Grrl Power #241 – Appellation incarceration
Lost power at the house so I had to go to extreme measures to get this comic posted. By which I mean leaving the house with the laptop.
Really the takeaway from this page is that Anvil was a good choice to deal with Atomic Bombshell since her bombs are pure kinetic force for the first fraction of a second before they ignite the air and do all the cool looking fire stuff. That’s the technical term for roiling clouds of flame. Cool looking fire stuff. Since they’re just energy bombs, there’s no shrapnel to hit Anvil either. She can suck most of the kinetic energy out bullets and shrapnel and the like, but they move fast enough that her power can’t totally sap them, so she’s not totally immune to that stuff. She has minimal resistance to energy attacks like fire and whatnot. If Bombshell had thrown her bomb into the ground right in front of Anvil, then she would have been in trouble, but Maxima noticed she went for center mass every time. Obviously Bombshell never played much Quake.
I was planning on drawing Anvil’s clothes ripped up much more, down to boots, bra and a pair of bike shorts that she had the foresight to wear under her skirt, but I didn’t want to get too gratuitous. Well, I wouldn’t mind drawing that, especially when it makes sense. After all, she’s melee only (thrown objects nonwithstanding) and it’s not like she was wearing a kevlar shirt. Jokes about the size of her chest aside, it is realistic to consider that she might be wearing a “combat bra.” Something that’s going to have a better chance to survive some super powered melee and preserve her modesty – or at least the safety of those of you who read this comic at work. I wonder how tough you could make a bra and it still be comfortable. I assume kevlar is scratchier than cotton or silk. I guess something with multiple layers would be in order.
I’ve been wanting to draw more stuff happening in the backgrounds so that I could resolve several fights at once, but I don’t think comics work too well that way. The extra dialog playing out in the last few panels of this page I find to be rather distracting, so I suppose it really only works well with a long shot and multiple action scenes playing out, not multiple conversations.
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“Cool fire looking stuff” is OK, but personally I think Thermobaric has a better ring to it…
Or a thermo-barrel with a “funny crane” https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2008-12-31
LOL Thanks, I’d forgotten about that one…
I actually liked the extra dialogue in the background. It might not work so well in more serious panels, but it’s not too distracting here.
Death Nell is a garrulous loser. Drop an anvil on this jerk and let’s hope that’s the last of them.
Well, Anvil does have the drop on him.
Uh … Raging, I think we can apply the term “loser” to a vast majority of these guys. They’re definitely not professionals, unless you mean professional idiot in search of a town that needs one. The only one I wouldn’t call a Loser (because I like her) is Hex. I dunno why, but I like her.
I’d say at best some of them are “dupes”.
I suspect we react to Hex sympathetically because she is behaving realistically to facing overpowering odds. Some of the other don’t know they lost a minute after the fight started. Concretia wanted back in until Peggy changed her mind. And she may yet make a second try at one of Arc team.
Quacks like a duck, walks like a duck… Or does he? I’m a little worried that it may all be something of a con, and he’s actually more dangerous than he seems. Of all the antagonists, he’s about the only one not to have revealed either his powers or his face so far. He’s been letting other people take the hits while he gathers intel. And his name seems just a little too stupid to be for real…
Also, this fight gets a lot more interesting, story wise, if it’s not completely one-sided.
“Obviously Bombshell never played much Quake.”
Or Marathon before 3D was a thing. A quick down angle on the SPNKR-X17 SSM Launcher (Rocket) was usually a sure way to a quick kill in multi-player. Why use the full force of anti-armor penetration when you want an anti-personnel blast zone. Then again Bombshell may be assuming that tough heroes are “armored” instead damage absorbing.
For someone who poses so much, he is rattled awfully fast by comments. Cowl and skull do make you think he is overcompensating a bit. I rather suspect he is the double bluff and really has scary powers. The fact he has not been putting them out while they are getting creamed suggests they are last resort? Or has he been watching everyone to assess them and program his reflexes?
You know, I think this is DT’s first time out as For Whom The Death Tolls. Before now he never bothered with a costume like a lot of the others. He was saving it for the big entry. Now he’s suffering opening night jitters. And Anvil just stomped all over his big soliloquy.
…DT’s just too easy to entice into monologuing. He’s even more over-the-top than Syndrome.
YOUR NEMESIS AND….. Crap, he went flying…..
Seriously, I’m gonna be so upset if this guy doesn’t turn out to be super-amazing-awesome.
Agreed. But I’m willing to let him be a super-amazing-awesome loser. ;)
I second that. Such a rediculous costume and a headache inspiring name… even if the bad guys did not hire him for that, he MUST have some powers to proof that he is more than some chaff to throw at the heroes.
Though, on the other hand, he could also be a misplaced LARP-gamer with some overpowered hubris going on and he really isn’t more than a target. It would look pretty bad in the news if the heroes flattened a sophomoric plain-human guy. Obviously even Bomb Bimbo does not know of any of his powers aside his instant-groaning-inflicting name.
Ha ha! YES! It turns out that he’s some mental case who dresses up like that, and he just happened to be in the area!
My money’s on geek who’s going for “dark and edgy” but trying too hard. Many of us know that guy. Heck, many of us have probably BEEN that guy. I know I have. In unrelated news, I need to find more excuses to wear my cloak. I love it, but it gets way too heavy/hot over the course of a convention day.
Yeah … I’m hoping he has some trick up his sleeve. Hopefully one that while effective, is about as corny as he acts. That or so heavily a one trick pony that its mostly a useless ability. To avoid suffering collateral damage this whole time he’s either lucky or has some trick up his sleeve. That and the fact that several others actually listen to him (even if they think he’s a dork) says there is Something about him.
Considering how he swatted aside Concretia earlier, I think it’s safe to assume he’s got super strength and possibly also enhanced reflexes. Some form of armor is also quite likely, since Hex’s beams apparently have no effect on him.
That said I think the fedora guy would be a more interesting villain than this pretentious fop, despite the fact that we know even less about the former.
Five bucks says he gets hit once, rips his costume and his mommy who made it for him comes flying out of nowhere and was the real one protecting him the whole time with her super powers.
…. He then runs back to his basement lair at his mommy’s house and cries that he’s a horrible bad guy.
The more he says, the more his speaking style is reminding me of Deus. He has the right body build for D.T. and he would also need the mask to hide his his very well known face. It could be his way of testing out the features of the latest Machina battle tech suit (strength, armor, nifty cape).
And then there’s the evil laughter to consider: https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/808
I’d completely forgotten about Deus, but you might be right – he’s definitely got Deus’ chin… and demeanor… and holy fuck I think we’re about to get to see Deus fight.
I can’t believe I didn’t think about that! This is the kind of insane stunt that Deus would try and pull off (calling up all these misfits slash partial losers slash easily conned schmucks to go and attack the team). Of course his own ego wouldn’t let him get away with just watching from cameras. He’d have to be there up close and personal.
Isn’t Harem in cahoots with Deus? Or is she?
She is but her game seems to be just a game to her. https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/797
Really quite concerned that FWTDT has an instant-death power.
I suppose he might, but we needn’t worry about him using it on Anvil as she was in the scene like 5 pages into the comic before the flashback began. I’m imaging he’s just hard to damage and has super strength. Perhaps he’s also quite good with martial arts and things like pressure points, though would pressure points even work on Anvil?
