Grrl Power #376 – Let me show you the dance of my people
No Sydney, don’t get distracted by that guys dancing, you’re uncovering a mystery!
The way the orb works is kind of misrepresented on this page, cause it looks like the truesight gives her a myopic little pinhole to see through. If I had twice the space to draw this page I would have done a before and after panel to show the difference between the two. I could have made it a double, but I’d also need more time to draw it as well, so you guys get the “she’s releasing and grabbing the orb and seeing the Star Wars circle wipe of the truseight reasserting itself” effect. Also, unrelated, but that club is pretty bangin’ for a Wednesday night. Maybe a lot of people declared it “Superheroes are a thing” day and are throwing parties all over the place tonight.
I’m not yet ready to reveal what is going on yet obviously, but for the sake of discussion, let’s say you’re an alien and you come to Earth on vacation or for a semester abroad or something, and you have a watch that can disguise you as a human. How do you decide what to look like? Lets assume you’re from a species with binary gender and you can’t change that, but wouldn’t you want to look like the most privileged race in the area you’re visiting? That seems like that would be the default setting, but maybe you like standing out, so you’d disguise yourself as a black guy when visiting Japan. That would make you stand out for sure there. And would an alien know what constitutes an attractive or even a normal looking human? Probably the only way it would work was if there was some tourism bureau who assigned your human form hologram and you couldn’t make any changes while you were there, otherwise they might be tempted to tweak it as they learn what make humans attractive to each other. It also would mean you probably couldn’t get a tattoo while you were there unless your disguise was especially sophisticated. This is assuming that if you can eat the local food then tattoo ink probably isn’t going to dissolve your arm or anything. You’d probably have to get shots before you went so not only would you not have problems with local viruses, but also so you didn’t exhibit allergies to all pollen or so that rotten milk didn’t get you drunk.
Sydney jokes about black people being better dancers, (I’m a terrible dancer so I drag the average down for all white people) but really, beyond some pretty superficial cosmetic differences humans are really quite similar. In fact there is generally agreement among scientists that race is more of a sociological construct than a biological one, but imagine if you were going to a planet in disguise as a native, and among this species, one “race” was better at juggling and another had better memory and another could digest plant matter better. You’d probably have to disguise yourself according to your ability to pass as that subset of the species.
Humans are enormously good at identifying each other from our facial features, so much so that we absolutely take it for granted. I always wonder what would happen if we met an alien race that looked just different from us (or totally different) that we simply couldn’t differentiate them based on facial recognition. If they didn’t have some identifying thing about them that we could use, like one guy has a dimple in face chitin, or another has pale blotches above his eye array, that could make things really awkward. I’d love to see some sci-fi show deal with stuff like that, where there are aliens that are relatable sociologically (not weird cryptic aliens like the Vorlons), but they all have lobster faces and the humans can’t tell them apart and they can’t tell us apart. Heck, we probably couldn’t even differentiate genders, and they’d probably have the same problem unless facial hair was involved.
Crap I forgot Peggy’s tattoos. I’ll get that fixed.
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Orb of Omens… hahaha. :D
Now I feel like I should watch Thundercats again.
The Nerd is strong with Sydney.
CPT. OBVIOUS , WE HAVE ANOTHER TROPHY FOR YOU!
It still deserves saying. With pride!
Nah. To obvious. Can’t risk causing a black hole, not even a little one though the nerd in me wants to see one up close.
Of course. What else would you expect from someone who vetted Leon’s nerdity?
;)
Of course. What else would you expect from someone who vetted Leon’s nerdity?
;)
makes me wonder how many of these guys are “from beyond any known galaxy”
well, that would be an impossibility now, wouldn’t it? I mean, unless of course they themselves didn’t know where their galaxies were, or what they were called…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHXQKQPoUho
assuming a ‘flat’ universe, it’s edge is estimated at about 46 billion light years away from us; and while we can detect signals from that point (due to the expansion of the universe) we can only see in any ‘detail’ about 16 billion light years.
so yep, there are a LOT of unknown galaxies, probably
note that there was a lot of theoretical in that above statement, don’t be surprised if those numbers change in the future.
The universe is hyperbolic.
in the 70’s they came up with 3 theories of the ‘shape’ of the universe based in the fact that gravity reduces the rate of expansion, while the distance caused by expansion reduces gravity. Since in any of these examples we are still in the expansion phase there hadn’t been enough evidence to determine which was true
They are:
round- the universe started at one point and will collapse back to one point (gravity exceeds velocity)
flat- the universe will barely continue to expand, but at an ever decreasing rate until it almost stops (gravity equals velocity)
hyperbolic- the universe will continue to expand at an ever increasing rate, like a burst balloon, with each galaxy collapsing as they get ever farther from each other (velocity exceeds gravity)
In the last decade they have determined that the third theory (hyperbolic) is true.
ALSO, it is impossible to reasonably estimate the size of the universe because while we may be able to detect signals from 46 billion light years away, the objects generating them have been moving farther away for 46 billion years (even in flat or round universes)
The latest refinement,* is that it is hypochondriac. Most of the galaxies are scared of catching something contagious, from the other galaxies.
And they are right to be wary. We know there are virus-like lifeforms present, and just itching to spread, from one to another. Andromeda may well come to regret its forthcoming socialisation with the Milky Way!
* Source – me.
That assumes that all of these aliens are, in fact, from somewhere in this universe. No reason why some or all of them couldn’t actually be from other universes, alternate timelines, etc..
