order of magnitude, but not really different in character. Legally, we allow chocolate, flowers and candles and various other food and environmental items that facilitate mild states of arousal. Alcohol in moderation, etc. It’s only the items that are more powerful by an order of magnitude or more that elicit legal sanctions.
Clearly, Succubi magic would count among the latter.
I get what you’re saying, but the one major difference I’d argue is that most of what you stated involve choice on the recipients end. It’s not as big a deal because you can turn down those gifts and can turn down a drink. You cannot turn down the effects of the lust aura, it’s forced on you, unless I’ve missed somethin our lord Dave has stated on this topic. In a way, I think it may be more apt to say it’s similar to be forced into a drunken state, and there is a HUGE stigma against taking advantage of someone while they’re drunk (for good reason), which is what I feel should be the same case for the lust aura.
The only way it wouldn’t be (in my mind) is if they agreed to join in before the aura ahead of time.
I think you need to look up the Wikipedia article on succubi..
The succubi of GP do not conform strictly to folklore. I wouldn’t look to any source besides Dave for this.
“The succubus equivalent of a high five” is really more of a low five.
If you catch my drift.
But still over the head of the succubus, which can be either good or bad depending on your pain tolerance and how much pressure results in pleasure rather than pain.
Those crazy succubi and alien women … they’re altogether oooky … (snap, snap).
Groan…
….moan
(Snap, snap)
Get boned
Heh heh, was just thinking that Cora either has caught inter-stellar beamed broadcasts of either the TV show, cartoon or movies, or Dabbles has sent her the boxed set of all three :D
Poor Math, his porno sense is probably off the charts right about now.
If you think that was something, you should try an incubi handshake…
None of those, have yet to be shown. Also Incubi are a modern invention, or at least the concept is.
So are comic books, and all of their conventions.
Within the supernatural as depicted in the superhero genre as a whole, incubi aren’t particularly rare.
That is a more modern invention, at least the concept is.
In a lot of fiction, an “Incubus” is just a succubus using a polymorph spell on herself so they can seduce a hetero woman more easily. And Dabbler’s verified that a “Default male” form succubus I.E. an Incubus isn’t a thing in this universe.
One example is in Piers Anthony’s “pornucopia” where a succubus refers to shapechanging to a male form as “Incubating”
Yes, traditionally an Incubus couldn’t impregnate a human woman unless he/she had first received living sperm through intercourse with a man, while in the shape of a Succubus. Succubi and Incubi were seen as two sides of the same being.
In which case, of course, (s)he wouldn’t be a parent to the resulting child at all, but merely the vessel through which the man fathered the child with the woman. Sort of a demonic in vitro fertilisation.
The demonic essence infects the sperm. It is more a case of they can’t produce the delivery system for cellular cross (sperm cells), but they can like a virus erase the DNA in said cells, insert their own, and then impregnate the woman.
Keeping in mind this myth popped up around the same time period where it was commonly believed that men ejaculated tiny fully formed babies into women to grow. So it became more like they believed the demon was eating the baby and then putting its own in the capsule. Like a Changeling with extra steps.
Adapt and update the folklore and you can get, the above with the cells being stripped of data and being used as a template by a parasitic organism that just can’t produce its own semen and sperm cells so steals those of another species and then using protein disguise has that same species carry its young.
It was also the time when nuns were forbidden any contact with males, other than the priests, so they had to cum up with an explanation for the wealthy parents for why their precious daughter suddenly became a mother in a chaste nunnery
yep, this was one of those eyebrow raising demons “immune to exorcisms” and targeted nuns and friars.
Its not unlike all those wild monsters used as excuses for women and men running off with someone despite their family’s wishes.
Honestly, to get Sydney higher in the panel, all you had to do was have the flight ball missing from over her head. The rest could be inferred. And almost more amusing, since she’s floating off the ground and *still* shorter than Maxima.
Slightly Off Topic: What’s the difference between the character list and the tags? Why are there numbers in the tags? And why is she halo in one and sydney in the other?
Dagonell
I think the numbers in the character tags are for when the character tags get updated as we learn new things about the characters’ abilities. Like the early pages don’t list Halo’s orbs’ abilities before we learn them in the story.
No, it’s just that there is a limit to how many pages can be in each character tag. Sydney did turn into Halo where she introduced herself in the press as The Mighty Halo, but she already had 3 sydney tags and now has 3 Halo tags.
It’s what Magatha said: stages of tags to correspond with stages of information received. There isn’t any limit to how many pages can be given a particular tag (or if there is, none have reached it yet), but there is a limit to what you want the reader to be able to read from it at any one particular time.
