Grrl Power #633 – The universe’s buttholes = X+1
Sydney’s right. I spent very little effort on that sound effect. Honestly, I started coming up with some noises, but I was like, VROUNCH? SHRAAKZZZ? GLUDVOR! Actually, that one sounds like an alien’s last name. Well, it would if it had a lot of unnecessary apostrophes in it. G’luD’voR!
The relationship between the Skybreaker and the sigil on the floor will probably be explained at some point. It’s not honestly critical to the plot, but I know some people were wondering about it. For now just assume that magic is complicated and allows convenient storytelling hooks.
Hah. I just realized I drew Sydney’s hair blowing in the wind even though she’s in her bubble. Maybe she farted. In terror, at the universe being torn a new one? A terror fart, yeah. Even though she’s being characteristically glib.
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Really? The worst? I kinda liked it. It’s a very difficult to imagine sound… Maybe like a giant toilet flushing reality away.
Max was complaining that Dabbler was using excessive force against their opponent. Then she goes and shoves that same person’s head half way into a stone floor.
well sciona is still superpowered though maybe not who knows i’d be more concerned about the ragged bleeding stump that was once a leg.
It’s already well-established that Sciona was barely slowed down by performing high-speed structural stress testing on a couple of stone walls. It’s wildly unlikely that this will damage her, and a significant amount of force is clearly required to restrain her.
As soon as the super powers wear off Max will accidentally turn her to pulp applying the same pressure.
Max: “Well, that was easier than last time!”
The orbs were playing with her hair?
Maybe she felt left out with everyone else’s hair flowing in the breeze and spun up her own orbs for a moment to replicate the effect?
Multidimensional force localizing as atmospheric disturbance…and its bypassing her forcefield affecting the air inside it as well.
Somehow I would have thought it would be “The very fabric of the Universe”, but maybe that’s what it would sound like in our Universe…
Well, everyone please welcome the cosmic horrors that lives in between realities, who knows what form they will choose to take.
*meow*
TRENT! COME HOME! IT’S TIME FOR SUPPER!!!
What’s next from the hall of rogues page? :)
indeed,
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Guu-many_eyes_2782.jpg
Why does the old joke about a “Fart in a spacesuit” come to mind? Shouldn’t the ‘rending the very fabric of the universe’ sound be a “RRRIPPPPPPP”? Hm, that sounds like a fart too.
Man, sometimes bad things just have to happen in expensive suits.
god i like seeing her eating some ground.
4 books, 8 potato chip bags, and 3 pants that were four sizes too small but you managed to squeeze into anyway all giving way at once two inches from your ear.
Or… Just open this four times:
https://listenonrepeat.com/?v=W6RLdjT7eBc#Opening_a_bag_of_chips_sound_effect
This eight times:
https://listenonrepeat.com/?v=s4G-wZb95QA#Paper_Ripping__Sound_Effects
And this three times:
https://listenonrepeat.com/?v=o7kT_vACNg8#Tearing_jeans%2F_Rei%C3%9Fen_Jeans%2F_Rozrywanie_d%C5%BCins%C3%B3w_SOUND_EFFECTS
Then you have a clue what cosmic ripping sounds are like.
You have your bags and your books swapped. ::eats a page while reading a potato chip::
And now Sydney’s shield is up again.
DaveB, you may really want to look into Sydney’s erratic shielding behavior. She’ll put it up when they enter a significant life-threatening situation, then in the next comic it’s down again, despite them still BEING IN that situation. Then she’ll find an apparent lair-destroying explosive trap and put it up, then in the next comic it’s down again despite there being NO reason why she would possibly have dropped it, considering the circumstances. And now it’s back up without her having raised it.
Umm, she raised it because that’s the only way to fire her Gatling-laser
She’s ADD, no explanation for spastic behavior needed.
I think that sometimes the camera(point of view of the comic page panel) is inside the shield so we don’t see the shield edges.
And . . . Astra steps through the portal. Just kidding; she doesn’t show up in Sydney’s timeline for months yet.
Ummm, Astra Furst from Astro City?
Nope, Hope Corrigan, aka Astra, from the “Wearing The Cape” series.
Heya, M. G., good to see you! Big fan. Backed your RPG.
Loved your Books M.G.H. I have been recommending them left and right :D
Yup, this is definitely a “pants to be darkened” moment…
“Bring me my red shirt and my brown pants!”
