Grrl Power #617 – Meet violent
Don’t worry that Sciona got away here, we are getting close to the end of this arc.
In the superhero world, the stratospheric head kick is the equivalent to reading someone their Miranda rights. Ok, not really, but at some point, Maxima really should identify herself as a cop. It’s not like she’ll be taken in front of a regular human court. If she’s taken alive, she’ll have to answer to The Twilight Council. They do have an actual legal system, but Sciona probably wouldn’t be able to justify most of her actions.
Speaking of which, I love all the debate on the previous page about whether or not Maxima was in the right about attacking Sciona, and how she did it, and who is culpable for the bridge. I could totally see lawyers arguing all the points back and forth. Did Sciona attack the bridge? Was she going to? Did she mean to deflect Maxima’s attack into the bridge? Was it self-defense? Can’t it be both? Coming up next on Super Law and Super Order. BUN-BONNNN.
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That makes me wonder if there is a series that deals with the legal implications of super-heroes. Like I know that Wonder Woman and Daredevil have lawyers as their alter-egos, but I haven’t read enough of their comics to know if they deal with supers in court.
Super Powereds kinda does.
But it’s not the main focus of the story.
She-Hulk did on some of the runs
Wonder Woman isn’t a lawyer – she’s an ambassador. I think you’re thinking She-Hulk (Jennifer Walters).
Other attorneys in comics are, at least the ones I can think of off the top of my head):
Augustus Freeman (aka Icon)
Katherine Spencer (aka Manhunter)
Harvey Dent (aka Two-Face) – ex-D.A.
Jean Loring (aka Eclipso) – ex-attorney
Jamie Madrox (aka Multiple Man)
Sasha Martin (aka Southpaw) – well she will be an attorney in the future in She-Hulk, at least
And I guess Abraham Lincoln if you include the comic book Abraham Lincoln – Vampire Hunter.
I can’t think of any others (aside from Daredevil and She-Hulk also).
Wait, what? Someone made a comic of the novel? (I already know there’s a film)
Note to future self: the q tag and ” is redundant.
Yes :)
https://www.parkablogs.com/sites/default/files/Abraham-03.jpg
I think is was published by Aspen Comics.
Dang, yeah I mixed Wonder Woman and She-hulk up. Thanks for the correction and all the other info.
NP – I could use a break from posting legal arguments :)
Whateley Academy has a lot of thought put into that stuff. An NGO, the “Mutant Commission Office”, handles issuance of “Mutant IDentification cards”, with restrictions like “you must show your MID before boarding any plane”. They’ve got plenty of corrupt cops, and white supremacy rebranded as “Humanity First”.
“Use of superhuman powers in the commission of a crime” is a standard extra charge that adds a few years to your sentence.
Most of the superhero teams have budget problems and have to find a source of income.
There’s a “Law & Order” themed side story where a New York cop investigates a murder that leads them to the academy, where… won’t spoil it, but they end up not being able to arrest, with a twist. (Title: “Crime and Chaos”, ID 265.)
CSI: Super Suspects Unit
a few superhuman anthologies over the years. one with a guy who controlled plantlife. and grew it too. instantly. The governments hounded him legally into obscurity due to
1) criminals complaining injury from richocheting bullets off the trees that sprang from the ground between them and hostages
2) Greenpeace or whatever the other organization was in the story telling him he could only drive an ecologically friendly vehicle.
He wound up fading into the jungles of a country that let him stay as long as he did absolutely nothing except repair the forests
Law and the Multiverse is a blog done by real-life lawyers who explore the legal side of whatever is happening in the comics.
The “Wearing The Cape” series (that this comic eventually is featured in a crossover event) deals with pretty realistic portrayals of supers and the legal ramifications of having powers. Things like the fact that they have a junior team and the members of it that aren’t 18 can’t be involved in certain things unless it’s a huge emergency, or how all legal heroes are automatically in their state militia. It’s pretty dope and worth a read. Fair warning though: it’s a book, not a comic.
