Grrl Power #303 – Ratings are plummeting, film at 11
Yet another page where someone is weirdly cool discovering they know a person with super powers. For some reason my instinct was to move the dialog forward and not spend any time on the “OMG” factor, which is often the funnest part of a lot of superhero stories. I may revise an upcoming page to make Olivia a little more excited about it, though I’m fairly confident she’ll be the last person Sydney meets today who doesn’t already know about her powers and the events from the prior day.
I think I’ve decided that women just don’t carry purses in this universe. I forgot to give Olivia one on this page, after remembering several times during the drawing process that I should give her one, but the forgetting won out over the remembering. Honestly though I’d probably forget it on every subsequent panel anyway. It does make me wonder where Olivia keeps anything though, as she’s wearing yoga pants and a fairly tight… shoulder hole thumb hole shirt. I’m sure there’s an actual name for that. The lexicon of women’s fashion is enormous. Let’s call it a long sleeve tank top? With thumbholes? She might have her phone strapped to her arm under the sleeve like a jogger, and maybe a credit card and driver’s license jammed in under that, or she could be one of those women that carries stuff in her bra. A credit card or a few folded bills I get, but when I see a woman stick her phone down the front of her shirt I start thinking about greasy, sweaty phone screens and want to attack her with Windex. None of this helps us figure out where Olivia is keeping her keys. Certainly not down her bra. Anyone who does that isn’t allowed to complain about an underwire poking them. You might as well stick “that darn pointy sea urchin” or “a handful of razor sharp peanut brittle” down there.
Wasn’t quite sure how to end this page. The point of it was simply to reintroduce Olivia, other than that I wasn’t really sure what to do with it. Originally the page ended with Olivia realizing she just said she gets all her news from the Daily Show in front of a gaggle (herd? school? murder?) of “real” reporters, then she turns and says “Sorry but…” and did some mini rant about how 24 hour news networks suck, which I personally think they do, but that may be because I watch the Daily Show and they spend a fair amount of time skewering them. Well, I watch it on and off. Depressing news is still depressing even if you’re making fun of it. I had to stop watching John Oliver’s show for the same reason. All I can think after watching Oliver do 15 minutes on (insert organization here) is how scummy and crappy and greedy and selfish and short sighted people are – So instead I ended the page on a ratings gag! Ha cha cha! I’m sure there are plenty of twenty somethings that watch the news, but I imagine it’s their weakest demographic. I’m not much of a newshound myself, but I usually have a tab open to tweetdeck, and if something important enough happens it’ll show up there faster than the shockwaves of an earthquake.
I’ll try and be around and catch comments today (Monday) but I’m having my whole house recarpeted so I may be a little distracted. I’m not looking forward to disassembling my office. It should be nice though, the stuff we’re putting in is so plush compared to the old carpet that I may have to plane the bottom of my doors so they fit.
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Lets be real here, Mr. John Stossel lookalike. We get our news from the internet…
I usually watch Fox News or get my stuff from a news app I have
Isn’t Fox News supposed to be satire, like The Daily Show or The Colbert Report?
Hey, no teasing the Foxies! We had a lot of that the other day. It would be nice if we could avoid getting dragged into the political side of things again.
[Must resist urge to hunt the fox. No, no, stop sniffing that aroma.]
Move along. Nothing to smell here!
“Tosses a chipmunk towards Yorp.”
*catches chipmunk in flight and looks at you* Sacrificing that poor little sweetie! You’re mean!
*gets bitten by chipmunk* OUCH! Damn you, stupid chipmunk!!!
Olivia: Eh? Superheroes were so yesterday. Everyone’s into throwing chipmunks now!
Sydney: Really?!
Reporter: Yeah it’s really blown up. This is just a puff piece.
Sabre tooth chipmunks, gotta love em.
Or was that a vampire chipmunk.
I really should read cage tags more.
O well no harm done.
As long as it’s not a zombeaver, you’re fine.
If it’s a zombie like Liv Moore you’ll be better than “fine.”
BTW, speaking of zombies, the book Olivia is talking about in the first panel was “The Walking Dead.”
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Apparently you’ve never met the Evil Squirrel Overlord…
Besides what that one squirrel did to scare the living bejeebers out of Hex during the Super Smackdown last night, there’s also this:
https://www.henchmenonline.com/?p=757
at least it’s not the shadetale girl grace.
1/4 hd skeleton squirrels in small packs of d4+2 [Return to Ravens Bluff] and Sabre Tooth Salmon [3.5 Premier – GenCon Open]
The first went very very very badly but the second was and an interesting accent to an already weird final boss encounter.
So been there, done that.
Bunnies are more plentiful and filling.
Well, bunnies are cuter & we should be sacrificing more squirrels instead…See my reason above.
Bunnies are vermin. Sacrifice them all!
Any farmer will tell you that. They use cuteness as a cover.
NO SACRIFICE MOON BUNNY!!!!!!! there there usagi bad bloke not gonna hurt you.
Guys… you scare me… :-(
Don’t let it bother you too much. If God had not wanted us to eat bunnies, she would not have made them so tasty!
Nor would she have made them breed like, well, erm… something that breeds a lot.
I’m now wondering what sorts of reactions I’d get from family if I suggested serving actual rabbit for easter dinner.
If you intend to use rabbits in place of turkey or ham for Thanksgiving, I suggest you get quite a few…Each rabbit really only has about enough meat for 1 person, 1 meal, even if you add the more traditional side-dishes along with it. to be more on the safe side, some people are hungrier than others at Thanksgiving so you might consider adding an extra rabbit or 2, depending on how many people are being fed.
you just have to make sure there are side dishes with the rabbit. rabbit doesn’t give enough nutritional stuff to eat on a regular basis. i think there’s a term for dying from eating only rabbit.
Yup it lacks practically all of the vitamins and minerals that humans need to survive. It is dangerous because it is so counter intuitive. As it appears to be so nourishing.
Rather like the food at the other end of the spectrum, in terms of inverting that. The potato. If you were in a survival situation and only had the opportunity to grab a single sustainable food source, that is the one to go for. In sufficient quantity it can sustain human life indefinitely.
Mind you, if somebody was offering you any single food (say in a prison environment) then there is a much better alternative. Pizza. You can get all the nutrition you need with the right toppings. And yummy! Ok not very intrinsically healthy. But did I mention yummy?
