Grrl Power #342 – Predenuded
And now we know Dabbler’s true mission, to slowly pervert Earth’s mightiest heroes! Ok, that’s not what she’s doing here. I mean… she is doing it, but it’s not why she’s here. It is one of her many hobbies though. She has an easy crowd there, Harem’s open to new experiences and Sydney, well, she didn’t have to be sold on anything.
If I was a girl, I assume I would do very little in the way of body hair maintenance unless I thought it might come up, like going on a date or whatever. Sure, if it’s summer and shorts and tank tops and bathing suits are in order then I would put forth the requisite effort, but I highly suspect during the fall and winter I would be in Wookie Mode. (This is assuming no boyfriend or job at Hooters.) I asked my wife about this and she said all women do this and the ones who say they don’t are lying liars who lie.
I haven’t decided if guys supers can grow beards. I don’t think I’ve put any supers with facial hair in the comic yet so it’s still up in the air. I’m leaning toward no, but that sort of creates a problem if there’s ever a live action version of Grrl Power. There are just some guys who look like they have a 5 o’clock shadow as soon as they’re finished shaving which could create some casting issues, and there probably aren’t a lot of actors who would be willing to have their face waxed.
This page colored by Keith.
I’ve been quite bad about keeping up with messages and things on DeviantArt, so when I finally checked in, I found some fan art pieces waiting, so in no particular order, here they are for those interested:
- Sydney Fighting Sprite
- Sydney pencils
- Maxima done in some sort of dress up doll program (I’m sure she’d be thrilled)
- Sydney as a Pony. Her cutie mark is apropros.
- Sydney via Poser (or similar 3D program Probably Daz3D now that I think about it.) It’s super weird seeing Sydney as a non-anime human.
Here’s the link to the new comments highlighter for chrome, and the GitHub link which you can use to install on FireFox via Greasemonkey.
yea im on board too. ITS FLUFFY and strong to boot
I’m glad to hear that I’m a furry, my fursona is 7/5 foot tall Anthro Snow Leopard Plus I’m bisexual as in my Icon.
That fur will catch in your teeth.
Feathers, on the other hand…
Not if it’s the correct length: long enough that it is not spikey and rough, but short enough it’s not ‘scraggly’, tend to call it “The Baby Hedgehog”
Oh wait, you mean the body hair? Meh, works on the body as well :P
Feathers? I could go with feathers. It’s kinky without being perverted.
You want to know what the difference is?
Kinky is using a feather…Perverted is using the whole chicken, alive or dead.
Just watch out that you don’t contract the Avian Flu or something…
I’m put in mind of a memorable exchange from a ‘Star Trek: The Next Generation’ novel I read a long time ago.
Will Riker is a guest at a ‘traditional’ Betazoid wedding (“traditional” in this context meaning that all participants and guests are nude).
At one stage, a dignified Betazoid lady asks him quite frankly, “Why are all you Earthmen so hairy?”
Riker gives her his very best ‘innocent’ expression and immediately responds, “Traction.” The lady nods thoughtfully and walks away.
This forum needs a “like” button.
It has better than a “like” button, it has a “Reply” button
Yep. It gives you the opportunity to say why you like it.
Didn’t flying rescue man or his cameraman* have a beard?
*possibly fictional or imaginary
Oh. Nope. Just a balaclava covering his face. Ignore me.
(cameraman was beardless with no headgear – and imagined)
Pretty sure the men have to be able to do beards, if the whole #143 thing is canon- 3 of the 4 men depicted there have facial hair and the fourth has some significant sideburns.
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/942
maybe facial hair doesn’t count since she said “body hair” that doesn’t imply your face sometimes
Sydney’s head down in the corner of the image means that she was imagining all of those old timey supers. Doesn’t necessarily mean they didn’t exist though – maybe she guessed right!
In any case, when it comes to facial hair, I grew up at time when Indiana Jones and Miami Vice were new, so I like my heroes unshaven and kind of scruffy.
