Grrl Power #384 – Trope troubles
Ah yes, a 12 panel comic, just like old times… :/
As some of you expected, Sydney does indeed have a room on the base. I don’t show the layout very well here, but it’s basically a small-ish room, like 10×10 with a desk, comfy chair and probably some shelves, plus a smaller room that’s barely big enough for a bed and closet. No bathroom as there’s one down the hall, so it’s like a two room sub-efficiency. Certainly compared to the average military recruit, she’s being treated like god damned royalty, but the reason for this setup again goes back to the fact that supers are harder to recruit and retain, given they are enormously valued elsewhere, and in jobs that rarely have them getting shot at. Sure, some of them are there because they’re sold on the national pride/defense, honor/duty stuff that attracts many people to be soldiers, and would still be there with more spartan pay and accommodations, but some of them wouldn’t. I’m not sure how strongly Sydney’s desire to be a superhero would be able to counter having to barrack with 5 snoring Harems, the bunk above her straining precariously under Anvil’s weight, lusty noises coming from Dabbler’s corner of the room, etc.
This pampering will of course make some people in the other branches think of Arc-SWAT as a bunch of soft baby celebutards. Frighteningly powerful soft baby celebutards sure, but some people have a very Klingon view of toughness. The more rigorously you avoid creature comforts, the tougher you are. “One time I had to sleep on a pile of jagged rocks and the only thing I had for a pillow was a boiling hot engine manifold, and the only thing I had for a blanket were my own disemboweled intestines!”
Ok, the Klingons don’t go that far, but the TNG episode where Riker did a stint as first mate on a Klingon ship as some sort of exchange program, and they gave him a hard time over how soft his bead aboard the Enterprise probably was, so he was all “I’ll sleep on your metal slab of a bed with literally block of metal for a pillow no prob cholo.” Personally I would have brought the fluffiest fucking blanket 24th century science could create, then when they made fun of me for being soft, I’d be all “ah, you got me!” but when I’d inevitably have to kick someone’s ass for whatever since that’s how it works on Klingon ships, I’d remind them of how soft I was and make him go cry in the corner. You ever notice how the shows’ main character can pretty consistently beat the stuffing out of Klingons? Starfleet Krav Maga of whatever they use must be pretty good, cause it happened all the time. In an episode of DS9, Klingons tried to take over the station, and Cisco, Kira and Dax (maybe one or two others) just shellac the Klingons in mostly hand to hand combat, even though they’re the warrior race and supposedly much stronger than humans. The worst that happens is Kira gets stabbed in the arm or something and I guess Dax’s hair gets kind of messed up. Yeah, I know they have script immunity, but they still could have pulled through by a much narrower margin.
But I digress. Anyway, as Maxima says, when they’re not on duty they’re on call, and even though Sydney bargained to be able to keep working at her shop for a limited number of hours, in an emergency she’d still have to respond. “Guys, I know you want to buy that new polystone bust of Maxima, but there’s a meteor…”
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And now Syd won’t get even a second of actual sleep.
‘Sleep like the wind!’ would be a handy super power.
Considering some of the foods she eats, she does that on a regular basis :P
This time she will wake to sirens and an evacuation order because ARCHON-HQ has gas detecting sensors you can’t disable simply by removing the batteries :D
Jayessell said sleep like the wind, not sleep with the wind.
Sleep like a leaf on the wind!
Watch how I snore!
This comment system really needs “like” buttons… XD
Almost as much as it needs an edit button…
After thinking about it, Screw That! There has been some epic posts in the past that wouldn’t have survived an edit button.
Not a good idea, given what happened to Wash right after he said that… :P
To soon
Sydney must use a conditioner, her hair is so shiny.
Or, she simply brushes and combs it (if you had said ‘full of volume and bounce’…)
Well played Max!
Sydney: “That was super mean!”
Don’t be silly! That’s just her playing along with your games, Syd.
Panel 8: They’re coming very close to breaking the 4th Wall there…
:P
Not as close as Sydney came to breaking wind in the first panel :P
First off, the orbs following and still wobbling in spirals was an excellent touch; it really conveys the motion and momentum of everything having to keep up with Sydney. (They are not precognitive mind-reading orbs, and probably have a top speed at which they can be ‘flung’ by her will.)
Second…that “nerdgeek” / “nerdnerd” is CUTE. Grrr. I am now ‘shipping Sydneon (Sydney/Leon).
Third, still in love with Maxima for being able to be a nerdgeek type strongly enough to connect with Sydney, to tease her, etc, while still being a badass military officer.
Also, did Sydney remember to bring her meds with her for the day? Because she otherwise will have an “interesting” time when she wakes up. Or should I say, everyone else will have an “interesting” time because of the adderall being absent in her system.
Sydneon would be the weirdest Eeveelution.
The POWAR of such a combination/evolution would be like the equivalent of a grenade packed with pure SuperNerdery, and could collapse 4chan chat channels from sheer verbal pwnage. (Thankfully, Syndeon would use their powers for good. Mostly. If Eon doesn’t let Sydn get distracted or side-tracked.)
…Nah, I’ll just ‘ship ’em, not combine ’em in unholy amalgamation. Leon Scoville has a nice ring to it, don’cha think? XD (…”Run, Leion, run!!”)
*Leon
Sydneon – the Insanity Pokemon
Electric/flight types
Sydneon has the ability to hack into any computer system as long as it remains focused. when unfocused however, it has a tendency to be easily distracted & can be seen flying off in random directions, performing unpredictable actions…
I’d say that the infirmary would be able to provide her meds.
If the pharmacy does not regularly stock them, they will be added to regular complement very soon.
…By tomorrow, if not sooner. The sooner they do, the less tranquilizers they’ll have to provide for anyone who comes into social contact with Sydney.
“You have 30 minutes to provide that girl her meds, or she spends the rest of the day working with you!
