Grrl Power #312 – Succudigression
Dabbler obviously avoided the question of what happens when a Succubus is totally deprived of tantric energy asked on the previous page, like if she’s locked away where she can’t influence anyone. I’m picturing a Sleeping Beauty type trance (cause trance sounds sexier than coma) that will eventually lead to death, but they can last a while in that state.
This whole page was originally part of the previous one, which is why I had so much trouble getting it written. When I finally broke it into a separate page it let me fit in a few more gags like Sydney’s though bubbles and the tickle laser bit, so it’s for the best. Optimally though there should have been a pause panel or something after Sydney left before Dabbler started tinkering, but there you go.
If this page looks at all different to anyone, it’s cause it’s the first page I didn’t color all by myself. Allow me to introduce Keith Wood, who landed the coloring spot. He’s been involved in webcomics for a while, most notably Mysteries of the Arcana, which he currently arts. It was a tough decision to make. A lot of people applied, I never heard back from about half of them which isn’t that surprising for something like this. A few emailed back and bowed out gracefully realizing they weren’t quite up for it or acknowledging it was a lot more work than they expected (I gave them the inks for this page to work on, which was an intentionally complicated page as it has Dabbler in both forms and fading between them as well as Maxima, who is shiny and requires a slightly different technique. I needed someone who could jump right in.) In the end it came down to two people and I felt terrible having to tell someone they didn’t get it cause I’m a big softie. I went with Keith because I thought the way he colors would make for easy corrections. I color all the foreground on one layer (well, I break them in to separate layers while I’m coloring, but the end result is all the color, highlights and shadows are on a single layer, (then the background has it’s own colors, etc) where as Keith colors by flatting everything, then doing all the shading on a multiply layer above the flats, thusly:
The advantage to this is that all you have to do to change the color of something is just change the flats, and all of the detail is preserved. This technique is not without its quirks though. On the shading layer, you can flood fill the whole layer white, then set it to multiply which makes it transparent, then start noodling in the detail. The reason to do this is most blendy-painty tools act differently if there are already pixels there for them to blend with than if you’re painting onto a blank layer. It’s like… wetting the page before you start watercoloring. Obviously this technique doesn’t work on the highlights layer since coloring a layer white then setting it to Add, Screen, Luminosity or whatever would just make for a white screen.
So Keith colored this page and then I did some touch up to minimize the differences in our techniques. I gave him some feedback based on that and the second page he did for me, which goes up Monday, was much closer to the mark. This process has taught me that I’m really bad about finishing my background inks until I’m basically done with all the foreground colors. I have to get better about that so I can deliver properly finished pages.
So the point of all this is to free up some of my time so I could start putting the book together, and it worked! The first step is going back over all the corrections I have, and over the one weekend Keith was coloring for me, I fixed nearly everything! Remind me never to change a team’s seal or a character’s rank mid comic again. I haven’t uploaded any of the changes except one yet, I’ll probably do that after I get all the fixes done. After that, I have two bonus pages to draw (I think, they’re not necessary for the book, but they’d be a nice addition if I can manage) then I have to draw a cover, scan some early art, etc etc, then put together the kickstarter. No idea how long that will take, but at least it’s moving forward now.
Here’s a random thing that has nothing to do with the comic but I enjoyed it. I think we can all agree that John Carpenter’s “The Thing” is one of the all time great monster movies, yes? Well, someone wrote a short story that is The Thing, but from the Thing’s point of view. I thought it was quite good. It’s read out in an audiobook podcast here. The whole site seems really cool if’n you like short story Sci-fi.
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While Harem may be trying to filch the ‘Ticklinator’ for a bit of harmless pranking, the overlooked aspect is that its Dabblertech(tm) that has left her hands without -vorp-ing back to her lab. A feature prototypes and WIPs may not have installed, at least in this case.
If Harem is in double agent mode ATM, and can sufficiently distract Dabbler, we may see the prototypes big brother being used against ARC at some point!
Well it might still be in her bottom left hand as its off screen right now. Still, BAD HAREM!
Next page: Abbey accidentally triggers it and all five Harem start uncontrollably laughing and we find out that Dabbles hasn’t worked out a low setting yet (or something else hilarious, like an ‘off’ button) :D
Does anyone else notice harem goin’ for the tickle gun… tut tut, daphne, and you thought you were bein’ sneaky!
on second thought, maybe Dabbler MEANT for harem to get the Tickle Gun ™… so sneaky chaos about to ensue?