I mean,. once someone has the capability to do serious galaxy-hopping, then little things like time-travel and shifts to other dimensions / realities don’t seem quite so difficult, IMO.
It could even be argued that the latter possibilities are probably EASIER.
Thundercats HOOOOOOOOOOOO!
*insert obligatory “who are you callin a ho?” joke*
I think the standard reply is Dabbler anyway
I seriously doubt that she charges for it.
Your mom.
Your dad.
I want more Thundercats 2011. ;_;
I laughed so hard when I read that I started coughing.
How they got the first episode past the censors is a mystery to this day.
To the Thundertank, Panthro!
Thundercats, Ho!
Is Peggy drunk? Or just happy? o_O
Happy, working towards extasy.
Maybe imagining what she will do with Blondie when she gets her back to her place (Blondie’s place, unless Peggy doesn’t live at ARCHON-HQ)
Blondie looks to be doing the same.
Yes, but the only thing missing from Peggy is drool :P
Wait, is Peggy gay? I had such a crush… on a fictional character…
I’ll just go now.
It was explained earlier. She’s quite happily bisexual, and can find things to like and dislike in both men and women.
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/696
She’s actually bi.
Take heart – you still have a shot!
well as much of a shot you can have with someone who doesn’t live in our reality
To be fair, this is one of those comics where fans have a chance to be inserted (or their characters, at least) into the series, so… more possible than you’d think?
And where Dabbler is concerned, insertion will take on a whole new tier
Quit getting my hopes up, damnit! ;)
You… you… take that back!
*sobs*
You could always just punch reality really hard over and over till you shatter it
relax creeper the SDF should be in lunar orbit in this reality in about 13.4 billion years
goes to punch reality’s wall
Ignoble: “Take heart – you still have a shot!”
As long as you can dodge Peggy’s shot at you…
:P
Personally, if I had missed my shot with Sydney, I would just aim to shoot Peggy first.
Having borrowed Cupid’s bow and arrows, of course.
One day, I’ll probably figure out how to use tags . . .
It all looks fine, except for omitting closing the first sentence with:
</blockquote>
So exactly the same as you started it with, but inserting a “/” just after the less-than sign.
How did she get up there? Did she fly inside the club… seems like a party foul.
Maybe just climbed: there has to be a ‘mundane’ way for checking on the speakers (and it looks like it is above one of the bars, those are rows of glasses not lights)
She flew.
I’d like to think she Lighthooked, saying some Spiderman line as she did so. Thus, Panel 3 is the second time she had made that face.
I suspect that if she tried to brachiate with the lighthook, she’d pull the ceiling down. But, the flight orb is no secret and probably no one would mind seeing someone fly, when getting to see supers was the point of incentivizing them to come.
Guess what running a script blocker does to the comment system? Whoops.
It’s a good thing everyone’s so distracted. If I was on the premises and saw a known hero up there, I think I’d be keeping an eye on her to see if something was up. I’ll bet those who did see her swoop up there have those cameras out again . . .
I think she should be more worried about the bouncers. When she comes back down, she will be asked, “Why were you up on top of the bar there, with the speakers? That area is not open to customers,” as she is gently escorted to the exit.
You forget they’re actually PAYING for them to be there. She’s immune to that sort of thing.
“What were you doing up there?”
“Looking AWESOME”
Because let’s face it, that first panel does look pretty cool.
Why would the bouncers object to one of the celebrities they paid to come here making herself especially visible? Given Sydney’s salary and the importance of superhero PR she’s good for any damages, and she’s not getting anyone’s way.
But then with how the lighting in such a club is placed and where it’s focused on, it would actually be very hard for anyone down on the floor to spot her up there. And that’s without taking into account things like distraction from all that happens on the floor, music and the fact, that most people don’t look up unless someone/-thing specifically draws their attention there.
Syd is hard to miss when her balls are hanging out.
Knew someone would catch that, didn’t expect the word-play (well played, by the way!).
Normally I would say you’re right. But in a place with lighting like this, they do not really make her stand out. They are however pretty much the only thing giving the people in the club even a remote chance of noticing her.
thank you
Very true. Especially considering the potential damage supers can cause. If I was a bouncer and saw a super needing a time-out, I’d let it go instead of wanting to intervene when she got pressed more and more by her “adoring public” plus, yeah, showing off a power harmlessly is good press.
Panel three: in the running for “Cutest Sydney, ever!”?
Panel two is cool as well :D
Heh, I see your great mind is working well. On both counts.
I like panel 2 because it gives us a hint of what a mature and self-confident Sydney could look like.
Panel 3 is just pure Sydney .
Yes, she does look a little older in panel two
Had a flash.
I think Sydney will be one of those people who age well.
And in 30 years she will be in charge of Arc.
Standing in front of a graduating class giving them a speech about they will be doing.
Calling each of the balls to her hand to emphasize a point relating to it’s use.
Com ball point. You will see things that you will wish you did not have to.
Final part gestures to a wall with some names and dates on it.
“And some of you will end up there and we will morn your passing and be thankful for your courage.”
Cut to her office as she asks her aid LtC. Kessler “God was I ever that young and brash.”
Peggy looks around the room at all the toys, posters, and other memorabilia.
“Yes and you still are thank god.”
Que laughter from both.
In 30 years she’ll be just leaving the club in comic time…
Sorry I cracked up when I read this :)
*sniffles*
Because you grasp what I have son in my minds eye Yorp here is a little extra for you.
