Grrl Power #534 – It’s not a glitch, it’s a feature!
So we jump from the curiously gloomy comic shop (one day when I magically have all the time, I may brighten up that page a bit) to the thankfully better lit Archon lounge, featuring Dabbler’s latest Sexual Detritus. Which would be a good name for a band I guess.
So… I guess I didn’t quite think this page through entirely when I drew it, but it’s been several days in comic time, and Krona is still there and wearing the same clothes. I guess her and Dabbler were very thorough when going over her code. Presumably Krona got a “I saved several Archon agents but got hauled in anyway but everything’s okay now and all I got was this shirt” shirt in the meantime, and not the same shirt the Barberian got. The real reason is I’m just used to drawing everything moment to moment and I didn’t quite think it through. So yeah, Krona was under observation for a few days but treated as a guest otherwise. I’m sure Maxima had a very measured exchange with Ingsol about it too.
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Aww – I wanted to see her break the Universe….
Or at least bend it a little.
NOOooooooo. I don’t want the universe to any kinkier!
… to be… …to be any kinkier. Darn inability to self-edit.
No, we got what you mean…
Just not sure all of us agree with you >^.^<
Agreed. Anyway, the place is already a bit warped. I’d just rather it was warped in slightly different ways. :-)
The would sure bring a quick ending to DaveB’s story, so I certainly wouldn’t want to see that.
O.o
Not being able to break the Universe is a good thing… right? I mean I’m sure if she COULD break the Universe she should also be able to put it back together again but why risk some small but vital bit rolling under couch and getting lost?
If you can break the universe at all, there are a gazillion ways to break it such that you no longer exist (and, for that matter, never did exist)… which means you could not put it back together again.
It’s funny how much debate there was over Krona being able to break the universe, and the proper response and all that…. And then Dave’s like, “Nope, she can’t do that. We’re good.” Page after page of debate, and…. “Nope, you’re good.”
The reasoning is solid though, it’s not just a “nope, can’t do it” and more “not enough mana” type of explanation. It’s kind of similar to the idea of the robot being capable of learning Maxima’s powers not automatically being able to *match* her powers. Crona has the capasity to code something that would, in theory, destroy the universe, but she does not have the energy available to actually do it.
Yay, hopefully more Krona shenanigans! I really like her!
The only thing odd in my eyes is that she wears that colourful shirt with the drab long skirt. I could be very wrong, but it clashes between casual and formal too much for my mind.
To each their own. My sister’s and I where similar outfits to this occasionally. They’re comfortable and you can take it off in layers when you get warm.
I suspect you misunderstood. It wasn’t about the combination of a long sleeve shirt and a short sleeve shirt (which might actually be one shirt made to mimic that style) but it was about the color scheme of the shirt and skirt combination.
If you did understand correctly I am left confused how wearing a shirt and skirt combination allows you to take off layers, without flashing a lot of skin that you might not want in public.
If you look at her neckline, there is a darker tank top underneath the shirt which probably matches better. Outside in the heat she could pull off the bright top and be better coordinated.
Not quite what I meant, sorry. Shirt and skirt together is perfectly fine, I was talking about the colour combination. The brightly coloured shirt is casual, but the brown skirt looks very formal, especially because it’s a long skirt. It just looks an odd combination to me.
So is that the official Dabbler ejection couch now? And how often is it getting disinfected/replaced/burned?
That’s just some of Dabbler’s tech. Self cleaning/disinfecting couch.
One would hope daily.
Dabbler shoudn’t dump her empties in the dayroom, she should put them in recycling.
Probably outside the infirmary where they can get a going-away checkup and some Gatorade.
Yeah but it’s harder to set up a running joke if you put them out of the way like would be most sane.
Also makes it easier for DaveB to try out new characters artistically, without committing to them. like Dabbler.
plus an enhanced recovery boost to help them get back to there day
I think that would be intentional on DaveB’s part, establishing this as a “running joke,” even if they’re all exhausted right from the very first time DaveB started it running.
;)
I’m officially naming that couch the Dabbler Leftover Disposal Area.
