Grrl Power #310 – Dabbler’s happiest meal
Dabbler’s hammer isn’t a physical hammer, it’s a melee only amnesia spell. I just happens to look like a hammer. It also isn’t a broad spectrum amnesia solution either. When Dabbler starts doing tantric stuff with someone, she can set a marker to roll their memory back to. She can’t just clonk someone with that hammer if they see classified documents or discover she’s really an alien or whatever.
The Barberian (named by you guys) should probably get his own Who’s Who entry at this point. I’ll try and get that up today.
Edit: To clarify one thing for those of you concerned and so you don’t have to go hunting though the comments for my response – Barberian fully knew what he was getting into last night, and he’ll eventually remember most of it, just not some of the more intense aspects. Her wipe spell is a bit like a flashbang, it’s a total whiteout for a while, then stuff mostly returns to normal. I will revisit this on a future page just to make sure it’s clear.
I was going to do a page of Harem driving with Sydney into the base and touching on the configuration of the building layout, but that would have involved me drawing car interiors and exteriors, roads, and some of the other vehicles Archon keeps in the garage. The real reason I skipped it though was while informative, nothing particularly amusing was going on, and I was having trouble with entertaining dialog. Turns out the previous page may need some clarification, so there might be material there for a bonus page for book 2, like Sydney asking if Harem has to compensate for the Coriolis effect and the like.
I thought “Unicorn Butt Patrol” would get more traction in the comments on the prior page, but as per usual on the Internet, everyone wanted to talk about physics instead. Here are two more treasure troves of bad book covers if you’re interested: Good Show Sir contains lots of older covers, usually painted with some measure of skill, and some of which honestly aren’t all that terrible, but a lot of questionable composition and material. The imaginatively titled Lousy Book Covers has more modern examples, so obviously prepare yourself for bad photography, lousy photoshops, terrible typography and even clipart!
Here’s the link to the new comments highlighter for chrome, and the GitHub link which you can use to install on FireFox via Greasemonkey.
magic mind erase hammer lol
all we’re missing is the “animated, overused, underrated “”KLONG” graphic upon the point of impact.
Or Ka-Bong!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=010aaw1Ajo0
It should be
Ka-Amnesia.
Or Ka-Forget.
Followed by
Ka-sleep.
Nah. This isn’t The Wotch. That ka-joke has been strung way too far anyway; best to leave it be.
Ka-NEVER!
That’s karazy talk!
Ka-Coocoo
“I am the Egg Man. I am the Egg Man.
Koo-Koo-KA-Choo!”
I ask of anyone who didn’t take the opportunity to read Yorp’s comment in a super silly crazy voice: how, and moreover why, does one keep existing when the world has no savor, and you reside in a grey void, unable to remember why fun used to be good, whilst numbly pantomiming humanity?
Poor Barberian.
Poor lucky, lucky Barberian
to experience such bliss only to have it taken away :(
‘Tis truely the cruelest of pleasures
Probably just as well – if he experiences perfect bliss he’ll lose his soul and turn evil…
Is……Is that an Angel referance?
If so I havent seen one of them in a while
Indeed.
Close enough. Although technically it is a Spike, from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, reference.
It does mention Angel though, so you get a pass, on those grounds. :-D
It’s not perfect bliss that will turn him evil; it’s perfect happiness. If bliss were all that was needed, Angel would have lost his soul to Darla when they reunited…or the Sisters. I doubt those three floating lovelies wanted Angel for his brains.
Wait. That didn’t come out right…
You are correct. Although, there was an episode of Angel where he ends up in a drug-induced state of ‘ecstasy’, and that also tipped him over the edge (but only temporarily).
The main question I would ask though was if it was Consensual especially seeing as she is wiping his memory, for all we know Dabbler just does the equivalent of a Demonic Roofie on him to have her way. Might be ok where she comes from to “well I need a recharge so I took it” but that sort of talk wont stand up in court over here missy!
You have a point…
…and the answer to that, taking into account that it’s a succubus, woud be either:
“Who cares?!?” or “Do me , next!!!”
If a super falls on Dabbler but doesn’t remember it afterwards, has it actually occurred?
And yes. That is meant as a play on that entire “trees falling down in the forest with nobody there to hear it” thing.
And the answer to both questions is “yes.” Even if nobody witnesses the tree’s fall, there is still physical evidence that it has indeed fallen. Just as Barberian can’t remember his fall, he still suffers from being broken by the fall.
Don’t try to debate whether it makes a sound. That tends to get infuriating to both parties.
