Grrl Power #563 – Trojan hillbilly
Thus ends the saga of Coot, cause you know, in the history of comics, no one has ever come back from definitely being dead like this. I mean, he blew up. He wasn’t caught in an explosion, he was the warhead.
Sciona gave Cooter a potion to drink before sending him through the portal. Said it would let him see things no one else can see, do things no one else can do, and was chocked full wind, fire and lots of fiber. And by fiber she meant explosive tentacles. Technically fibrous, so, only a bit of a lie. Cooter was busy making a joke about how anything full of fiber makes him full of wind, so at least we can respect him for that.
This page may be my sound effect record for me. I’m sure in the annals of comic history, there are pages which put this one to shame. It’s hard not to imagine there’s a Groo page or something similar that’s all black panels with about 15 onomatopoeias per panel. Maybe some cartoon eyes showing.
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Gory. Sciona really doesn’t mess around when there is brute force solution available.
Blood mages always mess around, when they mess around.
Messy is kind of their MO.
“Did he err?”
~ Groo
Did someone say cheese dip?
He looks more like mulch.
Cootie pie got baked.
And not in the fun way.
Some crystals cause catastrophic vorch, others shoot painful zorch.
When your in the lorch, try Blorch! It’s the orch lorch gablorch!
Sorry Coot. This one’s on you. The outcome was obvious, everyone else saw it coming. You, a self proclaimed monster hater, allowed yourself to be duped by monsters.
Remember his introduction? He didn’t see them as monsters, literally (the Veil was hiding their identity), he believed them to be fellow Monster Hunters, and he wasn’t calling out Sci-fright in the second last panel, but the dirty trapping monsters he was hunting
He remarked that Chuckles told him that the gang was ‘willing to off yourself once we’ve cleaned house’
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He knew they were monsters
he thought ONE of them was a monster, the “self-hating type”, and that said monster was going to kill itself when the hunt was over. the rest of the group he saw as human hunters. he specifically is pointing at / referring to ONE of the team.
I’m sure even he realised that some monsters appeared human, I.e vampires.
Though whether he did nor not, he knew at least one was a monster, and should have suspected the rest regardless of their appearance. Still on him.
oh i agree, he was stupid. even if he was convinced only one of them was a monster, that still should have been a red flag. either there was a great chance said monster would double cross them / sabotage the plan, or the whole group was in on screwing him over. but makes more sense that he was fooled into thinking there was an odd monster in the group than him willingly joining a whole (clan? group? coven? not sure what a collection of monsters would be called) of them.
Yeah, he was stupid, he was told the ‘lone’ monster was wanting to die when the mission was completed
“Hey Y’all! Hold by beer and WATCH THIS!” -Typical Hillbilly, Last words.
The term “ablative pointman” was first used in “The Whiteboard” a paintball and techie web comic run by Doc Nickel. https://www.the-whiteboard.com/
I think it is appropriate to use the term to refer to unlamented Cooter.
Haven’t read that webic in years
When I played D&D, we called them ‘dwarves’.
reminds me of a great item I was allowed to create: the cursed dwarven shield of hurling. when you threw it, it took you along (spinning all the while) and you had to make a saving throw to keep from..well…hurling (good thing dwarves have such great constitutions)
It was why I felt that a cursed sword +1 was not that bad, as cursed items go. It would allow you to defeat otherwise invincible enemies (if they required a magical weapon to hit), plus nobody could disarm you. Or at least whenever you tried to attack it would reappear in your hand, which is effectively the same thing.
OK it precluded you using other weapons, but if you are a low-level warrior with only a limited range of options, it was still a pretty good choice to keep the sword, rather than having the curse removed. I think I would wait until I had at least a +2 sword (of my preferred type) before upgrading.
Plus I would ensure that the remove curse was cast on my character, rather than the weapon, so that it broke the connection, but without removing the property from the weapon. That way it could be stashed in an emergency cache of supplies, for use in an emergency.