Or how about calling it the SOFA storage facility?
S(pent) O(vernight) F(**ktoy) A(ccessories)
That’s just where she leaves her empties. Doesn’t mean they were consumed on the spot.
Yeah, she lets them recycle themselves so she can get some “return value” from them later.
In software land we usually say “It’s not a bug, it’s a feature!”
just FYI
it comes from the old relay basec computers that could get actual bugs in the switches where they had to debug them :) which became the name for small mistakes in Software.
I’d also think more of a short-lived visual artifact in GUI code to be referred to as a glitch.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debugging
and sorry for the typo’s
I was always taught that my bugs became features after they were documented.
After Dabbler studied Krona’s abilities, she probably documented them…So that condition seems to have been filled.
I’ve had to explain to customers that ‘yeah, your bug? It’s a feature. This report isn’t used for inventory counts, it’s used for inventory value. You want that report.’
Nothing like operator error to make a feature look like a bug.
Please, use the phrase sparingly when a bug is really a bug, it can sometime be difficult to convince customers that a feature should not be ‘fixed’.
I always wondered if back in medieval Europe of the late 990s a bunch of scribes sat around wondering how they could fix the oncoming Y1K crisis. “Oh no! We are going to have to add another column to the abacus!”
:-D
actually, point of fact, in the late 990s they tended to use Regnal years. Dating things from the birth of Christ only really began to catch on in the 11th century.
As someone who had to fix problems that come up for other ppl, the worse one I have ever had is the ‘ONOFF’ bug (on/off). And yes they either didn’t turn it on or they turned it off and didn’t think about it before calling me. Then again I did get a lot of PEBKAC bugs too. (Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair)
So we got an explanation for why Krona is still there a few days later (and in the same clothes), but what about ‘Dabbler’s conquest’ on the couch? Has he been there for several days too or was there an update on the hunt for Sciona just the day before?
I think it’s been established Dabbler needs to… ahem… have her fluids topped off, on the regular. Seeing as she’s well acquainted with both the supers and the supernaturals, she gets it from both groups.
I know. I was just curious how those two met up again days after the Sciona hunt has been put on hold.
It seems Dabbler has no trouble finding dipsticks to check her fluid levels…
She’s a Tantric bug zapper – she doesn’t have to find them, she just turns on and they find her.
+1
“It’s so hypnotic… I can’t help myself…”
A damned adorable itty bitty blue haired package. (Got a thing for the tiny ladies. A-team groupie fo’ life, yo!)
+1 ♥
I’m in that fanclub, too. Soon as Yorp sees this, I am fully confident he’ll chime in the same way.
I really liked the Aladdin reference.
Was wondering if it was wrong that I liked the itty-bitty blue-haired package more than the Dabbler. Good to know I’m not alone.
What’s the name of “Dabbler’s Latest Conquest”? Can we get some info about him? Also why didn’t Dabbler and Krona get it on? Did Dabbler even try to? If not, Why? (I ask solely because she is a Succubus)
He was last seen with Scarlett and one of the Harems on the Echo team, which saw no action. Which is probably why he DEFINITELY got some action later on.
So, what? Krona reality-hacked her clothes clean? Also, Dabbler needs to have a harem exit unit, complete with recovery facilities & extraction protocols, maybe even an Arc-Light exit interview (I hesitate to call it a debriefing; that already happened) to gather more data.
Why not? If she can easily swap out clothes of people or change the size why wouldn’t she be able to clean them too? Might be she had already made them stain-proof as well.
Also, since there are aliens she’s fully familiar with, it’s possible she has that spray stuff that makes clothes unable to get wet or dirty, but at an alien’s level instead of our own.
FYI, sportswear companies have found that making clothes waterproof also makes them unable to wick perspiration way from the skin. This can lead to overheating from lack of evaporative cooling and even dehydration as the body sweats even more to try to cool itself.
I don’t think that will be an issue for too long, even in our world. In due course some bright spark will figure out how to create a valve-like effect, using nano-materials, that lets water molecules pass in one direction only.