Think about it. Harem with a tickle laser? Given Harems track record with the other members of the team (blueberry soda, sit on face until proper office banter) giving Harem a tickle laser is almost garenteed to give enlightenment background tantric energy to keep Dabler full and happy.
If it’s not bio-coded, she did that on purpose.
“Harem with a tickle laser?”
The only thought more hilarious (or horrifying) would be Harem with FIVE tickle-lasers.
The official name for the new tickle tech will be:
Electronic, Laser, Molecular, Oscillator. Or the E.L.M.O.
+1
YES!! Make it so!!! :D
a few years ago my roomie’s performed some ritualistic surgery on a plushy Cthulhu doll i had and inserted the guts from a “Tickle-Me-Elmo” doll into it… now i have a Tickle-Me-Cthulhu”…. too bad they had to sew it in entirely, the batteries didn’t last very long and it’s a pain to re-do the sewing…. :D
open it up just once, and replace the batteries with a USB rechargeable setup, then just plug the USB in. (Or once it’s open, just close it back up with velcro)
Hah, Peter Watts is awesome! The Things is great but his own sci fi novels aren’t at all bad either! He open sourced them on his website https://rifters.com
Specifically here https://www.rifters.com/real/shorts.htm
Word of warning, Watts’ outlook is pretty darn bleak! Do not read if you like happy endings and pink ponies!
bleak? HA! I read books and watch moives where they make you cry for the Heros horses death. now thats bleak.
FIGHT AGAINST THE SADNESS, ARTAX!!
I’ve watched anime that makes Silent Hill look like Disney World. Horror that bad will make anyone’s outlook bleak.
I’d better steer clear then – I cry at Budweiser commercials… I wish somebody had warned me about the first 5 minutes of “UP” before I foolishly went to see it in the theater >.<
Watch the first 15 minutes of The Last of Us. It’s happy and not at all sad. *innocent look*
(anyone who’s played this game, do not say anything!)
Okay, by now it’s fairly obvious- Dave has a thing for chokers
..and your point is?
So, is the nun an illusion of a larger demon, or is the nun getting off with a large invisible demon? I’m confused.
The ‘nun’ is a succubus that is absorbing energy from (presumably) another nun in the next room showing the big bad crusader where to sheathe his sword.
That makes much more sense. I am no longer confused. Thank you Lydialeera.
And I don’t think “nun” should be in quotes. It looks like she really is a nun, keeping to her vow of chastity by getting sustenance from the masturbation of the other nuns. If she really existed she must have been a rather tormented creature.
So what you’re saying is that she’s nun of the above?
I’m saying her chances are slim and nun.
She’s picked a hard-to-keep “habit” for feeding herself.
That last pun didn’t make any sense, Midnight…. maybe you should altar it. It’s okay though. I don’t blame you for it. I blame Deof – he’s the one who started it so I blame hymn.
Don’t crucify the guy, forgive Him His sins. You shouldn’t be the one to throw the first stone.
Those are not exactly nun puns. You God-ta do better than that.
If you think I will wimple out of a challenge like that, you had better prey you can coif up my winnings! But, if you are penitent, I will draw a veil over the matter and grant you absolution.
Coif is a nun pun, but penitent, veil, and absolution were just used as regular words, not puns. Misuse of puns makes me very cross! Bad Yorp! BAD!
That’s it, Sister, you sort ’em out…
*hands Pander the nunchaku*
What a cloister puck.
You could be excommunicated if you’re caught monk-ing around with the nuns like that.
The nun is what it might look like for a succubus to survive entirely on enviromental tantric energy (so not doing any sex herself)
Explains why she looks oddly thin and pale (or is that just on my monitor?), the poor thing is starving, stuck eating the succubus equivalent of college ramen.
Is it just me, or does Dabbler look a bit younger in those last panels?
combination of the angle of her face making her jaw thinner and her eyes are completely open
Maybe she IS younger….. she did just have a recharge…
you’re right.
She looks even younger than Sydney in that 2nd last panel.
