Grrl Power #591 – Florence Dark-Knightingale
To be fair to Maxima, “walk it off” is her go-to for everything from brain freeze to devastating spinal trauma.
Dabbler absolutely is sandbagging. Getting punched in gazorpazovum isn’t pleasant, but succubi are built to take a lot more abuse that than on the reg. I mean, they were literally made to get turned on by whatever kind of whooping a partner cares to inflict on them. Yes, that carries some dark implications, but succubi have evolved far beyond their origins. Origins that Dabbler will probably get into in the next story arc at some point.
It would be confusing if Harem took a hot shower and a cold shower at the same time. Well, maybe not confusing for her necessarily, but it would certainly be an odd sensation for the rest of us mono beings. I guess it would kind of feel like being covered in Icy Hot or some other sports rub, which I imagine would be rather unpleasant and overwhelming very quickly.
I know I said I was toying with skipping the comic today, but I managed to get relatively caught up by splitting a page, which I don’t like doing, because it gives you guys less to chat about. Or the content is spread across more pages. Lower content density. I like my content dense. I mean, I don’t like cramming a bunch of panels on to a page cause I likes my art big, but still, I like giving you guys a whole arc of a scene or a joke on a single page when I can.
Anyway, I also didn’t want to skip the day because I like being able to say I’ve never missed a post. Granted, I can’t say I’ve never forgotten what day of the week it is and wound up posting a comic late, but I’ve never actually missed a post.
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Nice panel 2.
Merry Christmas folks!
DaveB, Merry Christmas!
And here’s your Christmas pedantry:
Brusque, not Brusk.
::wiggles his long silky ears to heart the bells jingle::
Nope – apparently that is an alternate spelling – I apologize!
Let me help – “More aggressive THAN the rapacious ailment that brought you to the doctor in the first place?”
Well it’s been a few weeks since I screwed up some dialog. We were due.
In that spirit, “Fell” in Maxima’s dialogue should should probably be “felled”. Tenses and all that.
No, ‘felled’ would not be correct
“If in doubt, sound it out”: “You expect me to believe the physically weakest member of the team felled our mighty adventurer?” sounds wrong
Felled sounds correct to me.
Incidentally, what is it with all the nipple hiding going on? Guess this really is a question to the author, as it puzzles me.
Is it the author’s preference, some legal limitation, or whatnot? I’m not objecting to it and I guess it makes for an interesting artistic challenge to draw half-naked ladies while ensuring all nipples are covered at all times, but it does seem a bit weird in an otherwise adult webcomic to observe that bizarre piece of US legal prudery if it doesn’t have to pass the censors (err, rating bureau, whatever it is that movies have to pass where it is enforced that children who are judged responsible enough to see murder, torture, deception, and betrayal need to be protected from the sight of a female nipple).
Or perhaps it is part of current US cultural taboos and not merely old law that female nipples must be hidden lest they tempt men to dark and dangerous thoughts (unlike male nipples which are apparently no problem whatsoever)?
Help me understand what is going on here. As a citizen of Denmark, where most of the sexual taboos were killed off for good in the 1960’s (and good riddance to bad rubbish), it can be hard to distinguish between what is current cultural taboo and what is merely current custom where sexual matters abroad are concerned.
in short: advertisers
Like hmantegazzi said, advertisers are a part of it. I’ve also encountered a lot of the “comics and cartoons are for kids and not adults” mentality.
For this, I’d go with personal choice, though.
Dave has previously done adult furry comics. Dabbler was originally created for one of them.
Here, advertisers, if you want nudity check out his deviant art and such pages.
DaveB has expressed before his reluctance to exceed pg-13 without an age-check wall, which on the internet, is a bit like garden fencing around one bush on the Serengeti. But he says it keeps the advertisers happy.
ps – read wikipedia about the Hays Code, or as it’s sometimes called, the “Hollywood code”. It’s a poison syrupy sap that has tainted American media for almost a century, and it was self-inflicted to prevent gov’t censorship of movies.
It’s actually worse than censorship, as it has spread far beyond Hollywood and answers to no one in the public sphere, especially courts which would have struck down anything similar the gov’t would have by now.
Your intuitions are wrong. Sydney already did the felling, so it is past tense.
Um…. Guesticus, felled is correct.
Again, read the whole sentence, felled does not fit
Nah, sounds wrong to me. I have to agree with the others. What is it that makes you think Maxima is not speaking in past tense?
And yet again I wish there was an edit function…
Maxima’s disbelief might be happening as she’s speaking but Sydney’s felling of Dabbler happened in the past, hence the use of the past tense form “felled.” Atleast that’s how I’m thinking…
Fellethed.
felled is correct according to tense.
however, according to how people actually speak, they usually use whatever form of the word sounds ‘correct’ to them.
By Jove! Do believe they got it!!
While it may be grammatically incorrect, verbally it is not, which is why said “Sound it out”
I did read it again. Felled works.
fact, Felled does fit, and it’s correct in all tenses. just admit when you’re wrong, Guesticus.
also, FYI, if “Fell”was going to stay.. it’s missing a word. “Could fell.”
that’s the only way it actually works. deal with it.
Sorry Guesticus, but ‘felled’ is what sounds correct. I tested both against my wife, who has not read this far into the comic and did not know what I was asking, and she said ‘felled’ is what sounded correct too.
If it was more formal speech, then you could substitute “did fell” instead of felled.
I grew up in California, my wife grew up in Connecticut, and to both our ears using ‘fell’ here sounds horribly wrong.
That felled horribly wrong.