Humour, dude. ;)
There really is no relevant debate on that question. It would be the same to ask that if someone commits suicide but no one ever finds the body, is that person still dead?
O.o
Not the same as ‘hearing a sound’ – sound is transitory and subjective. Finding the body is permanent and objective.
And by the way, when trees fall in the woods and no one is there to hear it, the tree’s sound output is in a quantum state of ‘making a sound’ and ‘not making a sound’ until an outside observer hears or does not hear a sound, at which time one of the quantum realities collapses.
Duh.
If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around, it makes vibrations, yes. But the question is whether the vibration is the sound, or if the sound is only the abstraction of the cibration that a brain connected to ears does. What I mean is, is it still a sound if it’s not being heard, or do sounds only exist in brains once the vibration is sensed by the ears? That’s the real debate.
cibration = vibration
Sound must be produced BEFORE a brain (with appropriate sensing organs) can detect it. The absence of an observer does not prevent an event from happening. Your argument is more Anti-Intellectual rather than Intellectual; it’s the antithesis viewpoint to reason & laws of physics.
I don’t have an argument, I’m merely saying where the disagreement comes from. Furthermore, I do not see how my argument is anti-intellectual. At no point have I attempted to dissuade anyone from intellect.
What I am saying is that people who answer “no” to the question argue that sound is an abstraction that happens in the brain when the ears perceive a vibration. It’s like this… you can put your hand on a speaker, or even in front of the speaker, but you’re not feeling sound, you’re feeling the vibration. Whether you hear it or feel it dictates the word we use to describe it: vibration, pressure, sound, etc.
I am not however arguing either way on the question. I am merely trying to explain the logic behind answering “no”. Whether you answer yes or no depends entirely on how you define sound. Is the sound the wave itself, or the perception of the wave?
It’s like how photons and light waves don’t have a color, color is an abstraction of properties of light waves. Speaking of photons, light waves, and observation, it’s funny you would presume to lecture a cosmologist on the laws of physics in regards to waves and observers. I’m intimately familiar with the way the very act of observation can affect the results of an experiment. There are many experiments and phenomenon which demonstrate this.
Particles that are not being observed exist purely as a wave function. To simplify what a wave function is, it’s a function that predicts the probability of a given particle being in a particular location and/or state. Until the particle is observed, it exists as nothing more than a wave function. When it is observed, that is when the wave function collapses and it begins to exist as a particle instead.
It is this probability that allows quantum tunneling to work. An electron can move through a wall that it is physically impossible to move through by becoming a wave function, and then having a probability of being on the other side of the wall instead of bouncing off the wall. The rarity of this occurrence depends on a variety of factors too numerous to name, and which fall outside of the scope of this comment.
If simply denying science or being ignorant of scientific fact is how you define anti-intellectualism, then your own comment is anti-intellectual. However, I define anti-intellectual as disparaging or discouraging intellect. That is anti-intellectualism is “my ignorance is just as good or better than your knowledge” and at no point have I expressed such an attitude.
Liar. You are no cosmologist.
Nothing happens if someone’s not there to observe it happening.
More specifically, nothing happens if I’m not there to observe it happening.
You’re all figments of my imagination.
Obviously I am a masochist.
I am actually. Not a PhD, but I do have a degree. I had the option to go down the PhD road, but chose not to because once you get those letters after your name, you’re basically stuck in academia or research on government grants. There’s no hope for a real career otherwise. I also minored in robotics. Ended up doing an internship at JPL about 15 years ago.
obviously it did happen because there are after all two witnesses, the obvious Dabbler herself has memory of the occurrence and than there is Sidney who remembers the event due to being on the phone with Dabbler while she was having the suggested “intercourse”
Totally consensual, just like Wilow erasing Tara’s memory and shagging her. /s
She has a “Lust Aura” that can sway straight women and can look like the guy’s ideal woman. I strongly doubt that consent is ever an issue with Dabbler. That does assume she rules out guys already in relationships, so as to not lead them into destructive life choices, which given her care to not ruin him for human women, does show her concern for his long term emotional health.
The real question there is whether such an aura, whether such a deception constitutes consent. It’s kind of like the guys who play Mr Right just long enough to get laid, then they ditch. Consenting to have sex with the facade is consenting to have sex with someone other than the one you actually had sex with.
Umm…Does Dabbler have a workout video? -signed eternally curious
any workout video dabbler did would have to be xxx rated
You mean workout service, right?
i think thoughs kinds of services are illegal in america
Well, she’s profiting already, and with the amnesia you really can’t say for sure what the core workout was…
not in Nevada.