“Who’s scruffy-looking?”
~Han Solo
You have made me chuckle. Thank you kindly.
steampunk maniac, magician and Lincoln…
magic is not a “super power”, its something (assuming it exist in your universe) anyone can learn.
the lightning as far as i can see is made by the steampunk-ish box on his back.
that leave us with Lincoln… who has not shown there any sign of being a super.
in fact, him using an axe there suggest he may not have anything else to defend himself with, so that’s one sign against.
Anyone can learn if the author decide so.
Es. Warhammer Fantasy, mages in World of Darkness
well, the genaral difference between “magic” and “super powers”, is that one is common, and the other is unique to the person (unless someone has the power to steal or mimic others).
while there can be some “affinity conditions” present in the given world, for examples bastins from twokinds lose brain cells every time they use magic, or some other races are more or less talented in certain styles of magic, there isn’t an arbitraty distribution of “talent” that “just wake up one day”.
“potentially anyone” doesn’t mean there is no denying condition, just that there is (usually) no specific (known) requirements.
superpowers on the other hand just wake up one day unique to the person, and that person (“unless”) cannot ever use another power.
while magic users have to learn their art the hard way, for a super, using its power is (usally) as natural as breathing.
magic use depends entirely on the “laws of reality” in any giving world.
For example, in D&D, magic is tied in with “words of power” in that the power is inherent in the words & focused by the mental desire. Once the power is released, the words are excised from memory – Hence the reason why those mages have to re-memorize their spells.
The GURPS system has guidelines for a plethora of different systems, but in their GURPS Fantasy version, it’s tied in with knowledge on how to use & direct ambient “mana” from the caster’s body & environment.
Ambient mana can vary from place to place, so that areas that have high levels of mana allow anyone to cast spells, if they know them. However, personal mana varies from one person to the next according to Magical Aptitude – Those with the Aptitude can channel & use mana for more powerful results than those who don’t have it. Areas with high enough ambient mana don’t need a person with the Aptitude to cast spells, but in areas of low (or no) mana only those with the Aptitude can cast spells, and even they find it more difficult to cast & less powerful with results.
Evidently, magic works in Dave’s world here, but HOW it works & WHY it works is totally up to him.
… was that supposed to be a counter argument?
it sure didn’t invalidate anything i said, i think.
affinity aside, the main point stays.
“powers” are awakened, while magic is learned.
No, I wasn’t making any counter-argument; I was citing more examples in addition to what you wrote. I also merely pointed out that, given the plethora of rules for the “physics of magic” that are available, that it’s still up to Dave how it really works in the Grrl Power universe; He’s never really explained in any detail how he makes it work here, nor do I expect him to. In the course of story-telling though, he’s probably going to hint a few clues here & there.
Not all magic in D&D (unless you are talking about DDO) have a Verbal component
Lincoln was like a 7 foot super strong fighter without (presumably) being a super.
the beard might just be one of his powers its self.
hmm true, some powers can create exception, but if so, then he is an exception that do not affect the rule.
Oh, and Paul Bunyan in #149 had a light beard and moustache.
Hmm, well, ok that makes slightly less sense than no post pubescent body hair, but I guess I should roll with it.
Just call “manly beard” a superpower, or perhaps tie it to a specific power which might be related to increased androgen production which could trigger hair growth in specific supers with specific powersets
Back at the Recruiting Office: I’d like to sign-up for Archon. My name is Cliff Jones, but I like the name Samson. The longer my hair, the stronger and tougher I am. Been that way all my life. When I started growing the beard and ‘stash in my late teens, my power really soared.
Recruiting Sergeant: You do know this is a military position, right? We have certain regulations regarding hair length and facial hair. You won’t be allowed to have hair past your collar and the beard will have to go.
Samson: You can’t do that! I’ll be as weak as a kitten. There has to be another way.
