Grrl Power #265 – In summation…
One of the (few) drawbacks to having an especially active community here in the comments is that a page or two following a big reveal will generally be retread or just confirmation of what’s been discussed by you guys. It’s stuff that needs to be said in the comic anyway since not everyone reads the comments and also there’s the book version to think about. I’ll reiterate one thing I said in the comments for the previous page since it’s easy to miss, is that while Vehemence can draw power from any sort of violence, from a mugging to an earthquake, violence with intent is higher quality and better ‘tasting’. Presumably it comes with lots of Vitamin V. Also there’s a finite amount he’d be able to absorb from something as violent as an earthquake since the range at which he can absorb the energy from is limited. A 2000 mile long fault line’s no good to him if he can only absorb stuff from… well, I haven’t decided his range, but it’s well under a mile. Localized violence is better.
I really wanted this page to be a double page, as Vehemence’s speech took rather a lot of room, but I think I’ve kind of gotten into the habit of trying to make every page I can a double. I’ve done 7 of them in the last 10 pages, and it’s been a little stressful. Burnout is far too dramatic a word, but making this page and the next singles was almost like a vacation for me. By vacation, I mean I didn’t have to draw all day Sunday as well as the other 6 days and it was nice. I did some chores, went to the gym… then spent the rest of the day coloring the vote incentive anyway, but the point is that I wasn’t under the gun trying to get a page finished so I wouldn’t be behind on Monday which is when I write and start penciling new pages.
There were several suggestions in the comments that the team take a break and power up Dabbler to match V’s level, and Dabbler alludes to it here. It would be an epic bait and switch if I just suddenly changed the comic into a 20 page lesbian orgy right now, but… nah. :)
The question is, if Vehemence is so powerful, or at least so potentially powerful, how did Arc-LIGHT not know about him? Granted they haven’t done a great job tonight anyway, but in Vehemence’s case, he’s mostly just hung around in the background gathering power and never really needed to join in. What’s he going to do, get powered up during a race riot, then leap out and start attacking looters? He’d pulp anyone he hit, and while killing someone is usually a pretty violent thing, a dead rioter can’t continue rioting.
Even when he hung around underground super fight clubs, which given the low incidence of super powers are rare, but they still happened, he’s got nothing to prove. He’s just there for the meal. He’s revealing himself now mostly because as debuts go, this is a pretty good one, and also right now he’s so amped it’s like he’s been snorting Excedrin.
Here are some fun links for you. This one makes envious of the gals, cause whereas girls can wear basically anything without anyone batting an eye, guys are generally limited to 2-3 kinds of shirts and either pants or shorts, meaning there’s a whole range of geek wear I’m shut out of, like this Baroness tank dress. Though even if I was a girl, I’m not sure I would traipse around in something quite that sheer, though maybe it’s only partially see-through under studio lights. And probably direct sunlight, but then how often do proper geeks get exposed to that? Anyway if you’re within a decade of my age that site may have a few gems for you.
Here’s a quite funny webcomic I found, Deathbulge. As with a lot of webcomics, it takes a few strips to find it’s footing but is solid once it hits its stride. The RSS seems to be broken unfortunately, but it’s worth going through the archives IMO.
Here’s the link to the new comments highlighter for chrome which I can’t live without anymore, and the GitHub link which you can use to install on FireFox via Greasemonkey.
Things that could help them now: a drain spell, a cutter beam, a certain invincible occupier of bricks and anything that can mess with internals/ the senses. Nice walking personification of the Inverse Law by the way.
You know, they have magic. Now i don’t know how proficient dabbler is in all magic, but taking a page from D&D and two spells come up. Baleful polymorph, which i’m sure that Vehemence could pass his fort check, and baleful teleport. The baleful teleport is ideal because nobody has to lay hands on Vehemence to move him. Although vehemence has demonstrated a level of spell resistance that is quite impressive.