Wet Terror Farts Reason #23 for Emergency Pants. Reason #2 for wet Wipes
When the Universe’s very fabric is torn asunder the effect most noticed is waving anime hair. This is the same winds that blow in a vacuum in an anime space opera making the hero’s hair flutter and wave. Usually caused by a fourth wall being breached.
Are we still so sure Sci is the bad guy here? Before any one starts, NOT saying she’s not a totally nasty piece of work, butt what crime did she commit that warranted a (failed) execution?
Remember, the Council is full of monsters and other predators that enjoy preying on hyu-mons, and saw no reason not to ‘feast’ at the table, with the ‘excuse’ that the ‘snack’ was a Super with the ability to refill any container with any fluid (like that makes it better?), unless it is an ability that doesn’t require conscious effort, what happens if, one day, they take a little too much and he goes unconscious? Oops! Oh well, there is another 7 billion hyu-mons, maybe there will be another like him?
Also remember, the same one who had no problems with just ‘slaking her thirst’ also thought it would be ‘fun’ to attempt to ‘sneak into’ ARCHON-HQ
Sci did attack The Council with an attempt to kill and slash or maim as many as possible (they attempted to kill her first)
Sci did attack and Capri-sun Pixelicious and attempt to force a blood donation from Sydney (they broke into her property and attacked her first)
Sci did attack Sydney’s team on the roof (they were planning on breaking into her property)
Sci did blow up Coot (Doctor Chuckles is the one who brought him in, and the whole group were in agreement with killing someone who would have killed them in an instant if not for the Veil)
Sci did smash Wyrmie’s face into a death field, and then used his face as a glove (SmugD provoked her, okay, that’s stretching it as a valid response… )
Sci did slice up Wyrmoot (he was in possession of her property… again, not really much of an acceptable, for most of the peanut gallery, response)
Sci did deflect an attack into a bridge (after Ms ‘Leave no witnesses’ fired a kill shot, not even a warning shot, or ordering her to stop)
Yes, Sci has acted extremely violently, and more than a little rashly, butt always in response to another’s actions
Should she be locked up and giving some sort of counselling for her anger problems? Probbaly
Should she be brutally attacked and treated like this? No. Fucking. WAY!!
how about multiple counts of murder, attempted murder and battery? stealing a WMD from the government?
Already covered the attempted murder and battery (maybe refresh memory about the ‘multiple counts of murder’?)
What Government? The Council is no Government, certainly not an official publically recognized one
Did you even bother to read any of what you replied to? o_O
Or did you simply ‘skip to the end’?
That’s quite the spin you’re putting on things. But then you do have a long history of trying to convoluted twist everything to make Max out to be the bad guy.
No, Max has done a good enough job of that all on her gold-plated own, every one else has gone out of their way to justify it
It doesn’t take a lot of twisting to see Maxima’s bad side. She abducted and interrogated a member of the Council for thought crimes, after all. And her justification was essentially “We can do it, so we’re doing it.” A might-makes-right stance will always be an unpopular one* when it comes from a purported agent of the US government and so obviously violates US law and the Constitution.
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* With me at least. Authoritarians may be perfectly happy with this kind of jackbooted thug policy.
I don’t recall her abducting anyone for thought crimes. The closest we saw to that was when she strongly requested that a certain mage come be tested so they can make certain she doesn’t accidentally destroy reality (and the mage agreed because… well, that’s in everyone’s best interests).
Not that Maxima doesn’t have her faults. She’s overly aggressive, she has a chip on her shoulder about sexuality, and she’s REALLY easy to tease (I loved that Muslim teammate tricking her into an anger reaction shot… which is just the latest, because she keeps falling for it). But professionally she’s been pretty good about everything she does.
The not-mage agreed, because Maxima got in her personal space, laid hands on her, and said that it was going to happen. There was no “suggestion” involved, strongly or otherwise. It was an arrest.
Or, more accurately, a brief detaining. Neither of which are abduction in the eyes of the law, nor when done within it, are they morally as such. And, again, possible threat to the world. Kind of her job to see the situation investigated.
Even a brief detaining is illegal when there is no cause. No amount of “The fellow officer from an allied agency who we requested join us on this mission did something we didn’t understand, so we figured that was due cause to arrest and interrogate her” will ever be any amount of cause.
No amount of wild, baseless speculations or thought crimes will ever constitute cause. Face it, at best Maxima panicked and allowed her imagination to run away with her. For that Maxima should be severely reprimanded and have this reprimand be placed in her service record. A promotion to Colonel would be almost impossible with such a mark on her record. The Council and Krona should receive a full apology from either Archon or the US government, or both, for their high handed actions regarding their personnel. At worst, well it’s much, much worse.