Oh yeah, Yorp! Your redacted text just named the one kind of eating that I refer to as “Food of the Gods.” And for the very same reasons that you included. That food & some kind of drink to wash it down with (preferably beer or wine, which are also quite healthy in moderation) can keep a body going.
XD Yorp, you just iterated a new version of my usual argument for why pizza is healthy.
The tradition of the Easter Bunny actually comes from an early spring meal from northern Europe, so yeah it does. Also, like eggs, a symbol of fertility.
And they believed that hares laid eggs. So it does all tie in.
If you want to catch them, you have to head them off before they take that left turn at Albuquerque.
and it you want to catch them ALL, you gotta remember to have your Pokeball handy.
Oh that’s easy: Just stand behind a tree with a big sack and mimic the sound of a carrot ;)
I like Fox News. It’s like CNN or MSNBC though in a way – it’s a mix of regular ‘straight’ news and news entertainment shows and news talk shows. Like Stossel or the O’Reilly Factor or Hannity or The Five are news entertainment/ news talk shows – they have news as a basis but also have a lot more ‘opinion’ than a ‘straight news’ program would normally have – Stossel is a Libertarian opinion, Hannity’s a conservative opinion, The Five’s a mix of a bunch of different opinions (Libertarian, conservative, liberal, independent), etc.
It’s like Larry King (compared to O’Reilly Factor) or Crossfire (compared to Hannity and Colmes, which I think is no longer on) or Morning Joe (compared to Fox and Friends maybe?) or that Chris Matthews show (or the View or the Daily Show to a lesser extent, which is MUCH more about humor and mocking for laughs – sort of like Red Eye) while other shows like that Sheperd Smith show (I forget the name of it) or America’s News Headquarters or Fox News Watch is more ‘straight’ news, like CNN Newsroom or CNN Live Today.
You obviously can’t have a news channel with just straight news 24/7. It would become extremely repetitive and boring. :)
You can. Both Sky News and the BBC do just that. The fact that there is, on a typical day, only so much that can be deemed newsworthy does limit the content. So if you were to stay tuned to that 24/7, it would indeed be boring. But, once it starts repeating itself, it is a hint that it is time for you to go do something less boring instead/abbr>.
I can’t really respond to that, since I’ve never seen Sky News. But doesnt BBC have shows like The Office and Watchdog and Doctors and Pride and Prejudice and other shows which are clearly not ‘news’ or pure news shows?
The BBC has several channels. BBC1, BBC2, some kids channel, and maybe others too by now (ignoring the +1 channels that run with an hour delay). In addition to those though, it has the 24 hour news channel. Which only has news, analysis and such documentary features as match that concept.
naw, its only satire if its [i]intentionally[/i] ludicrous.
and apparently I fail at tags..
<i>Demonstration</i>
psst, you messed up too
Psst, no he didn’t. He was deliberately demonstrating how the tags should be written using angle brackets instead of square ones.
Supposedly there are tags which make other tags not trigger, like the code tag.
This is buried in another code tag.Hrm fail. Apparently It won’t show code tags in a code tags like most mediums will.
While we are at it, could someone please tell me how to use/make quotes and citations properly?
me too, i mean i can see the blurbs at the bottom of this text window, but which ones do we need to cut’n’paste to make a simple quote like Yorp does a few posts further down the page?
AAAND that screwed up what i wanted too… oh, well, but in hindsight i know why THAT happened…
Sorry about the delay in replying. I had been dognapping. The easiest way to use any of the tags is to simply copy and paste the examples given immediately the “Submit Comment” box that you use when making a reply. In this case choosing the following one:
<blockquote cite=””>
However that is actually more complicated than you usually need, say if quoting another commentator’s post here. So I typically simply it to the following format.
<blockquote cite>
You need to have that at the start of the text you are quoting, and again at the end. But, as with all of the tags, the end one must also have a “/” inserted. I have also added in spaces, to make it easier for you to read and/or copy this for your own use. But they are not necessary.
<blockquote cite> Quoted_text </blockquote cite>
If you want to get fancy, you can add quotation marks.
<blockquote cite> “Quoted_text” </blockquote cite>
You can attribute an external source, by using the full format. And copying the website address into the appropriate spot. It does not appear to do anything useful for us here though. But I assume that people doing internet searches can locate instances of where such quotes have been made.
<blockquote cite=”https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093779/quotes”>”Princess Bride quotes on IMDB” </blockquote cite>
Finally a very handy link to stick in your bookmarks is the following:
https://www.w3schools.com/html/tryit.asp?filename=tryhtml_links_w3schools
Because it allows you to copy and paste any of the examples above (the three formatted with sample text) into the box on the left of the screen (overwrite the text there). Then hit the “See Result” button, for it to display on the right.
And it makes it dead easy if you want to ensure that you have formatted any future blockquotes, or other, tags correctly.
Hmm… <i>italics</i> ?
Yay, it works. Now I just need to figure out the post version of <code>
echo off</code>.<Wax on> Wax lyrical. </Wax off>
Satire would imply that Fox news is funny. It’s rather more like hate mail disguised as news.
I’m old enough that I still watch network news. But really, the arguments that it sucks these days is a fairly accurate one. So I have no favored network and channel surf between them looking for good content. I have a rule for myself when I hit Fox: I will watch it until I see them state something which I know for a fact is inaccurate. Not opinions I disagree with, mind, but things stated as being factual which I know to be false. I rarely make it past 10 minutes or so.
But really, what is up with network news?
Fox is so far right that they can’t move any farther. Even their tame Democrats are just there to try to give them an air of legitimacy and provide whipping boys for the rest of the drones. And it’s hard to take news seriously when there is such an element of emotional appeal to their arguments. I don’t need a news show telling me how I should feel, just give the the information thanks.
MSNBC is just as biased towards the left as Fox is towards the right. Their only saving grace is that they tend to make reasoned arguments instead of making appeals to emotion. But I can’t count the number of times I’ve been watching Rachel Maddow and the following has happened:
Rachel makes point one. I agree.
Rachel makes point two. I agree.
Rachel makes point three. I agree.
Rachel makes point four. I agree.
Rachel arrives at her conclusion. I stare at the TV in disbelief, wondering how any sane person could string together points one-four and then arrive at the conclusion she just arrived at.
CNN is mostly a waste of time.