For a name that bad he should seriously become Sydney’s toy.
Math demonstrated that certain pressure point work just fine on Anvil. She’s very ticklish.
He could also have absorbing powers. Absorbing all of Anvils powers would easily take her out.
Technically, anyone can have an instant death power. The only problem is who’s (their own or someone else’s) death is instant.
“Well I have a disinthegrathing pistol and buddy let me tell you! When it disthintegrathes, it disthintegrathes.”
*disintegrating pistol disintegrates*
“Huh. Well what do you know. It disinthegrathed.”
…Well then, I’ve got a Time Machine you might like to buy. Currently it’s cleverly disguised, being put to use as a clock hanging on my wall. No superhero has yet even conjectured its true purpose.
;)
oh, wow, i gotz one of those too! but mine’s got this time-travelling potato attached to it….and the potato is wearing a fez…
Look closer…Is it also wearing a bowtie?
Insta-Death? Nah. But he does have Some kind of ability to have been in the middle of the fray and avoided any friendly fire or the like. It’s possible that he’s a one trick pony, but if used well, even a one trick pony can be dangerous.
He was hit by Hex’s beams and slapped Concretia aside one-handed, so he’s got something going for him. He might be Anvil’s counterpart and absorb certain attacks. Hex’s beams didn’t deflect, they just created a wave pattern on his outfit.
The Villain Tally V1.8!
Reminders:
+ My original post of this list and its subsequent commentary can be found HERE
+ Things that I specifically want verified will be marked with this symbol: *(?)*
Changelog for V1.8:
+ Active/Defeated status and “last seen” page # as usual
+ Added “Inactive status unconfirmed” to Concretia and Hex
+ Haven’t changed or added much in the way of names because I feel like we’re going to find out several soon as the fight is down to a handful of remaining aggressors and there may be some sort of line-up page/most wanted thing coming after the fight (if there isn’t, there should be) so I’m just going to rest on what we have.
Active (In rough order of 1st appearance)
1) Male in blue suit and fedora with white eye makeup/tattoos [1st appearance: #186]
——Suggested names: ”Fedorka” and ”Blue Suit”
——Last seen chatting with Halo in #236
2) Green haired male [1st appearance: #204]
——May be Forshadowed Villain #6 *(?)*
——Last seen guiding the bolo in #240
3) ”Opal” [1st appearance: #204]
——May be Forshadowed Villain #7 *(?)*
——Last seen in #239
4) “For Whom the Death Tolls”/”Death Toll” [1st appearance: #209]
——Last seen in #241
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Defeated (In rough order of presumed defeat)
1) Blue-haired Meat-head [1st appearance: #200]
——Beaten by Anvil in #202
2) Crystal-handed (Apparently naked) Meat-head [1st appearance: #202]
——Backhanded by Maxima in #203
3) “Shadow Boxer” [1st appearance: #205]
——Beaten by Halo in #206
4) Caucasian male wearing black shirt [1st appearance: #206]
——Choked out by Anvil in #206
——may be Defeated Villain 19 below pictured face down in #224 *(?)*
5) Spiky hair with yellow tuft Male [1st appearance: #207]
——Bean-bagged in the face by Shawn in #207
6) “Concretia” [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Math in #209 and shot by Peggy in #216
——Inactive status unconfirmed
7) Female in red costume with gymnastics ribbon [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Achilles (launched by Maxima) in #209
8) Caucasian Male in white tank top [1st appearance: #210]
——Beaten by Math in #210
9) Black Male with fire knuckles [1st appearance: #210]
——Beaten by Math induced friendly fire in #210
10) Laser beam eyes [1st appearance: #204]
——Ameteur dentistry by Math in #211
11) “Lee Press-on Claws” [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Halo in #212
12) Anvil’s 3rd bad guy [1st appearance: #212]
——Only torso with a light blue shirt, and belt in Anvil’s grip shown
——Beaten by Anvil sometime between #206 and #212
13) Male in navy blue shirt with Mohawk [1st appearance: #214]
——Pictured defeated on the restaurant floor in #214
14) Shirtless sweaty Black Male with braided hair [1st appearance: #219]
——Beaten by Heatwave in #219
15) Male in Blue vest [1st appearance: #219]
——Head-gripped by stalwart in #219
16) “Heavenly Sword” [1st appearance: #203]
——Defeated by Dabbler in #223
17) “Silent Shadow/Mach the Knife” [1st appearance: #219]
——Incapacitated by Dabbler in #220 Drugged by Harem in #224
18) Partial shirtless torso and arm wearing black pants [1st appearance: #224] *(?)*
——Pictured defeated face down in the grass in the very bottom corner of #224
19) Caucasian Male wearing black shirt and camo pants[1st appearance: #224] *(?)*
——Pictured defeated face down in the grass in #224
——May be Defeated Villain 4 listed above *(?)*
20) Blond Male in red pants, yellow shirt, with hat [1st appearance: #226]
——Beaten by Mr. Amorphous in #226
21) Laser-burnt male in green Camo skinny jeans [1st appearance: #227]
——Hit by Friendly fire from Hex in #227
22) “Gauntlette” [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Jiggawatt in #228
23) Caucasian Male with dark pony tail and green cloud legs [1st appearance: #228]
——Beaten by Jiggawatt in #228
24) Blond Male in overalls with orange energy lines [1st appearance: #228]
——Beaten by Jiggawatt in #228
25) Pair of legs wearing red pants with black greeves [1st appearance: #228]
——Thrown into the asphalt by Maxima in #228
26) Caucasian male with yellow shirt, green pants and fire hair [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Halo in #229
27) “Hex” [1st appearance: #202]
——Last seen escaping through the bushes in #229
——Inactive status unconfirmed
28) “Boilerplate” [1st appearance: #226]
——Beaten by Maxima in #230
29) “Breakpoint” [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Hiro in #231
30) Giant wearing Orange shorts and glasses [1st appearance: #204]
——Suggested name: “Budget Hulk”
——Beaten by Hiro in #231
31) Blue crystal swordsman [1st appearance: #231]
——Suggested name: ”Blue Ice”
——Beaten by Hiro in #231
32) “Glowbug” [1st appearance: #219]
——Defeated by Dabbler in #235
33) Hairdresser with Zebra Mohawk [1st appearance: #229]
——Suggested name: “The Barberian”
——Surrendered to Dabbler in #235
34) “Jabberwokky” [1st appearance: #213]
——Squished by Active Villain #3 in #238
35) “Atomic Bombshell” [1st appearance: #202]
——Defeated by Anvil in #241
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Foreshadowed (In rough order of 1st appearance)
1) Deus [1st appearance: #130]
2) Vale [1st appearance: #130]
3) Demon Lord (“Screwball”) [1st appearance: #176]
4) Panel 2 [1st appearance: #186]
5) Panel 4 [1st appearance: #186]
6) Panel 5 Foreground [1st appearance: #186]
——This may actually be Active Villain #3 *(?)*
7) Panel 5 Background [1st appearance: #186]
——This may actually be Active Villain #4 *(?)*
8) Panel 6 [1st appearance: #186]
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Honorable Mentions (In rough order of 1st appearance)
1) That Flying rescue guy! [1st appearance: #7]
——Not a villain, but his TV show was canned before filming.