That is just DaveB‘s fluid style of art*, just check out the panel before it shows her ‘normal’ self
*that is not an insult by the way, DaveB has often used different ‘styles’ to show the mood, sometimes, like this one, several different styles on one page
Just found this comic and blew through it in a day. Great stuff. My only question is: if Sydney / halo (sydno?) wants lost Dr Who footage, why doesn’t she have Leon hack the BBC? In fact he’s probably already done so and has blooper reels and good nerd word kill for.
Unfortunately, a significant amount of the old Doctor Who footage from the 60s and 70s is completely lost (except to magical incubi). The BBC junked a whole load of the original tapes, with no backups. So nothing to hack :(
That, and this is only Sydney’s 2nd day on the Job (1st full day)
so she probably hasn’t had time to ask yet,
Did they junk the tapes,as in throw them away, or did they record over them?
None of the above Darrellsan, there was a fire and smoke damage rendered a lot of the film for the earlier episodes completely unusable, though the audio was largely intact (due to be stored in a different manner on the film). Some episodes were partially recovered, but many are just gone forever because of the damage.
There was definitely reuse of tapes. This was before home video, tape was expensive, and reruns were not thought of as valuable, so many old shows simply weren’t thought of as worth the space and the tape. Many treasures have gotten lost because of this. Part of the reason that some audio has been kept is that even in the absence of home video, some viewers recorded the sound off their TVs so they could at least listen to it again.
That however isn’t the cause in this case. They kept the recordings however a large batch of episodes in the middle of the 1st Doctor’s line were, as stated above damaged in a fire. Also the tape used for recordings is rarely reused as every time you record over something the quality degrades a bit. Also 1960’s is when the 1st doctor was around VHS wasn’t a household item until 1970’s
The BBC don’t have he lost BBC episodes, and if they did they wouldn’t be on a computer. And trust me, if they found it, they’d sell it. Box sets are one of their major sources of income. That and taxes.
DABBLER’S GOT A SONIC SCREWDRIVER!!!!!
Where do you think the Timelord’s got the idea from?
Pfft. Clearly they took that tech it from us.
I mean wait, what?
I never said I’m a timelord, go away.
Nuncubus the non-succubus is my new favorite character in this comic. I’d love to know the story behind that particular character. She is insanely adorable, as any succubus abstaining from sex surely must be.
Ooo, Nuncubus, I like it!
None of that Nuncubus
Then play the old game Planescape: Torment & you’ll get one in your adventuring party…
;)
I to find this an intriguing idea.
Firstly, bees need nectar to survive, not pollen. Pollen is just a way for the plant to trick the bee into pollinating other plants bu covering them in it while they go for the nectar which they make into honey.
Secondly there is no such thing as a boy-succubus. Because all male succubus are known as incubus. Same profession just for different genders, like men’s and women’s basketball.
And really, you got such things as magic, demons, superheros, and aliens. Of course there are going to be vampires!
Also chocolate stuffed ghost peppers? ……Eeewww!
Hey, just because we know the correct terminology for male and female ‘bus, we are talking about Sydney asking about the male version (same goes with the chocolate stuffed ghost peppers)
Maybe Dabbles doesn’t know the difference between ‘pollen’ and ‘nectar’, have you forgotten that she is still learning many words and terms in English-Terran (not to mention any other Terran languages she may be learning)
“Maybe Dabbles doesn’t know the difference between ‘pollen’ and ‘nectar’…”
What? You’re implying that a succubus, whose natural “prey” happens to be humans, doesn’t know anything about “the Birds & the Bees?” She’s even reminded Sydney already that humans need sex to survive as a species!
ALL multicelular, multigender species need some form of sex to reproduce and not die out.
That’s not so much a deep observation of the human species as a logical deduction of the concept of genders
In Dabbler’s line of “work,” she’s got to be “technically proficient” at the very least.
;)
Yeah, but she is still ‘iffy’ about some of the English words
“A rose by any other name would still smell as sweet.”
Then again, maybe not.
What if the first person to try smelling a rose up close happened to have a specific allergy? with face all swollen, he declares to name them “stinkweed.” Seeing his face all swollen like that while describing the flower, how many others would have to courage to smell one?
Actually bees do eat pollen. They take it back to the hive and process it into what bee keepers (I used to be one) call ‘Bee Bread’. They get the pollen all over themselves then comb it off and pack it into special pouches on their legs to take back to the hive.
