Grrl Power #239 – Nom de Boom
I’m quite pleased with the name Atomic Bombshell. She was another character who was briefly in Arc-SWAT as a secondary heroine, but not for long. At some point I realized I would actually need villains for the comic and I set her aside for that roster. After all someone whose only power is blowing stuff up surely makes a better villain than hero. Not that she couldn’t find work in the private sector easily enough. On the flip side, the name “For Whom the Death Tolls” is sufficiently awful. I’m sure it will just be abbreviated to Death Toll, which is a fine name for a villain, but I suppose he’s trying to be erudite.
Did you know there’s a Grrl Power subreddit? I didn’t until I tried to set one up. Someone beat me to it. It’s possible they told me but I then promptly forgot. Anyway it lives here, I’ll start posting comic updates there, and I would suggest it might not make a bad forum-ish thing if people want to carry discussions on longer than the lifespan of one post cycle.
It’s telling that I consider not being behind the same thing as being ahead. I only had to spend about 3 hours on the comic on Sunday, so I spent some much needed time unwinding with a video game called Crypt of the Necrodancer. It’s not the sort of game I usually get into. It’s a Roguelike-like I suppose, which is to say the levels are randomized and when you die you start over from the beginning. Normally I think that’s a waste of time, but this game has a few hooks that got me. One is that there are persistent unlocks which help make progressive runs easier like armor, spells and better weapons, but the real hook is that everything happens on a beat. You have to move and attack in time to the funky dance soundtrack, and so do the monsters.
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Madambomb
… She has the ability to create pocket nukes….
Halo needs to make her shield opaque NOW.
It autofilters excessive sonic and photonic energy.
seriously??… you put a ba-bomb on her shirt? a ba-bomb??? and you called her bombshell. dude i thought irony was your bread and butter in comics. you can do better we all know it.
Actually, I think he has his reasons for that. After all … I can’t say most of them come across as being … uh … you know? Professional? They’re coming across as guys who are being paid to do it, being duped into doing it, are just doing it for the giggles or just think they’re awesome and need to prove it.
Definitely not what I’d call hardcore Villain in any way. I mean, Hex, “Why are we here anyway?” among other things kind of implies this is the superhero version of a Pick Up Group.
The only one who seems to be Any bit professional so far is the guy who talked to Syd not too long ago.
Bob-omb
Shebang was taken already anyway. She was a character in Static Shock.
And so is “HALO” from you know, a “video game”… that even Sydney objected to at first… but has since acquiesced about using it…
Really? A video game is the best you can come up with for Halo? Wikipedia can do better than that… Here’s two characters named “Halo” which have been seen in comic books… https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_%28comics%29 and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_%28G.I._Joe%29
And what about Halo Jones from 1984?
And high altitude low orbit paratroopers, the real life equivalents of Halo’s ODSTs
Not to mention Halo is a Common-Use Term, and thus can be used freely without worrying about infrining on pesky copyright laws.
Actually, it is not the copyright laws that apply to names, but trademark and servicemark might, depending on circumstances. The big question with trademarks is always, “Is there sufficent potential to confuse the identification of two things with the same (or similar) names or images?” Purolator is both the name of Canada’s largest courier company and a company that makes various kinds of filters; no problem confusing them, so no conflict. If I name my new watch company Boluva, although it is not identical to another well-known brand, it is close enough that it could cause confusion and a case could be made for trademark infringement. If you draw someone else’s logo (e.g. a big red ‘S’ on a yellow background on an angular shield device) and try to use it for something else, that can cause confusion as to whether there is an endorsement or common ownership, etc. so it would probably be disallowed.
I do think it’d be a better name though
Well there is the name they are called and the name they called themselves. To us she will forever be Shebang.
Bomberma’am!
#!
I’m pretty sure you can reuse names as long as they haven’t been actively used in a while. Just look at the two Captain Marvels. As for Halo being taken, not in a superhero context, which is all that matters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_(comics)
Sydney just wanted people to think everyone was greeting her when then called out her nom de guerre.
…Did these people not see Maxima stand completely unaffected in a nuclear explosion earlier today? What part of “we’re more powerful” are they not getting?
All of it. Don’t worry Max will improve their comprehension in a minute.
I wonder could it actually succeed since I don’t think Maxima is expecting something THAT powerful to smash into her back. Assuming she doesn’t see this happening and gets thus caught off-guard. Considering mr. Grumpy Greenie has to presumably guide the “overnuke” into Maxima, she seems to rely more on speed and dodging rather than shielding?
And either way if the explosion is big enough the rest of the team might be in danger. Halo has her shield up, some of the guys are pretty tough and Dabbler probably has another trick against a big-ass explosion but not all of them have super toughness going on. My concern’s on Jiggawatt, Math, Anvil (a big boom is not kinetics), Harem (unless she gets all 5 copies away in time), Mr. Amorphous and the non-super members of the team including Peggy.
Err, actually, and explosion is the definition of kinetics.
What kills is mostly the impact of the compressed air.
In Anvil’s case, I’d be worried about the radiation rather than the impact.
Actually, radiation is kinetic too. Sub-atomic particles moving at high speeds, ya’ know. Part of what radiation damage IS in a human body is that molecules & atoms get “knocked out whack & cellls die.
One of the things a super-collider does to create the so-called “manmade elements” involves smashing particles together at near-light speed so that they bond together in a coherent electromagnetic field. Mass in motion…That’s kinetics.
Not to be confused with those child’s toy construction set, Kinectix…
Blugh. Physics. I fail at it.
A Bomb isn’t going for the overnuke. She sending a shaped charge of some sort. A directional blast just for Maxima. And Max has plenty of shielding power. Remember she stood, completely unaffected, in a an explosion that left a magma-filled crater a few yards across. And Hex’s beams only attracted her attention, though later they leveled the restaurant. Or what was left of it.
a “shaped” charge is STILL plenty deadly to every OTHER direction than “just” the direction the charge is pointed at… it’s just that it’s DEADLIER in that direction than in the others…
… she stood… on the ground, without attacking or moving, thus being able to shunt all her ability pool into defense. Right now she’s flying and dodging, so she won’t have as many points to defend with – this could actually sting…
This assuming she doesn’t have her stats placed elsewhere at the time. If she has her stats focused in places other than defense she may have a problem. However given the current situation I doubt she would.
A) Mushroom clouds have nothing to do with nucldear explosions.
You get them from every big explosions.
Nukes tend to create big explosions.
B) Maximas power is stroger the more focussed she is. Currenlty she uses her ablities to float, maybe even fly with decent speed. Wich means less points left for defense. Still enough to not worry about hex, but hex was not a major villain here anyway.
C) they will propably distract her otherwise (to get AB to hit at all). So chances are she will even have less points in defense when this hits.
