Grrl Power #259 – Dirty pool
I told you Maxima fights dirty. This is a maneuver her and Peggy had oft talked about but were never able to employ until now. In the previous page, Max and Vehemence were parallel to the street outside the restaurant, this page starts off with Max having her back to the strip mall. Imagine her pacing around Vehemence while they talk until Peggy gets them lined up and calls it in Max’s ear. It’s another thing I would have liked to have drawn into the page, but since this isn’t a manga and I’m not putting out 12 pages a week, it was a nice little moment of pacing I needed to cut.
Something else I decided to cut was the exchange that wound up with Concretia on the roof there behind Peggy. I’ll just say it involved a claymore and leave it at that.
Firing the Barrett on top of that air conditioner would be SO loud. It would be the loudener. The glass muffler of gun accessories.
I found a cool looking kickstarter that may be too late to save, but might be worth checking out if you like quirky RTS games. The elevator pitch is Robot Apocalypse vs. Cthulhu Apocalypse. Humans are the resources. The machines need ’em for oil, the Lovecraftian horrors need their souls. It’s called Human Resources (get it?) and has a decent pedigree of developers behind it. They need a cavalcade of support to make their goal at this point, but who knows, if they get a big boost today, then tomorrow maybe they get some gaming press which keeps them going for the big final push. If nothing else, their pitch video is pretty amusing so check that out at least. Edit: Welp, looks like Human Resources has pulled the plug. Their projection models weren’t showing anything promising and it was costing them time and money to run the kickstarter, which personally I find worrying since I’ll be running my own for the book in… a few… look, my ability to project the length of my story arcs is clearly something of a stat dump for me, but anyway a kickstarter is… in my future at some point.
I wish I had more time for games. I somehow managed to finish next week’s pages a day early so I indulged a little and got Injustice: Gods Among Us on steam and played through the single player campaign. I’m much more of a Street Fighter guy than a Mortal Kombat guy but it was fun enough, and the story was good, but it did have the problem of Joker getting punched through a stone wall then getting ground up by a mining machine and it only takes off 1/4 of his health bar. That’s the big problem with superhero fighting games (not that there are a lot of them unfortunately) but if it takes 1/4 of Superman’s health bar off, then when Harley Quinn gets hit by the same thing, there shouldn’t even be a molecule of her remaining. I know they had those super pills in the story, but the mining machine thing happened to Joker before he ever got his hands on them. If I made a superhero fighting game, I’d break the characters into tiers, and you wouldn’t be able to fight cross tier, or if you picked a lower tier, then it’d automatically become a team battle, like four vs one or something.
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There goes another tooth
Canine and premolar. For those who have been trying to find out which one is missing the problem is solved.
dun dun dun, another tooth bite the dust.
Actually I think that’s an eye…
Nah, your eyes are stuck in the skull. They could break though
Enucleation.
The object flying from his face after peggy’ shot is a bullet. (Very well mushroomed, nice work DaveB)
Sigh. The Tooth Fairy is gonna be busy with this guy tonight…The rest of you kids might have to wait for your own tooth exchange until tomorrow night.
And here I wondered what Peggy had been up too.
Looks like she got a close and personal visit from Concretia.
Damn I didn’t even notice Concretia laying there.
That is an awesome implied story. Nice touch
Peggy told her the Killing Joke. Concretia just broke up laughing.
I can’t tell if that’s a Joker reference, or a Monty Python reference.
yes
It’s hard to tell. We’d need something more solid to be able to determine which it’s from.
I have ironclad proof I picked it up from Clonezone The Hilaritor. From Nexus.
The Killing Joke was a Batman story, in which the Joker permanently crippled Jim Gordon’s daughter (yes, Batgirl) by shooting out a section of her lower spine. I’ve got that book & it’s also in Wikipedia.
As it was written in stone, thus how it was…
She was obviously made by US Federal Government standards. I mean look at how often you see the government stepping in to fix holes in the highway!
Peggy’s pot shots left pot holes. And the claymore closed the road show.
Well, it’s all over for Concretia…Because that’s her all over.
“Would you stop shooting me!”
*BANG*
“No.”
(see Peter’s Evil Overlord List: #7)
Damn.
Now I feel sorry for Vehemence. Poor guy just wants a good sparring.
And he gets a good spanking.
Only two letters are different.
Either way, Crybaby’s going to get exactly what he deserves. Be careful what you wish for… >:D
Looks like V’s gonna get spanked for sure, but Max is starting with his *face* cheeks. I love how Dave shows the facial distorting from Max’s punch. She’s definitely making an impact (& what promises to be a lasting impression) on him.
Bottom left says is is still better. I assume you meant is IT. Heh
Woo action. And Peggy.
I think the shot damaged V eye. There’s a blood trail from the eyelid as he goes flying.
Agreed but uh. Unsure how that’s at all related to my post.
sorry, wrong spot. that was for RobK.
Be careful V; it’s all fun & games until someone loses an eye…
Remember kids, safety first; especially when roughhousing around. Don’t try this at home (or anywhere else, for that matter)…These people are professionals.
Whoops dangit. It’s fixed now.
Also, last panel. “Is is still better? should probably be “Is it still better?”
The trouble with spell checkers is they only flag misspelled words. They don’t check if the word ewe rote is the write won.
xanath reference for the win
Also, response to DaveB’s Air Conditioner “Loudener”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIpLd0WQKCY
Dave, it helps if you clarify which games you like so people can suggest them. If you like FPS’s, I suggest Payday 2, Team Fortress 2, and Left 4 Dead 2. If you like RPG’s, Skyrim……well, Skyrim is about all you need.
I think he already played skyrim at one point. There was a joke somewhere how he just bearly finished comics because of it
Ah, but was it vanilla skyrim, or a modded skyrim? Did his skyrim look like this…
https://bit.ly/1wjrIq3
https://bit.ly/1qZZXiJ
Or like this? (I’m gonna be kind of a twat and show some of my screenies, lol)
https://bit.ly/1Ds7G0K
https://bit.ly/1om3sEJ
There are also quest mods that are damn near full on expansions, like Falskaar and Wyrmstooth that add hours of enjoyable content.
Aaa, ENB mods. Though art glorious
Here’s a secret….I don’t use ENB’s.
Climates of Tamriel then?
It’s been awhile since I played Skyrim, so if there are any new fancy mods I’m unfortunatly unawere
About 10k or so last I checked. For good ones at least. Many more that just break the game.
Good point
CoT is in there, yes. Along with like 5-6 other tweaks to lighting and such.
Urgh. I hate those environment blur mods. If I wanted to be unable to see five feet in front of me, I’d play with my glasses off.