I should take AWAY a Yorpie Snax for that pun.
Going to invoke the Mark Twain rule.
Dialogue doesn’t have to be grammatically perfect as no person *who isn’t a trained voice actor* is 100% perfect in this regard. So write how people speak when writing dialogue or narration intended to be from a person.
For instance as much as it bugs me, the average person I have heard where I live will say “I have ate today” When I know for a fact the correct way “I have eaten today”, but if I was writing dialogue for a mid-western person it would be “I have ate” so it sounds naturally to come from the character speaking.
I think you mean “I have already dun ‘et brefuss today.”
The worst of double edged literary swords, trying to convey an accent and it still be legible to readers who don’t know right away WHAT accent as they don’t hear it in their head like the writer does. See the Dabbler-Coot interrogation.
It is silly using those. Pens are mightier!
Yeah, the “fell our mighty adventurer” in the past-tense stopped me up short with a wince the first time I read this page. Do not mix your tenses people! It hurts.
Not sure if it’s been mentioned before, but in Paragraph_2, Sentence_2 of the Author’s Comments, “than that” got transposed.
Can of worms, Dave. Maybe you should replace “fell” with “took down” and circumvent any future arguments about what verbs lumberjacks use.
I am sure they use chainsaws. Well except for the traditionalists who stick to saws and axes.
Eh… I’m not sure where the idea of that as an alternative spelling is coming from, but I’d be surprised to learn it predates the internet.
No need to apologize, Weatherheight. “Alternate spelling” is an abbreviation for “people kept misspelling it the same way so often that we just gave up and added it to the dictionary.”
Yeah, like the American’s and their disdain for the letter ‘u’
The American u thing is even weirder than that! Noah Webster (as in Webster’s dictionary) actually did that to us on purpose!
Yea, the guy who compiled the first English dictionary did something similar. Despite on most words recording the most common spelling for other words, for a few he totally made up his own.
“Ghost” being an example of an irritating one. Prior to his dictionary the common way to spell it was “gost” (or alternatively “gast”. But no, apparently he felt that was not acceptable. It was too easy and he needed to discourage foreigners from learning to write the King’s English.
OK he may have had different motives. But I am not inclined to be generous to someone who purposely makes life harder for people.
Shouldn’t it be “…felled our mighty adventurer?” however?
Nope – present tense is appropriate.
It should be past tense. “Felled”. She’s talking about a thing that happened and then stopped.
If you ask Dabbles, it hasn’t stopped yet
The way I see it, Dabbler hasn’t gotten back up onto her own hooves yet, so she was felled & still fallen. That would be past tense with present tense included.
Well, IMO, Dabbler has already been brought low, the issue of whether she’s gotten up again is irrelevant. If you’ve felled a tree, you’re not expecting it to get back up, and it is certainly appropriate to use in that context.
In modern speech patterns, “felled” is appropriate; however, in older forms of English “fell” is appropriate in such a context. That being said, DaveB could admit an error and correct it, or he could simply point out that Max has many layers, “like and onion”-Shrek, and her inner nerd is peeking through. I like the second explanation. Plus, many military personnel, especially officers, tend toward a strong curiosity towards history, as do RPG-ers. I’m guessing that there might even be a bit of an actress or re-enactress (Renaissance Fairs and such) in Max’s past.
Just sayin’.
Personal note: During college, I did more in depth studying for our AD&D (first edition, kiddies) than I did for any of my courses. I especially enjoyed researching wooden sailing vessels when our party captured a pirate ship and decided to have it remodeled into a mobile party base. The engineering and capabilities of such ships were fascinating, and as our GM was a physics major, and the rest of the players were big old nerds, we got into some pretty intense discussions over how magic could affect/effect the crafting of such vessels. *sigh* I miss those days.
I wish I could upvote here. I love your explanation.
Even in archaic English it should still be “felled.”
When in doubt, replace with a modern regular verb and check. like “jumped”. “You expect me to believe Sydney jump our mighty hero?”, Nope – should be “jumped”, not jump. should be felled, not fell.
When in doubt, sound it out!
Grammar is like using the Marquis of Queensberry rules in a street fight: it has no place in the real world
Grammar is the real world’s Calvinball rules.
tldr: https://www.picpak.net/calvin/oldsite/images/verysorry.jpg
more completely: https://www.picpak.net/calvin/calvinball
when in doubt, ignore anything guesticus says, since he clearly doesn’t do what he says (since sounding it out actually makes “felled” fit better)
Max is a nerd, and the type of nerd to use ‘to fell’ and know the difference between that word and ‘to fall.’ I reckon both Tolkien & Gygax would have said ‘felled,’ so that’s how Max would have learnt to say it. It’s a lettering error.
Going to invoke the Mark Twain rule.
Dialogue doesn’t have to be grammatically perfect as no person *who isn’t a trained voice actor* is 100% perfect in this regard. So write how people speak when writing dialogue or narration intended to be from a person.
For instance as much as it bugs me, the average person I have heard where I live will say “I have ate today” When I know for a fact the correct way “I have eaten today”, but if I was writing dialogue for a mid-western person it would be “I have ate” so it sounds naturally to come from the character speaking.
Zack Tilly!
There’s a difference between “it’s a believable mistake” and “I left it in because dialogue”. Can you really see Maxima making an error like that?
Yes, as its not a common phrase people tend to say, and one we’ve not seen her use this entire comic. Also given her “nerd” past the present tense as a past tense would be more common in Swords and Sorcery as it sounds better.
I fell the great beast before the alter of karnoth.