Oddly enough, and I only say that due to its affiliations, Al Jazeera America seems to have the best news coverage. Que people calling me a Muslim radical traitor communist fascist socialist Nazi sympathizer Buddhist terrorist…
Stand back folks! It sounds like Oberon is just about to spontaneously combust!
oddly i always like Al-Jaz when i was downrange. less “aliens” than CNN, more detail than BBC, and lets face it they were everywhere.
Oberon: Just wanted to say, just because a news channel doesnt advocate purely left wing stuff doesnt make them right wing haters. Actually there’s only I think two people on Fox News that are strict conservatives – Hannity and that Bolling guy on the Five. There’s more libertarians on there than conservatives (Stossel – yay!, and that Gutfield guy, and that guy who used to be on Imus, who I forget the name of). Plus there are a fair amount of liberals or people who have very liberal views often on it as well – Juan Williams, Geraldo Rivera, Alan Colmes, Bob Beckel (none of which you could ever say are even remotely right wing).
And O’Reilly who tends to be critical of both republicans and democrats (rather consistently), and apparently was okay enough for Obama to let him interview him twice.
No need to call them haters. Especially if you’re saying Chris Matthews or Al Sharpton on MSNBC have a ‘saving grace’ of making ‘reasoned arguments.’
[Déjà vu. That is the second time I have heard “Fox News” and then had a protracted buzzing white noise episode.]
Yes, yes. But “Buddhist terrorist” funny!
Of course Fox News is played for laughs. That hilarious tag line of ‘Fair and Balanced’ lets you know right away that it is supposed to be a satire.
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i haven’t had TV in any sort of “live” form in about 15 years and i don’t miss it, but i seem to recall that way back then, Fox News wasn’t actually classified as “News” but that it was classified as an “entertainment” program unlike the other “actual news” news shows… i don’t know how true that memory is, but it seems like Fox has just gotten worse in recent years and going off into lala land.
Fox News has a mix of ‘actual news’ shows, ‘entertainment news/talk show news’ shows, and some purely entertainment shows like that Carol Alt show or the Strange Inheritance thing.
Then again the same is said for CNN and MSNBC, and unfortunately for the last few decades, mainstream news shows have drifted into entertainment news as well. Which is probably in an attempt to compete with much more entertaining comedy programs which throw a little news in there for laughs, like the Daily Show or that Oliver show or the Colbert show.
That does give me some insight into why there is so much dissatisfaction being expressed for the US news media. Over and above the political side of things. Thanks for the interesting analysis.
I could see how entertainment news would have a useful social function. It reaches out to those jaded by the regular news. But you have highlighted the downside. Which I had not really considered so far.
Honestly, I’m 46, and I don’t think I’ve actually watched network news for more than ten years.
Internet and podcasts, what more do you need.
And don’t get me started on the last time I’ve read a newspaper…
I believe the year started with a 19.
I read the paper every day.
I read the local paper online. Or one of them anyway. The one I used to read, deletes inoffensive replies in articles that the newspaper staff don’t agree with. it’s been a running gag for several years now. Though in their defense, they don’t delete posts by anyone who is not a Republican or Democrat
I read… stuff on a paper regularly.
The menu at your favourite watering hole does not count.
I’m in the same boat, and funny you say that… I visited my grandfather two weeks ago and he still reads his local city newspaper. I was so beside myself that I read it after he was done.
And ended with one!
Ba-dum-PSHH
But seriously, in the 80s I only read the comics, other than my college paper I think I’ve read maybe 10 newspaper articles ever, magazines was where it’s at for reading until the internet, plus you had this newfangled radio and the color television…
I get my news from the internet, an all news radio station, and faily from the local TV news program.
Yep, I’m even older than WEKM and I get my news for Google News & news radio (KCBS) when I’m out driving around.
My mother still gets the paper though, so I read the funnies when she’s done with it.
We still watch TV news in our home, ghod knows why. Probably more basic habit than anything else.
Well, SOME of the news. Here in Australia, the networks are REALLY pushing the one-hour news program morning, noon and night. But we can’t be bothered with more than half an hour in the evening (watching more interferes with the NCIS reruns).
I can’t think of anyone in my family who watches news on TV anymore. Newspapers, however, I still see. Me, I tend to get mine either on the Net, or on the radio while driving.
The only newspapers I ever read are the free ones that I get when on the train. In New York there are two different ‘free’ newspapers where when you’re going on the train these newspaper hawkers pretty much shove the papers into your hands while you’re running for the train :)
Yea, me too.
*world rocks slightly*
[Could Pander be an ethical lawyer? Does that bear up to scrutiny? Wait, wait, there are other explanations for that behaviour.]
*world sets back gently*
Until there is a newspaper which does not push a particular political angle, which is not owned by any parties who might influence it’s content and which does not support the paparazzi, and other disreputable practices, that shall remain my stance.
I have never directly contributed a single penny to the industry. The most they get is, very rarely, including me in their free and second hand distribution demographics.
You’re unlikely to get a newspaper that doesnt push a particular political angle anymore for a few reasons – there’s too much competition from the internet (and newspapers are currently a dying form of news media) and people have so much choice that newspapers now tend to compete for ‘niches’ of news readers. There tend to be only a couple of ways around this:
1) Try to have a ‘mix’ of different political angles (this is rare unfortunately, since a lot of editors, at least in New York, are ideologues for their own political point and equal time for other opinions has long since fallen by the wayside.
2) Give the papers away for free – people will read a biased political opinion paper, even if it goes against their own beliefs, if it’s free. They probably won’t be swayed at all, but it’s something to read in the subway where my wifi doesnt work on my smartphone. Ads then pay for the paper instead.
3) Have ‘specialty’ papers, involving a specific niche of news types – again pretty rare for people to leave their politics out of it, but it’s easier if you have a newspaper that doesnt cover politics in the first place to leave political opinion out of it :)
And the papers that are in that third area are the ones most likely to have paparazzi, since a lot of those papers tend to focus on entertainment and pop culture stuff.
And please don’t let it get out that I’m an ethical lawyer. I have few enough clients on retainer as it is.
I can gather all the news I need on the weather report.
And… I’ve got nothing to do today except smile.
halo
the only hero which no one in her surroundings watch the news lol
Except the reporters that are clogging the store right now…
she should make an entrance fee for journalist too hehe
What makes you think even they watch the news?