Lighting mods which remove ambient light, though, are awesome.
That’s not a blurry environment mod, what I think you’re seeing is the smoke coming off the candles and fire hanging in the air.
I liked that “Moonpaths to Elsweyr” mod.
Any mods that resemble the Conan MMO? Where you can have your female characters topless? If not, not interested
Topless? Sure, plenty of armor mods that do that, and more
plenty of Body mods have ya naked. (I been screwing my way across Skyrim. Yes the Dragonborn is a man-slut)
Solbet, this one: https://bit.ly/1Ds7G0K
where’s the hair from? I like it!
It’s based on Merida, from the Brave movie. Just to warn you, if you want to use it, it is A) somewhat of a system hog, cause it uses an outside physx jigger to get working, and B) can make your game kind of crashy in certain situations (getting kicked by a giant into orbit can make it happen). But most of the time it’s a really nice hair mod. Here’s the link for it.
https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/52516/?
I’m an old school Doom 1 and 2 and Quake 3 guy, so games like TF2 are painfully slow to me. Granted most modern FPSs are but for some reason TF2 is a particularly bad offender. I put over 100 hours into Skyrim when it came out, then lost my progress when I lost a hard drive. That’s ok though, I was pretty much finished with the game at that point.
As for the sort of games I like, mostly FPSs, but lately I’ve gotten into Roguelikes, almost entirely thanks to Crypt of the Necrodancer. I like how I can take a 5-10 minute break from drawing and knock out a few tries. Although it’s turning out I like Necrodancer more than any other Roguelike that I’ve tried yet. The book I’m reading, Red Sails in the Fallout is a Gamma World novel, and it made me want to try Nuclear Throne, which is ok, but the games last like 90 seconds. I prefer having a little more investment into a run.
I detest MMOs both for the lack of player agency and for the time commitment. It pains me to see awesome art design wasted on one, like Wildstar.
I play MMOs primarily because it is cheaper than 3 hour cross-Pacific phone calls to hang out with family and old friends while I am in Japan and they’re in America.
If you like Roguelikes I would suggest FTL. It’s tense and fun and your eventual failure is sometimes more fun than your occasional success.
As an MMO player… I will agree to the lackof agency in some. WoW has three kinds of quests for the whole game: COllect x number of items. Kill x number of enemies. Take idiot AI from point A to point B.
On the other hand GW2 has a very different set up, and they reward you for random helping of other players and exploring the map (you literally get geat and supplies for completing the map!). Plus GW2 only has the initial cost to buy, and anything you want to buy from the in game store. So there is no monthly cost. And your achievement points actually have a point, unlocking skins and account boosts.
But hey to each their own. I don’t own any next gen systems and only want the portibles. x3
I’ve owned nearly every mainstream console released in the US, (not the Turbo-Graphics 16, 3DO, Neo Geo, stuff like that, but all the Sega/Nintendo/Sony/MS ones) but somewhere between the PS3 and 360 I stopped playing console games, I’m strictly a PC gamer now.
Not sure just how much “retro” you like your games to be, but [Amazon.Com] still carries this book which comes with a CD of 87 working IBM-PC games that are so *very* vintage, you’ll need to first download-&-run a “16-bit DOS emulator”, because they can’t work on 64-bit architectures:
[https://www.amazon.com/Fatal-Distractions-Beaten-Maimed-Mauled/dp/1878739778]
…the emulator I’ve been using is “DOS-Box”:
[https://www.dosbox.com/]
This book is my 1-stop compendium of the “History of Computer Gaming”, from “Adventure” (AKA: “Colossal Caves”) up to & including the first iteration of “Doom”.
(“Trekkie”-Bonus: it’s edited & reviewed by David Gerrold!)
Dear god, TF2 is too slow to you?!
I prefer FPSes that are more tactics based than reaction based, and TF2 is about as fast a FPS as I can play and not feel endlessly frustrated.
Anyway, roguelikes. I’m guessing you prefer fast pased ones here too?
It was funny, my stepson saw me playing some Quake Live and he thought the speed was blinding, cause he’s grown up in the era of CoD and TF2.
If you’ve never played the original Quake here’s an in depth walk through…
OK so not really a walk though, and not really in depth, but it’s a complete Quake run through of all levels done in 13 minutes from start to finish.
I can just say that that’s not how I remembered playing it. Total play through time for me was many many hours, probably days! But it was fun watching this again, remembering the hours I spent trying to kill all those creepy monsters that insisted on murdering me at every turn.
Well, Dave, the main problem is with the speed problem is that you’ve played pubs. With idiots. Who only hang back and hope that someone else kills the enemy for them. Have you tried Mann Versus Machine? You deal with a lot less idiots, but it can be quite intense, even if it’s against AI.
Bah, need an edit button. I meant the slowness towards TF2. CoD is a farm for retard’s and children who need a backhand to the face.
I used to like FPS’s & RPG’s that use real-time combat, but since I’ve grown “over the hill” my reflexes ain’t what they used to be. I used to be able to grab a housefly right out of the air, but now I’m lucky to get them with a flyswatter, even when they’re standing still…
If you like Roguelike games I’ve seen some good things said about “Shadow of Mordor”. Totalbiscuit even gave it his grudging approval. Of course he did point out a few things that could be better but TB is never going to be totally happy.
I’ve already beaten Shadows of Mordor (which was really good BTW), but it’s not a Roguelike. Roguelikes are a reference to an ooooooold game called Rogue, I think the graphics were literally ASCII characters, so you were a little @ and the orc was a # or something, that’s how old it was, but the game was defined by its randomly generated maps and other elements, brutal difficulty and perma-death, so games now that share most of those elements are referred to as Roguelikes, and games that play with the formula and only include some of those elements are called Roguelike-likes or sometimes Roguelites.
Okay. Personally I’ve been more of an rpg/fps type of gamer. Fallout, Skyrim or old stuff like Duke3d and Redneck Rampage. I played WOW for a while but being a anti-social loner means you miss a lot of stuff and leveling can be harder. I don’t really like games where everyone else is crowded into my escape from reality. I had a very public job and people in real life can be just as annoying as the trolls in the games.
EXACTLY! If I wanted to be sociable, I wouldn’t be on the computer in the first place. I’d be having a beer with friends……
If anyone wants to try out a classic rougelike game, Nethack is free to play online.
Just fire up your favorite telnet client (putty works fine) and prepare to die over and over as you learn that The Dev Team Thought of Everything.
Crypt of the Necrodancer is one of my favorite roguelikes, second to One Way Heroics. Look it up; maybe you’d like it too!
I never really got into any of the Doom games until Doom 3. I don’t always play it much, but when I do, I put on the headphones & turn out the lights…Damn good graphics & good use of “ragdoll physics.” Good job done in setting the mood & LOTS of surprises.