Done.
XD awesome threat…
That type of threat is only effective if they are aware of what Sydney is like (which is not likely since they’ve never met Sydney…She was recruited less than 48 hours ago), or if that threat had been carried out at least once (and it would only take once) before now. Then & only then would they understand the magnitude of the threat.
;)
Nonsense.
Sydney came into the public eye cursing and tongue-flipping bad guys into submission. That video (easily available over social media) should discourage anyone who thinks spending time with her long term when she is (more) mentally volatile.
Daphne knows where Sydney lives. She could pop in for a quick ‘extraction’ if needed.
Over the comms:
Daphne: “OK I’m in the bedroom. What am I looking for?”
Sydney: “Look in the dresser drawer. There should be a blue bottle.”
Daphne: “You have My Little Pony underwear?”
Sydney: “Not that drawer!”
Daphne was at her store, not her apartment…
There was a time that the US Military used issue amphetamines to fighter pilots and other people that had to do things that required being awake and aware for a long period of time. They may still for all I know.
And given that once something gets added to a list of things that a unit has to have OR ELSE it’s almost never removed, stands to reason that they might have a bottle or case gathering dust in the corner of the sick bay.
The orbs changed order between the 1st panel and the rest of the page though. Notice how the purple forcefield one is in between the two red ones (PPO and unknown)? In all the other panels, the red orbs are adjacent. Looks like forcefield and unknown switched places…
/pedantic
Sydney might keep a dose or two of her meds on her; she isn’t in denial about needing them, and she’s in favor of preparation even if not particularly good at it. Also, Archon found out about her prescription before recruiting her; I’d expect that if Archon HQ didn’t have it in stock already, they placed an order for prompt delivery as soon as Sydney signed the paperwork.
and here i was more worried about her underwear for tomorrow. but yes, meds are very important. so important i usually keep a one-day pill plan in a keychain capsule. idk how quickly Archon could get ADHD meds, since they are a controlled substance. as in if you don’t get to the pharmacy when you say you will, they put it back in the safe and you have to come back another time for them.
The Archon medic would have to have high clearance just to work on all the supers. A government doc on a government base should be able to get ANY meds sent to the base with a few keystrokes. And due to the fact that it is a combat trauma ward serving people who are on call 24/7 there would be somebody with the clearance to get controlled substances (i.e. morphine) 24/7.
I take narcotic pain killers (Norco and Morphine Sulfate), and I never have a problem getting my script filled.
you really think max hasn’t had her medical looked at and a back up dose prepared the arc-doc?
“I am now ‘shipping Sydneon (Sydney/Leon).”
It’s a good thing that you put “Syd” as the first part…As Sydney would want Leon to change HIS last name if they get married.
;)
“Or should I say, everyone else will have an “interesting” time because of the adderall being absent in her system.”
At least Sydney could never be accused of letting the team get complacent…About anything.
They’re nerds.
They just might take a superheroic name.
Sydney and Leon StarKiller, or Sydney and Leon Henshin-Sentai?
No, Sydney wants to keep her own last name. she’s proud of it & has been upholding the family name for quite a few years…Note the last panel https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/194
I can TOTALLY see them color-coordinating the wedding party to be a Super Sentai. Cummerbunds and ties for the guys (or gals who want to wear tuxes) and matching bridesmaids’ dress or bridesquires’ kilts. Each pair in a different color of red, green, yellow, pink, blue. And for the wedding party pic, they’re all in henshin poses….
I’m now quite enjoying the mental image of Max in a tux.
You forgot the Silvers,Golds,.etc for the 6ths
Don’t forget her ocp! No female with that much distrust of her ovaries should risk skipping it…
Interesting seeing the Star Trek references in the comments. Was halfaway thru reading this when the comic got posted.
#IStandWithAxanar
I’m guessing they fear a better movie being made by these people then what they have been making so far in the new star track.
It’s a complicated issue that boils down to “Paramount owns the property and decided that these guys were getting too far from ‘fandom’ and too much into ‘commercial’ so they’re shutting it down.”
It’s a lot like what happened to the “Adult Wednesday Addams” YouTube series.
Paramount is trying to rebrand Trek into a Star Warzy Action/adventure franchise and here these pesky fans are making their own version that is closer to the spirit of the Original Series than anything Paramount has made in over a decade. Damned inconvenient when you’re trying to.get everyone to forget about what made Trek great in the First place. And considering they didn’t go after all the other Star Trek fans productions, I think Paramount is.pretty boned.
No, Anaxar is completely boned. Paramount owns the property. Period. Even if Paramount hasn’t taken official notice before now, they have all the legal right to say “No, you can’t do this.”
Plus Anaxar went about five steps too far from “Fandom” into “Commercial” – they got cocky and it’s going to cost them.
If they want to continue, they need to rework it into their own universe so they can tell the stories they want.
Related.
Offering basic, deluxe, and collector edition Blu-Rays as tiered rewards for their Kickstarter probably destroyed any credibility they had that it wasn’t a commercial venture.
That’s what Dave Sim said – you got a great Superman story line – DON’T sell it to DC, just create a character everyone knows is Superman and do it from there. Alan Moore did that with Supreme.
Just for the record, if you “Trademark” something, you MUST fight every use of it by people who are using it with out your explicit permission. There is no “fair use” exemption in the trademark laws.
People often get “Trademarked” and “Copyrighted” mixed up.
To be fair, so did I until I ended up on the mailing lists for writing both the Open Game License and the d20 license. The first covers material under copyright. The ‘d20 license’ was a Trademark license and has been pulled by Wizards of the Coast. Which is why you see things with OGL on the cover, because a lot of people still think of OGL material as being D&D 3.X related, even if other game systems, like Traveller, have also had parts of it being released under the OGL.
Well said.
