Grrl Power #477 – Hossenstressor
Don’t fret too much about Kat, the Mannekillers are severely outnumbered at this point. Actually I don’t know what Dabbler is doing right now, I guess she’s sparring with the big one with the helmet, just behind what we can see in the last panel there, cause that’s easier to draw. Trust me though, it’s a spectacular battle probably.
These things came remarkably well equipped considering what would have happened if they’d been able to unload their weapons in there. Even just the first grenade would have sewn enormous chaos, but of course, we don’t know what the goal of this attack is yet.
Oh and by popular demand, I added Kat’s tail to the last page… dang it, I just realized you can’t see it on this page now. Well, her shirt was flying up on the last page and now it’s tucked back in. Bleh, well that’s an easy fix. Anyway, jackrabbit’s don’t have poofy cotton tails so much as flicky deer looking tails, and also I decided Kat hasn’t had the time to hem tailholes into all her pants yet, so it’s just poking out all awkwardly.
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Okay to defeat these things we just need three characters:
-Dabbler
-Harem
-Maxima
Xuriel’s gotta have some spacemetal boxes in at least one of her labs. She can serve as a defensive distraction while Max works.
Maxima could tear them into pieces, one at a time.
Harem could teleport back and forth, stuffing the ripped off pieces in each box, so none of them can reform.
Or…. You just incinerate each part as it comes off. Max or Halo could manage this, but halo might create a few craters with her work.
It is just possible that the kevlar+ combat fatigues might give Harem the edge. But one scratch from those claws, and she would be a gonner, as she has no special defenses. For it to be a safe plan, I think she would need to have them pre-boxed. But that could be pushing her teleport limit.
Boxes big enough to hold limbs will be bigger than Peggy’s 50 cal. Add in the durability you are after and they will be heavy too (although if Dabbler can provide lightweight, strong ones, as you suggest, then that would be fine). I doubt that Dabbler would want Harem in her laboratory though. Plus it probably has automated defenses to stop intrusion. With Dabbler being here, not there, that could be a problem.
Possibly Dabbler’s hammerspace trick could call them, but we have only seen her call things big enough to be held in one hand. For a reason, as her teleporter is built into the cybernetic arm. As such I suspect that big boxes might be beyond her capacity, from a sheer bulk point of view.
What about that metal ribbon/tape stuff?
Oh, come to think of it, didn’t she say she was nearly out of those and would need a fair bit of time to craft more? I think I recall her having only one cartridge remaining and plans to use it for something.
Yup. Good for one limb or manikin, but that may save her around about now, if you recall what she was holding in her hand, and look at the above comic for inspiration.
Just using the bsdm gun she used on the baddies from before would work fine. No magic and strong bindings…
Yup. Her one problem being that she does not carry many reloads for her ammo. Mainly because she has to make them all by hand, and gets bored easily. So she certainly could immobilise some. But there are probably more limbs than she has shots. So, whilst others are free, they would be able to cut the bound ones out.
She doesn’t have to mummify individual limbs, the reason that speed freak got away was because he was able to vibrate fast enough to friction his way out
True, she could do the whole body. But they still have claws on their hands, so could cut away at whatever strands were nearest to them (say their legs, if the hand was bound to that). All being one long ribbon, severing one part makes it possible to unravel the rest.
But it still has the problem that any which are not bound can just cut their fellows free, with a single swipe of their claws. Even if she has enough reloads, she can only shoot one at a time. Plus they are extremely fast opponents.
They could only cut if they had room to move, and we have no idea how sharp the blades or claws are: they may be enchanted to pierce through magic barriers but in all other senses still be normal blades
Their ‘friends’ can only help if they are not themselves getting pushed around
Cutting probably isn’t an option anyway. Remember what Dabbler said way back when.
“Those myolinear ribbons can be used to tow asteroids. You won’t be cutting your way out of them.”
Except, “Runs With Knives” did cut his way out
Not exactly.
According to DaveB’s commentary, he virbrated so fast that he managed to burn through the ribbons.
Clearly not so. He’s still wearing clothes. ;-P
He is a super speedster, he will be wearing friction burn resistant material. Courtesy of Edna Mode probably, given that he has no cloak. Or he may have gone with off-the-shelf Machima Industry’s fire retardant fabric, and used his local tailor.
Cut or burn, he still managed to escape from something Dabbles believed to be inescapable, and again, that was only because he was a Speedster
Those are fair points.
Unlike the ones the manikins have. Most underhand.
random thought… halo’s shield cuts off all kinds of weirdness, re: vehemences aura, re: Harems multimind…. assuming these are being controlled (or fed power from) an alternate location, would her shield shut them down if she dropped it around them, do you think?
It’s been asked, and pointed out that to do that she has to be IN the shield with the murderous mannequins. Too much of a risk since Unlike V who just wanted a good FIGHT these things obviously are made to KILL.
Halo’s shield only blocks Harem’s teleportation, not her multi mind.
Didn’t Harem say she felt ‘cut off’ from the rest?
Nope!
Stops her from teleporting, and probably also stops her from placing a body in storage as that’s kind of a function of her teleportation ability.
I think that would depend on how it’s “Put into storage”. If it’s more the body being de-constructed or absorbed (Possible since the fewer copies are active, the strong they are), it would be possible as long as there were more than one in the shield to start with.
Thank you, remembered that bit about during the fight how she couldn’t get through, and how she found it ‘unsettling’ once she got in, just misremembered parts
In superhero RPG’ this is why I’ve always hated fighting robots…You never could tell what the hell they’re hiding just under the surface.
:-(
You have a problem with robots in disguise?
Wait, WHAT?! Awwwww…. :(
That depends: are they on my side or not?
You must hate robot swans and their robot iceberg carriers then.
You forgot the roboducks.
The ugly robot duckling becomes a robot swan.
And the cybergeese.
Those I run away from. Fast.
Cybercygnus?
Robots with tentacles are the absolute worst. Grappling plus hidden weaponry, and often flying. Who thought self learning robot rocket squids were a good idea anyways?
I’m guessing this is where the-
“I’ve seen enough Hentai to know where THIS is going”
-line goes? :P
Someone who might have been more popular in Hentai comics than in America:
https://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Doctor_Octopus
Like a robot I created for Champions™. When the robot was being built a sudden storm caused a freak installation of a different personality than was planned. The first words of the personality were
“Know you that I am Longinius, Centurion of the Tenth Legion.
I have been Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh.
I have been called a hundred names, and will be called a thousand more before the world goes dim and cold.
I have been killed a thousand times and every time I return.
I fight for truth, I fight for glory, I fight for love, I fight for beauty.
I am HERO.”
Nice quote – is that from someplace or someone? It sounds familiar…
I got it from a fan-fic of Neon Genesis Evangelion. The speaker is a reborn wielder of the Spear of Destiny. He is technically the forever hero.
When you see robots charging to attack you in your base, odds are very good they are pretty darned ready for whatever powers and abilities you’ve displayed in public.
If you are charging robots to attack them in their base, they are less likely to be optimized to combat you personally.