Doom 3 is a veeeery different game from Doom 1 and 2. Except for both being FPSs and having some similarly named monsters and guns, they’re about as far apart on the spectrum as you can get. If nothing else, the walk speed in Doom 1 and 2 is much faster than the run speed in Doom 3.
I have to agree with Dave. Doom 3 is akin to the slow child in the classroom compared to the Doom’s 1 & 2. It’s fun, great looking, but slooooooooow. Now I am looking forward to the Doom 1 and 2 remakes in the Doom 3 engine. If they manage to keep the speed and intensity that the originals had, and maybe even crank it up a notch, that’d be awesome.
Actually, Doom 3 is mostly like a re-write of what Doom 1 was all about. Upgraded 3-D modeling & story-plotting cutscenes & like that. There’s more attention to “closer to real world physics” than in Doom1, which is why most things seem to go slower. However, the basic premise from Doom 1 is left intact. When I tried Doom 1, I had a hard time just understanding what the heck *that* particular graphic was supposed to be…which got me killed.
Oooh, dat’s gotta hoit!
I like how Vehemence switch between Mad Berserker and calm all the time.
Apparently Vehemence can’t handle bullets to the eye as well as Superman can. …Ouch.
He can’t handle a Max punch either. He’s out of his league. And if V was expecting a straight brawl with Max he’s gonna be a sad kid when the rest of the team adds the finishing touches.
It’s a 50 cal anti tank rifle. It’s like one step away from “fuck it, lets nuke em.”
Not even close, if Vehemence is going to be a regular she needs to step up to a 20mm Storm Gun with either HEAP or 20/12.7 DU Sabbo.
Peggy might have a 20mm somewhere, but since Harem probably took two trips to hump the Barrett and the ammo for it, Peggy probably uses the Osprey to carry it, or has someone else carry it for her.
Most 20mm Anti-Material Rifles (the debate is if they are Rifles or Guns because they are too large to be rifles) are built on the same frames as .50’s, there isn’t that much difference in Mass for the weapon, but if it’s just past Harems mass limit they may have one on stand by for delivery by Harrier, just in case Vehemence or someone with his armour/damage resistance shows up again.
Actually, they’re not too big. You know the main guns on the Iowa Class Battleships? Those were 16 inch naval rifles. The reason for that is that the barrels of the guns are rifled, so the projectile spins for greater accuracy.
Looks like a U.S. company started making 20mm rifles, Anzio Iron Works. It’ll fire a Vulcan round…. which gives Peggy a lot of options, if she can bring it into the field.
Barret makes a .25 mm sniper rifle.
https://www.weaponscache.com/forum/nfa-class-3-title-ii/1917-barretts-xm-109-25mm-sniper-rifle.html
Of course, it weighs 47lbs and kicks like a mule on steroid and jolt cola…..
This would be a step closer to “fuck it, lets nuke em”:
20mm aircraft cannon bolt-action rifle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ft2j6J4NcY
I think there might be a 30mm aircraft cannon rifle as well, but I can’t seem to find and footage of it.
If someone designs a cartridge, someone else will make a rifle to handle it. And then someone even crazier than both of them will make a handgun to fire it.
I was just looking at Dave’s art of Max’s gun. It’s a .577 Rex. The cartridge was designed with a one-shot kill on a dinosaur in mind.
If a bigger bullet is needed, someone will make a bigger gun to support it.
Sometimes even if it’s not needed, bragging rights will lead into very large holes at the muzzle end and chambers that echo when empty.
Not a bad vid, but it doesn’t show what happens to the *target* in there. This vid shows what a 20mm round does to an engine block: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8FzzEyegJQ
I’d almost go so far as nicknaming it “Superman’s Rifle.”
I know of no 30mm rifle…
But there is definitely a chain of progression from .50 BMG:
First would be the 14.5x114mm Russian cartridge first used in the PTRD and the PTRS, it put out nearly twice the muzzle energy of the American .50
Following that, you could say the Anzio, but if that’s not working, it’s definitely time to step up to the Lahti L-39 or the Solothurn S18-1000 chambered in 20x138mmB. Longer barrels, very hard hitting rifles, and semi-automatic with 10 round magazines.
Then you might as well switch to Tactical air strikes from an A-10…
I’d say he is taking it quite well. Peggy hit him straight in the eye with a .50 BMG and the bullet bounced… (see panel 4, pank!)
That’s pretty impressive in my book. I’d be surprised if it resulted in anything worse than a black eye.
Yea, if she’d shoot supes the bullet would have splattered instead of bouncing, and the same probably goes for Achilles, but I still think he did good.
My guess is that so far Peggy has been using M2 ball or M33 ball ammunition. Seeing Fedorka stopping one of those with his eye she would probably like to step it up a bit with something like M2 AP, M903 SLAP or even the mythical .50 DU round if it exists in the GrrlPower universe.
It seems to imply a bloody eye. He is hidiously damage resistant… but it doesn’t mean the blow wont hit like a brick to the face to us.
Not arguing that it hurt, but I doubt he’s going to loose the eye. I’m guessing he has some kind of healing factor power. Granted it’s slow, if he has it at all, but I really think he has some way of regenerating tissue. The way he is ignoring the damage done so far suggests this.
Another rather disturbing thought just popped up. What if he is dying? Could be his mutation comes with rampaging cancer, or his body is aging at an accelerating rate giving him a very limited lifespan. This could be his moment of glory. Winning or loosing doesn’t really matter to him, just this one chance to go up against the best he could find and go out in a bang, making sure he will always be remembered.
The line from The Rock “I’d take pleasure in guttin’ you, boy.” just jumps into my head for some reason. xD
Moe Howard would be so proud of Peggy, even if it is only a 1 doinker.
She wanted V to see what was coming.
DAMN! 50 cal to the eyeball…
Even if you are armored, that is going to hurt. And we already know he CAN be hurt.
A couple more shots to the head like that last punch from Maxima, and regardless, he is going to have SERIOUS brain damage.
HIT HIM AGAIN!!!
Better than a poke in the eye with a sharp stick. NOT!
Unless you are the poker and not the pokee.
This was so worth waiting for.
As a marksman I would have never thought of that.
BRILLIANT !
.50 caliber at close range for a severe distraction is rare.
Because with regular humans .50 caliber at close range do a lot more than just distract.
Hehe, understatement much?
Uhh, yeah. 50cal BMG goes within a foot of a squishy human’s arm, the shock wave will take the arm OFF. Seriously, you don’t even have to hit somebody to kill him, it’ll just kill him slower if you miss because then he’s going to have to bleed out and go into shock.