That’s like Mcdonalds workers voluntairily eating Mcdonalds
That’s not a fair comparison…Reporters don’t get their bellies filled by watching their own news. At least McDonald’s workers have a better reason to eat than reporters have to watch news.
By now parts of last night’s brawl should be all over the place. Along with commentary, speculation and crude innuendo. Numbers of supers involved in the thousands and a blood-soaked body count in the hundreds. 50 new conspiracy theories have already bloomed and mutated beyond recognition. Just another day on the Internet.
Not to mention Reddit and 4chan, with additional pornographic photoshopping of fight scenes.
And a thousand post thread discussing Max’s boobs. No one should ever show Max (or Math, for that matter) Reddit.
Don’t forget the inevitable NSFW threads on 4chan about each and every one of the super heroes
True and eww! Max will blow a gasket if sees those.
True enough…Maxima herself doesn’t even like having boobs because they get in the way:
Panel 2 – https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/320
It’s not so much she hate the boobs themselves, she mainly hates that they get in the way and get her leered at. If it weren’t for things like that, I think she have a more positive opinion of them if she had any opinion about the at all.
I wouldn’t be so sure. If it weren’t that they are so very useful for proving that yes, I am female, even if I’m a geek, and useful for feeding children under 6 months of age, I would happily do without mine. Too bad we can’t be like other primates, and be completely flat most of the time, with our chests only inflating when we have newborn children…
I can hear men around the world crying at that thought! And I suspect a fair few, of all genders, would prefer less restriction on self-inflating breasts.
I end up getting most of my actual news from places like the BBC or Al Jazeera, since they not only have an easy to get to web site, they actually have … news. I got very tired of the current US news media, where there’s extensive coverage of a kitten trapped in a tree, or someone spending an hour telling me their opinion as if it’s “news.”
I must admit, from the little I have seen of it directly, Al Jazeera did seem to have balanced broadcasts. Obviously they featured the Islamic side of things heavily, but that is rather the point of the channel. So long as they do it in an unbiased manner, and also cover contrasting views, then I am cool with that.
Al Jazeera America’s been doing a pretty good job of it so far.
I’ll watch AJA sometimes for its differing point of view, niggling concerns about it flagging me in an NSA database aside.
Heh. By now they probably have a dog-eared folder on me.
*wiggles ears, artfully*
I’d say screw the NSA, but they seem to be more interested in being the screw-er than the screw-y
they’ve been screwy since forming
Seconded. Al Jazeera and the BBC are pretty much the only news worth watching aside from Fareed Zakaria on Sundays. And the Daily Show, obviously.
I have to admit the last panel really did make me laugh out loud. Truth in sadness.
yes, all this story lacks is a cute kitten playing banjo.
..this is a job for dabbler.
https://meowgifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/CatBanjoPlaying.gif
Here you go.
The 24-hour news channels are great! but only when actual NEWS is happening… three hours devoted to what the presidential dog’s new fur-styling might mean for US foreign policy? Not so much.
Re-read the archive once over the weekend. Flows well, but i still get that ‘termination shock’ feel getting to the current page. I think that’s a good sign.
Ugh, Hell no! 24 hour news is NEVER good! You know why? Because every real news story comes out like this.
“Breaking news, shots fired at local kitten and nun dealership. More as it develops”
“Shots fired at local kitten and nun dealership, at least 1 wounded. More as it develops.”
“Terror at nun dealership! Mysterious gunman not happy with color schemes opens fire! At least 12 dead, and 37 wounded. More as it develops.”
Add in a thousand other “stories” each one revealing a single new detail as someone twitters that was on the scene (hopefully) meanwhile all the earlier details are constantly changing because noone dares to take the time to actually CONFIRM anything, because in 24/7 news, breaking the story is all that counts. Even if your info is wrong its ok, just get A story out there now. You can edit it with updates when we find out what actually happened. Meanwhile the rest of the internet catches fire because your initial stories mention muslims, blacks, or crazy white people with guns and all sorts of rumors fly out of control. At least with the classic news at 11 type setups, they can usually take the time to confirm information before the broadcast, and have enough real details to make for an actual story instead of a single twitter entry’s worth of info.
Agreed. The birth of 24 hour news spelt the death of real news.
I always tell people that the news was better when they only had a hour at 6 O clock to tell you, and took the rest of the day beforehand off-air to figure out how they were going to do that.
And if something really important came up… “We interrupt this program with a special report.”
Right, and that program they interrupted was what made the network the money so you knew they wouldn’t do it unless it WAS important. Plus, the news folk knew what they were interrupting so they made every effort to be concise.
I’ve abandoned any news station who I find making the news instead of reporting it.
Bye bye, CNN. Selling out to the enemy in a war, bad move.
Bye bye, MSNBC, reporting false rumors that get people killed. Completely ignoring big stories affecting millions to report on a small fire that killed twenty odd people out in the middle of nowhere.
Others? Yes, those kittens are adorable but please give me more details about that .
Grr… Editor took out the list. Must use characters with care.
Please give me more info about that [pick one: plane crash, train wreck, supermarket shooting, bank bloodbath, hurricane, tornado, six feet of snow in _town_, doomsday weapon activation, alien invasion].
Avoid encasing text in angled brackets, < Like this > as that will normally make it vanish. The site tries to treat it as a tag command. Part of which is to hide the command from displaying.
As you correctly deduced using the square brackets gets around this problem, for the purposes you wanted. However should you really want to show an angled bracket, say to explain how to use a tag code, then you can force it to display as text.
The codes beginning with “&” are the ones you want to use. I.e. any under the heading “HTML number”.
So how long is the footage from the super fight going to be shown?
Mmm, pretty sure it will stop with the zombie apocalypse, or similar scenario. When has newsreel footage of WW1 or WW2 ever gone completely off our TVs?
It will also be required viewing in Super Battles 101.
As soon as they move on to discovering what will happen to the bad guys in the fight it will switch to brief clips of the battle to remind us who they were and why we should care, then drift towards court proceedings and such.
Well… since the battle lasted an entire year ….
(just kidding)
About the storage problem. Most of the women I know who don’t carry purses usually store their money and extra stuff in their bra’s.
It can be very suprising what some women store in their “Treasure Chest”
I’ll do that with my phone and cards, but I always feel awkward handing someone boobcash.