2) ”The Filmer” [1st appearance: #8]
——Technically a figment of Halo’s imagination, but I desperately want him to be real!
3) Lightning fist bar fight guy [1st appearance: #185]
——Suggested name: “Electric Fohawk”
4) Black construction worker [1st appearance: #185]
——Gave up his life of crime
5) “Nyah Nyah Can’t Hit Me Man.” [1st appearance: #193]
——”He doesn’t actually commit any crimes though, he just shows up during battles and annoys everyone. And I’m this (–] [–) close to making him canon.” –DaveB
patch note: Jabberwocky’s defeat should read by villain #2, forgot to change it after moving Bombshell to the defeated list.
Oh and thanks for keeping track, if I have read one comment thread throughout the fight it is your tally. Very helpful.
thank you very much, it’s nice to feel appreciated :)
Looking back at #186 – could Opal plus green haired dude be the ones in the center panel, panel 5?
Panel 1 (‘Challenge accepted’) is obvious. This guy appears to be there only to observe Maxima, his foe/sparring partner of choice. I would not necessarily count him amongst the villains – he appears to be unconnected to the rest.
yeah I put that in their entries under foreshadowed villains. it was pointed out to me several weeks ago by other commenters. also thank you for pointing out that I forgot to update the numbers for the foreshadowed villains as well. I’ll fix that with the next update.
I am thinking this would be easier to maintain over on the reddit pages.
i dont have a reddit account, and i’m lazy about new accounts.
It’d be really funny if he also absorbs damage and sends it back so these two would just feed off each other to absurd levels. You’ve all heard the quandary “What happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object,” well what about “What happens when two unstoppable forces collide?” I’m no scientist, but wouldn’t that just cause a giant rapid release of energy, aka a massive explosion?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eKc5kgPVrA
Video by minute physics explaining that question.
Wow… just wow. That was an amazingly well explained video. The whole time I was thinking “This is cool but doesn’t answer my question about two unstoppable forces colliding.” but then it snuck the answer in at the end.
Thanks for the link. I was actually so impressed that I favorite’d the video to show to some friends I think would enjoy how well put together it was. And that says a lot because though i browse youtube a lot, I rarely favorite anything.
yes most of his other videos are also quite excellent. He also has another channel called Minute Earth which is quite good. I can also recommend several other youtube educational channels as well:
– Veritasium (physics)
– Scishow (Biology, ecology, physics) and it’s spinoff channel Scishow space (astrophysics atronomy)
– Crash Course (science, history, literature)
– Vsauce (enormous variety of subject matter)
– CGP Grey (enormous variety of subject matter)
– Smarter every day (physics, engineering, biology)
– The brain scoop (anatomy, biology, museum science, variety)
would you like links?
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That last one you listed (The Brain Scoop) sounds like an ice cream parlor that caters to zombies.
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well the host emily, does prepare animal specimens so there is gore and brains… so… you know what go watch it it’s all really good.
Several of those are channels the Vlogbrothers had at least a hand in starting. Hank and John Green are amazing, one is a best selling author and movie maker the other writes and performs songs with several albums out not to mention their charitable work. They also started Vid-Con which is now HUGH!
yeah im a nerdfighter, but the vlogbrothers channel isn’t specifically science so i didn’t mention it. sorry for the poor punctuation. i hurt my left hand so the shift key is a tad hard to reach.
I was just adding some information not accusing you of leaving things out although I would add Animal Wonders to the list. for anyone who likes animals. My favorite was Kemosabe the porcupine.
oh yeah i forgot about her… There’s also Sexplanations with Dr. Doe.
No need. The channel names are good enough. I recorded them and when I get the scientific itch, I’ll explore them. Thanks again.
But… He’s overlooking something he said himself. You now have two (at least near-) infinite masses not only in extremely close proximity but exerting the unstoppable motion in opposition to each other. Unless one or both is in fact intangible, the effects of the energies of acceleration opposing each other are going to have some effect. And if one is intangible, it’s likely immovable because nothing can successfully interact with it. And we’re still ignoring the effects of such huge masses on their surroundings…
So, YES, there’s going to be a serious energy release — probably as heat initially.
Are you familiar with the old physics joke? A farmer is having trouble with his chickens not laying any eggs, so he hires a veterinarian who can’t figure out what to do, then he goes to geneticist who doesnt know what to do either, then he goes to the physicist and the physicist goes away for a week and comes back and tells him “I’ve figured out a solution to your problem, but it only works for spherical chickens in a vacuum”
I find this joke hilarious and I’m about to ruin it by explaining it (highlight if you don’t get the joke)Physicists tend to ignore certain variables and uncertainty in their equations that would mess with their calculations. For example air resistance (thus the vacuum) and simplify shapes that do not easily conform to a simple mass/volume conversion (thus the chicken shape into a sphere). So the reason I gave you this joke was a long winded way of saying “Of course he simplified it. He acknowledges removing variables such as gravity and the details of how such an object might exist.
Since somebody here likes playing with their spheres (there’s a pun in there somewhere, if you’re willing to risk it), here’s another scientific question to answer that would actually depend upon zero (or micro) gravity conditions to make it work:
Somewhere in the vacuum of space, not near enough to any large mass that might have any significant gravity effects, blow up a large, hollow glass sphere with no seams or joints anywhere. Silver the outside surface so that it acts like a mirror on the inside. If there’s a guy inside, floating (you probably had to blow the glass sphere around him to make it seamless) so that his eyes are exactly dead-center in the hollow interior volume of the sphere. He turns on a flashlight. Exactly, what would he see?
Been a long time since I read the Callahan’s books by Spider Robinson. :-)
I’m thinking he wouldn’t see anything. Who could, with that flashlight right in his eyes?
vsauce video that would answer that question:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRP82omMX0g
if you don’t want to watch the whole video though, the short answer is he would just see his own face across his entire field of vision.
The shorter answer, given the conditions as stated: The fellow would not see anything because he would be dead. Decompression.
does Anvil play Mortal Kombat?
I note that Anvil is fully charged at the moment – she didn’t need to use absorbed energy for that throw, and I’m fairly sure Bombshell hit her far harder than that guy at the start of the fight.
She’s currently waiting to see how much she can unleash on this guy – because at the moment her punch probably rival’s Maxima’s.
Nobody knows what Anvil’s max Charge is (Except for Dave). For all we know Anvil fully Charged could send Maxima at Overclocked Armor flying.
Ok, not ‘fully charged’, but ‘charged up’ – she’s got at least that blast’s worth of energy she can use. (And quite possibly more.)
Except for the fact that Anvil isn’t the one member of the team who fought Maxima to a standstill. That was Dabbler. This tends to indicate that in a straight up slug fest that Maxima still wins. How, I don’t know, since it appears that Anvil can simply absorb any punch or energy blast Maxima throws at her.
Perhaps it isn’t a straight up slug fest, and Maxima just flies up and is unreachable by Anvil. But that would tend to be the definition of a standstill, wouldn’t it?