Actually, the brief detainment
1) had a cause – potential threat to the world
2) helping figure out safe versions of the power, if needed
3) County of Riverside v. McLaughlin, 1991. Legal.
Additionally, it was not “Something we don’t understand.” Indeed, Dabbler was able to help there significantly. It was, she did something __that presented an unknown risk that was potentially limitless in scope.__ And it was NOT an arrest and interrogate. It was, at worst, a brief detaining so that Dabbler could study and check that there wasn’t a threat.
There was no panic in Maxima’s demeanor. Just assessment of facts and as quick a check of potential dangers as possible.
3) By which I mean, it was both a short duration AND she was provided – BEFORE the brief detainment (which was not in a cell, but closer in practice to a guest) – with a cause. Namely, being a (self-acknowledged) potential threat to reality.
Agreed. Krona confessed twice to not being in proper control of her power. Therefore there was no speculation, that she was a hazard. Further Krona agreed with Maxima’s analysis and accepted the proposed course of action.
Dabbler was able to analyse the power successfully and guide Krona on how to Krona was satisfied with the outcome and raised no complaint at any point. Plus Krona is a semper vigilantis, who we know are all also federal agents of one sort or another.
In other words Krona’s day job (when she is not being a world-leader) is that of a monster hunter. With all the training of (for example) an F.B.I. special agent. So she is fully aware of all her legal rights and is not some shrinking violet who would be afraid to exercise them.
Plus, quite frankly, she is more powerful than Maxima, so would not be afraid, in any event. What she was though was worried that she was not in control of her power. Which is the thing that I have always found weird about this line of argument.
Krona wanted a solution. Her aim was to do it herself. However Maxima persuaded her that she would do so better with Archon’s assistance.
Now I appreciate that the trigger was Maxima insisting on this, rather than framing it as a request. However do bear in mind that Archon have not just been handed a police role. The press conference detailed their mandate (which clearly must have been set up under a law given, as one example, the exemption set up for the comatose opossum).
Their role quite obviously also extends to that of a regulator. Whilst this is not something that is normal, as you usually have a civil body regulating an industry, or some other aspect of society, with the police being a separate entity enforcing any decisions and rulings they make, it is intrinsic to what Arianna was describing.
It is Archon’s job to assess any supernatural or extraordinary threats (including such things as invasions by other countries and natural disasters) and take whatever actions are necessary to counter them. Now it is fair to complain that gives them far too much leeway and scope for abuse. However it is the mandate that has been given to them, and Maxima was operating well within it.
It is though a very logical solution for society to take in a world as depicted. The normal world is fairly predictable. So you can split the roles of regulator and enforcement. Events tend to unfold fairly slowly. If civil agencies remain on the ball they can react to events, or predict them, in time to debate and contemplate the best course of action.
Katrina showed that this does not always work mind. It should have though, given that the events were predicted years in advance (in general) and a week in advance (in particular). Supers though have powers which can have that level of devastation invoked in seconds. And their nature is unknown, so the predictability is far more vague.
As such the two roles need to work together in a crisis situation. Which can arise in seconds, without warning. So the two agencies would need to permanently work together. As such a preferred solution would be to have regulator/FEMA officials embedded within Arc-SWAT units, in order to handle their respective roles.
Sadly they would get killed. Or provide a considerable burden on Arc-SWAT, in keeping them alive. Essentially they would have a ready supply of squishy hostages for super villains to threaten. There simply are not enough supers to have every role conducted by someone bullet-proof and/or super tough. Any such willing to work for the government are actually needed in the combat role.
So it is a compromise solution, but a sensible one, to grant Archon the broad scope of powers outlined at the press conference.
Per the penultimate panel here. This indicates that there were more laws than just the one which has a specific restriction for supers. For example here:
Folks may think ‘but of course police do that’. However although Archon are conducting a policing role, they are distinct from state or city police forces, because they are a federal agency (they must be as they operate nation wide).
Whilst cops are expected to help with such situations, federal organisations either need to be invited in by the governor, or have a specifically legally created mandate to do such things automatically (for example FEMA).
Using the same line of logic, the act also covered the formation of Archon’s charter:
This is very broadly worded. It is not restricted to simply policing matters. Hence why I make the point, in my previous post, that Archon also have a regulatory role.
Note that this does not contradict the assertion made in the first link. Because that one is something which discriminates specifically against supers. Whereas having a broad mandate covering all ‘extraordinary threats’ does not just target supers.