Max is no doubt powerfull, but she has limits. It all depends on how much she expect an attack from them/coordianted operation from them.
She is the only one to still carry glasses, so chances is she knows they are the tough guys (and roughly what they can do).
On point B, Max is sitting in one place, floating and directing traffic. She could very well be putting all her “points” as it were into flying… and invulnerability. Can’t direct traffic if the big shiny gold traffic cop gets her butt shot out of the sky.
Also, we don’t know what her defaults are, only that they can be supercharged past definition, so she might be able to take a pretty solid shot just parked there.
I highly doubt this is in fact radioactive. This is a superpower, to be sure, but she is holding the thing in her hand. Even if she is invulnerable to it she would be pumping out tons of radiation and the guy next to her seems fine and the guy told her to make one anyway as if it was an ok thing to do. They may be dumb for attacking the team but that are likely not THAT dumb.
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I am seeing an issue with the TCP, and with mail configurations. Site grumbles too about SOA, but its fine in my book. Not sure which if any of those might cause Cisco to flag it
https://www.dnsstuff.com/tools#dnsReport|type=domain&&value=grrlpowercomic.com
I don’t suppose Cisco has guidelines for acceptable and unacceptable DNS? Could this be a holdover from the recent site change?
“Catagory: Finance”? o_O
could be worse I tried to access this site using the computer at the local library, only to get a “site blocked to site blocked due to irrelevance” massage
oh, and a blocked due to “pornography and adult themes” message
“…blocked due to irrelevance”? o_O
This is the same library that also blocked anything to do with pokéman due to online gaming, yet if you used the computers in the children’s section you could access the online pokédex and everything
>O_O< (steam coming out my ears) That is the rudest, most arrogant bureaucratic bull exhaust I've ever heard in 60+ years. Some spent inside bureaucratic sludge pits.
Death Toll is currently being used by another super themed web comic though in that one he is retired so the author probably wouldn’t cause problems.
https://evil-inc.com/comic/vulture-lodge-15/
Unless I’ve been misinformed, that wouldn’t be an issue either way as long as the characters don’t look the same. As long as there’s something to make it clear they’re not the same character, you can get away with copying stuff. He could name him Batman and there wouldn’t be any legal repurcussions, although it’d probably be lame and cheesy. I think he could even get away with copying the look too, as long as he made it clear that it wasn’t actually Batman. “He’s just some loon who thinks he’s Batman.”
Just like Batman :P
You could always go the xkcd route and call him “a man who dresses up as a bat.”
Die Fledermaus!
Even Man Bat is used. Batman fought him.
Random thoughts:
1) Poor Greenie. Still no respect on the “who’s who” list. =OP
2) FWTDT: “Paste-pot Pete” can now rest easier knowing that he no longer holds the title of dorkiest supervillain name ever.
3) Furthermore, if he truly wants to be imperious, he could use a fashion designer to go with someone coming up with a better name for him,. Possible explanation: maybe he isn’t all that powerful, so Greenie devised his costume and deliberately has kept him out of combat hoping that Archon would mistake him for one of the big guns and target him.
5) I hope the following is taken as constructive criticism: judging by Maxima’s appearance in the first panel, this battle has really taken its toll on her. Something about the hair and angle of the head just doesn’t look right.
6) Second panel might work better shot from the front. That both Opal and AB are blond and wearing headbands and the proximity of the second and fourth panels might lead some to mistake one for the other. Just my humble opinion for what it’s worth.
Other than the clashingest ever yellow/blue shirt outfit I like Death Toll’s gear. Skull mask and Red Cape communicates clearly that he thinks of himself as a villain, and would like to fight everyone he meets.
His costume has changed slightly is seems. His gauntlets used to have elbow hinge things, that should be visible in panel 6.
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The color clash and that he appears to be wearing ski gloves were my main objections to his costume.. I wouldn’t mind seeing him keep the skull cowl and red hooded cape with gold trim.
I liked Paste-Pot Pete. Kirby always had a way with names.
Especially when he was trying to indicate it was a gag villain. He’s no more effective as the Trapster.
Yeah, but he stuck with it.
Just goes to prove good isn’t the only thing that’s dumb.
but who’s Schwartz is bigger?
::Fistbump::
Never underestimate the power of the schwartz!
The biggest Schwartz? Has to be Youghurt…No fancy titles please, just plain Youghurt.
1) Green Bean hasn’t been formally introduced yet, not even been Leon-ized, so no entry on the “Who’s Who”
5) Yeah, she looks tired, that may be one way to deal with her: wear her down (wonder if that may also be due to stress, apart from dealing with Halo most of the day, she is now having to worry about her team and the surrounding area)
6) The only thing those two have in common is that they are both female with blonde hair: Opal has blue braided hair and a visor that goes under her hair, Shelly has the headband that goes on the outside of her hair all the way around
Hmmm, did you forget a #4?
5: Might just be from having a few downed subordinates. Few things age a commander faster.
At least, to the best of our knowledge, none of them are dead. We’ll see if Amorphous survived Glowbug’s attack later.
That ages a Good commander. There have been plenty throughout history who didn’t care, sadly.
I’m surprised that that opal and the nuclear woman over there haven’t just stayed quiet and out of the public eye, pocket portals and pocket nukes seem like the perfect pair for untraceable bombings and terroristic threatening or even opal with a gun could take out a large number of operatives like Jiggawatt who seem to have average human durability.
Depends on if they are murderers out to cause mass damage, or just don’t like how Maxi talks (how she talks, not just what she says)
Also, it’s possible only sound can pass through the pockals (pock{et port}als)
I think they’re out to do at least SOMETHING big, after all they are performing a semi-coordinated assault on a government military unit though I will admit terroristic threatening with nuclear bombs is a bit extreme in retrospect. And even if it’s just sound then Opal would have been better off partnered with the woman who deafened Jiggawatt. Also if it is only sound it’s nice to see that there are some powers that more mundane and less obviously powerful or useful.
I’m a bit surprised that we haven’t seen any kid supers except for that one super Olympics panel, I’d expect maybe one kid there since kids (especially if they have powers) have a tendency to feel like they’re invincible.
Adolescent males (and to a lesser degree females too) tend to think they are invincible, until they blow out a knee during sports or crash a car.
There’s a great Snow Crash quote on this particular phenomenon.
“Until a man is twenty-five, he still thinks, every so often, that under the right circumstances he could be the baddest motherfucker in the world. If I moved to a martial-arts monastery in China and studied real hard for ten years. If my family was wiped out by Colombian drug dealers and I swore myself to revenge. If I got a fatal disease, had one year to live, and devoted it to wiping out street crime. If I just dropped out and devoted my life to being bad.
Hiro used to feel this way, too, but then he ran into Raven. In a way, this was liberating. He no longer has to worry about being the baddest motherfucker in the world. The position is taken.”