Or retrieve it for a specialist situation, such as infiltrating somewhere that weapons are prohibited. Just be sure to avoid any fights, until the mission critical one, that you needed the weapon for.
Onomatopoeia overload…. still and all, “Cassiopeia Quinn” recently had “LANGELAAAN!” as an Unsound Effect for teleportation, which is pretty
Is Coot our first on screen death? Because what an opening.
He’s the first confirmed death full stop
Yeah, he opened right up, didn’t he?
:D
Don’t forget that war Lord that Deus assassinated.
What assassination? It was in self defense …. in a proactive manner. >_>
No, the warlord ordered him out of the country, he wasn’t going to kill Deus if he left peacefully. I mean he was a piece of work who not even his son is mourning, but it wasn’t self defense.
It was self-defense.
Of his business interest.
Corporate personhood self defense.
saw a “funny bumper stickers” video recently that had one that i really liked… “I’ll believe that Corporations are People, when Texas finally Executes one!”
Oooh, I like that one!
ha, but don’t forget, execute also refers to beginning something!
You mean ‘that warlord that had a tragic heart attack while Deus was in the room’?
Such a tragedy.
So… what, exactly, was the point of THAT?
To blow up the turrets. What else?
Yup, Sci-fright needed a live subject to trigger the traps, and a way to remove them
If the plan worked the turrets got taken out while shooting up Coot, or if not then Coot gets shot to pieces first, but either way, they didn’t much like Coot, so it was a win-win scenario.
There’s no d “bulge” unless “buldge” is some weird onomatopoeic word I’m unfamiliar with.
d IN “bulge”
“There’s a ‘D’ in my bulge, if you know what I mean!”
~ Cooter ‘The Knee Buckler’ Jones
There’s a D in my bulge dear Liza, dear Liza…..
So for weapons, we had:
Fire
Electricity
Freeze ray ([pre-broken)
Injection darts with something
Disintegration ray
Wood? spikes/bullets
The disintegration didn’t do much damage. Well, to us it would have, but many beings still work well with big holes ripped into them. Would have hoped for a weapon that tore a larger hole, but that’s probably down to the salesman misselling the disintegrator ray.
It’s hard to tell, but it seems to be aimed at his heart.
What’s better than a wooden stake through the heart? A disintegration beam through the heart.
Would still need to have some wood jammed in the hole though . After all, a metal stake would be easier to drive through the heart than a wooden one and doubt that vampire hunters are fans of all things retro and refuse to upgrade their weaponry.
The timing matters, here.
What if you regenerate really well, and require a stake through the heart, but it got disintegrated first? Then you’d be fine (but hurt a lot I guess) until you regenerated THEN got shot with the right weapon without a hole making the organ non-existent.
Complaint call back to the ACME home defense corporation:
“Where’s the kaboom? There was supposed to be an Earth shattering kaboom!”
I think I see a nerf dart in panel 2, on the right, going “thuk”, which would sound about right.
From the color, I think your “nerf dart” is full of some sort of horrible toxins.
Well, of course. There’s probably not that many evil super(natural) villains that can be taken out by a non-weaponized nerf missile of any caliber.
That noted, it seems on second look it may be a round from that 1950’s era rocket pistol that is so rare. I forget the details on it, even the correct name.
The rocket pistol would have been the Gyrojet. Short range, brought a whole new meaning to the word ‘inaccurate’.
I must say I’m not impressed by those.
First of all, most of them are single target weapons. It does not mean mass teleporting a bunch of cannon fodder would be enough to destroy them but it would cause some damage.
Secondly, all of those are still mostly conventional. Sure, there is a large array of weapons that will find the elemental vulnerability of most fantastic beings, but they all work on the concept of throwing things at you. An (opaque) shield could probably block most of these attacks. If I had to choose some magic traps for an universal vault, I’d probably add some less conventional weaponry such as [Teleportation Array to Outer Space], [Strong desiccant a.k.a Mummy Stone], or the default Dwarf Fortress solutions [Pour Lava On It] and lastly [Encase Room in Obsidian]. -> Eventually a vault defense mechanism is meant to delay the intruder until security arrives. Sealing the room in stone seems like a decent delaying measure.