I see Sydney giving the speech in her work uniform https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1731 with her rank and a few of her ribbons.
She isn’t in dress because she is Sydney and I see her as a hands on lead from commander.
Here’s a little minds eye candy for you.
Later that day Sydney and Peggy are out doing a pt run their slender muscular forms glistening with a fine sheen of sweat.
Panels Two and Three, I really them as well.
Just realized that Sydney isn’t scared or freaked out, she’s actually having fun with this.
Yeah, she’s certainly adapted quickly to the idea of nonhumans hanging around on Earth. I think her nerdy nature probably has something to do with this, as it would for me, due to having read/ watched entertainment with nonhumans who are clearly good guys, or at least no more likely to be good or evil than humans in general.
consider the weirdness she;’s dealt with so far.
magical orbs.
A gold skinned super powered woman
a woman in 5 bodies that can teleport
a succubus that can make herself appear human..
a bunch of reptilians posing as normal humans is not exactly a shocking concept. especially when you have Dabbler around as an example of both non-humans, and that not all non-humans are going to be threats to earth.
Yup, Halo is treating this like an intellectual exercise. Clearly, whatever is going on, it is common enough that freaking out will not help. These appear to just be folks going about their day-to-day activities. So avoiding calling them out, or otherwise revealing her knowledge, is wise.
Sydney does have quite an advantage, in playing it cool. Although we might think that this is all an overnight thing for her, she has actually had several months to prepare. Having owned the orbs for at least that length of time. So Sydney has had ages, to get used to super-heroes being a real thing, and not some elaborate publicity stunt (which, up until yesterday, many sceptical folks might have been reasonably assuming).
The additional step of figuring out there may be aliens, and/or other supernatural entities, is not a big one for her. With Sydney’s genre-knowledge, she realises that such things go hand in hand, once you have a universe with super-powers being real. All she is having to cope with is transiting, from suspecting it, to having confirmed it. And she started that process yesterday.
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1150
is giving a ruin for the money.
Ka-Damit stupid clone.
Ahh memories
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/346
That is something Sydney can do as often as she likes, as far as I am concerned. And I am not alone, seeing how quickly and positively people were responding to panel 3!
Panel 3, making the fans fall in love, again.
Is there anything you wouldn’t do for her to get her to make that face?
Nothing.
Speaking romantically, rather than pedantically, of course. But, even then, the excluded set is minuscule, compared to the included one.
I’m pretty sure Panel 3 was also done in one of the early pages. I bring that up because holy shit it’s even more adorable with the added detail! :D
It reminds me of panel 3 here. I thought that face was so cute that I had it as my gravatar icon until recently.
I dare say that does look like the same face. Maybe she uses it when laughing? Speaking of that page though, i was unaware that there was a t-shirt related to this comic which apparently can be found here:
http://www.cafepress.com/grrlpowercomic
soon as i can i am totally buying an “always expect ninjas” t-shirt.
It is something to put on the Christmas wish list.
Good though the silhouette ones are, I hope that someday we also get full-colour ones, like in the original comic page. The pathetic pseudo-karate style comes across as a superb visual. Although the dark version does add the ninja vibe, so is a clever alternative.
Whilst in wish-mode, just having panel 3 (with or without the text), on the back, would round it out awesomely.
Panel 3 is the most adorable thing I’ve seen since dogmeat saluted XD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRqp38vnEho
+1 just for the Thundercats reference!
There was some foreshadowing of this joke based on what Sydney was wearing in the ‘Frozen’ vote incentive picture https://orig01.deviantart.net/e46a/f/2014/264/b/1/frozen_by_davebarrack-d800dxx.jpg
So, based on DaveB’s commentary for this page, Archon acts like the MIB?
(If this was brought up in the prior update, I apologize. I haven’t perused it.)
Yeah, most of us are guessing it’s something like that.
Maybe it’s not Archon, though. Clearly, Sydney’s bosses knew about the aliens, but maybe they aren’t the ones dealing with the aliens – filling out the forms, authorizing the visas, and assigning disguises. It is at least possible that some other agency is out there keeping an eye on our extra-terrestrial visitors and cooperating closely with Archon in case some kind of trouble breaks out.
Apparently, nobody knew about Archon until yesterday, so maybe there’s a super secret INS out there, too.
Either this or there are a LOT more supers/aliens in hiding than was previously assumed.
I think that MiB’s tasks would be rather tackled by Arc-Dark, see https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/675 (X was Dabbler’s handler and apparently involved with the division).
Panel 3. I just love it when Sydney is having fun. She looks incredibly cute there.
I always have fun saying random phrases from anime/video games/cartoons/etc. It’s fun, especially when you do it just for yourself. Crowning achievement was a well-timed yell of “SHOURYUKEN!” as I jumped to catch a ball someone threw.
Dabbler has her human glamor up but she’s using both sets of arms. I wonder how that works….
She’s a know superhero now. “I have telekinetic hands” would be as good a cover story as any.
Make them invisible, and make sure they don’t touch anything. If you can’t see them and can’t feel them, then who is to say they are there?
Dabbler does look to being pretty touchy-feely there. Bottom righty is actually squeezed between her butt cheek and his leg, whilst top righty is wrapped around his waste.
“Touchy-feely” is Dabbler’s second name. But here she’s just picking some light snacks for her evening buffet….
Ewwwww!
unless you meant “waist”
Waist knot wont knot.
she could also just say she’s just “partly” shifting into her battle form, and look like a four-armed human too. lots of possibilities. it’s not like most everyone in there HASN’T seen her on the news already.