I can see a lot of people if they try to say “felled” their brain will mess them up with “felt”.
and consider they are meant to be regarded as speaking in real time like real people and not pre-written stage scripts. So what comes out of your mouth may not always be 100 percent grammatically correct 100 percent of the time, especially with English. It makes them look more human and less like robots (like so many old movies where everyone spoke in that fake stage accent and always used the correct English words).
Very well put
And it is a common conceit of fiction writing that we clean up (most of) the grammar and diction to make the thing easier to read.
I’m going to assume you meant to type “altar.” :P
Anyway… Seems this discussion has distracted everyone from the fact that the showerheads are still missing.
If the character suffered a retcon, then it should read ‘I fell the great beast before the alteration of Karnoth.”
Ooh, or maybe it should read “I Fell, the Great Beast…”?
Wouldn’t it feel like one hand in hot water and one in cold water to Harem? Since it isn’t sudden the feeling would not repeat to each instance. And if it did then you would have the effect of both hands removed from the respective hot/cold source and put to room temperature water? IE cold shower feels warm, but hot shower feels cold?
Do you know what “burning cold” means? At the extreme temperatures, it’s hard to immediately distinguish hot from cold.
In relation to Harem, I presume the feelings of the clones are not immediate or direct, or more precisely, they are managed, else she would not be able to control them separately enough to create independent presences.
Speaking of her intention to take “double shower”, your though is likely right, alternating the feel of hot and cold shower without messing with handles and enduring the short period of temperature change could be very refreshing. I’ve heard of people kind of addicted to contrast shower.
In Scandewegian parts they like to clear ice from a pool, take a sauna next to it, then run out and dive in for a nice refreshing doggy paddle!
Harem experiences all of the sensations from each of her bodies as being her own. Using the term ‘clone’ may conjure up an impression of ‘me and them’, whereas to her they are all ‘me’. Whilst clearly she does have separate processing for each body,* to be able to tell which one is experiencing which sensation, when she is focused on the sensations she feels them all simultaneously.
Check out the first restaurant scene, for the examples for taste. Or the super-wedgie for pain.
* Otherwise all of them would pull up short to avoid a wall (that was not in front of most of them), for example. Or would all find themselves jumping to one side to avoid traffic, even though only one body was at risk.
It’s entirely possible that Sydney rolled triple natural 20’s with that gazorpazovum punch… (nonlethal damage)
Luke Skywalker/Thermal Vent type hit?
Lucky it didn’t kill her!
I wonder what IS Sydney’s Metachlorian Count anyway?…
Over 9000? o_O
*midichlorian. sneaks out of the room.
Time to sharpen the pitchforks, boil the tar and pluck the chickens…
Panel two, far right. That would appear to be an unfamiliar blonde… unless Arianna?
I think it’s a Harem, giving herself a helping hand in the shower.
Not in the Who’s Who, so must be another Harem.
But if the blonde on the far rights is harem and the pinky to the left of her is also Harem, who is the blonde Harem asking the question to? I mean, if they’re both Harms and blonde is asking pinky, this is the first I’ve seen her literally talking to herself, but I can’t figure out who else she’d be asking the question to. And even if she did do that, I’d imagine she’d do it amongst people who didn’t know they were her, outside Arc. Though even as I write, I guess.rapcious AILMENT fits the noodle to the eye better than the cut from the enemy. It just seems a weird thing to say here.
I know both Sidney and pinky have gone to the doc, but pinky is clearly still wearing the cast/brace, and a reference to spicy noodle to the eye doesn’t seem right, though I guess it could fit. I’d just expect a reference to heat for Sydney mishap rather than aggressiveness. Though, now.
Also compare the shades of blonde. The Harem-that-is-blonde maintains more of a platinum blonde, whereas this gal is more of a honey blonde. Hence why I thought Arianna.
Ari doesn’t have freckles, besides, why would she shower with the troops? She’s probably also got a private shower (pays to be the company lawyer who oversees these sorts of things :P )
Both reasons why my second take was a flavor of ‘wait, who is that?’
Just remember, there is a white-haired Daphne, and a blonde-Daphne, and the yellowing of Blondini could be down to DaveB‘s changing of ‘ink’ (Ari also started out as a more pale cream-colour, but as we saw a few pages ago, she too has now gone yellow)
As to the why would she shower with the troops question, I’m still wondering the same thing from when she was included in the who’s who on page 577 when Sidney’s talking to apparently Arriana in a bath robe. Granted, they seem to be overlooking a lobby, but I got the impression they were both near/going to/coming from (obviously not the last of those for Sidney) communal showers.
I think Guisticus‘s argument holds water, in that Arianna probably has her private shower en suite in her quarters.
So clearly her having entered the communal area is anomalous. But easily explainable if she were scouting to see if the coast was clear for Suzy News to slip out. Making sure that Sydney’s attention was focused on the common room would give Suzy a chance to make a discreet exit, in another direction.
A news anchor clearly does have time constraints, hence Arianna may not have had the time to get changed.
Should one of Dabbler’s arms grab Maxima’s towel?!?
She’s a pervert, not suicidal.
Am I the only one that is seeing a Dabblers head/hair/ears ending up looking like a Christmas tree?
Shouldn’t that be “more aggressive than”?
Lok at the ornaments on those trees.
You miscounted. There are four (or maybe five depending on whether you count the two Harems separately), not just trees.
Yes, my wish is to climb those trees and paw the ornaments like a cat.
The Christmas gift I was hoping for! Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, and a Happy New Year!
Mery Christmas, Happy Holiday, and so on and so forth. I’ve been told to walk it off once or twice, which isn’t fun if you are really hurting.