The character list has to be consistent throughout, so it always uses the same name. The tags determine what shows up in the Who’s Who at the side, so they have to be able to differentiate according to what’s been revealed (e.g. the abilities of the green air orb) to avoid spoilers.
Max, Max, Max… Methinks the lady doth protesteth too much…
I’m not so sure why though. She didn’t seem to mind Cora and Dabs kissing… but the idea they may have had sex right there in front of everyone seems to have embarrassed her. I’m not so sure that Max is homophobic as she is of the mind that sexual encounters of any kind should be conducted behind closed doors. In other words, is she bothered by their public display or is Max hot and bothered by it and is angry that it might show everyone there a side of herself she doesn’t want seen?
This whole episode has uncovered a human side of Max. Her reaction at the perceived loss of Sydney when Dabbler was making cookies when she just backed up against the wall and slid down it… You could see the frustration at not being able to do anything and the hurt shown by her facial expression, showing a side of herself that to this point anyway she seems to want to suppress.
Well, the idea of two people having sex right in front of everyone is embarrassing to most people. Sex is suppossed to be a private thing; otherwise it would be as ordinary as breathing or eating, and just about as exciting.
Well to Cora what Max said could also be misconstrued. They are not in public, they are inside behind a the outer building doors and a security checkpoint. So still not accurate enough. They are also among what I would consider casual to more than casual friends.
So, obvious misunderstanding. Chill out Max and calmly explain.
So yeah, we are such prudes and repressed Dirtians as well.
Ah, there goes DaveB, once again flexing his skills of knowing the best ways to tickle my cheesecakebone.
Yes, there was no way of saying that that couldn’t be inferred incorrectly, and I said it anyway.
IME, in a culture, sexual exclusivity seems like one of the main correlates of prudishness. In a subculture or social group in which one is not found, neither is the other. In an individual person, however, the main correlates of prudishness are less clear – but I think a big one is often some level of sexual frustration.
Which makes some sense in Max’s case. Even if there are no – erm – physical problems on account of her having a bullet-proof physique that appears to be as hard as metal, she is (A) active-duty military, which puts a serious strain on any potential romance, (B) intimidating as Hell from the point of view of most guys, (C) likely to be inexperienced with romance AT ALL (remember how old she was when she had the little incident? A bunch of people start earlier, but a bunch more get that old without going on their first date….) and (D) likely to have a big psychological barrier there, for all of the above ‘real-ish’ reasons plus probably a dozen or more dumb ones she’s probably made up, which is the way these things usually happen.
Also, IIRC there’s no evidence in-comic yet as to whether she’s androsexual, gynosexual, or both, or neither.
Except that’s just silly to say.
“Prude” is merely an outgroup term for a person with moral and ethical views on the proper time and place for sexual manifestations, from the point of view of a group that believes in having no limits on overt sexual manifestations.
(Very hard to state that without embedding a moral viewpoint…. I think I got it pretty well.)
If a (sub)group has no limits on PDA, then they also tend to have no limits on WHO you have PDA with, and the claim is close to tautology. Further, such licentious subgroups are extremely rare and fleeting in the grand scheme of things. Thus, to someone in these rare groups everyone ELSE is a “prude”.
On the converse, exclusivity of PDA renders PDA to be more of a private act than a public act, thus leading to limits on when and where it is appropriate. From the point of view of someone without social filters, this might be seen as the behavior of a “prude”… except such people would still react poorly to others pulling down their pants and pooping in the living room, or doing other biological functions that happen to seem “icky”, and about which they DID have functional social filters.
Well explained
Allow me to offer you a blessing that someone gave to me years ago. It’s the most beautiful thing ever.
*ahem*
May you have a boring move.
That’s pretty much the polar opposite of saying “May you live in intere…”
I dare not complete that sentence, for obvious reasons.
“Would you two mind? It’s rude to do things potentially involving bodily fluids in areas that the janitors need to clean up later.” It’s about making extra work for some poor schlub, that’s all.
DaveB perhaps you can put a call out for guest strips to use as fillers during your move?
Fan art. Guest strips. Etc.
This would let you build up a few comic buffer too, in case of emergencies.
Good idea! I still want to find out how the Arianna v/ s the Bear thing turned out.
DaveB – cast page shows tags div name=”notables” and
div name=”popout” between characters. I get it on android using chrome. It also looks like the page is malformed slightly cuz of it.
That’s malformed HTML in the page source. It shows up in many browsers because it doesn’t conform to the W3C specifications for proper HTML. I don’t hold it against Dave because he’s an artist and storyteller, not a web site coding guru.