Whatever the answer, I’d like to hear the story at some point.
simple anvil has a max amount of energy she can absorb and that amount is below Maxima’s max output
Anvil is great against straightforward head-on attacks, but if you know her powers high-speed judo (or some other ‘soft’ martial art) would be able to handle her without much trouble. Sure in a boxing match she might be able to face Maxima head on, but Maxima’s strong and fast, (among others). Evade and bind, not withstand and pound.
Yes, wrestling with her would be effective. Just don’t throw her.
Also being a speedster would be effective as she isn’t that fast. That would be a one way fight.
As has been pointed out about indirect attacks using shrapnel would be effective as dave said.
Choke hold.
I agree. Her punch right now could be considered “lethal force” by most people.
she deadlifts 8 tons uncharged, I think that’s a safe bet =P
Something about “I don’t fall well!” make me giggle.
That statement kind of cements her into “glass cannon” category, don’t it? Ah yes, the glass cannons… where their allergies to pain causes them to break out in bruises!
I’m much the same.
:)
I’m always telling people that my black-&-blue “rashes” are an allergic reaction to either “rapid deceleration” or “blunt force trauma” (take your pick).
That and the fact she can’t figure out what Harem stuck her with despite the many clues (“insomniac”, “trouble sleeping”, and dozens of other fellow baddies that have gone night-night) that should make it obvious.
Oh, and if you don’t fall well, you should have thought of that before attacking someone who says their rogue’s gallery will end up incarcerated, in traction, or interred.
She shot her with the same sedative she hit Mach the Knife with. Sounds like she landed wrong and injured her wrist so she should appreciate the nap even more.
No, she put a wrist mounted sedative injecting computer on her.
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1380
If you look closely her arms are in the wrong position for that and Harem’s Punk body is holding something to the back of AB’s neck. It also makes a pressure gun sound not unlike the hypospray she used on the back of the speedsters neck and did not make the clack sound the tracker/monitor/tazer/medicator bracelet did.
Harem seems to start with a hypo. Then once the subject relaxes adds the wristband to keep them in la-la land and monitor their condition.
Not a bad tactic, really. Even with only one body out (full strength) she’s only a two point super strength rating
Actually DaveB said she was on par with Anvil, who’s 3 star
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1302
Presumably a non charged up Anvil offcourse
Or incinerated! (Thanks to Halo)
Or inebriated! (Wearing a drug bracelet)
Or Incontinent!
But if i had added “incinerated”, someone would have come along to “correct” me even if I was just being (or trying to be) humorous.
Neat I am actually really digging this guy, I hope hes as impressive as his name is stupid.
I’m rooting for him to be “Nyaa Nyaa can’t hit me” guy.
Dave was sorely tempted to make him canon. This may be his big opening act with a name change later. My immediate thought on that is, ARRGGHH NOOOO!!!
Part of me want’s that, part of me wants him to be as lame as his name, and part of me wants sydney to do cruel and unusual things to him either way.
I am really hopping that FWTDT actually manages to do something impressive and takes anvil out. otherwise him even being there is going to be a real waist. Not like there haven’t been some of those in this comic already….
And you can’t just throw someone in jail for having bad judgment in names. Wouldn’t hold up in court.
They can still arrest him though.
And then, they have time to figure out how he’s connected to the rest, and pin that on him in court
He challenged Anvil to a fight with a nicely implied death threat. Resisting and menacing. Even if his power level is “oh come on” low versus Anvil, he just bought a ride in a paddy wagon.
I don’t understand why people want the bad guys to win fights.
Personally, I want to read a good story, and seeing Anvil get trounced by Death Toll at this point wouldn’t be enjoyable. Now that it has been made clear that he’s a pretentious jerk, I don’t want to see him win a fight.
I think it’s mostly a reaction of a combination of the “rock/paper/scissors” game being used to make what are probably actually fairly powerful baddies seem like overmatched mooks coupled with Anvil being seen steamrolling everything that’s been thrown at her so far without breaking a sweat.
Although personally I’d like to see Death Toll be revealed as a Gold Elf level threat (One that actually brings Max’s OOC stated “limitations” into play as opposed to her current habit of always having her points spent exactly where she needs them to be at any given moment.) breaking the ass kicking with a gag and a snarky remark from Halo would be good too.
And what a surprise, Harem just ports in and doped poor Atomic Bombshell up. Never mind she’s using potentially lethal drugs in doing it. At least if she did die she is wearing a nice Bommba shirt.
But really they shouldn’t be too judgmental. As long and bad as FWTDT name is at least it isn’t as bad as Harem, or Anvil.
Ladies and gentlemen, the Iron Troll. His Monday show is the same as his Thursday show.
Eh, just ignore him, he’ll go away.
Seriously
Things wrong with FWTDT: long, unwieldy, pretentious, doesn’t make sense
But we forgive Dave because that’s the joke.
Things wrong with Harem or Anvil: maybe a little cliche
But we’ve all seen much worse in that respect.
I take it that Iron Rogue has a better idea of how to detain super-powered prisoners that he’d like to share with us? Perhaps Maxima should ask the bad guys to pretty please stop attacking ARCHON long enough that they can make sure they are properly and safely administering the correct dosages and check the attackers for any possible allergic reactions.
I think we get one of those a month or so. Someone who comes into read a superhero comic and demands realism or openly mocks the genre.
We all may poke good clean fun at it in various posts, but we don’t actively mock it.
I don’t know of a more realistic option ARCHON has if the bad persons are determined to go down fighting. For example, Dabbler made it clear to HS that she was out of league and nearly got killed for it.
He’s sort of right about the sedative. There is no drug in the real world that could be used like that safely. Realistically, Arc-swat might just kill someone with that stuff.
There is a pretty easy way out of that problem though. Just have someone mention that the drug being used is something that Dabbler whipped up. Sufficiently Advanced Technology to the rescue!
What I want to know is how it happened that they had enough sedative and wrist monitors handy to deal with that many bad guys. They could never in their wildest nightmares have expected to have to arrest 30 supers at once.
Police routinely use tasers which have a slight chance of killing people but far less than shooting them. Drugs are also used on violent mental patients with some risk but better than clubbing them unconscious. It all a matter of scale.
The drugs that are capable of knocking someone out and keeping them that way are the kind of stuff that anesthesiologists use for surgery. That stuff is -dangerous-, which is why there is such a thing as an anesthesiologist in the first place.
The kind of stuff used on violent mental patients isn’t anywhere near as dangerous, and even at that, it is used with caution, and with professional medical supervision.
There is also a big difference between what the police are allowed to use on someone who is resisting arrest and what they can use on someone who has already been arrested or has been knocked unconscious. In the real world the police are not allowed to sedate their prisoners.
As far as I know, they aren’t even allowed to use knock out drugs on people who are resisting arrest, as that stuff is much more likely to kill someone than a Tazer is.
First this is not the real world it is Dave’s world.
Second it is still a better choice than shooting them as the news proves.
No one questioned whether the drugs were dangerous, but whether there was a better solution to the problem of subduing a villain who has shown himself or herself willing to kill Archon agents, yet refuses to surrender*.
*Bringing up the villain who did surrender would be irrelevant to the discussion unless I’m wrong about Archon leaving him in an undrugged state.