Why is Max wasting her time? Can’t she just get Harem to teleport Dabbler to wherever she needs to be and be done with it?
Harem can’t teleport with a passenger.
Except for Varia, who’s a special case.
Wonder if she could teleport while wearing Icon? Probably too heavy… but maybe if there was only one of her?
And even if she could, Dabbler is still naked, and if she’s not just sandbagging, may be in too much pain to think about using her glamour to cover herself up. Which is a good excuse not to teleport her outside the shower room.
Also, I think I see a few grammatical glitches in the dialogue. Blond Harem in panel 2, her dialogue doesn’t sound right. Also, Sydney’s comment about her Foot in Mouth in panel 4, shouldn’t that be ‘its an accident’ not ‘its on accident’?
I think “on accident” is the British version of American “by accident”.
English is a goofy language.
“on purpose” and “by accident” should use the same first word but don’t.
On accident is something we Midwesterners say frequently
. o (Just like now.) I apparently was too blinded by the cheesecake to punctuate the last comment. I left it out on accident.
Some. Not all. Of course, in Minnesota, where we drink “pop”, most of us do it on purpose, and not by accident.
I ‘spect you do it purposely, not accidentally.
Biblically speaking, Angels are Spirit Creatures that can’t physically harmed by nature. [spoiler (Though they can be destroyed, as that shall one day happen to Satan and his Angels a.k.a the Demons)] They can take physical form, and if said physical form had wings and somehow those wings ended up been cut off, then they probably give themselves new ones.
Closest thing in the Bible to an Angel been permanently injured is Jesus still having holes in his body from the nails in his crucifixion after been resurrected by his dad. [spoiler (In case you’re wondering many scriptures make it clear that Jesus Christ & Jehovah God are separate entites, one example been Philippians 2: 5-11) ] But even then, the only time these scars were mentioned when he was showing them to the Apostle Thomas after Thomas had specifically requested to see them as proof that he was Jesus, considering that he appear before his Apostles & Disciples in numerous forms and nail holes were never mentioned in the them, even though his hands & feet were at one point it’s likely that he just reformed those wounds for the sake of Thomas’s reassurance.
Hope that gives you a good answer to your question, Dave. Maxima probably wouldn’t even get to say “Fly it off” as the Angel likely would’ve just grown new ones. Not sure about the Twilight Council’s “Angels” though…
I don’t think the Bible is canon in the Grrlverse. Dave’s angels and demons obviously differ from the biblical description, so only your last sentence is relevant to the question.
According to Dave, the Council’s “Angels” were just posing as Biblical Angels, so it’s possible the Bible is canon in Grrlverse.
Though still ask Dave to be sure
The big issue about having the Abrahamic religions be truth in any ‘kitchen sink’ setting, is that they preclude anything greater. Can’t have any Great Old Ones, can’t have anybody else’s Creation Story be true (so no giant geese or maggots of the world), and it also then begs the question of how involved the Lord of All and his Hosts are.
Lesser gods and spiritual beings can be around and doing stuff, but it just opens a lot of questions to the viewer, especially as the Abrahamic God is said to be both Good and Lawful- why then allow daemons to run around, or lesser deities to teach heresies?
One of the reasons it bugs me that Marvel pays lip service in its comics.
Look Punisher and the F4 have met angels and God, and Nighcrawler goes to heaven.
When we’ve met the Living Tribunal, Eternity, Infinity, and they keep introducing this and that elder god. It feels out of place.
Like I’d never expect Tenchi Muyo or Slayers to suddenly proclaim the Abrahamic religions as existing in their settings as (true) religions when we know about the Chousin and Kami Tenchi (Tenchi Muyo), and The Lord of Nightmares (Slayers) as the all powerful creators of their multiverses.
It creates an un-needed limitation to your story to adhere to real world religions. Like adhering to real world political figures, celebrities, businesses, physics, ect… use them as a frame work sure but if Marvel wants a President Kelly, or for DC and Marvel to have a few extra countries that don’t exist and corporations then it can extend up the ladder to religions.
Butt, did Kurt go to the Heaven? Or to a place he believed to be Heaven?
When you have multiple religions, why can’t you have Jehovah as well? Why does it have to be multiple beliefs or Jehovah? By saying that, you are drawing an absolute state in which they can not co-exist
If you can accept the possibility of Multi-Pantheons, why can Jehovah not be part of that? Why does He have to only exist in a monotheistic system?
Nice to see someone willing to call Jehovah God by his name :)
Mum is a Witness, so, it’s allowed :D
I have seen it as one of many pantheons but this tends to draw ire from religious groups and people. One reason its seldom seen and usually its either it exists or it doesn’t exist in the setting.
Basically people insist that Jehovah, Yahweh, Allah, the tetra grammatron or whatever title you want to call it by has to be “omnipotent”, which puts it at odds with a story that has multitudes of pantheons and reality warpers, and watchers over the multiverse, ect… When you don’t make it omnipotent you have the people who have a hissyfit about it (like making it some super or other god that just SAID it was omnipotent because it was powerful enough people wouldn’t know the difference anyway especially back then) and it would have been easier to either not include it or just allude to something like it….
like when Star Gate SG-1 would bring it up, (there could be something about the Ancients…despite the Ancients doing things bigger than anything directly described as witnessed in the bible…every religion has a creation story so I don’t count it as an observable feat), or when Teal’c said he read the Bible and claimed no Goa’uld could copy the miracles described in it….despite reveals prior and since then that yes the Goa’uld with their tech easily could have done everything described in the Old Testament and New Testament if they wanted using their tech.