For example mad scientists or any normal person who had picked up a device capable of generating an ‘extraordinary threat’ (a dirty bomb for example) would also be covered by this.
So Maxima is exercising her discretion granted to her by this mandate. It is not something a normal cop could do. Nor any other law enforcement agent. But Archon can intervene when it determines there is an extraordinary threat.
Further Pixel is one of Archon’s experts tasked with making such assessments. And we saw her berating Krona for the risks she was taking with space-time. So Maxima was not acting alone. Rather she had agreed with the conclusions that an expert in ‘extraordinary threats’ had made.
“abducted and interrogated” … do you mean, bringing Krona in for a short duration to verify she can’t break reality? Because that’s all that happened, and it was just an evaluation. And her justification was… oh, yeah. A power that could possibly create a reality-breaking paradox. Which would be very bad. And who had used said power, potentially recklessly? And her response was to just an evaluation to verify there’s no issue. No interrogations, just theory discussions with Dabbler.
In short, stop twisting things well out of shape. Maxima did no such thing as you’re accusing her of having done.
Oh, yeah, her justification was that Maxima invented within her own head some kind of horror story about “runaway powers,” and “universe destroyed,” and used that complete and utter fabrication as the excuse to do whatever she wanted to do.
It was not invented. The possibility was discussed EVEN BY KRONA. And it was not a justification for whatever – it was a justification for FURTHER INVESTIGATION to check out a potential threat to everyone, which includes the USA. Which is, her job.
Yup. Krona’s powers were clearly not operating as she believed they should. Given her claims, as to the extent of their power, that made them a very clear danger to all of reality. There was no inventing going on, simply a clinical analysis of the facts that Krona herself presented.
Most importantly Krona agreed with Maxima’s conclusions and the need for such investigation to be carried out. Which proved that she had indeed not understood the basis of her powers and was therefore not in proper control over them.
All in all Maxima did an extremely good job. Krona is now armed with the knowledge of how to use her powers correctly. Even if she is disappointed that she cannot accidentally KA-POOF the universe.
That is Sydney’s job, after all. ;-)
At no point ever did Krona state “My powers have the ability to destroy the universe!”
On the other hand:
Dabbler could destroy the Earth without much effort. She has the ability to tow asteroids, after all, and she has admitted to this heinous potential crime. She needs to be taken in for questioning, pronto! It’s within the Archon charter!
Sydney could destroy a city, or multiple cities, without much effort. She has the ability to fire off powerful blasts of energy, after all, and she has admitted to this heinous potential crime. She needs to be taken in for questioning, pronto! It’s within the Archon charter!
Maxima herself could destroy a city, or multiple cities, without much effort. She has the ability to fire off powerful blasts of energy, after all, and she has admitted to this heinous potential crime. She needs to be taken in for questioning, pronto! It’s within the Archon charter!
But only Krona was singled out for this special, jackbooted attention.
She acknowledged the possibility when Pixel asked, re: time magic. And, as noted, Krona’s power was demonstrably being used in ways that were risky, and which she acknowledged as such. Which means, you are factually wrong.
Maxima has enough control to not destroy cities, and be known as such.
Dabbler is currently being shadowed to make sure of things. And her powers are not the sort to accidentally do that.
Neither of them is recklessly using their powers in such a way. Krona potentially was.
Frankly, you’re twisting things so far out of fact that I can only conclude that you are hell-bent on hating Maxima irrationally (if you don’t like a characterization, that’s one thing. But your reasoning is just plain wrong.)
Well said Aura Guardian, on all points.
Regarding “possibly create a reality-breaking paradox,” all you are doing here is repeating Maxima’s thought crime and journey into fantasy. “Which would be very bad.” Oh, really? And exactly how do you know this? Based on what precedent? Based on what actual knowledge? And what’s bad, Egon?
Regarding “[Krona] had used said power, potentially recklessly,” you’re still just continuing down the thought crime route. Krona used her powers to save both Pixel and Sydney. Pixel probably from death, and Sydney definitely from death. When the member of an allied agency who you invited to participate in a joint mission with your team saves two of your team mates, your reaction usually isn’t expected to be to freak out, label the saving as “reckless,” and then arrest said savior of your personnel after making up things about her power set that you pulled straight out of your ass.
Saving pixel and sydney was mentioned, and she was thanked. But that does not change that she had ALREADY USED such powers in a reckless way. That is not thought-crime. A brief investigation is “risk to the entire world” assessment. Which outweighs two people by around 7 billion.