Lesson: Whenever possible, attack robots in their base.
Right?
::grins foolishly::
When fighting robots, no matter where, you should always assume that they’re more than meets the eye.
Mind you a palm-spike, or poisoned claws do just fine, if they meet the eye.
When fighting robots use Godzilla.
But…what if they are designed to be godzilla killing robots?
Even they tend to have a hard fight.
And Godzilla wins.
ALWAYS!
The best option for attacking a villain’s base is to do so wearing a tuxedo and swilling a vodka martini. Sheer plot armor will protect you from harm, and possibly find you a romantic interlude while doing so.
Unless your 006
and 008 was always late ( as in The Late 008 )
If Katrina had just listened to Bell Biv DeVoe, she would have learned to never trust a mannequin with a big butt, because that mannequin is Poi… son.
Poi… poi… poi… poison,
Poi… poi… poi… poison.
why did i just think of Brook from One Piece and his song on Film Z? XD
Personally was thinking of Poi E
Interesting song. Shame it did not get to be a hit outside of Middle Earth.
Me thinks it is time for Sydney to use her big gun. Just sayin’
When deciding on a course of action you never want the results of your solution to be worse than the problem you are trying to correct. ‘Big Guns’ + Crowded Room = Collateral Damage. Sydney has yet to unlock ‘sniper mode’ on her PPO.
Sydney to the Council afterwards:
“Well, I think we got all of them. You can probably rebuild that wall. But on the plus side, think of all the fresh air and sunlight that hole lets in (glances over and Ingsol). Oh, right. Never mind.”
I think you meant *Glances over where the dust pile that WAS Ingsol is*… :P
Unless, of course, you’re trying to kill two birds with one stone (metaphorically speaking, of course – the wanton destruction of songbirds is not Donkey Approved™).
I think thats her lighthook just behind them in that last scene.
Thought it was her bubble
Bad enough when the murder mannequin was merely trying to kill her, but to add blatant sexual harassment as well? Have you left no sense of decency, Mr. Murder Mannequin at long last? Have you no sense of decency?
Poor Kat. She enters the scene in a supercool way, and now she is defeated in such a treacherous way and begging for help. What an anticlimax. :(
In my opinion, Gregor is fighting the third m-Anakin. It doesn´t have any sense to me, for him to do any other thing but fighting while in his were-wolf form.
And his daughter sits there being useless.
She’s biding her time, and Gregor is taking off for the hills
it’s possible his Daughter is sighing because she’s going to have to get involved (and might turn out to be a bigger badass than her dad)
Considering he’s legging it the other way…
Totally agree. Looks like to me that she doesn´t want to fight, and she is going to have to do it to save our beloved were-hare.
I would like Clover to be a beast. ;)
The species of the created is not always consistent with the creator. She could be delaying her transformation because she considers her were-form an embarrassing animal. She could turn out to be anything from a were-aardvark to a were-zebra. If the hair style is any indication she might be a were-skunk.
If she were to be a were-skunk, she shouldn´t feel embarrased. The design could be pretty awesome and the “fighting” style even more awesome. ^^
So, the bad guy(s) were able to account for everyone in the Council. So, Inside job? Guess the only one left they haven’t accounted for is Sydney.
Bad boys, bad boys, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when Halo comes for you?
Doesn’t have to be an inside job: you know it’s a Council of monsters and magicians and aliens, so you load up your killabots with the usual weapons that work against them
True. However, the fact we seem to have recognized the 2 in the middle as Beings at the meeting, Sitting with Grumpy Vamp Guy, it does seem it could be an inside job. Mind you, there is still 3 Vamps at their banner when the Mannekillers blasted their way in, so either they knew they were coming & their seats were out of that 1st shot’s BOOM area/could duck fast enough, or they didn’t know it was coming…
No, just because they are on “The List” doesn’t mean they are responsible for this attack
True. like I said, they seem to still be in their spot when the attack started, so they either knew they were in a safe spot from the Mannikill’s 1st shot at the table (disarmed by Max), or they DIDN’T know it was coming…
…Or forgot to duck fast enough…
wait, why are we talking about ducks now?
Because geese scare Yorp
Really? He should try meeting the younger ones to get over that.
Everybody likes a little goose, right? ☺
Just noticed something Dave. Did Max pimp slap all the mannikillers? The one with the handprint on it’s face was the one that exploded, but now we have another one for the last two pages. Just wanted to check.
That handprint is on all of them, not just the one Maxima pimp-slapped (because the pimp-slap is not what caused the mark in the first place). I think just about everyone here has already cottoned on to the idea that it’s the magical link between them and their maker that allows them to animate (or perhaps are being remote-controlled).
If there were a were-scourer on the council, this fight would be rather easy for them.
Sadly, whilst sponges are animals, they are not mammals. Which rules them out of contention for being weres in the Grrlverse.
I was most reluctant to, but yea, the bloody face does appear to be linked to the animation and/or controlling magic. Given that it was not just the one with it. Although I will throw the possibility of it having symbolic significance, as nobody has mentioned that one yet. Or, possibly, it is a ruse to misdirect techniques to counter them.
One thing that was a red herring though, was Maxima’s slap.
yorp… symbolic significance? somebody is trying to cast themselves as a bloody Saruman?
If it was ever a red herring, it wasn’t one for long for anyone with the ability to see that the one attacking (trying, her shield was up) Halo had the bloody-palm mark shown under his SWAT helmet. Thus precluding it being administered by Maxima. If it had been administered by Maxima, the helmet would either have been off or would have been shown with a similar palm mark. Those things might be transparent but they are not flexible enough to allow a slap to hit the wearer’s face and then rebound back to their usual shape…
Not with normal strength, no. But at bullet speed and using super strength I am sure they deform. Returning to the normal shape afterwards is simply a property of plastic, so that aspect did not bother me overly. However I did get the interpretation wrong, regardless.
There were various clues, like that, but I just enjoyed the concept of ‘Maxima hitting them so hard that it could make a dummy bleed’, so I purposely chose to ignore, or counter, all logical arguments, which contradicted my interpretation.
:-D
Am I the only who sees the mark on the “face” and thinks: “WE KNOW”?
For reference: https://i.imgur.com/gQ5cr.jpg
also: relevant!
Is this in reference to my activities last summer?
I think that it would not be a hand, but rather a tarred and feathered tux-wearing chicken, with a limp, if it was meant to do that.
*Phew* I mean, it’s not like I have something to hide.
Dude, stick with chicken ballroom dancing. That is just embarrassing, rather than having prison time.
I have to admit that I have absolutely no idea what that is about. Never seen that image nor can I remember that phrase meaning anything special.
So where does that come from?
It’s the assassins guild from the Elder Scroll series, big one now is Skyrim, but they were in Oblivion too, can’t say for the others before that.
The Dark Brotherhood to be precise.
The black hand is their symbol, which symbolise their ruling body of 5 members. 4 Speakers (the index fingers) and 1 Listener (the thumb). Less known is that each finger also has a nail, which is the Silencer rank.
A little extra fact there.