Lot’s of stuff out there, made by fans, some are even making moneys from it. Low key I grant ya, so, why the sudden that’s our stuff? Why not make a deal? Paramount could get some cash from others work at little or no risk? Why the STOP it now lawsuit?
If Paramount was a person, that’s probably what would happen, at least up to a point – MZB (read about it in my link above) gotten bitten by a fan and had to step on all of them. NO ONE was happy about it.
Since Paramount is a corporation (and they’re not people, my friend) they have a different response to things.
Well that’s not true.
Regardless of her writing talent, it is good to hear of a pedophile experiencing pain.
I am happy about it. Others are too, and for the same reason.
Just because Paramount hasn’t put a stop to it long before now does not negate the fact that they are the owners of the product that someone else is making money off of
As has been pointed out, Axanar is actually the one that is boned. The best that they could hope for was a “Badkarma” situation and that probably went out the window with the Kickstarter.
Long story short for BadKarma: In the period around Episode 1’s release when Lucasarts temporarily went off their rocker with copyright, they served a UT mapper named BadKarma a C&D because he had created a number of UT maps that were based off Star Wars sets from the four movies that were out at the time. He took them down for a day while discussing what to do with his family. Then he decided to put them back up with a full explanation of his non-profit status and pictures of the C&D letter. Lucasarts, suddenly looking down the barrel of an irate UT community (It was bigger then than it is now) planning to boycott their product, decided that it wasn’t worth losing that much revenue over a few UT maps that were being distributed for free and backed down.
The Axanar people are hoping for that outcome. After all, plenty of people are making Cafepress shirts with IP that they don’t own. The catch is that, unlike free UT maps or even T-shirts that make a person a trifling amount, Axanar has long since passed the 1 million mark in terms of revenue and, as such, has sailed past the limit that makes a Paramount lawsuit fiscally unwise. I wish Axanar luck because I’d like to see the finished product but, in the end, the Axanar people are almost certainly boned.
The reason Paramount hasn’t stopped all the other fandom books/ movies is because they were produced at the creators expense, was clearly fan made, and distributed for free. Anaxar the creator is getting PAID to make it which means it ISN’T fan made, it’s professionally made (even if it’s fan quality).
The whole problem boils down to, the only people that are allowed to make a profit from Star Trek is Paramount.
Umm, the lawsuit was filed by both Paramount AND CBS, who BOTH own the property. Axanar is fucked, and rightly so.
Very true.
And most of us are saying “Paramount” as they are a recognized owner.
https://torrentfreak.com/movie-studios-sue-fan-funded-star-trek-spin-off-151231
Alert Dave! Person promoting illegal activity on your comic site!
Sorry, Azrael. That link does go to TorrentFreak, but it doesn’t go to a torrent; instead, it goes to an article about “movie studios suing the fan-funded Star Trek spin-off” (just like the link says).
The article just happens to be on TorrentFreak, but it’s not illegal activity. For that matter, even if it was a torrent, how woud you know it’s an illegal one? You obviously didn’t even check. Some people release their material for free via torrent. For example, Radiohead has released at least one album via torrent. Thom Yorke released his second solo album via torrent. Therefore, just because something is a torrent does NOT automatically mean “illegal activity”.
Also also, you DO want superheroes to have individual quarters, for two reasons:
1. Powers can be incompatible. For example, Fire & Ice/Water should not bunk together. Mold and mildew are serious health hazards, and those two powers will produce a lot of steam/humidity/condensation.
2. Personalities can be incompatible…and the owners of said personalities, when they are supers, are essentially armed 24/7 with the equivalent of thermonuclear handgrenades. It’s one thing to draw glasses on your roomie’s face while s/he sleeps to cheaz them off/get back at them for eating your secret candy stash. It’s another thing entirely when they can reduce all your gear to dust with a superpowered glare in retaliation. While you’re wearing it. Giving you second-degree burns.
The only issue with Super Power Prank fights is building damage…. Second Degree burns are draw on glasses to supers..
Remember that most supers in this universe don’t have super armour
Or even Plot Armour (Batman doesn’t even leave his closet without donning his, specially embroidered by Alfred :P)
*pokes where the ‘like’ button should be*
That tickles :D
Which is fully prooved by the eternal prankings between the Thing and The Human Torch… I think half the renovations of the Baxter Building were due to the fallout from their conflicts…
Yeah, the FF HQ is constructed with two different purposes in mind…High level structural endurance or light, easily-replaced partitions. The different floor levels are mostly just one huge room, built VERY sturdy, whereas most of the different labs are separated by light partition walls…Reed CLAIMS that it’s because his different experiments require different space considerations & made that setup so that the layout of each floor is mutable enough to account for it.
What Reed DOESN’T say is that Johnny & Ben’s shennanigans are frequently causing the need for “impromptu redecorating.”
Or like what happened to me when I was in the Navy. It was 0300 ( 3 A.M.) I was in my rack sleeping when one of my barracks roommates came back after having drunk the local bars closed. He thought it would be funny to grab me and try to drag me out of my rack. I threw him out the window which was next to my rack. I didn’t open it first.
2 makes sens, but 1? They’re not constantly cold/on fire. :T
Some people snore, some people talk in their sleep. Who’s to say FlameStar doesn’t run 140 degrees in her sleep and IceBoy doesn’t automatically make ice when hot.
It’s bad enough to engineer a bed that doesn’t get cooked (& maybe combust) on a nightly basis, but to engineer the furniture for a whole ROOM to withstand heat without also getting brittle from cold would be enough to drive engineers insane.
Thought insanity was a prequisite for Engineers :P
Buahahaha!