I have no problem with Harem using a drug injector gun as a weapon in super fights. I have no real problem with Arc-swat using potentially lethal drugs to -subdue- supervillains.
My problem is when they use them to -restrain- supers. They use them on people who have already been downed. Knock-out drugs is what Arc-swat is using in place of handcuffs.
Using a Tazer on someone who is resisting arrest is one thing. Using it on someone you have already arrested because keeping them stunned makes it easier to make sure they don’t escape is a whole different matter.
Exactly how you go about restraining or incarcerating superhumans is a major problem that most comic book universes either never really address, or they hand-wave aside by using “power nullifiers”.
What they need is a super that can put a mental “whammy” on people. Either bliss them out (A heroine named “Mary Jane”, anyone?); give them uncontrollable giggles (curled up on the ground, tears streaming, laughing); give them cramping, debilitating pain; or loss of skeletal muscle control (loss of ALL muscle control would be messy, smelly, and possibly life-threatening, because then the heart wouldn’t beat and lungs wouldn’t inflate/deflate). Then they wouldn’t need to worry about drugs and possible overdoses or bad/allergic reactions.
Harem made a shopping run back to the armory to pick up supplies. This was after they got a rough idea of the number of people outside the building. https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1295
The quartermaster there reminds me of a certain actor. When ‘Pink’ Harem made her supply run she probably didn’t have time to fill out all the paperwork. After the battle when she brings it back he will probably ask her “You checked out some 44 Magnums. Did you take 6 or only 5? I forgot myself in the excitement. Do you remember? Well do ya, Pink?”
Probably only 5, but is she feeling lucky?
I know Harem made a shopping run. What I question is them having 30 or more of those wrist gizmos in storage. Why would they have so many of them? I can see them having 10 or 12 of them, but not 30. Supers are supposed to be -rare-, remember?
Imagine the person looking at the budget request. “You want -how- many of these things? Do you have any idea how much they cost per unit?”
Sure supers are rare, but the estimate from https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/955 is that there are between 400 and 600 in the USA.
As long as the units aren’t 10-20 million each it would make sense to have 50+ available. If each of them costs in the hundreds they might even have several hundred of them.
You’re missing part of the equation.
On the page after the one you linked, page #146, they point out that supers are no more likely to become criminals than non-supers. So out of approximately 500 supers, how many do you suppose would become violent criminals?
Judging by the FBI crime statistics in the real world, it’s going to be less than one in a hundred.
Even if as many as one super in ten decided to become a supervillain, all they would need is 50 sets of cuffs total, and they would only need that many if every single supervillain in the US needed to be arrested at the same time.
It makes sense to have ten or twelve sets of cuffs on hand. Having more than that seems pretty unlikely given how few Archon is expecting to need.
Some budget items you just have to approve or everyone can just go home.
“Do you have any idea how much they cost per unit?”
Usually significantly less if you’re making and buying them in large number. You may only expect to use ten per year, but it’s probably still cheaper to buy ten years’ worth or more in one order and keep the rest on the shelf. With the advantage of having a stock in case of crimewave or Supervillain Britzkrieg. (Assuming no shelf-life issues – either the sleepy-juice doesn’t degrade over time, or the restrainer can be drained and reloaded with fresh.)
The simple answer was that Harem ported back to base and collected all the cuffs and injectors the same time she vorped in with Peggy’s Barrett.
Iron Rogue has better ideas about everything! Have you seen HIS webcomic? It’s amazing!
Far be it from me to defend Iron Rogue, but I do feel the need to speak out against the “critics must have a better idea/product ready” fallacy.
You don’t have to have a solution to point out a problem.
The one exception to this that I’ve seen: If you’re talking about what people in a situation would do. You can’t declare a set of decisions unrealistic without explaining why, and no explanation of why a set of decisions is unrealistic ends up ignoring “what they’d do instead and why.” But most-times when you’re writing “what people in a situation would do” it’s all speculative anyway.
Again, to be clear: I don’t agree with Iron Rogue. I consider the “potentially lethal drugs” bit oversensitive; In a world where we can hand-wave the existence of a power like Concretia/Anima’s into possibility you really need to permit similar hand-waving for medicine, and for exactly the same reason: Because permitting it lets the story move along, whereas requiring medical exactitude doesn’t. As Dune would put it, “The Plot Must Flow.”
As for Dune tech, consider the stillsuit. We have people standing around in broiling temperatures under a blazing sun wrapped in black full body airtight outfits undergoing rigorous physical activities. Realistically, they should be dead in under 30 minutes from heat exhaustion. Yet, they are not. Why? SCIENCE!
And to get REALLY picky, Arrakis has no oceans and almost no surface vegetation. Where does the oxygen in the atmosphere come from?
From the sand trouts – the larval form of the sand worms – which are also responsible for sequestering vast quantities of water in underground reservoirs.
You really should read the book. The movie is kind of terrible.
Distillation Suits, or Stillsuits, are high tech items, so much so that we can’t yet make them in the real world. They are extrapolations of some of the technology that goes into space suits now. They provide a sort of air-conditioning, and can be worn quite comfortably even in high heat conditions pretty much indefinitely. In the book, they weren’t black, they were desert camo, allowing the Fremen to blend with the sand and avoid detection.
The book actually does go into the ecology of Arrakis a bit, enough to explain why a world with so little surface water has such an Earth-like atmosphere. It mostly comes from the sand worms.
I liked the movie, but having read the book(s) I couldn’t help but tic off the huge number of places where the plot diverged. Some for apparently no reason at all, such as changing the “weirding way”, an advanced martial art which incorporated all of the superhuman Bene Gesserit genetic advances and training, into what was essentially a phasor. Way to ruin it for no reason, Lynch. I mean, they even kept the part where Stilgar, who as the leader of his Sietch is only in that place as long as he wins challenges to his authority (which are fights to the death) is mastered by Jessica effortlessly, and he even says “You have the weirding way.” And then he makes peace with her so that she can train the Fremen in this combat style. And then it is never mentioned again. But then they also had weirding modules/ ray guns for no good reason.
The best is right at the end. When Paul uses his new powers to fold space to Caladan and make it rain. The ecology of the sandworms makes it clear that this would kill all the sandworms, which would naturally destroy all spice production. Thus destroying the only leverage Paul had to keep himself in power. But if you only watch the movie and haven’t read the books, it’s just a cool scene which further demonstrates (i.e. “Mua’Dib no longer needs the weirding module!”, which I found hilarious since the entire movie never needed the weirding modules) Paul’s ascension to nigh-godhood.
I considered spoilering some of this, but the novel was written in 1965 and the movie was made in 1984. The statute of limitations on spoiling it has long expired.
The “critics must have a better idea/product ready” fallacy, isn’t a fallacy, it’s an indicator of the expertise and intelligence of the critic. Improving the Signal-to-Noise Ratio by shutting down ill conceived, uninformed, opinion based “critique” demonstrably improves the quality of the discourse for everyone.
The Expertise & Intelligence of a Critic? Or perhaps the Inferiority Complex and Ego of the Critic? THAT is exactly why many consider the idea that the Critic is Always Right to be a broken thought pattern. Almost all the posts IR has done involves pointing out “Real World” Logic in a genre that Regularly and Habitually ignores “Real World” Logic.
