Grrl Power #561 – Harangarang
As soon as the door opened, everyone standing beside Sydney and Ingsol should have been all “Ew, what happened?” but you know how comic time and dialog work. Spider-man can belt out a few paragraphs mid-punch. I guess that’s another of Sydney’s official unofficial abilities.
Maxima cut Sydney off when she launched in to her “exposition rampage” when Crimson showed up at the base, so she’s getting a few sideline conversations in where she can now.
Ingsol shouldn’t be upset that Sydney seems to be picking on him. Well, he’s a nigh ancient vampire and has pretty thick skin, but more than that, Sydney just likes haranguing her friends. So it’s sort of a compliment when Sydney gives you the business. It should be said that she’s not nearly as good as being on the receiving end of a razzing. It’s a bit of an insecurity based character flaw. Something that may not be helped by hanging out with all the beautiful people at the base, despite quickly becoming a powerful and indispensable member of the team.
Fun fact, Krona’s last name is Murgatroyd. Ingsol isn’t referencing her here, or calling for her. It’s just expression he likes.
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Enough kill?
Depends on the regen powers of whatever is splattered against walls. It could still be underkill.
If it can pull itself back together within a week it wasn’t enough kill if it has regeneration powers.
This is assuming that whatever it is has regeneration powers of decent quality as opposed to excellent quality. Deadpool and Wolverine rank in the top tier. An undying (such as Immortal from the Invincible series) would survive this but have little ability to communicate what happened and that would be considered enough kill.
Then there’s The Black Knight status where even overkill isn’t enough kill. We need to see what happened inside the slaughterhouse on fire. Irony… The goddess of excessive spicy food has a delicate stomach for gore.
I must admit, as a fellow connoisseur of the spice which must flow (for example, I have a $1 per drop vial of California Reaper extract concentrate sitting on my spice rack), I, as well, don’t have a massive stomach for gore. When entering college, I thought about pursuing medical and becoming a doctor, but quickly learned I don’t have the stomach for blood and guts.
You mean Carolina Reapers? You can get a bottle of Carolina Reaper chili flakes at Trader Joes in the US… Makes for good taco meat. Of course, I have to make two batches if I want to keep my friends.
Yes, my mistake. Carolina reaper. I blame my mistake on the fact California reaper sounds cooler.
[I hear Carolina reaper, and I imagine the grim reaper sitting down with a southern belle named “Carolina” and informing her of her impeding death. I hear California reaper and I imagine some movie star, giving some dramatic monologue upon his swirling appearance.]
California Reaper: Living Fast and Leaving Beautiful Corpses.
California reefer sounds even better. And also makes for a fine chili. Or brownie. Anything with enough fat content, really.
I’m speaking from very, very past experience. My security clearances have made me a square in my dotage. But if it was both federally legal (and that’s the rub, even in places where states have legalized it if you want to keep your federal clearances you will comply with federal prescriptions) and not forbidden just as is excessive alcohol use, I’d be a current pot user. And happily.
Is there a heat rating on your Reaper extract? The Jalapeño extract I have seems to hit as hard as some ofthe milder Reaper sauces if used in the same quantity.
And I’ve gotten used to gore in movies lately but am probably still quite squeemish IRL as well.
You forgot Doomsday :)
And Lobo :) :)
and Ghost Rider. little known fact: he was one of the heroes called on to try and take down Hulk, because he can regen from basically being pounded to dust.
Ghost Rider technically just doesn’t DIE. Side effect of being a spirit. This would firmly put him inside the Undying set of supers. An exorcism would free him from his mortal link though he would still not be dead.
Lobo doesn’t have access to heaven because he’s too evil or hell because they’re afraid he’ll take over. Thus he is trapped inside his form until the end of universe.
Doomsday can die but it takes an exceptional amount of kill to make it permanent. This then brings in the law of DC. One falls only to have another similar take it’s place. Doesn’t make them better just makes them again.
Doomsday dies and specifically comes back to life with an adaptation to whatever killed it.
That whole Doomsday being the DC’s Goku is simply further evidence their writers (or Editors) not knowing what the fuck they are doing (just look at Soups himself: they keep changing his power levels everytime they change writer, and let’s not get into his ‘cousins’, remember when Power Girls’ vulnerability was to natural elements which means she could be killed by a tree branch!)
He was considered because he was the Angel of Vengeance, emphasis on ‘Angel’, and thus one of the few entities who can take down Hulk, the problem was, the collateral damage could be more destructive than simply leaving Hulk alone
There is no such thing as overkill when fighting lobo he can come back from total atomization.
Sounds like a prime candidate for permanent imprisonment, rather than killing. Temporal stasis should do the trick, provided the power source does not get disrupted. If that happens Lobo is likely to get out and be mad.
Sp just make sure he is kept in a very secure facility that is unlikely to be disturbed…
… ooh, look the walls are decorated in Lobo!
No kidding, he blew up his home planet, and in a comic lobo and super man fought. Super man eventually got tired.
If you leave scorch marks or blood smears there was no overkill. My personal metric for overkill is “We had to scan 2 parsecs* down to an subatomic level across all 10 known dimensions to determine what we killed”. Then and only then has overkill been achieved. *current scanners can only reach that far currently but we’ve got top women working on extending that range.