Really though, in my experience engineers tend to be more aware of the line between fantasy and reality than…say, artists are. So it depends on the definition. They definitely fall under the ‘danger to oneself and/or others’ category when they’re on an idea binge, they aren’t very good at keeping the ideas confined to paper…*remembers a friend’s attempts to use a hairspray can as the fuel for a rocket in college* They don’t PURPOSELY hurt others….they just aren’t very good at remembering anything but the ‘for SCIENCE!’ aspect of their projects. Good engineers really are a lot like sparks in the Girl Genius universe, personality-wise.
Thus the ‘insane’ part (or is ‘crazy’? can never remember which is which :( )
Heh. Got an engineer buddy who has a tough time with Suspension of Disbelief- he loves sci-fi, but can’t stand when they get the science wrong.
I know what you mean. I’ve learned to check my Suspension of Disbelief at the door, but I can nitpick just about every sci-fi movie. A good reasonably-recent example (that I’ve actually seen and not just heard about would be Pacific Rim.
In particular, the scene where Gipsy Danger (no, “Gipsy” is not a misspelling in this case) grabs a ship and starts using it as a club. IRL, the ship would break in half as soon as Gipsy removed it from the water. But since the movie was meant to be an homage to giant robot and kaiju movies (to the point that the alien monsters were even called Kaiju), you can file that one under Just Bugs Me.
Sure, there’s a few other nits (for example, I think it would take substantially more than eight VTOLs to pick up and move something the size of Gipsy… one physics professor calculated that it would take at least sixty-four), but for some reason the “ship as a club” scene bothered me more.
Or the scene in Battleship where the Missouri drops the anchor on one side to basically make it drift… that bugs me a lot because Physics Does Not Work That Way. Not with something as massive as a battleship with a displacement of 52,000 tons, anyway.
They were probably aiming to mimic one of Drake’s famous maneuvers, where he made his ship mimic the appearance of a slower merchant ship, and used dragging to slow it down, so it’s movement matched the look.
So the Spanish vessel thought they had a soft target they could take down, as a bonus to their own rich haul. Only to find, when they were too close to flee, that they faced the most dreaded privateer in the oceans.
That worked fine for a small wooden ship. Or an analogy. Not so well for a battleship though, as you say.
The only Engineering field that I’m aware of that requires insanity is Social Engineering…
“…also, I appear to have carmelized myself.”
I thoroughly expect someone,(med-tech, nurse, etc.) to approach Sydney with her meds sometime after she is yanked out of her sleep and heading for breakfast/roll call. I see Max making sure that issue is covered.
No doubt Archon will have already arranged someone to take over her prescription.
Not tonight though. Ritalin inhibits sleep
Yup, either that or there will be a bottle of her pills beside her bed (Maxi already twigged that the meds are wearing off so she would have already ensured there were a supply already and waiting)
They’d probably administer it by tranq gun…
From the next city over :P
Orbital cannon perhaps?
Is it me or did Max also visit the Barberanian?
Possibly, but it’s also more likely she has simply had a shower and washed her hair and hasn’t corralled it into her usual ‘meet the public’ hair, that, or she’s simply relaxing ‘after-hours’ and let her hair down
Awww, they’re cute together! (Yes, I mean both of them… never mind!)
Y’know, the few times I find Maxima tolerable, and even slightly likeable, is when she’s being a normal gal pal with Sydney :-D
Yup, they make a great pair of ‘besties’, even if that is the extent of it :D
Sounds like having Sydney around can actually be god for Maxima in the long run… yes, she can be an eternal pest testing Maxima’s limits on daily basis, but she also gives Maxima a chance to “geek-out” a bit and fall back on a more civil approach :-)
Sydney can be GOD for Maxima??? She’s not THAT powerful.
… oh wait did you mean good???
The Goddess of Geek/Nerdom!
Happy Not 2015 dear readers!!
May your 2016 be happy, folks!
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The New Year used to be celebrated on April 1st. People who forgot it was moved and celebrated on the wrong day were called April fools.
The first April fool prank was done by a ?Baron? known for huge New Year galas. The year they moved the date he sent out invitations for his gala without a date during March. When people showed up on March 31st he said “Why are you here? It’s not the New Year”
Greetings, from the future!!! I bring wishes of a Happy New Year to you all, & a message;
Anyone got any Energon goodies? I haven’t had any all year…? :P
No, no, no, New year already passed a couple of months ago at the end of October when we ritually destroyed and recreated the Universe.
I’m betting that Archon has it’s own pharmacy, along with it’s own Medical Staff, to handle all Medical needs, including Sydney’s meds. And Sydney probably has a spare Uniform on base. In the future she will probably keep spare clothes on base as well.
I really like how Maxima doesn’t try to change Sydney but plays along with her madness.
Madness? This. is. NERDHOOD!!!! (minus the spit :P)
And also missing the pit in which to kick someone.
1) They’ve already shown that there is a full combat trauma ward in the building. (the clinic where she got the eye-patch, they worked on the severed toe, and burst eardrums)
2) Her original uniform (I don’t remember if she’s gotten her custom fit one yet) was borrowed from somebody living ‘on base’, if she needs another she can just borrow it.
Remember that their “super tailor” told Sydney that her uniforms would be ready in about an hour…And that was yesterday. Sydney’s Archon-Issue has already been accounted for & doubtless delivered to her quarters.
Re DaveB’s comments on DS9
remeber:
The Klingons got hammered by Dax because they forgot Rule One: “Do not act incautiously when confronting little bald wrinkly smiling men”. Yeah, the Trill(s) weren’t wrinkly old men, but the symbiont was.
Cisco: well the wormhole alien thingys (aka “the prophets”) were known to rewrite reality to keep him alive no matter how tight he clung to the idiot ball. And Kira? She’s just that good :-)
Just so DaveM and DaveB know, it’s actually spelled Sisko. Cisco was just a kid, after all.
:D
He is also a git on that Flash TV show :P
Cisco is also a brand of enterprise (hurr) networking gear.