Basically it can be done, but 9 times out of 10 it was either not worth the bother or was awkward like a show or comic stepping on egg shells. Which is the problem using any still big and politically/major socially active religion in the culture where the media is made for said media. I mean you can call Thor an alien and have a video game character kill Zeus, but if those were major religions of the modern western world you likely wouldn’t see those happen, hence adding a limitation to your setting.
Makes sense
Wait… are you saying that the Goa’uld could do stuff like resurrect people who had been dead for at least a few days, make water spring forth from dry, barren rock & even stop the Sun for an ENTIRE day?
I think the critical element for those is the limited knowledge of the observer reporting the event in question. Lazarus for example could have been in some sort of coma with his heart rate reduced enough to be undetectable without modern medical equipment. Even with modern medical technology people are sometimes declared dead only to later awaken. In biblical times it might not have taken anything more advanced than smelling salts to revive someone who had been declared dead days before.
It’s not inconceivable that a species with holographic projection technology could make it appear to a region of the world that the sun had not moved for 24 hours, simply by projecting the holographic sun from orbit.
It’s likewise not inconceivable that a rock could be the focus of a device intended to condense water from the air. If it can be done with a glass of ice water, the same principles can apply to a stone.
We already know that the Goa’uld had the tech to revive the dead, although more than a week might be pushing it.
Griffon
1) You assume that just because people aren’t technologically advanced or have a deep understanding of science, then they’re stupid. People can tell when other people are dead, on thing they could’ve done back then was to hold something metal over their mouth to check if Lazarus was breathing.
2) Lazarus was wrapped up in bandages then thrown into a cave that was sealed up and was stuck in there for four days! He would’ve run out of air.
3) Jesus never went in the tomb, nor did he send anyone in. He just had some people open up the tomb and asked Lazarus to come out, so using bath salts couldn’t of been used.
4) Lazarus was well known to be dead by a lot of people, and he was resurrected right in front of them, and they saw him walk up to Jesus and his family, no one approached Lazarus, so faking it would’ve been really hard
Caffeinedellusions, The water coming out of the rock was enough for thousands of people and their animals, it seems to be a bit too much effort when they could’ve just made it rain, and while you could make the argument that what was actually done was just opening up an underground water spring, keep in mind that the Israelites by that point had been in the wilderness for nearly forty years by that point, so they likely would’ve been familiar with checking for such springs
It’s also entirely possible that the spring tapped may’ve been deeper than they could detect or access, but that a good suite of advanced sensors and a beam weapon would’ve had no trouble with. Not all underground springs are created alike.
Good points Titan.
2) is the only weak one, as tomb builders are not known to hermetically seal tombs. Air could seep in through any cracks or gaps.
Further someone in a comatose state would only have minimal air requirements. Thus extending the period they could survive, even if it were totally airtight. Likewise we do not know the dimensions of the tomb, so (on multiple counts) cannot credibly make a statement, that suffocation categorically would occur..
Not that my reply should be seen as undermining your reply in general. It is just a tip to avoid including any points which can be easily challenged. Critics can seize upon such and imply that its weakness is a sign that the whole argument is flawed.
The length of time in the tomb is a point which can be used to support the other arguments, but people can survive four days without food or water, and you failed to prove the point about the air, unequivocally. So personally I would have omitted that one.
But nice job on the others.
Marvel got into a bit of trouble once when they were throwing deities from a lot of non-Abrahamic religions into a Thor story and included some Hindu ones in that mix at the same level of power as the [basically no longer worshipped] Norse, Greek, and Ancient Egyptian ones. Either they’d forgotten that Hinduism does still have a lot of followers or they didn’t expect any of those to be reading the comics, but anyway apparently they received enough complaints that they felt it necessary to backtrack and say something like “No, that wasn’t the real Shiva”….
yep, its also why the God Squad was walking on egg shells when using Shinto and Hawaiian deities. Its one thing to use figures from religions that are no longer major, although yes there are still people who worship the Norse, Greek, and Kemetic gods, they just aren’t very large vocal groups.
In a similar vein, always preferred the DC Universe where they had Gotham instead of New York City, Metropolis instead of Washington DC (or Chicago as some believe)
DC was, POO, a much better universe when they had their own cities, like they were truly an alternate (or parallel) Universe
yeah, I heard that officially the DC Earth is bigger than the real world Earth so they have these extra cities and countries squeezed in between the real ones, as opposed to Marvel who overlaps them, like Wakanda takes up space where several real countries would be.
but that said, I always prefer to use fictional cities even when using Earth as a setting as it frees up any need to research streets and locations and real buildings and local city laws and such…and the problems there of.
It also reduces the risk that one of the locals will take offense and decide to assassinate you!
I think Rhuen answered your first inquiry quite well, so I’ll give you links to answer the second:
Why Does God Allow Evil and Suffering?
Does God Approve of All Religions?
THE BIBLE’S VIEWPOINT: Religion
Whoops… something went wrong wth the HTML code I was using, I’ll just give you the links straight up:
– https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20140101/why-god-allows-suffering/#?insight%5Bsearch_id%5D=7006b256-8920-481f-a614-101d2e78b598&insight%5Bsearch_result_index%5D=4
– https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/road-to-life/does-god-approve-all-religions/#?insight%5Bsearch_id%5D=f757c84f-9645-45ad-b1f3-2d22832adca4&insight%5Bsearch_result_index%5D=6
– https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/g201407/religion/#?insight%5Bsearch_id%5D=df460220-ec26-4ee6-a56e-eb07492a336c&insight%5Bsearch_result_index%5D=7
Meh, Transcyclopian moonshine tastes better served with mutton and toasted cheese.