The problem with Dabbler is the whole jack of all trades master of none type thing. Her spells need more chutzpah to do anything. To put it in DnD terms “The saves on her spells aren’t all that high and she only has partial spell progression. Being a boss monster who’s already buffed she’s not likely to bypass his SR and he’s not likely to fail his save.”
still betting on Sidney putting her shield around him to trap him without oxygen
You must be in a trophy giving mood, aren’t you?
Nah just a repettetive mood. He must have missed the 100’s of comments suggesting this idea and the 100’s of people pointing out that Sydney still has to be inside the shield for it to work.
Or he didn’t miss them and STILL insists on the field suffocation plan either because he’s stubborn about it or feels like adding to Captain’s trophy continent.
I’m pretty sure a few of them are doing it on purpose just because it guarantees some visible reply love from us. :D
Some of them are starting to sound alike…
Precisely my thought. Thus why some are here just to donate more trophies. :p
I’d imagine that shoving the psuedopod down his throat would be a rather effective form of suffocation.
But bodily harm is still possible. I’d imagine the Dabbler’s rail gun would still prove lethal to V, particularly at this close range. The PPO has a good shot of being similarly effective.
How confident are you of this? 50%? 80%?
I put 100 quatloos, against this being even attempted. Do you accept the bet?
If you think the probability is less than 50% but still elevated, then how about a smaller bet skewed in your favor? My 50 to your 20. Or my 8 to your 1.
You bet? How much?
I offer a 100 quatloo bet, even, against this happening.
Or, my 50 to your 20.
Or, my 8 to your 1.
If you’re not confident of it above the 1 in 9 level (which would make an 8:1 payout a good deal), stop even talking about it.
I remember Sidney recently got a power up on her balls. I do not remember them telling what it was except to give a really elaborate wheel type design. I am suspecting Sidney will somehow deal with him using whatever the power up was. It did come right after the explosion in the desert I think and that was a lot of force, maybe on Vehemence’s level.
It was a skill point given to the comm/truesight orb. I fail to see how that would be helpful here, unless it allows Sidney to start projecting things into his brain.
It might come in handy though. Maybe it could reveal a weakness, or at least distract him so that something else can be done by the rest of the team.
Wait, do energy users LOsE energy if the complete opposite emotion/act that they draw power from is present? Like dabbler going to a national nun(ja) meeting or vehemence going to a all hippy parade?
The internet has taught me that Nuns would only empower Dabbler…
What the hell kinda stuff have you been watching?
I’m staying out of this one because it’s “nun” of my business. I don’t want to pick up any more bad “habits,” because I have enough of them already…
Rule 34
Funny thing. It’s not really obscure enough to require calling on rule 34. Apparently a pretty big fetish in Italy and Spain.
Don’t ask me how I know that…
Rule 34, indeed.
I was referring to not wanting any more “bad habits”…I’ve already gotten enough of those from the Bloomin’ Fairies webcomic…Hint: Definitely NSFW.
Maxima throws him into space. Problem solved.
Max’s throwing arm does not appear to be strong enough to reach escape velocity or she’d have sent him a little further than a couple of city blocks with a punch.
Time to start loving on him. Love is opposite of violence, right?
Things like Peace or surrender are probably closer to an opposite then Love. Love would be the wind that fans the flames of Violence.
Problem is, he could counter that just by punching them. And how well would that work? They’re all lovey dovey while he’s collapsing their skulls.
Except Halo. He’s been treating her with kids gloves, except for the initial “you tripped me, PUNCH to the powerful shield”. He’d probably pat her gently then carry her through all the attacks and set her down somewhere soft.
The problem I have with power-absorbing villains like this is how they never seem to have any sort of upper limit for how much they can absorb at one time. Makes sense if it’s like a god of evil or something but when it’s “just” a supervillain it’s always seemed silly: sure he “eats” violence or whatever but come on, a human can’t just go to a Los Vegas buffet and start chowing down forever to get stronger, sooner or later he’s going to have to stop. Similarly, I’ve always felt that absorption based superhumans like this guy or Sebastian Shaw should have some sort of threshold, either for individual attack force or for the total power gain at one time, and above that they should start getting hurt.