So mandatory conscription, based on how you are born? Sounds rather politically incorrect to me.
As discussed in many series including this one – what do you do with a civilian with the kind of firepower we’re talking about, and no capability to disarm them?
I don’t think “we’ll make them an offer they can’s refuse” is a great option, but I don’t know that I can think of other viable plans that don’t involve pulling an anti-Vehemence (locking them in a room filled with pot smoke forever).
How about simply giving them a choice, make it more attractive to join the JackBoots than it would be to oppose the dictators, make crimes committed while having any sort of a power more severe than the exact same crime committed by someone without powers. They are not punishing them for being born, they are just making the punishment worse if they are caught abusing their powers
It’s what Archon is doing: they probably could make more money in the private sector, butt in most cases they wouldn’t be allowed to use their powers (depending on what they are)
Almost any super could make a fortune in industry. Strong and flies – replace cranes in construction sites – and those come with ridiculous costs that you would not believe. Psychic – the high end banks and security companies would pay out the wazoo! Psychic healer – hospitals and clinics would pay insanely.
Never could understand the villains, they could make 100x as much just working.
Wearing The Cape is pretty awesome, but I don’t like the underlying conscription theme. Or the Omega series, which says you can’t use your powers unless you’re a registered hero.
Then again, I’m Team Cap all the way and am really against anyone trying to dictate by force (though to be honest, all laws and government is through force or the threat of force). Going to stupid extremes, could you say redheaded males have to shave their heads when going in public because gingers are inherently evil? Why not? It’s okay to tell a guy can light his fingers up he can’t do that, because superpowers are too dangerous.
How many babies are shaken to death by irate unstable parents? Do we make prospective parents undergo rigorous training to make sure they won’t ever be a danger to their child? How many normal people beat other people to death with their fists every year?
On the other hand. do we want nuclear weapons available at your local hardware store? It’s an intriguing problem…
What most of the series out there don’t really address is that Bad Guys don’t *obey* the law…that’s kind of their whole Bad Guy shtick. A supervillain wanting to blow up Toledo because that’s where his girlfriend broke up with him isn’t going to say, “Well, damn, I really wanted to blow up Toledo, but I can’t use my powers unless I go to Hero School…so I guess I’ll go to Hero School and *then* blow up Toledo once it’s legal for me to use my powers!”
Personally, I like the Cape High version…heroes and villains really aren’t; it’s all a media show like WWE. The few *real* villains get stomped on by pretty much all the `wrestlers’. Or the Kid Sensation novels, which sort of echoes our society: get caught, get in trouble. Don’t get caught, not in trouble. Oh, and society can put a bounty out on you if you were bad and we just haven’t caught you…yet.
If I remember correctly Daredevil regularly defended supers in court. As well as some runs that were focused on that aspect of his secret identity.
It might not exactly be superhero defense, but Harvey Birdman: Attourney at Law has various Hannah Barbara characters sueing or defending themselves in a court of law.
The first superhero rpg, Hero 44, listed getting sued for property damage as a battle outcome. But it also let you countersue for ingratitude.
That reminds me of Wolf & Byrd – Lawyers of the Macabre.
Supernatural Law is a series that explores law as it relates to supernatural creatures of the night…
He he. Now consider that the Grrlverse is basically our world with supers (and other hidden stuff too).
So they do have Wolf & Byrd – Lawyers of the Macabre too. And a few of the questions posted to them, may have been actual supernatural creatures genuinely seeking legal advice!
Yet they could post the questions completely frankly and people would just take it as being an interesting hypothetical!
*wriggling on the floor, with feet in the air, revelling in the irony*
The Boys by Garth Ennis had an entire corporate PR firm dedicated to putting a positive spin on superheroes various acts of criminal depravity and negligence. As well as a CIA backed group that kept them them in line through a combination of blackmail and brutality.
Savage Dragon, and Powers revolved around branches of the police department dedicated to super powered crimes, and keeping superheroes form getting to carried away.
Holy shit, did she actually cut Maxima?!?!?