Overkill is related to to dakka. There is no upper limit.
There is no overkill. Only “open fire” and “I need to reload”.
Considering this was a stealth operation, we can asume it was “the smalest amount of kill they could carry without triggerng more alarms.
While normally I’d agree, we’ve already established that Sciona waited for a time when the alarm couldn’t be broadcast to anyone who needed to hear it. As a result of its remote location, the alarm & any other noises were effectively muffled.
Crime scene. Call CSI.
I don’t think this counts as “a body” anymore
Okay, so you have LOTS of trace evidence.
Whoever that was certainly gets around a lot…
No need to dust for fingerprints or anything else like that. The only tools needed to gather evidence are ink blotters & mops…Lots & lots of both.
quote prime “we will have lots of time to squeegee you off the walls”
Off Topic Topic of the Day:
Why isn’t Sydney wearing her new fancy magical hairband?
Lost it with the ‘reboot’, apparently.
uhm what magic hairband?
The one that keeps heir hair in check
The one she got in #450, and hasn’t worn since #533, and I didn’t notice until #561
I appear to have missed that page entirely, which is weird seeing as i have a system set to notify me when new pages are posted.
The simplest way to think of this is that Halo took it off (before #529) and just hasn’t put it back on again. It’s currently collecting dust on a table in her room because she forgot that it is less of a problem than a standard hair band.
Or it could be an indication of some sort of super-secret conspiracy of hair-band thieves, but that’s a bit less likely…
1. Steal hair bands
2. ?
3. Profit!
This reminds me of the man.
Your man keeps nicking your hair bands? Were they good Hair Bands?
Dabbler is studying it to make sure it’s safe.
It was a gift from a succubus who wants to get into Sydney’s pants. She is taking the traditional path of flattery, kindness, and gift giving to make Sydney more open to her advances. Of course Dabbler is terribly jealous, but then Dabbler is under orders not to sexually fraternize with her team mates.
Sshhh… (don’t remind him of the nasty things existence!)
She just didn’t feel like wearing it today.
I would be more inclined to assume that Dabbler has had it locked away in her “lab” for excessive study. Incidentally this is a highly secure area and unknown magical devices such as that might trigger traps so leaving it behind would be a fairly good idea. I would assume Mr. Bubble can protect against nearly everything else.
Have you forgotten who gave Sydney that hairband? A clue: she is in panel eight
gonna be a bitch to get the janitors in ther
What if that IS the janitors…?
Backup janitors
That’s what this would be. Our heroes took care of the main one and kicked him off a cliff.
There’s no phrase more scary than “Call the backup janitors”.
Fire Mages?
Everything would have changed, had they been the ones to attack.
Yeah, but that leads to outbreaks of Protagonists Complaint. Symptoms include: depression, whining, sarcasm, moralizing, a tendency towards long speeches, and being the Avatar.
and then a republic forming, and your successor having to fight off hyper-comptetent muggles, the Dark Avatar, terrorists, and a totalitarian regime with a giant robot to defend it.
“When Janitors Go Bad! Tonight! On Heraldo!”
That’s ‘Geraldo.’ He is an asshole, but still deserves to not have his name butchered.
As opposed to the janitors?
*laughs secretly*
What? I pronounced it correctly.
I think your accent fooled Oberon.
That goes beyond slander…It’s a serious smearing of their reputation.
Thought it was their organs that were smeared (all around the chamber, including the ceiling and that corner that everyone misses until the inspector shows up and spots it)
Maybe that is Sciona and her minions? Sometimes, under their mild manners, janitors can be seriously badass.
Never, ever mess with the old guy holding a broom.
I think vampires like the gore only when it is fresh. werewolfs/bears/bores/badges on the other hand? maybe they like it.
“Badges? We don’t need no steenkin’ badges!”
Cue station identification: Channel 62
Roll opening for Raul Hernandez’s pet corner
that was Badgers. the Badges bit is from Blazing Saddles. who ripped it off from elsewhere themselves too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqomZQMZQCQ
The original was not exactly that.
What about these?
If we’re gonna break out the awesome then we might as well go full tilt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q
Awesome, I had not seen that before. It makes me wonder:
1) How versatile it is (I note that some of the percussion would need to have nuts and bolts replaced to vary the tune – a bit more complicated than changing the sheet of paper an a self-playing piano).
2) How hard it is to learn to play (it looked physically exhausting, for a start).
3) Maintenance… eek‽‽‽
1: Well anything you can adjust to play via marble is possible if not time consuming to put in place….
2: Turn crank until tired?
3: Probably as much as any standard instrument. Strings would need to be tuned.
1. True.
2. Naa, he was pushing other bits and sliding things. Playing that requires a lot more skill than just supplying power to it.
3. I think a lot more. Moving wooden parts will suffer a lot of wear and tear.
1) It looks like the pegs on the big wheels are movable, so I suspect it’s relatively straightforward (if tedious) to program it for whatever tune and rhythm you want. No nuts or bolts required.
Changing instruments would be more difficult, obviously, but I think he’s doing some signal processing on the drums already, so he might be able to change them without altering anything mechanically.