You claim that IR’s comic is so amazing. But you provided no details on why it’s better. Also, you provided no link so that the posters here can go there and make our own judgement call.
I could be reading too much into it, but I saw that comment about IR’s comic to be a bit of sarcastic mockery, basically telling IR that if he didn’t like what he saw here, he should produce a better product himself.
no it almost always used as way to shout down legitimate criticism.
Karashi, I wasn’t slamming your idea about how a critic can point out the problem that others can’t see, even if he doesn’t see a solution. A person can often see a situation and comment on it without having the solution to it.
I was referring to the idea that “The Critic is Always Right” is an inherently broken one.
The Critic is NOT Always Right as there are times when their perception of a situation is flawed. They may lack the knowledge that those present have, they may not be aware that its already being handled, or he may be making a issue out of something that is of no importance. They may also think that the priorities of those involved is skewed in a bad direction, which may or may not be an accurate assessment.
In short, The Critic is Not Always Right. But, that doesn’t mean their commentary on a situation is of no merit whatsoever. Sometimes a fresh outlook on things, or looking in from the outside provides something useful to the situation at hand. Sometimes the Critic picks up the Idiot Ball and asks the one question nobody else dares to ask.
In short, the comments made by the Critic IS Important, but they are Not Always Right.
In this case, however, and given the information we have on the setting, Iron Rogue has a perfectly valid criticism. I made the same point myself the first time the coma-bracelet was used on Quick Blade.
The point has been made that we should hand-wave away the superior technology needed to mass produce these coma-bracelets. We should not. The soldiers are still toting M16s. Bank robbers (even if it is staged) use pistols and automatic rifles. Dabbler has said that there is no way in hell that she is allowing any of her advanced technology to get into the hands of a race of irresponsible primitives such as humans. In other words, aside from the presence of superheroes, this is our Earth, with our history and technology. Nothing we have seen so far is outside of our present technology, except for these medical wonders which can automatically monitor and administer anesthesia to persons with superhuman physiologies, all in a package the size of a couple of large wrist watches.
ARC-SWAT is using some special gear, to be sure. But no other item is anywhere as outrageous as these coma-cuffs. HUD glasses? Just a bit better than Google Glass. Some cars use HUDs these days. Radio earsets? Bluetooth and cellular. The iPad like device Maxima gave to Halo? iPad or a host of other PDA-like devices.
Sometimes the critic is right, even if some people who are fans of the work in question allow their judgement to be clouded by their personal opinions. “I like it so it can’t possibly have flaws” and “Anyone who criticizes something I like is criticizing me” are an incredibly egotistical position to take.
I wish there was an edit feature…
To do things right I need to do the breakdown on the coma-cuff. The technology needed to accomplish it is a hospital room containing at least a heart rate monitor, a blood pressure monitor, an IV drip, and an attendant anesthesiologist.
And that’s just for the cases where everything goes as planned. In the case where the patient does not react well to the anesthesia (or to their injuries, which any police force must expect that some of the people they arrest may have), the hospital has a whole host of “oh, crap” machinery and personnel that they can draw upon. All of which come with added space requirements, of course.
And that’s just for humans with the expected physiology. The specialized gear needed to accurately monitor the heart rate and blood pressure for someone with armor-like skin or other superhuman physiology changes can only be speculated about. A heart rate monitor may not be designed to read above 300 beats per minute, for example, and yet our Speedster friend may well have such an accelerated heart rate as his norm.
No amount of money can conceivably condense the amount of space needed for these machines into a wrist-cuff. And while a program could conceivably be written to replace the need for the trained anesthesiologist (again, for human-only physiologies), that would require a computer, so at least as much space as a cell phone assuming a perfect world where such a program is simple enough to run on such a compact device.
Unfortunately, without a better idea, we are at an impasse. The comic needs ARC to have some way to restrain these supers that have preternatural speed/strength, unnatural abilities, etc. The options quickly boil down to “magical super-tech” or “kill them where they stand”
So we end up back at the beginning of this argument – provide a better idea, or accept the current idea, flaws and all.
Mostly the problem as I see it is the programing and control circuitry, Think about it, we already have wrist wearable BP/heartrate monitors. most of the other item exist in one form or other. A reasonably sophisticated SOC and a genius programmer with the right parameters could have something that could be feasible so long as you have a field medic to catch potential problems.
While you might have a point in some cases, I don’t think this is one of them. For example, someone could criticize the special effects in a movie without knowing how to make better FX. However, he is making a moral judgment about their action pertaining something (namely, subduing the villains) that, if they don’t do, might wind up costing someone his or her life. Most of them are clearly not going to surrender and are willing to continue trying to kill Archon agents until one or more of the agents are dead or at least severely injured. At this point, it’s either kill (or at least subdue) or be killed. Not only have demonstrating that the villains are playing out of their league and physical restraints failed to work, but they instead led to further endangerment of Archon agents. At this point, Maxima has run out of good, safe options. To criticize her for choosing the least bad, least unsafe option is, IMHO, male bovine excrement (with the “male” modifying the “bovine” rather than the “bovine excrement”*).
*just thought I’d clear that up beforehand to help avoid any potential misunderstanding.
At least Death Bell’s handle doesn’t give away what his powers are. We know he’s got muscle and a protective field like Max’s. If he’s got anything else going for him we will find out when Anvil tags him.
Could be more of a deflection ability or some form of displacement. Or entirely possible, he’s good with illusions and isn’t where everyone thinks he is. Or maybe he IS the illusion being created by someone else present. Kind of hard to hurt an illusion after all.
We’ll find out soon enough I imagine.
Forgot to comment on the muscle. That might just be natural muscle he’s rocking there as well. IE bodybuilder. But again, I’m sure we’ll find out soon enough.
If Math could toss Concretia then another well-trained fighter could have the same skill. The deflection/displacement may all be in the costume or a hidden gimmick. Dave is just having way too much fun dancing this guy in front of us.
He could potentially even be a guy who is completely normal … outside the costume. In short, the costume is a “muscle suit” complete with a heads up display in that skull mask of his. Suit wouldn’t have to be too fancy for typical stuff, low key energy field, enhancement of mobility as well as raw physical strength. The idea of ‘super-tech’ that’s more than just the tech that Dabbler uses being around was kind of implied with Hex and her Buddy Busters.
That is actually an interesting idea. So many of the attackers are just naturally powerful it slips everyone’s mind that High Tech or High Magic might be involved. Hex is the techno so maybe Death Toll is spell-based. Each costume items has a spell attached; Gloves Of Strength, Shield Cloak, Mask Of Smart-Mouthing…
Sadly no vehicles were harmed in the making of this comic :)
Kevlar bra is now my new Favorite piece of armor.
Makes way more sense than chainmail bikini. We’re movin’ up in the world! Next up: nanomesh one-piece.
With a cleavage window.
I thought Harem taking care of Atomic Boobs in the background worked fine. Could be said to be in the style of Airplane where there was often a background sight gag.
So how do you incarcerate someone like Atomic Boobs? Keep her drugged up enough that she can never blow up the prison and mundane guards? All the time?
Indeed. You shouldn’t try to do too much conversationally in the background but little things like that here and there are fine.