Aliens with the level of technology that we would assume they would have access to if either star-faring, or hanging around with races who are, should have long passed that level of technology.
Thought they already did that? A material that draws moisture one-way, typically away from your body
It would not surprise me. I have not been keeping up with bleeding edge technology as much as I used to. Probably only in prototype mind. If it had reached the market (and was not just a gimmick which pretended that without being effective) then I think there would have been enough publicity that it would be better known.
There are some that claim that effect, but it’s more to do with the garment design than the fabric finish. I’m not aware* of anything that’s actually a chemical ratchet in the way you implicitly describe, at least in a garment-usable state as opposed to custom-made molecules in the lab. Even if it did exist, it would be the Devil’s own job to get the molecules oriented the right way in a production process so that the ratchet actually goes the way you want rather than small-scale random.
Very hydrophilic finishes (the opposite of waterproof) make water spread out into a wide, thin layer. High surface area means fast evaporation from the exposed side, and the hydrophilic wetting effect keeps pulling water round from the inside to replace that lost from the outside. But if you don’t have evaporation removing water from the outside – if there’s another layer of fabric in the way, or the air is too humid – then there isn’t anything to drive the system and pull water through from the inside.
*Source: technical textile finishes, including high-spec protective wear, is my day job. If a viable molecular ratchet existed, we would be using it by the barrel-load.
Interestingly they’ve also discovered that while synthetics that wick away the sweat tends to feel dry it will actually be more smelly than the same type of garments made from cotton. Turns out that some bacteria (exact name escapes me at the moment) that thrives on synthetic materials are also excellent at producing that locker-room stench, while the bacteria that thrives on cotton fabrics doesn’t stink as bad.
So if you want to feel fresh but doesn’t care what you smell like then go for synthetics, but if you care about the smell choose cotton…
Or you can go with a Fremen suit, that recycles all the fluids.
Mind you then you end up looking like a bald seal.
perhaps it should be called a Rebriefing
Now for something COMPLETELY unrelated to this comic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnzE6zOy9hA
I’ll match the Country and add some lab-rat
And now I want to know what would have happened if Pixel had bled out, she didn’t trigger the ‘reset after all.
Is this restoring a backup or can it actually ‘heal’ death, or do you end up with a perfectly healthy dead pixel?
(Or should that be a stuck pixel?)
I wonder about the panel one inset. What is Sydney saying there? I would normally think shes agreeing with Krona, but her look suggests she knows more than she is saying. Are we seeing a hint as to another orb function?
She understand the words but probably not the combined meaning.
This song would be perfect for Krona’s “Checkpoint Hack; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYvcppG1W34
What’s Sydney doing there,visiting Krona?
Uh…Sydney belongs there. She’s part of the organisation, remember? Krona is there because she was getting evaluated (not “evaluated”) by Dabbler ( https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/2519 ) as per Max’s insistence ( https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/2506 ).
Checking in on her new best friend! :) ;)
Krona got arrested, I mean forcefully invited, to get evaluated on pain of all the stuff that Max could do to her if she tried to make other plans. On the upside, she is being let go because that’s totally the way the law works as regards being secure in your person. Any black site interrogator will tell you that.
That would assume they were “disappearing” Krona. While I don’t doubt Archon could disappear someone if they were a threat, I think in this case, Max was being honest about their motives. Since Krona’s not actually a threat in the way Max feared, she can go.
It’s still a power issue. A guy with a gun in his hand saying I should come with him regardless of what my guardians or superiors want for me can be the nicest, most kind and capable person in the world. But is long as he’s in a stronger position than I am it’s an ultimatum, especially if he’s talking about dealing with my support/backup AFTER I’ve done what he wants.
And Max is, for all we know, the most powerful person on the planet. She could pinch off Krona’s head from a starting point of who knows how many feet further away than from the point they were talking at before Krona could blink or call up her console to fuck off her trajectory or port her to like, Antarctica. Ergo she had the position of power, and trivialized the legitimacy of Krona’s handlers’ desires while also casting aside what Krona may have wanted with the way she worded the ‘request’.