Lastly, the fact that throwing in it a self destruct robot (or in this case a self destruct Coot) can wipe out the primary defense mechanism seems like a serious conception problem.
With how out of the way this vault is, I doubt it can rely on delay tactics and hoping for reinforcements.
Maybe you have to realise: the reason why everything was thrown at Coot, was because the detectors couldn’t tell what type of supernatural he was
If you have an intruder in the killroom, why would you ever hold back with weapons that might not be super efficient?
When there are waves of them. You ammo supply will be finite.
True, but the ammo doesn’t NEED to be infinite here. If the alarm system had actually alarmed to the Council, there would have been a fairly quick response, in which case, the ammo can be re-supplied.
Just connect each weapon to its own (separately automated) spell, specific to the ammo it needs, to auto-reload.
The external ammunition-storage area also has a separate spell attached, to auto-report:
1)__a recording of the signal that triggered this response (useful for backtracking the source of this breach, as well as for unbiased Council peer-review)
2)__which ammo was used, at what time, & how much (same motive as #1)
3)__when the stores of that ammo are low-enough to require restocking
4)__when ammo-supplies are exhausted WITHOUT stopping the intruder (IE: “Guys? I need backup!”)
A separate set of these 4 reports (created for each TYPE of ammo) might initially sound redundant, but it would help to highlight individuals within a ‘group-intrusion’ scenario, as well as pinpoint solo individuals who can trip the sensors of multiple ammo-types.
Any usage of any ammo must also auto-download 2 Vault video-recordings, of the 10 minutes immediately BEFORE the alarm was tripped:
5)__INSIDE the “kill box”
6)__OUTSIDE the Vault doors
…as additional evidence/documentation in “Motive #1”
Of course, both recordings are FAR broader-spectrum than merely visual…
…both in the “Mundane”, & in the “Thaumaturgical” spectrums.
All of this (& the recording of the attack itself) are also downloaded to a “backup” archive-site, in case of data corruption.
Before all of this security-talk starts to sound too “over the top” to be taken seriously, just consider how dangerous the contents of this vault must be (in the wrong hands), in order to justify hiding them in this vault.
Anyone sufficiently “OCD / Paranoid” to add any other safeguarding suggestions here…?
That’s what the detectors are for: to determine which ammo would be the most effective (depending on the Supernatural, they may still use more than one type of ammo)
The design of the security system needs to tread a fine line, here:
1)__As powerful as possible — to prevent theft
2)__If it’s TOO powerful, it’ll perforate the chamber’s walls, destroying the Vault’s ability to CONTAIN the “McGuffins” that it’s trying to hold. Responding to a breach by “Committing Suicide” is NOT anyone’s definition of good vault-security!
The traps are supposed to be the second-to-last line of defense, for when someone has already opened the massive vault door and defeated the massiver vault guardian. They never planned for someone to be able to bypass the door and guardian by squishing through a crack. And of course, the last line of defense is everyone who would have been summoned when the alarms when off and had time to arrive while the intruders were fighting the guardian.
, all of those are still mostly conventional.
It may be that our Mr. Coot didn’t trigger all the magical ammo due to his own limited magicifacation. Although it’s probably wise to use a broad spectrum of attacks in an automated system, it’s probably aldo wise to include a certain amount of restraint so that an adaptive, repeated attack strategy doesn’t succeed on the second strike.
Well, when the guardian golem is equipped with a quasi-universal weakening spell (able to affect entities with widely different sources of power), I would have expected the designers to keep going with the “universal massive attack” pattern rather than the “broad spectrum of specific attacks” one. Yet again, breaking the pattern might be the point here.
Actually, when they rebuild the vault with more modern systems, they might consider using non elemental options. I think there aren’t that many supernatural beings immune to damage from “missile in the face”.