Incarcerate her in a small room she can’t damage without self maiming would be my first suggestion.
The second version would be to use an explosive room. Any explosion will be a huge explosion.
Indeed.
Just because you can create an effect does not mean you can survive that effect.
Armoring the walls with ablative would work too (if it’s thick enough).
Give her a little demo first and say: “most of the blast is going to stay in the cell with you”.
But if she’s immune to blast effects, you’re going to need a power absorber…
I dunno. She seems comparatively easy to incarcerate. Keep her indoors, so that using her powers always carries a risk of crushing herself, and make it clear that hurting anyone during an escape attempt means death penalty.
Now, Anima: SHE’s hard to incarcerate.
I’d picture a “Magneto”-style cage, styled to her particular power.
She lacks the powers needed to survive a long drop, so suspend her cage above a 10-story fall, with 4 corner-chains attached to the shaft’s ceiling. The chains are long enough to sway if-&-only-if she makes a determined effort. Both latrine & shower are separately retractable (& appear only as needed), from openings too small for her to escape thru. A retractable bridge-link completes the picture.
OPTIONAL:
– The cage’s floor can be transparent, as a reminder.
– Does she suffer from vertigo? Add/remove a rug to reward/punish her behavior.
– Transparent walls-&-ceiling offer little benefit, unless you want to make sure that they will also shatter if/when the cage is broken.
I can’t think of a better idea other than a straight jacket and 24 hour guard, and a heat sensitive taser attached to her wrists and ankles in case she can generate those energy bombs from her feet. All of your suggestions (which the exception of fortified walls) carry with them inherent legal ramifications. You can’t keep prisoners in dangerous or unhealthy situations for long periods, but you can use electric shocks to maintain order and ankle bracelets/wrist bands
For nearly all superpowers: Put large water pipes (or just channels) between the cells, surrounding as completely as possible. Keep water flowing and pressurized in the pipes. (Or at the bottom of a large gravity gradient, with a large tank at the top.) Let the prisoner know that it’s there, and will remain there. Ideally, you tie the door into the network as well when it’s closed.
If they break the walls, the cell floods with pressurized water. They have to swim out – through a turbulent, high-volume flow – before they drown. (Or are crushed by the water itself.) If you want to be nice, have guards around trained in underwater rescue; you’ll probably be able to get to them and revive them after an escape attempt. It might also make sense to drug the water.
It won’t hold teleporters, people with major shielding (like Sydney) and an attack, or water-breathers, and flight-capable supers may or may not be able to use that to help, but in general it’s a good multipurpose containment, and should hold 70-90% of supers. The rest you can deal with on a case-by-case basis.
This containment procedure sounds like something they could borrow from the good folks over at the SCP Foundation.
I’m going to take that as a compliment. They handle a lot of seriously weird and dangerous stuff over there.
Exactly, which would make presumably make them right at home with most of this cast! It would be interesting to see how they would handle the supers from this universe.
Do what a super team did in a game I was in. Put the villain in a cell whose walls are as flimsy as the Apollo Lunar Module’s were. (Thin as a sheet of paper and made of metallic foil.) and put the cell on the moon (with appropriate life support). Then forget about them as long as they don’t have the ability to survive in space.
Great page. Love Anvil.
Actually Rock Hard (from the Iron Violet webcomic) has a worse codename. At least the skull-masked one didn’t name himself after a synonym for an erection.
Personally, I’m getting more and more convinced that Death Toll is a red harring, and he’ll go out in a hillarious faillure next page
Maybe he is the Achilles of thier group? Really, really invulnerable but no offensive powers at all?
We see next time, same Anvil time, same Anvil Channel.
Ok … Anvil has just entered awesome category.
She’s been in front line combat, while wearing glasses, ones that haven’t cracked, shattered, or been lost during the fight. Yes, the nerdy types wear glasses the whole fight as well, but they’re not up there punching you in the gut either. Usually. Unless you’re Ironman, in which case who needs glasses, your suit takes care of that for you.
Umm, those are the combat HUD’s distributed early in the fight. They’d better be nigh-indestructible if they’re intended for super combats.
Halo, what does the combat hud say about her power level?
Halo: Oh come on! That is not even a number, well, not one you can count to anyway.
Is it over 8999?
also they have been damaged, they lost a lens early on.
Halo must feel so justified with calling FWTDTs a dork right now!
I don’t care if he can one-punch Superman. He is hauling major dorkage around with him.
Agreed
It’s a phrasic portmanteau damn it!
Well there ARE worse names out there… “Lord Overshoulder Boulderholder” for example…
Elfguy! Where did you see that name? If its a comic online I MUST go read it! If only for the groans.
I heard it on a late night radio show…the host was making fun of villains with preposterously pompous names, and that was one of the ones he made up.
Shouldn’t that be “Lady” OSBH? Or was it just that late at night that the DJ’s coffee had taken control of things?
The joke was that the villain just thought it sounded scary, and didn’t know that an “over-the-shoulder Boulder Holder” is a brassier.
He would fit in with the current bunch alright. Toss him to Sydney. She needs the practice.
I’d like to submit Dies Horribly…
did anyone else get nine emails with their patron rewards in them?
Well, at last you’re giving Anvil some much deserved attention – you have sorely neglected this cutie. The collateral damage to her dress is just right with the angled hem of her skirt and the halter type top she looks wonderful.
RSS is still broke, This is posted elsewhere I am sure some one else has posted but I don’t feel like looking for it…
Thanks for the comic!
In my case, it popped up on my RSS Ticker (Firefox extension) a few hours after I manually went to it.
Posting this Wednesday.
Monday’s comic showed up on my RSS (Opera’s SmartRSS extension) today.
It would seem either AB was wrong about herself being the “biggest thing” they’ve got or For Whom the Dork Tolls doesn’t stand a chance against Anvil.
Well super powers are more about rock paper scissors than simple power levels.
Anvil just happends to have a power that perfectly counters explosions, but may be powerless against other kinds of attack
Webmaster alert:
The site is blocked by Cisco Web Security again this week.
Two weeks ago: blocked for the whole week.
Last week: unblocked for the whole week
This week: blocked again so far.
Maybe they update their security rating over weekends.
Update: It is unblocked as of Tuesday morning.
I imagine FWTDT is another energy absorber/redirector, it’s just that he can do it with energy beams/blasts too, not just physical energy. Notice that he’s only done stuff to things coming at him, other than that he’s done nothing. His drawback is he has to be reactive.
It’s a thought. Guess we’ll find out soon enough.
Think I’ve figured out why he wears the mask and cape. To conceal the circumcision scars.
Yeah, it’s an old old joke, but (IMO) he suits it perfectly..
Abraham made that joke about Pharaoh’s headdress first.
DaveB, Kevlar isn’t really all that great for melee. It cannot take repeated hits in the same spot, and somebody going to town with the stabby stabby knifey knifey is going to penetrate kevlar fairly easily. Once a kevlar vest has stopped a bullet, it basically has to be retired once the person wearing it gets back home or to the station or wherever they undress at to change out of it.
One option is adding small ceramic plates or scales which can be replaced as needed. Not as pretty but gets the job done. That’s one reason soldiers look so bulky.