I can testify to this. It’s hilarious when she blushes digging her phone out because her boobs start meowing.
Talk about a woman getting “catty”…
:P
I’m pretty sure you and my sister text me intentionally so this’ll happen. Ass.
What you really have to be careful for though is encountering booby traps…
ala’ Jessica Rabbit
Sis sometimes won’t carry a purse. Whether or not she does she has a phone case which doubles as a wallet. When its just that and keys, she usually wears something with pockets and half the time the keys are in her hands or something.
I’ve never been able to store anything there. I’d be too mortified when I had to get it out.
Aww, that is so endearing. A Haloeque degree of cuteness! But, seriously, you should not let embarrasment rule your life. May I suggest you seek help?
….
Dancing and twirling and laughing in the rain, no embarrassment, check.
Answering a question wrong aloud in class, learning opportunity, no embarrassment, check.
Singing in front of people, embarrassing, but I don’t let it stop me from caroling, check.
The concept of using my bra for storage and getting help getting things out…
…
I’ll just go hide in a corner now. #@_@#()
Adorable.
That is going to be the best daily show episode ever.
Tweets faster than the shockwaves of an earthquake
A few people from the early comics showing up recently. Will Sydney’s “Boyfriend” turn up next? :P
Olivia is his sibling, and he is an existing customer. So it would be surprising if we did not see him, sooner or later.
How to put the media in their place 101.
She’d have to get a much bigger garbage can to do that. =OP
Awww. I wanted the “WHAT THE FUCK YOU ARE A SUPERHERO????????” thing so much, not with Joel then with someone else… I guess we still have potential for it with everybody who /did/ learn it from the news but has yet to discuss it with Sydney herself.
That is a kinda realistic reaction tho XD like… “I’m just going to ignore this impossible thing that can’t be happening because I’m probably just hallucinating or getting something wrong and go about my business as usual”
I think a part of it is that both Joel and Olivia seem to be folks who take their social cues from their company, and are good at stopping their emotions leaping out, in front of everyone. Sydney is being calm and everyday about it, so they are responding in kind.
What we see is the calm swan, floating in the pond.
Underneath her legs are churning away, and her thoughts are:
OMG OMG! I KNOW A REAL LIFE SUPER HERO! WOW! THEY ARE REAL… play it cool Olivia, play it cool. Don’t freak out with all those cameras on you… I think I just weed a little.
“…stopping their emotions leaping out, in front of everyone.”
Especially with so many of the media right there, recording everything…
O.o
Even though that “one eye wide open” symbol showing up in italics was a mistake just above, I think I’ll keep it in mind…It seems to indicate “extremely close scrutiny” & actually fits in context with the rest of my comment.
Ladies please take note. Should you, someday, be attending a comic convention, please do not take it the wrong way if Dave’s eyeline keeps dropping to your chest. You may have brought that on yourself!
*takes a sip of water, from a glass, and casually places it on the edge of the table*
*right on the edge, where it looks like it might teeter off, at any moment*
…
*it’s still there*
“Force push glass”
“Force catch glass”
*force pour glass on Dabbler* =P
Wet t-shirt, WOO-HOO!
You call that rag a t-shirt?
*Dabbler takes off wet tee, Max goes ballistic*
Dabs: Max, you don’t want me running around -wet-, do you?
I don’t think I would mind. :)
Running around wet, yes I’d mind…However, if she were to be straddling something wet, that’d be better.
Can’t have Dabbler running around all warm and moist.
I’ve got a place where She can sit down & relax…
*moves glass*
Ah, much better.
(Drinks glass of water) Thanks it’s kinda hot here.
checks battery on yorps holographic water glass projector
Oh, the batteries are fine, I just disconnected the pack from the projector.
He leaves it in an obvious place so that people will knock it over when waving through it, thinking it’s a hologram. All of the other ones make it that much more convincing.
I vote for mr comix to show up next, insisting that Sydney use her superhero connections to get him that comic.
… and demanding a free autographed picture with him since he’s such a “good” customer.
Wow
That guy looks so sad.
Yeah… In addition, last page I thought he did that with his moustache on purpose. But now, seeing the last two panels, I’m not so sure anymore…
I would have probably thought of the super battle as a hoax first, like that alien invasion or the Flemish secession. ,,Whoa, that stuff was real?” could be a realistic reaction.
Also Olivia’s proportions changed. I guess that means she doesn’t have any secret super powers.
Yea, DaveB mentioned that he struggled, in his earlier art, to handle more typical body types. It is nice to see that he has gotten the hang of it. And it does reduce the risk of folks speculating that she is a super hero.
Mind you it does somewhat diminish the memory of one panel. Sydney’s close encounter of the pillow kind.*
* Euphemism folks. Not actual pillows!
But I bet they are soft and comfy.
Pff, as if that would stop it. I’m calling Vehemence magic energy. She can grow when certain stuff happens.
“more typical body types”
I understand the point about supers in this world having over-the-top physiques in several ways, but if Olivia is a typical body type I am hanging out in the wrong locations. And that outfit is killer.
I guess she probably only seems more average to me, because I dated a couple of girls with her kind of build. So your point is well made. But all the natural born supers definitely match a particular niche, which she is outside of. Making her part of the “rest of the world’s builds”.
“Typical” just seemed like less of a mouthful. Which seemed to suit her.
Yorp’s owner in the marketing strip looks definitly more atypical.
That reminds me that I thought it was a hoax when I learned about that tsunami in the indian ocean 2004. :(
Yea, I thought the same about the documentary footage of that CERN incident.
Old fogies and their traditional news channels…
Why, when I was a young’un we had three whole channels to pick from to get news, and we had to get up and walk across the room if we wanted to change the channel! And none of this new-fangled recording of things to watch later. And one more thing ya whippersnapper, get off my lawn!
Last nights brawl HAS to be all over redchanit…
Is it just me or does the male News reporter with a mustache kind a look like Ron Burgundy but in a blue jacket?
You can find images of him in a blue suit, if that helps?
“stay classy [undisclosed city]”
So we’re still in the comics shop? I was hoping that since Sydney said she was leaving the comics shop last page that she would be back to Archon this page. Oh well.