I actually thought, “Commander Cisco? Well, he DID route the Dominion forces…”
(of course, it’s been a long while since I’ve watched DS9 <_<)
Cisco wasn’t just a kid…He’s also a friend of mine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YllP22mVZQg
Do not forget the crisco.
They also had Odo. You know the shapeshifter who is essentially impervious to melee?
One thing I saw in that episode that kinda tweaked my fridge logic. Odo dodged a bat’leth swing. Why? He could have absorbed the blow, slithered up the Klingon’s arm, down his throat, and ripped all for of his lungs out.
Odo’s abilities were criminally underused.
Are you sure that episode wasn’t during the period when Odo had lost his powers?
The power loss thing happened at in the final episode of season 4. The Klingon invasion happened in the first episode.
Also Dax was revealed to be proficient in Klingon martial arts and Sisco was a champion wrestler at the Academy.
Ok, wasn’t sure, and TBH DS9 is not my favorite Trek, and I rather seriously dislike the whole Dominion War, I despise Section 31, so a lot of the later episodes are irritating to rewatch.
Since Odo was raised in the Alpha quadrant it’s possible/probable it just never occured to him to use his ability that way. (Or he did something similar when he was “Younger” and decided ‘NEVER gonna do that AGAIN!”)
Klingons don’t have super strength; it’s Romulans that do, being the same race as Vulcans, really. Hence probably the best scene in the 2009 reboot- the Romulan dangling kirk over the edge.
If Wikipedia is to be believed, then the Klingons are one of the strongest people in the Star Trek universe. Plus they have all sorts of organ redundancies and super strong bones and so forth to make them hardier and tougher. It seems a little odd to me that all of that could have evolved on it’s own and so I’m guessing there was some kind of genetic tinkering somewhere in their history.
Did you just refer to Wikipedia, accuracy and Klingons IN THE SAME SENTENCE?
Mornington Crescent!
What’s that mean?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mornington_Crescent_%28game%29
(TL:DR, It’s verbal Calvinball with a few actual rules (and a multitude of variations) )
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mornington_Crescent_(game)
Fake British TV Panel game from the late 70s. Naming random locations (particularly tube stops), with the apparent goal being to be the first to announce “Mornington Crescent,” but giving the appearance of complicated rules and strategy, while improv-ing the whole thing. It’s hung around at least in consciousness.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVszcAgsBxs
Thank you both. I hadn’t heard of this before. For improv, I go to Colin Mochrie and Ryan Styles on Whose Line Is It Anyway?
Well, yeah. Klingons, vulcans, humans, cardassians – all seeded by the same race, with a secret message written into thier dna
Doesn’t explain why every alien creature in the galaxy is stronger than us though, nor does it explain little tricks like Vulcan mind melds and Betazoid telepathy and so on. It seems to me that we got the short end of the stick in Star Trek.
Humans make up for it by being the cockroaches of the Universe (not counting the actual Space Cockroaches as seen in the first MIB movie :P)
Actually I like to think of humans more as a Virus or parasite than cockroaches of the universe. Agent Smith summed us up rather well in the Matrix.
Virus/Cockroach, both come down to being very difficult to fully eradicate and they spread everywhere the first chance they get :P
Yeah, the MIB had a Bug up their butts, fer sher…
supposedly we’re the best engineers and innovators. i guess because we’re so weak and squishy, we’ve had the greatest need to engineer TF out of everything, and quickly.
humans are supposed to be one of the smartest race’s in star track having gone from the first plane to faster than light travel in 160 years. and in only a few generations (pun intended) they went from the new kids on the block to a major superpower on equal footing with races that had bean around a hell of alot longer.
they were also the key players in getting a lot of the race’s to give up some rather xenophobic attitudes to from the federation
So you meatsacks are supposed to be the smartest race in this “Star Trek” thing, as well as “Jacks of all trades”? I’ve seen a few meatsacks that could prove that true, but I’ve also seen plenty who drag you’re collective IQ down more than a few points…
Wonder how Cybertronians would rate in there? For that matter, the way we blend in, who’s to say a few of us AREN’T already in there… }:D
That would explain my toaster…
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I’ll just leave this here. Say hi to toasty for me… :P
i feal i need to point out i said one of the smartest not the smartest. and humans are prity smart as a whole its just americans dragging the rest of us down
Klingons are strong.
Vulcans are logical.
Romulans are sneaky.
Cardassians are imperialistic.
Farengi are greedy.
Humans are the jack of all trades
We make for our lack of specialty by being decent at everything.
Dabblers In Spaaaaaace !
In one of the books it told why the Klingon where like they were (and some things from the movies support this). According to the story the Klingon were created by an extinct empire (the species that ran it is extinct) to be dumb (not a threat to leadership), rapidly multiplying/ maturing, powerful soldiers. They were created to be in the field by 15, officers by 25, and dead (from combat) by 40. In the original series a Klingon of 60 was deaf, withered, and nearly dead, while Scotty at 90 was approaching retirement.
Or still exist, but have already fled the galaxy due to the giant black hole at the center, depending on which source you read. And the reason that the Klingons we meet are all stronger than humans is simply because the ones we meet are all soldiers (or former soldiers), which tend to be the tallest, strongest, most fit specimens.
They do have civilians, if only because some of them are automatically disqualified from military service for one reason or another. In one story I read, one of the protagonists was disqualified simply because he had to wear glasses. Oh, and every Klingon in the military holds simultaneous ranks in the Navy and the Marines. (Well, the equivalent, anyway.) It’s just that most of them neglect one career track in favor of the other.
Makes it easy for them to punish incompetent Navy officers. If you mess up, but they think you deserve a chance to redeem yourself, they reassign you to a Penal Fleet (which is dangerous duty, but if you survive your tour of duty, you’re transferred back to your original position). If you really screw up, they reassign you to a position in the Marines. If you really really screw up, they order you to commit suicide.