It’s more likely to be a poor auto-coder. For example, the construct “</div name=”notables”>” is not one that a human would make accidentally.
You only need to suss out HTML produced by some word-processors to see the disasters and catastrophes awaiting the unwary.
That’s meant to be ” & lt ; / div name= & # 8221 ;notables & # 8221; & gt ; “
Humans do have some strange quirks nowadays. Not always mind, if you have the racial memories about various earlier societies. Ancient Egyptians and Romans were much less prudish, for example. Especially at religious ceremonies and Coliseum events.
Well, if you can fly, getting on eye level with the person you’re speaking to shouldn’t be a problem. Of course, since Sydney clearly isn’t holding any orb, she must be standing on her toes, though I don’t see why she would prefer that. Maybe Max is bending down?
Or, Maxi is bending down to be polite, or simply because she is experiencing a Sydney-migraine
It’s been 52 days….so who’s the newest recruit?
And do we finaly get to meet the parents?
And do they have a bumpersticker that says My daughter is a Superhero?
And when do we get to see the new comic shop?
I think we might finally see her Human parents when they learn she has finally returned. Wonder if they’ll be the “OMG WE ARE SO PROUD OF OUR LITTLE GIRL!!!” type or the “Why didn’t you tell up you had super powered orbs?! now if your brother Morty had of gotten powers he would have told me RIGHT AWAY…” kind…
Her parents know. She called them way back when they had the press demo.
She called them in the Restaurant after the press conference, butt yes, they have been informed
They have been informed that Sydney has the Orbs & have spoken to her since, but as far as we can tell she hadn’t seen them between the press conference/restaurant rumble & getting sucked through the portal. THEN she was on the wrong side of a 51 day time skip…
I’m thinking they might show up once they learn she’s home…
If her parents kept the same naming scheme Sydney would have a brother names Darwin and a sister named Adelaide.
(Luckily, Sydney got the alliterative name, which qualified her to be eligible for superhero status)
“And do they have a bumpersticker that says My daughter is a Superhero?”
If so, they may as well put the full version on, instead:
“My daughter is a Superhero, please kidnap me and hold me to ransome, in your diabolical scheme”
Yeah but this is a sort of Neo-Deconstrustionist era looking comic at this point. (Meaning it has deconstructionist comic tropes and views but isn’t held back by being an extension of a continuity that extends back into earlier eras, so gets to be less wonky with the rules/less self contradicting or not at all contradicting)
In short, in this sort of setting that would be like saying “My daughter is a cop” on your car invites the Mafia to hold you hostage to gain leverage over the cop. Or my daughter is a soldier would invite terrorists to kidnap you.
In comics going back Dark, Bronze, Silver, Gold; even it only made sense for the Super Hero to not reveal their secret identity as more of an escapism for the reader (be a normal person by day, a dashing rogue by night) sort of mindset. With excuses made in universe like Spider-Man afraid the villains will go after his loved ones. But that also only works if the super-hero is a lone wolf type.
Having say, Mysterio go after Aunt May to get back at Spider-Man, only to find himself down the barrel of the Fantastic Four, Avengers, and X-men as Spider-Man has friends; would be an incentive not to mess with the loved ones of a Super-Hero. Not that knowing someone’s secret identity automatically means you know everyone they know; you’d still have to do some research.
If anything it could turn into a case of *don’t mess with that lady, her husband is an MMA champion* for the average villain.
Yea, good points. The only difference being that one cop or soldier is pretty much like another. Whereas individual superheroes are each very different to any of their peers. As such anyone with such a bumper sticker will invariably get asked “which hero?” by anyone they talk to. And that will then lead to (in this case) Sydney’s parents identity being common knowledge.
Whilst they might get interviewed on TV, so people might see them once or twice, so it is unlikely that someone would be able to easily track down their location from that. However it is a different matter when they can easily be spotted by anyone when driving down the street, thanks to said sticker. A discreet bit of surveillance and they can be followed to their home.
Even in our non-super world kidnap and ransom is a risk, and those at particular risk (celebrities, richer folks or those related to politicians, as examples) do need to take extra precautions that the average person does not. Being the relative of a super hero not just adds to the degree of prominence, like that of a celebrity, but it does also attract the attention of
There is no point trying to coerce one particular police officer or solider, unless needing a very specific task done (like turning a blind eye at a security check point). But if you are a super villain and there is only one super cop who can counter you, then gaining leverage over them specifically becomes critical.
So it may be a trope, but it is actually one which bears up under scrutiny. It is just the degree of risk which may not be as high in this comic versus say Aunt May getting kidnapped every other week.