Sciona is, in fact, a pretty big deal.
Well, Maxima may not be “maxed out” on invulnerability, what with the very fast flying and headstomping she’s doing. And those don’t look like very deep cuts (not much in the way of blood or whatever Maxima uses for circulatory fluid). But yes, that is impressive.
Yea, Vehemence had to soak up an entire battlefield’s worth of vehemic energy to be able to make Maxima’s nose bleed!
Now have a thought as to how powerful that implies Vale is.
I’m not worried about the little cut; I am worried about the uses Sciona has for blood.
Rightly so. If you examine the wounds under maximum magnification though there is no blue clearly visible. Whilst blood is likely to come out, it does not look like it has reached the surface at that point.
None the less Sciona’s wings must have penetrated at least the outer layer of skin, in order to leave those marks.* And they are very thick lines, so I think the wounds will have reached into the flesh below. So the wing tips should have passed through blood carrying vessels.
Here is the good news though. Maxima’s force fields protect every cell in her body individually. That includes blood cells. Secondly the force field creates a slick effect (hence makeup not sticking). So there is a very good chance that the blood did not stick to Sciona’s wings.
Then we can top that off with her spinning violently, in a circle, whilst doing that. So what blood may have come out, on the wing tips, will hopefully have been flung off.
Hopefully, but not with certainty. So worrying is sensible, if considering the less likely possibilities.
After all we saw the incredibly unlikely come to pass with the bridge being hit.
* We could argue that they are bruises, but Sciona’s wings are clearly sharp, not blunt, so I discount that.
Best not to warn your adversary till after they are in custody. Nor before.
I wonder how long this sequence took in real-time.
.5 to 1 second maximum?
Might explain why Max didn’t just dodge the blades and speed-blitz her.
Man, don’t you hate it when they teleport?
Yes, that can be annoying. Just ask any of Son Goku’s enemies.
Of course it begs the question: Why did Sconia not teleport to begin with?
What possible downside could using that power have?
Maybe it takes a lot of energy/mana/something to teleport so she limits her doing so?
Just a guess. I don’t know really – she just has teleported one other time, when she left the vault.
Or maybe it is more like a “recall to hearth” teleport instead of a “go where I want right now without limits” teleport.
Yup, that would explain it (likewise our furry lawyer’s explanation).
Although, if that is the one, it would also imply that Maxima was forlorn in her hope that Sciona was on her way to her lair.
Assuming that her hearth would be set to her base – which seems like a poor plan (how are you gonna TP away when the heroes show up at your base?).
Reasonable point. One though which itself assumes that the location can be varied (which brings it closer to ‘picking wherever you want to go’). Bear in mind that Harem does have a limitation similar to this, for her teleport. She can only go to places that she is intimately familiar with.
Which includes the Archon base, her private quarters and where she grew up. For Harem to set a ‘safe haven’ teleport, that nobody else knows about, she would have to go to that location regularly, by mundane means, to become familiar enough with it. Running the risk that anyone following her could learn its location.
Of course, even if Sciona’s version does have a similar restriction, there is no reason why she could not have set up a safe haven too. And maybe all it might take is carving a rune or some other symbol there. So you are right to point it out.
Maybe Not really a teleport? It says ‘Wink,’ which is could be related to Blink, a defensive spell used to travel “short” distances to escape melee combat. The “short” is relative to your power, usually, anywhere from not actually moving, just not being there while the sword passes through, to blinking back far enough to be in ranged combat again. I haven’t been in the Grimoire lately, so i dont know the relative costs of Teleport over Blink. I do remember Blink is ‘faster’ in that it wouldn’t be useful to have a defensive spell you have to take a whole turn to cast.
Or it could just be a fun sound for someone disappearing.
Poetically it can also be taken as Sciona magically winking at her foe, having escaped her.
Note the ‘poetically’. We have some commentators who might otherwise take that literally.