Dropping the ceiling with an humongous weight on top could even lock Maxima in armor mode, or more probably forcing her to escape with superspeed. The acceleration of gravity wouldn’t be enough to trap her.
I was imagining concentric chambers, with the Golem pacing between the 2 layers, to intercept a breach-attempt from any direction.
I was thinking in terms of “use a,b,c,d on the first intruder, b,d,e,f,g on the next”, etc, but with a bit of bot to tailor weapon choices to intruder’s nsture. not to restrain the system, but to keep intruding team startegy off balance. requires a whole lotta types of attacks.
Focused hypersonic vibration beam, rapid decay polka-dot room spreader (dots all over the room of various sizes. Inside the orbs, time moves vastly faster so stuff that CAN age, even a vampire, would be weakened. Vampire wouldn’t weaken from age itself but from age without feeding), calcification beam, flood the room with water of that lake that mummifies everything it touches, portal gun.
portal gun would be the best i think, if you make sure the first portal is the destination one. ‘go to hell’ literally.
I had a feeling they would find him in the vault at some point. I didn’t expect him do be decorating the walls of it.
It’s hard to feel bad for Coot when we all know he’ll be resurrected as the Big Bad in season 5…
You mean he will get to vote for Trump in a few years after all? ;P
I suspect that something will be done about that in comic.
Then DaveB is going to have to skip a lot of time at some point…The events along the story arc right now are “a few months” before May of 2005 at least.
I think it’s best to not have that high demands of realism when it comes to superhero stories. If some minor details, like for example who the president is, don’t make perfectly sense I think we can live with that.
I thought it was 2011, nearly two years before the Carolina Reaper.
That can’t be true. We’ve seen President Obama, therefore it’s at least 2008.
Different history due to the existence of super heroes and supernatural maybe? In that timeline he ran sooner.
Stephen Harper was simultaneously prime minister of Canada, so the comic is set prior to November 2015.
No, it was May 2011, not November 2005 (it was either 5/11 or 11/5, can’t remember which way the tag was numbered)
I would rather he didn’t. It really turns me off when a fun comic gets political. Like that’s not what I signed up for, you know?
I can see the appeal of both sides.
Though, what I don’t like in Doctor Who is when an evil person through history is shown to be an alien or robot or something. The reason why is it’s good to see the true horrors we can unleash just in ourselves- by saying ‘nope not a human’ we can turn a blind eye to our own evils, whereas I own a mirror.
It’s just that I already feel bombarded with political BS on a daily basis, and comics and video games serve as diversions or escapes from all that. I don’t want to have to escape from my escape.
I don’t remember that happening in old Who, and I just wasn’t able to get into new Who. I made it about halfway through Eccleston’s season before I called it quits. Nothing to do with Eccleston either – I just couldn’t handle Rose (or her mom, or Mickey for that matter). The episode where they went back to when her father died killed it for me.
Doctor: Rose, you can do all the things in creation, except touch that baby.
Rose: Olroight there, Doctoh!
-The Doctor turns away-
Rose: Doctoh, I tooched baybeh.
I’m told she supposedly got much better later on, but I simply couldn’t subject myself to her any longer.
Tenant was the better of the ‘new’ Doctors, don’t bother with “The New Adventures of Amy Pond-scum, with special guest Doctor Who” (and no, unless you are actually Moroccan, or Tommy Cooper, fez’ are not cool, neither are bowties unless wearing a tuxedo), Capaldi was good (apart from that Clara twat), just a shame this Christmas special will be the end
Capaldi has been great but his series has not been. Same could be said for the season or two before, though.
Rhaa Lovely had comics filled to the brim with onomatopoeias.
This is a page that would make Don Martin (you youngssters might have to google him) weep tears of joy.
That’s what is missing! Steamroller!