Say whatever you want about badgers…They don’t care.
Clover don’t give a F.
Which makes for lonely nights (and lots of batteries)
I wonder if a room smeared with human-food looks appetizing to a human.
Note the subtle and clever use of the Air Ball to avoid stinkytimes.
It might smell like peppermint and lavender to Sydney right now, but it still looks like several people’s worth of burnt chunky salsa in there.
+1 Internets for using the phrase “burnt chunky salsa”.
aaaaaaaaand Sydney is about to blow serious chunkage INSIDE her bubble… Ever watch someone chunder in a group of people? The domino effect is amazing. I was on a C-141 coming back from Alaska once. The pilot set up an oscillation where the wings rocked up and down. After an hour, one guy popped… puking in his helmet. In a sick chain reaction, seven more people vomited one right after the other… a lot of others looked ready to. Oddly enough, the oscillation stopped after that…
You lead a very special life to have stories like this to tell us. :)
She doesn’t have Mr Bubble up
Yeah, that’ll do it. I have nigh zero motion sickness. I’ve never once been motion sick in my life. I’ve been sailing with people who owned the sailboat boat and in rough waters they got sick while I didn’t. But people puking next to me? I might keep it in, and I might not. It’s a survival trait, I think. The subconscious mind goes: “That guy is puking. He must have eaten something poisonous. If you puke now you might live, so puke now!”
Somebody in medical research should come up with a cure for that disease…It’s almost as contagious as yawning, but a heck of a lot messier.
That was one of my favourite colledge tricks. Greet people with “Yawnin’!” in the afternoon, offhandedly dismiss any accusations that they got the time of day wrong, then wait for the mexican wave to hit.
Subliminal messaging at its finest!
*That you got the time of day wrong.
Noted.
“This room is covered entirely in fondant! *salivates*”
“No, be wary, it’s probably a Wonka trap.”
The second someone does something wrong the song begins and… oh wait… what if this is the song and dance cleanup crew?
‘Fond’. ‘Fondant’ is horribly plasticky stuff they use to decorate cakes.
*sigh* I miss the days cake decorators actually used frosting…
If you see so much as one piece of gingerbread in there, as well, then my suspicion would lie with a witch, of Hansel and Gretel fame. Apparently one who can survive immolation in an oven!
So is that blood all around the entrance or sooth, or a combination of both? Knowing Sciona’s preferences though it probably is blood.
And now I wonder if they send Scooter in here first to test for traps and this is what is left of him…
If in doubt, send Achiles to scout
i like it, just one problem achilles is at base.
I meant in general, this is need to know only
no the phrase is when expecting mammory traps send a mammo……… dang I messed it up too, well ends send one in first.
https://grrl-power.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Make_Maxima_Say
How does her bubble shield interact with floors? Can she walk while shielded?
yes, she got pulled during the vehemence fight.
Vampires like their meals warm, fresh, and in sealed containers. I doubt “gorey aftermath” is any more appetising than mashed potatoes smeared on the countertop.
Marketing to Goths: Sell V8 in clear Capri-Sun style juice pouches.
V8? Why not Mott’s Clamato? It’s spicy and has more body to it.
Why not both? Also, why only those? Choice is a cornerstone of capitalism.
Butters would disagree with you.
The Best Bloody Mary Recipe In the World:
8 oz lime juice
8 oz clam juice
12 oz tomato juice
Pinch salt
Pinch pepper
Squeeze sriracha (~1/4-1/2 oz, more to taste)
Dash Worcestershire
Mix well. Do not shake with ice, do not pour over ice. Garnish with your vegetable of choice, I prefer the inner stalks from celery with the most leafage on them. They are bitter and tasty. And you can always use the outer stalks for stews or filling with peanut butter or cut them in quarters for packed lunches.
The lime juice cuts the thickness of the tomato juice and adds more acid. The clam juice cuts the thickness of the tomato juice and adds character.
Personally, I like mine with the celery mashed in to infuse and more Ultra Death than is sensible.
why not little voodoo dolls?
fuck it
You will go far in this business
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fpn_BAc1T44
why the long pause, tho?
Dude, don’t be so personal. Some folks have long snouts, some short. Folks can be sensitive about the length of their paws!
‘Heavens to Murgatroyd!’ was the catchphrase of Hanna Barbera’s Snagglepuss.
Exit, stage left.
Multiple catchphrases, even!
Snagglepuss was made of catchphrases even!
Makes sense. You’re a denizen of the night, for hundreds of years everyone’s asleep when you’re up, you get to feed easier but the social life is pretty boring except for the occasional saloon. Life is pretty much just constantly wandering in darkness. Then the electric lightbulb comes on the scene and the night life becomes exciting (at least until 2pm), and then -television- happens. You finally get to take part, at least vicariously, in the broad scope of human interactivity. Those early cartoons are going to be the first regular real taste of lighthearted human-ness in hundreds of years. They all probably became instant classics (and now are legitimate classics) among the vampire community.
They probably had a similar situation when internet came about and they could regularly converse with ordinary people. Heck, they probably enjoy WOW raids as much as the next nerd pulling an all-nighter.
Although now I’m envisioning Ignsol doing his best CATS impression.