Krona is far stronger than Maxima. Maxima is fast but Chrona can both alter reality and turn back time. At the time of making the jugement call it appeared to be an absolute control of time (albeit a flawed one that had errors which were causing unexplainable effects).
All of the examples you gave of how Maxima could beat Krona would be undone, if Krona has a checkpoint in effect. Even if Krona did as she had said previously, and had none running, she need merely pretend to cooperate, until Maxima looks away or deals with another matter, and she could activate a fresh checkpoint.
Or Krona could defeat Maxima by simply turning one setting from ‘superhuman = 1’ to ‘superhuman = 0’! Maxima as a normal person would not pose much of a threat to Krona. She would not even be strong enough to fire her own gun!
Krona did not have to comply with Maxima’s orders. She had the greater power. Krona chose to because she realised that she had indeed been endangering reality. She actually says that what Maxima wanted made sense.
What she did not say was ‘you are wrong’ or ‘I protest that you are treating me unfairly’ or ‘I want a lawyer because I feel threatened by you’.
It’s a shiny building with their logo on the side, they told people who cared where Krona went, and so on and so forth. You can argue about the details of habeas corpus but ‘black site interrogator’ is just plain wrong.
+1
So, is this a Chekov’s plot point?
Ah, who knows? So let’s go to the club & get loaded.
:D
Chekov’s check point.
I think you mean “Chekhov’s,” as in Anton Chekhov, not Pavel Chekov.
Oh right, sorry, forgot my Russian.
“Exponential” is a word to describe a relationship between two variables. It can be an exponential growth of required power [W] with the time travel distance [h]. Dabbler, since she’s proficient in mathematics, wouldn’t use this term to just describe that “you need moar powah”, especially that the two actions (reset and time travel) are not instances of the same phenomenon.
I agree. Out of all of Krona’s words here, that struck me as the most meaningless. There is an unfortunate tendency for people to use “exponentially” when they really just mean “a lot more.”
This bugged me too, but maybe Krona is just misquoting Dabbler.
Unlike Data, Dabbler understands that undue precision makes people glaze over, so she just used it like most people do to mean “tons more” Though if there’s a better word I’d consider changing it. The problem being we don’t know Krona’s power output and the target Dabbler had in mind.
The first thing that comes to mind is “orders of magnitude more,” but Vehemence already used it. Then there’s “tons more,” but I assume you already rejected that one.
You could try “more power than I’ll generate in my life,” but then people will start thinking it’s possible to save up power somehow. And “more power than a human could generate” might not even be true (and either way, it would be a spoiler).
…I don’t know. Unless you’re willing to reuse “orders of magnitude,” I can’t think of anything that meets your criteria.
There is always ‘buttloads of…” However, this may not be the best time to use this one, considering it may be misconstrued with the Dabbler references in this particular comic.
(Hmm, do you ‘construe’ something if you guess right about it?)
I would have thought that you “misconstrue” if your interpretation is wrong, “correctly construe” if it’s right and, in both cases (or if nothing is proved yet) can simply be referred to as having “construed”.
After careful experimentation using our local McDonalds, we have determined that a “buttload” is 8, at least in reference to condiment packages. 95% accuracy over 5 people and 6 months – astonishingly consistent.
And now you know…
And now you really know;
A buttload,
https://gizmodo.com/butt-is-an-actual-unit-of-measurement-1622427091?IR=T .
There’s also the other “butt” measurement. Specifically, the width of a horse’s butt.
The United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8 1/2 inches derives from the original specification for an Imperial Roman army war chariot, which were made to be wide enough to accommodate the butts of two war horses.
The solid rocket boosters (SRBs) on the Space Shuttle were made by Thiokol at a factory in Utah. They were shipped by train from the factory to the launch site. The railroad from the factory runs through a tunnel in the mountains. The SRBs had to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is slightly wider than a railroad track, and the railroad track is about as wide as two horses’ butts.
So a major design feature of what was arguably the world’s most advanced transportation system (at the time) was originally determined by the width of a horse’s ass.