And, as Tina Turner once sang, “We don’t need another Hiro”.
Primo: I have to admit that I really like Ms. Bombshell’s headband, and that I am going to laugh if we find out her first name is Katie.
Secondo: If her abilities are nuclear rather than just explosive as her naming scheme suggests, why the hell is she there? She’d cause to much damage to her allies to be worth it. And if not why hasn’t she teamed up with Opal or someone else (flight or movement types) to take potshots at Maxima to at least keep Maxima distacted? It’s obvious that Maxima is commanding the others so hinder her already!
Terzo: Death Bell Boy, Bombshell exuse is she can’t hit anything, what’s yours? Even if your a distraction standing around does not a distraction make. And if your abilities are being used for co-ordination or something else not combat related why are you standing in plain sight? Take the planners and commanders and hide somewhere. Or better yet since you are deflecting hits, stand in front of your commanders as a human shield!
I’m left wondering if Opal is related to Gem, from the 1980’s cartoon.
Well, she uses her mini-portals to send messages, so she’d be Opal and the Hole-a-grams.
ba-dum-tish
*chirrip-chirrip*
Hole-a-gram for Mongo? Hole-a-gram for Mongo?
Mongo is just pawn in game of life.
Also, in my headcanon the dude in the orange shorts is named Mongo now.
What is it with these people and holding balls of atomic fire in front of their face? Is it for the dramatic lighting ? ” Oh hey, I made a miniature sun so now I must stare at it with menacing glee. ”
. . . I am 100% ready for Sydney to Lighthook that into her face.
Oo! Oo! I vote for that one! That would be pure awesome! Dave likes poking fun at traditional tropes too, so it fits in that regard as well!
Halo already pretty much did that to Lee Press on Claws, but that was more of Ultimate Weapon vs. Ultimate Shield than Idiot-Holding-Weapon-Inches-From-Face.
Nobody has a name for the green-hair TK? I suggest Captain Marbles. Since he is trying to be in charge and not doing so hot.
Can’t call him that Jabbers caused him to lose his marbles.
General Greenhorn
why didn’t he keep them in a bag, even I learnt in the infants
I’m thinking that Max is smart enough to keep her shield’s reinforced while keeping just enough power to hover (“Engineering, give me 1/4 impulse and divert all remaining power to shields!”) Which means unless Atomic Boobs there is able to put out a boom bigger than Max did earlier, all she’ll do is draw attention to herself, which could be unhealthy.
And heaven help her if she actually pisses Maxima off!
I’m envisioning it being a big “BOOM” followed by Maxima staring down at her somewhat annoyed, and Bombshell getting the little sweatdrop “Uh…sorry?” expression. Then getting dismantled in about 1.2 seconds.
Maxima just looking at Hex was enough for Hex to get second thoughts. If only AB learned from that.
Most people aren’t that bright. To paraphrase one comedian just image how smart the average person is and remember half the people out there are dumber than that.
Some of them actually make it all the way to a Darwin Award…
If you really want to see just how dumb people can be go to the comments section of any YouTube video that mentions Global Warming, evolution or guns.
Or Global Warming caused by evolved guns
After a week and a half out of town the Villain Tally returns in V1.7!
Reminders:
+ My original post of this list and its subsequent commentary can be found HERE
+ Things that I specifically want verified will be marked with this symbol: *(?)*
+ I am not trying to make a villain bios and powers wiki, but I do want suggestions on NAMES!
Changelog for V1.7:
+ Active/Defeated status and “last seen” page # as usual
+ I chose remove and ignore generic bad guys in normal street clothes being flung through the air in the background of panels or shown facing off against a protagonist without a decisive blow. I will only list generic looking people as defeated as they are seen knocked out or taking a hard hit from the protagonists. This is simpler and it removes uninteresting villains from the active list.
+ I moved Hex to the defeated list because even though she wasn’t technically defeated, she’s most probably out of this fight.
Active (In rough order of 1st appearance)
1) Male in blue suit and fedora with white eye makeup/tattoos [1st appearance: #186]
——Suggested names: ”Fedorka” and ”Blue Suit”
——Last seen chatting with Halo in #236
2) “Atomic Bombshell” [1st appearance: #202]
——Last seen charging up in #239
3) Green haired male [1st appearance: #204]
——May be Forshadowed Villain #6 *(?)*
——Given that his counterpart is
——Last seen giving orders in #239
4) ”Opal” [1st appearance: #204]
——May be Forshadowed Villain #7 *(?)*
——Last seen in #239
5) “For Whom the Death Tolls”/”Death Toll” formerly “Red Cape” [1st appearance: #209]
——Last seen in #239
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Defeated (In rough order of presumed defeat)
1) Blue-haired Meat-head [1st appearance: #200]
——Beaten by Anvil in #202
2) Crystal-handed (Apparently naked) Meat-head [1st appearance: #202]
——Backhanded by Maxima in #203
3) “Shadow Boxer” [1st appearance: #205]
——Beaten by Halo in #206
4) Caucasian male wearing black shirt [1st appearance: #206]
——Choked out by Anvil in #206
——may be Defeated Villain 19 below pictured face down in #224 *(?)*
5) Spiky hair with yellow tuft Male [1st appearance: #207]
——Bean-bagged in the face by Shawn in #207
6) “Concretia” [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Math in #209 and shot by Peggy in #216
7) Female in red costume with gymnastics ribbon [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Achilles (launched by Maxima) in #209
8) Caucasian Male in white tank top [1st appearance: #210]
——Beaten by Math in #210
9) Black Male with fire knuckles [1st appearance: #210]
——Beaten by Math induced friendly fire in #210
10) Laser beam eyes [1st appearance: #204]
——Ameteur dentistry by Math in #211
11) “Lee Press-on Claws” [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Halo in #212
12) Anvil’s 3rd bad guy [1st appearance: #212]
——Only torso with a light blue shirt, and belt in Anvil’s grip shown
——Beaten by Anvil sometime between #206 and #212
13) Male in navy blue shirt with Mohawk [1st appearance: #214]
——Pictured defeated on the restaurant floor in #214
14) Shirtless sweaty Black Male with braided hair [1st appearance: #219]
——Beaten by Heatwave in #219
15) Male in Blue vest [1st appearance: #219]
——Head-gripped by stalwart in #219
16) “Heavenly Sword” [1st appearance: #203]
——Defeated by Dabbler in #223
17) “Silent Shadow/Mach the Knife” [1st appearance: #219]
——Incapacitated by Dabbler in #220 Drugged by Harem in #224
18) Partial shirtless torso and arm wearing black pants [1st appearance: #224] *(?)*
——Pictured defeated face down in the grass in the very bottom corner of #224
19) Caucasian Male wearing black shirt and camo pants[1st appearance: #224] *(?)*
——Pictured defeated face down in the grass in #224
——May be Defeated Villain 4 listed above *(?)*