If only this were true…
Sorry, but that’s not quite true:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PoaMLRUe0I
Yeah, that’s quite a bit of hyperbole. Here’s a guy who has his ear protection taken off his head by a .50 cal ricochet, and the only damage he suffers is possible bleeding caused by the ear protection as they were ripped off of his head.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QokV7HzJhG4
This is one lucky man. 2 inches difference and he would have been killed by his own shot.
If he could lose a tooth from a punch, how could they be sure that barrett shot wouldn’t just go through his eye and instakill?
Max gave him two chances to quit. Consequences were all his. As it is V may have lost that eye. A permanent reminder to all who see it, do not mess with Archon.
But then he gets to wear an eye patch. That increases his coolness factor. (Just ask Sydney).
Until he flashes an Alfred E. Neuman grin.
That would increase it even further
I’m still wondering if he has slow regen or something cause he is awfully cocky for someone with just strength, armor, and lesser speed vs. someone with all that, greater speed, two more powers and a whole team plus unpowered back-up. He really struck me as someone who goes into a frenzy or berserk and maybe looses some IQ points sure but the “other half” of his personality seems to really think about these things (sitting back and scoping out powers etc… ). There has to be a hold-out power or something…
Probably because they know how much force is behind those punches. Stalwart and Max hit HARD. Spread out over a wider area than a .50 cal bullet, but also much harder.
Also, they saw bullets bouncing off his skin earlier, so he has fair amount of bulletproofing. It was a gamble if the barrett would hurt him at all. That’s probably why they aimed for the eye.
Equally importantly, I think in a lot of ways this particular ‘verse is still feeling its ways towards ‘atypically powered’ humans and what proportionate responses are; in this /particular/ test case it can be convincingly argued that he was offered several chances to stand down, multiple attempts at nonlethal takedowns had been attempted, and the lives of federal officers were in danger, so Max was justified in calling for a potential kill shot.
Agreed, he had a copious amount to “stand down”…
Held his own versus various other heavy powers taking very little damage. His desire to inflict harm and not stand down marks him as a high danger threat.
Shot most likely would not kill though it might wreck the eye.
But if they were wrong it was a clean kill over a force you would endanger more lives battling than stopping.
Given his power level and deliberately antagonistic attitude, I think he can be deemed an imminent threat. Especially given that he said he’s behind the group of supers that just attacked the restaurant containing civilians.
Also, how does a Barret shot compare to a punch from Stalwart?
They have probably studied their capabilities, and know just how hard Stalwart for example hits compared to the guns. Vehemence had already demonstrated ignoring automatic rifle fire.
Barring unusual powers like impenetrable skin but not eyes for example. But Vehemence has probably used enough force that “potentially lethal” force is acceptable.
Seriously, there’s no “probably” there. Heck, in the current state of American law, the police would have been using lethal force on this group about 5 seconds in to the fight, on everyone who could possibly be part of the group, and there would be no penalties for it.
Lucky for our story it is not Real World ™ America but a well written fantasy loosely based on it and the preconceived notions of the reading audience on how the world should work.
As a note, current police forces use lethal force in these take downs because they do not have the protection, weapons, and force to do nonlethal most of the time. As new tech becomes more available they try harder for non-lethal if they can.
Archon could turn into a great government response force for more than just other supers and natural disasters. Imagine the issue at Waco. Archon could send in Max, Anvil, and Stalwart to disarm the militants without allowing any of the others to be harmed by panicked pray and spray. This would have lead to a gentler take down instead of the mass deaths that did happen.
because anvil punched him with enough force to lift a space shuttle, so if something that can move 75 tonnes average (minimum, since that’s the force he used and Anvil’s a kinetic absorber) took out a tooth, its safte to assume the barret won’t be a killing shot – 50cals are nice, powerful weapons but…not in that league, sadly
and even disregarding that, he’s also survived close range grenades and getting stepped on by said 75ish tonnes
I think there’s some confusion here. It was Stalwart who knocked out the first tooth, and it was he who weighed “as much as the space shuttle”.
After that Vehemence punched Stalwart and knocked him back. I think I remember DaveB saying V followed up with a head butt that sent Stalwart flying, so it wasn’t a single punch.
How much power Anvil was able to release as she punched Vehemence we don’t really know. First it was the power she gained from being molestorbed at V. Then she got a bit more from his punch that was intended for Maxima. We do not know how perfect her kinetic absorption is, and we have no idea how much power V used in the one swing, so the only thing we really know is that she had enough to launch V so Max could have a swing at him. And even then Anvil didn’t do enough to inflate V’s dental bill.
Then there were the grenade… That was a flash bang grenade Harem vorped in with. It’s not designed to cause damage but to temporarily blind, deafen and shock people so you can get a tactical advantage. It will bang you up quite bad if you have it delivered to your face like that, but then you and I are squishy norms, while V is a super that either are able to soak a lot of damage or has some kind of armor like power, so to him it was just an annoyance.
But yea, Vehemence has shown himself to be a tough one. There were some rifle fire coming his way that didn’t even make a dent. I’d guess that it was either 5.56 or 7.62×51, and it had no effect what so ever. So yea, he was setting himself up as a prime target for Peggy.
No, DaveB wanted to follow up with the headbutt, but people have been complaining pretty much from the start (with in 3 pages) that the fight was taking too long that he decided to leave that out
Yes you are right. I reread Daves post and it says exactly what you wrote. I thought Dave wrote that it still happened out of frame, but reading it again I see that’s not the case.
Thank you for the correction.
You may have missed Beige’s train of thought, V can hit that hard, demonstrated by his hit on Stalwart. V then hit Anvil with at least that much force, which she absorbed and hit em back with, thus ‘anvil punched him with enough force to lift a space shuttle’. V was able to take that hit just fine.
Many assumptions there. We know V can hit that hard, we don’t know how hard he really hit Kenya. Yes I know, he thought she was Max so he probably put some effort into that punch so it was probably at least as hard as he hit Stalwart, but the point id that we do not know.
Then there’s the question of how effective Kenyas absorption power is. It appears that she can soak all the energy in his punch, or she would have been at least rocked back. What we do not know is how much of this energy she can send back. Is her power 100% effective? 90%? 80%? For all we know it could be some thing like 40% effective and it would still be an impressive power. Nothing has been said about this so we simply do not know how her punch compared to V’s, or if it would have been able to lift the space shuttle.
What we do know is that she managed to launch V and put him up so Max could send him back, and then she was able to jump and intercept him on his way to meet with Gaia.
There are a lot of unknown variables so it is very hard to claim that we know how hard Kenya actually did hit.