Maybe mutants like these ARE how some lesser kinds of gods are formed? They just keep eating till they transcend to become a God of the archetype related to what they ate? (hewwow V you cwuuuute widdle muscle babie god you! :) )
Did you see X-Men: Days of Future Past? They had an energy absorber with an upper limit.
Correct me if wrong, but it has not been said that Vehemence doesn’t have an upper limit of sorts, or if he reached it already.
If it is a passive absorption it might be that at reaching his max he will just stop absorbing and stay at max limit till such a time he is no longer surrounded by violence. A sponge doesn’t keep absorbing water till it bursts either after all.
That’s the first thought that came to mind. It’s kind of an old trope, but keep feeding him violence until he explodes, basically. Too easy of an out though, I suspect the author has something else in mind.
Do you think you could post that trope? I thought it was a decent idea I had lol
Here you go.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PhlebotinumOverload
I am pretty sure he HAVE that threshold. He is kind of beatup… you know missing sight from one eye and all, and absorbing the violence doesn’t seems to give him regenerating power, so IF engought people with enought strenght beat him up a lot, he can still be incapacicated and with broken arm and legs, he can be as strong as hewants, if he can’t moove, he can,t move, after that it is possible that the absorbed energy will leak out, he will become week again and can be put on permanent restraint and sedative.
Does there need to be a distinct range? It could just be that violence energy or his gathering capability attenuates as it goes farther, so that he only gets 99.9% when someone’s actually punching him in the face and only practically nothing from violence orbiting above China.
Mini comic Dabs has her battle damage but Sydney doesn’t. Probably too late for DaveB to see this but I’m just putting it out there in case. (I bet Dave can’t wait till that damage gets healed! XD )
IIRC, mini-comics aren’t canon, which may be why DaveB didn’t feel like being consistent.
Being a chibi comic I probably wouldn’t have thought to say anything if Dabbs didn’t have her damage in it.
I did admit it was inconsistent, just giving a wild guess as to why.
The why is easy. DaveB has a blind spot for that bit of battle damage and always has. Its some odd mental quirk. The fact it is in a chibi-comic just makes it “OK”. (and it is OK. Just thought I would mention it cause I thought DaveB might want to know he did it that way)
He actually explained it in a comment. From what I remember he starts by doing pencil work with reference pictures in a window to the side, but coloring is done without the reference images available. I do not know the reasons why though.
Damage such as cuts he pencils in but the damage Sydney has isn’t included in the pencil work and only added during coloring and that’s why he sometimes miss those details.
So what I am curious about is “What does he intend to do with this power?” Assumably his power is something that won’t last, the charge granted from all this violence something that is spent. Why does he want or need this power right now?
For the lolz. Doesn’t give a crap so long as he got his fun. Or it’s a lifestyle. Being pro-violence is not just a religion.
I think this is close to the mark. He’s simply doing it because he enjoys it. Since this fight has probably powered him up beyond anything he’s ever tried before, he’s having the time of his life.
I am curious myself.
While he is going a little wild now he did seem pretty level headed, deliberate, and intelligent before. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a blood knight, just that he isn’t a dumb one.
If you knew a set of not easy to set up circumstances that would allow you to operate at near god-like power levels (little g like Thor not big G like I sneezed and there is a universe now… ) and turned on the TV to see a clear path to creating those circumstances. Would you go for it? Maybe not. But some would and would hardly have to think about it. The kind of guys who would climb mount Everest just cause or find an overhanging cliff on top of said mountain just so they could practice hanging from a knuckle jammed sideways in a small crack in the rock. Many of the Olympians come under this (unless they are in it entirely for the money).