And this comic can focus on the mundane. Take for example the daily life of a politician in the UK during the time of troubles (when the IRA were bombing UK targets), it required checking under their car before every trip, to make sure that a bomb had not been installed. So the daily inconveniences and precautions, which Sydney and her family may have to follow, would impact on their personal lives more than Doc Oc smashing in their windows, looking for them.
There is sort of a unwritten rule among the more sane of the criminal bent that has to do with kids etc.
Eg “Dont mess with kids” (rape, violence etc), because even criminals have kids. – The ones that do those kinds of things have a very low existence expectancy in prison – if they make it that far.
This did come up early in the comic when Sydney was being warned they don’t have secret identities and she’d be an instant celebrity and it would affect her family and friends as well.
It is unlikely we’d have a lone hero that can defeat them scenario for a villain as Sydney falls more into the start off as a group dynamic hero so it would be more a vendetta against the team.
That said, the bumper sticker would be moot if a villain wants to find them. Remember, no secret identities; they can be looked up, their names. Any villain with a good intelligence team could track their name, look up local records, find living relatives. Same problem they had with the reporters, less than a day and the reporters found out where she lived (she advertised her business not her apartment address).
The bumper sticker would just be a local thing; and not really impact anything as a villain that wanted to target the family and friends of these supers could just go online look up their names, do some local phone number look ups, ect… and find them.
But that’s the thing, the villains are criminals. Average criminal wouldn’t think of that, any villain willing to try that is a terrorist level threat and would not just be dealing with one of the team but all of them.
This reminds me of the GI Joe episode where Cobra went after the family of the Joes, I found it odd even as a kid that the Joes had secret files for their family as they were an anti-terrorist task force and not really super heroes.
On the flip side, her parents could feel safer by getting a bumper sticker saying
“Don’t kidnap me. My daughter has a very particular set of skills.”
“Aren’t you Lois Lane? The one always being saved by Superman?”
yeah, there is a flip side to the old cliché.
One option for the pay issues: Pay the real time (time that passed for agency), up to, but not exceeding some amount. In the case that they get transported to the past: No they don’t get double pay, unless they do something specific for the agency, but that would also open up the possibility for them to meet themselves, which is probably against the laws of physics in some way.
In the TNG episode “Cause and Effect” the Enterprise gets stuck in a time loop that they finally break out of and then find that 17 days have passed elsewhere. Do they get paid for the time they were in the loop? Also, during the loop they died on active duty multiple times before they broke out of it. Do they get to claim whatever the Federation has set aside for personnel killed in action? Can they count each time?
What about a person like “the Doctor” who always travels in time?
You would almost have to have a ‘real time clock’ vs ‘personal experienced time’ that was on you all the time.
How would you even get close to paying him what he is worth?
Eg. “I just went back in time and saved the Universe… Thrice, and that was on your Saturday.”
No. For Grrl powered, they are salaried. They don’t get overtime. If they aren’t dead at the end, they don’t get to claim whatever got set aside.
Bringing this up now so I can link back to it when the time comes. Obviously Max can’t date within the unit so any possible love interest is either going to be a civilian Super, or one from another country’s similar unit. So which way does Max play? The reason I’m asking is because I don’t think Max physically can engage in that kind of activity with a non-super without potentially killing them at orgasm (see “Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex” by Niven for a more thorough dissertation on the subject), and everyone deserves an emotionally and physically satisfying love life. And her disability restricts her potential selection of lovers even before the further restrictions of the UCMJ.
Just putting myself in the “Get Max a (Boy)(Girl)friend” club before the final page of the comic.
Pretty sure Max is heterosexual. Evidant one: https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/comic/grrl-power-521-to-no-dress/
Evidant two: she can resist Dabbler. She doesn’t even flinch from her.
Sydney is an only child (thank [$DEITY]) as shown in the scene in the boardroom after the interview when they were discussing the desirability of getting Sydney in ARC.
And this reply to Screwball somehow got detached from the parent comment.
Harem’s recording this to send to Math for ‘training’ purposes.
I am really liking this new coloring method.
It was only intended as a temporary time-saver, whilst DaveB is busy moving house. But it is proving to be popular!
the problem I have always wondered about with women that geyt their super powers at a young age, is about the Hymen. do they have one? and if so How do you stretch it/get past it?
It would entirely depend on what power(s) they get
And the Hymen is designed to be ‘got past’, that’s like asking “how are they able to get their larynx to vibrate enough to allow vocal sounds?”
Yes, they need to wait…. to actually get some tickets and footage sold, duh. They could totally finance Archon with Dabbler’s actions alone.