Well she could be squeezing his butt.
Surprisingly well.
Hippno boobs
Not like the two guys she’s ….uh,”dancing” with are likely to be making comparisons ….
Yea, but both her right hands are on the black guy
Still Hypno boobs. She’s shown that the glamour has psychological effects. Strictly the guys will be able to feel the extra arms, long ears etc. But either not care, or feel positive about it.
Well, this close, those two guys would have to be really comfortable with each other. Maybe the guy in back is thinking that one hand is Dabbler’s and the other hand on his right side belongs to the other guy. Maybe his is thinking, “I don’t care how she got both hands over there; she is still hot!
Erm… “Thinking”?
You seriously believe he’s still doing anything of that sort?
It is extremely likely that any thinking done by him at this stage is with, as the Chinese call it, “his second head”.
The two guys might wind up ‘comparing’ each other.
Remember, it’s not gay in a three-way.
It sounds like you are having difficulty convincing yourself. Or is it someone else? ;-)
If you’re dirty-dancing with the Alien Sex Goddess and you have either time or concentration left to count hands… she’s not got her mind on her work.
if you enjoy the job you will never work in your life.
Nether of those guys have the ability to think that rationally right now. While they are very aware of her hands, they aren’t trying to count them.
They know she has a four-armed form so they’re not sweating the small stuff. (AKA she might not be using her glamour now.)
Nope…the “ring of truesight” thing that was illustrated to give us a single “before and after” image shows her with non-demony legs outside of the truesight spectrum. :) Glamour is in full effect. BUT you’re still probably right that they wouldn’t sweat the sensation of extra arms since her “battle form” is public knowledge…plus was DaveP. said above. :D
Is ‘lizard-boy’ really supposed to be a ‘black dude’? Because what little we see of his arm doesn’t seem ‘dark’ enough to me
‘Black’ is all sorts of shades. He’s at least as tanned as Kenya.
No, looks lighter to me
Maybe Sydney is talking about the guy getting the butt-grab from Dabbles?
No, the lizard guy is snapping, she talks about ‘he’s a snapper’
You’d be surprised. I’ve known (not ‘met’, I mean worked with) two black people who were lighter-skinned than my Germano-Italian blend, and for a short while went to school with a kid from East Africa (somewhere) who was an albino. He had the classic African facial features and hair… but pink-white. Genetics can do strange things with gross physical features including skin color.
An example: Chi Chi Izundu (the one here with the naturally blonde hair).
I’m more concerned about where he keeps his brains. He seems to have a very small cranium…
But look at the back of his neck.
It is very pronounced and his more of his brain could be there instead of up top.
Many of your Earth-reptiles spread their brain down the majority of their spine. Cut of the snake’s head, and it can still catch you in its coils and crush you.
Huh. I did not know that. Comment threads are so rich with information, it’s glorious.
you forgot that Vipers can still bite for over an hour after decapitation.
A lot of reptiles- and a lot of predatory mammals, for that matter- have the same kind of heavy neck musculature. It’s so the critter can amass the greatest bite strength, and then whip its head back and forth to rip out a chunk of meat. Look at a picture of a Staffordshire Terrier for the mammalian equivalent.
Could also be a sign that his brain is not just in his head but located throughout his body.
Nature (or intelligent design, as sure at some point we will run into an artificially created intelligent race) may have also equipped him with a more efficient set of grey matter, thus requiring less volume.
We have more efficient grey matter. That’s why they think it’s wrinkled. Smooth brains are a birth defect when the trait expresses in humans.
If he is an alien his brain may simply be made of much more efficient, compact, stuff than human brains. Not to mention the following:
If birds are that smart, then dinosaurs had at least as much capability. And he is more likely to be dinosaur-like than purely reptilian.* Especially if also pulling the trick of handling a lot of the processing outside of the brain. Making a nonsense of relying purely on comparing cranial volumes, if comparing potential intelligence.
* Working on the basis that nature likes to replicate success, by convergent evolution. And dinosaurs were the most successful group of species our planet has seen (going by combined diversity and length of existence, albeit not being extant).
Oops, editing snipped a bit, somehow.
Given that tiny dinosaur brains seemed to be insufficient, to both regulate their bodies and handle survival cognition, it is likely that their brains were either more efficient than humans, ounce-for-ounce, or their non-brain processing was powerful. Or both.
missed the correction that dinos have been determined to be avian not reptilian in most cases
because he got the look doesn’t mean he has the rhythm sydney deal with it hehe.
Or maybe lizard boy is doing the Carlton. That involves swinging your hands and snapping the fingers. Right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lxqa2Haf8lo
In fact… double down on the Carlton!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLRNcbZDcEM
Sigh… Look at the bottom of the comic.
Oops. I didnt see that DaveB said that in the little comment thing :)
still was only making a comment about what sydney said hehe
I know. I just wanted an excuse to link to a video of doing the Carlton.
Sydney doesn’t need to worry about Anvil. Kenya is already aware that any male who is not overawed (at least a bit) at her size/height is not standard. She is just enjoying the dancing. A member of the “Ch`utz”, the males are referred to as “pah”…
Also he looks to be just the right height to enjoy some motorized aquatic travel.
Yes, Peggy’s music would seem (potentially) very suitable :-)
Also I notice that despite looking uncomfortably similar to Jar Jar Binks, “he” is looking Anvil in the eyes rather than at eye level. Whatever else “he” may be “he’s” a gentleman.