Now that’s just one possibility though. And even if it is true doesn’t mean he didn’t think of a way to get something else out of this effort “as long as he was doing it anyway”. He seems to like rubbing his cleverness in peoples faces so he may have come up with a master plan to use this power just to show off.
People like you are always asking “What will we do with this power?”
Power isn’t always a means to an end. Sometimes, it is the end. Of everyone that gets in your way.
Given the off handed comments Vehemence has thrown at Dabbler, he knows more than a little bit about magic. I also have to wonder what other powers or abilities he has yet to demonstrate. He’s shown raw power, which is also useful for the situation he has put himself in, but what if he is thrown into space, who’s to say that he couldn’t get himself back down using abilities yet unseen.
Doesn’t matter how strong he is if you take away his leverage. Can he fly? If not some sort of tractor beam putting him in the air and just hold him there till he chills out. Alternatively can Maxima hoik him into orbit?
“Hoik”? sounds like a porno’s sound effect
That being the case, Maxima wouldn’t be willing nearly as much as Dabbler might be to “hoik” him into *something* or other…
Watch, he’s gonna be the team’s new trainer, hired by the general and everything
OR
Sydney’s gonna use the lighthook to rip out his remaining eye
OR
He’s gonna turn out to be an old friend from Dabbler’s past, but she didn’t recognize him at first
Friends with benefits… OMG Vehemence+Dabbler+ violent love making= strongest supers duo EVER
… trick here? find a way to mitigate his present power. A zero friction material comes to mind (nothing like just being on your backside and just never being able to get off it regardless of your agility/strength, etc due to the inability to effect the material you’re on.)
Solution? Halo bubbles him, then everybody goes for donuts and coffee.
Her shield can take an explosion of at least 10kt from within the blast zone. It’s very unlikely he’ll be able to break her shield, and containing him is not violent. At that point all they need to do is wait his power out.
yeah, but she needs to be inside it. Would you want to be in a bubble with that guy? I know i wouldn’t.
but maybe sydney levels up, puts a skillpoint in shield and gets a skill where she can make it from a distance
This makes what, the 50th time someone has said the same thing, and had it pointed out that she has to be inside the shield? It only forms around her
Yup, another trophy for Capt. Obvious…
This is why I still consider apathy to be the best weapon against Vehemence. Note how many commenters are too apathetic to read the comments before repeating them so much, then consider how V can be defused if he just doesn’t give a flying f*ck anymore & just stops *doing* anything.
I really should pass out signs to those that make that suggestion.
I hope you’re a multi-millionaire, because it’ll take most of it to manufacture that many signs…Or maybe you could ask bill Engvall to donate some of his earnings from his stage comedy routines for such a worthy project.
…Or maybe?
You wouldn’t actually happen to BE Bill Engval behind that mask, would you?…
You will never know
OK! OK! Enough with these trophies. I’m starting to fear for the stability of this tectonic plate. Having it tilt could end up being a bit messy…
Can Halo project the shield to be around someone other than herself? And if so, does it go air tight if she wants it to?
She can make the bubble around others, as she did to protect the media when Max was showing off, but word of god is that she has to be inside the bubble as well. Also the bubble is air tight automatically, thus her breathing problems earlier.
The funny thing is, despite everyone saying she can’t do it over and over RIGHT NOW, just watch. Dave will probably give Halo a level up in shield that lets her put a mini-shield inside of her shield to protect herself. Then God help us all for these people crawling out of the woodwork again, going “See? See!?!” They’d still be wrong, since she cannot do it now, but it won’t stop the lulz :P
Combine it with the light whip, and she’ll play ping pong using whoever is in the shield with her
ok I get your mr you hit me I become a god so heloo girls kiss him succubus kiss the jerk its love and if am right that his kryptonite love is the upset of violence all ways has all ways will and if any one says differ you really don’t know the world at all
No, a succubus like Dabbler doesn’t use love…They use sex & lust. Love might defuse violence, but lust & sex can be mixed with violence all too well.
at this point, with how much vehemence is growing i’d have deliver a monty python quote here “Bring me my bucket…”
“Bring me my brown pants!”