Obviously, I read a different source than you did. I don’t know which answer is canonically correct, and we can’t exactly ask Roddenberry… though the fact that General Martok (DS9) didn’t die until 2393 (death by ritual combat), which would probably put him in his 70s or even early 80s, means one of four things:
(1) the idea that they would be “old and nearly dead by 60” is incorrect,
(2) Martok was an exceptional specimen,
(3) Klingon medical knowledge improved dramatically between the time of TOS and DS9, or
(4) some combination of the above.
That’s ONE set of explanations for how / why Klingons are what they are. Note that there are s-o-o-o goddang many. Much as I love most incarnations of Trek, self-consistency was NEVER its strongest point.
I much prefer the concepts used by John M Ford in his excellent novel ‘The Final Reflection’ (and also used in the Star Trek rpg produced by FASA.
This is true. Part of the explanation that I paraphrased above is what was stated in Star Fleet Battles. whose developers have access to all the material from TOS and the short-lived Saturday animated version.
The protagonist that I was talking about who was disqualified from serving beyond his mandatory term of service because of his eyeglasses was from the novel The IDIC Epidemic, written by Jean Lorrah. A mysterious plague hits a scientific colony that is populated by members of multiple races (including one Klingon… the protagonist I was talking about).
Well, HE doesn’t want to transmit information on the plague back to Klinshai, because Klingons seem to be immune, so he was afraid they’d use it to create a bioweapon to use against the Federation (this was still during the uneasy truce). The information leaked out anyway, thanks to an Orion who thought he could sell it to the Klingons for a profit.
In the end, not only did the Orion not profit, but the Klingons actually came to the rescue. Turned out the plague was the Klingon Imperial Plague, to which the Imperial race is deathly vulnerable to… so they couldn’t use it as a bioweapon. The reason Klingons were immune to it was because they were inoculated against it from birth. And the guy with the glasses got a telling off… “We would’ve been here sooner, but someone failed to submit his report in a timely manner.”
None of the novels are canon, but this was the only explanation for 17 years of why the Klingons seen in the original series had a very different appearance from the “Imperial” Klingons with forehead ridges, until the 4th season of Enterprise retconned it into the “Klingon augment virus”, which was lethal to Klingons for an entirely different reason… while it did give the victims enhanced strength and intelligence, it also caused personality alterations and eventually an agonizing death caused by neural system breakdown.
The information on Martok was from Memory Alpha, of course.
The IDIC Epidemic and its predecessor, The Vulcan Academy Murders, are two of the best star trek novels out there and for me should be considered as being canon along with Yesteryear from the animated series.
The 3 Klingon commanders seen in TOS, Kor, Kang, and Koloth. All appeared on DS9, well over 100 years of age, all three died in combat, not of age, though Kor was starting to show signs of what a human would call Alzheimer’s in his final episode. The former chancellor K’mpec had ruled the empire for over 70 years before his death by poisoning. Klingons are a very long lived species.
The Klingons do not have gods because they supposedly found them to be more trouble than they were worth . . . and killed them. Assuming they believed their creators were gods, does this mean they themselves made that empire extinct?
Riker probably trained specially with Worf to fight klingons for that posting, Dax has memories of similar combat – plus her regular holo-games, and Sisko has super-plot armour (The Sacrifice of Angels, anyone? ) linked to that ‘promotion’ he gets in the finale.
The only real surprise there then is Kira
Not really that surprising… Bejor has been at war most of her life, and she’s a Major, which is not a place you get under those conditions without seeing lots of combat.
To be fair, Dax had a symbiote that was chock full of delicious, Klingony memories marinated in about as much bloodwine as Curzon usually was, so she was pretty well versed in their combat techniques. Kira was a brutal resistance fighter who spent the majority of her life murdering for freedom and such, with any weapons she could get her hands on, in as filthy and vicious a way as she could, so she would be up to fighting off the Klingons.
And really, you just can’t compete with The Sisko. He punched Q. Picard never tried that, and got plagued by him for season after season; Janeway too. Never showed up again on DS9 though, did he?
Odo would cheat through shapeshifting shenanigans, Bashir was genetically enhanced enough that he could probably fight them if he really tried, and I seem to recall at least one episode of O’Brien visiting the holosuites dressed up like a viking. When it comes down to it, the only main cast members that wouldn’t really manage fighting them off would be the Ferengi.
Never figured out why they didn’t mount security turrets using the wall-piercing teleporting tritanium bullet gun technology. It would have solved a lot of problems.
Actually, Quark was ex-military and shown to be strong enough to crumble gold bricks with his bare hands. He also killed a few Jemhadar soldiers in different episodes. He tends to act cowardly, but he’s actually pretty badass when he decides to fight.
Jake would also have some problems as a fighter, which why he stayed civilian. Nog, on the other hand, join Starfleet and would have learned how to fight, even hand-to-hand with Klingons.
he also managed to get promoted, something Harry Kim never managed to in his entire run in Voyager
Hairy Quim did do something Noggin never did: he died, but got better :p
Something that Sydney doesn’t realize is that if she sleeps over at the base then she’s putting herself into position to be woken up with at the threatened 6am (or whatever it was). If she had managed to get home… it’s a little harder to drag her out of bed for a ‘fun run’ and all the pushups that are to follow.
Something you don’t realize: if Sydney did that, she would be in even more trouble (you forget, Maxi could get to Sydney’s place before Syd realised who was on the other end of the phone, and drag the entire bed to the track and set it on fire if need be)
*examines what I can of Sydney’s room*
Y’know, in San Francisco you could easily charge $3000 a month for that room and someone would rent it. And that’s even if utilities weren’t included.
No…that’s not a joke. I’m dead serious. Look at my face. ಠ_ಠ See? Dead serious.
