Grrl Power #390 – Project overkill
Kivuli is Swahili for ghost or shadow. In case you have cause to casually slip that in to a conversation.
Deus may have been slightly overprepared for this meeting. But hey, if you’ve got the resources, why not bring a half dozen super powered guns to a knife fight? Sure some people might call you a dirty cheater. If they survive to tell the tale that is. You know, history, winners, etc.
I like how they’re all wearing reasonably effective looking tactical armor, but Vale is still rocking the V to the navel evil henchwoman look.
Our chatty Geatish friend is actually a cameo character from Grrl Power super pal Patreon Sean Mnoholitny. Don’t worry about him too much yet, he’ll be more of a slow burn reveal.
Lots of good comments about the good and evil and ethics on the last page. Some people pointed out that Deus might be calling out Indinge as a real piece of crap in order to justify his actions, actions which he might have taken regardless. Or maybe he did what he did only because of Indinge’s character. There seemed to be general agreement in the comments that motivation plays a factor in determining the ethics of actions, and at this point only Deus knows what his real reasons are.
I thought it was interesting that no one I saw (apologies if I missed it) brought up the fact that we consider Maxima a good guy, even though during the press conference she admitted to killing an indeterminate number of supers. Yes, she was a soldier under orders, which definitely speaks to motivation. Some people accept that as justification for killing, some people don’t. A sterile discussion about ethics may still suggest a life lost is a life lost, but can be myopic to global and long term concerns. Again, I think it comes down to the most good done via the least harm.
Some of the supers Maxima killed were definitely protecting an evil regime ruled by an evil man, some might have been forced to fight by the regime, and some may have had nothing do to with the army, but were just defending their country against an invading force. For the (classified) record, Maxima didn’t commit wholesale slaughter. She killed the ones that absolutely were there to kill her or other American soldiers, and whenever possible she tried the shock and awe approach, that is, she whooped their asses hard and publicly so word got around that fighting her was hopeless. I.E. quickly demoralize into surrender to minimize the total harm done. That’s not to say she didn’t enjoy cutting lose a little, but she wasn’t flying around snapping necks and incinerating infantry either.
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Wow, he’s alive!
Well yeah, you can’t abdicate (willingly or not) if you are dead
Yet
He’s alive … for now.
He’s alive – then? This is a flashback, yes?
Well played sir
Deus in the interview: “However, as you know,….his health took a sharp downturn.” Panel 4 last comic. Indinge is shuffling off this mortal coil. He just hasn’t left yet.
Or perhaps he’s just been crippled and will be left close to death. Making him a permanent resident of a hospital accomplishes the goal of taking him out of the government, ensures the son will be cooperative so that dad won’t be finished off, and lets Deus start his building program with a nice new hospital.
We meet again, for the first time!
Well, Vektor there…This isn’t the first time we’ve seen him. Granted, this is a flashback & it’s his first appearance in the timeline, but we should all recognize him from the super-brawl royale. So that means he’s been in Dues’ employ for quote a while before he showed up at the steak house…So guess who’s most likely to have helped arrange that superbrawl in the first place…
O.O
Yeah, that’s why said “We meet again, for the first time!”
This isn’t the first time we have seen him, but this is the first time he has appeared chronologically
But, we don’t know if he was still employed by Deus at the time of the Restaurant Rumble
Rule 73 of doing illegal stuff: Always expect a double cross.
Rule 97 of doing illegal stuff: The fancier the outfit, the more evil he person.
Rule 142 of doing illegal stuff: You are plotting, they are plotting, everyone is plotting
Rule 145 of doing illegal stuff: Remain useful, or you’ll die. Don’t expect to walk away when you are done.
I’m working on a book.
A book on Ferengi business practices? :)
A book of things to remember whenever doing anything that involves 2 or more parties doing something that is either illegal, morally unethical, or secretive. I have 185 rules so far. However, I think Rule 1 is the most important. Rule 1 of doing illegal stuff: Don’t do it if you can avoid it.
Which rule sums up that the significance of it being illegal is the difference in power and application of said power between you and the people who say it is illegal?
There’s actually an official one of those. It’s called the (somewhere over a hundred) rules of acquisition. My favorite one of them is this. “Good customers are as rare as gold pressed latinum, treasure them.”
MY second favorite rule of acquisition is “Treat those in your debt like family… EXPLOIT THEM!”
The Ferengi already have such a book, and their Rules of Aquisition are well documented.
Waldo love the idea, is there a place to find the full list?
Not yet. Still working on it…it takes a long time to fully explain a few of these rules. I also want to do a follow up about Rules to Make You Look Less Dumb…but that one could take years.
he he, looking forward to it being released. I rolleplay a machiavelli mastermind and any fresh points of view is helpful to further improve he’s control in the game.
Important rule to doing illegal stuff… If you get caught, don’t be a dick. If you don’t get caught, don’t be a dick. All in all, don’t be a dick.
Unless you are a Dick.
That’s why if I ever have any sons (or daughters), they will neverbe named Richard…
“Pulls out the pruning shears.”
You will never have children.
Rules to Make You Look Less Dumb:
Keep your mouth shut- when you’re silent people have to guess how smart you are, when you speak people know how smart you aren’t.
It is better to stay silent and let everyone think you a fool than to speak and remove all doubt for them.
You probably want to cross-check your list with the Evil Overlord List, just to make certain you’re not covering too much of the same ground. https://www.eviloverlord.com/lists/overlord.html
That list is more for super villains, who are the head of massive organizations of evil. The list I’m comprising is more a general compendium of how to conduct yourself when doing anything illegal. Not all rules apply to every situation, but when they do apply they instruct on how to do them correctly.
For instance, things like Not bragging about your deeds publicly. Never have someone else do something you can do yourself. Paper trails are bad, computer trails are worse.
I hope if I write this out I can get it published. I’m trying to make the rules themselves sound serious, and the explanations sound like comedic parody. This way, those that want to do something illegal can actually use it (thus, it’s a self help book) and those that just want a good read will get a good laugh (much like Bro Code or The Playbook from HIMYM)
Rule 34 of doing illegal stuff: someone has made a porn version of it.
…make them develope it and get at least 50% of the profit.
Vekter worked for Deus?
… Does he still?
I’m imagining that Vekter was more of a freelance Mercenary type. He’s just there for the paycheck, and freely leaves once the contract is up. And this is set to be a few years ago.
A decade ago.
Since it took him a decade to raise the nations economy from where it was to what it is now.
