Grrl Power #395 – The benefits of a classical education
The original (translated) quote from Plutarch’s Tranquility of the Mind, in case you were wondering;
“Such contentedness and change of view in regard to every kind of life does the infusion of reason bring about. When Alexander heard from Anaxarchus of the infinite number of worlds, he wept, and when his friends asked him what was the matter, he replied, ‘Is it not a matter for tears that, when the number of worlds is infinite, I have not conquered one?'”
Even so, there’s some debate as to the origins of the misquote, but for our purposes, Hans gets credit.
You can see why I wanted to combine this page with the prior one, as it’s an extension that same argument. And as C.C. points out, a lot of it is semantic games. Is this all gospel for Deus, or is he playing the sound bite game and being contentious on purpose? If so, then C.C.’s not rising to it, but maybe he’s hoping for viral traction. In any case, you guys had plenty of opinions on the prior page, and while Deus is certainly being reductionist, I do think greed is a prime motivator. Greed and lust certainly. That or I watch entirely too many crime procedurals while I draw, cause seriously, I can’t think of a single case in any of those that wasn’t ultimately motivated by greed, lust, or a combination of the two, unless the bad guy is simply crazy and is killing people because that’s just what he do.
I’m slightly upset that C.C.’s necklace has gone from looking like a piece of hand worked gold or brass to a piece of cheese, or possibly Spongebob Hexpants. I may have to fix that at some point. That or the next time we see her she’ll be wearing a starfish necklace. Actually probably that.
Not combining the pages gave me time to get the vote incentive finished finally, and I did some corrections to the book cover and inked it (original pencils here) and I started coloring the Valentines Day vote incentive, so hopefully that will be ready on time as well. All in all a pretty productive week. Sydney and crew returns on Thursday!
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why does Deus talk like an MRA
It’s just that MRAs also sound like supervillains.
I sound like a supervillain? :-\
Yeah seriously. I didn’t think I sounded like a villain either. But you learn something every day Phantom.
I’m trying to think of an MRA that sounds like a supervillain… none coming to mind.
I mean, Bane666 has that skull-in-a-jar thing going for him, but hes about as intimidating as, well, a skull in a jar. Razorbladekandy has never said anything overtly sinister. And I’d bet Karen Straughan and the other Honey Badgers are really nice in person!
Barbar has been kinda out there, but that’s more passion than anything else, and nothing on the levels of Green Goblin or Dr. Doom.
What the hell is an MRA? Meals Ready to Ate?
Frequently.
Well, he is kind of an entitled jerk, so it fits.
Why do douches always interject pointless bullshit into… Oh wait, answered my own question
and you just made this thread of emotionally driven diarrhoea worth reading.
Sounds more like a Dark Enlightenment type to me, though there may be some overlap. Generally, he sounds like someone who spends more time in a word processor than is healthy.
“Dark Enlightenment” is an interestingly descriptive oxymoron. I like it. But, there had to be a less contradictory phrase. “Dark Revelation” maybe?
I prefer “Historical Illiteration” personally.
Dork Entitlement.
I think he sounds more like a mercantilist or a reverse SJW than anything. As in, he takes the outdated idea of mercantilism (economics is a completely zero sum game) as a fact, but takes the opposite moral tack to a Social Justice Warrior. An SJW would say that all benefit we have ever gained through trade with others, and particularly trading with other nations, is stolen, and we should give it back. Deus seems to take the idea as a “first come, first served” and whoever competently claims it, owns it by right. Thus his rush to claim currently unexploited resources ASAP.
In reality, the idea of “wealth creation” by applying labor to our environment is much closer to the truth. Sure, gold is valuable, but worked gold is significantly more valuable than either gold bars or ore, particularly as used in vital electrical components, etc.
… He… doesn’t. At all. You just dislike him, so you associated him with something else you dislike.
Deus talks about money and greed being the root of all things, and evidently throws himself behind this idea 100%. I’d call him a socialist, except he seems to think that money and greed are GOOD things, so… social darwinist, maybe? Capitalist?