Dabbler could make a (figurative) killing if she decided to make a career of Personal Trainer…
And classified, unfortunately. So you need to become some high up general before you could watch it.
I have never been more motivated to join the Army
Or have a name that starts with X
So would Sydney need to be a high ranking general to watch it?
For science!
i never really thought about Coriolis deviation for teleporters what is it about 500mph average for america or is the jump relative to the starting point?
Given all the supers out there, and the variety (plus subsets) of t-porters this includes, a case could probably be made for both all and none of the above.
Roughly 1000 mph of spin at the equator. But then what about the earths speed in it’s orbit around the sun, and out solar systems’s speed around the galactic core? and our galaxy’s speed in the expanding universe?
Speed is relative.
Wow… I think this is the closest I’ve ever been to being the first poster.
Not that I’d ever say that word anyway.
Don’t be ashamed, there is nothing wrong with being a large picture on the wall.
To summon this up -> what a cool and funny page. That is the best mind erase method ever
love the debriefed – were’s my underwear joke
Even though Hiro only pantomimed a “debriefing” with Maxima last night, Dabbler took it literally with the Barberian. So this page settles the previous discussion & conjecturing from we readers about who Dabbler was with last night when Sydney called.
Dabbler is so recharged she’s practically rocking a different art style
or character definition..
(She looks a little different then before…?)
na she is just being bouncy and energetic i would say its a lot like a sugar high
Diferent (wilder) hairdo.
Hmmm. Barberian… He styles hair. And then she adjusts the chair, the couch, the floor the bed and finally the frontal lobe (multiple times requires multiple taps I guess).
Well, he is a hair dresser.
i think its ment to be bed hair
Yeah, it’s even a hairstyle that professional hair-stylists do…It’s called Bedhead.
She normally wears he hear back. Today is all messy from last night’s action.
She’s wearing her hair differently today, and honestly her face is a little… I don’t know, rounder or something in that first panel.
Plus with all that extra energy she’s more animated (less subdued) so her facial expressions are quite different.
I noticed it immediately. I like the changes muchly. I hope you that you keep them.
Hm, Dabbler’s comment does make me wonder – would Halo be yummy and full of energy in the same way a ‘traditional’ super powered female would be? Her powers aren’t natural or built in, after all, but maybe something about the orbs has changed her, or something about her allowed her to use them in a way that others can’t, making her a power supply-type super…
she might be slightly more sweet then the average person ^^
Spicy, more like!
HAH! Sydney would probably give her the fire shits!
Sweet’N’Spicy, just the way I like ’em.
Actually, Sydney is acting a bit more “sour” than “spicy.” It has to do with what Dabbler is implying at the moment…
Being a vegetarian would make her sweeter in some senses, but that may well be countered by her love of serious spices.
Being smart, hyper and able to float/fly Sydney would probably be a very fun lover.
I was just thinking the exact same thing, which makes me feel less nerdy that my first reaction to the possibility of lesbian succubus sex is “Wait, would that even be practical for Dabbler?”
I guess the comments section really does love it’s physics (or in this case metaphysics) discussions.
Well that depends on your exact definitions of how Succubi work.
In some tales they suck the ‘energy’ directly ‘out of a man’.
In others, including Dabbler’s case, she draws power out of erotic energy that’s all around while doing the Horizontal Tango
Hmm, while she feeds (at least somehow) from the latter, the first is not completely ruled out, isn’t it?
Some descriptions have the Succubus drain a year of life from the ‘victim’ for each encounter.
Heh, those are the last years of your life. They suck anyway.
Worth it
Well, if you gotta go, might as well go with a bang.
:D
Well she is ADHD, which gives her extreme amounts of energy.
I wonder if that counts
Controllable tentacle… need i say more?
Halo’s powers (ie, her orbs) don’t even register to any of Dabbler’s scans though (if you recall from when she tried to do a scan of the orbs and couldnt get ANYTHING from them).
The tentacle IS there though, and it’s a physical object
You’re assuming. There’s nothing which has shown that the tentacle is actually there (or not there) any more than that the orbs are actually there (or not there). The orbs were able to directly attack other people as well, just like the lighthook can.
Fine, I’ll rephrase it.
The energy that is projected by the Hentorb, which apears to the eye as a tentacle, behaves to all human senses (and aperently succubi senses aswel) as a physical tentacle.
Therefore, for the purpouse of human/succubi interaction, we can treat it as a tentacle.