Anvil also had the not insignificant amount of kinetic energy she absorbed from landing hard on Vehemence.
On another note, Vehemence said it hurt, but that contradicts the villain who said that punching Anvil was like punching sand. Her absorption should work both ways: she isn’t hurt but neither is the thing she’s being hit by, or the thing she is landing on.
“is is still better?”
In any case.. nice coordinated attack… now I’m just REALLY hoping he gets up and dusts himself off & says “Ok Kakarot… round two!”
Yeah my bad, it’s fixed.
one, Keep hitting that same spot, eventually he’ll learn to turn the other cheek, as it were.
Two, Concretia got whipped by not one, but two “normal” humans. Anyone else find that terribly amusing?
Dave mentioned a claymore mine was involved. That is a good way to level the playing field. Still, I bet Connie was was scared out of her skin.
Claymore mines are great for levelling playing fields both figuratively AND literally.
And remember kiddies the arrow points to the bad guy when you place them.
Problem is they have a safety range of something like 500 yards. It’s been over 20 years since I fondled one, and I’ve not really been trying to remember the safety regulations, but if used at an open field you better hope the squishies on your side keeps their heads down when the claymores goes badaboom.
Just to clarify, a claymore will not kill everything up to it’s safety range. It will kill and maim unarmored personnel within 10 – 15 yards fairly reliably, and might kill some at greater ranges. The further away you are from the mine the better your chances are of walking away without any serious injuries.
The safety range is where it is calculated that there is no longer any risk of being killed by the shrapnel flying about, you might however still get a scratch if you’re unlucky. Extreme range is where there is no longer any risk of being hit by shrapnel, and this is way beyond the safety range.
Oh, and they do have a marking showing what side to present to the bad guys, but that doesn’t mean it’s safe to sit down behind it. It is an explosive device, and though it is designed so most of the energy is directed forward there is still a lot of crap flying in the other directions. So it is recommended that you set them up with a backstop. A tree, a rock or a pile of dirt will do, but in this case I’d think Peggy put it up against the wall around the corner of that structure we see behind her.
If I’m not greatly mistaken, a Claymore’s potential “kill zone” is a 6 meter radius from the center of the explosion, in *all* directions; a “cone-shaped” danger range projecting from the rear out to another 6m, being about 6m wide at the end of the cone-area; and the front “cone-area” 6m wide out to 75m in range.
So, yeah…Stand WAY back, even if you’re off to the side or back of it.
the standoff military states is well beyond prime kill/harm zone at 200m with 100m in emergency and solid backing the idea being multi placed and monitored either on single trigger or group of triggers for separate firings securing an area by one person while their team stands by with weapons ready
Mines are like grenades. They have no concept of ownership. Once set or thrown, they consider everyone a target.
Once his pin is gone, Mr. Grenade is not your friend.
The mine appears to have levelled Concretia as well.
I love the text on that time of device. Moulded into the facing cap is the phrase “THIS SIDE TOWARD ENEMY”. Absolutely beautiful.
Needs to have a smaller message under that, “If you can read this you are not getting away.”
Even if you ever see the first phrase, it’s already too late.
Too bad the Concretia ‘boom’ comic got cut out. I even thought up a good witty remark line for Peggy. “Well, we just found out what happens when Claymore meets Claymation”.
Clever indeed.
Would that make complaints from Concretia claimless?
Dave can still put it. Just put Sydney bothering everybody while they write the after action report to see what she miss in this party.
I would hardly call Peggy or Math Normal by any stretch of the imagination,
In fact I wouldn’t say anything about them without a minimum of a well constructed bunker.. and even then only if I knew their friends weren’t listening..
Normal in the sense of non super-powered. Batman was normal by that standard and he could still go to toe with supers. Even Darkseid respected how dangerous an opponent Batman could be.
What makes Batman so dangerous is because he plans & prepares every step he takes. Even if forced by time constraints to be limited to improvisation, he’s still likely to have considered & prepared for such similar contingencies. He uses a well-thought plan to stay one step ahead of his enemies. Batman can still be stopped by sheer brute force if he’s not prepared, but it had better be enough force to kill him outright…Or he’ll be back.
Batman vs. Victor Cachet of the Republic of Haven would be interesting for that reason. Mad improvisational skills on both sides.
how would you rate Honor among that group? more or less improv skills?
Honor is, plain and simple, TERRIFYING!
Yeah, and Peggy pegged her twice
at LEAST twice, that we know of. i’m sure there were more that were off-camera, otherwise how did she find Peggy up there on the roof in the first place?
Probably because they know how much force is behind those punches. Stalwart and Max hit HARD. Spread out over a wider area than a .50 cal bullet, but also much harder.
Crud. Meant this as a reply to someone above. Ignore, pls.
Wow, Concretia met a claymore and there is more than just dust??
In other news, Peggy has a career change, now a long range optometrist for super villains. other jobs lined up include long range dentist and short range audiologist.
A lot of bits seem to be missing, like the upper torso. I think the dust might have blown away in the blast and all that’s left are the solid chunks.
A claymore is an anti personel mine. Low explosive, high shrapnell damage.
Concretia is a little thougher than human flesh. Shrapnell doesn’t do much against solid rock
Rock is Brittle. rock, concrete, bitumen they all suffer very badly from frag, especially at sub 1m, which is the space left for said clamore..
at 5m+ they fair much better..
You mean optometrist, not dentist. Peggy shoots Vehemence in the eye. The second missing tooth comes from Maxima’s punch.
I meant dentist, she just isn’t using those skill right this minute, 12.7mm APDS root canal from 1200m
Peggy would only be a diagnostician in those fields. She could only check to find out if you *had* those particular senses…At least, before the testing.
“Fights dirty” seems inadequate to describe “will have you shot in the face with anti-vehicular weapons.”
As for Human Resources, nothing I’ve heard about Planetary Annihilation makes me trust that they are capable of creating a good game, sight unseen, and that’s even if I was a fan of the humans-as-resources pitch.
You kidding me? That’s my favorite part of the whole thing.
To bad they want a full online game though. Not a fan of those
The definition of “Fighting Dirty” depends on how big the “guns” in question are.
If you’re dealing with a threat that can dual wield semis as weapons … fighting dirty probably starts with hitting him with an oil tanker. But that’s just the warm up. Copious amounts of grenades, several flash bangs, all those thrown at him in quick succession work wonders. Then there is all that oil. And the semis he’s carrying.
You didn’t really Need the oil tanker, but it did make the explosions so much more wonderful.
Well, when you enemies are specifically defined as being “super-powered,” who ever said that they had to fight fairly? As a “peacekeeper” force, ARCSwat has to be equipped & coordinated enough to take out super-powered threats *as quickly as possible* or risk prolonged battles that would continue to cause more harm & damage to civilians & property.