*claps response enthusiastically*
And, SHE DID NOT PULL THAT POTENTIAL RISK OUT OF HER ASS.
Even Krona acknowledged, before Maxima was there, that there was a VERY potential risk. To the tune of cancelling the checkpoint just in case because it was DEMONSTRABLY something not understood.
Also, you do realize that even if it somehow comes to pass that the Council is bad, the fact that Sciona opposes them does not make her good. She’s shown that she’s quite willing to ally with people with the intention of double-crossing and killing them in order to achieve her goals. That’s far worse than any of the imaginary crimes you accuse Maxima of.
Where have ever said that Sci is a good guy? o_O
Even re-stipulated that she’s a nasty piece of work
Wait wait wait, did you honestly say ‘imaginary crimes’? We have seen the things Maxi has done, she has even admitted to blowing up a Mosque!!!
They did, because the deeds are, indeed, imaginary. Or rather, their status as crimes is. The mosque, we have 0 info on other than “mostly” an accident, and cannot judge (hey, terrorists could have been using it as a base, or something – we cannot know at this time).
Then she wouldn’t be so defensive when her commanding officer mentions it
Not at all. The whole unit are fond of teasing each other and this is something that Maxima would not feel proud about, so is bound to be sensitive about it being raised (even if her boss is not normally one to tease her about it).
Rather if there was some outstanding legal action or investigation about it then Maxima would not have made a comment like ‘it was mostly an accident’.
If there were any repercussions, Maxima has served her punishment. If such had happened the tone of recounting it did not imply that there was anything serious. So either it was covered up on national security grounds (in which case her commander would not have mentioned it at all) or there was justification in her actions at the time.
Aura Guardian‘s example being both a likely scenario and one where collateral damage would be accepted, if it was necessary to save lives (just killing terrorists no, but taking out ones who were posing an immediate threat to people yes).
“Sci did attack The Council with an attempt to kill and slash or maim as many as possible (they attempted to kill her first)”
– If I remember properly the council does represent their people. And I admit I am making an assumption here, but the members of the council likely represent the supernatural “community” they stem from. So it stands to reason they keep the laws. Sciona broke those laws. (We also don’t know how long ago, in the past a death sentence might have been the norm, perhaps less so now.. but the council knows how dangerous Sciona can be.)
“Sci did attack and Capri-sun Pixelicious and attempt to force a blood donation from Sydney (they broke into her property and attacked her first)”
– It’s not clear if Sciona or Pixel attacked first. Nor is it clear if Sciona actually owns the property. If it’s derelict property i’m quite sure the government official (Pixel) has a right to at least inspect the property if there’s reasonable doubt there is someone there who attacked another government official (Max was at the council meeting, thus in the line of fire)
“Sci did attack Sydney’s team on the roof (they were planning on breaking into her property)”
– See above, most of my argument on the one before this one is valid for this as well. Their government agents inspecting a derelict property that likely houses someone who attacked a government agent.
“Sci did smash Wyrmie’s face into a death field, and then used his face as a glove (SmugD provoked her, okay, that’s stretching it as a valid response… )”
– There were alternatives to this and she knew it. She’s showing she’s willing to murder another person just to get what she wants.
“Sci did slice up Wyrmoot (he was in possession of her property… again, not really much of an acceptable, for most of the peanut gallery, response)”
– Unclear whether or not the item was hers to begin with. But I very much doubt it was.
“Sci did deflect an attack into a bridge (after Ms ‘Leave no witnesses’ fired a kill shot, not even a warning shot, or ordering her to stop)”
– You got me here, Max should not have fired a blast like that unless she was sure it would hit home. She likely got a brief on how strong Sci is and made a judgement call (It’s what she’s got her rank for.)
“Yes, Sci has acted extremely violently, and more than a little rashly, butt always in response to another’s actions
Should she be locked up and giving some sort of counselling for her anger problems? Probbaly
Should she be brutally attacked and treated like this? No. Fucking. WAY!!”
– Max has, during this fight, definitely been holding back. We have seen in past pages how strong she can be if she goes all out. (Remember that MOST of the blood on Sci is from the tube and she is likely not as badly wounded (before the railshot anyway) as she appears to be. She is being wrestled to the ground by Max. And Max is not happy with the Railshot mind you. Sci in the meantime has shown no such tendency to hold back and has tried to kill multiple people in this fight.
Maxima’s blast did hit home. Up until that point there was absolutely no indication that it was possible to reflect energy blasts like that. Based on the information she had, Max’s actions were sound.