Same in downtown New York. In Austin, it can range from $400 to $1200 depending on where in or around the city…
I don’t doubt about how serious you can get. Your avatar looks like he’s getting down to serious business too.
….I am so glad I live in a middle-of-nowhere state…how do people manage to make enough money to LIVE in places like that? Working every waking hour and getting less than six hours sleep a night?
I live a little south of San Francisco, and, year, pretty much. That and putting more people / appartment to defray the cost. When I was in college in the area, I knew someone who lived in a house with 40+ other people. They rented the house, and then sublet patches of floor big enough for a mattress with a couple feet on the side for your stuff. Rent was less than $100/mo per person that way. Really doubt it was legal.
My current 2 bedroom apartment is ~$2800/mo, no utilities, no washer/dryer, and won’t hold heat worth a damn, and was an awesome deal. And I’m outside of the city proper.
Can’t imagine trying to live here on minimum wage.
Dude… you want to talk about “dead serious”… yeah, here’s MY entry:
a few days ago on the radio up here in Seattle: Movin’ 92.5 FM, they have a morning segment called “Laser Stories” about weird stuff in the news … this time they had a story about a couple in San Fran that was renting out the CRAWLSPACE beneath their house for $500.00 a month… and they had a WAITING LIST!! for it too!
and they were completely up front about it too, “rough, uneven dirt floor, no heat, enough room to kneel but not stand up, can fit a futon type bed, and a small set of drawers, can use the house bathroom and kitchen, no heat, etc, etc…”
Y’all don’t want to know what you can rent for under $400 a month in Tulsa.
Of course, the down side is it’s in Tulsa, Oklahoma.
Good game stores in Tulsa.
Better ones in OKC.
My rent was $450 for a 1 bedroom all bills paid.
Was about 10 years ago but probably not much more than 500 now.
Rented a 12×15 efficiency in central Indiana for $400/mo, utilities paid. (Except cable and Internet)
My mother convinced me to move out. Regretted it ever since.
“You open the door to reveal a 10×10 room. There is a wild Sydney. She is-” (rolls dice) “- sleeping. There are orbs laying around her. You have initiate.”
“I close the door very quietly.”
“Roll vs stealth.”
(More dice rolling) “CRAP!”
(Dice rolls)
“The wild Sydney bolts upright, and screams ‘I’m late for the store!’ And runs past you; the orbs follow her.”
roll reflex for each orb to see if you dodge them all
And that you don’t get trampled . . .
Make a Fort save be morning breath (rolls dice (cringes)) DC of 35.
Ka-safe, idiot clone.
Obviously still asleep… No comic shops open at 6 AM…
MEANWHILE!!!
At the Legion of Doom…
Lex Luthor standing at the podium in the Legion of Doom Headquarters.
“So, considering how we can’t ever get anywhere against the Superfriends, what the hell are we supposed to do about Archon?!”
Grod: Most of them have little mental discipline. Their gold leader and that giant negro are tough to get a read on. Even that flighty martial artist of their has considerable mental defenses. The red-headed one with the fire powers does not know much, but she should be easy to control. For a man that claims to be invulnerable, it is pretty easy to get into the mind of Achilles. That new one with the orbs has no mental discipline whatsoever, but won’t think of any one thing long enough for me to understand what she is working on; she is impossible to control!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGQEAiZJMco
Sydney: “Smash cut to villains plotting something dastardly!”
She’s already proven that she can work the system, so maybe we should be happy that she can’t actually conjure up bad things as easily as she can good things.
meh, she just needs to drink a soda…
What I remember from my own days in the military was that the classic barracks scenario that you see in various movies only applied (at least in modern times) to when you were in basic or other similar training. After that it was mostly two or three person rooms, no bunks, one bathroom per room. As you got up in rank, you’d get your own room.
I love that she’s running so fast even the orbs can’t keep up…
Way to mess with sleep-deprived Sydney!
That’s the safest time to do so :P
Good to see you have made it into the New Year, have a Yorp Snack :D
Ooh, thanks.
*hic*
Woooo, 100% proof Snack, way to see in the new year!
Oh, hey there Yorp! I got a Christmas present for you, but couldn’t give it until you got back:
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Thanks, bud, and in my size too!
“and you do NOT want it to become a meteorite!”
Just be careful you don’t break your leg like ‘the wind’ Sydney.
I had to read it a second time before I realized they had actually changed locations between panels 3 & 4. On closer inspection, if nothing else, the carpet going from red to blue should have tipped me off. In my defense though, it’s early.
DaveB, I was reading your description of Sydney’s room and thinking “How did she get officer’s quarters? She should be bunking with the other female recruits and NCO’s.” Then I read the rest of the paragraph. Hmm, I wonder; do Heatwave and Mr. Amorphous share a room? Mind you, that is what Married NCO Quarters is for.
They’re not actually married, not yet anyway. Doesn’t mean they don’t share a room on occasion though.
Hmm, how would Mr. Amorphous sleep? In Odo’s bucket?
So, when they do marry, they’d be Mr. and Mrs. Amorphous? Seriously, when are we going to find out Mr. A’s real name?
They’re pretty lax about a lot of things in the first place (Enlisted + Officer) so they may even have rooms next to each other.
But, are they married or simply boinking?
you know, it’s possible to actually be in a romantic relationship without being married or just having sex :P just putting that out there.
Yeah, it'[s possible but it’s not promoting anything for Survival of the Species…
;)
I figure Star Fleet Academy is like West Point in that they have a rigorous pt and MA study EVERY SINGLE DAY.
Four to eight years of that would make ANYONE badass.
And to be fair they are at war with the Klingons every other decade so training against specifically Klingon fighting styles makes sense as well as against stronger people in general since humans are so weak in that universe.
Please explain how Reg Barclay graduated if that is how Starfleet Academy is supposed to be.