For Kevin’s sake, hope not (not if they go for the “He made us do it!” defence, and win)
Damnit Bloke you asked my question! =P
And still no reveal of Vale’s powers. I haz a sad =(
Be faster next time :P
There’s also that guy in the last panel with the head in “mummy wrappings.” Didn’t he show up on that page of villains that were watching the press conference, along with Vehemence (& dues at the bottom of the page)?
;)
No, DaveB stated on the last page that Lia is not the same person (for one thing, Lia is female)
Vekter’s girlfriend is probably also there, just behind the scenes. Because, you know, all the teleporting going on. If they just did it with super-science, which they could I suppose, it would cheapen her power set considerably. So I hope it’s her and not some gizmo bought for a few trifling millions.
The chatty ninja guy for some reason looks like a WoW character. Not quite sure why that’s my first impression of his appearance.
Seems Irish to me
OH!! You meant the chummy one with the mask in panel seven
Actually, no, I meant the redhead. But on a second look, the masked guy fits that description, too.
Chummy Ninja is my new favorite. Sorry, Ladies of Archon.
Wait! What if Chummy Ninja is someone we know? Personality seems in the Math ballpark. But Gun? Hmm.
What if invisi-projector is X?
Now I here Liam Neeson from “Taken” when I read his lines.
The one with the mask, I mean.
its probably the muscle.
but the mask doesn’t seem fancy enough to be WoW.
Same for me. Probably because the mask is somewhat similar to T5 rogue
First impression? Deadpool actually.
He has a sword, a gun, and makes a punny threat. I don’t get a WoW vibe from him at all…
Irish ninja? Maybe its Dr McNinja’s cousin.
Its set to be about 10 years ago.
Anyway, i really hope that Vale is bulletproof to some degree.
I cant really see anything else excusing her for running around like that giving anyone even partially competent a free shot at her heart.
It’s possible she’s a Shielder, and has a forcefield up there. Maybe it can only cover a certain amount, so she gives people an obvious target she can focus on, and one that also gives her a little more initiative against femtracted opponents (I realize that I’m rather surprised that we don’t yet have gender-neutral words for describing people who are ‘into dudes’ or ‘into ladies’ yet.)
Check out the main character from the “Azure Bonds”: right here, her top is similarly ‘open’ but her top is actually magic and the ‘gap’ has a +1 protection spell on it (or was a higher protection? o_O)
Umm, isn’t the gender-neutral word ‘straight’? Or is that no longer acceptable terminology? Or did you mean a terminology that cover both genders being attracted to a single gender?
Horny?
Androsexual – attracted to males
and
Gynosexual – attracted to females
are the terms I have come across.
How about “attracted”, that magical word that explains that “a” is into “b” regardless of the identity of either party. No need for sjw nonsense.
maybe vale has to have a certain amount of skin showing to use her super power?
ahh like Super-MILF’s heat producing nuclear breasticles
stupid question: is the sound effect on panel one a Beowulf joke, or have I missed something completely?
(I gather there’s a new tv adaption of Beowulf, so i guess it would be topical pop-culture, but I’ve not actually watched it; have been informed it’s terrible so haven’t got around to checking yet)
um…there’s no sound effect ON panel one…
the guard is yelling out word “Sire”, which is another term for “Your Majesty”…
Maybe they meant panel two with “GEATISH”
yep. apparently my brain deleted panel one when writing that comment.
yep, i meant the ‘geatish’ of panel two
yep. that’s because i apparently can’t count to two.
i actually meant the ‘geatish’ effect :)
Nice sermon, Deus. Did you get the inspiration while looking at the bathroom mirror that morning?
How long did it take you to come up with the snideism? o_O
He had someone prepare it for him a head of time. All he needed to do was plug in a name.
Look at the time stamp, less than 25 minutes. That one was so obvious, I could not ignore it.
And I did not even know the word snideism before. Thank you
Fairly sure made that word up
Even if the word was made up only recently, it’s probably still derived from the name of Snidely Whiplash.
I dub the weird masked guy “The Projector”. He comes with a very hot 25 watt bulb.
He has a sidekick, “Easy-Bake Oven Lad”, who also comes with a very hot 25 watt bulb…
I guess he’s the reason the rest is was teleporting/invisible?
looks like light manipulation to me, so had to be invisibility.
a sudden teleportation should cause small disorientation even if you are expecting it.
Nope. Nope. Nope. Mine makes less sense and more fun.
… I am really Jealous of my brother. ….. and while he has taunted me with this, no way in hell am I going to ruin his fun.
Can I call you guys Monolithy? Because man… Gaelic Irish and Welsh names are just unfair.
Wait, wait, let me guess… “Moh-line-y”- yeah?
Mah-no-hoe-let-knee
it’s Ukrainian, and I have no clue what our ninja’s name is.
Bob, his name is Bob.
That’s… much easier than I thought it was.
Still loving Vale’s Valley ;)
There is a multi-level joke about the name “Vale” here.
While “Vale” is a poetic form of “Valley” in English, the word also means “Lie” or “Fake” in Finnish.
When that word is used with “breasts” it means “silicon implants”.
When I saw a female character with “Vale” as a name, my first thought was:
https://cs5.pikabu.ru/images/big_size_comm/2015-12_5/1451033668196195582.jpg
I hope that was a typo and you meant silicone. Although, if she has ‘silicon’ implants, then she would be somewhat more bullet resistant in her upper thorax.
Nice touch on the ejected round from the pistol
That should happen more in tv shows and movies. Even non-humorous ones. Anyone see the wretched Masters of the Universe movie? The Principal from Back to the Future was in it as a cop, and I swear he punctuated every sentence by cocking his shotgun, yet no shells ever got ejected.
They usually don’t trust actors with functional guns. Even the firing ones can be faked by CGI these days. After blank-firing accidents and fatalities, it’s no wonder really. The stunt people use them and dress accordingly. If possible.
Anyone else remember Jon-Erik Hexum? In 1984, he was the male lead in the CBS series “Cover Up”. Between takes, he got bored and started playing around with a .44 revolver loaded with blanks. He took out all but one of the blanks, spun the chamber, and played Russian Roulette with the gun pressed against his right temple. The wadding was propelled out of the barrel with enough force to drive a quarter-sized piece of bone into his brain, leaving him brain dead. (The wadding itself did not penetrate.)
eddiisnot is right, though. Nowadays, in many cases, they use plastic or rubber prop guns, and add digital effects of muzzle blast and falling brass. Case in point, if you watch The Making of The Mummy, Brendon Frazier is shooting his shotgun, and it makes about as much noise as a party popper. The bangs were added in post-production by firing a real shotgun of the same type to make the proper sounds, then dubbing that over the party popper noise.