PwnZor: How did you get levels so fast?! Do you ever sleep?
Ingo: Naah, got vampire powers.
PwnZor: Ugh, twilight fans, just don’t complain to me when you get caffeine crash.
That’s all i could hear when i saw it https://youtu.be/7Fwpj27hlP4
“Murgatroyd” was also the name of doctor Calhoun’s tormal.
(And “Doctor to the Stars” by Murray Leinster (in German translation) was the book that made me an SF fan.)
That’s the cartoon character that popped into my head! Thanks for clarifying. Heh.
I’m old enough to remember watching him on Saturday Morning Cartoons. Mighty Mouse, Pink Panther, some of the older Bugs Bunny/Road Runner/Daffy Duck, etc., original Jonny Quest…Heck, even Spider-Man (1960’s).
Dang, now I feel about as old as Ingsol, even though being undead, he doesn’t feel his age like I do…
But at least you can feel your pulse.
No love for Danger Mouse?
“Shush, Penfold.” :-)
He’s the greatest
He’s fantastic
Wherever there’s danger he’ll be there
He’s the ace
He’s amazing
He’s the strongest he’s the quickest he’s the best!
Yeah, he got enough praise from his own opening.
The dude was so small that he lived in a post box. He only had one eye. Yet he still managed to save the world on a regular basis.
That is pretty praiseworthy!
Definitely an excess of kill
Nope, there’s burnt remains, therefore: Maxim 34 – “If you’re leaving scorch marks, you need a bigger gun.”
if you vaporize your opposition you got the kill just right. Any more is overkill anything less is underkill.
Maxim 37 – There is no ‘overkill.’ There is only ‘open fire’ and ‘I need to reload.
Naw overkill wouldve vaporised the mess,Half of the artefacts and possibly one of Maximas limbs if she was within 20 miles of the facility when this happened ^^
Learning what constitutes “safe distance” can be an expensive pursuit of knowledge…
I expected that link to be comic 161.
That vault looks like Pickle Rick was in there…
No. This is a superhero webcomic.
Its obviously Vindicator Rick
I demand a Viscera game map based on what we’re about to see!
For the kids at home if they didn’t get the reference that I’m assuming that is…
I have a free Version of that for Shadow warrior XD
That simulator was made by the SCP Foundation, as to track down & “recruit” more D-Class personnel to deal with Post-Containment Breach Protocols.
I want you to be wrong, but the evidence is staggering.
Oh, but the evidence is everywhere, I assure you.
If anyone can discern multiple species from that mess, I would guess that it’s from the “donors” Sciona had on tap. Also,are they operating under the presumption that she is working alone? On the last panel, nice fourth wall breakage / possible segue to the next page.
Looks like the blood ritual the bad guys were performing was inside the vault itself?
If in doubt, use more blood -Blood magic 101
A room splattered with gore does not look any more appetizing than pudding smeared across the floor and walls and ceiling.
*Rotting* pudding, at that. Or possibly pudding that has already made its way through a digestive system. Also: the stuff’s all room temperature at this point.
Add to that cooked, slightly overdone, scorched, burned and extra crispy.
Oh no…
“Gary?”
“Gary!”
“GARY!”
Always found that vault somewhat creepy (but not so much as my friend Gary :-) ).
… Gary?
Gaaaaarryyyyyy……
Gary!
Ingsol; “I hope they remembered to shut off the duplicator ray this time.”
Maxima: “You are about to do or say something that will make me angry again, aren’t you?”
Zzzzap!
“Sydney! Sydney… Ahaha, Sydney!”
Maxima: “So it’s going to be one of those days again. Fine.”
So you are finding the vault less creepy than Gary? (Not particularily nice to say about a friend… no matter how true it may be. :P )
Virtual Pleasantville was creepier :)
“Meow.” -ala SpongeBob
“OMG! They killed Kenny!”
“You bastards!”
~Pretty much every episode of Southpark ever.
How would Ingsol say the following line:
Ingsol:Oh my god!!! They killed Kenny!!!!
Seeing how there are no w’ or v’s, just like anyone else
As for blood and guts all over the walls and how master/ancient vamp would feel?
How’d you feel if you went to a buffet and it was all over the floor and walls?
Vat a vaste.
Don’t think there’s a five second/minute rule either.
How long until a certain succubus checks magic and for hidden enemies by getting herself and her friend on council to pump their lust auras up?
And what if there’s something magical in that smoke? Burning blood has long been a vehicle for spells/magics and offerings to the gods.
Vell, Kronachrome is sweet…
Okay…………..
WHICH one of you numbskulls left Yoshitora Tokugawa ALONE with the sake AGAIN????
YOU GUYS KNOW what happens WHEN HE DRINKS TOO MUCH!
Immortal doesn’t mean invulnerable, as Sydney just stated. As immortal, one doesn’t age but may still die from a car accident or a bullet hit. As invulnerable, one is impervious to physical damage and/or disease, but age normally and will die of old age as anybody else. Of course, the combination of both is much preferable but hey, you can’t always have luck or the chance to min-max one’s character :P
There is an immortal+invulnerable as a curse trope that has been around for a while. One Twilight Zone episode had a criminal wish to be both, thinking he could get away with anything. He is caught after committing a crime because he had no other special abilities. His punishment (of course) was being sentenced to life imprisonment.