I think in this case fighting dirty would be shoot Veh in the eye with an Anti Tank weapon, like a Carl Gustav or a Javelin Missile.
Excelent!
It shouldn’t be a fair fight 1v1, it should be about trying to take down the badguys. So nice teamwork!
Military training + basic common sense = it is NEVER about having a “fair” fight.
If you’re not doing everything possible to win, you don’t deserve to win
yep… Maxim 37: There is no ‘overkill.’ There is only ‘open fire’ and ‘I need to reload.
or maybe: 35. That which does not kill you has made a tactical error.
Firepower, if it isn’t work you aren’t using enough of it.
“A fair fight is a sign of poor tactics”
I read a Trek novel or maybe fanfic once where a cadet at Starfleet Academy actually won the Kobayashi Maru fair and square, just by being a prepared badass.
At the start of the test, above mentioned cadet got the call from the Maru and told her `crew` to head there. She then ordered all security personell to prepare for eventual boarding attempts by the enemy (in this case: Klingons).
Obviously, the Klingons attacked just as the cadet`s ship had lowered shields for trying to rescue the Maru survivors.
the cadet however, had the Klingons hailed.
Lets say she was quite colorful in her goading the leader of this group into personal honor combat.
At the end of her `lost` personal combat, she laughed.
She`d won this fight simply by finishing her duty as `captain` of that vessel.
Crew, ship and the survivors were safe.
V’s weakness appears to be that he feels the pain of the attack, even if it doesn’t really hurt him. Unless he’s a serious masochist, this can be used against him. How about some super fast razor blade cuts followed by a splash of lemon juice. Let’s overload his senses until he collapses.
I don’t think he can be cut by normal blades, if bullets can’t pierce him. Though salty lemon juice to the eye may work, it is relatively hard to carry out – maybe if they dipped a bullet in it? :D :P
If so, how about chili peppers (maybe get some recommendations from Sydney) OR just use good old-fashioned tear gas? See how he enjoys stopping a triple-strength cannister of that with his face.
Suspect though, that any weakness he might have in this regard is more complex than that. IF it actually is a thing in the first place.
Sydney’s Yoga Hwarf!
Erm… what is Maxima doing in panel 9? Is she flipping Vehemence over?
Yep, the dreaded flip/spin punch. Spin him one direction, punch him the other.
Maxima starts horizontal by V’s ankle with a hand on same. Next panel she is standing and the hand that was on V’s ankle is in an ‘end of throw’ position. I’m not exactly sure of the maneuver but it was definitely a throw timed for the split second after the bullet hits.
I think the camera ‘position’ changes in panels nine and ten.
Just a guess, but I think she wants him horizontal so she can use the planet as an anvil as she punches him to a pulp. Saves her from having to keep running after him after each hit.
Ah I see now. Thanks. :)
You know, I really thing V was telling the truth both times he responded to the whole “Why are you doing this” question.
Good guy, no. Bad guy… Maybe not? Blood knight, definitely.
Doy, “think.”
He wants both a good fight, AND he wants Arcon to succeed?
Yea, I’m guessing the same thing.
I also doubt Maxima is going to actually beat him. He’ll escape
I suppose that would be thematically appropriate.
Maybe he’ll get Arkham-ed. Cart him off to jail and once the dangerous people are gone he’ll reveal he’s got a power like phasing or teleportation. Maybe a spell since he seems knowledgeable about magic. About a lot of stuff actually.
as to the tactic…hey, what works, works.
And that’s the problem with FMJ rounds (judging from how it mushroomed) versus armor-piercing. Sigh. No penetrating power, at all, at all…
Peggy really needs to invest in some better ammo. Preferably Raufoss Mk 211.
Whatever works. Peggie probably has both, and maybe even more exotic rounds besides (think of some of the loads Hellboy had for HIS gun), but she still has to make a judgement call.
Plus, she has probably expended a lot of ammo at this stage anyhow.
Also, seeing how she is shoting a guy in the eye, she might actually make the judgment call that she dosn’t want piercing power, as if she misscalculate, she will kill him rather than distract/hurt him
That shot was meant to distract, rather than kill.
While Maxima wouldn’t mind killing him at this point, I gues she still wonders if she can arrest him
She probably custom loads her own ammunition
from what i heard, the sniper units have somebody that does that for the actual sniper, meaning that, that is their only job: to precisely reload and test fire every single round that they use, and that NONE of the ammo is “stock” off-the-shelf stuff… not sure how TRUE that is, but it kinda makes sense…
Wasn’t a sniper myself, but I associated with enough. The guy I knew loaded it all himself, but that was only because he was about as paranoid as one could get concerning being as accurate as possible.
Test firing every single round would seem to not leave any for the sniper to actually use.
Usually QC on ammo only actually fires one or two out of about a hundred. Weight and length are what get checked. Weight to ensure proper powder charge and length to ensure the bullet is seated right. Hand loading is a constant series of checks as the process goes along.
And if you’re a civilian, i.e. the government isn’t paying for your shells, reloading anything bigger than about a 30-06 makes a lot of sense, because things start to get really expensive. $5 per round isn’t at all out of the question, and discarding your brass starts to look rather frivolous.
For serious target shooting, reloading is the only way to go. The closer attention to detail makes for a major payoff at the range. Some competitions are factory ammo only to make it easier in beginners. Still loading gear will be the next big budget buster after the rifle.
I’ve always been baffled by this. What we see here is large scale automation being surpassed by someone spending huge amounts of time (relatively) on each shell, carefully measuring and weighing the powder.
I know we’re talking accuracy on the grain level, but I’d think that machines could do it better and faster than a person doing it manually.
But perhaps there’s a difference between reloading for accuracy and reloading for cost saving of which I am not aware. I’ve only seen the latter, and while there was of course care involved it didn’t appear to be such a precision operation that it was concerned with a grain up or down. Perhaps the former need to speed a lot of money on a much more accurate scale?
Target shooters dial down to tenths of a grain, weight each bullet, have loads adjusted to outside temperature/humidity variations and take other steps that mass manufacturers really doesn’t need to duplicate to turn out excellent ammo. Yes they’re crazy, but hey everyone needs a hobby. ;-) No, I just know some guys. Too rich for my blood to go beyond .22 rimfire.
Mk211 for general purpose, m903 for idiots like V. Carl Gustav for serious problems…
I wouldn’t be surprised if she had a tame Warthog pilot standing by for the serious problems…
The problem with A10 is collateral damage. Now a laser guided 2 3/4″ rocket, particularly with the cry 7 motor and one of the ke warheads… The anti tank flechette would still have collateral damage risks, but 5 flechette each capable, iirc, of penetrating the NATO medium or heavy armor target array… or, of course, a hellfire. I wonder if V’s defenses are equivalent to over 800 km of steel armor?