Don Martin! I knew something was missing. ‘Blorch’, ‘squadge’ and ‘fweee’ are good contenders too.
i really hope this is the last we ever see or hear of him he was disgusting and his very presence made reading any pages hes was in a chore
Observation: Coot has proven quite gullible and clueless, yet he was a monster hunter, and also despite taking various sure kill hits, and the tentacles erupting out of him, Coot was still conscious until the very end.
That’s not your ordinary level of ornery. He sure was super tenacious.
I am not counting him out of the game quite yet.
“There’s a ‘D’ in my bulge, if you know what I mean!”
~ Cooter ‘The Knee Buckler’ Jones
RIP in chunks.
Rest in Pieces!
Wasn’t there someone in Warcraft 3 that said that?
Don’t know about Warcraft, but The Undertaker use to say that when wrasslin’
“Sciona gave Cooter a potion to drink before sending him through the portal. Said it would let him see things no one else can see, do things no one else can do, and was chocked full wind, fire and lots of fiber. And by fiber she meant explosive tentacles. Technically fibrous, so, only a bit of a lie.”
Well, if we want to get technical about it…. it wasn’t a lie. “let him see things no one else can see”, like what the vault looked like right before he painted it in his own gore… “do things no one else can do”, like be the warhead for this little venture… ” chocked full wind, fire and lots of fiber. And by fiber she meant explosive tentacles. Technically fibrous, so, only a bit of a lie.”, and exlosions have lots of wind and fire, but you already got the fiber thing down. So yeah… not technically a lie.
She didn’t tell Coot that he was going to end up being a suicide bomber, though.
He never asked (and no, a lie by omission is not still a lie)
So if a politic didn’t tell you the whole truth about his last maneouver… for you that would be a good an honest
man (or woman)person?Sciona for President. Couldn’t do much worse than the current one.
Could say the same for any of the last ten
What the hael has that got to do with anything? Where is it written, anywhere, that you have to reveal everything you have ever done, without being asked?
You can not lie if you don’t say anything
Complete honesty and avoiding lying aren’t quite the same thing.
I can tell you two true statements and let you come to the incorrect conclusions. e.g. “I know I did not take your call yesterday. You do know that I don’t answer my phone while I am driving.” While both statements may be true, they may not have anything to do with each other. I will let you draw the conclusion that the reason I did answer your call is that I was driving at the time, as opposed to the actual reason that I was just trying to dodge talking with you at the time. You drew the conclusion just because the two independent statements were stated close to each other.
If you define the word “lie” as “an intentionally false statement” then no, a lie by omission is not a lie, however if you define the word “lie” as “an intentionally deceptive statement” then yes, a lie by omission is a lie.
No, you deliberately leave out something when someone asks you, then that is a lie, but if you don’t reveal something you have done if no one has asked, then it’s not a lie, you simply haven’t told everything, either a lie or the full truth
I’ll agree with Guesticus on this one. Mind you, omitting information isn’t a good thing. It’s still being dishonest. But not offering up relevant information is not lying. Similarly, you can tell the truth while lying by omission, because telling the truth is not the same as being Honest.
Basically, you can be Dishonest by either telling falshoods or by NOT telling relevant truths, and you can be Honest only by offering up all the relevant information truthfully.
I’m not sure I understand here… First you say that a lie by omission is not a lie, but then you say that a lie by omission is a lie… These two statements are not compatible…
I think he meant that
“Anything else I should know?”
“Nope”
is a lie but
“You will do x and y” without mentioning z isn’t a lie.
Realistically both are lies in the sense that you’re deceiving people but if you want to get technical or pedantic or nitpicky failing to mention something when nobody asks isn’t a “lie” even if you intentionally don’t mention it knowing they’d want to know.
tl;dr: it’s not a lie it’s a different kind of deception (but in common usage of words most people would call it lying).
Yes, thank you, that was it, have trouble explaining things properly in text
A lie is a deception, but an omission in itself is not a lie but another form of deception, unless you are lying by omission
Of coarse by that definition if you know a potion will to x, y, and z and somone asks “what will it do?” mentioning only x and y to conceal z without raising suspicion by refusing to answer is a lie of omission.