[ Another recruiter comes in the room with a woman with orange and black stripes ]
Other recruiter: Okay, Kitten, so with a dead lift of two and a half tons, I will definitely forward your request to be part of Archon. So, have you had any legal trouble since your graduated high school?
Samson: And I don’t mean her.
Kitten: Hey, who’s Sasquatch over there? He’s cute:
Samson: I go by Samson.
Kitten: That fits.
1st Recruiter: No fraternizing! It’s your turn; let’s go see if you are super-strong and how much.
I almost wanna see this scene in the comic.
Just ask Action Hank:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yVPewAybZw
Or, since this was someone discussing the history of super powers, we could well be getting someone’s mental image of P. Bunyan, rather than an actually historical image of the man.
She’s wearing the meme sweater!
1- That sweater does not look good on Dabbler. I think it’s the color.
2- Sydney seems to be getting over her shyness: very blasé response to getting flashed in Panel 6, there.
I’m diggin’ Sydney’s expert use of dual hair dryers.
Surprised she didn’t try using her orbs: send them into Turbo-mode
Justifying the purchase of the ambidexterous feat
Dual-wielding is badass. Case in point:
https://www.troopsofdoomcomic.com/2011/07/21/dual-wielding/
Shame ToD stopped updating :(
as a part time actor I am saddened to inform you that yes, male actors will indeed wax their faces if it helps them get a high paying part. That being said, it is uncommon for a film or serial to advertise a requirement for a ‘baby smooth face’ in their casting call… I’ve only ever seen two that had that declared, and both of those were commercials.
Shaving commercials?
Cheeks and jaw I could see. Waxing the neck seems like an awful proposition.
Seriously, just remind them of all the zeroes on their paycheck and tell them to suck it up. A bit of pain to get baby ass smooth every now and then, you can wipe your tears with hundred dollar bills.
The trouble with beard hair is that it often grows in a more curly pattern than body hair. Waxing it can lead to ingrown hairs. These are at a minimum painful to treat and can often lead to infection.
Mine is like that. There’s a spot on the right side of my chin where the hair grows in pretty much every direction except for “with the grain”. Shaving with a razor draws blood in that spot every single time.
And there is such a thing as concealer makeup to hide such things as 5 o’clock shadows.
Grrls on the prowl? Please show that, hopefully over a couple months :D
Furries abound. And showing off Dablers other superpower…The ability to get undressed and redressed in the blink of an eye. Probably a very good power for a succubus to have.
She was dressed in panel eight (if you count the panel with Sydney asking for a razor as a panel)
She is dressed through the whole page,you can her sweater in both panels
Which is my point. She comes in to shower after them and is dressed while there still doing there hair.
Well, she did say she has a cantrip to speed up her drying time, that’s why she doesn’t need towels (and she uses the hairdryer for ‘private’ times)
Well, maybe if they were The Mighty lumberjack or Super Mountain Man, they could have full on, well cared for beards. I think facial hair for male supers would be allowed as long as it fit them.
This BEARD is my Super Power! For I am Mountain Man! Why is there no one around to hear my declarive exposition?! Why did I chose this track of untamed wilderness in the Rockies to be by Heights of Solitude?! Who gives super powers to an agoraphobic recluse anyways?!
shouldn’t that be Claustrophobic?… Agoraphobia is the fear of OPEN spaces… he would NOT have been out in the mountains EVER… it’s TOO much open space for him to handle… now, if he were to be a claustrophobic person… then all that open space would be IDEAL for him to be a Mountain Man! ™
Obviously that is bizarro mountain man, trying to fool us
Also, I’m wondering if Sydney was thinking of The Beast in all of his strong blue furry glory.
I refuse to shave, espessially since that is a nice way of getting infections. I don’t see the need to shave legs, pits or….areas. I don’t get why society dislikes women who don’t shave and pressures them shave to be ‘beautiful’. Bleh. Anybody should not be pressured into doing something they do not want to do. If it is okay for men to not shave the same should apply to women.