Eh, if you put a gun to my head, I’d have to say ‘capitalist as seen by a hardcore socialist’
Seems more like state or capital directed state capitalism to me. East India Company, for example.
feudalist would be my guess.
he is very aware that he has power over others, and that his power comes from his wealth, since that is what he has been wielding as a weapon.
which is pretty much how feudalism worked, having money was what granted the aristocracy the ability to raise armies, but at the same time, if they didnt take care of those in their land, there would be no trade to derive taxes from. and there was also the possibility of peasant rebellions or other things to undermine them.
I… don’t think he does? I haven’t heard anything from him that sounds like MRA rhetoric, and actual MRAs tend to be very unsubtle about it. He’s delivered a very impressive rant on money, morality, and power, but gender hasn’t come up even once. Supervillain, yes. MRA, no.
Two misquoting of the bible……the full quote is “the love of money is the root of all sorts of evil.” As in the love of money causes all sorts of people to choose to do evil things to get money. Much like how an addict will do anything to get their next fix.
The bible has been translated and edited so many times, that I’m pretty sure that everything left in it is apocryphal.
The bible has been translated a lot, but the most recent versions are nearly direct translations of the oldest available manuscripts to be found, they are then cross referenced with each other, to find any discrepency, and then translated int modern English, the one that does this the best is “The New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures” available online at JW.org,it even has an appendix talking about the translation process
key word: “available”.
You are another Witness? Cool! :D
*high-five* JW’s unite
That’s pretty awesome! Too bad countless churches still rely on the KJV >.< Which is known as being the most… manipulated version, for lack of a better term.
Really? The *most* manipulated of *all* of them? “Known” by whom, I wonder? I could name a few of the modern translations (including one already mentioned) that make translation choices no competent translator would make unless he/she was deliberately trying to change the meaning. Some of these have several, and a couple have most every expounding of a particular doctrine or two altered. If you’re seriously worried, read two unrelated versions side-by-side, or get an interlinear Bible. Also, read the whole Bible, the important doctrines are repeated, assumed, and referenced too many times for most any redactor to catch and “fix” all of them. Any who did would leave a *huge* trail of alterations, making their hatchet work obvious.
“Parthenos,” for instance, is where our term “parthenogenisis,” meaning “produced from an unmated female” comes from, precisely because it is the technical term for “virgin” in ancient Greek. There is absolutely no term that could more clearly state that exact meaning, and there were general words and specific words for other, related meanings, but *I* know what he really meant. Also, the Hebrew scroll of Isaiah needed the same clarification. And those other verses. Please stop looking at all the verses referencing Jesus’s supernatural origin, there are too many to fix them all. . .
Sure, the original KJV, or AV, had (the) apocrypha and (very few) spurious texts added in, and made some “interesting” word choices, such as transliterating some forms of the Greek word “baptidso” (dunk,immerse) instead of translating them, or avoiding the word “Sodomite” in some verses. Many of the new translations follow those choices and add their own, sometimes worse, “special rules,” but let’s pick on the main one as the “worst.” I’m sure that won’t discourage people from reading their Bibles.
The KJV at least kept in almost every word the autographs (original manuscripts) had and tried to render them faithfully into the common language, without writing their dogmas into texts that never supported them. In fact, he translators kept so close to the original wording that they changed the English language forever: Read the original foreword to the 1611 version for some brain-twisting sentence structures. If you get through it, I promise you’ll have a new appreciation for what the translators did in the translation itself. Those strange words were common back then, languages change.
Not that, say, a good NASB study Bible or a NKJV isn’t easier to read and mostly clearer, just that the KJV doesn’t deserve the dumping on it gets, it’s an excellent translation that just requires more dedication to decipher the older English.
I have to agree with Anonymous Bible Reader on the “nearly direct translations of the oldest manuscripts available” bit; the strange thing is how very *little* it matters which manuscript you use! over 95% of the words in the manuscripts agree exactly, word-for-word and letter-for-letter. Even then, it is usually one or two manuscripts with one reading, and most of the rest all having the other reading. Most of the exceptions to this rule are variations in the title “the (tetragrammaton, read Jehova, God’s personal name from the Old testament) (sorry, can’t do small caps) LORD Jesus Christ (Messiah, Chosen one),” One manuscript group leaving out one word, another manuscript leaving out another term, a couple others just have one word, etc.