“Örders of magnitude, one order of magnitude, is 1*10, rders of one = 10,100,1000
They all “went back” what, 15-20 minutes?
So to insert yourself into the 4d timestream at that earlier point, you would have to alter the states of everything within your 4D lightcone to their prior state. In this case, everything within 15-20 lightminutes distance.
So, among other things, she would have to reformat the sun if she went back that far.
So Krona’s reset is more like the Omega 13?
13 seconds would still be the entire earth/moon system, but not quite as bad as adding an entire solar mass. Still probably far beyond Krona’s level of power.
Only the light heading towards the team, and their immediate vicinity, need be affected (even if bothering to alter things other than just their bodies and equipment). This would be a vastly smaller energy requirement, to manipulate, than the whole sun, and any other celestial bodies involved.
For instance, clearly, the Earth was not affected by the reset. Maxima and everyone else carried on doing the things that Earth and its inhabitants usually get up to. Plus New York (or whatever bit they are in) remained attached to the rest of the planet.
i.e. the reset did not involve moving everything in the vicinity back to its previous positions, and states. The ground remained wherever the rotation and orbit of the Earth had placed them. So there is no reason to assume that the Moon or Sun would be affected either. Rather it is just the specific things which relate to the team.
You are taking the “not real time travel” as evidence of what a real time travel would do.
I’m explaining why dabbler says krona cant mess with time.
Gotcha.
I like that expression Sydney has in the inset in panel 1: It’s like, “Yeah, Sure.”
Cheer up Krona. Just as you don’t fully know what you can do, neither does Dabbler. She can figure what you have done and make guesses about want might be possible. But neither of you truly know what your potential is.
Wanna test that, internet? Sure. Give me your best pronouncement on the full capability of C and we can stack that up against the same sort of thoughts pre systemV.
As per measured words. Pfft what hilarity. As with everything Max does:
Ingol: You can’t just…
Max: What are you going to do about it?
Ingol: …
Max: We are done here. Get out.
Ingol; Its MY meeting room! Never mind, I’m going.
I don’t know; Ingsol doesn’t strike me as a rhetorical proclamations kind of guy. If that was how the conversation was going to go, he wouldn’t have bothered starting it. He’s, what was it? (Goes back and checks.) Seven hundred years old. He’s not going to throw a tantrum, particularly if he knows that it’s pointless. If he has *information* to relate, he’ll do that. Could be this pissed off more of the Council than Maxima would expect; he’d let her know that. Could be he’s smoothing that over as best he can. He’d let her know that. Hell, if there was no *news* to relate, the “measured exchange” was probably just an expression on Ingsol’s face that indicated “the situation is exactly as you expect; thanks so much for making my afterlife a bigger pain in the ass than it already was.”
The capabilities of C: if a computer can do it (or control the device(s) that can do it), then it can be done in C. May not be the first-choice language, but it CAN be done.
I’m guessing Maxima got Harem to go to Krona’s place to pick up some clothes for her and Krona just has multiples of the same shirt
With her abilities, I’m pretty sure Krona can be wearing whatever she feels like wearing at any given moment. “I’m over the whole long-sleeved tee and skirt thing.” (bip, bip, bip) “Yeah, a tank top and jeans is better.”
She may have also gotten back at Max for bringing her back to base by making her uniform jacket SMALLER at some point during the time she was here. (Hopefully during another video-conference with the president).
Hey! Maybe she’s the cause of the ‘Mandela Effect’ !”
Short version: Amy Dallen!
Long version: Just saw an old episode of Geek and Sundry’s ESCAPE! program (escape room show wid da starz, basically, only they are smart people and usually sort of small-scale stars, which often seems to go together, somehow…) ANYWAY:
IF you ever get a GRRL POWER MOVIE ™ I have found you the PERFECT star: Amy Dallen! Check her out in imdb or the episode, or something.
I was watching the episode, and the minute she was introduced, I immediately thought “Grrl Power!” and had to rush over here to leave this comment, before I forgot.