That is REALLY mean :P
A life sentence is nothing. Prisons can be escaped from, and even if he doesn’t escape, people will notice that he doesn’t age within a few centuries and start reacting to that.
His real problems start in a few billion years, when the sun expands into a red giant. Unless humanity figures out how to move to another star, he’ll be left floating alone in the outer surface of the sun.
And even if he escapes that, he’ll eventually have to deal with the heat death of the universe. After enough time, such as Graham’s Number of years, the “universe” will just be something that existed for a brief moment in the first tiny eyeblink of his life. After that brief instant, he’ll have spent his entire life floating alone in space.
I’m a little curious, though- being Invulnerable and Immortal, basically being immune to the effects of Entropy, means there’s some sort of shenaneganry going on with that man’s personal physics- And wouldn’t that suggest that anything he does is actually decreasing entropy/adding energy to the universe? Would his presence be enough to prevent the heat-death?
Possibly in a nearby vicinity. He may actually become the equivalent of a small sun for a tiny colony surviving the heat death and big rip of the universe.
something to remember though, he asked for Immortality and invulnerability, NOT eternal youth.
have fun being senile for several billion years!
The fun with being senile is that you don’t remember how long it lasts :-)
The real fun with senility: it’s not you who has to deal with it
There’s also an old legend of a god who took a mortal lover & gave her the gift of immortality…But he also forgot to make her unaging, so she grew very old indeed, with all of the aches, pains & other physical debilitation that come with aging…But still wouldn’t die.
I bet you she has invested heavily in restorative medicines research and development.
Actually, Immortality and invulnerability have nothing to do with one another.
And Ingsol is surely just ageless.
True immortality is unlimited. Think Wolverine on speed.
Or better yet, the Immortals in Highlander… (wait, does anyone these days even know that movie? Dang, i´m old…)
For anyone who does know, take McLeod & “Friends” and take away the decapitation-weakness.
Not even a Supernova could kill a true immortal permanently.
And Yes:
That is a curse.
Wait… DEADPOOL!!! Of course! Why didn´t i think of that earlier.
Or, if you like it more Metal, Lobo. After he was banished from Heaven and Hell, naturally.
Invulnerability, however, has nothing to do with regeneration. You are not invulnerable when you are Wolverine, you are invulnerable when you are Superman without the Sun-dependency or the Kryptonite-weakness.
It’s always weird when you don’t know if people are old enough to get references that you make. Probably a problem for Ingsol; making a lot of funny references that probably goes right over everybody else’s heads (like in this comic).
However, for everyone where they think the line of “too old” for a reference would be might be different. For example, Jane A may wonder if she should make that Gone with the Wind reference while John B is wondering if he should make that Atomic Blonde reference.
and then there are those of us going “hey, wasn’t this already done in the Satrycon? No not the recent translations, the original.” Not that I’m old, but I lost three whole ships full of goods at Herculenium.
Also, you have people like me who are literally younger than the reference you are making, but still get it because it is a staple in our subculture. I didn’t get the snagglepuss reference because I never especially cared for snagglepuss the way I did for some of the hanna barbara cartoons, but I know I’ve definitely SEEN some of them, and I’m only 21. However, I did get your highlander reference because I went through a phase in high school where I watched as many of the nerd staples from the 90s as I could both find the time to, and that caught my attention (the ones that come to mind are buffy and highlander, but one that I never got around to, for instance, was xena). I also make references to obscure things all the time with no regard for whether or not my audience will get them, if they do, awesome, if they don’t, either it doesn’t matter, or I explain the reference. Also, since you title dropped your reference, if anyone doesn’t get it, they can just google highlander, with a possible mention of immortality and easily find a quick breakdown for that universe’s rules for imortality, or heck even just infer said rules from your post.
TL;DR: Age isn’t the only factor in getting references, and all in all I wouldn’t worry about if people get it or not, because if it really matters to them they have a variety of means to find out.
If you go back far enough you eventually reach a limit on the tools you can use for wit and humor.
Adam: “I’ve come up with a great idea for a joke. I say ‘knock knock!’ and you say ‘who’s there?’ ”
Eve: “Why do I say ‘who’s there?'”
Adam: “To find out who it is.”
Eve: “I already know who it is. You are the only other person on the planet.”
hey now, you forgot the serpent could talk
The serpent’s the hero of the story. He got the protagonists out of being stuck as mere living pets for eternity.
Can Vampires get tired?
They’re undead so they should effectively have limitless stamina
They do seem to need blood in order not to starve to death, so I imagine their stamina has its limits.
Stamina is not the issue a vampire would have. Physical exhaustion does catch up even to the undead while their upper limits are easily double or triple living.
Well they do need blood to sustain them, so it can only keep them going for so long. Unless they replenish they will either need to go into torpor (not canon in this setting) or go on a feeding frenzy (canon).