Thank you for reminding me that Maxima, and/or the author, is hardly consistent about these things. IGetStronger had en eye shot out, and Maxima never bothered to reprimand Peggy or appear unhappy that they had resorted to maiming in order to win. And at the time the eye was shot out they had no way of knowing if it would put out an eye or blow his head clean off. She herself took off an arm, but that was later on in the fight when things had ramped up a bit.
Vehemence took a car with grenades to the head / neck and didn’t even flinch plus her adaptable powers also likely allow her to have a good way to judge how strong someone is and Vehemence hurt her through her full on defense overcharge. She didn’t call for the eye shot untill Vehemence had given her the information she needed to judge whether this person is a big threat or not.
Yes, Max did limb the guy badly. But she could have also gone for a headshot first. She knows in a superfight there is a high chance of a non-violent take-down not working.
Peggy was obeying Maxima’s order:
As Hydyx correctly observes Peggy made a good judgement call about how tough Vehemence was. Further, even if she estimated it incorrectly, she had been authorised to use lethal force. On top of which she was ‘watching Maxima’s back’.
A non-super materially contributing to a battle between two of the strongest supers on Earth is to be praised, not condemned.
It is a shame that, at times, you go out of your way to try and twist every action (or inaction) to cast the characters in a bad light. Your constructive criticism is so much better when you use an objective approach.
It is a shame that, at times, you go out of your way to try to discredit others by characterizing them using weasel words such as “twist.” I don’t just lay out some theory and walk away. I provide plenty of canon detail and other exposition to justify my positions.
If the writing was good, then the rules of engagement wouldn’t change on the fly. If “… engage at will and watch each other’s backs. Keep it non lethal if you can” was perfectly ok against IGetStronger*, then it should be perfectly valid against Sciona. But no, Maxima pitched a fit in the middle of combat instead of holding her critique for a private conversation. All she accomplished was to undermine her own authority when a civilian contractor can make her look like a fool by brushing off her complaint with a laugh (and “Oh, what?” has got to be the best way of conveying “I don’t give a fuck about you or whatever you’re yelling at me about” that I’ve seen in a while) and reminding her that it wasn’t a kill shot and that the target can regenerate.
* Especially considering what they knew about each. IGetStronger was an unknown with no priors who notified Archon to look after the telekinetic guy because he felt some ribs go, indicating a respect for life. Sciona is a known murderer with a history with The Council. But the shot to the eye and the removal of an arm against IGetStronger was sanctioned but Dabblers shin shot wasn’t? Get real.
Your complaint would bear a lot more weight if it weren’t literally in the same paragraph as you doing exactly what he accused you of doing, and which you were claiming not to do. He was not denying that you add constructive stuff to it. He acknowledged that. His words make quite clear that twisting of actions is in addition to your reasoning.
More voices don’t make you correct. Crowds are full of idiots, and you’ve just voluntarily identified yourselves for the rest of the people. Your opinions do not impact how the law works. You can bark up that tree all day long and all you’ll end up is worn out, hoarse, and just as wrong as when you started barking.
Woof!
The fact of the matter is that Maxima, as the ranking agent in the field, is the one to make judgement calls. And will, when the time comes, likely have to report and explain all her actions to her own superior officers who will render judgement on whether or not her actions were warranted.
Maxima gave the order for the eye-shot and didn’t scold Peggy because as the commanding officer she made the call and she knows that if the shot had taken Vehemence down she would have had to face the music from her commander.
Max has also, in the past, alluded to the fact that she has fought other supers. It’s likely this experience is why she is allowed to lead because she has rank. Even so, in the military, authorising lethal force is no small matter.
Dabbler using lethal force without authorization is a clear break in the chain of command and as a consequence will force Max to reprimand Dabbler or even refuse to take her along on missions despite her obvious utility. Dabbler would obviously counter with “She can regenerate, taking off her leg wasn’t any worse then breaking it in her case.”
Should Dabbler be called on to face the music, her account of the encounter and her knowledge of blood magic should give her some protection against the consequences however she wouldn’t be held entirely unacountable.
Is Sciona really a bad guy? I refer you to her confrontation in Deus’ office where she attempts to rob him of what she wanted – not to buy or bargain, purely to steal it because she wanted it. Then when Maxima meets with him afterwards she states pointedly that Sciona represents a major threat. Then we learn that Sciona agreed to Deus’ bargain… and there’s this exchange when she finds out he once banged a Draugr.