Again, that would be a deception, not a lie
technically, a lie by omission means it is a RETROACTIVE lie.
You’re technically correct (the best kind of correct).
(…in a Caribbean accent…)
“Tally me banana!”
Daylight come and he wan’ go home.
Might be deadly black tarantula!
When will the cast page be updated? as I’d love to see how you’ll do it now the cast has gotten this large
Want to help out? Maybe be a Patreon (or increase your Patreonage if you already are), because DaveB has to do this all by his own (and he can only hire Keith to do colouring occasionally)
Off-Topic Topic of the Day:
Will we ever see Tubey again? Will Sydney ever need to conceal her orbs in the future?
Probably, because Syd wasn’t flaunting the orbs at the beginning of the strip and Tubey was on full display too.
I expect so. There will be times she wants to have them organized and out of the way for a time. Surveillance comes to mind or just another night out on the town. There are times when not having a group of balls orbiting your head would be handy.
That’s what she said!
In the same way that some heroes hide their face with a mask, or a pair of glasses, removing the main outstanding feature of yourself can cause you not to be noticed.
Eg, even without the glasses, Clark Kent probably wouldn’t get noticed by the public when walking down the street in a suit as he isn’t in blue with a big S on the front.
So tucking her balls out of sight would stop people noticing who she is.
That last sentence sounds so wrong.
But so right at the same time :D
Actually, Clack Kent IS easily recognizable when he’s out in public; He IS, after all, TV Anchorman on the TV News broadcast.
O_o
Going all silver age pre-crisis in 1985 continuity there.
Post crisis Clark Kent was only ever a reporter for the Daily Planet newspaper. IIRC
He’s not an anchorman- he’s a newspaper reporter. His face is pictured in editorials occasionally, but it’s mostly his written word that’s distributed.
Butt, back then, newspaper reporters actually went out and interviewed people, usually ‘famous’ people, so they would be recognized in the street (specially when wearing the hat with their press-credentials in the hatband)
Sooo… is he now Old Man Venom?
Nope, the new wall paper
…And floor covering…And ceiling paint…
Well, that is Coot all over.
I’m pretty sure people came back from an explosion in the comics. Just cook up a new body, put the victim’s soul in it and voilá!
That guy was really unsympathetic, but he claims that his family was killed by monsters and only the veil enabled Sciona’s team to talk him into this. If his claims are true I really hope that the Council gets its fair change of collateral damage when Sciona goes down. Perhaps the veil should really be deactivated.
It was explained rather thoroughly why just suddenly deactivating the Vale is a bad idea.
Running it also is. It has been exploited before. I am with Sydney on this issue. Humans should know what’s going on.
Can be, but from we’ve seen it ofent isn’t.
It’s plainly said that saying they “police their own” would be an understatement.
Not to mention that suddenly revealing thousands of new native and intergalactic creatures right after Supers will cause more than a little civil unrest.
Yeah, lets start World War 3.
He blew up good.
He blew up REAL good.
He went out with a bang.
Nah, less of a “bang”, more of a “splortch”.
https://www.heavensabovefireworks.com/
“Oh, sad to hear about your loss. So where did you bury her?”
“Bury? Oh no, we just had her cremated and breathed in her ashes!”
I must say that if that took out all their defenses, they really need to have a long talk with the person who designs their security systems. A hazardous material vault like this should have defenses for the weapons pointing in as well as those pointing out. I would have expected magic circles at a minimum around the weapon emplacements.
Not to mention redundancy. Who the hell makes a single kill room and expects to be done?
Well, and the golem.
What? No acid attacks? You’d think they would add a hydrochloric acid wash to clean the remains.
Since it’s also suboceanic, maybe there should be sharks too.
with frickin laser beams attached to their heads!
“Designs.” Heh. This room is what happens when a bunch of immortal, rich entities who are — and this is important — not engineers have several centuries to slap together a security system, and I use the term ‘slap together’ virtually literally. And almost certainly this is the first time that the place has ever been tested to destruction.