Remember, Harem uses *VORP*, characters in “Wapsi Square” use *POIT* and a certain fuzzy blue elf *BAMF*s all over the place
My theory is, teleportation magic can be tracked if other mages can locate the area. So chances are she woul rather not risk it if she doesnt have to as now she may have to abandon her current base.
Law and Order: Super Victims Unit. BOM BONG
Super Law and Order? I think you mean “Harvey Birdman, Attourney At Law”.
How many more pages are left in this current chapter?
Undefined. Dave did guess, right at the outset, but it was just that. We do know that this chapter covers Sydney’s basic training though. And clearly that has barely started. Plus there is a lot more that we want to see, such as testing Sydney’s powers more, getting shown arrest procedures or going on maneuvers.
Plus when she finally gets to use her gun and even pivotal moments like her getting her badge. But that last probably comes on graduation, so may be after this chapter.
Given her size and the kick from the usual military pistol, Sydney is going to have an experience with her first target practice.
Not sure about current practice, but the manual used to tell recruits to put a pencil in barrel and dry fire, to simply get the “feel” of pulling the trigger. At six inches or so, the pencil would leave a mark on the target when the firing pin shoved it out of the barrel, and you could get an idea of what you’d actually aimed at.
Yes, I thought that was a bit odd myself.
She has already fired her gun. She “eeks” every time she pulls the trigger, to the despair of peggy.
Do you mean ‘Chapter’ or ‘Arc’? Because you can have several ‘arcs’ in a Chapter (and Archon is full of sub-arcs :P)
Well Dave gives us the answer to the arcs question above. Namely not many pages, as this arc is almost over.
But, yea, the end of the arc does not (necessarily) mean the end of the chapter. I hope not anyhow, as there is way too much I would yet want to see.
*counting with paws*
Mmm, lets see ‘several months to the flash forwards. At least one shower a day. Yes, yes. Much I would not want to miss out on!
Non-government super heroes wear face masks while doing hero stuff. They can’t afford the lawyers.
Except the X-men, *most mutants don’t wear masks*.
Squirrel Girl (yet somehow tucking her tail and wearing little squirrel ears on her head works)…
The Fantastic Four (although they can afford lawyers),
and most mid-90’s heroes, it was kind of the thing for the Dark Age heroes not to wear masks, part of that *I don’t care, my dark soul makes me fight the evils of the world* sort of thing, and the early 2000’s Deconstruction age heroes also rarely wore masks, the whole (This is how the real world works, I can’t hide my identity, or I can stay secret so long as no one knows me, or open police force sort of deal).
It could be argued that Fantastic Four are government super heroes, or at least recognized by the US Government, and not only can they afford lawyers, She-Hulk is a fill-in member
I… think the Fantastic Four is financed by Reed Richards’ inventions, not the government. Avengers were more of a government-approved superhero group (at least in the movies – I think in the comic it was created by Iron Man instead, who got Thor, The Hulk, Ant-Man and Wasp together to form a super group – and I think the elected Wasp as the leader – and she named them).
Didn’t say financed by the Government, said are government super heroes, as in, they work for, or on behalf of, the US Government
Not exactly sure about the details of the formation of the original comics Avengers, butt fairly sure they were formed to combat Loki (who was attempting to use Hulk to destroy things)
In the film we did indeed see Reed Richards covertly working with the government, in making his Silver Surfer detector. So you are correct in your assertion in that they do work for them, from time to time.
Although technically making them more ‘government consultants/contractors’ (if paid) or ‘unpaid government consultants/contractors’ (if not). But that is just for the sake of precision, as you clearly stated ‘it could be argued’ and you are right in broad terms. Whilst they are working for the government, they are government super heroes.
But equally they are also civilians, who can tell them to go poke it. Which is what Reed pretended to do previously (in rather more polite terms), in order to placate his fiancee.
And excluding Superman, who basically relies on people thinking that he doesn’t have a secret identity…
I saw a fanfic once where Joker and Harley knew who batman was . but he was too much fun so they let him think they didn’t. his mansion, except for the occasional “fun” was hands-off to them
I suddenly have images of Joker and Harley sneaking around the mansion….reversing the toilet paper rolls….setting clocks back 10 minutes…untucking bed corners….