“Aren’t they super evil?”
“Aren’t you?”
Then we find out she wanted the Brane Ripper to do something… horrible. And when she sees Scooter (who is not one, but TWO people that she betrayed and murdered, meaning she had zero inhibitions about murdering her mugging victims. “You have it, I want it, you don’t matter and I do.”).
Then, when she deflects that attack upon the bridge, it’s after she DELIBERATELY HEADS THERE. Maxima even growls her intentions to prevent that from happening. Meaning that Sciona intended to destroy it as a distraction all along. She then smugly reveled in how heroes always let themselves get distracted by innocent bystanders… meaning she’s probably done it before.
Everything we’ve seen about her indicates that she is a sociopathic, self-centered, amoral monster who warrants an immediate “kill or capture on sight” from anyone with the power to do so, and a “run like hell and find someone more powerful” from everyone else.
Don’t know what your definition of a “bad guy” is, but responding with potentially lethal force to another’s actions when those actions are ones like trespassing or having something you want is usually illegal in pretty much any jurisdiction.
“Should she be locked up and giving some sort of counselling for her anger problems?”
And how exactly does one accomplish this? Ask her nicely?
So, someone breaking into your house, you saying you are not allowed to defend your home? o_O
Also, and this is something everyone skips over: did admit that she was a nasty piece of work, just saying that maybe she’s not in the wrong here
Defend yourself until the threat is neutralized, then call the authorities to take custody of the trespasser?
Yes. Capture them, imprison them, hang them upside down to milk them of blood? Only in Texas.
Also, was everyone that was being milked of blood in that base “guilty” of trespassing?
We don’t know if they were or were not another Council hit-squad, or maybe, they were the ones responsible for Sci losing her original body
Once more i’d like to point out that we don’t know whether or not she actually owns the factory or this place. We do know that she sent a hit squad which endangered the life of Max and Sydney, both are government agents. She acts outside the law, whether it’s the law of the council or the law of the country she is in she has attempted to murder someone or outright murdered people on multiple accounts and has shown a reckless disregard for the lives of those she considers lesser beings.
These actions ensure that whatever governing body gets involved has probable cause. And you can say “We don’t know if Sciona was the first to attack.” But she has not once in the past comics shown she isn’t willing to strike first.
And an eye for an eye is never the proper or moral way to deal with a situation. Isn’t the qoute “An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind” ?
The ones who keep quoting that are typically the ones who are too weak (bodied and slash or minded) to properly retaliate
Every action we have seen Sci perform so far, has been a reaction
Also, Sci had no way or reason to know that Maxi was going to be attending the Council Meeting, and that was simply because of Sydney’s classified Tru-Sight ball
Not knowing things is not an excuse in the eyes of the law in many cases, sadly. Her breaking into the vault and risking several nasty artifacts getting loosed into the world was not a reaction.
And before you say her attacking the council was a reaction to her beheading, do keep in mind that the attack was meant to distract the council away from the wards that keep the veil active.
So, sacrificing Cooter was a reaction? She seemed fairly active there
So, sacrificing Wyrmil unnecessarily was a reaction? She did that, 100%. No one did anything real to prompt that.
Virtually all she’s done, except when Archon finally tracked her down, was action, not reaction.
Read the fucking post, admitted that those may have been stretching things (and it was Doctor Chuckles that brought in Coot in the first place, and the whole fucking group agreed to blowing Coot up!!!)
“Remember, the Council is full of monsters and other predators that enjoy preying on hyu-mons, and saw no reason not to ‘feast’ at the table, with the ‘excuse’ that the ‘snack’ was a Super with the ability to refill any container with any fluid (like that makes it better?),”
The person they had a pre-existing agreement with, you mean?
You conveniently left off the end of the sentence you quoted
You conveniently left off the end of that sentence you quoted
Yaarrrrr!!!! me favorite booty!!
Dabbler smirks– “Hmm that looks like the Universe’s…well ‘Goatse’ I think you humans call it.”
Everyone “You’ve seen the universe’s ….”
Seen it? Dabbles has licked it, more than once (she wanted to see how many it took to get to the gooey centre)
That analogy makes me feel uncomfortable in weird places. Not the good kind of uncomfortable. And, not the good kind of weird places.
That was the intent :D
Well… now I think I have a mental image for what staring up the anus of Great Cthulhu looks like… thanks Dave. How did you know I needed more nightmare fuel in my life?
Farting in terror… is that anything like masturbating in fear?