Anyway, since you said this was “reintroducing” Olivia, I checked back with the beginning of the comic. I hadn’t remembered that she and Sydney met for the first time yesterday, though that explains why Sydney had trouble remembering her name today. Though apparently from the flash-forward at the very beginning, they’re destined to become friends who are on a hugging basis? I guess Olivia’s level of importance to the story is yet to be shown.
Joel went for lunch first since Syd’s gonna be “out” the rest of the day.
The comic she bought was The Walking Dead for anyone who doesn’t want to go back and check.
We are 600 votes from 2nd.
And 800 from 3rd.
https://www.goodnewsnetwork.org/
I just drop it here.
I hope that, or something like it, gets the formula right and becomes popular enough to encourage mainstream networks to even the balance too. Bad news might sell, but finding a way to give us rounded coverage, without driving up depression, and suicide rates, would be kinda nice.
Thanks for bringing it to our attention.
For Madison Ave. & Hollywood, “sex sells.”
For TV News & Hollywood, “blood sells.
The formulas for everything are changing with the internet…Which is why we really DON’T need government regulation as if it were a “utility” service.
:(
Yup! Because we can totally trust ISPs not to slow down content from their competitors.
Mostly because any formula that the government comes up with is going to be either explosive or acidic.
You forgot toxic and virulent flavours.
Thanks for that link.
It’s called a “cold-shoulder top”. And don’t worry, most girls are well-practised at using their cleavage for bonus storage space.
Women & the stuff they feel like they just have to carry…
I mean, really, most men can get by just fine with just a few pockets & a wallet.
…Except students…Stacks of books are hard to fit into your pants (waiting for snarky comments on this statement).
There’s also supposedly a few outfits out there that like men’s swim trunks have hidden pockets
I once weighed my wife’s purse on one of those produce scales at the grocery store. It came in at 16 pounds, which I had to tell her was the same as a professional bowling ball. And she hates bowling!
I was a lot less sympathetic about sore shoulders for a while after that, since I had such good ammunition about the probable cause.
Heh, should see how much it weighs empty :) I have weighed a couple of my sister’s purses and one of them came as 9lb empty… It was the student backpack replacement style though, so it could handle containing smaller textbooks and notebooks.
16 pounds is nothing if you have the right style of strap with padding though.
We did call it “the cow”, on the premise that it took an entire cow hide to make it. But it didn’t have much other than size going for it so I’ll guess 3-4 lbs, tops.
“Hey Syd! I wanted to see if you got in the new…what’s with all the news crews?”
“Really? Did you not see anything last night either?”
“Nah…I spend all last night on WoW, disconnected from all the public chats. Though it was weird none of the guildies were on. What happened?”
*Sydney points to orbs*
“I don’t get it.”
“I’m a superhero.”
“…I think you’ve been spending too much time working here in the comic shop. It’s starting to mess with your brain. Now, about that new Starfire Moe Collection figure….”
That would be how my discussion with Sydney would go. Complete disbelief, shrug off, go back to business.
You are back! I looked for you, over the weekend, but could not find you. *
Nice realistic dialogue there. Would you not be curious about the seven UFO’s bobbling around, right in front of your eyes though?
* Mind you the fact that my brain has ‘name recall issues’ does not help.
Nah…I’d just think it was some new techie designer jewelry. Plus, it’s very rare that I’m impressed with anything…I’ve been around the internet too many times.
on the subject of news…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UjpmT5noto
Yup. Injustice being laid clear. And in an amusing way, with clever presentation. Albeit rather over the top at times, but heck, it is an American program.
That’s the sort of depressing stuff I don’t like watching. It’s tacit confirmation that the law does not apply equally and that wealth is all that matters when it comes to applying justice. I’ve thought for a long time that fines like speeding tickets should be based on a percentage of your income, otherwise the system is inherently disproportionate. Themis’s scales are supposed to measure evidence, not wealth.
The sad truth of the matter is that even trying to apply a income based system of penalties would cost municipalities a lot of money. They would have to hire people, access records, adjudicate those records to determine what the fine should be, respond to challenges against that system, etc.
What really needs to happen is to make illegal the system of applying 10 different additional surcharges on a minor ticket for speeding or stealing a $2 can of beer. That’s where the real injustice begins. No other part of government that I’m aware of does this. Imagine the protests if the DMV set a $35 fee for issuing you a drivers license and then added $150 dollars in surcharges. Want a marriage license? That’ll be $50, plus $680 dollars in additional fees. There would be riots in the street! But no one has any sympathy for someone who is issued a ticket for public urination or speeding, so those areas are ripe for these kinds of abuse to creep in.
And then some form of barter, as Oliver suggested. If a person claims that they can’t afford a fine, allow them to work it off in community service. There is always work that needs to be done.
Are you really talking about the United States with their allknowing intelligence that cannot estimate their citizens’ incomes? Is that really more expensive than applying all these fees?
What’s with bigger crimes than speeding? I thought it’s normal to correspond penalties with income. Some months ago we had a soccer player pay 540000€ for driving without license (repeatedly).
Is this because your police is organized on county level and your counties compete against each other with taxes and stuff?
Yes, I am, and yes, it is. Even the IRS has rules in place about how it shares people’s records, even with other government agencies*. The same applies, on a case-by-case basis to State governments, since all the states get to make their own rules as long as they don’t violate Federal laws.
Some small township looking to collect on a speeding ticket doesn’t have much chance of getting access to those records, and the bureaucracy involved in even making the request to those with the needed records will be very costly indeed. Even getting the address for people who got a parking ticket while their car was unattended, so there was no opportunity for the officer to ask for ID, so you can mail them a reminder/late fee if it isn’t paid on time is a bureaucratic chore.
It’s like this: To get the address you need to track the license plate. To do that you need to make a request to an organization such as the state DMV for the information. That requires time out of someone’s day, and enough of that and you need a new full time person. On the DMV side they have to receive, process, and respond to this request. That requires time out of someone’s day, and enough of that and you need a new full time person. If there is any third party involved who must approve or monitor or track or document such transactions, they need to have an employee spend time as well, and enough of that and you need a new full time person. Now you’re paying out three new salaries just to try to collect on overdue tickets. Enough of that and it’s like the man who was jailed at a cost of $3,500 because he couldn’t pay a fine of $250, it just doesn’t make sense, from a cost/benefit perspective.