If I was facing Vehemence at this point, my pants would be brown…Even if they weren’t before he showed up.
That’s how they defeat him! They all start humming the Monty Python theme and when they get to the end a giant foot descends from the sky and squishes Vehemence.
WOG has it that he is not actually growing:
And I forgot the link…
DaveB – November 10, 2014 at 10:58 am
It seems they will have to battle him, without using violence, which makes most of the suggested ideas non-starters, directly or indirectly. Better look more at ideas of calming or soothing him.
Now for the longer term, we can note that V says he recruited all the other supers without taking much effort, and we have no evidence of his having special talents at recruitment. So the number of supers would seem to be much higher than the official estimate, which is good for the story as otherwise we would likely run low on opponents.
Funny thing is it looks like violence works against him just fine. He’s getting hurt while powering up. His arm is cut up, he’s missing teeth, his eye is shut, he’s covered in scratches. The trick is they haven’t used powerful enough violence to put him down or give him a debilitating injury.
I like the character, but it might be time for “Non lethal” to go out the window, which I suppose already happened when someone shot him in the eye with a 50cal.
I think that is why he announced his power. to shake them from noticing they may have him at half health (game terms)
And what about some kind of non-violent martial art? Or lots of the sleeping drug.
Well Math might work, or Max at high speed, but even smashing the ground or the hulk clap might take Math out, and V could go to town on the town if they refused to confront him.
Sleeping drug might work, if you could find a hypo that could pierce his skin at this point or get him to sit still long enough to inhale much aerosol. There’s always the risk of killing him with too high a dose or the dose becoming lethal as his power buff wore off over time, but I think that’s a reasonable risk for Arc SWAT to take at this point.
Will I get a trophy if I recommend taking out his other eye? He might be tough enough to tank a bullet, but I bet the light hook is precise enough, and Halo vindictive enough. The guy keeps making fun of her.
A bold suggestion if I may – what if someone undoes his belt? Will he become so embarrassed that his power goes poof?
It would be entertaining, but I doubt embarrassment is his kryptonite.
Folks, we’re missing the obvious solution here!
We need 5lbs of good quality marijuana, a large bong, lots of doritos (and dipping sauces) and a box set of “my little pony – friendship is magic”. Hippie power to the rescue! :-)
Of course, depending on which state this comic is set, that could be illegal (local authorities tend to frown on gratuitous my little pony sessions)..
The pot is a good idea, but I believe that much MLPFIM would probably violate the Geneva convention.
I find it real interesting how quickly this comic got all its fans. I mean, if we judgebthe nu!her of fans by thongs like ranking and comments, this comic, (265 pages), would hands down beat almost every other comic out their, and some of those have better update time, more comics, and equal story lines.
Heck, whatever DaveB’s secret is, it’s epic, even I’ll admit to this being one of my favourite comics.
I am sure the answer will be with Sydney, so far all I can think of is the unknown bubble, which some suggest could be used for healing.
The definition of violence is “the intentional use of physical force or power, threatened or actual, against oneself, another person, or against a group or community, which either results in or has a high likelihood of resulting in injury, death, psychological harm, maldevelopment, or deprivation,”
So I guess the intentional use of a power to heal and/or reduce injuries would be the opposite. Heal all the guys around them and he might be forced to power down.
Otherwise use tentacle to grab and hold him in air while they all go smoke bongs and peacepipes around him for a few hours. The tentacle like the balls seem to be resistant enough. Aka they resist all force against against them even if they cannot overpower them.
violence (ˈvaɪələns)
n
1. the exercise or an instance of physical force, usually effecting or intended to effect injuries, destruction, etc
2. powerful, untamed, or devastating force: the violence of the sea.