There is SOMETHING there. Be it telekinetic energy projected by the Orb that, for some reason takes the aperent properties of a tentacle or IS a tentacle, doesn’t matter if you can’t tell the difference
In other words, as expressed by a famous Vulcan, “Any difference which makes no difference is no difference.”
The point I was making is the orbs don’t give off any actual register-able energy signatures, despite having an effect on the world. So it’s quite possible that the items made BY the orbs won’t give a register-able energy signature as well (despite having a definite effect on the world, like the PPO or the lighthook).
So it’s quite possible that Dabbler wouldnt get any ‘energy siphon’ from the lighthook since she siphons tantric energy (and possibly converts other energy into tantric energy, which she can then siphon). The orbs’ energy is probably NOT something that she can siphon, since she can’t even seem to register it with her tech.
Dabbler wouldn’t get any Tantric energy from the orbs, no. Tantric energy is a specific “wavelength” of biologically-generated energy. There doesn’t seem to be any kind of biological origin to the orbs, so they won’t generate that kind of energy.
However, if Sydney was using the orbs for that purpose (not friggin’ likely!), then Dabbler might get Tantric energy from Sydney, but still nothing from the orbs.
Asuming that Vehemic energy works the same way as Tantric energy does (which is probably does, since Dabbler compared them in her example), the energy isn’t sucked out of anything. It’s created (or converted out of some extra dimensional energy source that provides mana to all magic) during a violent/erotic act.
Meh. Energy isn’t created or destroyed – it’s converted or transferred :)
Then again this is a webcomic about superheroes and superpowers, so the laws of physics might occasionally take a back seat. But DaveB does tend to subvert a lot of those tropes when it come to ‘That’s not how science works’.
Personal theory – perhaps the orbs are from a higher dimension, so can affect and register this dimension, but can not be registered by stuff in this dimension … sort of like Flatlanders vs a three dimensional being.
So, if she wanted to ruin someone, she wouldn’t go for memory erasure? Poor bastard.
Or she could set a restore point,
NOT ‘do the deed’, reset, and tell the guy
he was ‘alright’ but not exactly ‘Triple Bonus’,
If you get my meaning.
(mrbean.jpg)
She’d have to do it to one of the Archon guys offcourse.
I vote Math as test subject to see what happends (he’d probably go insane)
I don’t get it: What would be point of resetting after NOT ‘doing the deed’, to before of NOT ‘doing the deed’?
Otherwise there’d be no ‘lost time’ as seen in alien abductions.
i am VERY jealous of her hammer too i swear hehe
I wonder if Jerry learned the Hammers from Dabbler, or vice-versa?
Wait. Is that an EGS referenceI see.
Bang, bang, Dabbler’s silver hammer
Came down upon his head
Bang, bang, Dabbler’s silver hammer
Made sure his memory fled
Now you got it stuck in my head, the part of The Love Shack song that goes, “Bang, bang on the door.”
Fix that by listening to Stevie Wonder – Bang Bang
Barbarian thought she was a librarian
but he was so wrong
now we sing this song
so we won’t forget she’s a de-eE-mon
I heard Nancy Sinatra’s Bang Bang(my baby shot me down.)
Do you mean “jealous” or “envious?” Jealousy is the worry that someone is taking away something you already have; Envy is the desire to have something that already belongs to someone else.
Speaking of underwear is Dabbler going commando in a see-through skirt in the last panel?
Or she is wearing a see-through skirt and tights beneath that.
But if it is only the skirt she shaves.
She might no have pubic hair. She isn’t human after all and might not need it for the reasons humans do.
If I recall, she’s actually a furry of the very short, velvety type. So most likely no pubic hair as a separate, um, “entity”. Just the same soft, short nap…
what was I saying again?
Most furred animals have LESS hair around the genitals than elsewhere.
I’ll never look at a pool table the same way again…
Cue the puns!
Just remember it’s all in the stroke.
I’ll never play pool again. Just the thought of getting my balls racked…
I’m sorry, I eem to have lost my train of thought.
That’s not a plus for everyone, you know.
….Also, curious where her ‘extra muscles’ are located…Even Halo has figured out what they do, however.
Vagina Lingua? (much more fun than Vagina Dentata for the owner’s partners. Unless they have some truly scary vore fetish.)
The extra muscles are probably a myth. All women (and men) have Kegel muscles, after all. With sufficient strength, i.e. superpowered strength, they would be sufficient for a large amount of additional stimulation during sex.
Pubic lice (aka crabs) are apparently an endangered species due to the current trend for women (and men) to shave/wax their pubic region free of all hair.
Judging by the lack of leg stripes, my vote is for something akin to harem pants, at least fabric-wise.