Most any difference you see between translations are just that: differences in translation choice. If you want a really detailed listing of the differences between both manuscripts and modern translations of them, check out (no italics or underline either) “The King James Only Controversy” by Dr. James White, referring to backlash against changes in the newer translations.
Actually, this reaction is pretty mellow compared to the olden days; there isn’t rioting in the streets over whether the plant that shaded Jonah was a “gourd” or any old “vine” nowadays. The Bible has always been a big deal, whether you love it, hate it, or just try to ignore it.
The literal translation would be “all the evil [things]” – that’s generally thought to mean “some instances of every evil thing” (i.e. “all sorts of evil”), since that seems to fit into the Bible better than “every evil thing that happens” (i.e., “all evil” as sometimes understood).
I love this guy. He is DEFINITELY megalomaniac, narcissistic, and most assuredly going to be a “villain”. However, he will be a villain in the same sense as Magneto or Dr. Doom. When those two are portrayed right, they are indeed all of the above but they also are not pure evil or so full of themselves to endanger the ones they are in charge of. One of the best Dr. Doom portrayals was when his lackeys kept failing them they said they should be imprisoned or killed but Doom was all “That would be a HORRIBLE waste of good resources.” I forget what iteration it was that did that though. Like the evil villain that kills or horribly hurts his underlings when they fail is honestly on the fast track to losing those underlings.
Sensible villains are always a good thing to see in writing. We also need sensible heroes who aren’t utterly blind to the world around them, with no knowledge of the villain’s plans until it’s too late and having to play catchup. For the love of good writing people, remember that a back and forth between villains and heroes can be entertaining too!
It is more important to understand why something failed than to punish someone. Now if someone actively sabotaging your endeavours, it behooves you to deal with them. If they prove incompetent you must replace them. Kill them, jail them, or fire them if necessary but often reassignment or otherwise addressing the issues that lead to their failure in competence is better in the long run. If they lost because the opponent was more fortunate or skilled, well then it’s just stupid to punish them.
… Man. I so want to kick Deus in the balls until he gives me all his money, then keep kicking so he understands that there’s more to life than just money.
What a stupid greedy pig of a man, so full of himself and smug with his head up his you know what that he’s probably piping air in through his navel.
What. A. Tool. To. His. Own. Bloated. Ego.
What. A. Sheeple. To. Consider. Their. Own. Morals. And. Standards. Better. Than. Anyone. Else’s. (Boy, isn’t that annoying? To incorrectly punctuate a sentence structure to boost your own ego? :) )
It is annoying, Narngoat. D:<
Huh, is Sheeple the singular form? I know sheep is both plural and singular, though of course we all known person is singular and people is plural. A quandry…
Oh well, English is a whore of a language anyway.
Oh no, it’s not a whore, it’s a cutpurse. It follows other languages down dark alleys, clubs them upside the head, and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
I love that so much, that I’m gonna mug you for it.
one of my absolute favorites is this: what is the person who watches the screen upon which the captured video from a camera trained upon the zoo lizard called?
The Monitor monitor monitor monitor.
How do you describe a large ungulate from central New York state that tricks other ungulates from the same area?
Buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
Wouldn’t the sentence “I want to put a hyphen between the words Fish and and and and and Chips in my Fish-and-Chips sign” have been clearer if quotation marks had been placed before fish, and between Fish and and, and and and and, and and and and, and and and and, and and and and, and and and chips, as well as after Chips?”
*mic drop*
Amateur. :)
Mug the right person for it then
—James Davis Nicoll, rec.arts.sf-lovers (1990)
It’s “rifle” their pockets, not “riffle”.
So since it was a quote, I guess roguebfl should have said “riffle [sic]”?