Or a smooth operator. A real lounge lizard.
Do females of his species even have breasts? If not, he may take no interest in such things
In fact, since many reptilian species have larger females than males, the fact that Kenya’s so big and strong (and has such prominent fat reserves!) might be just what he’s attracted to.
I guess that is some kind of fridge brilliance. ;)
Only DaveB knows the truth…
Respect to Peggy. She has her own theme music. The Peggy and Blondie love theme:
Odds are, because they are at a club it’d be something super popular and overplayed. I’m going to insert my own head canon here and say it’s Animals by Maroon 5, only because I’m with Sydney and I don’t like places like this, and I really don’t like that song.
Then stop hiding in them.
Where else am I going to get some sleep? Nightclubs literally require no effort to hide in. Just a really good setup of earplugs and sound canceling headphones playing Beethoven.
I will give you that.
And kudos for liking Mr. B.
Sorry, but we are in still in the mid-2011 flashback. That song was released in 2014.
(pulls our carrot and takes a bite) “Ehh, what a maroon.”
Why am I suddenly thinking a particular Bloodhound Gang song might be a fitting substitute, theme-wise?
So the club is playing wubstep?
Two thoughts.
1st, Sydney is handling this in a very thoughtful and responsible manner.
2nd, The club probably was able to get a heads up out to its regulars, and in social media.
Once every thing was set up through Harem.
3rd thought.
If Max or some other ranker doesn’t show up and talk to Sydney, tomorrow will be interesting to say the least.
At the least Sydney should be on extreme guard about talking to any member of the press. Given that she knows she skipped the course, and is already on probation, for other incidents.
I’m surprised no one bothered to CALL Sydney from HQ :)
I’d see major risks (and probably several breaches of regulations) in trying to convey information that is presumably (a) highly classified, (b) extremely sensitive, (c) bears considerable explanation, (d) Absolutely all of the above; through a mere phone call.
“Hey, Sydney. This is just a quick FYI. Don’t be surprised if your Truesight picks up a whole bunch of non-humans at the club. It’s cool – we’ll tell you all about it later. ‘Bye!“
They could at least call her and say ‘he, we have to tell you some very important things. Meet Maxima outside the club
I get the feeling that the thinking ‘Well, what’s the odds of her running into an alien while running her truesight randomly within the next six to eight hours?”
Followed by a repeat of Maxima’s “I cannot believe I just said that”
And I just know that if that came up in a conversation between them, it would be followed by awkward silence and then Maxima jumping up “I’ll go get her!”
Yes, because when the speakers are making the ice cubes in your glass rattle, you can certainly hear, and feel, your cell phone when it goes off.
How do first responders handle personal electronics in extremely noisy, and bass deep, environments?
Easier would be to track down a Harem, have her find Sydney, and send Sydney outside for a quick conversation.
She could also “fake” a phone call in the bathroom, with the Comm ball, but the chances of someone noticing it, and what she can do with it, increases.
I’m not sure the Comm Ball would be a very good idea.
It may be that the thing does not have enough range for her to call all the way back to Archon. DaveB hasn’t really given us any idea of how far she can send her illusory Halo, after all.
Also, when the littler orb that comes out that projects the image, it would likely be seen by everyone in the club as it made it’s way out of the place. This risk is reduced if it turns out that the little orb can pass through solid objects like walls, but it would still probably be seen as it flew across the city to get to HQ. It’s a glowing orb in the dead of night, after all. Since they want this stuff kept secret, her new bosses would not approve.
Finally, whatever her illusory self says, she says too. Or at least, that’s what seems to be suggested by panel six of this page. You’ll notice Sydney’s speech bubble is connected to both the real her and the fake her! This means that if she reported to Archon that the club had aliens in it, she’d be saying it in the club as well where anyone could hear her.
Well, not exactly anyone. She’s still in the club. ;)
Whoops. Hit submit before I was finished:
It’s very loud, she does not know how to communicate in such an environment… Unless someone was leaning in onto her, no one would actually understand anything she said.
Which is why I referred to it as “faking” a phone call from the bathroom. If no one witnessed it, except for her apparently talking to herself in the stall, she could pass it off as using a cell phone.
Good points about range, but if anything could be ignored, it’d be the tiny speck of light drifting across a dance hall populated with superheroes. That does vanish as a plausible thing to ignore once it leaves the building, however.
They wouldn’t; you are correct. There are secure communication lines, and secure communication rooms for precisely such a reason. Giving classified information to someone cleared to know it, but in an unknown (to you) environment over unsecured lines is a quick way to lose your own clearance.
Wouldn’t they be able to call her via some non-phone method? I don’t have the time to wade through the archives, but wasn’t the choker part of their communication devices? I’d imagine they’d have to ensure that thing was secure since they use it during battles.
And then there’s that wrist gauntlet pip boy thingamabob. It probably could be used to send a securely coded message. We saw her use it to send text messages at the restaurant fight, after all. I have no idea if she’s got the thing on underneath her sleeve though and it may have run out of juice again and be needing a recharge.
she needs to put the ear bud in and set the mike to comm with the neckband and she hasn’t done that.
They are probably still discussing it and other issues they will probably need to bring Sydney in on.
Judging by the pole that goes through the bar roof to where sydney is, I doubt Sydney is the first to climb up there…… she just the first to do so and not dance….
She can fly.
I think Merf is implying that other folks have climbed up there for some drunk bar dancing. As us hairless apes are wont to do when intoxicated.