800km? 500 miles of armor? Did you mean 800mm, or is this some obscure reference I’m missing?
stupid autocorrect! of course I meant 800 mm of RHA equivalent…
This is fighting smart, not dirty. :)
Exavtly. If the enemy has (or is) a tank, you don’t throw your tank at it, you use something that specifically takes out tanks.
Yep. And one on one? Why? This isn’t some called-out duel with rules agreed upon beforehand by both participants. Nor is it a sporting event.
Like Butch Cassidey and Bugs Bunny before him, “None of this (CRUNCH), and none of this (KAPOW) and especially not this (OH THE HUMANITY!).”
Well to be fair, smart and dirty are the same thing in a real fight
Pretty much. I object to the use of the word ‘dirty’ because it implies that someone has broken rules.
Outside of a sporting event or some kind of sanctioned duels, ‘rules in a fight’ are just (dangerous) assumptions on one side or the other.
I hope this guy has a dental plan.
At least he’ll look cool with an eyepatch.
Lisa needs braces!
His hold-out/original power is the ability to graft on parts and powers from those he defeats (tattoos hold it all together). So he has to defeat Maxima or go finish Stalwart in order to get a set of suitable replacement pearlies.
Hey Dave!
The events you say you have left out ( like Concretia and Peggy and other events) perhaps a book later with it all included?
I’d buy it.
Maybe in a flashback for a later page.
Yes, have a bit much later on where everybody tells “War Stories” about all the scenes that were skipped and the fans get to vote for what they would most like to see from each character in the comments! (frankly I’d be happy if you never skipped anything but then I am patient)
If you ever Kickstart a book, I’d donate heavily to see those extra pages!
And/or book and/or vote incentive. Flexibility is an excellent aspect of this medium.
Wow, this guy is really tough. I don’t know, somehow, before now, deflecting a bullet (eg. when superman does it in the movies) didn’t seem like a big thing. Dave makes a good job of depicting the seriousness of it. I’m not sure if it’s the deformed bullet or what, but somehow Vehemence appears more intimidating and tough than Superman in my mind now. So congrats! :D
But now I am really, really interested in what this guy’s motivation is. He is so keen on fighting, but why?! I hope we’ll find out.
He’s SO powerfull, he’s probably never had anything even resembling a real challange.
He saw this as his first chance of a real fight, and went a little mad at the prospect off it.
He probably didn’t even concider the posibility that Maxima is even stronger
And now that he has an inkling he like it even more.
Well, in the Superman movie when he took that shot to the eye, that particular bullet was from a handgun (after all those 50 cal bullets bounced off him). Supes has the “supportive powers” to back up his invulnerability; using Flight to prevent being knocked back & the strength to prevent his head from being jerked back. These powers are always in full effect at all times…Maxima’s primary weakness is that she can’t have those powers “maxed out” all at the same time to make it look as easy as Supes did.
Evidently, Vehemence doesn’t have the kind of speed & visual acuity necessary to have known Peggy’s bullet was coming, so the impact took him by surprise (hence, his head was knocked backwards). He also seems to lack any power of Flight to prevent knockback. Lacking in Flight power, the only means he can use his strength to prevent knockback is according to how well he has *traction* on the ground under his feet…A serious enough impact will still send him flying, even if it’s not serious enough to harm him in any way.
His eye is squirting blood from the hit. If he prevented knockback wouldn’t his eye, and possibly his brain, have taken even MORE damage? Preventing knockback may be a great idea for Superman but for lesser levels of invulnerability and plot armor maybe rolling with the punches might be a better idea.
Not being “full superman” isn’t really a primary weakness. She’s still incredibly powerful, and as long as no one ever finds out about her power reserve they’ll all think that she’s “full superman”, so she’ll still get maximum deterrence value.
true, but will only last until somebody tries to take her out the same way that the team took out FWTDT… by trying to get as much firepower of differing types all to hit her, all at the same time… she can’t block “all” of them depending of the type and energy levels, etc… so down she goes…
As long as it’s physical damage her armor ability in overdrive should be able to keep her safe. According to what Dave wrote she’d be unable to move, but would be almost as hard to hurt as Achilles. She will however be a sitting duck for any super with a non physical attack such as mind control or the ability to prevent her from getting oxygen (I’m guessing that she still needs oxygen, in contrast to Achilles who doesn’t need to breathe).
Actually if they are able to drum up enough physical attacks that she has to max out her armor then they might be able to kill her with something simple like a flamethrower. When she’s immobilized they use the flamethrower on her. The fire will consume the oxygen and she should suffocate. In theory that is…
Probably futile to respond to past comments, but you can’t dogpile someone as fast as Maxima is. She catches bullets when she wants to.
We did see a lower-caliber bullet bounce off his knee earlier. Even so, this seems like overkill for a guy who acts like the the guy who wants to pick a fight at the bar. He hasn’t gone after normals, he hasn’t done massive property damage, he just wants a brawl with more or less equivalent powers.
And now that I think about it, he did do massive bodily harm to Vektor. Sigh, I guess a bullet to the eye is warranted, but really, Max could have probably gone for a submission hold and won.
Max has picked V to make a horrible example of what happens when you mess with her in particular and Archon in general. She’s not there to satisfy anyone’s craving for a challenging fight. She is there to smash troublemakers into pulverized wreckage and haul the survivors off to face criminal charges for past and present offences toward Man and God. her nearest comic book counterpart is Judge Dredd not Superman.
He also set up this entire super villain battle royal, which directly endangerd all civies around (there were a few), destroyed a building, injured/knocked out sever off her team, and endangerd the rest.
I’m sure if he’d just walked up to Maxima and asked for a duel, he’d have gotten the fight off his life. Now it may be the last fight off his life
Do we know it was him who set it up?
He could have been lying, but “Would you believe I invited every anti-government, anti-police, anarchist, criminal and slash or nutjob with super powers I’d ever come across to help you justify the existence of your new agency? ” is a direct quote from him. Therefore, he can’t complain if they think he did.
We also know that Vekter knew Vehemence, and thought he was on his side. So they were atleast working tougether
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I actually like how you don’t pace around, makes Peggy and max seem like an even tighter combo.
While Max obviusly know where peggy was due to her overhead view earlier, peggy knew her old teamleader might want to do the combo attack, and positioned herself in order to give maximum support. They where even good enough to simultaniusly give her as signal to shot and a sight aid.
One other thing Max’s gesture did, it made V look up at just the proper moment.