I had a mini-epiphany today. I think the internet has developed sentience and is trying to teach people proper grammar. I got yet another ‘urgent’ spam email today, supposedly from Google, with the text “Three messages have been recover from you’re account” along with a link to click.
The web itself is sending these messages. If you recognize it as incorrect you will ignore it and go about your business. Those people who don’t know grammar will click on it and be penalized by getting infected with malware. Over time, this punishment strategy is designed to raise the overall literacy of people using the internet.
Every day I find more reasons to love the Internet. Or at least to be sexually attracted to it.
Guy makes a comment about Deus, and the response contains personal insults?
Not cool.
Thank you.
And yet, your comment contained personal insults, not to mention, hypocrisy: you are going to take all his money and keep it for yourself to teach him that money isn’t everything
And yet, the one is directed at a fictional character in the comment pages about the story in which that fictional character plays a part. The other is directed at a poster because someone disagrees with their comment.
There’s a difference.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PunctuatedForEmphasis
I’m just going to leave this link here.
What you posted was so punctuated, you could paint it yellow and make it wear square pants
It is interesting that your reaction to his megalomania and greed, fed by efforts to produce greater standards of living precisely so they increase efficiency of resource exploitation to accelerate the wealth of all involved, is to resort to petty violence to pocket it for no effort of your own. And then continue to commit that violence purely out of spite that he would disagree with you.
I don’t agree with Deus’s quote regarding Satan; it reveals a lack of understanding of Satan’s true sin – pride and greed, demanding all glory for himself in denial of the free will God wished man to utilize and learn from – and I think his explanation of enlightened self-interest is needlessly antagonistic.
But his overall approach is not actually villainous. And is quite efficacious. Frankly, if he’s hiring, I’d be interested in working with the man. I’m no mercenary, but until I see him resort to turning violence on people who are not, in essence, criminal monsters exploiting innocent people, I have no reason to actually view his methods as evil. (Plus, he could probably fund my desire to invent neural interfaces for computer control.)
Oh no, we don’t have to stop the improvement of the countries he’s helping.
We just need to get the point across to him that money and greed aren’t everything, because the way he’s talking, he wants to own everything and everyone because he thinks he’s better than everyone else.
Given his “bring the thunder” remote, and his veiled comments regarding maxima and his plans, he’s almost 100% guaranteed to end up as an antagonist by the end of everything. The main exception will be if an outside threat comes and he has to help because everyone has to pitch in, but once that threat is over, he’ll probably become a villain again.
For all his good intentions, and the good results in some cases, he’s still a greedy megalomaniacal bastard. He’s going to get people hurt and killed.
So, you can are going to teach him a lesson… by hurting him and being a bigger greedy arzehole than he is, and not just a greedy arzehole but a lazy one who is going to take money from someone who has actually worked for it (you believe setting up the infrastructure in a country that barely had roads is easy? o_O)
Okay so in panels 1 and 3, does it almost look like CC might be attracted to Deus, and then he goes off the fucking ranch on panel 5, and CC snaps out of it? I really want to see more of CC.
Love is the prime motivator. Greed is merely the love of stuff.
Basically what I thought (the word I had in mind was “desire”: greed and lust are both specific forms of desire, and it’s certainly true that desire leads to most if not all evil – and good – in the world.
Wish that was more true. We’d live in a better world if love was the prime motivator. Love is supper strong a motivation. Any other motivation can become super strong as well, but often other motivations fall away if they lose credit because of what they motivate you to do, or how the world reacts to it or ignores it.
Greed is strong because often it’s easy to rationalize, and the prize that one is greedy for looks so good. Greed is powerful because it has a reward we want, and often blinds us of any complaint or critism. Anger is strong. Just because it is. People have to be trained from childhood up to cool their anger and not let it flare up. Lust, attraction, romantic love, and sex are all strong motivations, even if they aren’t the strongest, for the time they appear, they are unignorable. Fear motivates and paralyzes, so in a way it can over power other motivations through paralyzing them. It isn’t the strongest motivation because so many people can reach into themselves to be brave and have another motivation be stronger then fear, however that said it could be argued that one of the strongest motivations for being alive is fear of death. It is sad if anything out sways that fear.