20) Blond Male in red pants, yellow shirt, with hat [1st appearance: #226]
——Beaten by Mr. Amorphous in #226
21) Laser-burnt male in green Camo skinny jeans [1st appearance: #227]
——Hit by Friendly fire from Hex in #227
22) “Gauntlette” [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Jiggawatt in #228
23) Caucasian Male with dark pony tail and green cloud legs [1st appearance: #228]
——Beaten by Jiggawatt in #228
24) Blond Male in overalls with orange energy lines [1st appearance: #228]
——Beaten by Jiggawatt in #228
25) Pair of legs wearing red pants with black greeves [1st appearance: #228]
——Thrown into the asphalt by Maxima in #228
26) Caucasian male with yellow shirt, green pants and fire hair [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Halo in #229
27) “Hex” [1st appearance: #202]
——Last seen escaping through the bushes in #229
28) “Boilerplate” [1st appearance: #226]
——Beaten by Maxima in #230
29) “Breakpoint” [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Hiro in #231
30) Giant wearing Orange shorts and glasses [1st appearance: #204]
——Suggested name: “Budget Hulk”
——Beaten by Hiro in #231
31) Blue crystal swordsman [1st appearance: #231]
——Suggested name: ”Blue Ice”
——Beaten by Hiro in #231
32) “Glowbug” [1st appearance: #219]
——Defeated by Dabbler in #235
33) Hairdresser with Zebra Mohawk [1st appearance: #229]
——Suggested name: “The Barberian”
——Surrendered to Dabbler in #235
34) “Jabberwokky” [1st appearance: #213]
——Squished by Active Villain #3 in #238
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Foreshadowed (In rough order of 1st appearance)
1) Deus [1st appearance: #130]
2) Vale [1st appearance: #130]
3) Demon Lord (“Screwball”) [1st appearance: #176]
4) Panel 2 [1st appearance: #186]
5) Panel 4 [1st appearance: #186]
6) Panel 5 Foreground [1st appearance: #186]
——This may actually be Active Villain #3 *(?)*
7) Panel 5 Background [1st appearance: #186]
——This may actually be Active Villain #4 *(?)*
8) Panel 6 [1st appearance: #186]
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Honorable Mentions (In rough order of 1st appearance)
1) That Flying rescue guy! [1st appearance: #7]
——Not a villain, but not on the team either
2) ”The Filmer” [1st appearance: #8]
——Technically a figment of Halo’s imagination, but I desperately want him to be real!
3) Lightning fist bar fight guy [1st appearance: #185]
——Suggested name: “Electric Fohawk”
4) Black construction worker [1st appearance: #185]
——Gave up his life of crime
5) “Nyah Nyah Can’t Hit Me Man.” [1st appearance: #193]
——”He doesn’t actually commit any crimes though, he just shows up during battles and annoys everyone. And I’m this (–] [–) close to making him canon.” –DaveB
Concretia/Anima seems likely to be active. I mean, we haven’t seen her immaterial form damaged yet, right?
yes, but she has been effectively put down out of the fight twice now. Showing her coming back a third time would take up unnecessary pages and she hasn’t been seen in the background at all since peggy blew you brains out. I feel it’s a safe bet that she’s not coming back.
May I suggest a category for villians who may or may not have been taken down but not out, you know for Concretia/Anima and “Budget Halo”/Hex.
I’d consider it, but the hard part is determining who is and is not definitively down… The only ones that are absolutely down are the ones we see with sedative bracelets. so where do you set the bar?
I’ve essentially treated defeated as “out of the fight” for the sake of simplicity. If you take a broad view then defeat simply means to “win a victory over (someone) in a battle or other contest; overcome or beat.” in that regard forcing a retreat like with hex or pinning down someone with superior firepower like concretia, or convincing someone to surrender like barberian, or incapacitating with a dislocated shoulder like boilerplate. none of them are unconscious, but they have been defeated.
A fair point though I do reserve the right to make a distinct between someone obviously slinking away or disappearing with their tail between their legs mostly injuries to their pride and someone was getting knocked out or painfully dragging themselves after being shot in the back with a laser.
and that is your right. If you’d like to make a supplemental list I’d welcome it.
Changelog 1.7.1
+ Added Beaten but presumed escaped section
+ Reformatted Foreshadowed section
+ Added attributution to Honorable Mentions
+ Made second Fedora man entry until Dave confirms they are the same
Active (In rough order of 1st appearance)
1) Male in blue suit and fedora with Avatar styled Tattoo [1st appearance: #186 or #204]
——Bears strong resemblence to Foreshadowed #4 [#186] Dave has yet to confirm
——Suggested names: ”Fedorka” and ”Blue Suit”
——Last seen chatting with Halo in #236
2) “Atomic Bombshell” [1st appearance: #202]
——Last seen charging up in #239
3) Green haired male [1st appearance: #204]
——Bears passing resemblence to Foreshadowed Villain #6 [#186] Dave has yet to confirm
——Last seen giving orders in #239
4) ”Opal” [1st appearance: #204]
——Bears passing resemblence to Foreshadowed Villain #7 [#186] Dave has yet to confirm
——Last seen in #239
5) “For Whom the Death Tolls”/”Death Toll” formerly “Red Cape” [1st appearance: #209]
——Last seen in #239
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Defeated (In rough order of presumed defeat)
1) Blue-haired Meat-head [1st appearance: #200]
——Beaten by Anvil in #202
2) Crystal-handed (Apparently naked) Meat-head [1st appearance: #202]
——Backhanded by Maxima in #203
3) “Shadow Boxer” [1st appearance: #205]
——Beaten by Halo in #206
4) Caucasian male wearing black shirt [1st appearance: #206]
——Choked out by Anvil in #206
——may be Defeated Villain 19 below pictured face down in #224 *(?)*
5) Spiky hair with yellow tuft Male [1st appearance: #207]
——Bean-bagged in the face by Shawn in #207
6) Female in red costume with gymnastics ribbon [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Achilles (launched by Maxima) in #209
7) Caucasian Male in white tank top [1st appearance: #210]
——Beaten by Math in #210
8) Black Male with fire knuckles [1st appearance: #210]
——Beaten by Math induced friendly fire in #210
9) Laser beam eyes [1st appearance: #204]
——Ameteur dentistry by Math in #211
10) “Lee Press-on Claws” [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Halo in #212
11) Anvil’s 3rd bad guy [1st appearance: #212]
——Only torso with a light blue shirt, and belt in Anvil’s grip shown
——Beaten by Anvil sometime between #206 and #212
12) Male in navy blue shirt with Mohawk [1st appearance: #214]
——Pictured defeated on the restaurant floor in #214
13) Shirtless sweaty Black Male with braided hair [1st appearance: #219]
——Beaten by Heatwave in #219
14) Male in Blue vest [1st appearance: #219]
——Head-gripped by stalwart in #219
15) “Heavenly Sword” [1st appearance: #203]
——Defeated by Dabbler in #223
16) “Silent Shadow/Mach the Knife” [1st appearance: #219]
——Incapacitated by Dabbler in #220 Drugged by Harem in #224
17) Partial shirtless torso and arm wearing black pants [1st appearance: #224] *(?)*