3. great strength of feeling, as in language, etc; fervour
4. an unjust, unwarranted, or unlawful display of force, esp such as tends to overawe or intimidate
5. do violence to
a. to inflict harm upon; damage or violate: they did violence to the prisoners.
b. to distort or twist the sense or intention of: the reporters did violence to my speech.
I was wondering about if Harem is able to get sick? If so, do all her copies get sick at the same time or only one copy at a time? If only one copy at a time, would she get rid of her sickness by teleporting?
Looking back at the wedgie from maxima. I would say if one copy gets sick all copies suffer the results. Every copy feels everything every other copy feels.
No, they’re all affected by unexpected, involuntary reactions only. A cold would only affect one unless she spread it to herself.
However, a heavy sneeze that results in a slight headache, would cause them to feel the headache
The sensory input is mixed, so any pain, nausea or general discomfort would presumably be shared. The other copies wouldn’t be sick, exactly, but Harem would be sick, even if only one copy has an actual illness. The other bodies would be physically healthy, but still feeling like shit.
Most likely, she could produce a temporary fix my un-teleporting the sick copy. However, I think the disease would still be there once that body manifests again. Blinking a copy doesn’t appear to reset it (since that would also reset hairstyles clothing, etc).
Seems like Vehemence still needs to breathe.
Let’s try this.
1. Have Dabbler use the ice spell to create a continuous sliding ramp (like Iceman from X-men).
2. Max pushes/punches V along the ramp to the nearest deep water (lake, reservoir, ocean) and knocks him into the deep part. [Max can fly while V can’t get firm footing.]
3. Drop Achilles on V, with orders to drown him. [Achilles can stay right on him since V can’t knock-back Achilles more than 3-5 feet, in water. Achilles can’t be broken and he doesn’t need to breathe.]
That should work (but it doesn’t include Sydney, boooo!)
btw: Step 1 should be to dig out Achilles.
Two big issues. Achilles is nowhere near as strong as V. V will just swim back to the surface like nothing. Other problem, that is one huge slide Dabbler would have to make to the nearest body of water, especially if we’re talking ocean.
Yeah, if I had to guess I would say Archon is based in New Mexico.
Alot of us think it’s Dallas, as that’s where Dave’s based.
It seems to me that Achilles would do with learning the type of grapple fighting martial arts. I’ve seen videos of one versed in that vs a different art. The guy locked up the other person completely
Achilles doesn’t possess nearly enough sheer strength to hold V. Vehemence might get put into a hold he can’t “slip” out of, but he’s strong enough to break any grip that Achilles could do.
Oh, I agree about the ‘long slide’ part, but maybe it doesn’t need to be continuous. Just created in strategic spots during the fight.
As for Achilles, he is nowhere near Vehemence strength, but the only “heel” for Achilles is that V can knock him back a hundred feet or so. In water, this knock-back is negated.
Underwater, V hits Achilles very hard. Achilles is knocked-back 3 feet. He isn’t hurt, he isn’t stunned, he isn’t affected at all. He is swimming back to V as soon as he is hit. He can be back on V within 4 seconds, to keep him underwater.
Vehemence kicks Achilles very hard. Achilles is knocked-back 5 feet. He isn’t hurt, he isn’t stunned, he is swimming back towards V from the moment he is kicked. He can be back on V within 8 seconds.
Remember, floating in water, V can’t hit with full power because he doesn’t have a base (the ground) to stand on. So the knock-back may be even less than 3 feet or so.
Anytime V manages to get to the surface, Maxima drops something heavy on him.
Imagine if Achilles gets his hand in V’s mouth (ewwww). He can’t bite off Achilles fingers, he can’t break Achilles arm.
If he can’t be knocked-back, Achilles can be very hard to deal with.
I wonder if exposure to 1970s Hippy style “Peace & Love” can act like Kryptonite to this guy.
I’m going for the ‘tickle him into submission’ option. Non-violent and can safely be done by Sydney with the lighthook and her shield.
I’d probably go for one of two ways to stop him.