Meanwhile, Evil Dead had such a small budget, they used real guns. Almost the entire crew wound up leaving for safety reasons. So when someone fires a gun in that, they’re firing a real gun.
I’m assuming you’re referring to the 1981 original, not the 2013 remake. Back then, they wouldn’t have had the cheap (and realistic) CGI that they have today. They still could’ve used blanks and/or balsa bullets, though.
In Aliens, they used balsa wood bullets. The balsa fragments into mostly harmless pieces that won’t even puncture a plastic bottle, but does not require the addition of a Blank Firing Adapter (BFA). I don’t remember if any of the guns used in Evil Dead were gas- or recoil-operated; if they were, they would’ve needed either the balsa bullets, or a BFA.
Yeah, the original 81 Evil Dead. You gotta deal with what you got I guess. They essentially had a budget of the change found in five couches and whatever they got for the couches.
I heard a story once somewhere that when Jimmy Cagney was making one of his gangster films, they wanted to use real bullets in a scene! I can’t find anything now to support the story though, so take it for whatever it’s worth.
Anyway, Cagney was supposed to stand off to the side out of the way as a sharpshooter dressed as a cop for the scene fired a few shots through a window and past him. Cagney couldn’t believe this would be safe and absolutely refused to do it, so they did it without him once to reassure him that he wouldn’t be hurt. The bullets came through the window and a few found something to ricochet off, rebounding right into the place where Cagney was supposed to have stood.
Supposedly, according to this story, it was not unknown for Hollywood to use live ammunition for some kinds of scenes back in the day, but once they almost killed Jimmy Cagney, saner heads prevailed.
Heh. Reminds me of one of the scenes in Lord of the Rings. To paraphrase Hugo Weaving:
“If I’d known they were shooting real arrows past my head, I would’ve refused to do that scene.”
That movie is a bit of a guilty pleasure for me. Whether it’s the entertainment of seeing Courtney Cox in a role she will NEVER talk about now, watching the young actor who will later play Tom Paris on Star Trek Voyager in one of his very first roles, or the irrepressible Billy Barty, I still have a copy of it on DVD.
We need to get a close-up of masked Super getting ‘chummy’ with his two new pals in the background of panel eight :D
it was probably the reaper from the overwatch.
Not played that game, but seen plenty of hentai of the girls though
Best I can get it ;) https://imgur.com/aM9Av1D
There’s one coming up.
Sweet! I was about to comment on how I really wanted that! :D
Another truly wild and crazy guy.
Okay, Indinge had a minimum of five guards in the room with him, Deus also brought in five with him, seems like a fair stand off to me :P
except at least one of them can disable all the guns.
except for the ones that he is holding right now… there are quite a few of them.
Only until all the guns flew over to Vekter. One thing distinguishing them from run-of-the-mill villains is the fact they used considerable restraint on handling the mooks. I suppose they intend to hand them over to the courts once Deus gets a new government organized. Nothing like seeing murderers and rapists getting there just desserts to make people trust a new bunch.
edit: there to their. sheesh!
Holy crap I would not have noticed Vekter there if it wasn’t for the who’s who
It makes for some fascinating questions about how Vektor fit into attack plan on the hero-steakhouse. Did Vehemence grab him up completely by accident just like the others, or is he still in his employ possibly indicating that Deus was the guiding force behind the attack?
And now for a totally random question: How much more (% wise) do you think Vektor is making working for Deus during the fashback than Halo is at ARCHON?
Probably several times more at least
at his first smile…i wouldn’t have trusted him.
Indinge or Deus? Both are dangerous in their own realm. Indinge just got in over his head.
So… we know that Vekter, at least, worked for Deus in the past.
Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geats
And yes, in my opinion there is a world of difference between killing an enemy combatant as a soldier, and murdering someone who’s in the way of your plots. Indinge Sr. may have been a horrid individual, and killing him may make things better in that region, I have my doubts about that, but that still doesn’t make Deus any less a bad guy because he’s killing another bad guy. The enemy of my enemy is my enemy’s enemy, not my friend, and the bad guys are not one big happy monolithic organization.
Was there a better way of accomplishing Deus’ plans without than insulting the warlord and then claiming self defense? Of course there was. He could’ve helped Indinge’s people directly, without offering the man his “slice of the pie.” If the warlord was as bad as Deus claimed he was, Indinge would surely demand it cut, making the warlord the aggressor.
But the reason why people like Deus are the aggressors is because allowing the other bad guy to be the aggressor would require sacrifice on Deus’ part. His property would no doubt be destroyed. He’d have to keep his “private security force” on site 24/7, at combat rates of course, which would no doubt an expensive proposition. His own people may have been killed, which would at best be a blow to his public image, and at worst one of his own people may have been killed.
Who’s claiming ‘self defence’?
How could Deus have helped the people directly with Senior and his cronies running around? Unless Deus took up permanent residence, as soon as he or his people left after dropping off supplies, Senior and Co would be around in their trucks and haul it away
Deus didn’t tell his henchmen to act until Indinge threatened to have him shot. Deus may not actually be verbally claiming self defense, but from what I can see, he’s arranging things so that he [i]could[/i]. Otherwise he’d just kill the man and install his own puppet in his place.
As for your second point, that is exactly my point. There was no way Deus would be able to profit if he acted altruistically. He would have to expend money, resources, and perhaps lives, to help the people directly, until either Indinge was deposed by his own people, the man abdicated of his own free will, or the warlord wised up and let Deus do as he wanted in that country.
Or, he could have just gone straight to head cheese and make his spiel all legal and above board like, expecting the head cheese to demand all the money for himself but still, as he said, preferring the diplomatic approach over the violent approach (that, of course, does not rule out the violent approach, but that way is just messy)
The Warlord was the head cheese. At least in his nations region. So since that guy was the ruler of his nation, and he ruled via graft, greed, and squads of assassins that would force those under him to do his bidding. And where all wealth, food, and supplies would go to him and his croonies.
He did try the diplomatic approach, until his hand was forced. Even after giving a very fair warning of what’d happen to those who wouldn’t listen to reason.
But Deus’ hand wasn’t forced.
Deus could’ve walked away with a polite “Thank you for your time,” once it became clear that Indinge, Sr. wasn’t interested in Deus business plan. Instead Deus repeatedly insulted the warlord, made veiled threats, and clearly admits that he was planning on removing the warlord sooner or later.