Greater undead do not have limitless stamina, as cognition takes huge amounts of energy (simply using the brain for more than its most basic functions such as telling the heart to beat and the lungs to breathe utilizes a significantly larger portion of the body’s overall energy at any given time than basically any other single system in the body), so for an intelligent undead to cope it either needs a limitless supply of energy (which is impossible within the laws of thermodynamics) or a means of recouping spent energy through both feeding and rest (the body needs time to process its source of energy, whatever it may be, even a because magic source of energy like a vampire being sustained only via blood). Granted there are exceptions, such as liches, but even those can be explained to require an energy source, they just found a work around to automate the system, as the phylactery can draw in ambient magical energy from wherever it is, act as though constantly at rest to process, and then transmit to the lich remotely, alternatively it could be argued that a lich could be sustained by knowledge (as that is nearly always the basic motivation for a lich), and that the phylactery is simply acting as the processing/storage unit (like an external battery pack that is also an external hard-drive that gets recharged from the computer when plugged in, and backs up the data, but if the computer is ever disconnected it can be brought back with the external device). Unintelligent (lesser) undead are more likely to have nigh limitless stamina, as they do not need power cognition, and they are generally controlled by either their creator, or some other necromancer/greater undead who has taken control of them, so it can be assumed that they are sustained in some way by the magic that is used to control them (unless we are talking non-magically produced undead, like virus zombies or something, but when those are a thing they tend to exist in a vacuum from other undead, and both require consumption of flesh/brains as well as usually having some sort of limited mobility and little to no means of reproducing cells, thus they continue to rot and do not heal wounds, thus clearly requiring some sort of energy replenishment, and could not continue indefinitely, as eventually they would rot to the point of immobility and would be, for all intents and purposes, just dead, as opposed to undead).
You also have to be careful with those magically animated brooms. If you try to stop them through physical damage the enchantment treats each of the pieces as a separate entity.
Ah, but your reasoning is based on science and undead are (usually) inherently magical beings and as such their biology (necrology?) tell the laws science to go cry in a corner
Laws of thermodynamics are only valid in isolated system. Magic allows to draw energy from other universes. While undead likely really need to feed, devils may draw energy from hell, which is different dimension with different rules.
Although you can make the system bigger, when modeling your thermodynamic behaviours. Open up a gate to a very hot other plane and the two interacting systems can be treated as one larger whole one.
1) The number of universes is at least infinite.
2) You may not be able to find out which plane (sometimes even if any) specific spell is accessing.
3) Thermodynamic laws may be only valid in some universes.
You technically may try to tread all interacting systems as one, but computations with infinity tend to lack finite results.
1) Yet the laws of thermodynamics function despite that. Any which do not have a material influence on the process can effectively be ignored, until they do.
2) In which case you just model the effects that they are producing. We are capable of modeling a heat source for instance. Which would be a lot easier than having to factor in an extra universe.
3) True. It would be interesting to see how the two reacted to one another if that were the case.
According to the prevailing theories our universe is not infinite. We have no reason to suppose that any given universe/plane we interact with will be either. In which case, at most, we are modeling two finite systems. Assuming we stick with my proposed solution under point 1) above.
Even easier if we use the one from point 2).
Depends on the vampire. Not all of them are reanimated corpses. And even they will tire. You still gotta feed them or they die a second time. Parasites take over and give them new life. It may take awhile, they aren’t drawing power from the universe are they? So no they don’t have limitless power. They are certainly stronger after feeding if they don’t over do it. But depends on the vampire and there are many and varied types. Most of them have no problem with sunlight or religious objects or any metals.
I love how she’s using the orb to create herself some fresh air.
Wouldn’t you? It’s almost like DaveB knew this was going to happen, that’s why he had her discover that ability…
What? You’re saying that it’s not a mere coincidence?
;)
Nicely observed. And a clever use, on her part.
Out of anything Ingsol could have said, I honestly did not expect “Sweet Murgatroyd”.
“Sweet sassy molassy!”
“Holy Hannah on a halfpipe!”
Element Man? is that you?
Only in Montana, but not with Tony
“blathering blatherskite!”
“Jumping Jesus on a pogostick!”
Crap on a crutch!
That’s not Jesus on the pogostick in Where’s Waldo… It’s a naked clown.
Feels like a call-back to Fineous Fingers to me, but that may just be me…
It would be really funny if Krona popped in… “You rang?”
Sweet, Murdadroid!
Great googly moogly!
DaveB,do we have diff tastes to vamps in your universe? Can some of us taste sweet while others taste husky or bitter & such?
My wife is a garlic fiend. They’d probably consider her food poisoning.
here’s a query: would squirrel meat be dangerous to someone that’s allergic to nuts?
That’s a pretty good question. If they ate the whole squirrel and got the stomach, probably. Considering my wife’s perspiration tastes like garlic though, and although I haven’t had squirrel, I have noticed rabbit has a kind of earthy/grassy taste, my guess would be a “yes”.
Given that people with nut allergies can be struck down by eating a product produced on an adjacent production line, or if a food handler does not wash their hands in between handling nuts and their food, I would say definitely.
If the squirrel-pie making chef knew this though it may be possible to avoid that by removing every organ that may contain nut trraces. Skin, lungs, digestive tract and so on.
I would think that, once the squirrel digested the nuts, the danger would pass for those who are allergic to nuts if they ate the squirrel. The processes of squirrel’s metabolism would have broken down the allergy-triggering molecule chains of the nuts.