What?
Or maybe a nice Stygian Pickle.
Keep your feet on the ground Peggy.
Thanks Dave for the lovely christmas gift of big two big musclewomen in towels.
To any Gwenpool fans in this thread, Marvel has annoced it is going to cancel her series
If you wanna help avoid this Sign the Petition: Save Gwenpool from Cancellation
you almost had me until you referred to SJWs in the same context that you were trying to convince me to save a comic about a woman cast in a role atypical of the roles usually made for women in comics
Hit me with a petition to cancel Marvel, then we’ll talk.
I don’t care WHAT your politics are, please keep them out of my escapism.
It is much easier than you think to “save” that comic Titan. Just buy it! Been LOTS of comics saved from cancelation because they mentioned to the fans that cancelation was imminent. Said fans bought the comic – recommended it like mad… and comic saved! Happened at least twice that I know of to “Spider-girl” before the final cancelation took.
Its also the reason why some comics keep getting restarted. She-Hulk is a good example. But as for Gwenpool, I’m kinda ambivalent on her character. Not really much for me to grab onto IMO. Actuall Marvel could do with trimming a good 10-15 titles IMO. Maybe use that talent to boost the qualities of there other titles.
And shameless plug my collection would do Sydney proud, 11k and counting. :)
I know a guy who owns a comic book store. According to him, Gwenpool is his worst selling Marvel title by a wide margin. It’s not a surprise that it’s getting canned.
It came on the heels of Lady Deadpool, Dogpool, Zombie head-pool, and a kidpool, and at the height of the whole alt-Gwynns thing (of which most were just cover art jokes) thanks to Spider-Gwynn. the whole Gwynpool thing was a joke that caught a little bit of steam; but seeing as her gag is exactly the same as Deadpool’s and the whole “Oh I’m the female version” bit was done by Lady Deadpool, and the third *oh I’m an alt-Gwen* is filled by Spider-Gwen (where it makes more sense thematically), she really doesn’t fill any niche other than (side joke character).
And Deadpool is crazy enough that his sociopathic behavior become funny. Gwenpool mostly comes across as teenage loser who’s trying to make herself feel better by being an ass to people because she knows they’re better than she is.
Does that last part remind you of anyone? Someone with, say, seven floating balls?
Question is: are they getting rid of the character entirely? Or just her title? Nothing to stop them from bringing her back in occasional mini-series, or simply as a guest-star in other titles, sometimes, a minor sub-side-character has only a limited story-line and then they run out of ideas, better to let them end naturally than to try and stretch out a quickly tiring joke (look at “Seinfeld” for example: that waste of viewing space started out as simply a 45 minute stand-alone special, the reason why it was called “The Show About Nothing” was because that was exactly it, a show about nothing)
Most likely just the title, no character seems to go away forever. Hell just look at Squirrel girl, that character was a joke character from day one. How else to you explain a girl with a tail sharp nails and can talk to squirrels taking down the likes of Wolverine, Dr. Doom or Galactus?
She’ll still be around. but most likely a much reduced appearance or will crop up in an Holiday annual or something.
Yeah, Squirrel Girl’s first appearance was a one-shot intended to convey and look like a Silver Age comic during a time when comics were firmly in the “Dark Ages” of gritty, bloody, and “serious”. Why she ended up being shelved after for nearly a decade, only to come back as a joke character among a joke team like someone had shoved a Silver Age hero (can solve any problem, and defeat any foe, no matter how out matched they should be),
however since she became popular they actually nerfed her a lot, I mean her defeat of Galactus was done pretty much the same way Reed Richards has done it, befriend Galactus and lead him to another source of nourishment…Squirrel Girl just called him out on this being his motive to come to Earth…threaten Earth, they find you another planet faster than any herald ever has…like fast food takeout. where as before during the GLA era she might have pummeled him off panel or had Mr. Immortal mention her beating him in passing like Korvac and Ego the Living Planet…which even I think goes a tad far.
But yeah they’ve stuck her in with the Avengers and her own title for now, and this comes back to Gwenpool…a hyper active college student super with a large array of powers who can break the fourth wall *Squirrel Girl like She-hulk “under contract” only allowed to do it between pages or side bars*…yeah niche has Squirrel Girl in it already, and she’s not a derivative of another character…and Gwenpool is a triple derivative (Deadpool, Gwen Stacey, Spider-Gwen),
on Wolverine…meh. I loved Wolverine back in the day, but his popularity based power boosts were insane. His strength was a low C-class, his healing factor B-class, he was a tough as nails guy, but back in the day he could have been killed by a strong enough shot, and stuff he walks away from now and regenerates from in moments would have been fatal. Heck watch the 90’s cartoon where he took nearly a week to recover from a gut shot. Yeah he fully healed, its a “healing factor” not supposed to be regeneration.
Squirrel Girl was designed to be at about Bronze Age Spider-man’s level of power, plus talking to squirrels. So it makes sense she can overpower guys like Wolverine and Deadpool.
actually reminds me more of you.
Is Max concerned that this isn’t *OUR* Dabbler?
No. Previous strip Max said Dabbler has sworn to catch her in the nude and is known to have a camera function in her prosthetic eye.
She is supposed to be helping ARC-Light with investigating the vault incident but went to the showers instead because her porno-sense was tingling.