Poor Alfred.
He’s in on it
“Don’t worry that Sciona got away here, we are getting close to the end of this arc.”
Which is really too bad. I hope we see more than just Deus dancing rings around Archon. He needs plausible competition in the major baddy tier.
Don’t believe it will be the last we ever see of Sci-fright, nor Wyrmoot, just the story will move onto something else
As for SmugD, we need to see him come across someone he can’t manipulate or intimidate and Valeur can’t scare off or beat, someone to mud-stomp the smugness out his arse
My vote’s for Guilded Age Frigg. Best-suited candidate, and all that jazz.
I’d say that Deus would just seduce Frigg… except it’s far more likely that he’d suggest a bath and such first, and the very, very earthy and “au natural” Frigg would respond with a whack from that mace of hers. His bodyguard’s pretty tough, but… Frigg’s beaten GODS. And then walked away from their offer of divinity afterwards…
Guess you are not talking about the Norse Goddess named Frigg, wife of Odin :P
Oh right, thought you mean “Golden Age” Frigg, haven’t read “Guilded Age” since they ISP-banned me for defending the guy who looks like Robin Williams with a moustache after so many people wanted to see him killed (go figure, the one person who was arguing against a character being killed ended up perma-banned…)
I have no idea what anyone’s talking about here, since I never head of Guilded Age.
It’s a web comic, a fairly decent one, half of it is set in a fantasy world, and the other is set in the ‘real world’ with the characters from the game actually being you will have to read it yourself to find out, if you want to
It was one of the characters from the ‘real world’ setting that ended up getting me perma-banned
Figuring out the whims of forum mods is impossible.
It was actually one of the creators who perma-banned, which is their right, just kinda shitty seeing it was only me who was opposed to having the character killed
Sydney gets
my vote.
Reverse Nami with Sydney and Monkey D. Luffy with Deus Machina.
He isnt really dancing around archon, this was basically the first real trick he pulled on them, with co robbing the vault and letting sciona take the fall. He has to actually be a threat to them before there is anything for them to move on. Before then he was at most a bit shifty and was spying on them (while they spied on him)
Agreed (and to the best of our knowledge mind – who knows what other dodgy deals he may have been covertly involved in previously).
Beware of owls!
That sort of thing happens when Muggles try to use messenger owls.
Win.
Surely someone must have mentioned the great blog for its informative discussions on superheroes, supervillains, and the law as it actually is, and as it might evolve (or be applied in its present form) when faced with comic book reality.
But I’m not wading back through comments pages to see, so there it is. Fun read.
Ugh, broken code and no edit function. Anyway the blog is called Law and the Multiverse and it’s at https://lawandthemultiverse.com/ strangely enough.
I am unable to remember names, that only crop up rarely, but that, or something similar, has indeed been mentioned in the past. An interesting resource and potentially a good source for the present debates, if the allegedly ‘negligent expert’ angle has been addressed in some article.
I have got to say that is one heck of a power stunt that Sciona has developed. Essentially it is like casting “wall of blades” simultaneously with “teleport”!
Yeah, convenient side-effect is fortuitous :D
It’s definitely a cool move.
“BUN-BONNNN.” ??! Hey! It is almost Easter!
I know, you were going for the Law & Order sound effect, but I just had to make the rabbit joke. ;)
Maybe Maxi should cool her rage by fixing the bridge (that she helped blow up)
+1
Sciona can scratch Maxima. That doesn’t look like much, except you know, BLOOD MAGIC. And those spirit-like blades are probably DESIGNED to get some blood just for this sort of occasion!
This is going to end up with Sciona having some of Sydney’s blood in her mouth, and becoming a ditz, no?
I think that is just soot rubbed off from Siona’s scorched wings, because there isn’t any blue blood leaking from what might be scratches.
Nah, not soot, the lines are too ‘crisp’, butt more likely tis butt a scratch (literally in this case, not enough to draw blood)
Possibly.