Another interesting fact is that the writers of Elder Scrolls took a lot of inspiration to the Dark Brotherhood from a serbic assassin order/secret military order which has actually existed named of course, The Black Hand.
Hands seem to be popular in the naming of “shady” orders/guilds etc.
Now is time for Halo to act! …but Halo is being distracted so. :o nothing will happen on that side. Unless she decides to go tentacle rape on all of them at the same time! Hah.
She can rip the arm off, but can’t use her furry hand to wipe at the hand print…
Probably no one has realized that’s what they need to do yet.
Or the villain is a bit of a douchebag and left the obvious handprint to distract and delay the heroes.
Not that I’ve ever done such a thing to my players in any of my games.
::coughs and tries to look innocent::
“::coughs and tries to look innocent::”
Some of us ain’t buying it. =OP
Is Halo wrasseling them yet?
Sydney has had her tentacle out once, before they re-animated. So it is possible she has been joining in the whack-a-manikin routine. Or, alternatively, she has her head tilted to a careful thinking angle.
The Mannekiller really should watch his arm position and follow through. He really shanked that shot.
A few things I wonder:
1) whether the mannequin that exploded in the tunnels with Maxima is reassembling itself.
2) If so, how long would it take to do so?
3) if the mannequins need an external control source and if Sydney were to encase them in a forcefield, would that shut them down?
4) What would have happened to the mannequin arm if Sydney had encased it in a forcefield?
1) Unlikely. But possible. And Maxima can leave it underneath the rubble she leaves behind.
2) Longer than Maxima.
3) Very likely. It worked with the aggro aura, which is closely related. But not guaranteed as one is (in my opinion) a super power, whereas the other appears to be magical. Halo’s shield does seem to be comprehensive though.
4) If they need an external control source, they might stop moving. However there is the risk that they are actually either fully autonomous or have basic default commands that they follow, if not under control. Such precautions are built into more important devices (such as the Mars rovers).
If that is the case then Sydney would be at extreme risk of dying, not having any means to counter the limbs inside the shield. Poisoned claws are not to be messed with lightly.
*claws crossed for our Japanese readers*
I guess this is tsunami season, and a 3 meter one at that.
Yeah, just read about it recently (internet had been down since 3am local time)
Also just found out that the North Island coast has headed east after last weeks earthquake (not sure about the rest of the island though)
Just what they need – more … what the hell is the plural of tsunami..?
Hmm, based on dictionary.com, tsunamis is acceptable…
::coughs::
Just what they need – more tsunamis.
In Japanese, most plurals are determined contextually, not through modifying the noun, so in Japanese it would just be “tsunami”.
That dictionary… for English, might say”tsunamis” is correct…in English, sure. But it makes me twitch to see it. Keep in mind that English has rarely met a foreign word it didn’t enjoy butchering.
Distinct lack of force bubble in the background..
Looks like Syd’s gonna accidently start building her comic harem with… awere bunny
I wonder if one of her orbs can cure poison? I have to imagine something set up like that, they’d have something that would keep the user healed and fine.
There are many characters around, and it would not be possible to draw all of them, all the time. Dave is wisely focusing on the key ones involved in each part of the battle, and the other combatants just happen to be out of sight. We should not infer anything in particular from not having seen someone on a particular page.
The voices from the gallery being a prime example. Dave is reminding us that there are lots of beings milling around, undecided what to do, at the moment. Without wasting time depicting details that are not necessary, at this time.
As for curing poison, I was wondering how long it would be until someone floated the suggestion of it being a power of the mystery orbs. On this occasion it is actually a reasonable suggestion. Poison is the kind of nasty trick that villains get up to, and it would be nice for Halo to be able to counter that.
If it is the case though I doubt that she will (at the present time) also be able to heal general injuries. That removes too much sense of peril from the ongoing story. We know that Sydney survives, as she is our narrator, for this flashback. Thus any danger anybody was put in, would fail to make readers feel worried, unless it was an instantly fatal risk. Because they would know that Halo can just make it better, in a moment.
It could of course be an upgrade option on her skill tree. But may require unlocking ‘cure disease’, ‘neutralise radiation’ or some such, to prevent her gaining it too soon (i.e. whilst still in the flash-back). Plus she has had so many injuries, already, that if she could heal wounds, she would have done that ages ago. Poison though, that is new.
Oh I completely agree its not in the logistics to draw everything.
but Syd is involved in the current fight, was next to it, was commenting on it. So I don’t’ think Dave would have that bit glossed over, more so as she is the one most likely to be involved in an event. She’s a different association to the onscreen action as the peanut gallery. They’re unlikiely to be involved in the next panel event. Sydney, and Dabbler are the main liklihoods to be involved. If it wasn’t going to be syd she’d likely still be in the background. Since she’s not I assume she’s moving into position to pull bunny girl into her shield, while also renewing her air supply.
I assume her orbs likely havea set of choices for the first power. The other orbs were probably chosen as part of her personality and as her immediate thought upon powers. They’re standard powers and very much in her personality type. I assume the “body” orb probably has healing factor, restoration factor, and buffing factor. The orbs seem to be open ended. She hasn’t had a situation where any of those three truly was somethings he wanted to bring up, so I don’t think she’s made her initial choice in those subjects.
her last powerup sorta fits this this idea. Assuming each orb doesn’t level up individually (I assume not as she uses certain ones FAR more often. And assuming that seeing through Dabbler’s illusion when she was hired didn’t give her super exp bonus to just the vision thing). Then likely, because she was still thinking about all the things she’s seen that day, it auto opened to the senses orb. (looking at her personality, and her later actions (such as hoping she’d randomly reveal an alien ship) she wanted to “see” more of the new world and that was what was on her mind the whole day. Much less the whole “I don’t know why they’re spinning oh god what does it mean” effect (as they spun for a while before it appeared.. so either just wind up, or it was waiting for a mental input) but looking at the last map, it had several base choices. So it isn’t unreasonable to think that the other orbs haven’t been perk set yet.
So I think if she impulsively wants to cure Usagifwafwah (Fluffy bunny) it might finally accept that as a choice. Meaning she’ll have to work to unlock other heal effects. While she has had injurieis already, none of them were seriously critical, and early on she was introduced to the Healer doctor person, so she never truly felt like she “wanted” the healing ability. Instead she took every injury completely in stride and even had fun with it (arrr pirate patch).
The orbs already really work on her mental state already, and she’s never truly felt or wanted several specific things.
Okay, is it just me, or is everyone forgetting Sydney can use TWO orbs? The solution is simple: trap mannekiller in shield, PPO it to component atoms. So far as we aware, the shield will contain any splash damage, and hasn’t it been established that Sydney is not subject to the effects of the PPO? She can’t blow her own foot off…and you just *know* Sydney has tried to target herself at least once.
And why is Kat stressed about poison? While the Grrlverse therianthropes haven’t been fully detailed, traditionally, Weres are immune to poison due to their regeneration and healing. Takes silver or fire to inflict real damage. Now, if it were silver nitrate or such, I could accept it…mannekillers geared for Weres…but generic poison? Kat kinda leaps to that conclusion…no pun intended.