You are assuming that they are shaving because of Societal Pressure, and not because of comfort and ease of cleaning (the only reason you would be getting ‘infections’ is if you are either using a razor way past it used by date, or you are shaving wrong… or both)
Seconded! Granted, I have light fine hair, plus I work in a field where wearing trousers is de rigueur. But I’ve shaved enough to know that it’s too annoying to continue.
Dave, your wife is right, most women where I come from shave in the winter. Except around the holidays. I’m assuming because of party dresses.
^
//weeps over lack of edit function//
… DON’T shave in the winter…
yeesh
Alternately, they could do what the girls in my high school did… thermal underwear (aka longjohns) under skirts. Personally I think it was less about warmth and more about not having to shave their legs. It wasn’t a very pretty look (IMO) and fell out of favor after just a year or two. Of course, these days they have leggings to do the same thing.
“If it is okay for men to not shave the same should apply to women.”
Errr it’s not ok for guys to not shave. Unless they’re a hunk, and probably even then, they’ll start getting looks. That hipster with the full beard on the street? He’s shaving too, beards don’t naturally grow that nice & sharp.
Hell unlike us, guys can’t hide their their socially mandated shave zones under some pants or nylons.
Which is why I’m so very, very happy that facial hair is finally coming back into ‘style’. I mean, geeze, it’s been a century since WWI made men shave their faces to fit in their gasmasks!
NOPE!, You’re wrong… the military STILL requires shaved faces.
And it’s STILL because of gas-masks, though the more common reason we actually need to be clean shaven is for the use of fire-fighting equipment, when i was in the Navy it was called an OBA, short for Oxygen Breathing Apparatus and i know that now days they’ve changed that system to pretty much what current civilian firefighters use, which is more like a SCUBA tank, not sure what the current acronym for that system is though.
My policy on body hair is very simple: I don’t shave, thus you don’t have to shave. Half of the ladies I’ve been with didn’t shave, the other half did, including the mons. If you aren’t into men with beards and body hair, I’m cool with your choices. Just don’t expect me to conform to them *grin*
There’s a difference between shaving & trimming. You don’t have to shave at all, just to keep a nice, sharp-looking beard by trimming.
since the modern trend to save stated many spicies of pubic lice has gone extint.
And it’s not just social preasure many people both male and female hate the changes ther bodies go though with puberty.
There are reasons to shave that have nothing to do with appearances. I used to shave during shorts season because my old bike would throw bits of glass and tiny sharp rocks into my legs when I rode, and treating the tiny cuts was easier with no hair in the way.
Supers don’t grow body hair? A certain Canadian with an Adamantium skeleton would like a word.
Technically, Jimi is a mutant, not a ‘super‘ :P
in what world and on what page can i see that canadian? if its not Grrl power then its irrelevant, if it is, post a link. if it isn’t still post a link.
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/456
Panel 7. Apparently Sidney plans to marry him.
wolverine… yeah, “adamantium skeleton” should have been a giveaway, but the Canadian threw me off.
still, you cannot use him as an argument if he doesn’t exist in this world.
Wait, you didn’t know he was a Canuck? o_O
Yeah, he’s referred to himself as being a “canucklehead” at various times. Besides, a hairy body is part of his power-set: He’s short, hairy and smelly…
What? You didn’t know that his enhanced senses powers also includes Discriminatory Smell?
:D
there were some episodes in which is past is shown, with a lot of snow, but somehow the connection was never made.
Wolvie’s specifically Albertan, in fact. my home province :D
I thought James was born on a homestead outside Regina, one province over.
And right there is the difference between the source comics & the derivative movie scripting…
I look at the Sydney Sprite and all I can think of is “Stop! Hammertime!”