Things quickly snowball, which is why I’m fairly sympathetic to the reasons why we have a large government. That’s not to say that there isn’t huge amounts of waste, fraud, and abuse. I’ve been there, I’ve seen it happen**. It’s just hidden behind the actual effort required to process things as simple as a speeding or parking ticket.
* You can argue about how well those rules are enforced, but that’s a completely different subject.
** Like the IRS employee I needed to interview for some process information in order to set up a much needed change review board. After days of going by his desk and finding it empty, leaving him voice and email messages without any response, I finally found him at his desk. I introduced myself, told him that his colleagues had identified him as a key person who had information I needed to move the process, which had full management support, forward, and asked for 30 minutes of his time to discuss the subject with him. He looked at me for a minute and then said: “Why are you at my desk? I’m retiring in 5 years.”
His tone communicated that he fully intended to do absolutely nothing for the remainder of his 5 year tenure until he retired, which is no doubt why he was almost never at his desk and didn’t respond to voice or email messages. And he was untouchable, the union would have thrown a fit if a person at 5 years to retirement was censured or terminated.
It’s funny you say that Dave. I was reading an article the other day about a country (I think Finland) that does that. It was about a guy who got a speeding ticket for going 10 miles of the speed limit and got a 65 thousand dollar ticket. (Those numbers converted to Us numbers.) I had never considered that concept, but it makes sense to me.
To be fair, I have to wonder how many of those fines could have been prepared and paid for if those ‘paycheck to paycheck’ people, I don’t know, did without for a while. Stop buying booze for a few months, or go without cable television. Only use vehicles for work or emergency related travel and walk or bike everywhere else…
I’m a college student, and in this day and age that’s basically the same as saying “In Debt until you’re 50”, but I’m actually thousands in the black, paying of my school as I go, having already paid off over $50,000 worth of loans and interest, in a couple years, because I don’t spend on anything that isn’t necessary for basic survival (and internet, but that’s almost basic survival at this point due to things like communications and access to tax returns or job applications). Money can accumulate when you give it a chance to, and even a couple dollars a day or week will add up. I mean, yeah, these people are in dire straights, and the companies and govmnts that put them there are horrible for letting things get like that, but the people themselves should probably have, you know, figured out a way to save up an emergency fund long before that. Or been careful not to do things that would go and get them fined.
I do the same sort of things. But I realise I am lucky. I have not had any serious illnesses. Despite not being able to afford insurance, no disaster has struck my house.* I do not have kids to look after. You know, all the stuff that people do get hit with in life.
Just because we have lucked out, does not mean that everybody can do the same, even if they do have as austere and frugal lives as we lead.
* Well, my garden wall and gate did start to collapse, which wiped out my savings. But the point was that I had the fortune to accumulate some in the first place. Others may never get that chance. Especially if they have a disadvantaged start. Throw a poor education in the mix, for instance, and everything goes down the drain.
No one hip watches “news” anymore old man. We’re all in to freeform form media. I’m gonna go tweet on my Ipod 17 while facebooking this instagram! #LAMEMOUSTACHE
I try watching the news…I really do….then someone says they “researched” some scientific theory or something scientific that they got wrong on live tv…or that they “studied” a religion and then turned around and called it evil and murderous when its quite the opposite…I then proceed to not watch the news…and if its not science or religion they screw up, its the law they don’t know…(though I don’t give them such a hard time for that, before my injury I was studying law enforcement, and learned a lot I didn’t know) or some other poorly researched mistake…while claiming to have done the research…Its one thing to say something and call it your opinion, its another to claim to have studied something you clearly have not studied. It would be like me saying I am a mechanic, knowing how little I know about vehicles (Hey I can change the oil!).
Personally I think news outlets,* aught to face fines if they wilfully misreport or under-research news. And should loose their licence if they do it too often. Plus they should work harder to emphasise that something is ‘early research’ or ‘not applicable for humans’.
Leading with a story of ‘ICE CREAM DANGEROUS’, should result in a fine, even if it goes on to explain that is is ‘just for mice’. They have purposely mislead folks. And, as a result, anyone who does not go further than the headline, or turns to another channel, will be misinformed.
* Of any sort that purvey news, not just the ones with an anchor man behind a desk.
there is a lot tighter regs in some country’s. a famous k9 named news channel is even band in at least one country
While I admit I don’t think it’s always willingly (likely bad sources, or research in all the wrong places…well I guess that’s basically the same thing…) I do think it should be illegal to misreport, since the idea of the news is to inform people. I totally agree that leading a story like that, even if they explain it later shouldn’t be allowed, because not everyone has the chance to wait till they finally wrap back around to it.
When I was a child I enjoyed sitting with my father and watching the news, (or stealing the funnies when I got the chance) now I try and avoid it unless I have the time to research multiple other sources…
I believe my favorite part of this page is that Sydney doesn’t magically automatically know Olivia’s name after they met once.
+1
I empathise with her more than ever.
I can dig it. I’m terrible with names – have a full-time job just remembering my own.
Same here.
It’s probably the numbers. Remember you are a name, not a number!
Hear hear! I keep wanting to refer to myself as Kalietha irl. Which is not my irl name. And I managed to graduate HS without knowing the names of half the classmates I’d been taking classes with since kindergarten…
In Sydney’s defense at the time, her focus of attention was on…something else…when Oliva first introduced herself.
;)
The more important fact is that knowing someones name perfectly the first time is not very common especially when you have ADD.
Who are you people, and why should I care?
Some cars don’t need keys. And if you are heading to the gym I’m guessing less is more when deciding what pocket junk to carry. Her phone might be in her car as she was just going to pop min for a few seconds.
Maggie
Maggie
March 23, 2015 at 6:15 am | Reply
I’ll do that with my phone and cards, but I always feel awkward handing someone boobcash.
catchTwentythree
catchTwentythree
March 23, 2015 at 6:33 am | Reply
I can testify to this. It’s hilarious when she blushes digging her phone out because her boobs start meowing.
THIS MUST HAPPEN RANDOMLY IN-COMIC!!
Oh god… To explain the meowing: my text ringtone is the intro to “Walls Covered In Blood” from a webcomic called Homestuck. Which…is meowing. Specifically, the cat from Mario Paint composer.
I find the problem with tv news today is they don’t really broadcast the news. 10 minutes of some poor schmuck out in whatever horrible weather they can find. 10 minutes of the latest outrage (to them) and a 60 second video endlessly repeating all broken up by 10 minutes of corporate sell out (I mean commercials).