Maybe, if they can taste pheromones, people will taste sad, happy, horny, angry, and afraid.
We know that whatever happened here did so with the door closed. There is no splatter in the hallway or on the inside of the door frame. Also, Sydney and the Mystery Crew would have noticed bloody footprints leading out. So the perpetrator either:
1) got inside, closed the door, fought whatever the guardian was, got the item(s), opened the door and flew out.
2) opened the door, tossed in a grenade, quickly closed it somehow, (muffled boom), opened the door again and got the booty they came for. (insert succubus joke here)
3) has a way to teleport themselves, or a munition then themselves, into and out of a sealed room.
In my opinion this may not have been the best way to steal from this vault. Explosions and fire inside a closed space tend to render what is inside into itty bitty pieces. (Possibly lampshaded by the Council members talking about the items inside being practically indestructible)
Heavens to sweet Murgatroid! Jehosephat, even!
Honestly I doubt it. I think it would probably be like us. I mean if i walk into the kitchen and see taco fixings spread all over the floors, walls every where. I wouldn’t think “mmmm lunch” I would think “dammit someone wasted all of the food” So he’d probably be more upset that someone wasted food by getting it all gross and dirty.
Would you think the same thing if all the ingredients were in their raw and fresh state when they were
“Flash Cooked” like some weird Cronenbergian Jiffy Pop?
My only direct experience was dealing with the mortal remains of various insects, rodents and small avians that managed to get into microwave transmitter conduits thus causing transmission issues.
Yes I would still think it was wasted food. Not sure what the question is. No I am not disgusted by most things. When I am disgusted it’s a surprise. But I certainly wouldn’t in either case be all “yum food”
But yes I would look at it and go dammit someone wasted food. I mean if you’re talking raw and fresh like a cow went boom then I might be disgusted but a cow isn’t food. The parts of a cow prepared for eating is food.
I was straight across comparing for example a human body to ground hamburger.
If there was a cow in it’s whole state equivalency for humans then that I would say is not something the vampire would look at and be all “damn wasted food”
…And let it all go cold too…
O.o
I can see Sydney has discovered a new use for the Air Orb. Smart of her to grab for it though she should have also grabbed for the shield Orb too. Better safe than sorry.
As soon as she got the Air Orb it dispelled the bad air around her.
Does Sydney have an intuitive sense of what each Orb can do for her? Which one she needs at any given moment? Or do the Orbs react to the circumstances and gravitate towards her when they sense a need?
Oh no! Poor Cooter.
If those are his remains, I can only say that he went well, for a good purpose, and not soon enough.
Ha, the cast pictures on the page header look like reactions to the comic. Well, some of them
Sydney – Aghast /fear
Anvil – looks uncomfortable
Harem -keeping her mouth closed, looks uncomfortable
Peggy – shocked expression, arm in front of face
Th others don’t really work, unless Dab routinely licks her lips at scenes of gore.
I think it’s fair to call him immortal even if it’s not literally impossible for him to die. For example the greek (and roman) gods were considered to be immortal not to mention a handful of humans to whom they granted immortality. However, it was certainly possible for them to die, since they killed their father who killed his father and while I don’t remember any myths in which the pantheon hanging out on olympus specifically died there were certainly ones where it was at least a possibility. Ingsol certainly isn’t as immortal as a god since only special mythological circumstances could kill them (not including for example being swallowed whole, being hung from the sky as punishment or having your liver eaten by vultures daily) but I think in the time period he came from no none would have argued with calling him an immortal vampire even if a beheading or stake through the heart could kill him.
Another example the philosopher’s stone was considered to grant immortality, but in the descriptions I’ve read it prolonged life indefinitely and healed all illnesses, but didn’t literally make you immune to death of any kind. Obviously there are many different ideas of what the philosphers stone was and could do, but if agelessness and immunity to illness were considered a valid example of immortality then Ingsol has that.
Of course Sidney also has a point since what is considered “immortal” is different in the super-hero world. For example the ‘Immortals’ in Marvel are specifically noted to continue in some form of existence even if their entire body is destroyed and spread across the world and can be reconstituted from that state, not to mention Mr. Immortal whose power is that he literally can not die and will theoretically see the end of the universe. By those superhero standards Ingsol is of course not even close to immortality so the disagreement may just be a modern vs archaic use of the term.
I worked out an immortality ranking system awhile back. Basically each rank is having fewer things you’re dependent on for survival. Every time I see immortality used, most have caveats and limitations in various degrees. I don’t think Immortal is so much an “on vs off” trait so much as a gradient.
For example, male humans, who don’t die as a result of sex, would probably seem immortal when compared to some insects.