One involves using some way to infuse him with a sense of apathy. Even if he continues to power up from any violence around him, he still wouldn’t *do* anything with his power.
The other would be to cover him with itching powder. Sure, he’ll still initiate violence, but he’ll be using it on himself…Turn his own violence against him & he might even wind up flaying all of his flesh off. cover your eyes, because that’s not a pretty thing to watch…
I don’t know if anyone else’s suggested this yet, but I recommend throwing Deathknell at him.
No idea what would happen, but with a guy whose superpower is countering an opponent it’s gotta be something cool.
Terrible plan. All V has to do is not punch Death Toll and his power does nothing. He might pick him up in one hand and use him as the world’s best shield, though.
Let me guess…Your name is “Fnord,” but we don’t have enough security clearance for you to actually show us?
;)
I have a skill level of 30 in Fnord
Good enough to be past the “theory” stage & into full-scale research, at least.
;)
Yup
I’m level 20, which is “scholar” rather than “researcher.” That’s why I recognized it so easily.
Actually this is easy. Now that they know his power every member of the team has an appropriate response.
Maxima needs to dig Achilles out of the rubble, then keep bringing him back to the fight and move Vehemence back to ground zero every time he lunges at anyone. She can also keep Vehemence swinging at her while using super speed and martial arts to dodge.
Anvil is obvious and needs to take the lead on this.
Halo protected by her shield needs to use Lighthook to restrain and tickle while retracting it every time he tries to break free. Give him nothing to use.
Harem needs to do another equipment run. She needs tranquilizers for Peggy, Goose and Shawn. Then her 5 person vorping martial arts is perfect for the situation. She can use her tranq gun and start piling pillows around him.
Dabbler can use sleep and relaxation spells every one will weaken him. She should also use hypnotism which I am sure she has since she does everything. She also probably has technomagic shields available that absorb energy.
This will take a long time because he is so powered up but as long as everyone works together they can prevent him from leaving the area and force him to use his stored up energy until he can be restrained. Other team members can join in as they recover.
Cool as that sounds, it would be another 15 to 25 pages of this fight. I think Dave plans to wrap it up much more quickly.
Considering what we saw earlier even Maxima couldn’t break Halo’s shield, also there’s no proof Halo can’t form the shield around another person instead of herself. So she tosses her shield around the guy and lets him burn through his energy trying to punch his way out. Or until the air runs out.
Every panel has proven the distance the shield can be around her. She had to move in order for the shield to cover the reporters instead of leave them with Maxima inside with them while she made things go kablooey
I don’t think Maxima attacked the shield at full strength, so she might be able to break it.
As for the shield idea, the author of the comic DaveB has said that Sydney has to be inside the shield.
Well, what does he know? Just because he’s the author….
My 2 Cents
1: I think Vehemence likes a good fight enough that he would give the Team a break so they can power up Dabbler in a lesbian Orgy . Then they can duke it out together ( probably become the embodiment of angry sex ) . Id really like to see our somewhat stuck up Maxima going down for the good of the Team :-)
2 : I have read all the comments and since it has never ever been mentioned by anyone at all :
Sidney could trap him inside her shield ( until he faints )
Liar. It’s been mentioned forty times, and every time we point out that Sydney has to be inside her shield.
Liar it’s been mentioned at least 50 times minimum. The only reason I can see for people thinking she has to be in her shield is because so far she has been. (inside her shield that is) Unless DaveB said for sure that she can’t in which case we need to hit anyone that mentions it ever again.
It is word of god, and we know (and V knows) she can only cast an illusory shield around her illusory self from the commball.
Dave B HAS OUTRIGHT SAID IT!
SIDNEY. MUST. BE. AT. THE. CENTER. OF. HER. SHIELD! Any solution involving Sidney’s shield as a cage must take into account that Sidney is there too! Sidney’s shield CAN work as a flail, a shield or a barrier to PROTECT others though.
And here’s your sign.
Have at ’em, Bill.