Yea, this was very poorly designed.
“How do we keep out people that somehow make it past the giant golem?
I know, a kill room. Let’s make a list of everyone’s weaknesses, and just put all of those in weapon form for the kill floor.”
I would have expected a mantrap at the very least. Those are pretty standard everywhere in high security areas.
fill the room with nitrogen also. It’s a friendly gas, chemically, and does nothing for air breathing entities – which probably includes most super threats. Also, magically very high and varying gravity, if not just to screw up the aim of all projectile weapons and the reflexes of most supers.
A lot of benefit can come from defenses that are breachable but significantly interfereing. a wooden fence stopped a major military attack in the US civil war – Pickett’s charge, I think? Most of the charging infantry that died were killed trying to get past a simple wooden fence because it slowed them just enough that the other side could get better aim.
See, it’s stuff like this that makes me feel sympathetic to Coot.
His last words ‘Fuggin monsters’ seem to tipify his life and why I have trouble seeing him as a bad guy.
He wasn’t a ‘bad guy’, he just wasn’t a very ‘pleasant’ guy
He had no respect for women and, from his “Ackbar” comments, suspect he has a problem with foreigners. Or locals with different religious views. Or…
Who’s to say he thinks he saw Veil-free monsters and means some outsiders killed his family and calling everyone who isn’t a white American a “monster”
Like said: “not a pleasant guy”
Just because someone ‘has a problem with foreigners’ does not alone make them a ‘bad guy’
Pretty sure not liking foreigners doesn’t make you a badguy.
Pretty sure making lewd comments about sex doesn’t make you a badguy.
Pretty sure wanting to kill monsters when all you know about monsters does not make you a badguy.
Otherwise, you should consider Dean from Supernatural to be a badguy also. He literally meets all three of the same criteria as Coot. :)
“Pretty sure not liking foreigners doesn’t make you a badguy.”
To elaborate, when I say ‘not liking foreigners’ I mean ‘having a problem with foreigners does not mean you’re a villain. Depends on your experiences, and it’s not like he goes around killing foreigners.’
Now if he went around also killing foreigners, not just monsters, then he’d be a definite villain. Right now he was just socially crude with a possibly/probably bigoted opinion (although I’m not sure how much I can read into ‘ackbar types’ – could mean he hates them, could just mean he’s uncomfortable around them).
Depends on your level of “not liking foreigners” or any other group you don’t like.
Having that opinion and keeping it to yourself does not make you bad guy.
It is when you discriminate in the way that effects people, then it makes you a bad guy.
If you are hiring an employee and make your decision based on gender, skin colour, etc, it makes you a bad guy. Even if no one could prove or even know about it, you still discriminated.
If you are driving a bus and see a passenger running for the bus and choose whether or not to stop based on looks, then you just discriminated and it makes you a bad guy.
If you make racist or sexist jokes in the workplace, even if those who are the butt of those jokes cannot hear them, you have just make being racist/sexist that little more acceptable in your workplace. And it still makes you a bad guy.
You do not have to be a murderer to be a bad guy. You don’t even need to be spotted being bad to be a bad guy.
There are levels of being a bad guy and not all of them mean you deserve to die.
“Who’s to say he thinks he saw Veil-free monsters and means some outsiders killed his family and calling everyone who isn’t a white American a “monster””
Because the doctor specifically described the reason he kills monsters as being that monsters killed his family.
That still doesn’t expand on his definition of monsters.
Eg, if his family had been on the top of one of the twin towers during 9/11, taking in the view like a tourist, then he would be referring to terrorists as monsters, as many people in our world have done.
We use the term ‘monster’ for anyone committing unspeakable acts against humanity, and as far as I know we don’t have any real vampires and werewolves.
He went out in rather badass way at least.
Will the others mention that Coot should’ve been aware of the cost of joining up with them?
What others? The one’s who recruited and sent him there specifically to die?