Wait, is this canon? Supers have no body hair? I’d think it’d depend on the person. E.g. Max I could believe it, because her skin is metallic, so it makes sense. Harem would also make sense since she has some control over the appearance of each of her incarnations, so that would include presence or absence of body hair. But everybody else? Not sure how having super powers would have any effect on one’s ability to grow hair. And if your powers come from an artifact like Syd’s, or from just having lots of cool toys (e.g. Batman, Ironman), well then you’re not really super anyhow, so does this statement apply to them as well? (Obviously not in Syd’s case, but in general…)
Harem modifies each body the way you or I would. Hair dye, tattooist, etc.
In the same way every female and male with natural super abilities are, they are idealized versions (zero body fat, taller than ‘normal’)
Yeah, but you don’t usually see it lampshaded in this way. I do recall one iteration of Superman (I think it was Lois and Clark, but might’ve been one of the Christopher Reeves movies) where they show him shaving – by using his laser eyes in a mirror because no earthly razor could possibly cut his facial hair…
That was actually common in the Silver Age (when Red Kryptonite once gave him a mountain man look with overgrown beard, hair, and nails that were tougher than normal it took the combined heat vision of Supergirl and Krypto to shave him), but suffered from Fridge Logic since he was only invulnerable under a Yellow or better sun, so Superman could (like when training against Muhammad Ali) simply expose himself to Red Sunlight and shave like any normal human being.
That was in The New Adventures of Superman (Dean Kane) iirc.
In Superman 3, he broke a mirror with the same laser vision. But then its a different universe version.
I always wondered how many mirrors it took to deal with that pesky back hair. Not to mention… Oh, never mind.
Can remember an issue of the comics where he tried that (believe it may have been when he became Blue and White) and it sent him flying backwards and magnetized everything in the kitchen
They are not super, just people with guns and/or gadgets, so why that statememt should apply to them?
@DaveB, the Maxima fan-art link doesn`t seem to lead anywhere.
Looking at Dave’s own page, I think it’s supposed to lead to this: https://davebarrack.deviantart.com/art/Maxima-517495513
well… at least it shows her fully clothed… i guess that she won’t be TOO pissed at how she’s portrayed there in that shot… though with her revving up for another nuke there in her hand, it MAY have been a bad time to take the photo of her…
The girl in the poser fan art is Sydney? I wouldn’t have guessed it. I mean, she’s got the orbs, but no bangs, the wrong glasses, and seems a bit more . . . developed than The Mighty Halo. On the other hand, the artwork is well done and the girl is cute!
Really liking the 3D Halo fanart
Yeah, could do with some work, but with what is available, it’s good
Okay, one of those balls are ‘missing’ (or in her right hand), but just not sure if it is MolestOrb or Forb
Perhaps we just can’t see it because it’s behind her head.
while the count is off, we can explain away… how do you explain that she has TWO orbs that are visible, but both are the same color of RED?
Sorry, I see only one red. The others are blue, purple, orange, yellow and green.
i don’t know about you, but to me, my monitor, AND the digital color picker in Irfanview ALL call that the same color for the two orbs between the yellow and the green orbs… they are both the same shade of red: (FB200A)… can’t get much more accurate than a distinctly unique digital number value when comparing things like this: both of those orbs ARE the same color…
If you say so. I didn’t use anything more than a pair of decidedly low tech and forty-five year old nearsighted eyes behind a set of corrective lenses. I can hardly argue that those are infallible tools.
: D
Have no idea what ‘Irfanview’ is, but it. is. WRONG!!
The front one is orange, the back one is red
You mean, my old fashioned eyes might not be wrong after all?! o_O
Checked using a pair of 80+ year old eyes, and they say “Orange and Red”
IrfanView is a classic image-editing program. Also, it depends exactly where you pick the colour, but anyway:
1) Using Windows Paint, the front orb has [255,32,12] (r,g,b) for the top-right edge of the orb (the biggest area of solid colour). The back orb is [255,14,9] – more of a pure red. But they’re very close.
2) The highlight at the bottom of the front orb is definitely more ‘yellow’, consistent with the light source passing through something that’s more ‘orange’.
Yes, they’re different.