Here’s the episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dvDD0vKWdM&index=3&list=PLwdZeRoz7lRR_HBOZIu7zZsSjCbCyi4Gc or, you can just search for it yourself – it’s Geek & Sundry’s episode: Welcome… to DINOSAUR PARK! (Escape w/ Janet Varney)
Wow. Yeah, that would work.
Holy crap, you are right. She would be perfect.
You can also catch her on the web-series Future Girl. Where she even has blue hair!
https://www.futuregirlshow.com/
If anyone understands the conflicting desire to have world destroying power at your fingertips, it’s Sydney.
Whats complicated “i just like knowing i can” covers it
Its not that she would break reality it would just be kinda awesome to know you could
So instead of shifting an area back in the fourth dimension she ‘only’ reverted all matter in the area to the state it was in when the spell was cast?
That… isn’t that much smaller of an effect. Especially since it did so with enough detail to warp the very synapses of those involved.
Still, effective telekinesis, even on this scale, does fit more in line with that worlds powers than full of Chronal shifting.
yep that does not exclude something on the style of all $important internal organ of $person moves 2 meters left.
That’s what bugs me about so many superpower-related movies.
For example, Stephen King’s Firestarter. Training? They taught this kid to make bigger and bigger fires and explosions. For control, she was pretty much on her own – fortunately she recognized a need. Now think, which of these would be useful more often: to make a fire that explodes a large building and scatters flaming wreckage over several blocks, or to make a fire that cooks a single cubic centimeter of flesh in a location that you can identify but not actually see… such as in the heart or brain-stem of that bad guy over there with the hostages?
If Halo’s orbs lets her produce enough energy to time travel, she is officially the most powerful hero/character in the series, methinks. Imagine if she can put that kind of energy behind the PPO. “Oops. I just cleaved the planet asunder” rofl
more like oops novaed that star.
So mystery orb #2 is the ‘undo’ orb for those awkward moments?
Time to break poor Halo’s heart – and reveal Krona is Leon’s girlfriend. :O
It seems obvious that Krona just hacks reality to clean and change her shirts whenever she wants to. If she’s busy with something she wouldn’t bother changing them, just freshen them up. Or for that matter, maybe she never changes the appearance of her clothes at all, since she’s got more important things to worry about.
Writing code when you don’t understand the operating system is a pretty BAD idea.
you just dissed millions of managers their vbs excel scripts.
Hmm, that grey bloke on the couch is going to have a really painful knee when he wakes up. The weight of his lower leg is going to be putting bending pressure on the knee joint in the wrong direction. I’ve slept on couches a lot of times, I can see that posture wouldn’t work when you’re asleep and the muscles stop supporting the weight of the leg. :)
Actually, if you look at panel five (six if you count inset Sydney), his right leg is bent and he is resting the knee on it’s side, it just looks like he is resting it on the front of the knee due to the angle and his position
You’re right, that’s not so bad.
Also, keep in mind that he’s going to seek out alternative resting positions. After a night with Dabbler, I imagine there’s a lot of sore muscles (and tissues) that would preclude standard couch sleeping styles.
Even without time travel, Sydney’s earlier question is still valid. The checkpoint repositioned everyone to their earlier position, *on the Earth’s surface*, but the Earth had moved quite a bit in the meantime. If Krona had no idea what she was doing, it was quite fortunate that everybody didn’t suddenly find themselves in deep space.
Yep! With the reposition in 3D space, what’s the frame of reference? Earth has, after all, hurtled thousands of miles during that short wee-bitty time that they reset to.
Although, if it was a hard reset, then the enemy knowing something was up and sending a golem up and them losing their memories could make sense; cuz you know, if brain chemistry changes and neuronal impulses are responsible for memory and you literally undid all that, it would be logical to say the memories all disappeared as well.
Your comment mandates the following line:
“Geeeks……innnn…..Spaaace!!”
The ubiquitous Doctor Strange-Quark
“Krona is still there and wearing the same clothes.”
It’s been a few days…..