It was forced, in a sense. Deus wasn’t going to accept no for an answer. However, he wasn’t set on attacking the monarch to achieve his “yes”. Only when Indinge flatly refused to talk any more and decided to eject Deus did any action occur. Deus flat out said to him: “I have plans for this region; you can either be a part of them… or not.”
Assuming Deus’ allegations are true, Indinge was a tyrant who abused his position, as tyrants are wont to do. They don’t treat the people below them with anything even remotely resembling respect; is it then unfair if an even more powerful person shows up and treats them the same way?
Deus gave Indinge a chance to see reason. And for all the talk about needing to remove him eventually, I imagine that if Indinge had taken the deal and learned when to bow his head, it wouldn’t have been necessary. But Indinge was what he was.
Maybe Deus is still evil for killing him in order to use the country for his own purposes. But from the population’s standpoint, they traded an evil, corrupt tyrant for an evil businessman who fully intends to greatly improve their quality of life. Deus is the lesser evil by MILES.
I mean, that can change if it turns out Deus is trying to hold a tyranny over the entire world, or if his reign turns out to be even more corrupt than Indinge’s. But all the plot we’ve seen so far suggests that Deus achieved exactly what he’s saying he has.
And the only difference worth mentioning between a good hero taking out Indinge and saving the country, or Deus doing it, is that between the two of them, Deus is the one who actually DID do it. Even if Deus is only using the country to benefit himself in the long run, the population can’t really complain. They’re way better off now. So it’s a very useful sort of “evil”, much like the death penalty in theory (assuming it’s saved for particularly heinous crimes and isn’t applied to an innocent person by mistake).
I guess I’m getting vibe from Deus’s actions here. I’m getting a sense that Deus had already set up a “Heads I win, tails you lose,” scenario long before he walked through Indinge Sr. front door. The idea that Deus’s hand was “forced” implies that this small time despot had some measure of control over the scenario. Our friendly neighborhood warlord had no control over what would happen here, beyond choosing whether he wanted to live another two minutes or two weeks.
Yes, Deus is perhaps the lesser of two evil evils here. The lesser of two evils is still evil, after all. However, I’ve read the Wealth of Nations, and I’m too familiar with the “governance” of the Robber Barons from the 19th century, and companies like the East India Company from the 18th Century, to believe that everything’s sunshine and lollypops now that Deus took over. Deus’s stated motive is profits, and what’s good for profits is bad for a country as a whole.
Not to mention that Deus has already proven to be an unreliable narrator, and so I doubt that his coup was bloodless as he appears to be claiming.
That’s not to say that I don’t like Deus as a character. He’s smart, genre savvy enough to avoid the obvious traps most bad guys get caught up in, has a fine s nose of the dramatic, and he’s obviously a graduate of the David Xanatos school of business. He’s what Lex Luthor could’ve been if he had had better control over his ego. All this means is that Deus is an exceptional bad guy… But bad guy he remains.
“what’s good for profits is bad for a country as a whole.”
Untrue. That only applies when referring to an organization that wants to squeeze every last penny of short-term profit as possible; a less zealous organization can turn a profit while also benefiting the country.
And, yes, Deus might be an unreliable narrator, but the interviewer has yet to argue the point that Deus has indeed caused the country’s economy to skyrocket, nor has she called him out on any poor quality of life in the region (which is pretty easy to discover even in tyrannical countries). Also, even in the flashback, he seems very insistent on improving the country instead of giving the higher-ups more comfort. Could be a front, yes, but those two points combined strongly suggest that it’s not – at least until we know more.
“Our friendly neighborhood warlord had no control over what would happen here, beyond choosing whether he wanted to live another two minutes or two weeks.”
But that IS control. And I’ll again point out that if Indinge had learned to bow his head to Deus, Deus perhaps could have changed his opinion on whether or not the corrupt monarch needed to be removed. Why kill Indinge if he were to learn the benefits of obedience?
Yeah, as I’ve said before, blood stains are hard to get out of an expensive suit, so it would make sense that Deus would prefer the diplomatic way first. But if all else fails, he can certainly afford a new suit…
Do remember that Deus was planning on having his companies manage the infrastructure build-out, to prevent exactly that sort of thing from happening. We may never know how Indigo-girl was supposed to become “one of the richest men in Africa,” but a fair assumption is that Deus would have been paying him directly as yet another means of keeping his hands off the goods.
By being in charge of a country going through skyrocketing industrialization and development. Deus wouldn’t need to pay him off directly; Indinge would make money just from the new businesses cropping up as the country developed. But Deus could easily have cut Indinge in on a fair amount of profit, too.
Stupid lack of edit button, anyways. Lets count the obvious powers, one guy that can hide a group of people from plain sight., Vekter’s powers we know about, and one guy can apparently cause Heart attack with eye contact.
and a Ninja or two.
Correction: one girl who can apparently cause Heart attack with eye contact
Two women that can induce heart attacks, if you count Vale.
That too ;)
My immunity to that power would be that I most likely wouldn’t be looking her in the eyes…
;)
Her: “Hey, my eyes are up here!”
Him, without looking up: “Yeah,I know.”
You can get a heart attack that way too. Granted, it might be questioned if that really qualifies as a super power, and you would be smiling as you crumble to the ground, but…
I just noticed, Heart Attack Girl has horns to go with her snake eyes.
Let’s also point out that Mister Mass Invisibility can get NO-SOLD by Sydney.
What? o_O
The “com” orb would reveal all the invisibles, at least to Sydney and she could point them out to others.
If it ever gets that far I imagine that her Comm Orb has a currently inactive feature that simply dispels non-physical means of concealment so that everyone in range is revealed as who or what they are to everyone else. So at higher levels she can just reveal everyone, much like Invisible Woman can do.
Oh right
It’s unlikely that it’ll ever really matter. Vale pointed out that it would pretty much be useless when it was brought up. I know Harem was in the room and all, but even then it suggests either that the invisible aura person is dead/has left Deus’ employ, or that Vale doesn’t think that there’ll ever be a conflict between Deus and Archon. And, really, the latter makes sense – unless Deus thinks himself invincible and wants to go full archvillain, pissing off Archon would be one of the LAST things he’d ever want to do.
Sure, he’s killed tyrants and taken over impoverished countries in the past, but let’s be honest. Maxima would probably approve of it.
Deus is a very large guy. Like, until this scene, I didn’t grok how tall he is. Height is funny in this comic because almost everyone is huge and Sydney is mini, but Deus would hold his own in the “tall guy” category with the Archon crew.
Which begs the question: Is he a super?