It’s actually a magic skirt that always lets you see a silhouette of what’s underneath, but no detail.
Really? I coulda swore I saw stripes.
It’s open on her hips still (panels 4 and 11 you can see that).
I think that was just shading on the skirt itself. But when I blew it up to look for stripes I did see something more important than stripes anyhow.
I coulda sworn there was a hint of camel-toe.
there was an Anime I saw a few years ago, in which this bunny girl had a magic mini-skirt, it was short enough to give a hint, but long enough so that, no matter where you were relative to her or what position she was in, you never saw anything.
Dabbler’s full of pepper today. Must have been really good sex.
…
How many orifices does Dabbler have?
And how many extra muscles are in those?
It could just be her extra arms. Or not.
Maybe only the usual but due to a very very mild version of the shapshifter parent’s DNA they can always seem like very different ones to the last time?
since she’s a shape shifter, as many as she wants
I’d’ve sworn Dabbler wasn’t so much a shapeshifter as an illusionist.
Officially yes. But do note the irony that she is part doppleganger.
We do not know the limit of Dabbler’s powers yet. Shapechanging may well be amongst them, even if the US government does not know that.
#HammerSpace
Caint touch that. ;)
That amnesia hammer has me disappointed that Dabbler’s “customers” won’t be buying any of my Brain Bleach™; I can smell my profits burning from here. Dabbler could always have one of those conjured up, because in her line of “work” there’s no telling when she might need it; she could keep it stored in Hammer Space…
Ahh yes the transdimensional hammer, the feature of many anime’s usually welded by an annoyed female in response to something a male has said (over use may result in a personality change in the male)
Okay… it may be just me but do the writings on the hammerspace hammer translate “Amnesia” and
“Forget” or am I just seeing things?
Up “REMEMBER” (up side down)
Down (hitting) “FORGET” .
Sorry, up side down is “FORGET”
Unless you see it from
umop ap!sdn
I think you meant.
uʍop ǝpısdn
Cudos on managing legible inverted writing with standard characters, however.
not to drag the situation down, but super heroes with forget powers, esp in sexual situations, kind of bug me.
It’s not so much a super power, as it’s a magical hamer
I believe it’s the potential for abuse that has Ms Duck worried.
Ms. Duck isn’t the only one. I presume consent was given, but wiping a person’s memories seems unnecessarily cruel.
i think we need to remember dabs is a demon. i whouldent expect her to be overly moral, that being said however as she is working for cops and was in a cop building with a detainee shew almost defiantly got connect for the fun stuff if not the hammering.
There’s definitely a potential for abuse. Dabbler is very sex positive as you can imagine so she generally makes the process amicable to all involved parties.
the same argument could be made for when superman did it to lois lane in the movies, or prof x to moira in those movies.
sorry boss, but it’s still creepy; by removing the memoires of the event, you remove the consent in any real manner. combined with the possible negative health effects of a succubi, it’s uncomfortable when you get to the unfortunate implications.
then there’s the fact she’s super sexy, and can make people fall in love with her…
to borrow Larry Wilmore ” It’s kinda assualty. not saying it’s in assault town, but it’s in the suburbs.”
-that and my inner lex luthor says, if the bad guys found out about this, could use it to ruin the heroes pretty darn hard.
There are some extenuating circumstances here, though. Not saying you’re wrong about what you’ve posited, but as she said, she’s Supernaturally… impressive (in bed). As she herself says, this one stand could potentially have caused him to be unable to be ‘impressed’ by anyone else, ever again. As Dabbs isn’t planning on settling down with Zebra-hair anytime soon, this process works to allow him a normal life afterwards.
I disagree. Removing memory of the consent and the act after the fact does not remove consent. It does bring into question whether or not an individual did, in fact, give consent… should the matter ever come up at a later time. But forgetting that you said “Yes” is NOT the same thing as not saying yes. It would be a lot more iffy if she only took away memory of the consent but not the sex, because then her partner could honestly say “I don’t recall agreeing with that,” but with no memory at all, there is no trauma and no rape… IF consent was given ahead of time.
Now, the taking of his memories without consent –even if it is to protect him– is a different story. Unless the government has deemed sex with Dabbler as a national security issue, there’s no legal reason for her to take the decision to erase someone’s memories. While not sexual, it’s still a form of rape in that it’s her enforcing her will over his body (which includes his brain), violating it, and taking what she chooses from him.