But Sciona did stick her wings into the water, whilst still flying forwards. So any loose soot should have been washed off already.
Don’t worry about it; remember her blood is blue? A very bright and obnoxious blue at that. The marks look more like dirt, so it seems to me that Maxima just got some dirt on her or scuffed at the most.
Which is a bit odd since according to much earlier comics, dirt and makeup doesn’t really stick to her very well, but then again it hasn’t had time to slough off.
That’s also possible. We’ll probably find out in the next few comics.
Well, we know sand and grit stick to her, as Max uses them to be less shiny, so it is possible.
Regardless, in this case I do believe those to be small, shallow cuts/scratches.
The sooner we get back to Sydney being Sydney, the better :P
I wish we could always see that little wheel that indicates how much power Maxima is pushing where.
That would be helpful.
However Dave is wise not to do that, as it keeps the details vague enough that people can’t call him out and say ‘oh at that strength setting, on X page she could only lift Y tons’. This way if there is a discrepancy, it can be accounted for the dial being on a different setting.
I think that, in general, Maxima keeps to a default ‘perfect triangle’ of powers unless otherwise stated. He might have mentioned that elsewhere but I don’t remember exactly where.
Maxima has four powers drawing from the same source. 1. Defence. 2. Super Strength 3. Speed/reflexes 4. Flight.
Thought it was five… o_O
The fifth power is her energy blast. But that does not use her force fields, so is completely independent of the other four. Each of those use her force fields, in different ways. Other than providing defence their main property is to be able to push stuff, hence why it is also called ‘zero-range telekinesis’.
Your reasoning sort of explains why her plasma blast is her most destructive and powerful power, especially if it works the way you’re claiming. All her other powers need to share from a common source, while the plasma blast has its own independent source. :)
Yup. It is all in Dabbler’s Science Corner #1, with additional info from the horses’ mouth, so is pucker.
Barring my odd bout of memory lapses of late. Or me having slipped through a wormhole and into a slightly different alternate Earth. Which is far more likely if there is a problem.
“The sky is falling” update:
Latest tracking data has the dead Chinese space station (as in non-functional, not carrying zombies) falling back to Earth most likely on April 1st. I appreciate the irony of this. If it does actually burn-and-crash on that date will any of the news organizations believe the story enough to broadcast it? If so, will anyone listening take it seriously?
*starts hunting down back of sofa for coins*
OK, they say that you are less likely to be hit by a falling bit of space junk, than to win the lottery. So now is my chance to win millions!
OK, so you know that Sciona is evil and has killed a few people at least. Probably more people than most vampires. But so far, everyone she has killed has been towards her goal of restoring herself to her original body, right? You have to ask, not that she got her goal, what will she do next, how many more people will die if you let continue doing whatever her plan is. Then you have to weigh that against how many people are likely to get killed if you throw down with her and try to stop her. So the question kinda becomes, can you find a way to stop her that has lower collateral damage, and how long can you afford to wait? Like if she is about to end the human race, then you have to throw down right now, and any amount of collateral damage is OK. But if she just wants to kill off whoever was responsible for chopping off her head last time, like maybe a few dozen more murders, then taking her out can wait until you manage to get her out in the wilderness. Definately, if shes in a crowded place, it would be better to risk letting her escape than attack her at that moment. I could see a scenario where you have a super powerful bad guy who doesnt really do that much other than occasionally kill someone for their blood, that you know is really bad, but you would rather not pick a fight with, because it would level a city and they always hang out in a city… Just saying, sometimes doing nothing is the lesser of two evils when you talking about super powerful villans. Like if you know Magneto is in San Fransico, you might want to just wait and watch, rather than risk a Golden Gate Bridge being used as a weapon…
Interesting line of thought. And there is something to be said for ‘letting sleeping dragons lie’.
Although some attention needs to be given to ones who have apologetically powerful weapons. Especially as that was the next thing on Sciona’s agenda after restoring her body. Rather interrupted by Deus’s intervention. It is unlikely that Sciona acquired the Bane Ripper just to put it on her mantle piece.