Counted one as being red, and the other being the brown
What is really throwing things off is the fact they don’t have their ‘insides’
Since the photographer was grumbling about Maxima’s specularity, I’ve been thinking about making a sufficiently shiny 3D version of Maxima. I haven’t done it yet.
I find that version of Sydney a bit disappointing. Like, it’s close enough for community theatre, and the colouring is very good, but it doesn’t immediately feel Sydney-esque. Maybe I could do better; I think I’d give her a bigger mouth and a customised fringe.
Think of it as the prototype, or first draft, they haven’t been able to add any of the special effects or the identifying interiors to Sydney’s balls yet
….. A-N-D Sydney reengages ‘Foot-In–Mouth’ Mode. ;)
I foresee Dabbler’s next card game:
BLUSHING_HALO_BINGO!
“On which of the following topics can you get Syd to swallow her foot?”
1st “5-in-a-row” wins the pool!
Dabbler: Givimg a whole new meaning to “furry”.
Dave: In your comments, did you mean to say “lying liars who lie”?
Yeah. Did I spell it wrong? I think it’s right.
Almost – you said “lairs”, for “liars”
Also, thanks for the nostalgia!
It’s been a long time since I last watched my nephews explore the [HomeStar Runner]-website, & longer still since I’ve heard anyone refer to “Cheating Cheaters Who Cheat”.
Oh, geeze, ok it’s fixed.
I’m just waiting for when Sydney makes a Steven Universe episode.
Only then will my life be complete.
*reference
Stuff fails to get out of my way, too! And no, it doesn’t learn, even tough you’d think it would, after all these time. It’s very sad. Inanimate objects, these days…
I really hate those inanimate objects that actually move into your path…Like furniture in a darkened room that you have to cross in the middle of the night to reach the bathroom.
Those collisions are cause by evil furniture gnomes. They use their night vision to move things into your way in the dark. That is why you don’t bump into them in the day. They hide then because their eyes are too sensitive for daylight. They also are known to place toy cars and legos on the floor for you to step on.
In my case, it’s usually oscillating fans. I think that might be how they breed… I accidentally kick a fan, and somewhere else in the world a new oscillating fan is mysteriously born out of thin air.
Superpowered bodies are *entirely* glabrous? ENTIRELY?
Point: this’d make them extra vulnerable to ringworm and similar skin fungi.
Point: this’d also make it possible to identify supers at puberty, regardless of whether they’ve discovered their powers.
pretty much every attractive person is a potential supper.
body hair examination would just confirm it.
“Supper”…?
So, you’re saying that “Supers = Food”…?
DAG-NABBIT, that GAR-FLINKIN’ ROTO-SCOPIN’ Spell-Check is at it AGIN’!!!?!
Well, yes, every attractive person can potentially be eaten.
A person doesn’t have to be attractive to be eaten…But it does help.
Remember this gals…Most guys really do like to eat out, they just don’t like to leave the house.
Eye c wat u did ther.
…An old Gallagher joke…
uhm, no, that must have been a double click. i use firefox, so it doesn’t “auto correct”. at least not by default
“But Your Honor, I was just trying to see if she was a Super”.
Oh My! Dabbler in a polo neck sweater with a power girl ‘window’ is just perfect! Fellow Australians may wish to imagine her as a very NSFW member of the wiggles :-) “chugga chugga big red (bleep)”
The hypothetical strong man bank robber has a full beard.
indeed that is an example…
now how do i invalidate it…
he is an arcane powered lab grown human! or something…
only DaveB can confirm it.
Whoops, yeah, ok, I guess guy supers can grow beards.
… it could be a fake beard he’s wearing to look cool.
As far as chest-hair goes, James Bond (=Sean Connery, in “You Only Live Twice”) said it best:
“A Bird does not nest in a leaf-less Tree”
he might have been a different kind of “altered”
OF Course he’s “altered”… he’s a frickin’ Time Lord… don’t cha know?!
i do not understand how you made that connection… but sure, let’s have a time lord in a Grrl power universe… because time traveling has never gone wrong.