Love Vales expression here.
Clearly, she is not impressed by any of this.
Personally was getting a “What now, Boss?” vibe from her
personally, with the look on her face, i’m getting a “are your REALLY grabbing my ASS right now?!” vibe…
That too ;)
I’m going with ‘geez, can you BE any more theatrical?’
She’s never impressed in any of her appearances :)
No, she isn’t, and i love that about her.
and nobody else thought of this:
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/mckayla-is-not-impressed
when seeing her?
That’s her super power. To never be impressed by anything ever.
The very best kind of Villain and the most dangerous is an intelligent man willing to put all morality aside.
Vehemence
Vehemence didn’t put all morality aside, he didn’t act with the intent to kill anyone for example, not until Maxima upped things by trying to openly kill him first. It didn’t make him any less a great villain.
We will have to agree to disagree on how “great” a villain Vehemence is/was. I was not impressed at all.
I wouldnt put ‘great villain’ and ‘Vehemence’ in the same sentence honestly.
‘Annoying,’ ‘irritating,’ ‘will-you-die-already’ – those are the words I have when I think Vehemence. He started out good but the deus ex machinas he kept pulling out of his ka-pants got extremely frustrating :)
He acted like a psycho. He basically forces everyone to fight because he’s a sadist, but we’re supposed to consider him a gentleman. And he did try to kill Maxima simply because she was too tough for him to beat without killing her, apparently? Even though everything he did up until that point did seem like stuff which a psychotic nutcase who does want to kill people would do. That doesnt make him a good villain – it made him go from being a potentially good villain to annoying and two dimensional. I admit this might be tempered by how long that fight went on – if it had gone on for…. maybe a few months less I’d probably be less annoyed about Vehemence :) And I do love how the incarcerated him.
Deus, on the other hand – HE’S an excellent villain because all the best villains don’t actually consider themselves to actually be villains, even if they’re doing stuff contrary to what society deems acceptable.
Dr. Doom, Black Adam, Magneto, Lex Luthor, Dr. Sivana, Loki, Norman Osborne, Mr. Freeze, Galactus – all are villains. None of them actually consider themselves villains. They all think they have justifiable reasons for what they do. Heck, even the Joker doesnt actually count as someone who considers himself a villain – because he’s so insane and actually thinks it’s all a joke.
The more I think about it, the more I think that maybe if I had been reading in one big read instead of twice a week at a time, over a year, I might have enjoyed the Vehemence fight more :) I still think Deus is a much, much, much better villain because of how he does stuff that can keep people debating if it’s actually villainous or not.
I dunno about “best”. Once you cross that line against the wrong kind of people, you can’t take it back. If Deus managed to come across as a threat to public safety, he’d have people like Max marking his name down on a kill list. Unless the heroes are suddenly stricken with inoperable cases of “unrealistic morality”, his life expectancy would drop pretty quickly after that.
so far i’m not ranking Deus as any worse than a real life CEO. I mean yes he more or less took over a country, but there is a long history of first world companies doing terrible things to third world countries. The only thing different is he’s actually taking full responsibility, and used his own men rather than using proxies.
so as for the evil/not evil thing, we need more information. he ousted a corrupt regime and improved the region, but as part of move to build his power base, so all this reveals about him is that he’s capable of that kind of bold to near madness kind of move.
though the fact that he had vekter on his payroll at the time is interesting, and raises the question of if vekter is still on his payroll or not, and if so was his part in the attack on ARC swat ordered or not.
that is a good question to ponder.
I’d say it was unlikely, except for the fact that Vekter didn’t really participate in the fight. He hung back until the end, only defending Opal and attacking Vehemence in a rage. Given that Deus seems to be skirting the line between “anti-hero” and “villain”, Deus COULD have known about it, and considered it a good opportunity to both help Archon justify itself and further his own unknown goals somehow.
He definitely doesn’t come across as someone who wants Archon to fail at this point in time. But having a mass brawl the day that Archon goes public, with most of the antagonists escaping capture after losing? That’d definitely get the public behind Archon, allowing more funding, probably encouraging more people to join (whether super or not), etc. And that seems like something Deus would benefit from, too.
“…doesn’t come across as someone who wants Archon to fail at this point in time.”
I should say so…After all, he’s getting tremendous sales from supplying Archon (& probably the overall military & other government agencies) with weapons & equipment. If he gives them an obvious reason to cut off his contracts, that’s a pretty sizable market he’d lose.
If Deus did stage the restaurant fight for publicity he probably did not know about Adrianna’s similar stunt at the bank because having two staged events in one day would seem, well, staged.
@Random_NPC: so far i’m not ranking Deus as any worse than a real life CEO. I mean yes he more or less took over a country, but there is a long history of first world companies doing terrible things to third world countries.
You know you’re judging quite a large number of people by the actions of a small minority of them…
According to the World Bank Data, there are only 45508 listed corporations in the world (most corporations which are large enough to actually be considered corporations capable of doing the type of stuff Deus is trying to do (rebuilding an entire country’s infrastructure) are far, far smaller a number. There’s a reason it’s called the Fortune 500. :) Of course I’m not counting the millions of small mom-and-pop and medium and small companies which wouldnt have enough of an imprint on economies to be listed on any sort of exchange or listing. :)
At some point Vekter got himself on Archon’s list of known super baddies to takedown, prior to that fight. If I were Deus and still had him on the payroll, I wouldn’t have deployed hin such a risky situation where the chances of him being caught were elevated. The Vekter of then and 10 years younger Vekter seem very different. Grizzled would be a word, and one that you would expect from someone who spent at least a decade or more knocking about Cold War era fallout conflicts as a Super Merc.
Actually, Vekter wasn’t on the list of baddies – just the list of known supers. Remember that Max and Arianna very heavily stressed the fact that there’s no need to register yourself as a super or be made to join the military or anything like that. They likely approached Vekter in the past, Vekter said no, case closed.
Also remember that Vehemence was subtly mind-controlling people, and that he approached Opal (and Vekter) first, because she’s “a chick with portals”. He could very well have approached Vekter when Deus was also in range.
Regarding DaveB’s comment on moral high ground:
It was thoroughly tested after WW2, by the american government but others as well, that the only requirement for a person to commit otherwise unspeakable evil, is the subjective perception of justification. This can be any authority figure if perceived as such, starting by some guy wearing a lab coat to a full blown general, or, I dont know, the believe that somebody with red hair must have come straight from hell due to drinking herbal tea.
In the end the intend is all that matteres, such as the intend to defend ones country and family.