Any emotion can be a strong motivation. Any need or responsibility can become fairly strong as well. And many comparisons to other people motivate us to try to be like them, or to be something different from them. Depending sometimes on the respect and disgust we give them.
The cover page looks too character-heavy, Sydney doesn’t even look like the MC (though coloring might improve it if done right).
It might be better if you reduce the size taken by Arianna, Peggy, and Anvil since they have little screen time.
Who says that Sydney even is the MC?
Hey, hows about removing two of the Harem, only need one of her, right? And why even have Ari at all, she’s not even a member of the squad, she’s just a pencil pushing lawyer
So is the big scar on Deus’s face from when he tried one of these smart lines on the wrong person?
There’s a story there, and probably even more why with all of his money he hasn’t gotten cosmetic surgery to hide it.
My guess is vanity. He thinks it makes him look intimidating or something.
question/observation on the Vote Incentive:
Isn’t Peggy supposed to have an assload of tattoos and scars?
Peggy is not in the incentive.
The one you think is Peggy is actually a Harem.
Yup, two Daphne’s: Blondini as Padme leading Berry as her ‘daughter’ Slave Leia
Deus is not totally off with his “greed is at the center” idea, but I think he messed up the center piece. It is survival and procreation:
1. the survival of the species as a whole
2. the survival of our personal cultureset
3. the survival of our personal DNS set/set of world views (in the case genetic reproduction is not viable).
Greed is simply a stepping stone along this path. Having many resources allows our offspring to have a high chance to themself having successfull offspring.
Having a prosperous culture/country means we can be more egoistically.
Since 1+2 are mostly guaranteed for us people in the western/1st world nation, we naturally tend towards expressing 3 a lot more. Whereas in the past and in current poorer regions stuff like survival of the clan/tribe plays a bigger role, because times were less certain for those parts.
DNS? Don’t you mean DNA?
No, he means DNS. I WILL BE DAMNED IF THOSE IF I LET THOSE TIME-WARNER MOTHERFUCKERS CHANGE MY DNS SETTINGS VIVA LA INTERNET!
I suspect Deus knows that “money is power” is the actual naive opinion. Money is specifically negotiating power, and sometimes negotiations break down…
But, as he points out, if you’ve invested your money in means to project force, it’s power then, too.
A friend from college had a very interesting viewpoint regarding money/wealth… wealth (in whatever form) is the ability to mobilize energy or the products of said energy.
The effort to make or grow something counts as energy. Resources? Collected by the directed expenditure of effort/energy, and compensated via pay/trade.
Lust is just a different form of greed really.
Greed defined as ” an intense selfish desire for something” anyway. What is lust but desire for physical pleasure? I think the guy has a point and Greed is the root of all evil.
I am of the opinion these things are more interconnected then reductionist.
Greed can satisfy your Lust can satisfy your Pride can satisfy your Greed. Etc Etc Etc.
I don’t care if he’s a good guy or a bad guy. He’s awesome.
Hey, I don’t normally comment on webcomics but I had to here. I have been reading grrl power since somewhere between the bank robbery and where the team gets introduced to the public. (I think it was somewhere mid-2012.) This is my favorite webcomic of all time by a long shot. IMO this webcomic provides the perfect balance of cheesecake/humor/violence/cool backstories/emotion/powers/everything else. I also love how you develop everything so well. I know you get annoyed at yourself for taking 40 pages to show a cafe but that’s precisely what I love about this. Every character is well developed every story arc always feels like it could be its own series. Deus is one of the most well written comic book villains I have ever read and as someone with ADHD, I love how accurate your portrayal of Sidney is. All of the characters are unique enough to have an entire series and yet somehow you manage to keep this about the team as a whole. This is truly a masterpiece of comics. Mr. Dave Barrack, you are the J.R.R Tolkien of comics. Thank you for this extraordinary journey.
Deus would fit so well on Feregnar. Trouble is, he’d have to remember Ferenghi contracts are only valid between Ferenghi.