It even had Vale worried!
Sure, but is it Nuke New York levels of bad? What I mean is, in the Avengers, someone decided that it would be better to nuke the most densely populated city in the US than to allow an alien invasion to gain a foothold. Personally, I think it was a poor decision, but I could see the reasoning… better a small nuke killing a few hundred thousand than letting an invasion force take over entire planet. Are we at that level of danger?
Actually despite what the council has stated, I have yet to see collaborating evidence to their claim of apocalyptic weapons.
Let’s review what artifacts we have confirmed the abilities of:
1: Epimorph: Able to restore and alter a physical form to the user’s wishes. Has a Full Metal Alchemist style limit however of needing 99 deaths to recharge. While this is mass murder, the device its self is only charged by each death, and from the way Deus and Cthilla were talking can’t be used to kill them all at once and will take time, -charging method not see yet, but given similar magic devices probably a stab the person and suck out their life force one at a time method* So despite its magic powers, its killing potential is basically a knife.
2: Regenerator: restored a mostly dead and fully dead corpse to life, unforeseen as one guy though with two minds. Another medical device, and no draw backs described, so basically a better version of the Epimorph, only with less control over the results.
3: Bane Sickle: a tad more useful offensively, although as a dimension blade its range of effect seems to be a slash, and if Trent is any indication how much control one has over where it connects to and what is summoned through is questionable. It also has shown no additional ability to control what was summoned, Trent wasn’t trying to be in the way, that was just where it/they fell through the rift.
At this time Sidney’s orbs have more apocalyptic potential. We also have yet to see that sword Heavenly Sword got in action, but aside from RPG style range, damage, element, and status affect boosts I don’t see it either being apocalyptic.
Maybe some combo, a bunch together, or if some are also used as seals for some eldritch abomination…or something extra dimensional wants the object and can sense its activation; but aside from unknown X-factors so far they haven’t lived up to “apocalyptic” more just dangerous. Its kind of feeling like a case of Supernatural Overestimation.
-where the standards of power are based on ideas of the world from centuries ago, not today. Like an episode of Buffy the Vampire slayer where a demon with no special weaknesses and high regeneration proclaimed himself invincible to human weapons, and was revived after millennia of sleep…only to be blasted to oblivion by a rocket launcher.
Slight correction: the Epimorph requires 99 Souls, nothing said about deaths (unless remembering wrong, butt do remember a similar discussion at the time mentioning both Souls and Deaths)
Other than that, in agrecian with you (also personally don’t trust the Council as a whole, some of the members may be okay individually though… )
It is right to query the information they give. However do not forget that artefacts of great power are likely to have more than one power. The simple ones can probably be used easily. The greater ones might require a ceremony, mass sacrifice or special circumstances.
So each of those examples you cited may be the weakest power, on a tree of ever more dangerous capabilities.
Or, it may indeed be that the Dark Reliquary has a mix of items of varying power. Probably all with at least some nasty side effect or unethical basic use. Otherwise there is no logic in locking them up in a vault, and leaving them to gather dust for 30 years.
So if each item does only have the one power, the only ones that we will have seen used are the ones which do not blow up the world. Because once one of the other sort gets used …
The killings now were to get a new body and the Sickle.
However, the Council considered her dangerous enough to try and kill her. Whatever the reasons were (and we don’t have that information), you have to take them into account too (which is hard for us readers, because we don’t know).
If a mass-murderer escapes and “only” steals stuff for the moment, you don’t treat him as “just a thief”.
“(…) too bad you couldn’t have just put your tracking spell on a rock and kicked that through.”
REALLY hoping someone took 10 seconds to think and hooked Maxima up with a Magic enhanced tracking bug that she planted on Sciona.
Unless she had it on the sole of her boot, not gonna happen
I was wondering if she should hold or mark her position till the psychics can get there and try to determine where Sciona went.
They wear GPS trackers, so she could either note the location now or look it up on her telemetry, when needed.