Because the outcome tends to be rather difficult to explain and doesn’t really say if someone is a good or bad person.
That said, I am still unclear about what to think about Deus.
The human mind really is both very complex and very simple.
“The human mind really is both very complex and very simple.”
In and out of this topic, that’s a brilliant and insightful thought. I just want to thank you for typing and sharing it.
The funny thing about intent deciding the evil/good debate, is that in some cases, no side is evil. Actually, probably in most cases, since everyone believes they are justified in their actions
The way I see the good/evil divide has to do more with the balance that allows the universe to exist; no matter where we’ve looked in the universe, the whole thing depends on a balance between Order & Chaos.
Each interacting with the other to allow matter & energy to exist in focused/directed amounts. Order is stability, structure & substance, but when it’s too strong also causes stagnation. Chaos manifests (best description I have) as “the only constant is Change.” It can break down structure & recycle substance into other things, but when it’s too strong, Chaos literally rips apart everything into a non-definable state of non-existence. As each Primary Force interacts with the other, there’s a balance achieved.
To me, the good/evil paradigm is when someone tinkers (or otherwise mucks around) with that balance between Order & Chaos…Indinge had to cause a LOT of Chaos to become dictator, but Deus is trying to restore some Order, even if it means killing the cause of the Chaos. Of course, Dues also has to cause a limited amount of Chaos (in that room) so that some Order can be imposed, but what the hey, they’re BOTH mucking around with the balance to achieve their goals.
Dang it, didn’t work.
Obligatory link.
https://www.dominic-deegan.com/view.php?date=2005-04-11
What you are referring to is primordial evil, that which disturbs the balance between light and dark, birth and destruction, the base requirement for life to prosper.
If I dare refer to the St@r W@rs universe: The Jedi safeguarding what is and can become, the sith destroying what is and was, both essential parts in the cycle of life.
But neither the Jedi who live for others nor the Sith who live but for themselves really take part in life itself. That is reserved for those in the middle, those living in the grey, where transition takes place. ;-)
It’s funny you should mention WW2 in that anecdote. Because in the Nuremberg Trials the defense of “I was just following orders” saw a lot of people hung.
… which is the very reason they researched the psychological mechanism at work; they tried to understand how on earth anybody could possibly justify commiting crimes as hideous as done under the rule of the third reich.
The answer shocked everybody to the core and therefore is shunned by most … .
I don’t know if this is what you mean, but that reminds me of a test I heard about.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment
That’ll be the one – the best known version anyway.
there is no such thing as ‘overly prepared’
Very few super-[STATUS TO BE DETERMINED] have ever said after a fight, “Man, I wish I hadn’t brought all those minions and guns and ammo and Death Rays and sharks with laser beams on their freaking foreheads.”
I saw ‘ka-safety off’ and was about to declare it my favourite nonomatopoeia of this sequence but then I noticed the ‘other gun noises’ and now I’m conflicted.
I did the exact same thing. I love the sound effects here.
That’s a great one. This comic and Erfworld are both hard in the running for the best nonomatopoeias. “Plot!”
Geist Panik had a lot of those my favorite was “Whatever sound something like that makes”. https://i.imgur.com/lY5Aw6K.jpg
Both of those nonomons made me laugh.
Aw poop I can’t find it online. The domain’s gone. Is there an archive somewhere?
the WaybackMachine has it, but i’m ALMOST late for a car repair appt. so i can’t stay too long looking for it…. basically it’s one of a few sites that suck in as many websites as they can and just archive them…
I still have to say that my favorite nonomatopeia has to be “Invisible Grope.”
This comic reminds me of the backstory of City of Heroes, in which they indicate that there was a period of time in the late 20th Century where meta humans established super-powered PMCs. And, much like here, said super-powered PMCs were used to protect corporate interests.
I think this scene does a better job of showing how dangerous an opponent Deus and his company will be to an organization such as Archon, and just how misplaced Harem’s trust is in them. She says she helps Deus because she feels that Archon is too over-reaching for her tastes, but the sort of leadership Deus wishes to provide may not be as libertarian as she would hope for.
There’s a difference between a leader who says you shouldn’t or cannot do something and one who lets you do it while hiring assassins to kill you.
You believe Harem wants to join Deus? o_O
You’re assuming that Harem doesn’t know anything about Deus’ past. It may very well be that Harem approves of Deus doing things like this – taking down tyrants by force, with no fretting about legality or public image. She’s an ambitious 19 year old who joined the military (with all of her selves); it wouldn’t surprise me if she’s pretty gung-ho about that sort of thing.
As for “it’s not a musket”… Hunting rifles from Izhevsk are amazing. Both in mechanical and artistic way, their engraving school is really something.
And that paneling has been plastic since the 50ies anyway.
Some of the AK variants still use wood ‘furniture’. I, personally, think its one of their more aesthetically pleasing features.
It may not be a musket, but I do relish the idea of being able to hold the gun without burning my hand. Guns with a high rate of fire tend to get HOT, and the wood “furniture” serves as a cheap, and easily replaceable insulator.
I’m kinda partial to the ‘ol Blunderbus. You don’t really need to aim it, you just need a compass heading.
You mean, you CAN’T really aim it.
It’s a form of “point & click” that precedes the internet & mouse interface.
I prefer rocks
50m across
from high orbit
Ah, but you still need to aim it, considering the range from orbit-to-ground. Your aim has to be precise enough to account not only for the size of the rock, but also to make sure the impact crater could still hit the target.
But rocks are cheap & are easily obtainable from the Asteroid Belt, so you can still practice a bit. With a computer-based targeting system, the “hunt & peck” method is still viable.
That’s true. But contrary to popular belief, rocks are not free…
i know that you’re referencing the universe of Warhammer 40K with the Tech Priest and Magna-melta’s, but is that from a book, or game material, or did you just make that up? either way it’s a pretty cool bit of writing…
What’s so bad about wood anyway?
It’s lighter than metal and more readily available than plastic parts in many areas of the world.
Need a new stock? There’s a log, here’s a knife, go at it.
Vecter stance there totally reminds me of this fan video about “Blasto, the Hanar Spectre”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGldy-ABbsw
The AK-47 doesn’t have to be good looking to do what its meant to do. It was designed to be practical, durable, simple and, most of all, reliable. The AK-47 is easy to maintain and easy to use. And when its internal mechanism does get rusty or corroded, it will still fire 30 rounds of damage. Plus, the laminated hardwood of the stock can be used as blunt instrument with an elbow strike.