That’s fine. Human contracts are only valid between humans.
Deus would not only play the Ferenghi at their own game, he’d also win and write another 150 rules to add to the rules of acquisition.
Where do you think they got the first draft in the first place? o_O
Didn’t love this page. The last page I could kinda write off as Deus being an egomaniac, but the more I think about it, he should at least be a well-educated egomaniac, and anyone who’s taken a basic communications class in college would know better than to spout off this way in a venue like this. The guy sounds like a YouTube commenter.
Strategies for demagoguery are supposed to change depending on how much your audience agrees with you. Deus would know that and would not come on a show like this prepared to do nothing but deliver a sermon.
The one thing I did like about the page was that at least the reporter acted like a reporter would, in the face of someone sermonizing. Which is to say, give him enough rope to hang himself with. If this was real life, there’d be internet memes of this video almost immediately in a similar vein to the Charlie Sheen ones from a couple years ago.
Given what this sort of program is usually like, I can only imagine the scene in all the airport lobbies this is being broadcast to.
Prediction for next page:
Sydney sitting in bed still not able to sleep, watching late night PBS financial talk shows.
Sydney: Unholy monkey farting turtle cloacas this guy is a total douchebag….
This. Should. Have. Happened.
I think I’d like to have conversations with this guy! I would love to be in that group he has!
Actually, at this point I’m pretty sure that everything Deus says for public consumption is one huge pantomime (not that he doesn’t have fun doing it). “Look at me! I’m more proud than Satan, more ambitious than Alexander the Great, and more self-centered than Ann freaking Rand! I’m the uber-capitalist and the beauty of it is I make the world a Better Place by following my bliss! Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair! Ha Ha Ha Ha!”
Yet nobody as crazy as he appears to be gets to his level of success, so it’s got to be mostly an act. We shall see.
Look at the show I am putting on.
Are you not entertained?
Good.
Then you will not notice what I am doing over there.
Deus is the original badass.
I think I have a new hero.
I know who that is……. That’s the bad guy………… Why aren’t we running away?
I just realized, the world map in the background is representing the countries by the symbol used for each respective countries’ currency. Though my statement isn’t entirely accurate because Euros engulf Europe and there being other countries I don’t accurately know the currency for.
No matter what you say about this guy, if his philosophy is right or wrong, he is one thing- dangerous. He is not a man that will stop. He wants it all, and he will take it. God help any who say “no, this is mine”.
He would put the world in his pocket, and that’s why he has to be stopped.
Actually her necklace looks like honeycomb cereal. I quite like it.
The amount of amateur pseudointellectual wankery in response to the Deus interview has been stunning, and it’s all wavered between “get me some popcorn”, “is this guy serious”, and “I hope that poster never gets into a position of authority over so much as hamsters”.
blah, blah, blah…”therefor wars are waged with money, therefor money makes right” Okay, except for the Vietnam war, the american revolution, several revolutions and revolts and even the ewoks prove that Money does not necessarily determine the outcome, or what is “right”. But it was a valiant attempt.
Hoo boy! Okay, don’t have time to list it all out, but the first one that comes to mind and easiest to lay straight is Revolutionary War. Remember the Boston Tea Party? Remember No Taxation Without Representation? Chances are, if England didn’t get so greedy, we might have been fine and dandy being their colonies. It was only when they got greedy then pulled a ‘screw you, we got the armies and navies and you’re just odds and ends’ that we finally said enough was enough.
Also, those revolts and stuff usually sparked because of the greed of the current leader. A high percentage can be traced back to a dictator or what-have-you taking everything from their people – money, food, land, lives – so they can horde it for themselves. Thus the trace back to greed. Even with the French Revolution, it was sparked with the royals and nobles letting commoners starve while they lived comfortably and ate well.
So not only a valiant attempt, but a very accurate one.