Intoxicated?? I used to do that at a club sober……
awww I always make them fall when I try. whats the secret?
Lose some weight.
Ha! Shots fired.
*ducks and rolls*
What, who, where? Did you hear Pendrake shooting at me?
I hope not, as that would be a really bad headache!
Has the orbital bombardment cannons track on Yorp.
*keeps rolling through wormhole, to secure location*
so what should I aim for .6 tons or .8 couse when your this big the lower limit is not that low
Wit proper upgrading of your chassis I see no problem with getting you down to .25t.
About the ‘alien race that makes it hard to differentiate individuals based on facial features’… for a number of people, you don’t even need to leave the planet to experience this, since this is exactly where the ‘all asians look alike to me’ trope comes from. So I’m going to assume that no matter how different the extraterrestrials might be, it’ll only take a couple weeks or months expose to their culture before you start developing the skill of recognising specific individuals in a crowd.
exposure*
Yup. I can concur: all White people look alike to me. It’s partially why I can’t remember names. Only benefit I have for getting old is I get to have an excuse.
In humans, the ability to recognize people by their facial features/structures is at an instinctual level. Our brain does all that at a subconscious level and feeds the memory of that person to our conscious mind. There is a mental disorder where that feature does not behave properly and they have to identify people using very conscious thinking, which is a lot slower. It is going to take more than a couple of weeks of exposure for these people to be able to tell people apart.
Sure I was friends with twins and it took me 2 years to tell them apart but by the time we graduated I didn’t think they looked anything alike.
<– twin
Some of our friends could tell us apart easily. Some friends we had known since middle school had trouble telling us apart by graduation.
When the latter asked the former how they told us apart the answer was a shrug and "they look different."
I recall seeing studies that when you recognize someone, you're not actually seeing their whole face. The brain sorta samples different parts to compare, and different people "sample" different bits. My brother and I are very similar, and some people just aren't "sampling" the different features.
I grew up with multiple sets of identacle twins, in my (large) close circle of friends.* So I learnt to pick up on the subtle differences very early on. Far sooner than I figured out that ‘long hair does not equal woman’.
But, yep, studies have shown that our brains actually create a caricature-like mental image of various facial types, based on past experience. So if you have experience with a wide range of different individuals, within an otherwise similar group, you have more templates stored to do this trick.
As such it is not racist if someone (honestly) says ‘all Asians look alike to me’. It is simply a statement of fact, that will be true for anyone who has not met many Asians. Or gained familiarity by other means, such as watching enough films, with oriental stars, to recognise distinct individuals.
* Throw in the non-identacle ones too, and there were actually as many twins as there were non-twins.
The old “All Asians look alike” thing can take some weird steps in the opposite direction.
Pretty sure we’ve all heard, at least anecdotally, about being able to tell where people are from before they even speak (and I’m not talking racial variance, I’m talking Caucasians and ‘knowing’ that one is French and one is German or Polish or whatever).
My wife is Chinese, and there is a very similar story there. I have lost count of the times she has picked out another Asian person and been able to accurrately say, just by looking, what part of China (or neighbours thereof) they probably come from. Once she hears their accent, the issue becomes ‘No Contest’. She doesn’t (knowingly) pick up on any “special’ features or anything, but she’s fairly well-travelled within China and has obviously picked up on local variances.
And even in an ‘Asians all look alike’ situation, there’s still differences between their faces, mannerisms, etc. But what if you have a race that does all that through pheromones, or through the sound of their voices? Literally identical except for something that we cannot see.
Or what if their markings can’t be seen in our visual spectrum? Mantis shrimp can see in spiral polarized light, and communicate with that, but we’re barely knowledgeable about what it even is.
Just being able to see slightly in the UV spectrum would inject a host of possible identifiers into a race. Hell, seeing heat signatures would be the same way, every mammal on this planet has a completely unique heat emanation pattern.
Another webcomic that DaveB may want to peruse.
The posted strip is the start of facial recognition, and the problems with cross-race eyewitness testimony.
https://lawcomic.net/guide/?p=3268
Okay is it me or dose that guy look like an evolved dinosaur of some sort?
He’s a Silurian. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silurian_%28Doctor_Who%29
I like how just sorta…comfortable/content panel four looks. It’s just nice.
RE the alien-disguise thing:
“Okay guys, new plan. We’re going to arrive on Earth as a group, all disguised as Elvis.”
“How will that help?”
“It’ll be hilarious.”
But they landed in New Vegas, and no one noticed
ROFLCOPTERPARACHUTINGELVISES
Wasn’t peggy asexual leaning toward straight? I distinctly remember (though I cannot find the precise strip right now) that she said that she doesn’t care about those things, until her hormones kick in, at which point she goes all boy crazy (at which Sidney shows surprise, because she thought Peggy was gay).
Shachar
She said she didn’t care about gender. Not that she didn’t care about sex
The page: https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/696
It clearly says that when the hormones do kick in, she goes all “boy crazy”.
Shachar
I think that the impression was supposed to be more pansexual than asexual. She says that she’s more attracted to the person than their gender. The “boy crazy” comment seems to be referring more to the idea that she DOES occasionally seek out men in particular because her body is “beggin’ for a preggin'”.
That doesn’t mean straight, it means sometimes her biological clock goes “GET ME PREGNANT” and hooking up with a lady doesn’t satisfy that feeling.