MAYBE it might be best to illustrate later on that Dabbler gets the consent to remove those memories for the individuals’ own good. As long as getting to the sex was all on the up and up, and then she explained and got consent for the memory wipe… then it’s all good.
she doesn’t permanently remove the memory of the event. but it should remain fairly toned down. this would be akin to an Actor toning down his heroics in a movie made about his actions during a war to make it more believable to the rest of the world. with unaltered memory of the event its very likely that he would go insane.
also a response to above responses
She may not be removing his memory of giving consent, just everything that came after it. in that situation, to him he said yes, then became grossly overtired for no apparent reason except for those muscles that he remembers nothing about.
That doesn’t change how tampering of memories in general is questionable. For this time she could claim ignorance to legal/earth-ethical problems (obviously not unethical to succubi and their hybrids) so that she/dave can deal with the problems later.
Wait wait. The gamer text — “Amnesia” , “Forget”. Is that an actual font?!
ME WANT!
And lo the spell check jumps in and swaps gamer for hammer…..
The one above is “REMEMBER”.
I second this notion.
It’s hand drawn unfortunately. :)
In that case, can you put a cypher on your DeviantArt page?
There _are_ ways to make hand-drawn fonts, you know…
Try
https://www.dafont.com/elder-futhark.font
come to think of it, the rest of the page has some interesting ones as well
https://www.dafont.com/theme.php?cat=705
Oh my goodness! The eyes on Dabbler in the third last panel are… Magnificent! Just the right level of quizzical annoyance, I may have had too much caffeine today though but … and the happy eyes in the fifth panel…my god the eyes!
She may remove the memory from his mind… but there is such a thing as muscle memory you know *BADUM TISH* xD
Also… does this mean she cant/wont “Train” a super human to do things she likes? The better you know your partner the better you can please her.
She is propably to interested in trying out new/exiting stuff to get a real relationship, so that whole idea would backfire. Even more so then with other doomed relationships.
She seems to nice to do that.
That was Dabbler does right there, has to be labled torture. That guy is destroyed and does not look satisfied. How would you feel if you are total out of energy and than find out, you got the best sex on planet earth last night and cant remeber a thing.
Reminds me of an episode of The Venture Brothers. Hank got laid. Then he got his mind wiped. He was just smart enough to leave himself a message to let himself know what it was like.
He had his mind erased because he learned that he had sex with his half-brother’s mother.
I spy with my little eye Dabbler eavesdropping.
Those nice subtle details :)
dam i totally missed that till you said it was there
I’d like to say it’s really cool that you adopted the name Barberian
I’m wondering if his actual name is Ian. Thus, he renames his shop “Barber Ian”, and advertises with “super savings” or “criminally good value”. :)
The is a game in development that’s called “Barbara Ian”. The lead in is he is a transexual barbarian who conquers dungeons. Everything has 1 hp including you.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=392496927
The fact that Dabbler whips out the Hyper Dimensional Hammer when Gonad the Ballbarian responds to her comment about “Muscles”is too freakin funny.
I wonder if the people commenting would be aware of the double standard if the genders were reversed.
I can see one situation that would make it at least somewhat “acceptable” : if she asked for his concent before the act itself and obtained it. The same logic might also apply to the ethical aspect of the mind-wipe, even if done “for his good”.
Something like “I can give you the greatest pleasure even felt by any man on earth, so intense that you will feel drained for hours after the act, but I will have to remove the memory of the act after that for your own mental stability. Do you accept ? Yes/No ?”
Yes!!!!
Will it fix my insomnia?
Even so, that Lust Aura of her’s complicates how much free-will was actually involved. However following this thought train any farther leads to very murky philosophical ground. So I’ll just stop here.
I’unno. There’s something unsettling about the fact that she’s allowed to grab a prisoner, sex the life out of them, and wipe their memories of it ever happening. Does consent apply if your memories of the event are ripped out? Did he know it was going to happen? Sure, high fives and whatnot for tapping dat ass, but realistically if it were gender flipped it would be a bit creepy as hell.
It’s all legal. He is under the SSSS (Sucubbi Standard Statements for Surrendering): https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1420
To a succubi, to whom all words are taken as having a sexual component, I could see them having great problems seeing the word “surrender” the way humans do.
Also, he’s not a prisoner. He was just taken in for questioning.
One of the questions just happened to be “do you want to have the best sex you’ll never remember?”
I have to agree – as funny as this scene is, there are all sorts of problems with it. The only thing that could save it would be prior informed consent. I know a little about informed consent from the drug development world, so here’s my first guess as to proper informed consent for this:
1) No coercion, direct or implied.
1a) That means ARCSWAT has to tell Barberian that he is free to go and no charges will be filed. FIRST.