Oh, and yeah >.> the whole “might makes right, money builds might, therefore money makes right”? He’s playing off an old quote, that’s often been frowned down upon, and even the US had quite a bit of funding thanks to Ben Franklin working his magic and a lot of the rich kids such as Thomas Jefferson and Andrew Jackson during the revolutionary war >.> So in that case, while fighting on the home turf helped, money greased the gears >.>
okay combining the two. I was not disagreeing with whether greed caused the war, or not. I just don’t buy the whole money makes right thing. I am curious as to the old quote you are referencing? (unless you mean “might makes right” because okay I get that.) But it doesn’t follow. Unless you are trying to convince me that the colonies had more funding than England? I agree that they had foreign funds. I just think the money = might argument is weak in terms of military conflict. In fact I would even argue that if you bring in Ben Franklin’s diplomacy it would be more a matter of charisma rather than money. I could be mistaken. i have never looked at how much money was spent by the british v. colonies in the american revolution. similarly I didn’t look at how much foriegn funding the vietnam army had. Just like I did not compare the relative GDP of the ewoks v. empire. (admitedly fictional) my ultimate example, however would be the sentinelese island people who have no money (to our knowledge) but have kept themselves free from many more well funded countries.
Money itself is amoral meaning it is neither good nor bad. It is just a tool, literally. It all depends on how/why the person uses it.
Okay, mad respect for Deus in this strip. It’s hard not to appreciate a villain who shows more intellect than most of the internet x.x Not saying much, and present company excepted, but still!
That sound you hear is one of every PR person facepalming.
Money only has value because we agree on it having value, and use it as a proxy for value in social trades. Money is only a proxy for power within a cooperative social setting.
Power that exists outside the cooperative social setting cannot be bought.
And there will always be that sort of power.
I hate to be that guy, but since one of the characters in the comic corrected a misquotation, I feel like it’s OK for me to correct this so commonly mis-corrected mis-quotation. The actual quote is “(For) the love of money is the root of all KINDS of evil”. There is a huuge difference between that and your misquotation.
I suppose I could correct it, I don’t think it would change his point either way.
Well that answers that question…
To quote Kipling:
Gold for the merchant, Silver for the maid.
Copper for the craftsman, cunning at his trade.
Good! Laughed the King, sitting in his hall,
But iron, cold iron, will be ruler of them all.
Money has no value in and of itself. It only has value due to what you can buy with it. As such, money is not a root to anything, but merely a path to what you seek to purchase. Similarly, power has value due to what you can do with it, and is a path to the results of wielding it.
The sin of greed is the mistake of thinking that the path is a goal in and of itself rather than the means to an end.
So the important questions to ask are, has Deus fallen into this sin? And if not, what does he plan to do with all the wealth and power he has gathered?
Man, this is totally what I’d be if I was a villain. I look up to this man.
Couple of omission issues- panel 1- “What are your feelingS…” Missed the s to pluralise feelings.
Panel 2, 2cnd paragraph of Deus’s speech should be either “…the lack of money THAT is the…” or “I assert that not only is the lack of money…” The second one is probably easier to do since it doesnt affect the size of the speech bubble.
D-Ex at this point is a long winded version of Gordon Geko.
The KJV translation of 1st Timothy 6:10 is not necessarily the most correct to modern English
NIV
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
NASB
For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.
Guy may be shady as all hell…well. He really isn’t. He has a stated purpose and is absolutely driven to attaining it. He operates toward that purpose and tends to do some good in the process, though it is definitely just a by product. He’s greedy and probably not really as nice as his persona shows, but he doesn’t come across as a douchebag just for douchebaggery’s sake. He seems to have an overarching purpose for it, and not one that really falls as negative. All in all, he is a dick, but not a terrible one.
Guy named Deus, swears that greed and money are the root of all things, has been scarred, gee, who thinks like that and has a scar?
https://spawn.wikia.com/wiki/Mammon
No, I’m not accusing Dave of plagiarism. A trifle of homage perhaps, as Dabbler is, but then I don’t know how many of you know that, either.
And whether or not Deus is ever shown to be an actual deity or demigod is something for the future.
And the reason for this addition is because the internet is RIFE with ridiculous accusations of plagiarism. About 95% of which are utterly unwarranted.