She also clearly says ‘it’s more about the person than their gender
Ooooh! Maybe she’s a biromantic asexual! (^3^)~♡
I’m pretty sure we can rule out asexuality of any sort when it comes to Peggy. From what she’s described, she’s closer to being pansexual, with a clear element of hormone drive.
There are people for whom sexual arousal is triggered by non-sexual characteristics. For example, if a person is aroused by people that challenge them significantly, that arousal is unlikely to care what equipment they’re packing.
That bit about people and aliens not recognizing one another has been explored before in Star Trek and Stargate.
I remember Wesley befriended an alien that needed some weird breathing thing at Starfleet, and met another some time later on the Enterprise. When asked how they tell each other apart, the alien paused, then said, “Huh, I guess we just do.”
Kinda anti-climatic, but there you go.
The Benzites on Star Trek. All Benzites from the same geostructure look the same to humans.
Didn’t know about the Stargate ones though, I’ll need to watch that series again.
Stargate: do you mean the Asgard? IIRC, they all looked the same but had very different voices.
It’s been referenced on other shows as well. After all, they’d have to address it when there’s a “Ditto Alien” trope. :)
Don’t forget Zathras. No, not Zathras, I mean Zathras.
Ohhhhhhhhh. You mean Zathras, don’t you? People are always confusing him with Zathras.
I like Zathras, but Zathras owes me money.
… And then there’s Zathras, who we try not to talk about.
But what about Zathras?
When I look at Dabbler and her two friends, I feel like I should be making some kind of Dirty Dancing reference. Fortunately for us all, I won’t. :D
*Sings*
They’ll have
the time of their lives!
To bad they won’t
remember it at all!
But I swear
It was good
And you owe it all to her.
Look up face blindness / prosopagnosia.
The waitress alien had hair and less of a snouty facial shape. Are we dealing with trope-level sexual dimorphism?
I expect with all the distinctions, that Jeanie and reptile-boy are not the same species. But I still think both are locals. Jeanie is a mammal (unless those are air sacks on her chest) and Anvil’s partner is reptilian (his species’ females will not have breasts). If you are identifiable as a member of an order of tetrapod, the probabilities say you came from here!
you know, Snake people, or “Sneeple” control our government at the highest level.
don’t slander sneeple like that they stay out of politics. humans are the problem with politics beyond politics themselves.
Maybe Aliens pose as minorities so the Earthers will ignore any idiosyncrasies.
“It must be a Black thing to put hot sauce on waffles”.
Also….
It must must be really inconvenient to be colorblind in Equestria.
Now imagine Aliens use some clue other than visible light to identify each other.
If that’s the case, then of course humans wouldn’t be able to.
No, it is a Sydney thing to put hot sauce on waffles. For your second point, we see light from red to violet. Many species of insects, including bees, see yellow to near-ultraviolet. So, many flowers actually have ultraviolet areas to help direct bees and other pollinators to the area with the nectar and pollen. Because most of us do not see ultraviolet, we miss those UV markings.
actually i’d had the same thought too. being from a non-primary ethnicity for a region would help hide in plain sight when you mess up cultural stuff. even better if you can pose as someone from far enough away that your knowledge and behavior being “off” gets blamed on just being non-local, rather than non-human. so the saurian posing as a black guy could probably claim to be from Africa or the Caribbean or other place “not the USA” where there is a major black population, and most people who meet him would probably attribute any cultural, behavioral, or linguistic mess-ups to that.
“Humans are enormously good at identifying each other from our facial features, so much so that we absolutely take it for granted. I always wonder what would happen if we met an alien race that looked just different from us (or totally different) that we simply couldn’t differentiate them based on facial recognition.”
Phil Foglio used this shtick in one of his Buck Godot comics:
https://www.airshipentertainment.com/buckcomic.php?date=20071115
https://www.airshipentertainment.com/buckcomic.php?date=20071117
“Those plump thorps really bring out your tail.” Totally something I’d do if integrated with alien races. The defenestration would totally be worth it.
I always get defenestration and evisceration mixed up. Always hard to remember which one is a fun party game and which one upsets people, too.
Defenestration is the act of being thrown out a window. the two aren’t mutually exclusive ;)
I love the English language, if only because it has a specific word for that.
“Crap I forgot Peggy’s tattoos.” hahahahahaha
ADD kicking in at weird times, huh?
ADD does not “kick in”. ADD is the Path and the Life. It is the gift of not ignoring the pretty butterflies.
Or the squirrels. Never forget the squirrels.
Oooo! And the SHINY! :D
+6 (and never forget the squirrel kings! And worse.)
statment tree +10 of awesomeness vs bla mood triggers autowin
DaveB is really trying to cover up the secret that Peggy’s tattoos are actually a variant of the Arc-Dark disguise kit they used in the bank caper https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/335
Magic tattoos have the benefit of not hurting when you get them, and being able to change the design whenever you want. Gwen could probably create one for Peggy that moves if she wanted.
Or they are how she carries her weapons inconspicuously.
Please…I dance like an epileptic fish out of water.
I imagine a lot of us ADHDers have the eye-hand co-ordination problems that manifest in horrid dancing skills.
Nah…I know plenty of ADD/ADHD folks with shockingly high levels of grace and general smoothness when it comes to dancing/movement. :)
In my case, an earthquake can be considered more graceful.
My dancing? *Shudders* Lets just not go there . . .
My dancing can be considered a crime against humanity.
Let me show you.
Sheppard Commander?
Overweight, balding, bearded, fish belly white man in a speedo.