Sounds like you should try living in the UK for a bit. Life without adverts – bliss.
I get that here too. But that is life without TV. Mind you that is bliss too.
Try chucking your TV out the window!
I can’t recall the last time I used my TV as a TV. It is, however, handy for watching blu rays and playing video games.
my tv is just anther computer monitor. i gave up paying for tv anything worth watching is available cheaper or free online. just lucky my pc has a few hdmi ports
Really all a TV is is a monitor with a few additional features. Notably a tuner and speakers.
As a kid for a while we actually just had our computer monitor hooked up to a vcr with a tuner and used that for TV instead of an actual television.
“Yeah…we know”
Just…the defeat in that guy…
I’m female and I don’t carry a purse the vast majority of the time. I have a men’s wallet that I keep in my back pocket, phone goes in the front pocket and I keep my keys on a clip on my belt loop. On the occasion that I wear exercise pants I have been known to clip my keys to the strings in front.
Maybe she has one of those purse/belt/wallet thingies that joggers use?
A fanny pack? Do they still make those??? I thought they died with the 80’s! (No, wait. My dad still uses one for all his junk. I guess they didn’t. Then again, he still has ugly dress shirts he was wearing back in the 70’s. That is really sad for a 67 year old man… *sigh*)
Does he get arrested much? Or does it conceal his junk adequately?
Sorry, sorry. I could not resist.
Welcome back, Olivia.
Seconded.
Thirded.
And I must add that the fourth is strong with her.
Next, you’ll be taking the fifth…
She is making my sixth sense tingle!
Seeing her again is enough to put me in Seventh Heaven.
Okay, at what point will the nesting function stop working here?…
;)
Ok. Okay. STOP.
Eight is enough!
NEIN! Ve shall never stop!
I must tentatively assume you are a ninja.
Apparently, the nesting function stops at nine…
Please see below.
Nein!
I shall stand at atTENtion for that.
Too bad the nesting function doesn’t go up to eleven…
Yea, I had been looking forward to my elevenses. :-(
I think Olivia looked awesome in that middle panel, not so awesome in the next one. Its the mouth I think, maybe the perspective, like being that close shows too many details that give a more uncanny valley feel or something? I dunno, im not an artist. Still, it is neat seeing your artwork evolve and improve.
It may just be that her mouth shows up being wider there. I found Sandra Bullock to be a bit unsettling, when I first saw her. The combination of her wider than average mouth, with the thicker lips, probably accounting for that.
But that first impression fell away as I got to see more of her. And she very much grew on me.
I too find Olivia’s look slightly out there. But think that it is more down to the fact that we do not see that many faces which fall out of the ‘ideal range’, in entertainment. So I think it is just a matter that we will get used to her look, rather than there being an art issue.
As for the middle panel, I agree with the ‘awesome’. Panel 3 she looks funny (in the amusing sense), going a bit cross-eyed as she does. But totally down to staring at the orb. So I like that.
Yeah the teeth thing threw me a bit. I actually tried smiling to see just how many teeth I expose and dang, I had to pull the corner of my mouth back to show that many! But like you said, some people do have that big mouth smile going for them. Honestly, as far as art goes, I would be nearly willing to accept Order of the Stick level artwork if it let me see more frequent updates! The story is really what drags me in here. The art is awesome, and as I said, its neat seeing how good dave has gotten over the years, but dag nabbit, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENS NEXT AND NEXT AND THEN AFTER THAT!!!!
Superbitch!
Holy carp, I think your right!
Dave B. mentioned it in a past comment. https://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61CElI%2BDRrL.jpg
“…greasy, sweaty phone screens and want to attack her with Windex.”
The problem with guys is that, once such an urge invades our minds, we realize that someone should invent a way for us to carry a decent supply of glass cleaner that fits in our wallets.
“…in front of a gaggle (herd? school? murder?) of “real” reporters…”
I vote that we go with a “murder” of reporters. The best thing they do is character assassination anyway.
“So instead I ended the page on a ratings gag!”
Television ratings have been taking a significant drop in viewers over the past few years & that’s probably one of the reasons why TV tries to go so “sensationalist” over everything…
That being said, other venues like the internet & talk radio have been gaining where TV has been losing. A good source of the statistical info is the Media Reasearch Center, that is (mostly) non-political (except when it’s pointing out how politically biased the media gets) & concentrates mostly on the “number-crunching” of all sorts of media outlets in comparison to each other & how the public views them.
“…I may have to plane the bottom of my doors so they fit.”
I suppose that could be fit in with the meme of “First World Problems.”
;)
Collective noun for reporters?
An error of reporters? A brain cell? Oooh, how about “A cacophony of reporters?”
There should be a seperate one for papparazi though. Murder, chase, leech and ghoul spring to mind.
A wall of paparazzi.
*Checks feed, and makes sure there will be no jamming. Looks around to ensure no innocent bystanders are in the line of fire. Flips safety off…*
*spaghetti and meatball launcher opens fire and sends reporters rolling out the door*
Fire!
Take no prisoners!
I preterm the 1,000,000,000 candle power flash to shoot them with.
The Evil Squirrel Overlord declares war! Shoot to kill!
https://acidsquirrel.com/post/71346
There are some funny ones in there, but I managed to detect that the caption writer is a city slicker. Who might be in for a surprise if deciding to give the cow a tummy rub.
Probably not the correct term, but for this many: a ravening of reporters.
i always thought the collective noun was a fraud of reporters.
+1
A fraud of investment councilors. A lie of reporters. A sneak of paparazzi.
A pervert of paparazzi.
I’m no fan of Brittany Spears (or plenty of other celebs who have been “caught” without their underwear on), but when they publish pictures shot up her skirt while they must have been lying on the ground to get the angle I sympathize with the celebrity/public life. There’s no shame in not wearing panties. They just don’t work with some clothing. The shame is in taking and then publishing the pictures where for maybe a whole second her crotch was in view. Anyone there might not have seen anything at all due to angle or lighting, or might have at best gotten a brief thrill. But those creepers make it visible with their camera flash and angles, and permanent because of the Internet, and actually get paid to follow people around looking for those kinds of shots.
+1
They should face prosecution, the same as any other peeping tom. And the editors and publishers, for complicity, after the fact.
Agreed.