——Pictured defeated face down in the grass in the very bottom corner of #224
18) Caucasian Male wearing black shirt and camo pants[1st appearance: #224] *(?)*
——Pictured defeated face down in the grass in #224
——May be Defeated Villain 4 listed above *(?)*
19) Blond Male in red pants, yellow shirt, with hat [1st appearance: #226]
——Beaten by Mr. Amorphous in #226
20) Laser-burnt male in green Camo skinny jeans [1st appearance: #227]
——Hit by Friendly fire from Hex in #227
21) “Gauntlette” [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Jiggawatt in #228
22) Caucasian Male with dark pony tail and green cloud legs [1st appearance: #228]
——Beaten by Jiggawatt in #228
23) Blond Male in overalls with orange energy lines [1st appearance: #228]
——Beaten by Jiggawatt in #228
24) Pair of legs wearing red pants with black greeves [1st appearance: #228]
——Thrown into the asphalt by Maxima in #228
25) Caucasian male with yellow shirt, green pants and fire hair [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Halo in #229
26) “Boilerplate” [1st appearance: #226]
——Beaten by Maxima in #230
27) “Breakpoint” [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Hiro in #231
28) Giant wearing Orange shorts and glasses [1st appearance: #204]
——Suggested name: “Budget Hulk”
——Beaten by Hiro in #231
29) Blue crystal swordsman [1st appearance: #231]
——Suggested name: ”Blue Ice”
——Beaten by Hiro in #231
30) “Glowbug” [1st appearance: #219]
——Defeated by Dabbler in #235
31) Hairdresser with Zebra Mohawk [1st appearance: #229]
——Suggested name: “The Barberian”
——Surrendered to Dabbler in #235
32) “Jabberwokky” [1st appearance: #213]
——Squished by Active Villain #3 in #238
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Beaten but presumed escaped (In rough order of defeat)
1) “Concretia” (Real but unstated name Anima) [1st appearance: #204]
——Beaten by Math in #209 and shot by Peggy in #216
——Missing but powers may make capture impossible
2) “Hex” [1st appearance: #202]
——Last seen escaping through the bushes in #229
———————————————————————————
Foreshadowed (In rough order of 1st appearance)
1) Deus [1st appearance: #130]
2) Vale [1st appearance: #130]
3) Demon Lord (“Screwball”) [1st appearance: #176]
4) Tattooed Villain in suit and fedora [1st appearance: #186 Panel 1]
——Bears strong resemblence to Active #1 but Dave has yet to confirm
5) Creepy Priest [1st appearance: #186 Panel 2]
——Suggested name: “Father Creeper”
6) Middle Eastern Super [1st appearance: #186 Panel 4]
——Suggested names: “Super Terrorist” or “Al’Jihadist”
7) Shadowed Male with Shark teeth [1st appearance: #186 Panel 5]
——Bears passing resemblance to Active Villain #3
8) Shadowed Female with braids [1st appearance: #186 Panel 5]
——Bears passing resemblance Active Villain #4
9) Blue hair super in blue cat shaped harlaquin mask [1st appearance: #186 Panel 6]
——Suggested name: “Aoi Neko Kamen”
——————————————————————————–
Honorable Mentions (In rough order of 1st appearance)
1) That Flying rescue guy! [1st appearance: #7]
——Not a villain, but not on the team either
——Technically a figment of Halo’s imagination
2) ”The Filmer” [1st appearance: #8]
——Technically a figment of Halo’s imagination, but I desperately want him to be real!
3) Lightning fist bar fight guy [1st appearance: #185]
——Suggested name: “Electric Fohawk”
——Technically a figment of Maxima’s imagination
4) Black construction worker [1st appearance: #185]
——Gave up his life of crime
——Technically a figment of Maxima’s imagination
5) “Nyah Nyah Can’t Hit Me Man.” [1st appearance: #193]
——Technically a figment of Halo’s imagination
——”He doesn’t actually commit any crimes though, he just shows up during battles and annoys everyone. And I’m this (–] [–) close to making him canon.” –DaveB
Shit “The Fedora Man/Men” is an awesome name for him/them.
DaveB has yet to confirm or deny that both appearances are of the same person or even that the early appearance even was a “person” and not simply Ariana’s imagination of what a villain might look like.
Same can be said about Green Bean and Opal
I don’t quite understand what you mean by “same”: that he hasn’t said whether or not that’s Green Bean and Opal in the fifth panel of that strip?
green bean… I find that amusing.
in regard to the appearance. We see in that same page screwball the demon lord who is a dead ringer for the demon Dabbler banished 10 pages earlier and Mr. Deus and Vale as well. given that we saw people that we know are real we can assume by the rules of good story-telling that the others are as well.
Screwball, Deus, and Vale are pretty confirmable. Fedorka is likely the same guy as or at least related to the suit on 186. Opal and Greenie are at best a superficial resemblance to the couple on Panel 5 but I wouldn’t completely rule them out.
Father Creeper, Super Terrorist, and Aoi Neko Kamen should be easy to recognize when they show up.
decent names… but super terrorist is the weakest of the 3 IMO
I was trying my best to channel Leon. I later thought Al’Jihadist would be better for him
1) So 1/3 if we don’t count Fedora or his possible lookalike and still less than 1/2 if we do? Hardly a precedent.
2) Good story-telling also includes such things as plot twists, which often involves giving the audience an “obvious” answer and then showing how their assumptions were wrong based on previously shown evidence (such as the differences between facial features and clothing and his thought comment about Halo).
3) Even if one does assume he’s a real (Halo-earth) person, your objection still fails to address, much less rule out, two of the possibilities that I’ve mentioned before in comments: first, that it’s someone who (probably deliberately) bears a really good resemblance to him rather than him; and, second, that Ariana may have misrepresented his response, e.g., they met (or she’s glimpsed him before), got off on the wrong foot, and now she somehow wrongly pictures him as the villain type. And I wouldn’t be surprised if both of the above have been used regularly enough in various media to make them tropes.
you’re right on a few points. But refer to Chekhov’s Gun when you are dealing with foreshadowing. If there is a loaded rifle on the stage in act I, then by Act III that rifle will be fired. The set up DaveB gave with page 186 combining screwball, deus, and vale, and showing an arabic guy saying “so im dead so much the better” after maxima said both that she eliminated supers in the middle east and “the other guy who fought me to a standstill is dead” is also strong evidence that that guy is real. And then DaveB followed it up with a fedora character who looks suspiciously like challenge accepted guy (and possibly greenie and opal, though I’m slightly less convinced on those two simply because they were shadowy figures and the silhouettes weren’t a perfect match). Cat mask and religious seeming zealot are outlyers I grand you, but the rest is a great deal of effort for simple misdirection. I feel pretty confident in my own theory so I don’t think you’d be able to change my mind on it.