She is also supposed to be ‘helping’ ARC-Light figure out what went wrong with Jabbers
Just because they were naked in the showers (most people get naked when taking a shower) does not mean there was anything for her porno-sense to pick up on
Have a merry and enjoyable worldend!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptP0OR-e7rI
Happy belated or early whatever you celebrate!
I think Peggy’s hair has become a new level of spiky… Did she go super Saiyan and not tell anyone?
No, just wet
Ben a very long while since I commented. Just chiming in on the sciency aspect in the musings below the comments. When you take a hold of one thing that is hot and one thing that is cold at the exact same time your brain interprets the hot thing as being hotter than it actually is and it can feel like you are being burned when you are actually not. — There is a display at a local kids science museum that does exactly this. It has an array of small copper pipes running parallel and one set is chilled and the other slightly heated. It’s a very odd sensation.
I meant the musings below the comic… it’s still early and my brain is not fully on.
Does that take into account the differences in how the central nervous system is wired up between human & hybrid succubus anatomy?
;)
LOL, I was looking to see if anyone had made this comment yet. We have a similar display at the local science museum, and that was the first thing i thought of when I read Dave’s comment.
Maxima: … Hey, Peggy, stop making out with Sydney!
*Dabbler leaps to her feet* What? Where? Pretty sure I would sensed tha-
*Maxima punches her in the OTHER gazorpazovum*
Dabbler: OOOG! No fair! This time the pain is real!! Although, Sydney’s embarrassment is kinda nice…
Sydney: *blushing* HEY! If I’m embarrassed, it’s about my ‘foot in mouth’ faux pas, not about… about…
Peggy: *leans in, leering* Yeeeeeees?
Sydney: *turns beet red* G… stop that!!
Dabbler: …So good…
Maxima: Don’t make me punch you again.
Dabbler: *smiles shyly* Yes, ma’am.
first, merry xmas
second,, peggy’s face in last panel,, wow
third,,fan service galore :)
*do what he think Math voice sound’s like* i hope this shower scene never end… and merry christmas!!
Awesome page. Also
MERRY CHRISTMAS!!
I’ve never heard that called ‘sandbagging’ before.
The military class ‘faking an injury’ as ‘sandbagging’, probably from the First World War when soldiers would shoot their foot through a sandbag to get taken off the Front Line
In their defense… wouldn’t you be tempted to do that, if the alternative was being sent over the line?
Especially depending on the situation in the war. In “All Quiet on the Western Front,” the protagonist spends some time in a military hospital, and the doctors were focused on getting them sent back no matter their condition. Guy with a missing leg gets told he’s “A1 – cleared for duty,” and responds with a sarcastic comment about the doctor’s intelligence.
Today the United States and the majority of their NATO allies rely on all-volunteer forces. Meaning not as many soldiers not wanting to be there in the first place.
Didn’t say it was wrong, was simply explaining where the term possibly originated from, and a large number of Great War soldiers (at least in the beginning) were eager volunteers, you even had kids as young as 14 falsifying their ages and identity to join up, and most times the military didn’t care (it was only when their mothers started complaining, months after they enlisted, that they started sending the kids back, if they could find them alive)
DaveB… Thanks for putting in the extra effort in lettering Dabbler’s dialog.
Also… If possible…
Make “…and not the good kind.” her catchphrase.
shouldn’t harem have said *ailment “THAT” brought you. instead of WHAT brought you?
Nope, ‘what’ is valid
Probably picked is up from watching too much BBC.
It can be both.
And ‘fell’ can’t be? o_O
One requires tense to be acknowledged, the other doesn’t.
Tense has as much relevance as grammar
No, it doesn’t here. It’s clearly about the past tense in this comic.
Fell can be used two different ways.
1) The past tense of fall. That’s not what it is being used for here.
2) The present tense, when used with an object (ie, ‘our mighty adventurer’) of ‘to strike down’
Since fell is being used for the past tense, and it’s not meaning #1, then the word should be ‘felled’ – the past tense of ‘to strike down’ since it’s being used with an object afterwards.
Also, using ‘what’ or ‘that’ with the following words ‘brought you’ doesn’t change the meaning of the words being used, unlike fell.
Merry Christmas!
Happy non-existent deity day! Regardless of which non-existent deity you choose to believe in, I wish you a happy day of delusion. I know that I’m only on target for the celebration day of one particular non-existent deity, but believe me when I say that the others don’t care if I miss their actual celebration days by a day or a week or a few months. Because they do not exist.
Hope the non-existent demi-god brought you many real presents. Heh.
art imitates life, what is life? life is art.
all things create music of their own, cadence, beat, rhythm. music is art.
if art is something created, and not something that exists on its own, isn’t life the same?
just conjecture.
Really don’t believe that Dabbles is ‘sandbagging’, drag her off to the Docs to get her looked at (and strapped down for the duration of Maxi’s shower)
Dabbler is not too hurt if she can still make a sexual inuendo comment.
I suspect that not even death would stop Dabbler from making sexual innuendo comments.
Now picturing Dabbler flirting with a Shinigami.
I wouldn’t be surprised if she’s dated a few psychopomps.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ImpressionableIncompatibleFinnishspitz-poster.jpg
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the fanfic must be made, not by me, but by someone.
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Berry is still in cast, so can’t be long after the Restaurant Rumble, unless the injury was greater than SuperDoc could fix
Jew here.
Don’t know where to get you a Zoroastrian.
Iran?
The Zoroastrian religion was wiped out (outlawed or killed) by the Christians in the middle east, before they in turn were pushed out or killed when Islam became the state religion.
But hey, when Zoroastrianism was made the state religion they did the same to the followers of the Mesopotamian and Sumerian gods so everyone’s an asshole in the end really.