Wow, that was good! Shame it kinda ended like that, have been reading “Yet Another Fantasy Game Comic” for years, didn’t know he also did that “Doctor Bond” crossover
SUPER disappointing that there’s no body hair. I mean, dudes are busting out of their shirts all the time and can’t grow a nice pattern of chest and belly hair? I’m just sayin’ if I was a super, I would seriously lament my inability to look like I’m not a chest-waxing metrosexual.
Also I wouldn’t have my amazing beard and that would just be inexcusable. :V
I agree with you, for what it’s worth. I’m surprised Dave is painting himself into this corner. Leaving aside chest hair, I think men with no arm or leg hair are kind of strange-looking, and it’s funny that that is only coming up now.
“No one is a fan of back hair.”
From Harem? Hope that was simply context-based. Fetishes, applied to all possible candidates of the human race, know no bounds. That includes sub-pristine elements from human biology far less appealing than back hair…
Obviously, none of that for Sydney. Likes her men tall. Likes men’s butts. Likes toned, muscled bodies in men. Dabby likely hasn’t whined about her being ‘prude’ for her lack of kink in her sexual tastes for the last time…
that fanart is awesome tho the link for maxima’s is broken!
Hahahaha…. Boobwindow! XD
No hairy supers? I am disappointed. Stalwart would be hotter with hairy chest, belly, arms, and legs.
It would help make up for his shiny scalp!
Wart is not bald
Heh, Sydney still has her Wolverine crush going strong, you know… just a little body hair isnt so bad. Also, damn, harem is a seriously attractive woman (women) Dave, your artwork is getting better and more finely detailed all the time. Every now and then its just brought to my attention, like when dabbler answered sydneys call while something was in the middle of her for example. It was like all of a sudden her appearance had gotten polished.
For what it’s worth: I mostly prefer adult people to look like adult people. If you’re wearing something that’s incompatible with body hair, the problem’s probably the clothing rather than the hair.
OK, yes, I’m adult male hetero and that means I respond to the “nubile” cue of a shaved female. But when it comes to actually dealing with them as people rather than photos it isn’t a significant issue unless I’m getting hair caught in my teeth — which generally calls for mowing the lawn to a comfortable height, not clear-cutting, except perhaps on special occasions for startlement value.
But hey, as Dabbler points out, the characters are entitled to whatever quirks they want. (She isn’t a super either, while we’re on technicalities… then again she also isn’t human.)
+1. Not a huge fan of the plucked chicken look.
The Maxima link is not formatted correctly. Here’s what I get when I ‘copy link location’:
https://Maxima done in some sort of dress up doll program (I’m sure she’d be thrilled)
Yeah I pasted the wrong thing into the link. It’s fixed now.
I wonder if they still think if its still a nice combo when they see that their ideal candidate is Chewbacca?
Chewbacca isn’t a super, so he doesn’t count for that…His whole race is hairy.
Could you image a shaved Wookie?
I don’t know about shaved Wookies, but even a hairless bear showing aggression would be just downright horrifying. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/05/german-bears-mysterious-a_n_346904.html
Kanan: “Haven’t you see a Rare Hairless Wookie before?” *Zeb half-heartedly imitates Chewie*
Dolores is auditioning for the part of Beyonce’s body double, unfortunately, Dolores was still considered too attractive to be believable
The Maxima link doesn’t work for me either, and no link is show to me on mouse over, directly clicking on it produces no result, and same results as oberon from right-click ‘copy link location’
“https://Maxima done in some sort of dress up doll program (I’m sure she’d be thrilled)”
I know it’s a weird thing to be nitpicky about, but it’d be great if we got some sorta clarification on this hairless deal. I can imagine the lightning-based ones having some form of natural electrolysis going on, but then, wouldn’t they be bald on top as well? Is it some aspect of the force which provides the supers their powers? Are they the next level of human evolution where body hair is unecessary, but head hair is because it keeps our brains warm? This is what you get when geeks discuss the ins and outs of any particular subject’s canon.