Also your assumption specifically for Fedora is that he is not a villain. I maintain that he is in fact more of a villain than the people currently fighting. As Halo pointed out he’s watching and learning all their strategies. The exchange that he hopes that Halo doesnt get killed does not exclude him from being a villain because we’ve seen a lot of villains who bear no ill will to the heroes. It’s a job. So “Challenge Accepted” could still be very accurate, and he intends to mess up our protagonists at some future date.
The motivations of the people fighting are likely fame. Afterall Shadow Boxer when he attacked halo said “you’re about to make us both very famous” or some such. This also fits with the shadowy figures saying “maybe we can use this” because they can be using the opportunity to make their debut as a superpowered gang intent on getting rich and famous through high-profile crime.
Finally I think you are too keen on dismissing things because they are common tropes. From what we have seen of this comic so far, the author never realy seems to be one to buck the tropes. in fact he adopts them and then calls attention to them. Why not so with foreshadowing?
Let me state this unequivocally so that no one makes such an uninformed statement again: I do not know whether he’s a hero, villain, or something else entirely. Furthermore, I’m not leaning either way, for that matter.
I have done no such thing. On the contrary, I have unreservedly stated that I don’t know whether he is a villain, hero, or neither. For what it’s worth, I’m not even rooting for one or the other. Rather, my objection is those who claim to know something (in this case, that he is a villain) definitely when there is insufficient evidence for their claim.
Unless Halo has somehow acquired mind-reading skills, though, that’s only a guess. And superhero misunderstandings about other superheros is another trope.
Also, he would have to be fairly stupid not to learn a great deal by observing the fight. However:
1) he’s also observing the strategies of Archon’s opponents;
2) it tells of nothing as to whether that was his original purpose for being there or simply a bonus; and,
3) most importantly, it tells us nothing of what he intends to do with the information (Batman, for example, keeps files on how to take down other Justice League members, however much he may hope he never has to use such files).
There are no hard and fast rules to good writing and that includes Chekhov’s Gun- which is why tropes are averted, inverted, and subverted all the time. And even if it were a hard and fast rule, Chekhov’s Gun does not specify how a seemingly insignificant will become significant (or whether for good or for bad), only that it should.
Search TVTrope’s Grrl Power page for the words “averted”, “subverted”, and “inverted”.
Myth busted.
Also, if you’re going to go that route:
1) the difference in facial appearance and dress (tie vs. no tie) and his
“good kid” thought comment could be foreshadowing as well; and,
2) “red herring’ is also a trope in and of itself.
As for dismissing things, all I’ve done is attempt to stem the mindhive rush to label him a villain by providing possible, reasonable explanations and scenarios for data that seem to contradict the possibility of him being a hero… or at least, against Archon- just as you have for the “good kid” thought comment.
If you want to keep on proclaiming you know something for certain based on insufficient evidence… well, you’ll probably be right some of the time. But most likely you’ll eventually be wrong as well and look somewhat foolish because of it. I can’t keep you from doing so if that is what you’re bound and determined to do, but don’t so I didn’t warn you.
Ack… please excuse the poor editing. I wrote this, had trouble posting it, and then copy pasted it to notepad where I decided to edit it some more and sort of forgot to proofread it before recopy-pasting back to the comment box. Plus, some tiredness may or may not have been involved.
Not to mention a Whatsit, a siren, several demons, a couple of vampire and a Fae princess amongst others!
what?
That’s either the best misplaced reply yet, or someone just wigged out in mid-comment.
this is a whatsit
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Wotsits.JPG
Sorry Zephy and eddi this was SUPPOSED to be in reply to Guesticus on the first page but I screwed the pooch. :)
TMI! Get a room already!
No no, they have their own mystical beasties, including a pair of fresh sirens that used to be the literal devil/angel on the shoulder of the main character (said main character has gone through about 3 or 4 sets of shoulder guardians: he keeps wearing them out or sending them to the loony bin)
they all took extended medical leaves for psych reasons. (for those who don’t know, this is a guy who has faced a minor goddess in her home, been split into at least 2 temporal duplicates, been abducted by aliens twice, and wound up on a North Korean park bench wearing nothing but a smile and his charm [and was almost married twice before he got back across the DMZ])
Ooooooh, poor Yorp…
I was wondering why there were no Yorp comments thus far.
Loving atomic bombshells bo-omb shirt :3
Just the shirt?
Something tells me Halo is about to earn another level on her SkillTree.
Wasn’t Maxima’s blast that triggered the SkillTree earlier?
That seems to be the consensus among the commenters. But only Dave knows.
Apply lotion to burn
Hold on, A Bomb may need it more in a second.
I just got Crypt of the Necrodancer like a week ago. It’s amazingly more fun than it really should be. I’ve never been into rogue-likes but I love rhythm games and it seems for me that most games could be improved with a little rhythm added in.
Now about the comic. Like the development. Looking forward to seeing how effective or ineffective this attack is about to be, though I’m betting on at least one additional page before we see its effect. One thing I’m curious about though: I’ve never really read comics so I don’t know if this is normal or not, but it seems like it jumps around a lot during the action. Explanation: Literally 3 panels earlier, green hair was fighting Jabberwocky, then he’s standing, giving orders without any connecting frames. The panel with Amorphous getting taken down is followed(if we look at the next page) by Jiggawat missing Death Toll without any connecting panel confirming that Amorphous went down( I know he did go down, but let’s face it that supers have taken hits like that and not been immediately KO’d), the awesome hilarious panel of hairdresser talking to Dabbler about surrendering is followed by switching to mystery watcher bad guy without a panel actually showing whether or not hairdresser was serious about surrendering.
Is that how comic book fights normally go? It’s not a criticism mind you, I just feel like I’m missing something. Is it intended or am I just Heatwave… er… not getting it?
Even though the comic is running a lot of strips, the action is measured in minutes or even seconds from Brainless and Pantsless wrecking the party to now. In the case of Barberian surrendering, there is little chance he didn’t mean it. Amorphous’ status will be shown when he either hits another target or is carried off at the end of the fight. If we don’t see what happened to Jabber after the pavement hit her, it’s a safe betshe is KOed and no longer interesting.