Incorrect.
Zoroastrianism was still the official religion in the Sassanid Empire (Iran, parts of Iraq, parts Central Asia, and sometimes more), even though there were Christians present in some of those land as well, right up until the Islamic take-over. There’s still a small Zoroastrian minority inIran, tolerated on the same basis as other ‘Peoples of the Book’, and a group who fled persecution in Medieval times by moving to India gave rise to today’s Parsi [i.e. “Persian”] sect there.
double checking,
I stand corrected.
Interestingly a heretical sub-sect, the Mazdaks were the first socialists.
I tried to intuit this out once and got as far as figuring out that it has to do with there existing a subtle distinction between the kinds of nouns “accident” and “purpose” are.
(And “on purpose” is the unusual one. We have plenty of other “by” words, like “by mistake”, “by design”, “by fiat”, “by royal decree”, “by way of”, and so on, but the only “on” words that readily come to mind aside from “on purpose” are “on consignment” and “on commission”.)
Also, according to respondents on this English StackExchange question, it’s not only America-specific, but specific to Americans under 40. (And even the Corpus of Contemporary American English only has 34 instances of it compared to 1419 of “by accident”)
Outside that demographic, people agree that it’s just plain wrong. (Which explains why I think it’s wrong. I’m a Canadian in my 30s.)
Thanks for answering my 9:30am post.
I did click “reply” but the system didn’t place my comment correctly for whatever reason.
(Let’s see if it makes the same mistake again.)
Merry Christmas to those of you who celebrate such. Season’s Greetings/Happy Holidays to many of the rest of you. Happy New Year to one and all, no matter which calendar you use.
I am pretty certain that Max was not the only military person to use the joke, “Walk it off”. We tend towards more of a gallows humor, due to our line of work. Plus, sensitive people tend not to make it past Basic Training… something about how the drill sergeants treat recruits, I’m guessing.
my 17 year old brother got in a car accident and broke his pelvis and i told him to walk it off.
That’s brotherly love, there. :)
Apparently I’m the token Celtic Pagan.
So in the spirit of the season…
HAPPY CHRISKWANZHAUNNASATURNALYULSOLSTICA!!!
There, now everyone can be equally offended. Even the ones I missed through thoughtlessness, ignorance, or intent.
Not sure why anyone wants to say other holidays on the same day as Christmas. December 25. It’s literally Christmas. I’m fine with saying Merry Christmas, and I’m Jewish on my mother’s side, buddhist on my father’s side.
It’s not Kwanzaa. That’s December 26 – January 1.
It’s not Hannukah. That was December 12 – December 20.
It’s not Winter Solstice. That was December 21.
It’s not Saturnalia. Aside from the fact that it’s literally not celebrated by anyone still living anymore, it was December 17-December 23.
So just say Merry Christmas. No need to hate on the Christians.
Wasn’t it Mithrasmas?
Mithraism hasn’t been worshiped as a deity since the 4th century BCE :) And there was no holiday celebrating the god Mithra that took place on December 25th, sorry :)
AGNOSTICA IS OFFENDED AT YOUR LACK OF CONCERN!
I’m pretty sure that Agnostica doesn’t care one way or another. And Athe probably doesn’t believe I said anything.
You don’t get to draw from the sack of fun, Pander.
NO FESTIVUS?!?!?!
Not even for the restofus :P
And Pander? OBJECTION!! Blaydewind specified ‘season’, not ‘day’
Happy Krampus avoidance day!
That was December 5th. Krampus Nacht, which is the night before The Feast of Saint Nicholaus (December 6th)
your next one to fear is Frau Perchta on the night of January 5th, the night before the Feast of the Epiphany on January 6th.
I like you, rhuen. :)
On the exact day of Christmas. It basically ignores the actual day that is being celebrated, in order to sate a politically correct viewpoint.
It would be as if you invite someone to your birthday party, on the day of your birth, and because Washington’s Birthday and Lincoln’s birthday is NEAR the same time, you say ‘Happy Holiday for births! or ‘Happy WashLincYour Birth Season!’ Just seems to be trying to be a bit of a jerk to the actual day that being celebrated, just because it happens to not be the sayer’s birthday. :)
No, it’s not the same thing at all, Blaydewind was talking about the holiday season, which typically includes New Years
Nope. He said it on December 25th. What happens on December 25th?
and no one says “Happy Holidays” AFTER December 25th in the USA. Because as far as they care the holidays are over.
Although the 26th and 27th are the Feast of St. Stephen (depending on which Catholic sect you ask) *west or east*. and we are also in the 12 days of Christmas right now.
This whole month and a chunk of January is or nearly is all holidays to someone.
Festivus took place on December 23rd, according to Seinfeld.
Ooh, Peggy is back and looking scrumptious, especially in the last panel. Beating Sydney even (suffering a definite uncanny valley problem with her anime style big eyes).
Mind you panel 2 has the whole cast looking great, and droopy Dabbler is amusing in panel 1, so lots more good than missing the mark.
Merry Xmas all!
The problem with Sydney’s eyes it what happens when anime eyes frown (which is what she is doing after tasting fresh-washed foot)
Another part is the close proximity to normal eyes. If all the cast have anime eyes, then you get used to it. This is an instance where Dave’s mix and match technique hit a snag. Much though I like the concept otherwise.
And God bless ya Dave, whereas other webcomics I like, such as PITW, have fallen so far behind in some ways it’s not even funny, you deliver 2x a week like near clockwork! Now if you could only come to NYCC some year…..