1b) Dabbler can’t use a succubus aura to seduce him.
2) Full disclosure of all the downsides that would not normally be expected in those circumstances.
2a) Far more than normal tiredness. He also needs to know when to expect to be back to normal.
2b) Memory erasure for the night. He needs to know about possible side effects from that.
2c) If she intends to use the succubus aura, she needs to disclose that also. Before using it.
3) Providing magical/medical care in case those downsides are more than expected. He needs to be told care is available.
4) She can’t take away the memory of the consent. Ideally, there should be a written contract or a video of him accepting the bargain. If a record exists, both parties get a copy.
5) Third party review of the possible safety problems and the informed consent.
6) Like normal, if he calls it quits in the middle (not likely), everything stops and he gets to leave. He has to be told that up front, though.
That ought to do it.
All that being said, Dabbler is an absolute riot when she is on a sex high. :D
There’s an episode of Monsters vs Aliens (The Animated Series) where
missing time makes them suspect their memories have been edited.
In the process of confronting who they think is responsible they see
something so disturbing they erase their own memories.
Now even MORE time is missing and the memory eraser is still warm.
This repeats several times.
(Spoiler: Bob is the voice of reason in this episode as he has no brain to erase.)
i’m sure there’s a standard form for all of that somewhere.
“Does consent apply if your memories of the event are ripped out?”
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/doesnt-matter-had-sex
:D
Dammit, I need to go to work and I can’t stop laughing….
Dave – perfect drawing of head from underneath on panel 7. You got skills, man!
Thanks, it’s getting easier with practice.
So this is Dabbler, on the succubus equivalent of a, sugar rush?
i think so at least that whould explain why she is bouncing all over the place. the outer possibility is that superpowerd people have an effect like alcohol or a mild drug
It looks to me that the Barberian got the sugar, even though Dabbler had the sweet-tooth…
Am I the only one bothered by the ethical implications of Dabbler using her power to get people to sleep with her and then removing the memories? Sounds kinda rapey.
she is a demon
Regardless of Dabbler’s own physique & musculature (what with her succubus/alien/plus-whatever-else heritage), she’s definitely not a body builder…She doesn’t build bodies, she breaks them.
She’s a Succubus. It’s what Succubi DO
Actually she’s only part succubus, which might be why he’s still alive. Dave’s world, so he can make up his own results of course, but in mythology the result of a night with a succubus is death (soul sucked out and eaten).
That depends on the myth though. There are also stories where they only take some life force, stories where they only take energy (which can be renewed, but results in something a-la Barberian), and I’m pritty sure I heard stories where the victim slowly (over multiple encounters) turns into an Incubus (the male version of a succubus) himself.
Remember that one of the originins of Succubi/Incubi is as explanation of wet dreams/pregnancy while the man is away (I didn’t cheat, it was a demon)
No – see my reply to Zeterai above.
Nothing kinda about it. This is RAPE! MIND rape even, which makes it even WORSE.
I DON’T find this shit FUNNY!
Since we’re jumping to conclusions here ;)
My guess is the hint is in what Syd said regarding the debriefing part. Since the barberian surrendered from what I remember before actually engaging any of arcswat he wasn’t taken with the rest of the combatants to be debriefed at a more secure location. He still had to be processed though so was taken the arcswat HQ. I’m going to guess (Hope) that he’s been offered a place as a recruit (same as Syd) to go through the normal training etc.
When the whole dabbler being drained came up he was probably extended the offer (with all the details)
It would make sense that this is not the first time Dabbler has had to recharge. I’d be more worried about how she got her recharge in the past honestly. But then gigolos are a thing…
I’m not sure that the Barberian really wants to know what happened to his underwear…It’s probably in no condition for practical use anymore.
Dabbler (imitating a thick German/Nazi accent): “Ven I debrief zumone, they STAY debriefed!”
To put your mind at ease, he fully knew what he was getting into last night, and he’ll eventually remember most of it, just not some of the more intense aspect. Her wipe spell is a bit like a flashbang, it’s a total whiteout for a while, then stuff mostly returns to normal.
Ah, that helps, a little as far as his problems go. Doesn’t do much for what others could make of it given he’s a witness, possible suspect, etc…
Sorry if this comment existed before I made some on the 2nd page. I got carried away and commented before I scanned for author truthage. Hard to tell with how some servers timestamp things.
I find it interesting that some people would just asume that fun with a succubus is a one sided decision.