Dave is trying to show a lot happening and is using conventional comic styles to keep the transitions short and quick. If a character goes down or quits they are out. There are alternates but those are reserved for the big players.
I figured that was his goal, and again I’m not criticizing. I guess just at the end of each of those pages I was expecting some kind of transition frame and there wasn’t one and was really just wondering if that was how comic book melees normally go.
Part of me wonders cause I’m practicing drawing in the hopes of doing my own little comic. I don’t think I’ll ever be on Dave’s level because it’s a hobby for me and not a passion, but it’s information that I’m curious about because I don’t see it this way in my head. So I was just wondering if that’s normal.
Over years of comic reading, I have seen both styles. Transition panels are more common and easy to follow. They also take some guesswork out of reading the story. Doing without them requires the readers follow closely and pay attention to details. Ditto the artist has to be consistent and creative with those details. Dave has gotten better, but his mook-level characters were too generic at first to track well. If course in a big fight there usually are generic cannon fodder to challenge low power characters while the bosses go over their heads. This fight is right about at that point.
If Dave focuses on one part of the fight for more than 2 pages, people will complain about only getting to see one part.
And I wasn’t expecting a whole other page, just a panel. Like with Mr. A, just a panel showing him dropping with his eyes closed (like Heatwave), even in the background. And by the way when I say expecting I don’t mean that I had something in mind that he SHOULD have done, just that I had in mind what I thought would be next. Like I expected the first panel of the next page to show my example instead of just immediately jumping over to Jiggawatt missing Death Toll.
Not saying I’m right (in fact openly admitting I probably am wrong) it just seems to me that if these pages were in fact all in a physical book, the action would seem to be jumping to much around with 0 connectivity other than it’s all in one parking lot. (I sat there for a minute using the alt+left and right arrows to quickly moved between the pages and felt like some panels had been deleted still) I may be way off, that’s why I was curious if it’s normal for comic book fights, ya know?
Oh just to clarify, the slight confusion aside I’m still really enjoying the comic and dig the action of the fight regardless. This is the only webcomic I’ve found that’s managed to keep me coming back to it every update day, so any thing negative I might find obviously doesn’t matter too much because it still holds my interest.
Lol if Maxima Eats it.
@DaveB: there is another strip i follow called Selkie, and one of the trolls there was complaining about how long it was taking to get a scene over with (only about a month/5 weeks-ish) and i couldn’t resist feeding the troll by telling him about your comic… oops!, my bad… but it got me thinking about time frames here and i have a couple of questions… 1) currently, what time is it in-comic? i’m guess-timating it to be about 1900-ish because the food had just started getting served,but they hadn’t yet really finished eating dinner before this fiasco happened… and WAAAYYY back in strip #5 i figured it was about 10 o’clock in the morning when Joel showed up at the comic shop… could you confirm/deny my theory? no big deal either way, but I’m curious as to how far off i am…
Looks like it was just after sundown when it started so depending on the time of year and the location it could be anywhere from 7:00-10:00 PM (1900-2200) assuming the fight lasts as long as an hour at this point. Given most restaurants like to close between 9:00-10:00 most school nights and it’d be harder to reserve a restaurant on a Friday or Saturday (big money night where a 10:00-11:00 PM closing is more common), 7-8 PM-ish is reasonable.
This particular restaurant is staying open all night long tonight…WAY open. Al Fresco dining after the fight, anyone?
Cute and apparently it’s a Tuesday in story.
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1295
Good lord, maybe you should keep Dabbler and Sydney separated. Can you imagine the experiments and pranks those two would come up with given enough time together? I’m kind of afraid to and I think Leon should be exceptionally fearful, especially if one of Sydney’s unseen powers is power duplication. ::Shudders at thought of Sydney with succubus powers::
That would require Sydney to develop some degree of resistance to succubus-glamour:
SYD: “…so how would it… work… if… you… were… to… uhbuhhh-h-h-h…”
DAB: “Sydney, sweetie? Snap out of it.”
SYD: “Uhh…? Oh! Right! Well! Uhm, what was that again?”
What part of power duplication did you miss? ;p
Seriously though, I never said there would be challenges.
wouldn’t be
“Yeah well, you’re a Phrasic… Dumb Face.”
Surprised no one has commented on that yet :D
1) It’s not our fault. We can hardly be expected ti comment on every tidbit of comedic genius on DaveB‘s part.
2) I don’t know about anyone else, but that may very well be the first time I’ve seen the word “phrasic” used. Maybe there’s a reason for that?
that probably won’t do anything (she did survive her own singularity shot during the power exhibition, remember?)
at a really far distance though, that’s why she threw the tank so far away, no telling if she could have survived right up next to it as she will be from the hit she’s about to take… i suspect she “could have” by why test that theory in retrospect, when we’ll know in a hew seconds (comic time) that she’ll be able to handle thins one… though i’ll bet it WILL do what Astro-Tough* whats… to disrupt their co-ordination. just like if Opal or himself were to be taken out, the bad guys co-ordination (for what little there seems to be) will be gone.
* (his green hair reminds me of the fake grass stuff)
Captain Chia-Pet? Admiral Astro-Turf?
Yes, was thinking ‘Chia-pet’ but couldn’t remember the name
Green Grouch?
Wait, I forgot there is already a world-famous green grouch. Trash that one.
The Grinch that Told Death Mask?
Right. Even more irritating than For Whom The Death Bell Tolls.
Believe eddi was referring to Oscar (did you know he started out orange? he must of gotten mouldy and rotten living on Sesame Street :P)
At the end of “today’s” battle:
Anvil: That is the last of them. [ Unceremoniously dumps an unconscious Death Trolls in the line of arrested/drugged bad guys ] Uh, Sydney, what is happening with your orbs?
Halo: Sweet! Okay, stay calm and think this through this time.
Gwen: She levels up twice in one day?! That is just not fair!
Let’s hope they at least have a safety mechanism built in to prevent them going into their swirly upgrade mode during inconvenient times. Imagine Syd flying along at 5000 ft taking out bad guys and racking up points. We hear a loud ‘Ding!’ and all orb functions stop and commence their victory spin, leaving Sydney plummeting to the ground. Soon afterwards she is standing in front of the pearly gates being given an actual halo. Maybe this is how they ended up in the ocean in the first place. My guess is while at least one orb is still activated, the upgrade function is locked out.
I was figuring that Sydney had just dropped her shield and recalled the Lighthook when the orbs would start their upgrade dance.
Perhaps she’ll unlock the instruction manual
Syd: “Man, I wish I knew how this worked”
Unknown Orb: “Man pages active…”
(for all the UNIX/Linux hats out there)
So that’s what the green one does. Ooh, I can be the new Poison Ivy! Okay, you weed, grow! Blarg! Help! Somebody get me out of this thing!