It doesn’t matter if its not aesthetic to the eyes, it has an iconic image that easily be recognized as the epitome instrument of war.
That’s… kinda his point: it doesn’t need the wood panelling
Wood is a lot durable than plastic or polymer. Wood is much cheaper to acquire rather than manufacture any synthetic alternative. Also, wood makes a fine heatguard. It has good insulation to disperse thermal energy. And in a prolonged firefight, it helps prevent the metal from warping to allow continued use of the rifle.
Correct in all counts
While wood is cheap, easy to source, and easy to shape with primitive tools it’s not more durable than a good composite material. Nor is wood furniture cheaper when you’re working with large volumes.
Wood furniture is more limited in how it can be shaped while maintaining sufficient strength. Laminated wood is better than massive wood in this regard, but modern polymer composites is far superior in this regard.
The thermal properties of wood isn’t that impressive either. Sure dry wood is a good insulator, but it’s not very hard to design composite furniture that is just as good in this regard.
Now I’m not saying that wood furniture is a bad thing. Good quality wood furniture both feels good and looks great, and old surplus furniture can provide a sense of history, but on a new gun directly off the assembly line and intended for personal defense, military use, or (and I hate this word) operators (when did we stop calling then mercenaries?) “plastic” furniture is a better choice.
Please don’t forget the context? In 1947, wood stock was simply cheaper to produce than a plastic one, with comparable characteristics. And workers generally were more skilled in wood carving than plastic molding. And the machines for wood processing were more wide-spread, too.
Then it changed: plastic became cheaper and more wide spread, and its properties were improved, so it outplaced the wood. That’s it.
But where was it said we were talking about 1947? SK wrote: “Wood is a lot durable than plastic or polymer.” This was a blanket statement, and no mention was made about this being in regards to manufacturing methods and materials in the 1940’s.
1947 is relevant because that is the year the AK-47 was first produced.
I guess he just likes slicker looking guns. :)
Kinda depends on what you mean by reliable. It’ll keep firing, but the looser tolerances it has in manufacturing also means it simply can’t be as accurate as more advanced guns
At 100 to 200 yards it’s more than accurate enough for a “battle rifle”. For most people it doesn’t matter how accurate the rifle is beyond 200 yards if they are using iron sights. With some decent glass it will reach out to 400 yards and a bit beyond that. With the average AK pattern rifle you won’t be making head shoots at 400 yards, but aim for the chest and you’ve got a good chance to score a hit, with a decent sight installed.
Is it as accurate as “more advanced guns”. Well no, but the differences are smaller than what many believes, and proven reliability makes up for a lot. When the fecal matter intersect the air agitation device there will be a human holding that rifle, and the majority of those are far less accurate than the rifle they are holding.
I’ll be glad with this flashback is over. The tropes and stereotypes are starting to get to me.
Other than that, love the comic.
Which flashback are you talking about?
Oh, and the entire webic, from the start, has been about ‘tropes’ and ‘stereotypes’ and flipping them so many ways to Sunday they don’t know which way is Yellow
That is a very interesting way of putting it. I like it
i am calling the guy on the second floor gallery as “Evil Blue Kamen Rider.”
i loved the vote incentive!
now that you are bringing it up Maxima’s history as a soldier who does kill, i am hoping that in the fictional super world, your war in Afghanistan involved a lot less of the US Marines and other forces raping local women, which was one of the main motivations of locals who joined al qaeda (or they saw the US in general as malicious colonizers). Maxima now does show restraint in killing people during a super duel. we don’t know much about Maxima during her time overseas, other than she got drunk while upside-down flying. did Maxima pew pew villages that happened to be sheltering enemy supers?
You got any facts to back up those claims?
I don’t know what your “source” is, but the reverse is true. Al Queda and their ilk are the ones doing the raping, all in the name of Islamic law. This is reported by most if not all the news agencies in the world, and proudly BRAGGED ABOUT by Al Queda, Isis, Bokka Rhaton, etc.
Maxima didn’t engage in any action against civilians and very little against enemy soldiers directly, unless they were currently engaged against allies forces. She did strafe a bunch of minefields and take out jets, tanks and artillery though.
Her actions didn’t really affect the behavior of any soldiers not in her vicinity though. Soldiers sometimes do awful things no matter which side they’re on. If they find themselves in a situation with all the authority and no supervision and are angry, tired, pumped up on adrenaline, it’s practically inevitable that some will turn to the dark side. It’s the price of doing war with humans against humans.
For some of the soldiers, I imagine knowing they’ve got the most badass super on their side would help relieve some of that frustration/make them rethink their ideas to abuse captives. But yeah, it’d still happen. Some people are just that corrupt and would’ve done it to anyone, if they could’ve gotten away with it. Others would be influenced by the perception of those captives as “the enemy”, who deserve whatever is done to them.
I could see there being a time in Max’s past when she learned that American soldiers were committing such atrocities and she took them down herself, though. But I don’t get the impression that you’ve got anything like that in mind.
Sometimes its best to leave such issues alone, and simply proceed with your comic as if they didn’t exist
Monstrous thing to say there man. If you said it for attention, you might want to knock it off. Accusing anyone of rape is a bad thing if you can’t prove it.
Ah, that was like possiblity #17 for Deus to avoid killing Ingene: He can just remove him from power at gunpoint. One less evil point, since it seemed like straight up murder on the last page.
Although the question still remains, why the charade of promising more than the king could believe?
Self Justification? Deus apes a comic book villain, but he’s clearly intelligent and self-aware. It’s probably impossible for him to think of himself as evil, the cape twirling is sort of an elaborate joke. He probably thinks of himself as Veidt from The Watchman and imagines that at some point the heroes will be gathered around going “He’s right. All we did was fail to stop him from saving the world.”
He’s probably in for a series of surprises, but we’ll see.
It WAS straight up murder, Deus was more than protected from anything Ingene could do and the guy wasn’t doing anything to justify Deus’ orders to have him killed. In regards to Ingene not believing him well it’s not Deus’ fault that his being upfront about what he was wanting to do was distrusted, the guy was right that Deus has unspoken motivations and plans that he wouldn’t approve of or go along with. Deus makes it quite clear here that he was going to have the man killed eventually even if he had agreed to things initially because he’d eventually get too greedy and problematic to deal with.
While the guy was clearly a villain with enough blood on his hands to warrant executing Deus does it because he’s removing an impediment to his plan and just notes that he recognized that the guy deserved to die anyway so killing him isn’t just to his personal benefit but to the rest of the world as well. Deus is a pragmatic villain, likely an ‘even evil has standards’ trope member, he’ll kill when he finds it necessary but deplores the bloody monsters like warlords whose greed and bloodlust harms the majority who don’t deserve it.