And good God, Maxima…! You can BLOW UP A TANK! It takes you *this* long to clear some friggen rubble? Even without nuking it, your speed and strength should make a rubble-choked hallway as difficult as a stroll down a Charleston SC street at noon in the middle of summer. “Gosh, the air sure is thick today!”
I think I’ve figured out Maxima’s origin. Her *real* name is Daphne Blake. Her parents took her on a trip to help her get over a failed relationship with Fred…he just couldn’t resist Velma’s sweater-puppies. When Shaggy and Scooby saw her new look, they freaked, assuming it was a bad trip.
C’mon, it explains it *all*! The purple, the feminism, the damsel-in-distress penchant, the team of `misfits’, her lack of credible leadership abilities…
Oh, yeah…look within. You know it’s totally plausible.
Sydney has already demonstrated that she needs to be inside the shield, to do tricks like that. Otherwise, when she was fighting Vehemence she would have raised it around him.
The second thing that fight showed is that Sydney does not know how to activate her other powers inside the shield. This is certainly the case for her tentacle, as it appears on the outside. It is by far the safest to assume that the same is true for her PPO too. Sydney certainly does not know, herself, as she has been too scared to use that orb, since burning down the forest.
Being trapped inside the shield, with the manikins would be deadly for her. And if it does turn out that she can use the PPO inside it, then bits of molten manikin would pose a severe threat to her life. As would any noxious fumes given off by burning such substances.
Trust me, I live in a community of people who use wood burning fires, and even small plastic wrappers give off nasty chemicals. Folks who are stupid enough to routinely burn plastic waste, in their homes, will be killing off brain cells and risking lung cancer. Big plastic fires cause all sorts of nasty effects, like organ failure, suffocation and death.
Kat is bothered about the poison because it is affecting her. Her martial arts style is highly dependant on kicking, and she is having difficulty even standing up, let alone defending herself. Whilst standing in front of an opponent who is armed with specific anti-lycanthrope weapons. Kat saw the silver buckshot herself, and the poison clearly does affect Lycanthropes.
Maxima’s problem is not her strength but her wisdom. She is not a structural engineer. Nor does she have x-ray vision. Use her power incautiously and she could destroy a load bearing member and collapse the building.
Daphne, Daphne ish zat you? Can I haz Scooby snack?
Oh yea! The classic “she only has to catch the bad guy/killing machine/poison/whatever deadly thing just cropped up inside her force field”. It seems this topic has been cropping up a lot lately. Atlantis may still rise from the sea!
Probably the main reason why Sydney got by with that tactic with Vehemence is because he didn’t go into the fighting wanting to kill anybody…He just wanted a good brawl. Killing people means that they can’t continue to contribute to the violence that feeds him the power. It was only Max that posed a serious risk to Vehemence, so yeah he did try to kill her. She was posing a deadly threat to V that would also end the violence.
Also, every time that Sydney & Vehemence spoke to each other, it was reasonably polite & civil. Indeed, even when Sydney talked to him before he joined the fight, he expressed the thought that Sydney was a “nice kid. hope she doesn’t get killed tonight.”
:)
Even trapped with Vehemence in her shield, Sydney was not posing a direct threat to Vehemence…Indeed, she struggled against his Aggro Aura because she already knew that violence feeds him. Also, V was somewhat taken aback when Sydney said “Please don’t kill me.” All in all, Sydney using her shield to trap herself with Vehemence was probably the safest option she had!
That is definitely not the case here in the Council Chambers now…
“Begins loading the orbital bombardment cannons “
Re: Maxima…sorry, Yorp, she might collapse a load bearing member in a hallway that’s *already* collapsed? “We can’t risk digging those miners in the collapsed mineshaft out! We might hit one of the supports…that…um…aren’t really supporting…anything…right now…”
As for Sydney, I wasn’t aware it was a limitation of her forcefield that caused the Hentai-Orb to manifest outside. I always assumed it do so because that’s where the job she wanted it to do was. I may have missed that. The remainder of your counterpoint seems a little flaccid, though…the orbs react (or so it appears) at the speed of Sydney’s thought. Pretty sure she could pop it up, blast the mannekiller, drop it, bring it up around her before any flaming debris or noxious gas got to her. I don’t *think* there’s a cool-down period, although it may have been mentioned by DaveB somewhere and I missed it.
Basically, these are possibilities we toss out there because we don’t have definitive proof they wouldn’t work. Being armchair quarterbacks, in essence. There may very well be valid reasons, which we simply don’t know about. For example, Sydney’s orbs *have* to work inside and through the forcefield, because she can fly with it up. If she can fly inside the forcefield, why can’t she use the PPO? How much of the forcefield is subconscious/autonomous? If she is wandering around a battlefield secure in her forcefield, and steps on a hidden landmine within the field, would she get blown up or would the orb automatically resize to protect her?
We don’t *know* what the limits or restrictions are, so these theories are still valid until disproven. It may be something as simple as: Sydney just hasn’t thought of it, since she’s a new superhero and has to be trained to act in these sort of situations.
And Daphne/Maxima can’t release any Scooby Snax till you dig her out, Yorp. Rescue her and she’ll reward you…probably. Just don’t mention it was a rescue…or that Hiro probably could have gotten out himself in half the time…and without his shirt, too.
Your suggested tactic that Sydney use the shield to trap the auomaton & blast it, drop her shield to cover only herself against the exploding shrapnel wouldn’t work quite as well as you’re thinking. The orbs respond to her thoughts, but she can only activate them with the speed of your own physical reflexes. Even if Sydney could use the PPO inside of her own shield (and all indications so far make that a pretty big IF), then Sydney would only have microseconds to turn off her shield & turn it back on…The the exploding fragments move pretty darn fast.
Indeed, Sydney didn’t even have fast enough reflexes to switch from PPO to Shield in time to avoid getting pelted with sand when she shot that tank during the press conference…And she also had more distance & time to try that in between her and the explosion then. In the Council Chambers here, Sydney would probably only have a bit more than arm-reach distance to try working her shield orb that quickly.
Not only that, she would leave everyone else in the chamber vulnerable to the flying mystical debris
How are you proposing that Maxima should navigate? She is buried under tons of rubble and dirt, with no visibility. Her GPS is no use underground. And the display is covered in any event. Initially she would not even be able to tell which way is up (we know this from the reports of avalanche survivors and the like).
Maxima needs to carefully clear enough room around herself so that she can turn on some illumination and, in the pocket she makes, observe bits falling, and deduce which way is down. Beyond that she has to guess which direction to mine in. If she goes straight up we know she will hit the park. She does not though. As far as she could estimate, she may still be underneath occupied buildings.
But let us say she does that, she is then emerging in a very noticable fashion (blasting a hole with her attack, or pushing a mountain of rubble to one side). This might kill innocent civilians in the area, either way. Plus it would be giving away the secret location of the Council’s base. Either of which is not a good idea.
And Maxima may not know another route into the building. They do not trust her yet, so it would not be in their interests to detail all such information. So, having gotten to the surface, she would not be able to find her way back to the meeting. Maxima would need to contact the Council, via their usual covert channels, and request the information for where to reenter. Which would take time.