OK confused from the prior panel and this one. Wasn’t jabberwocky on the “bad Guy” side. If so then why is she attacking the other villains. Or are the new villains actually hero’s? I am seeing a plot continuity problem here or maybe a hole?
You really need to read more than just the last two pages. Dabbler hypnotized her into attacking the other villains.
Ahh ok that makes sense. I missed that page somewhere between the exploding pun grenades.
You really need to read more than just the last two pages. Dabbler hypnotized her into attacking the other villains.
Secondly, I’m not a fan of this new comment system, because it screws up too often and creates a completely new comment when I’m trying to respond to someone else’s comment instead.
Portals can be pretty dangerous to play with. I’m thinking more Blink ripping apart the Phalanx and less Chell with a Portal Gun.
Bah, I forgot to add in. I think Opal could be pretty disastrous for our Arc-crew.
Depends but theoretically. In the anime series Yuusha Oh Gaogaigar, they had a portal like device designed to theoretically protect the city called the Dividing Driver. They had no time to test it before a combat situation requiring it cropped up. Of course it worked like intended but there were concerns the first time it was used that it could destroy the city. Then again there was the whole Macross/Robotech spacefold incident (similar concept in many ways) where a whole city was shifted with the SDF-1 when it tried to escape the planet wreaking much devastation.
Let us not forget that only in a Japanese anime would you ever find a character hunting a frozen tuna in space…
There is that. Let’s face it. Some of the logic in their stories make left field seem pretty close to home.
That said I’ve seen some tropes handled really well in some animes including the recently discussed unmolested powerup, both in disrupting the powerup by attacking during the attempted and by having systems in in place to protect the powerup process.
Indeed. They’re either very creative or there are drugs in the water supply.
Or both
So… someone was supposed to distract Sydney with something shiny… Is that… going to happen?
A mutli-coloured flashing glowing ball flies by Sydney, while she is still inside the shield, then it bounces off of said shield before doing an erratic dance around her. Sydney studies it for a second, then goes for a home run using Lighthook. It bounces off the top of Hex’s head as she continues to sneak away.
Atomic Bombshell: Brains, beauty, power, and the maturity of a teenage girl
Death Toll: Phenomenal super powers! Itty bitty brain cells!
Shit, I just realized Greenies plan. Telekinetically hold the bomb on Maxima. A strong enough blast that close might do more than annoy her especially if it’s a shaped charge. It may not kill or seriously injure her but it may well knock her out of action long enough to rally against the others or to get away.
And AB is right, feedback from telekinetically holding an exploding overnuke might well kill him. At the very least, it’ll take him down for a while.
Think of it this way she’ll at the very least get what she gave Hex.
Prepping superblast is a full-round action. However, prepper may carry on a full round of conversation (or “banterlude” as it may be called in comics parlance) while readying the attack.
Well, yeah…Talking is usually considered to be a “Free Action” in comics. There are a few special exceptions to this, such as when the speaker is trying to make their speech coordinate in time with their actions to highten the drama a bit; a decent example of that in this comic was back when Math fought Concretia.
If Atomic Bombshell can actually throw attacks strong enough to take Maxima out, the only member of the team who stands a chance against her is Halo.
Thinking about that got me the following image.
Bombshell is summoning another big boom, and Halo yells out “Everyone get close to me!” The members of Arc-swat who are still standing rush over, and Halo flicks her shield off, then back on with everyone else inside it.
Boom.
When it is possible to see again, everyone is fine, and Sydney is holding the PPO. She sights on Bombshell. Then she shuffles to the left a bit, making everyone in the bubble move. She shakes her head and shuffles to the right, again with people tripping over themselves trying to stay with her in the confines of her shield bubble. Then she moves even more to the right. All this time Bombshell is summoning what looks like an even bigger explosion.
Sydney holds the PPO at arm’s length, and the safety is removed. Bombshell dives for cover just as Big Explodey Beam goes off…
And nails Green Hair, who was way back behind Bombshell.
And Sydney gets tried at The Hague for war crimes and murder
how does this follow. SYDNEY has an energy blast. A big one. But hitting another super in the middle of a battle should NOT be a war crime. Now Atomic Bombshell could be probably be charged with use of weapons of mass destruction in a criminal endeavor, attempted Murder using same, and they might well make up new ones. It is possible that there is a reason she is NOT using her overnuke or whatever it was called, just to prevent the mass casualties it would cause, and the worldwide manhunt it would trigger. Someone who did that kind of thing in a city could expect to face every weapon available to the US government. I suspect such a person would have to avoid large empty spaces free of people. Hiding in the middle of the Sahara, or some such would allow the possible use of Thermonuclear weapons.
Sniper shots in the the ear with .50 caliber, or even specially made 30mm guns would NOT be out of line.
I’ll give it to Phrasic Port-Man: Up close his outfit makes him look like a total putz, but he’s correct that the cowl helps make him look imperious.
Ah, I bet he ripped off that idea from Dr. Doom. It works quite well for him too…
can opal make portals inside people? and whats her range? because that crap can hurt, big time
just ask Wheatly
I think if she could, Green would have told her to attack Max. Probably the portal ends have to be in open areas of a minimal size as shown.
Pocket Nukes, Lasers… feh.
DaveB, you once said that speedsters are completely overpowered, and of course you are right, BUT…
If it was me, on this Battlefield, with Opal´s powers, the only members of ARCSwat still alive would be the ones who can survive being shot in the head with a .50 AE Eagle at point blank range.
“Only Small Portals”, indeed
Kind of disappointing with Mr. Tool. Seemed to have allot of potential but personality wise seems like a bit of a Dork. A trend I’m seeing fare too much in this comic.
Anyway, looks like the bad guys and girls have a plan and I doubt that nuke blast isn’t going to do anything if Max’s mind is off on something else.
Everyone (includes me) seems to be overlooking an obvious point. Opal does small portals for communication. Nothing says she cannot do LARGE portals for other reasons. Set up Maxima with a shape charge so that she has to deliberately take it and go upward to avoid reflecto-killing her team, then open a long range portal right above her that leaves her somewhere beyond the orbit of the moon.
I mean really. Every one of us wondered how they assembled all these villains so quickly. Portal Portal Portal. Just because she hasn’t shown off doesn’t mean she is a big gun, it could mean she is primarily a support villain.
Not a bad plan though she might have some limits on her portals that limit where she can port Max that said. I think they’ll likely need to use her and Greenie’s skills to bomb Max. Max’s reaction time is good enough that the she could normally avoid a portal opening up in front of her. That said if they disoriented her with a blast they might be able to knock her into one and out of the Battlezone.
Ether porting Max to the moon or mars would be a great way to take her out. Max may be OP but she still has to breath. Or just port her half way and suddenly close it on her cutting her in half!