They are by far the best we have seen at teamwork so far. Especially Peggy, she has realy been the unseen hero of this hero brawl.
They have had a longer time together. The flashback of Max in Afghanistan included Peggy in the folks gathered around her.
True though Harem, Anvil, Hiro, Stalwart, and Halo are excellent team players as well. No one is really bad at it but a few like Dabbler and Math need to be reminded about teamwork from time to time (more of a caught up in the moment thing).
Les, Morph and Heatwave would also have a great ‘team-work’ vibe going, seeing how they used to vigilante before Archon got hold of them
The Nelly soundtrack should have warned hiim.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqWZqQXk_Ao
He’s going to feel that one later.
And now, well mostly now.
Assuming he is still concious at this point.
Indeed! Otherwise he will only feel it after the anaesthesia wears off.
Time to blink red until hit again to show your true form, or something, you big boss monster!!
The only thing blinking will be his eyes. With cartoon TILT signs.
Maxima fights dirty, i.e. Maxima fights to win.
The only problem I see now is that the whole team together is so OP that dramatic tension will be hard to come by on the battlefield. That, plus it appears a lot of the super population of the world that is willing to fight them has fought them and is in custody.
On the other hand, Dave has gotten by very well without a battle every third comic, and there are other things to do that would make the odds a little more even, so I will certainly keep eagerly reading every Monday/Thursday.
Is there any other comic series where the “big super battle” happens early in the in-story timeline? What did those authors do to keep the series interesting?
While this battle may have been going on for a very long time (pannel wise), the main gist of this comic is the interaction between the characters.
Out of the 259 comics so far, the fight has actually only lasted 59. And it seems to be nearly over.
So that’s like 1.5 times as much interaction as fighting
And yet there’s nuggets of real interaction even within the fight scenes.
With a high page-count for just this battle, I still have to keep reminding myself that it’s probably been significantly less than a half-hour in comic-time since the villains brought down the roof.
Well, they are charged with helping out with more than just super battles, they also help out with natural disasters and what all Arianna said, and they have at least an entire nation plus well connected allies to assist. So if the team gets parted out to deal with multiple operations at once, possibly even ones set up as a distraction or enemy drones on multiple fronts or something, then they become more vulnerable. Note some of the ARCies didn’t do so well this fight.
All of the bad guys were entirely focused on them this fight which while it maybe makes it dangerous in some ways makes it way easier to contain and shape this fight to their liking since they were entirely in control of the mobile targets (themselves) most of which could defend themselves fine.
The bad guys were mostly untrained/experienced and the rest didn’t seem to have any training or perhaps desire to work together well. This is just a poor fight to judge how truly overpowered the whole team is.
Even assuming some of these folks were culled from other countries it seems like the amount of supers in this “team” may have shown a serious gap between the estimates of the whoever is doing statistical analysis of super numbers and the reality.
The bulk of the folk on the “villains page” has yet to roll out and attack yet.
With all of this I think there will be more battles and those battles will be harder.
BUT that isn’t really the primary stated focus of this web comic so expect tons of fun pages about the upcoming power analysis and training of newer recruits and Sydney as well as new training routines for the experienced ARCies based on this fights data along with peeks at whatever their usual maintenance routines and training were. Lots of opportunities for drama and highjinks there for a crew with as much personality as this one.
And lets not forget all the “cloak and dagger” and mastermind plots stuff going on in the background.
With every post I keep having more questions so for me until all those questions are answered there will always be something to write about here.
Speaking of trainees, has there been any word on there being off-screen members Sydney will be training with, or is she the only newbie and most of the training will be with the members already here?
Yup.
Anvil said ‘You’re a recruit and you’re not the only one’
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In the cast page Jiggawatt is listed as a recruit as well. Harem is listed as a cadet; officer material. That would have seemed unlikely until her performance during this fight.
we must remember this was almost the whole team in one place together in the future it will be smaller teams sent to distant locale limiting the resources available
It’s all fun and games until…
And that’s why you can’t have a BB gun for Christmas.
You’ll put your eye out kid.
Fighting dirty nothing, I’m pretty sure the whole point of a fight is to win.
No disagreement here.
Fighting dirty is the cry of a loser who got beat because the other person did anything necessary to win. Instead of being intimidated, they went off on on him.
Max isn’t going to give V the fight he *wants* to have. When I was in the military, they had a phrase for fighting to win. Max *isn’t* Burger King, so V’s not going to have it “his way.”
I think Gibbs (NCIS) said it best (paraphrased):
Gibbs (after soundly beating Tony in a boxing match): “I’m a marine. In the military, they…”
Tony (interrupting): “Taught you how to fight?”
Gibbs: “No. They taught us how to win.”
Or, as my Krav Maga instructor said: “Kick them when they’re down. Bite them when they’re not looking. If that doesn’t work… fight dirty.“
Well-put, sir. Well-put.
“He didn’t fight by MY rules!”
No kidding.
1) Fighting is inherently dirty – “clean” or “honorable” fighting is dueling
2) “Overkill” is only determined after the fact
Regarding the potential for lethality with the shot…
Going to note that there’s bone behind the eye. It’s not THICK bone, but it’s there – the eye isn’t just a passage to the brain (remember this next time someone says to stab Wolverine through the eye to get his brain).
Given his resistance to everything else, I imagine they were pretty confident that while the .50 might damage his eye, it probably wouldn’t smash through that bone to smoosh his thinking machine. :D
Technicually, the eye is actually part of the brain. An extention to be precise.
The nerves go directly from the eye into the main brain, there is a small hole in the skull. It’s one of the reasons why eye cancer is so dangerous, it can very easely spread to the rest of the brain.
So while there is protection, it sure is a weakness in the skull
Absolutely. Tiny little hole, kind of this overlapping thing down in one corner…one that the .50 isn’t passing through. :) It’s going to encounter bone.
Weaker than the rest of the skull, no doubt, but again, I figure they were pretty confident that between his super-tough eye (that’s weird to write) and the bone at the back of the socket, that bullet wasn’t going through.
technically, the eye is NOT part of the brain; it’s not even an extension of the brain. They are two distinct, individual organs with specific purposes. You can preserve an eye in a jar and, if properly linked to something, the eye will work its function. The same goes with the brain; you *can* cut off the brain from all sensory input & the brain works just fine.
The problem is that the brain expects to have constant streams of input so it can analyze/interpret the world outside of itself. When deprived, the brain starts to generate its *own* stimulus…Nightmares from the ID, anyone?
Sensory deprivation is a great way to trip out without failing a blood test the next day. But the setup costs some big bucks.
Also, without proper supervision I’d be worried about possible psychological trauma.