Alternatively Maxima can try to retrace her route, down the collapsed tunnel. A very very difficult proposition, as he has zero means of navigating through earth. She would have to forensically explore, to find bits of wall or floor, and try and trace her way along.
Falling dust and other debris meaning that even if she has an air pocket, she will be blind most of the time. So, even if she has a compass, that would be painstakingly slow to use. Having to wait until the dust cleared in the air enough, each time she wanted to check her direction.
And this is where my earlier point comes into play. Maxima is now heading towards the main building. Whilst she is hoping to follow the path of the collapsed tunnel, there is no guarantee that the jumbled up rubble will be easy enough to interpret. So she could stray off course, or go too high, or hit a nearby underground train tunnel, or get turned around and dig into the river.
Or, if she is rushing things too much, and travelling faster than she estimates, she could punch through a load bearing member of the building and cause it to collapse.
These are soluble problems, but super strength does not mean that you can ignore the fragile world around you. You have to tunnel carefully, whatever route you take, to avoid collateral damage. And, in the middle of New York city, that could easily involve killing people. Unless you go at a measured pace and examine each section carefully, as you dig through it.
Excellent points, Yorp, as always, save you overlook certain details. Max’s *comm* works relatively fine, which would not happen with `current’ tech; given that, it’s not such a stretch that ARC-Swat’s GPS also performs far better than our current tech. I’m pretty sure they have tracking capabilities on their units, which wouldn’t be much use if a hundred feet (or so) of earth or stone could block it. Supervillains tend to dig vast underground bases in volcanos and such; it’s kind of their `thing’. And with Dabbler on the team, I doubt their personal field gear is `out of the box’ and un-modded.
Besides, that, Maxima can glow, so darkness isn’t a problem. With her speed and strength, she should have zero problem tunneling in the `general’ direction of her team-mates and refining her course as she goes. As long as it’s rubble she’s moving, no chance of her accidentally breaking a somehow-irreplaceable load-bearing member since if it were bearing an important load, there wouldn’t be rubble.
See, I kinda think you overlook a pertinent point. Imagine the largest backhoe/bulldozer in the world. You know how much one of those can shift? Now imagine a fleet of them, and condense them down into one almost human-sized female form.
That’s *Maxima*. With a human brain and manual dexterity out the wazoo. She should be able to run through the rubble, digging a Maxima-sized hole to move into (even if she only as much as a few millimeters of extra space around her knee or between her thighs…she’s not encased in liquid that fills every available space equally in order). She should be able to meander through it as easily as you or I can wander to the refrigerator when we’re nibbly.
Also, based on the view from the ground…the raccoon’s eye view, as it were…the explosion collapsed maybe twenty feet of tunnel…
And as a flyer, Max has to have excellent spatial coordination. She may not know to the inch where she is, but she knows *generally* how far down the tunnel she is, roughly how long the tunnel is, that it runs under the park.
Taken all together, I don’t see the collapsed tunnel being more than a minor inconvenience to Maxima. Now, *Daphne*, on the other hand…she may have be dug out at a later date.
Since when can Maxi glow? o_O
True. As you point out though Halo is not that far away. Plus, even with current technology, we can allow mobile phone signals to be picked up in tunnels, such as on underground railways. This is the headquarters of a shadow world-government. It is not unreasonable to suppose they will have implemented such technology.
If the signal only has to get through twenty foot of earth, as you claim, then that is not much of a stretch for a point of plot convenience. I.e. Archon could well be using normal technology. Albeit somewhat customised, such as with their HUD glasses and Sydney’s pip-boy. Whereas GPS signals are transmitted by satellite. Even a heavy canopy can block their signal (as testified by my brother, who did not rely on them in jungle navigation).
Dabbler does not share her technology. Upgrading human devices would be doing that, and we have no indication that she does such. However I did allow that Maxima, as a military officer, would be sensible enough to have a compass, so it is a moot point. Hers could be built into a fancy pip-boy like handheld device, as part of a sophisticated navigation system, as you say.
I never said it was. The problem is dust in the air. Which is still a problem, regardless of her light-source. Max can’t read either her compass or her pip-boy, until it has settled. Every time she digs, there will be more kicked up into the air.
Humans cannot travel in a straight line, without a point of visual reference.* Even if Maxima determines “Halo is thataway” and starts tunneling, her tunnel will spiral around. She has to stop, let the dust settle, and recheck her bearings, periodically.
The faster that Maxima travels, the quicker she will get off course and the more likely she is to damage something critical (e.g. gas mains).
How can she tell, through all the dust? Bear in mind she is not creating a nice big tunnel behind her, as she moves. Maxima will have, at best, a tiny air pocket. So she is moving rubble from in front to behind her. Doing it at speed will kick up a hell of a lot of dust and other particulate matter.
Here is another problem. Maxima is not superman. She does not have all her powers at full capability, all the time. Currently she is being crushed to death by a cave-in. So she has to dedicate some capacity to her defense, to avoid that. Then splitting the remainder between speed and strength means she is far short of the upper ability levels, that she can otherwise achieve. Still very capable of course, but worth bearing in mind.
I can debunk this by pointing out the training that helicopter pilots (operating to oil rigs) need to have training to survive a crash in water. They instantly loose all points of reference and become totally disoriented, inside their own helicopter. Knowing the layout of the tunnel does not give Maxima any special advantage in underground navigation. She lacks any points of reference.
Armies come to a halt in a sandstorm, for a reason. They can’t see their compass. They can’t see any landmarks. Moving just creates a danger. Moving at high speed makes it even more dangerous. They have to wait until the sand settles.
* As confirmed by Myth Busters.
One thing want to add about Dabbles: she is fine with helping the hyu-mons advance their own technology (making helpful suggestions and nudging suggestively when appropriate), she just won’t let her technology out of her hands (not because of “The Prime Directive” though)
Good points, Yorp, but even at half-powered up, or even her baseline without amping any of her powers, Maxima shouldn’t have difficulty with a rubble-filled hallway. If she were buried in sand or water, a bit more credence to the argument, but an explosion isn’t going to turn the hallway to dust that fills every crack and crevasse, so that she’s unable to tell what’s rubble and what’s not.
How can she tell through all the dust what’s rubble and what isn’t? Close your eyes and feel around; can you tell what’s your desk or what’s the wall or the table leg? When you wake up, can you tell the difference between the sheets and the bed? She has a brain and tactile information that does *not* rely on her eyes. Never mind the probability her eyes have also been `augmented’ beyond the human norm…her ability to fly at ludicrous speed without being blinded supports that assumption.
Maxima is *super*human. Most of the difficulties a standard human would encounter simply aren’t going to apply to her. You or I would be crushed beneath the rubble, sure. Even if we survived, we’d be disoriented, blind, choking…but Maxima shouldn’t be suffering any of those effects, since we already *know* she’s conscious, breathing, and aware enough to call Sydney with an update…and her tech works well enough for that.