Sydney’s hair is not blowing in the breeze. The fabric of the universe is being mucked with. Could be gravity waves. Could be a space-quake. I dunno. It’s an effect, like gravity, that the bubble doesn’t stop. Probably be fine if she grabs the flight orb tho.
Fart in Terror. LOL. If you would fart everytimes you’re scared, half of humanity would be dead from biological warfare at this point. No I think its more the anus of the universe farting gravitational waves which sounds like one of those farts that gotta leave a nasty stain, and smells like a billion people’s just farted at the same time in a small elevator. (… Time Lord logic. Its bigger on the inside?)
Here’s a case of farting in terror.
maybe Sydney made her hair flip for story impact. Everyone else’s hair was doing it, why not her’s too?
Including Hiro’s, and he doesn’t have much hair :P
Nono, the worst sound in the universe is the sound of a 2 TB hard drive, no backup, all stuff stored on it that is like 30 years old and unrecoverable anywhere. TAK-TAK-TAK-TAK-brrrrrrmfupsch-sirrrrumclack-eternal-silence. That’s the worst sound. I heard it once and it’s a nightmare that lasts, forever.
Umm… did they even have TB storage back then? o_O
The data was as much as 30 years old. But hell, stupid is as stupid does. An external drive backing up your important files is a cheap option, as is a RAID array which allows you to simply replace a faulty drive almost on the fly and preserve your data from a hardware failure. And there are several off-site options for data backup which will withstand even a house fire or theft or some other catastrophic event, including using Google drive or any one of several paid services.
the universal catflap is complete
What kind of person goes around making spells that tear holes in the universe without designing safe fail mechanisms in? I always figured that would be common sense.
That’s the sort of thing why the Brane Ripper was held in a deeply restricted vault. Potentially universe destroying tools are really best kept out of the hands of, well, of pretty much everyone.
Umm, she did design a failsafe: the circle that Dabbles fucked up by *VORCH*ing Sci’s leg
Remember how freaked out she was after smashing the blood-tank and seeing the blood moving towards the circle?
I would say that Gludvor without apostrophes sounds like an alien. With the apostrophes it sounds more like some sort of lovecraftian horror.
or his wife
So if this is the universe’s butthole, and it’s making a sound of it tearing, does that mean the sound is like a giant fart?
Weird gravity effects from the portal?
…would alternate/’negative’ (aka harmful or unwanted) gravity effects be blocked by the shield?
It’s actually more of a slapping noise, usually terminating with the sound of lukewarm gruel making its way down a windpipe.
No seriously, ripping open portals in the fabric of the universe has happened so often to my characters that I’m starting to consider it normal.
Sciona I do understand that unstable reality portals are bad, but I also wasn’t exactly a fan of what it was intended to do.
And… you know what it was intended for? Care to share with the rest of us? o_O
For all we know it was meant for her to escape to some other reality and begin a new life.
Again, I know I’m not the smartest person world, but I’m pretty sure we’ve already had a discussion about how certain sentences do not make sound effects.
Onomatopoeia: highlight it, then cut-and-paste it to a search engine.
Foreboding of the demon who swore vengeance on dabbs to show up…
Great, now you have to fish around in the soup of the universe and push down on the universe’s edge so it rotates enough that you can grab it and meanwhile Schrodinger’s cats will be clawing up your leg because they don’t know that the sound of an unobserved universe opening only sometimes means cat food.
Obviously, Sydney can *hear* inside her bubble, so some air movement can pass through her shield. We have a similar problem to how it can protect against lasers even though light can pass through.
Or the bubble acts as a speaker/microphone for low pressure vibrations and a camera/projector for low energy light.
Or, the shield orb creates a small pocket universe with reality projected onto the inside and the pocket universe projected onto the outside.
Bottom line obviously spoken by The Simpsons’ Comic Book Guy.
*shklorch*
The Vorpal Sword didn’t get to finish. Waiting to see the Jabberwocky.
this sounds like a wibby wobbly timey ohgodwe’reallgonnadie-y situation..
It’s simple, her hair isn’t blowing in the wind…
The fundamental nature of reality is shifting, twisting, and ripping apart near the portal.
Eddies in the space time continium.
Is he? Well tell him to get back here, pronto!
Fabric of the very Universe Torn Asunder [TM] sound effect? It’s actually Rick Astley, singing “Never gonna give you up!”
Because the Almighty has a sense of humor, too.
Last time I heard a VROUNCH it was a hell of a mess to clean up, and we still haven’t found the truck.
“That was a messy afternoon…”