Doing disco
And then there’s Elaine-level ‘dancing:’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQu_NLRvULM
I took over ten years of dance classes ranging from Irish step to ballroom to polka. I still dance like a white boy when I’m in a club. There is a pretty major difference between formal and social dance.
You don’t need aliens to have trouble telling individuals apart – just head to your nearest farm or zoo – until you spend a significant amount of time hanging out with a species, you have trouble telling individuals apart despite members of that species being able to.
About the whole “aliens you can’t recognize the face of”, planet of the apes did that already (well, except with apes instead of aliens. They didn’t make a big deal out of it though, it was more like comic relief (“You all look the same. Yeah, you too”. )
In regards to visiting aliens choosing a disguise, I would think obviously standing out would be ideal, actually. Aliens would be best served appearing to be a tourist, after all– that way they are not expected to be assimilated to the local culture or to understand all the local customs and dialect. People will be more patient about explaining things, and less incredulous at the idea that someone doesn’t know something.
If you want to blend in as an alien tourist, the best way to do it is to be a tourist.
Now you made me want to have the comic show an alien tourist consulting his ‘Guide to Earth’ translation book and have a “My hovercraft is full of eels” moment.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MyHovercraftIsFullOfEels
Sydney needs to make a “They Live” reference when she reports this…
…If she does, I wonder how many of the higher-ups will get it.
Maxima. Probably no one else, unless the team hacker is in on the session.
Maybe the mage, he got the Duck Tales reference after all.
heh. i like the orb of omens thing.
i’ve read some people try to speculate how other aliens recognize each other, such as through smell or sound of voice. humans do have a relatively large chunk of brain set up to recognize human faces, but it’s not like we can’t tell two cats or two dogs apart. as someone with prosopagnosia (face blindness), most of the time i recognize people by the sound of their voice. a domino mask wouldn’t do much to fool me. for a similar reason i love watching animated movies to see how many voice actors i recognize. i know of some other face blind people, or actually blind people, who recognize others by voice as well, or even by smell. it can throw me off when someone changes their hairstyle or has a very generic voice.
i imagine if there was an alien that relied on smell to recognize individuals, they would be rather annoyed by all the guys using the same axe perfume, hair gel, and deodorant. at least most women use different combinations of artificial smells in their body products and are individual enough. if they had a wider range of sight than humans, they could always draw on their friends with “invisible” without their human friends knowing.
I wouldn’t say I’m face blind. More face-near-sighted. I recognize people by their gaits and voices long before details like skin color, hair color, nose shape, etc, trickle down to awareness.
I have a couple co-workers I still can’t tell apart. They are not related, but they do the same job and have the same very rough characteristics.
For some reason, I feel like Daphne is about to try a new soda.
Paparattzi cola?
…
I’ll show myself out.
more like “diet bad date soda”
I suspect that if she tried to brachiate with the lighthook, she’d pull the ceiling down. But, the flight orb is no secret and probably no one would mind seeing someone fly, when getting to see supers was the point of incentivizing them to come.
I forgot that if I’m running a script blocker, it breaks the commenting reply system. Sorry.
Cool, she’s determined that something is going on. Now call it in. Immediately.
Dr. Who does the whole “how do you tell each other apart” thing quite well, actually. For example, the Infernians all look like boiled potatoes, and they’re mostly clones, yet they can tell each other apart quite nicely. They then look at humans with all different shapes, sizes and colors and wonder how we can tell each other apart.
If you mean the Sontarans, then yes. There’s a running joke where Strax (Mme. Vastra’s valet and nurse) often calls the Doctor’s assistant ‘Boy!’, even though all the recent ones have been female.
Oops… apart from Rory (Amy Pond’s spouse), obviously.
The rept-alien ® is taking a big chance wearing a short sleeved shirt. If anyone were to touch his arm (or head) they would definitely feel scales instead of skin.
Depends on the tech used. It is possible they use a Holo-“Shell” that can replicate skin texture
Humans can already create tactile feedback surfaces that mimic certain feelings. Like a smart phone surface that can feel like a real keyboard.
Has the club gotten advance notice (and thus been heavily advertising tonight as Superhero night?) Because it could be just this one club and it’s just because of the promotion. It’s almost like a anime/comic/tv show convention. You have guests of honor be there, and people (and money) naturally follow.
Clever gravatar picture!
Oh yea, seconded!
As regards the comment, Dave’s commentary addressed the point, somewhat.
But, yea, we know that Harem haggled out a deal (presumably) several hours before the team went. They all had time to get changed and so on. The instant that the club had it confirmed, they would have been spreading the word. Even a simple call-in, to a local radio station, could have drawn the crowds out.
“Can yous give out a shout, to me an me posse? We is going to club Oontz tonight, ’cause DJ Vinal Scratch is playin’. An we hear Halo, Harem an’ other bangin’ supers are go’nna be there!”
Social media is also a wonderful thing, a few tweets from the right people and there’d be super hero fans lined up around the block.
Arianna, please get Maxima to ban Sydney from commenting on social media. Especially tweeting, when on a mission!
*braces for the eventuality*
I totally get you Dave with the dancing thing. I have terminal WBS (White Boy Syndrome) my dancing rhythm is so bad I have anti-rhythm. My presence on the dance floor will actually throw others off their rhythm.
others fit on the dance floor with you must be nice.
Surely, your first problem is fitting through the door?
8-)
whats hard about that lift roof, enter dance floor, settle roof where found.
omg, you just slipped the entire club a roofie?!?!!!