Actually, even the titans and ouranos (the primordial sky god father to the titans) were never technically considered “killed.” Kronos didn’t kill ouranos, he castrated him, rendering him impotent (both sexually and in regards to his powers), it was really more symbolic than anything else, but while ouranos was definitely rendered dormant/inert I don’t think he was technically dead (consider the difference between being comatose and being dead). Similarly, Kronos was not killed, he was chopped up into tiny little bits and banished to tartaros (which was more of a maximum security prison than anything else) along with his other allies (not all of which were titans, and not all titans allied with him, and thus not all were banished to tartaros), and in fact in Greek mythology, it is demonstrated that it is entirely possible for even mortals to escape the underworld and return to life post mortem (look at sysiphus (sp?)). Similarly, being consumed whole does not kill any of them, if it did, Zeus would be the only of his siblings to have survived, the rest were totally alive in Kronos’s belly until Zeus cut them free later on; and while Zeus consuming Metis (his first wife) could be used as a counter argument, he didn’t just swallow her, he absorbed her role in the pantheon (wisdom), and even then a new goddess to fill the void sprung forth anyway (Athena), so I wouldn’t consider Metis really dying so much as being altered/reborn, because Metis WAS wisdom, then wisdom became a part of Zeus, and then wisdom became Athena (although Zeus still retained domain of at least part of the wisdom conceptualization). And Prometheus being chained to a rock and having his liver pecked out daily only to regenerate nightly is explicitly not death, he was imprisoned and tortured, which cannot be done to someone who is dead, and he is later freed (depending on which version you look at, at any rate) by Heracles, totally not dead. And the only instance that I can really recall where the gods dying was considered a possibility was the whole thing with the Ophiotaurus, and as far as I can recall the ritual (had it succeeded) would have depowered the gods, thus removing their immortality (if you remove an immortal’s immortality and then kill them, you are not killing an immortal, because they are no longer immortal, they are mortal).
Does a room smeared with pudding look appetizing to us? (and yes i mean chocolate)
Well if it is chocolate….
That look on page 7
“I’m so enjoying being able to banter with you like this, but I’m also feeling so good about knowing the fact I will be guaranteed outlive you so I can get the last witty remark while standing on your grave.”
“Heavens to Murgatroyd!”
Snagglepuss, the original Pink Panther (Okay, Puma, but still…).
(btw, did you know Murgatroyd is another name for Hell?)
Mmm. I am not finding not finding anything to corroborate that. I suspect that it may just be a case that the phrase is suggestive of what you say, albeit that it does not have any particular meaning.
Uh oh, Sydney has triggered a botox curse!
Fortunately she appears to be resisting it taking full effect, as she looks OK outside of panel 6.
Nah its a sideeffect of the orbs,They periodically try to turn her into the species that invented the orbs(Gungans).
Wow! Now that’s someone who is trying to build a bridge to link “fashion” directly into the Uncanny Valley…
The weird thing is that she used to be one of the most attractive women on British television, in her day. Then decided that looking like a fish would suit her better, for reasons most folks find hard to grasp.
Bearing in mind that I like Sandra Bullock and a few other women with fuller lips. But it is not something that suits every face, and it was a serious mistake for Lesley Ash to turn to botox.
I should mention that she did have an adverse reaction to the treatment, and looked way worse in the immediate aftermath. But I believe the photos I liked were after the corrective treatment (I recall the others being freak-show level of bad).
Oops, did the same link twice. Here was the one I meant to use for the second:
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A victim of Joker’s Laughing murder gas, as seen in the first Batman movie (not the ’66 Adam West movie)
I think I know who would be responsible for this kind of slaughter.
From the smoke a sinister voice is heard: “You are huge, that means you have huge guts. Rip and tear!”
Ingsol: “Dabbler and Decollette, run like hell.”
Clearly Doomguy was one of the things that was stored in this vault in an attempt to allow hell the chance to repopulate ;3.
nah, all they need to do is keep him away from berserker packs. then just put guns where he can’t reach.
then all he can do is monolgue to himself constantly.
A room smeared with chocolate would not look appetising to me, just gross. I think a vampire would be disgusted by all the wasted food. It is not like they can lick the blood off the walls. It needs to be pumped round by a living heart for them to suck it up, after all.
Well, I like steak, but not when it has gone nasty. I’m betting the vamps have the same reaction once blood has begun to turn to the icky side.
yeah, i can’t imagine a vampire wanting to drink blood from a fish either
Speaking of that, when the swim team were being turned into fish people Angel got a bad taste in his mouth when he tries to feed on one. Spitting that awful flavor out of his mouth.
They had been contaminated with icky chemicals/drugs.
Explain attacks on blood banks
Just like a human heart can be restarted with compression, or a dialysis machine can pump blood round someone artificially, there are alternatives. Licking blood off the wall is not one of them. But squeezing a bag of blood would provide a similar effect to a pumping heart.
The point was: they don’t need a living heart to pump the blood, that just makes it easier for the lazy sods to get their drink (why suck when the victim provides the means of spurting the liquid into the vamps’ mouth?)
Sucking is something that you do to get food into your stomach. Blood comes pre-processed into useful form and (presumably) can just be added directly to their veins. So sucking would be an inefficient way to gain nourishment.
However I am sure that vampire bats and other blood-sucking creatures do digest blood, rather than make use of it directly. But they are preying on other species, rather than one who’s blood is compatible.
It makes me wonder if vampires might do both. If they sense that a victim’s blood type matches (or is a ‘universal donor’) they can let it be pumped into their veins. Whereas if it is not compatible then they would need to digest it, as food, to avoid the risk of rejection.