We *don’t* know the Council has any sort of GPS-foiling measures in place…we *do* know there’s no comm-foiling and thus Occam’s Razor suggests there is no tech-foiling going on. I’m virtually certain they mentioned tracking modules as standard ARC-Swat gear, which would likely not rely on satellite support, exactly because of the limitations you mention regarding GPS.
In short, your arguments are extremely on point as regards a normal person. Maxima? Not nearly so applicable. I mean, I’m pretty sure Myth-busters would (or has) do a segment showing how superhero abilities simply wouldn’t work. How can Max or Halo *fly*? What powers their abilities? Humans can’t harness electromagnetic energy and convert it to propulsion or gravitic control or lift sixteen tons with a lighthook or…
Superhumans *can* do those sort of things…and if they can fly, they can probably navigate a straight line with their eyes closed. Upside down. And backwards. In the snow. Uphill. Both ways.
Given her powers, Max should have no trouble or delay. May as well say, “Well, humans would take the opportunity when out of the boss’ view to nip over to Starbuck’s for a latte!” (Yes, there have been studies about productivity and goofing off when the boss isn’t around) as say “Humans would be disoriented by the dark and dust, and armies stop in a sandstorm.”
Just don’t apply to Max.
Oh, man, I would laugh my ass off if Max shows up after everything is settled and hands Sydney a Mocha Grande. “Took a detour. Thought you might need this.”
Heh, it would be funny if she did bring a coffee. Although she would get stick from the general readership, General Faulk, the General Staff, and likely her Commander in Chief, if she was goofing off, in the middle of a battle, where important allies lives were at risk. More Sydney or Dabbler’s kind of style, but it would give me a laugh, despite that.
Most of your arguments are fair. However you try to brush away the dust issue and I do not buy it. Dust does fill the air, when you are in a cave-in-situation. Just think of all the people in the vicinity of the Twin Towers for a poignant reminder. But it is true of anyone dug out from rubble too, such as in earthquakes. They are coated in dust, both from the initial collapse and the rescue work.
Further, if you have a tunneling machine (which is what Maxima would become) you also get debris and dust filling the air. Operators have to wear protective gear, as a result. What you say about Maxima’s eyes is right on one paw, but wrong on another. Her personal force field will prevent the debris from harming her eye. So she does have the equivalent of perfect protective goggles. Which is how she can fly so fast without difficulty.
Where you are wrong though is to assume that she has special eye-sight. She does not. Just look at her cast list details, where each of her powers is specified. X-ray vision, augmented sight or any super senses are not listed. We can take it that she does have perfect normal human vision mind (as both an air force officer and a natural born super). But that does not let you see through dust.
And you cannot pretend that the dust Maxima is throwing up, by clearing rubble from in front of her air pocket, will somehow decide to go off to the corners of the corridor. It is right in the tiny enclosed space where she is because of all the stuff that fell on her. She does not have a big empty corridor around her anymore.
Plus remember that she has to put the rubble somewhere. as Its volume does not go down. So what she takes from in front fills up the space behind. And trails dust and debris as she excavates and moves it. Maxima’s air pocket will not get bigger, until she breaks free.
Yes supers can do extraordinary things. But Dave is a good writer who does not grant his heroes powers they do not have. He is right to say that it would take Maxima time to get out, when in a city environment. If she had been buried out in the desert, or on an uninhabited mountain side, yes, she could escape a lot easier.
We can identify our sheets, because we know that is what we wrapped around ourselves before going to sleep. How do you tell, by touch, what something flat and hard is? Is it part of the collapsed ceiling, or a support pillar? You can’t.
You have to clear away the rubble around it, to expose enough to make that call. But those bits themselves might be important infrastructure too. Vision is humans’ primary sense for a reason. Touch can only tell you so much.
Maxima has to wait for dust to clear, to navigate, no matter how much you argue against that.
But her efforts are superhuman. It takes rescue teams of dozens or hundreds of people, with near unlimited resources at their disposal, days or weeks to dig down to children trapped down wells or miners in tunnels. One of the big problems they face is that they have to moderate their actions (such as not using explosives) so that the do not kill the people they are trying to save.
Maxima is doing the same as them, but will not take days or weeks. She will get here before the fight ends. But not just yet, as she does have both limitations on her powers* and a need to avoid killing innocent bystanders.
* Super Man would have no problems as his powers are permanently maxed out and he has the all-important x-ray vision, so vital to underground path-finding. Super Hiro would not fare any better than Maxima, as he also lacks x-ray vision.
I would also like to point out that she fires high energy plasma, and the back blast could be rough at point blank range…
Well.. she’d have to be in the shield.. with the maniquin…. And if she ppo’d in there she’d also burn up (it ignites the air and ibet her shield would bounce it to an extent) her molestorb could wrap around all of them and disable.
Kat is a new one.. and you never know what poison type it is.. it could be a parlystic.. but it also could have just injected a neurotoxin into her spinal cord.. melting her spine.. There is no reason not to be stressed about it. Not to mention not being able to move properly and a killer golem about to beat her face in..
She isn’t really leaping to any conclusion.. considering her legs buckled under her though? So the poison is clearly effective.
as for Max.. She could literally burst out of the ground or blow it all away. But it would collapse the park or the bulding utterly revealing much to the world, more than already caused by the bomb. And may cause a collapse in the building. She doesn’t know how extensive the damage is. And the danger of her breaking the building-and the monument, is far more a concern than the dolls when Dabbler and the council is stil there and she has no reason to believe the others will explode without somoen causing it (flawed assumption though).
So.. a max of 10 seconds (more reasonable to assume 6 considering bunny combat speed) isn’t terribly long for Max’s tunneling.
Good answers all; as said above, we’re throwing out possibilities as we wait impatiently for the next page.
Except for Daphne/Max…she has enough time/attention to contact Sydney when one would think in a combat crisis situation against creatures she knows have unknown capabilities (but can assume are loaded for supernatural bear, given what’s been displayed already) she’d be hella intent on getting back into the fight. The rubble *shouldn’t* pose much of an obstacle and since it’s already collapsed, a Max-sized transit corridor isn’t going to pose much of a further risk.
And oddly, I don’t *want* Sydney to save the day. I want to see the *other* members strut their competent stuff.
But we shall see…just not soon enough for my impatience!
Also. Its DaveB’s story! Let the guy write it how he wants. Basically, Maxima could just obliterate the threat in an instant. So he wrote a situation where she would be ‘removed for a while’ … so that we can see some bunny/Halo action. So all in all. Lets just wait and see what he has in store for us! :D
look within. and now I’m trying desperately NOT to imagine Darth Vader with curves, a purple sweater, red hair…
Now if she’d been a Gun Bunny that wouldn’t have happened.
Hmm, does Stabby McStabbalot have a cut in their forehead? You can see it in all three panels you can see their head so it can’t be just an art error
Sorry, but the closest thing I’m seeing to something like that (even when I magnify it as much as I can using my browser) is space one would expect between the second and third segments of each finger.