She doesn’t have a lot of clothes with her. She merely is wearing those clothes AGAIN. The HQ does have a washer/dryer, right?
Me, I like to wear outer clothes two or three times before washing, unless I sweated a lot.
Yup, was going to suggest that as well: Archon politely provided her with a change of clothes (in a delightful shade of ‘orange jumpsuit’), and then fumigated her clothes (and didn’t insert tracking nanites, at all >_> ) and gave them back when they ‘let her go’
Oh no. Calling it now, she develops the ability to break the fourth wall.
Krona or Sydney? If the latter, she’ll be too much like Deadpool.
Chrona obviously. She can technically fuck with tome, and she’s only going to get more powerful.
actual way that works would be
1 break 4th wall
2 gain access to higher reality
3 learn of zebragirl web comic
4 dabbler tomey
All while hacking reality with style.
Is he one of the living statues from the first veil meeting?
Construct or living statue?
IF she (Dabs) can exhaust a statue…just woah. Okay maybe fed off him as well as their actions. That would do it.
She should look into packaging that energy and effort into tablet form. Okay not as fun, but imagine the shenanigans from others accidentally ingesting a level 4 tantric orgasm pill?
Nope, he was the Aegean who got gyped out of a movie role in favour of Brad Pitt
He must have pretty good stamina. It is now 2 (or so) days after the Council sent out the search parties and he is still at headquarters. Plus, he was last seen in New York. Did he get a ride on the Osprey back to Archon HQ? With the memory wipe he will probably feel pretty disoriented when he finally fully wakes up.
“Wait, the last I remember I was searching some back alley in New York. Where am I?”
“At Archon Headquarters.”
“Where is that?”
“We can’t tell you.”
“Because its location is secret?”
“No.”
“Then why?”
“Because Dave hasn’t told us where it is yet.”
“It’s not a glitch, it’s a feature!” reminds me of a MUF, Microsoft Undocumented Feature aka a bug, but that works in a positive way.
You know. All these smug comments about ‘disposing’ of Dabbler’s… more-or-less victims. Her ’empties’, the ‘used-up’ ones. Discarding of them in bins and couches and such.
What would happen to all of them if we changed the gender around? What if Math was an incubus and we find couches full of ‘used-up’ women? Discarded after use.
Maybe take a look at yourselves, some of you – especially those of you chiming in laughing at ‘Dabbler’s conquests’. If you’d do the same both ways, more power to you. But considering how many of you drop everything you’re doing to defend or make up reasons why it’s okay for a female character to do something, I wonder how okay it really is.
The question is, did they consent?
Wait, better question: did they consent before being exposed to Dabbler’s lust aura? Because once they’re exposed, it’s a lot like being drunk. Auras like hers and V’s seem to be hard to resist.
Also, were they informed of the effects of the aura beforehand? You can’t have informed consent without information!
All Dabbles does is remove the memory of the muscles she uses, so as not to spoil them for human women
Dabbler’s lust aura is powerful, but it does not compel people to have sex with her. She was pushing her aura when she first met Sydney, and no one in the room had to have sex with her.
And to Mahapo, the reason that Dabbler’s conquests are treated comically when Math’s conquests might not be is because sexually active women are treated very differently than sexually active men (especially within the context of one night stands). Men are almost never shamed for dressing or acting sexually when such shaming is almost certain if a woman dresses similarly.
Being drunk doesn’t compel anyone to have sex with anyone else. However, it impairs judgment, and people end up doing things they wouldn’t have wanted to while sober. That’s why a sober person having sex with a drunk person is often considered rape.
As for the double standard you mentioned, that was Mahapo’s point.
we do need to remember she is following her cultures mores and standards (just as a islamic refuses to eat pork but will eat beef while, and I appologize if I am wrong about it, hindu will eat pork but not beef) so this is OK based not on gender.
How ok it is within her culture is irrelevant if it’s harming others within ours. Not that I’m willing to say one way or another but she’s certainly been a touchy subject of a character in my eyes.