It’s not like that for every cadet. What they’re describing accurately describes the Tactical track, and possibly Command track, but Sciences, Engineering, and Medical aren’t pushed so severely in combat disciplines; they’re given their weapons competencies, and then allowed to specialize in their respective fields, because their minds are far more important tools in combat than their bodies will ever be.
wait. why is Max still awake? is she going around the base, tucking in random recruits like lost ducklings? because that would be adorable.
Max probably sleeps a bit less than others, and Sydney is definitely duckling status.
Max is near invulnerable and super damn near everything. A day of regular pt is a literal walk in the park for her. And she has extensive combat experience. So I would imagine getting less sleep than normal is nothing to her.
Are you saying that dealing with Sydney for a couple of days is a similar trauma as combat? ;)
No, just similarly exhausting.
So Harem can’t have some of her bodies sleep and others be awake at the same time? In that case, I’d expect her to bring herself back to one body, requiring only one bed.
Yes, yes she does, and as long as at least one is on duty (and she can be OD 12/1) and keeping out of the reports (either by reading the confidential ones or being named in news reports), they don’t really care what she does the rest of the time with the rest of her bodies
But she has a quantumly entangled brain. Wouldn’t REM sleep mess up thinking, or get messed up by conscious thoughts intruding? Or are all of her dreams Lucid?
Supermean! Villain from another planet! Faster than a high speed chase! More powerful than the judicial system! Able to leap to insane conclusions in a single bound! There! Up in the sky! It’s a Cad! It’s a bully! No! It’s Supermean! DISGUISED as mild mannered gym teacher Brute Bent, he fights for petty crimes, injustice, and taking candy from babies! He’s Supermean!
His sister also happens to be: https://www.superbitchcomic.com/comic/belligerently-single/
I’ll just go die laughing now.
Sooo, that means we can’t expect you to show up for the New Year’s party?…
Sydney invoking tropes reminds me of a book: “Redshirts”
“Redshirts” is a fun book, basically about people living tropes. Just as Sydney is trying to invoke them, the characters in Redshirts art trying to invoke specific tropes. Like the ‘away mission’ trope where someone always dies – when there’s exploring to be done, crew get scarse fast, so that somebody else gets the red shirt. It’s no surprise that living in a world of living tropes, people get a touch psychotic trying to figure out fridge logic from in-universe. “Wait a minute. It’s a flesh dissolving virus, leaves nothing but bones. He had 8 hours to live. We get a cure to him in a little over 7 and a half hours, and he’s back at his bridge station the next day, not a mark on him?” “He got better.” “…”
And some of the alien tech in it is quite fun, like the box with its dramatically appropriate timing.
Its one of the major problems of any star trek series, Klingons are trained as soon as they can walk in hand to hand, and weapons, if the cannon is to be believed they still train several hours a day in holosuite or against there own crew. in a society that value combat strength above many other things its just plain stupid that humans have a chance against them. not even mentioning the fact that they are suppose to be at least 2x as strong and tough as humans and have a duplicate of every organ in there body.
As someone sayed that after many wars the humans would have found combat styles to fight the klingons, the Klingons would have done the same…
I did wonder why they did not use the same security system that ducat activated, the one that fired on anything but cardasians,easy to reprogram that to kill Klingons/anything els that is trying to take over the station.
Star fleet essentially jury rigged their tech into the station’s systems. Even after almost a decade of repairs and maintenance O’Brian only barely understood it.
You really should not confuse “cannon” with “canon”, three words after “weapons”.
;)
And duplicate organs, for a species supposed to be combat monsters, are not really that great an idea. Anything going through the heart is likely to produce blood loss sufficient to cause a swift death; if you have two full-size hearts, that’s just twice the chance of having something do that. It’s possible to do enough crushing damage to a kidney – WITHOUT breaking the skin – to cause death by internal hemorrhaging. More kidneys, again, mean more chance of that happening.
(That said, for non-violent injuries – chemical and biological stuff – duplicates CAN help in some cases. This is why you have two kidneys. Most people would find half of one kidney sufficient over the short term.)
The thing is… the organs aren’t just duplicate. They’re outright redundant. That is to say, they exist in an ‘at rest’ state, requiring minimal upkeep, and taking up as little space as possible until the primary version of the organ is severely damaged. Then the secondary takes over. A Klingon that gets skewered through the heart will find their primary heart going into a quiescent state, the circulatory system will reroute bloodflow to the redundant heart, and because blood is no longer flowing into the primary heart (except through a system of vena cava paths meant to keep both hearts alive), bloodloss through the wound would be trace at most.
The human “hat” in Star Trek is innovation and creativity. They’re much better at coming up with counters to things that other species come up with. And Klingons are shown as being a bit more hidebound and traditional minded than most species. So Starfleet coming up with anti-Klingon martial arts that the Klingons are slow to find a counter for does fit.
Of course Sydney set herself up, hasn’t anyone else realized the biggest shock of all yet, Sydney is the straight man, Straight woman, in the jokes and everyone seems to be playing them off of her.
Well into thier training,would Peggy start referring to Sydney and the others as either “gold bricks” or “yard birds”?
‘Trainee’. And a drill sergeant can make that so scary you would rather the call an one of a dozen bad things.
Which is not to say that they didn’t also call you bad things. At least not back in the 70’s
Also, despite Max being ex-Air Force, their rank structure more resembles the USMC than any of the other services. Airforce/Army/Marines all use the same names for Officers, but only the Marines always call E-4 “Corporals”. In the Army 90% or more E-4 are “Specialists” (or back in may day “specialist 4th class”, there being some E5 and above that were specialist instead of some sort of sergeants)
Which, if that is the case, the Drill Instructors will have some odd things to call new people.
I seem to recall Dax was taught hand-to-hand combat by the Klingons, when the previous host was the Federation Ambassador to Q’onos…
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