No, it definitely looks like a stab wound, just to the inside of the right eye; just below the index finger of the handprint. I noticed it, too, and initially thought it was a wound inflicted by Dabbler or Armor/Guy/Thing with one of their swords, but apparently they only hit its arm, so that can’t be it.
I’m seeing what Guesticus and Grimjac are seeing as well, but I can’t decide if that’s a “wound” or DaveB trying to represent the “split forehead” some mannequins have (like a chin cleft, but just above the nose and between where eyebrows would be, to prevent confusion from real people – it was a thing in the late 80’s/early 90’s in my neck of the world).
It’s too ‘visible’ in all three panels, and on an angle, to be a brow-cleft (people have them as well)
Considering that the “wound” is inside the bloody handprint, I’d say that it’s part of the control spell. Stab through the hand and into the mannequin forming a connection that is sealed with the blood … seems plausible. It would mean more than one controller, though, since that sort of ritual would link each participant to a single dummy.
Okay, now I think I see what you’re talking about, except what I’m seeing is a black mark/slit between his eyes just above his nose (rather than on his forehead or inside his right eye). I think Weatherheight‘s suggestion can be ruled out since evil creepy mannequins and(?*) vaccusuck both have a similar mark/slash, but inside the left eye, and thus I lean more towards Zengar‘s explanation.
*I’m not quite sure whether they are the same mannequin or different ones, but am more inclined to the latter view. “ECM” seems to have a chubbier** face, the thumbprint seems a lot lower, and the fingers look to be a lot more drippier.
** Speaking of which, if I right about there being a difference in facial width, that makes me wonder whether part of the hand imprinter’s personal traits are transferred to the mannequin body, and the mannequins aren’t just being controlled, but contain that person’s essence/soul.
whoops, forgot to close the bold tag after :Zengar”.
I agree that it is likely linked to the animation magic ritual. It is worth noting that making a blood pact or bond does usually involve cutting the palms of both individuals, so their blood mixes. As manikins do not have blood, this would not work. However cutting a hole, into them, and letting the caster’s (or controller’s or possessor’s) own blood drip into it, could well substitute, for this ritual.
The corresponding wound in the human hand need not necessarily be right the way through the hand, nor even match the wound on the manikin’s face. If you think of film scenes, of making a ‘blood brother’, each will cut their hands separately, showing their own intent, then they symbolically join their hands together, as a separate act. Rituals are often inspired by other similar sources, so that kind of ceremony could have been drawn upon.
Here, the manikin would not be animate, so the wound would not be self-inflicted. Giving some insight into the creator’s psyche, given that, on one they chose to punch the hole through eye. Despite the fact that other locations clearly work too. Not that it would make a difference to dummies, but normal people would avoid doing that, none-the-less.
The cut isn’t through the eye though, it’s between the eyes
On the current page, yes. But not in this page (final panel). The cut goes right through the eye. Hence why I say that we have evidence of the manikins being animate regardless of whether the cut is through the eye or elsewhere. Meaning whoever was holding the knife decided “this time I am stabbing it through the eye”.
Meaning they are likely to be sociopathic (or something of the ilk).* As the planner of the attack clearly is too, it could be one and the same person. Or they have managed to recruit like-minded fellows.
* Most people would instinctively avoid the eye, especially if they knew the figure would become animate. Whereas a sociopath would consider that to be the most effective place to strike, on a face. And would not project any feelings onto the manikin, so would not empathise about ‘what if I was stabbed in the eye’.
Okay, so that’s one through the eye, and one not through the eye (hadn’t noticed the eye-cut)
It’s one thing to slice your palm to produce the blood for the pact, entirely another to stab yourself through the hand, possibly hitting vital nerves and rendering you hand permanently useless
1) However, if there is a soul transference, it’s not like the person would be needing those nerves anyway.
2) Even without that, the stabbee either might not have had a choice in the matter, might have thought such a sacrifice was worth the damage, or might be relying on some sort of healing.
“…it was a thing in the late 80’s/early 90’s…”
Yeah it was a thing back then. But if the parking sticker in the windshield of Sydney’s car is any indicator (https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/60), then the current part of the story arc is only “several months” before May 2011 (or Nov 2005, depending on how you read that printed date). Your comment there is at least a decade (or two) out of date to the comic’s timeline..
Huh. This was meant to be a reply to Weatherheight’s comment just above, not the start of a whole new comment thread. Pffft.
Depends on how old the SWATaton’s are, and if they were second-hand when re-purposed into killabots
Now that you mention it, marketing & advertisers are pretty fond of re-hashing everything under the idea of “nostalgia.” And they’re pretty consistent with allowing two decades pass by before they market something as being “nostalgic.”
Is it smiling?
The grin in that last panel looks…*willful*. I’m starting to wonder if these are really mindless mannequins. Maybe they’re being controlled remotely? Maybe they’re sentient beings and that’s just how they look? Maybe it’s a glamour? *shrug*
Or maybe that’s how all mannequins look, have you really looked at one when it doesn’t think anyone is looking?
The bloody hand print on the head has me wondering if these murderkins are being “remotely” operated.
Yup, that is an ongoing theory. Look around for the puppeteer. Do we know anyone present who practices such arts? Clearly it could not be Dabbler mind, as she has her hands otherwise engaged, in plain sight.
on a re-read.. i noticed.. the arm floats back to it…..
So….
Does that mean they can go “bit style” and fly around on their own in small parts attacking from all angles and such?
Don’t believe so, just able to reattach now that that ability has been activated
Yeah, it’s probably more akin to magnetism than to flight.
“Even just the first grenade would have sewn enormous chaos”
You’d need needle and thread for that. Maybe you mean “sown”, as in “sowing the seeds of chaos”? :)
Fate is a tapestry, and the grenade would have sewn threads of chaos into it.
Not the bunnehhhhhHHHHHH! *flail*
*sorts out a black forelegband, just in case*
Hrm… thats gotta be pretty potent poison, generally the healing factor/regeneration in most lores that were tend to have generally deal with venoms and poisons before it can cause a lot of problems for the said were.
And no, shes not a lycan. Lycan means wolf. Shes a therianthrope.
“Occasionally misused to refer to a person suffering from the mythical affliction of lycanthropy; the usage is considered incorrect as “Lycan” only means “wolf”, whereas “werewolf” means “man-wolf”, the monster not the animal.”
“Therianthropy is the mythological ability of human beings to metamorphose into other animals by means of shapeshifting. It is possible that cave drawings found at Les Trois Frères, in France, depict ancient beliefs in the concept. The most well known form of therianthropy is found in stories concerning werewolves.”
The little note at the bottom of the comic says ‘wolfsbanicide’, which, for all we know, in this universe affects all weres, not just werewolves. It could be some kind of crystallized wolfsbane, which is poison to weres and is only called wolfsbane because of the cultural assumption that weres are always werewolves. Less immediately fatal or whatever than silver (also effectively poison to weres), but still poison. The only things their healing abilities have no effect on.
Good point. I didn’t see that note when I wrote the above, I was mostly pointing out that it would need to be something fairly potent to affect a therianthrope. Wolfsbane, the actual plant in real life, is most commonly Aconitum which the smell of alone sickens wolves. Hence why they avoid it and it was termed “wolfsbane”. But it is highly poisonous to even normal people.