:D
Why? Why this fight…?
See the first Picture in the strip.
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It was Maximas Challenge!
How about a good old pepperspray? Little capsaicin to the eyes and nose should still work, if he can smell and needs to blink.
The problem with Vehemence (assuming he doesn’t have an upper limit to the energy he can absorb) is that the “use your weakest attacks and move on to the stronger ones if he’s still standing” approach is not only useless, but also buffs him up even more.
I suppose this will be finally solved by Scoville’s orbs (somehow?), but my approach would be attacking him with everything and hope you overwhelm him faster than he powers up. That means Maxima should go lethal and hit him in the face while firing a point-blank “particle cannon”, or something along the lines. After all, they’re a military unit, not the Justice League, so I don’t think they are above killing a target if it proves to be too difficult to capture (of if half of the city is likely to be destroyed in the process of capturing it).
Why not pick up “periwinkel Butt Sniffer” (aka “For whom the Death Tolls”) and toss him in front of V’s next attack, if his nemesis power activates on his own then he should provide the perfect counter for V’s superpower instantly. Probably draining his power and throwing out flowers out of his butt or something
Probably doesn’t work if he’s unconscious. Would be a good solution that they can’t easily repeat. I would like that, to make V a significant threat in the future.
Vehemence is like thanks for the violence chumps! Maybe if you used your words like we’re all taught in first grade this wouldn’t have happened.
All right, Peggy — take out his other eye, then it’s Miller time. Vehemence’s power is worthless if he can’t effectively use it.
That would have been an excellent idea: Two power levels ago…
Unless she can snipe with a tank turret or something. Can we get him to travel to the shore and see if Peggy can snipe with one of those old World War II naval guns? The really big ones? Maybe they can wave some smelling salts under Hiro’s nose and see if he can fetch just the gun section in time?
Quite few updates back I suggested Halo use her illusory self to float in front of his face at all times (if she can mentally control where it is standing at all times?) and force him to watch Barney on her Smartphone. Perhaps the magic users of the group could do something similar as long as it doesn’t affect him directly he should have trouble resisting it if it makes real light and sound in front of him.
I haven’t seen any indication that he’s tough enough now to stop another bullet.
It bounced off at least a power level ago maybe two. Those colors are kind of subtle to me but I thought I saw a yellow before the green… His strength went up so I assume his other abilities, like toughness, also went up. Heck he may be faster now too and be able to block it like Maxima. *shrugs*
Might work well enough to at least mess that eye up enough to stop him seeing with it but now at least there is some doubt as to its future effectiveness. I exaggerated for funny cause… well, I was amused anyway… :(
if I went Capt Kirk(or spidey on Electro) on Vehemence, he can become more powerful through violence, but there has to be a ceiling to what he can “eat” before he overloads and stops being the overlord
Says who? Why is that necessarily true, and even if it is, he could be able to kill Maxima with an effortless backhand before they get there? It’s too big a risk from their standpoint.
So why not try to recruit Vehemence now? Just explain to him that if he is on the bad side then they will do everything they can to disable him and then lock him away somewhere where he will never be able to tap even the slightest bit of vehemic energy. If however he joins the team he can plan on a steady diet of superpowered smackdowns. We still haven’t established that he is evil, just that he can’t get enough of the ultra violence.
First, you have to prove it, and by that, I mean they have to actually beat him. At the moment, ArcSWAT is in no position to throw any ultimatums whatsoever.
Mnnn, but this isn’t the Avengers, where you have a military organization dedicated to babying a bunch of insane heroes. This is a military organization MADE UP of heroes. They can’t go recruiting murderous would-be felons just because they’re strong, and trust that their addiction will keep them on the straight and narrow. Arc-SWAT isn’t looking for a Hulk, except to lock him in an underground happy place
I mean… they’ve got their hands full enough with just Dabbler. >.>
Yeah, Dabbler by herself is at least FOUR handfuls…Even if two of them are invisible most of the time.