Yes, most of us would like to be touching Dabbles
I am very anti anything that affects the mind. That said though if Dabbler warns them of the risks (the possibility that normal females will no longer be appealing) and gets their concent to use the memory hammer to reduce that problem (their memories do return, but slowly and without the powerful impact), then there is a reasonable moral basis to her actions.
Thank goodness! Sydney’s bangs are finally at the side of her face instead of in front of it! Now she doesn’t look like an out-of-place cartoon character! :D
(I’m actually really happy about this.)
The faces and the art in general are still looking weird, but I really like Sydney’s face in panels 1 and 4, and Krona’s face in panel 3.
Personally, I just assumed that Krona had a “make my shirt clean” spell. Or a “duplicate my shirt and put it in the closet” spell. Or maybe it was laundry day in an intervening day and she just really likes that outfit.
I don’t think that the time skip invalidates her current wardrobe choice at all, especially not to the point that you have to say she’s been wearing one set of clothes for several days because she was looking over code.
Man these short skinny girls are the biggest troublemakers in this world.
He he. I like Krona.
If she’s disappointed, couldn’t she, in theory, use recursion to hack her own powers in order to give herself universe-breaking ability?
No, because Dave has indicated that supers have an inherent power level, which determines how strong their abilities are. This was in the context of the construct potentially copying her own powers. Maxima was not too concerned, as she rated its power-level to be too low to be a significant threat. It would have her powers, but none would be particularly dangerous (compared to Maxima, anyhow).
Combine that with what we learn above and clearly Krona cannot just adjust a slider, that says ‘power level’, she would need to be able to inject that power in from somewhere.
So, whilst it is possible that Krona could grant someone a power, of some kind, it would need to be someone who already has an innate power level. Either that or Krona would have to donate power to them, from herself.
But she cannot do the same to herself. It would be like siphoning petrol out of a car, to try and give it more fuel.
However, if you’re going to use the fuel analogy, I would argue that you -can- modify a vehicle to hold more fuel than it was originally designed to. In most cases, more “fuel” could allow supers to maintain peak power levels longer, but someone like Harem might be able to push past her current limits, and someone like Max would have more power to pour into a single ability, or allocate more to one or more abilities without completely depleting the others. What if someone like Krona wasn’t capable of using higher level abilities because her body couldn’t store the fuel necessary to pull it off, but then she goes and turns her ordinary fuel pouch into a fuel bag of holding?
Then if your argument is that her body still wouldn’t recharge past her original levels, what if she hacked herself to allow for energy absorption? Or what if someone whose ability is to reduce fatigue by increasing energy levels was able to fill up her fuel bag of holding?
She could use an external source. Lock her in a basement with a hot furnace and she could relocate that heat to the lock, concentrate it on a weak spot and melt it off. She may even be able to change the heat energy into kinetic energy and launch her captor into orbit (even while indoors)
Ok, she would normally just toggle the lock from closed to open, but I’m talking more the principle of using other power sources, especially when there is a big firey core below your feet and an even more powerful one in the sky.
What if GrrlVerse is the real world, and we are the made-up one? o_O
Nobody could make me up!
You would look funny in that shade of lipstick, and highheels do nothing for you :P
I’d like to think that Sydney and Krona are talking in louder than necessary voices the same way people do when someone has a bad hangover.
Never mind people‘s voices, you try waking up with a hangover in the same room as a canary that’s singing its dawn chorus: Once experienced, never (alas!) forgotten…
It could be worse, believe me. I spent the night at the house of a friend who had adopted a parrot that had been abused.
Imagine having a hangover in the same room with a parrot that wakes you up by saying “F–k you! F–k you!” over and over.
And if it’s a really bad hangover, there’s always this line from Red Dwarf:
“Is it my imagination, or is that cockroach crawling too loudly?”
I am so thankful that I never experience hangovers, even though I do enjoy a good evening’s drinking, once in a while. The most I ever get is dehydration symptoms, which I can either prevent by having a pint of water, before bed, or cure with the same, in the morning.
Of course there is the, very rare, instance of waking up still drunk, but that is not a hangover. That is just having a particularly late drinking session and having to get up too early!