Though in popular literature, wolfsbane isn’t always damaging and poisonous to therianthropes. In fact it is used to keep their wild side in check in some works, notably Harry Potter and Ginger Snaps , and in others wolfsbane turns people into werewolves (Wolfblood series, 1941 movie The Wolf Man).
Still thats other worlds and not the world of Grrl power. What I am mostly saying is that it has to be a fairly potent poison to do that to a were. And the poisons derived from wolfsbane are fairly potent, so you could be right.
All it has to be, is strong enough to weaken her for a few seconds, just long enough for Manny to finish her off
There are some really nasty neurotoxins out there and while she is likely very tough, it could take time to overcome the effects…
Fair point there are.
There’s also the ‘mystical’ properties of some plants. Like silver being mystically bad for weres and sunlight for vampires and stuff like that, wolfsbane could have the mystical property of ‘weakens weres greatly for a while’ which is essentially poison, just not necessarily a fatal one.
Bunnybane Bunnybane,
Growing in my field of grain
Gives werebunnies wobbliy knees,
And makes them want to sneeze,
Bunnies keep out!
Here is the Bunnybane!
Someone has been reading Questionable Content :)
Presumably so, but not I.
You should, it’s great
That is a good enough recommendation, to give it a go. :-)
mannequin version of hellboy’s golden army
they seem to be just detaching at the joints to prevent permanent damage but it looks like only Max can do that since both Sigil’s and Dabbler’s swords were stopped by a forearm after ignoring the armor.
Ever try to chop a treated, polished wood with a sword? Blade tends to get stuck in the wood while failing to chop all the way through. Axes do a better job of it cause you can get more momentum behind the swing, but swords aren’t as good at the powered momentum category as an axe is.
Hmm… Looks like Halo will have to dismember them all with her Lighthook and hold them apart like that until the rest of them can figure out what to do with them. With 16 tons of force available to it, this shouldn’t be a problem. Unless they all explode when she does that…
As for people going ‘why doesn’t she use the PPO inside the shield’ and stuff, she was about to use it when trapping herself in the shield with Vehemence, but didn’t, so we don’t know if it would have worked anyways, and she probably didn’t know if using it inside the shield would kill her. She doesn’t know for sure if she’s immune to her own PPO damage because she only really used it once before the tank thing, and that set some forest on fire, so she didn’t want to risk anything after. Also, even if she’s immune to the blast, she’s probably NOT immune to the debris flying around from whatever she blew up.
+1
I wonder if a Haloverse version of Cludeo would include “Mr. Mannequin”, “poisoned fingernails”, and “Council room”.
Another point to ponder: could it be that Katrina had a good idea, just had faulty execution? That is, if she had played keep away with the arm, but hadn’t placed it where it could scratch her, the mannequin would still be minus one arm. As evidence for this, Dabbler doesn’t seem to have any problems holding the arm she wants to keep.
Except, we haven’t seen Dabbles nor that arm since they started reforming
Yep, there is training, and there is actual combat. She made a newbie error, especially since they’ve already demonstrated dirty tricks. Kill’em all and THEN sort’em out…
So, anyone want to hazard a guess about who is gonna end up rushing in to save Kat in tomorrows comic? Could it be Clover, when she gets done sighing? Her father Gregor, who is already up and doing something or other behind Clover’s chair? Dabbler and Icon, whom we haven’t seen since they got together? Or Ingsol, who seems to have vanished without a trace since the fight began?
My personal guess is that it’s going to be Sydney, just because we really haven’t gotten to see her take an active role in this fight yet!
Having Katrina’s appeal directed specifically at Clover means it is likely we will see her entering the fray. If not, it will give us extreme insight into Clover’s personality. Assuming that Clover is a member of the Vi’s, as the earlier imagined scene implied, she has a real-world role in law enforcement, so I would expect her to protect Katrina. And a born supernatural might well be even more impressive than Katrina, in action.
But it would be disapointing if we did not see Halo in action soon. She does have the manikin squad boss focussed on her mind, so may have to deal with him, otherwise coming over is just bringing another enemy with her.
Of course the tentacle could deal with more than one manikin, at a time. But if Sydney’s attention is on her fight, then we may see both Halo and Clover entering the fray, against their respective opponents.
Whilst Dabbler is likely to be having issues with her own severed manikin hand. Unless it is:
a) off of the one who exploded (the relevant page does not show if its right forearm is attached or not).
b) not showing signs of exploding itself.
c) no longer animate (as its controlling manikin blew itself up).
Can someone explain to me why Clover is acting this way? For gods sake so she don’t care everyone gets killed or something or is she some sort of anti-social sociopath. Hope the bunny survives, she is funny.
Read her description, and then read a dictionary
She is an emo goth/sulky teenager, who does not see the point in getting all excited about something which is being dealt with already. Now that she can see Katrina is in trouble, and needs help, we may well see her change her behaviour.
Or she may not. Supernatural beings do not necessarily need to have the same moral compass as the rest of us. Whilst Katrina grew up as a human, Clover was born a lycanthrope and raised in a society of ‘monsters’. It may turn out that the Addams Family was inspired by someone with knowledge of what goes on behind the Veil. Just as the Addams Family see death as a valid lifestyle choice, Clover may simply not be bothered about the current situation.
“Will you hurry up and finish this off, I want to get back to listening to my deep soulful music!”
Okay mister puppy, you was already told, Clover is Goth, not emo, you have been put on Yorpie Pie restrictions starting now
She is a were-sloth.
:-D
Well we have had one suggestion of a were-skunk, because of her hair. Which makes sense. Whereas your deduction explains Clover’s personality.
I propose a solution which covers both areas. She is a were-panda!
As we know pandas make great martial artists. Whether they eat bamboo shoots or Ramen.
Since these guys keep putting themselves back together the best tactic may be for Dabbler to fire a mummy missile at each of the manne-killers. They don’t seem to have enough super strength to break free of the bindings, and it is not a magic based attack for them to feed off of.
Also, she is currently armored (and sworded) up with ICON. I can’t believe she hasn’t yet said ‘Time to get medieval on their ass!” Maybe she hasn’t seen enough Earth movies to pick up the reference yet.
There is a discussion about that further up this page :D
so is this a diversion while they hit the other sigils
Nice job angling the mannequin to give it a smirk!
*attempts to applause while giving two thumbs up*
If the page title “Hossenstressor” was intended as a reference to a certain Bugs Bunny cartoon, note that the dish they wanted to cook Bugs into was spelled “Hassenpfeffer”.
Yeah it’s a reference, but stressor kind of rhymes with pfeffer, and Kat is definitely being stressed.
DaveB I am surprised that you are able to write a good page and then immediately comment on in a detached way in the same way any witty reader would. Despite also having ADD myself and what I consider a witty sense of humor I think I could do either of those things but not both in the same series.
There’s a bit of a gap between writing the page and posting it, like 1-2 weeks since I have a bit of a buffer, so that helps.