In the coloring demonstration, Shadow Sydney looks absolutely horrifying. Can we make her a recurring character?
Ooo, Nega-Halo! YES!!! Please to be making it so?
Oh the unintended( or is it not?) double entendre with that “trainee” top, cuz “trainée” basically means whore in French.
And bees have 4 wings.
But, that is a Human-Bee-Vampire-Fish-Succubus hybrid, because Sydney :P (bees don’t tend to have scaly tails and fins)
And props to Dabbler. She was in a battle royale last evening, then was up most of the night keeping Barberian up most of the night (badumtish), and one of the first things on her ‘to do’ list for the day is addressing ARCs lack of non-lethal options.
For all we know the absorbing of tantric energy also works in place of sleep. Which would make her the opposite of me, as I always want to sleep after a good… meal.
Yea, don’t forget that Dabbler is super energetic right now. She’s got the equivilant of a suger rush
Meh, she’s a super ADHD genius. She probably was a little bored and started tinkering, and out came a tickle laser
Unless this is just happenstance, told ya it was Abbey who was the traitor spy (maybe she just wants to use the tickle-me-laser on… damn, really gonna have to write down Deus’ assistance’ name :( )
She would be Vale. I could see Daphine looking to zap her with a tickle laser. I could also see her trying to zap just about everyone with a tickle laser. I could even see her trying to zap herself with a tickle laser.
It would be good training. The sitimultion from a serous tickling (which is a combination of pre-firing pain receptors) can be very intense.
We also knew Daphine was doubling, don’t know if she’s tripling or quading or penting.
Thank you, knew it was something like ‘Vale’ :)
i wonder if her last name is “Yard”… for those of you that get it, congrats…
nope, it’s ‘Shire’
In the last two panels Dabbler dose not look right at all. Something is off about her expression and her head looks too big. Other than that I don’t see any huge differences.
It is just DaveB‘s style
I can imagine the interview for the colorist position:
Dave: There’s a lot more to coloring Sydney than people think:
Keith: For example?
Dave: Uh, Sydney is like an onion.
Keith: She makes people cry?
Dave: Yes…No! Layers. Onions have layers. Sydney has layers. Get it? They both have layers.
Keith: Oh, they both have LAYERS. You know, not everybody likes onions. CAKE! Everybody loves cake! Cakes have layers!
Dave: I don’t care! Sydney is not like a cake.
Keith: You know what ELSE everybody likes? Parfaits! Parfaits are delicious! You want to go out and get some parfaits now?
Dave: You buying?
Keith: Yes.
Dave: You got the job.
Parfait vou, Frenchie…
;)
i know it is a “quote” from a movie, but i have to correct “you” with the cake.
maybe unusual, atypical, “original”, but she is kind of like a cake. with each layer being a different flavor.
With at least one of the layers being chocolate ghost pepper?
Imagine that, as one of the tiers of a wedding cake…
That would be interesting.
Thickling laser sounds awsome. But she could go with a advanced vesion of a MAD, Mickro wawe Area Denail. Thats somethink that exist a non leathel weapon working on pain.
She could make a fun version
DaveB: “…a Sleeping Beauty type trance (cause trance sounds sexier than coma)…”
Well, there’s also the word “torpor,” but I don’t have any opinion on how sexy that might sound.
Trance, torpor, coma. The first unprofessional staff member working in the facility where a succubus is in that state will end up bringing her out of before too very long.
I would like to know about incubus too…someday…pretty please?
Heh. Sydney looks like she has the Triforce tattooed on her face in panel 4
Dave, do you have any plans to post any of the sample coloring pages?
I can post the inks if people want to take a shot at it, but not the submitted pages. I told the submittees that they were welcome to add them to their own galleries.
How about links to them, then?
Sure if they post them.
Dabbler looks so cute in the bottom-middle panel.
Yup, that’s her ‘happy horny tinkerer’ look :)
She is happy when she is tinkering, and she tends to be horny when she is happy :P
Hee – love how Dabbler has her tongue tip sticking out just a little while she’s working. n__n
Methinks I’ll be staying away from the whole ‘cubi discussion, though. >_>
I do that too!