Holy shit. That was a death room that’d make even The Master and Daleks tip their hat.
Though daleks don’t wear hats, have respect for others (except the Doctor)… actually I guess the same of the Master/Missy. But neither would be affected.
“Thus ends the saga of Coot, cause you know, in the history of comics, no one has ever come back from definitely being dead like this. I mean, he blew up. He wasn’t caught in an explosion, he was the warhead.”
Well, i can think of just one off the top pf my head. *looks at the guy in the corner with a big blue dingus*
This smells like a origin to me.
I’m sorry, could you make this any more vague?
I almost got a whiff of an idea of what you are referencing.
I read ‘big blue dingus’ and only thought of The Tick.
Sorry I meant to say ‘Patrick Warburton’.
No edit…
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sheesh, Dr. Manhattan, would it have been any better to say the big blue cgi’ed dingus? Or maybe schlong?
They blew $17 million on Dr. Manhattan, including light scatter algorithms and miniaturizing millions of tiny atomic reactions just under his translucent blue skin… and, yes, there were people whose job it was to ensure Dr. Manhattan’s dingus had proper dangle physics.
When one of your stars is a Giant Blue Superhero who is both figuratively and literally the world’s biggest swinging dingus, you’d better make sure that it swings correctly. Especially when all 40 feet of it will be wagging in the breeze up on IMAX screens.
Couldn’t have happened to a better man.
Well, so much for everyone saying “maybe the security has a ‘mundane human’-shaped hole in it and he’ll survive”.
Told you the answer to that would be “No, if you can’t tell the weak point, you should just go for overkill”. And there is no overkill.
In this case enough kill without have given no chance for the retaliation spell that killed all the turrets.
So, clearly “not enough kill”.
I don’t think it was a spell, per se. It was more of a ‘the turrets should have had backups in case they were attacked by countermagic so those counters could be countered’.
The target was killed, but they didn’t expect a parasite to learn the attacks and trajectories of whatever killed the host and counter.
Also said ‘if the targeting system can’t correctly identify the supernatural species of the intruder, to fire everything at it’ (or along those words), even supplied a video link :D
Coot, we hardly knew ye. I think we all prefer it that way.
In other words this vault was a pain in your ass to design and think of how to have it play out. :P
all these comments, and not a single one on the best sound effect of all? Come on now, “Flamethrow” is just perfect!
I love DaveB’s sound effects…In panel #2, Cooter even got a crick in his redneck.
;)
No, that’s a “Crack” not a “Crick”
So she used the Hilbilly as target. And put int something that would retaliate anything attacking. Wich should be rather certain to get all the instantly active defenses.
Good to see racism goes both ways…
He asplode
De ass went blooey.
Everything went blooey.
‘Bluey’? Thought it went ‘redey’…
and now everything is ready
They should a sent a sheep, they have a grand tradition of detonating.
It’s a good thing that Sciona booby-trapped Cooter himself to retaliate against the defenses. He didn’t even have enough time to use a Holy Hand Grenade; it’s the ‘counting to three’ that would’ve been the problem.
It wouldn’t suprise me if the Rabbit of Caerbannog is part of this collection.
I got that reference. (Longest sustained laugh on the Tonight Show when Jonny Carson was still on.)
They sent an old goat instead, works the same :P
The ones that provide steel wool are exceptions.
Problem? Use hammer. Big problem? High explosives.
As the size of an explosion increases, the number of problems it is incapable of solving approaches 0.
Alternatively,
When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail, but when all you have is Mjolnir everything IS a nail.
Including costars and the production crew.
Back in the original Star Trek series ‘The Naked Time’ episode they gave George Takei a sword and he really got into the part. In between takes he was chasing the cast and crew members around the set with it. Later, the director basically said ‘if anyone ever gives that man a sword again, they are fired.’
and so someone came up with Chekov’s gun
*proudly displays Checkov’s phaser*
The reason for me having this will become apparent later.
Didn’t work so well vs Hulk the first few dozen times…