Dabbler, SAPIENT. ‘Sapient’ means intelligent, often on or above the level of human. ‘Sentient’ just means possessing senses and consciousness. Insects are sentient.
Hmm, yeah, I thought sentient implied a certain level of self awareness and intelligence, but it seems I think that due to a lazy misuse in Sci-fi. I’ll have to fix that.
If you wanna get really technical, there’s three different words to use.
“Sentient” – Self-aware, adaptively responsive to surroundings, Usually connotes capability of emotions and empathy. So, not insects, clams, or grass, but cats and dogs for sure.
“Sapient” – Abstract Intelligence: logic, general problem-solving ability. Stuff computers are good at.
“Sophont” – Glossed as being both Sentient and Sapient, like humans. Sometimes considered as including self-motivation and self-definition (by which a beings behavior changes solely because its definition for itself has changed).
In practical use ‘Sapient’ and ‘Sophont’ are usually interchangeable because there are few (to no) examples of beings which are one but not the other. The distinction is mostly theory and comes up in discussions of strong AI – if we can create a general problem solver that doesn’t want things for itself and isn’t motivated by reward nor pain, which acts only to fulfil commands? That would be sapient but neither sentient nor sophont.
I think Sophont is a mostly sci-fi concept with little to no discussion outside of fictional contexts.
Nope. I can tell you that I encounter these terms professionally in the context of AI geeks discussing our jobs. I’ve got two patents in natural-language processing. I work with some of the guys who figured out Deep Learning for neural networks. And before I started on language work I was a KE for a logic-programming company that made inference-based expert systems. Where, among other things, I designed a credit-evaluation system that allowed a major company to extend more credit offers while suffering fewer defaults than when their best human employees were doing the same job.
I’m more than a little in awe, and think you’re probably the smartest person in the room. Wow!
Maybe not actually. There are lots of people smarter than me, just mostly smarter about different and/or more ordinary things. And the dirty little secret of AI work these days is that real insights about how consciousness actually works are few and far between; mostly we’re all doing wild-assed guesses about architecture and design of these systems, then trying them out and feverishly doing statistics to figure out whether they were good guesses. Our tools and building blocks have gradually gotten better on the strength of the occasional good guesses.
The profound insight, way back in the ’60s, was that if you figure out how to apply statistics to program performance, you can get a computer to see in the data what’s really there rather than what somebody expected to be there or what somebody was looking for. Everything we’ve done since, up to and including Big Data systems that infer tiniest details on threads of evidence, is built on that.
Could just be she would understand the word her current audience would be most likely to understand. How many times during the day does your average person hear either ‘sapient’ or ‘sophont’? I read science articles and science fiction and i still only hear those words once a month or so.
THANK YOU for pointing out this error. It really annoys me when people mistakenly mix up those words, and every time someone does it, it spreads the confusion. It’s actually amazing how often even well known authors miss-use it.
Don’t think it’ll be a problem in a live action version, as a live action version would like omit the lack of body hair and the incredible bodies.
Who’ve mention how well toned and muscled the female bodies are (you seem to have them more muscled than even the main comics do…figured it was meant to be that way) that despite there being women who do have the body to pull off a typical comic book hero, there just aren’t many who could pull off your universes characters and also act :p
that’s what CGI is for…
It doesn’t matter that Sigourny Weaver or Zoe Saldana, are both Humans… they sure did LOOK like aliens in the movie Avatar (NO, NOT ‘Avatar, The Last Airbender” :D ) they can do the same thing here for much less effort, heck Vogue and Cosmo do it all the time to their photo’s all the time! what’s to stop Hollywood from doing the same?
Considering that Sydney plans to wed Wolverine, I can see her disappointment in lack of body hair. Wolverine is noted for having significant body hair pretty much everywhere.