It wouldn’t hurt to asume good intentions people, especially in a comic about daily interactions with superpowers
She isn’t like the others. The parts of her from the succubus side are pretty much been tailor made for getting what they want from others whether they would naturally want it or not. Even without overt “power” usage she brought Vehemence low with the inherent power of Hypno boobs which I don’t think can be turned off. Probably not the only natural part of her that does that sort of thing.
But I appreciate the importance to her character that she tried. I think that’s great and says good things about her.
As serious of an issue this would be in real life, I for one can make the distinction between real life rape & Dave’s work of FICTION for the sake of humor. If he were “reporting” a real-life succubus doing this, I would be fearful & quite reactionary too.
Just as playing an online shooter game doesn’t turn people into mass-murderers in real life, this comic won’t turn anyone into a succubus either.
It was oddly appropriate that there was 69 comments when I read the comments section………just saying………Literally a hammer. Sweet!
You all do realize that it was only AFTER Dabbler had been exposed to old school Saturday morning cartoons was when she developed the “hammer” effect for this spell. I am guessing that she is a huge Looney Toons fan, and probably has a poster, nay, a black velvet painting of the “God of Frustration” on the wall of her bedroom.
That kind of humour is part of what I loved about that series.
So…where exactly did Dabbler “drop in” from? (panel 4)
The balcony – you can see it at the top of panels 2 and 3. Also, back in Math vs Anvil, and when Halo & Peggy were ‘assessing’ the men.
Yeah, I knew it was there, just took a bit to realize what room they were in. Also totally missed the tip of Dabs’ ear showing above the railing in panel 3. Nice entrance though!
Is that a Magikano reference?
Also, he’s just gonna be wandering around aimlessly for a while isn’t he?
Like a zombie
This could quickly become an entertaining running gag.
In Barberian’s case, more of a “staggering” gag until he recovers.
Nah, they’ll probably just feed him up and tuck him in for a 24 hour nap.
Remember to feed him something containing lots of proteins. He’s probably a little short on those
Perhaps that will give the other ladies a chance to overwrite the temporarily suppressed memories with something close enough to “normal” that he will no longer be completely ruined for human women. Though he may pick up a strong fetish for twins…
Given how drained he looks I suspect Barberian won’t be up to providing intimate entertainment to anyone for a couple of days.
Blue pill?
Plus Magic?
(hey if people expect me to accept space magic as an explanation for every little thing… then why can’t I have this? TT )
The wonderful thing about imagination is that anything’s possible.
Dabs is looking a lot more slender, I take the more youthful appearance is from her “Fun”
Hard to say since she seems to have a lot of control over her mere “appearance”.
I’m gonna go with “she deletes their memory so they don’t go around talking about her madness inducing alien genitalia” as a more probable reason, personally. If all her partners end up gibbering in padded cells it’s gonna hurt her chances on a friday night when word gets out.
Well except for the Bros he all want to put it to the test
https://www.cc.com/video-clips/lcmsip/drawn-together-octopussoir
Ummm…I saw all of the episodes of that series & even the full length movie made later. I didn’t need to click on your link to know what you’re talking about…
But I have to admit that it’s a good reference for “reverse hentai”…
Not everyone has such a good memory. I recalled the idea of it but not what it was actually called or any of the specifics. Over time most things, for me, just get slowly crushed down to outlines and concepts.
Its like she has the spawn of the old ones in her pocket. Which the above “madness inducing alien genitalia” brought to mind.
I want a magic amnesia hammer!
Maybe you already have one, but you accidentally hit yourself with it and now you can’t remember where it is.
That’s just silly. If I hit myself with it it would still be in my hand. Then I would be like “Hey wow, I have a magic amnesia hammer!” again, because I wouldn’t remember where I got it.
Unless the hammer is programmed to disappear after 2 seconds of use.
For some reason I expect Dabbler at some point to pull a spiked club out and yell “PI PIRU PIRU PI PIRU PIIIIII!” before smacking someone in the head with it.
Or maybe that’s more of a Sidney thing…
(Props to those of you that know that reference)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bludgeoning_Angel_Dokuro-Chan
well, Sydney, Barbiarian certainly did get debriefed, just not in the way you first thought ;)
I agree with Sydney … SO Want an Amnesia Hammer!!!
I REALLY want what Dabbler is wearing!
I can imagine many wanting you to have what Dabbler is wearing! :D
While you get that, can I have Dabbler?
I promise I’m full of energy
But you wouldn’t be able to keep it for very long…The brightest burning stars always burn out the quickest.
Especially when they collide with a black hole.
Not very nice… :(
Yeah, that totally sucked.
Get it? Black hole? Sucked?