I was unsure if that was her tongue, or a pouty lip – I settled on it being her lower lip because her tongue is not only bifurcated, but outwardly-slanted and sharp on both tips
Thank you for the content. :)
Dabbler looks adorable in the second to last panel.
Since it is becoming a recurrent topic I’m going to point out a detail that seems have not been addressed before.
Strictly speaking “tantric” do not means “sexual”.
The term originated in the east. Some oriental philosophies have “tantric” versions, ie influenced by the texts called “Tantras”, that actually gives to sex, or more exactly to sexual energy, (even) more importance that others variants do. However, Tantra (the general philosophy expressed in the Tantras) include lots more aspects than just sexual energy. It is a guidance to reach spiritual awakening, it is a mindset as well as a lifestyle.
But sexual repressed western cultures have had always problems to understand the inclusive liberal way that eastern cultures see sex. When a philosophy or, worst, a religion gives relevance to sex that becomes the main, if not the only, detail western minds focus on.
Then, a few decades ago, some western… I doubt to call them “philosophers”, took tantric teachings and trimmed them off leaving almost nothing but the sexual rituals and practices plus the concept of sexual energy as fuel to the spirit. Or something like that. Sadly they called its creature “Tantra”, overwriting the original meaning.
That newcomer western “Tantra”, nowadays called “Neotantra”, unlike the original one is not a philosophy nor a religion, but just a movement (pun intended) however it do succeeded in burns into western (mainly USA) minds the equation “tantric” = “sexual”.
That said, admitely Dabbler appears to know nothing but american style of life (she knows about Japan just the name for instance) so it seems kinda logical that she use “tantric” in that way.
I was thinking of pointing that out myself. Who knows, maybe someone will call out Dabbler on this in a future comic, and she’ll respond with what you said in your last paragraph.
Maybe, but I don’t really think that anybody around here, DaveB include, will care about such a minor thing like this, except for details obsessed freaks as myself :P
So…assuming Sydney was approached by an Incubus (or whatever) with Lost Episodes of her favorite shows and sltra-spicy chocolates, how fast would her willpower crumble?
Probably a lot faster than her willpower to avoid blasting Vehemence while under his Aggro-aura was crumbling…
Vampires do exist, the real question is what type are they?
O negative?
You really need to B positive.
I give this thread an A+
If the first poster’s name didn’t start with Plasma I would have only given it AB-.
^_^ But on a more serious note, if you haven’t donated blood yet or for quite a while, you should re/start doing so, especially if you have a common type like O+, after all it’s the common ones are needed more (cos they’re common) and thus those donors feel less obliged to be regular donors than those donors who have rarer blood types.
They don’t want my blood even though its clean I’m apparently unclean by association.
I wish I could, in no small part because it would mean the health problems I have that make me unable to donate would be gone.
The same would be true if you donated ALL of your blood…
I don’t think they’d let me. For some reason they’re concerned about the health of the donors.
I don’t care what type of vampires they are, as long as they’re not sparkly.
Sparkpyre make a joke of vampire myth.
As someone who grew up liking to play Vampire: The Masquerade, I hate the very concept of sparkly vampires or anything Twilight related. Not to mention the books are written like the author was illiterate, and the movies star people who can’t act.
https://collectedcurios.forumotion.net/t403-teen-vampire-crap
First time commenter and short time reader.
I wanted to say I’m really liking the way your art is evolving. Dabbler never really looked like she was in the same style as the others before. In fact she always seemed like she was added with ms paint and a copy paste. In the last couple pages she has really felt like she was IN the same world as the others.
In fact i would say that it felt like a lot of characters were in different art styles, and this new chapter has so far united them in one unified style. Said art style is one I am digging.
I”m Bringing as many fans to this comic as I can.
Thanks! It was my original intent to do each character in a slightly different style, then unify them with the inks and colors. Not nearly to the degree that Drawn Together was. Sydney’s more anime, Dabbler’s half anime, half traditional comic, Maxima is the always cool posing American comic like Jim Lee or Joe Mad, but those distinctions played out with varying success.
Typo Report!
Last panel, bubble 1: “a thing” should be “things”.
(or Syd is just having a brain fart – we all do on occasion…)
Last panel, bubble 2: “in to” should be “into”
No, she is referring to the concept of vampires, so they become ‘a thing’
Gratz on hiring Keith Wood, and grats to Keith Wood for being hired!