What was straight up murder? Who died? I must have missed something!
Not that if Deus had killed or will kill Indigo-girl that I’d feel that he was not justified in any event. You say Deus did it (even though he has not yet) because Indigo-girl was in the way of his plans. I like Deus’s explanation better: Indigo-girl is a horrid individual. A textbook despot. His regime thrives on terror, death squads, etc.
But unless Indigo-girl isn’t done with his heart attack and actually dies, it looks at present as though all Deus did was to provide an opportunity for regime change. And a fairly peaceful regime change at that. The son might be more willing to implement the reforms necessary to make his state a prosperous one.
He took Indinge to high place and showed him the kingdoms of the Earth. “All this will be yours if you worship me.” And Indinge said, “Kill this fool.” And Indinge joined his ancestors shortly afterward.
I like that Vekter knows that not all the guns may be loaded, so he cycles the actions to make them so. And then gets an unspent round bouncing off his dome from the lone guard who actually kept his weapon ready.
It also gives us an idea of the limitations of Vektor’s power. He could not tell that that particular pistol had a round in the chamber, while some powerful telekinetics in the comics could have done so. And he was not able to deflect it before it hit him, indicating Vektor might not be terribly good at responding to a surprise attack
For a moment I thought that Kivuli was the gun’s nickname, just like Vera.
I believe Maxima only uses lethal force as a last resort and I hope Dave only shows it a couple of times.
Perhaps Deus plans to make a evil counterpart to Archon (Dark Archon? Darkchon?) where every member is a counterpart of the heroes.
I believe he showed that when Max blew off “what’s-his-bucket’s” arm. The violence absorbing guy.
Own thoughts: So far, not sure what to make of Deus, Could be an anti-hero, could be an anti-villain/noble demon. Time will tell!
NEED EDIT BUTTON BADLY!
he should that = showed Maxima uses non-lethal. Painful and potentially life changing, but not immediately lethal, like say a headshot would have been. Probably.
I’d totally forgotten about what Vektor looked like since the restaurant fight. Didn’t recognize him at all until I saw the Who’s Who. I wonder if this means that his portal making partner Opal was also working for Deus back then.
Meanwhile, I have to wonder if this invisibility effect is the same sort of thing X was using back at Archon. If so, we know Sydney can see through it of she grabs the right orb at the right moment, but if not . . .
Wouldn’t it be interesting if – as all of this is set around about ten years ago, if I’m remembering correctly – that person up on the balcony who was using the cloaking power turned out to be X himself . . . herself . . . itself . . . whatever.
I have to admit that I thought the son and his bodyguard got shot in panel four at first. The absence of bullet holes in their shirts gave me pause, but didn’t dissuade me from this. It was only when I scrolled down a little more to see Vektor showing off that I realized I was wrong. :)
Beat me to it. Who do you think Chummy Ninja might be?
So what stands out to me on this page is that apparently, Vektor worked/works for Deus.Does that mean Deus had a hand in the battle royal? Did Vektor manage to quit working for Deus? This seems like a job where you couldn’t exactly turn in a resignation letter and retire peacefully
Besides that, the guy in panel 6 most intrigues me. In a room full of mostly practical, albeit themed, tactical gear, he is wearing a full face mask and a cloak/cape. And he’s standing on the balcony. Gotta be one of Deus’s heavy hitters.
Remember what Sydney said back at the restaurant fight when it was pointed out to her that only one of the people present was wearing a cape. It meant the character was either an arch villain or a huge dork. Death Toll proved to be a bit of a dork, but I suspect this new person is going to be more arch villain.
could very well be.
Especially if “his” power is Light Manipulation, not just invisibility.
If you unequivocally need to show you have the upper hand, you might as well have 5 upper hands!
Just a quick comment because I know Dave likes to get the gun details right. The AKMs are selected to semiautomatic, not fully automatic.
Unlike western designed weapons where the selector goes from SAFE to SEMI to AUTO the AK series goes from SAFE directly to AUTO and then to SEMI. They were designed to be used in mass infantry assaults by conscript infantry so automatic fire is the default. The selector lever on the side should be pointed between the bolt and the trigger for automatic fire.
Another bit of trivia. The selector on an AK series is kind of noisy, making a clack sound when it is moved. This sound can travel a bit and wS given the name “a k clack” in Vietnam. Hearing it was sometimes the only warning of an ambush.
Thanks for the info. All the guns on the page are actually 3D models I found on the internet for free (since I don’t have a team of people to make them for me). I still had to ink and do the wood texturing on them. I think I could pop them in Blender and move the selector if I need to on a future page but it obviously wasn’t plot critical for this one.
Not a problem. Apparently my super ability is OCD attention to firearm details. For example I get annoyed when I notice on TV shows and movies when someone fires a handgun and the slide locks back because they only gave the actor one blank round to fire. :)
Suspect that a large slice of your TV & movie -watching time (however little or much that may be) is spent in a state of annoyance. I get the impression that gun usage is one of many things that entertainment media tends to get more wrong than right.
Between the never-dry clip and the no-recoil rapid fire, I’d agree. We won’t mention the gangsta-sideways hold. EVER. Or the two-gun kid, unless done purely for suppression purposes. The two-gun kid plus sideways hold is RIGHT OUT. Hospitals full of gang-bangers with broken wrists would be a hilarious spoof, however.
I don’t recall seeing the slide lock open after the first round, ever, but I’m not surprised it happens. I am a bit impressed when I do see a slide locked open after the actor fires off what approximates a full clip, and then needs to eject that clip and reload another. Verisimilitude helps immersion immensely.
Deux is obviously a proponent of the maxim that “If you find yourself in a fair fight, you’re doing it wrong.”
Rule #1 of fighting,
He who wins makes the rules
rules 2- deleted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty5bXad0dZI
ok, Two things…
1) did Vekter Escape? wasn’t he incapictated/incarcerated during/after the Vehemence battle?
and 2) is Deus rocking a Trinity Tie Knot?
This is a flashback to much earlier than the current flashback, long before Vekter’s fight that we recently saw. That’s years into his future from what you see here.
WOG says the intro was a flash forward.
To Dekwa:
(1) This is supposed to have happened something like 10 years before the main action in the comic.
(2) Yes, he is. As a matter of fact, he always has :)
Oh right, forgot that…
And Yeah… My superpower is obviously NOT observationele… ;)