Kevlar is just the best known brand name stuff. There is a whole class of materials related to it. Aramid is the more general term. And there are others unrelated chemically that are similar. Most armor these days is a hero sandwich of fiber and sheet materials topped with ceramet (ceramic doped with metal) trauma plates in the most ticklish spots. It’s designed to take multiple high velocity hits before failing and a knife is an exercise in futility unless the attacker goes for an unarmored spot.
Couple of new code names for heroes or villians;
Bob
Ted
Mark
Fred
Bill
Good solid names that tell absolutely NOTHING bout the person’s powers.
Using a name associated with one’s powers is just dumb. It let’s the opponent have some idea of what kind of powers one has and allows the opponent to be able to compensate for the likely power. Halo is actually one of the better names, as it doesn’t quite give away what her abilities are.
Code names? You mean like this:
Gale: Everybody down on the ground!
Evelle: Y’all can just forget that part about freezin’ now.
Gale: Better still to get down there.
Evelle: Yeah, y’all hear that, don’t ya?
[Everybody lays down. Gale looks at the now-empty teller windows]
Gale: Shit! Where’d all the tellers go?
Teller’s voices: We’re down here, sir.
Evelle: They’re on the floor as you commanded, Gale.
Gale: l told you not to use my damn name. Can’t you even try to keep from forgettin’ that?
Evelle: Not even your code name?
Gale: Oh, yeah, yeah. My code name. Y’all hear that? We’re usin’ code names.
The names given to the costumed identities of various supers often come from the media. The super does something that makes the news, and sooner or later someone will come up with a name for them. That is how Clark Kent’s costumed identity came to be “Superman”.
Obviously, the names hung on supers by the press will revolve around the things that are easily observed, like what color their costume is, or what their powers are. Someone dresses in blue and throws lightning bolts? They get called “Blue Thunder”, and will be stuck hearing helicopter jokes for the rest of their life.
Supers who want to avoid being named by the press will pick out a name for themselves, but whatever they pick will need to be dramatic and catchy enough that people accept it. Otherwise the name won’t stick, and they will end up being called whatever some clever blogger comes up with and it will probably be based on their powers.
Exactly. If there is a reason to hide your specific abilities, find names that are impressive yet say nothing. That or names that while they fit, are misleading.
“The Midnight Mark”, all that implies is that they better watch the shadows and the night.
“Hyperion”, a name that says absolutely nothing.
“Deep”, a name that says absolutely nothing again (in a story I’m working on, a super ended up with that name, much to his dismay. The name has NOTHING to do with his powers, just a comment made by the press that stuck.)
“Goliath”, which could be a name that simply stuck because of a person’s size and nothing else.
Just a couple of examples of how names can be misleading.
I have a Superheroine character in the Champions system who goes by the code-name ‘Indigo’ .
https://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/365/3/c/indigo2_by_kaeto1-d4kuetr.jpg
On television, “…Strong Guy”.
Beast: “Have we finally run out of silly names to call ourselves?”
Deep can be an excellent and descriptive codename. As evidence I present to you, Miss Deep (AKA Makuhari Nancy, Clone of Mata Hari) from the Read or Die seies, who had the ability to phase through things, though she’d disagree because, as she put it, it made her sound like a porn star.
Damn reply link
I guess it fall to me to suggest the fill the time comic before Dave releases his next page of awesome.
Stand Still, Stay Silent
It’s not superhero comic and not as light and funny as some stuff but has a pretty good story and interesting and somewhat comical characters. Warning though, it can be a bit dark and creepy in places as it’s set in a post pandemic era where the known world consisting of the Norse countries (Iceland, Norway, Sweden, Denmark and Finland).
That’s a very nice rendering, Dave. I think you’ve improved a great deal. Can you hold it a bit closer? That’s Dr. Hunter, isn’t it?
er HAL is that you?
Thank god, was hoping someone would get that. Otherwise it just looks weird. :)
Will you sing a song Hal while I pull the processors 1 by 1?
BTW I like your rap.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njos57IJf-0
“For whom the bell tolls”?
So that means you are going to let her kill you and then she will feel, like, super bad?
Because that is how the poem goes, it doesn’t matter who is dead, the loss of anyone is a loss for everyone.
In order for the bell to “toll for thee (Anvil)” it means that this dude has died.
Oooor… It all turns into a WWF match.
*runs from the chair*
On the subject of superhero undergarments both male and female undergarments would require some serious (if slightly humorous) consideration. Speaking as a male I would think codpieces would be considered more or less standard equipment, just because you are super strong doesn’t mean you aren’t still vulnerable to a well placed shot below the belt. For female supers undergarments might well require a custom fitted solution both in terms of fashion and protection. For instance
Pyrokinetics would have to avoid many more standard undergarments suck as
On the subject of superhero undergarments both male and female undergarments would require some serious (if slightly humorous) consideration. Speaking as a male I would think codpieces would be considered more or less standard equipment, just because you are super strong doesn’t mean you aren’t still vulnerable to a well placed shot below the belt. For female supers undergarments might well require a custom fitted solution both in terms of fashion and protection. For instance
Pyrokinetics would have to avoid many more standard undergarments on grounds of flammability. Seriously just because you don’t get burned by your own fire doesn’t mean you want
\Something like that is just too farfetched to believe.
On the subject of superhero undergarments both male and female undergarments would require some serious (if slightly humorous) consideration. Speaking as a male I would think codpieces would be considered more or less standard equipment, just because you are super strong doesn’t mean you aren’t still vulnerable to a well placed shot below the belt. For female supers undergarments might well require a custom fitted solution both in terms of fashion and protection. For instance
Pyrokinetics would have to avoid many more standard undergarments on grounds of flammability. Seriously just because you don’t get burned by your own fire doesn’t mean you want to have to deal with washing the smell of burned nylon out of your hair… Not to mention the fact that you would probably get more female recruits if you can prevent your climactic battles from becoming X rated catfights on national TV. To say nothing of the reduction in potential modesty KO’s (insert your favorite anime joke). Material choice would be a serious consideration for many supers and considering the proportional effectiveness of supers to for instance soldiers, the cost of a few pairs of spidersilk or carbon nanotube underwear might well be worthwhile (if slightly
On the subject of superhero undergarments both male and female undergarments would require some serious (if slightly humorous) consideration. Speaking as a male I would think codpieces would be considered more or less standard equipment, just because you are super strong doesn’t mean you aren’t still vulnerable to a well placed shot below the belt. For female supers undergarments might well require a custom fitted solution both in terms of fashion and protection. For instance
Pyrokinetics would have to avoid many more standard undergarments on grounds of flammability. Seriously just because you don’t get burned by your own fire doesn’t mean you want to have to deal with washing the smell of burned nylon out of your hair… Not to mention the fact that you would probably get more female recruits if you can prevent your climactic battles from becoming X rated catfights on national TV. To say nothing of the reduction in potential modesty KO’s (insert your favorite anime joke). Material choice would be a serious consideration for many supers and considering the proportional effectiveness of supers to for instance soldiers, the cost of a few pairs of spidersilk or carbon nanotube underwear might well be a worthwhile investment (if slightly disappointing for fans of the appropriate gender preference). I wonder if Arianna will pick up on the market for super oriented protective undergarments, just think off the potential endorsements (sees Arianna