Since we are both doing a webcomic with Succubii/Incubii (or as I call them Ancubii), we shoudl definitely compare notes.
If energy deprived succubi are anything like a blood-deprived vampire from Last Blood, we’d be in serious trouble… Vampires in Last Blood won’t die even when starved of blood, but instead, after going insane with hunger for 50 years, they turn into intelligent zombies… which spread zombification through the usual zombie means.. also, vampires/zombies created this way gain the special abilities of their creator after about 30 days… guess what happens when a vampire with the ability to detect human blood 1000km away turns into a zombie?
Happy fun times all around?
Or do you mean “28 Days Later”?
Um…. is Dabbler making the tickle laser with a sonic screwdriver?
I must be the only person reading this webcomic that isn’t smitten by Dabbler at all. I could even do with the team totally losing her and not be sad about it.
Kenya/Anvil on the other hand……we need moar amazon Brazilian, please.
No worries, not everyone has to like every character, or even every character equally
Nah, not really. I like Dabbler alright, but I’m actually more interested to see more of Gwen and Peggy’s personalities. Mostly Gwen because there’s no clear reason for her to be kept around, dealing with things in a high official capacity, with Dabbler, Zeph, and Leon all at Archon’s disposal as well.
I’m all about Sydney myself but the rest of the girls are definitely doable. For me Sydney hits all the right buttons. Smart, cute, kinda shy, small but (hopefully) perky breasts and doesn’t buy into the female<male bullshit.
Yes, please. I know my roommate and I would like to see how we can do.
We’re both way too slow to try it professionally, but It would be fun.
About Incubi and Dabbler’s answer. As a straight guy I find Incubi uncomfortable. Having a guy who essentially forces me to be gay without my consent is seriously out of my comfort zone. I can’t really speak for the comic writer but the name of the comic is “Grrl power” not “gay power” so chances are Dabbler’s answer doesn’t have any hidden meanings and just means there are no Incubi. Perhaps succubi only give birth to other succubi or at least all females end up as succubi.
for one, an incubus wouldn’t force you, if you’re straight, but might attempt seduction, and could be as good at it as any succubus, in fact, may even decide to dress like one, if that’s what it took. But forcing? Where’s the fun in that?
One word: Evil.
Dabbler may be CN-girl, but that doesn’t mean all of her kind are.
Actually, if you were a straight male, they would more likely send a Succubus or not bother with you (why do all straight people, specially men, believe that gay people are out to ‘corrupt’ or ‘seduce’ them? o_O)
What?
You don’t have a problem with Succubi turning straight girls gay, but the idea that a male version could make you gay has you all uncomfortable? o_O
Dabbles didn’t say there weren’t Incubi, just that it was complicated but all Succubi are female
I guess I’m a bit biased here but essentially yeah. I find girls hot so I find succubi with lust aura that affects women funny. Not so with Incubi with lust aura that affects guys. It just feels… wrong. Now I don’t think gays should be burned on stake, or go through some idiotic conversion therapy, or anything like that but they just make me uncomfortable. Seeing two girls kiss is hot. Seeing two guys kiss is gross!
You know, I really like the look of the succubus in panel two. And if you can have fallen angels, why not rising demons? Dabbler is, by her own moniker, a dabbler. Her knowledge does not have to be all-encompassing and 100% certain. Besides, the average succubus would probably deny the existence of such a renegade…
Now the critter in panel 1? That is just plain funny. :p
To me, that succu-nun (wow, THAT term is conjuring up all sorts of mental images!) is pretty cute. I can see that the pic is showing us her natural skin color, but to me it looks like she’s blushing…ALMOST like she seems embarrassed for some reason.
DaveB a bit of reference materialn for what I assume will be a forthcoming session for Halo. Or at least as regards what will be happening to her.
The difference between comic date and today, for leapfrogging the technology can just be down to a genius inventor or superpowers accelerating things. Or you can do it the 2011 way, but that will seem so dated.
Mind you, the whole “stand still, for several minutes, whilst your photo is taken” does seem very Victorian! At least there are instant versions, but with one heck of a price tag (if buying the machine yourself).
Was that a sonic screwdriver in Dabbler’s hand?