Grrl Power #238 – Gain an ally, lose an ally
Well Jabber’s turncoatism didn’t last very long did it? If Pangolin Style is her high damage with medium armor and speed style, then Crusader Style is her high armor and damage style with low speed. Her powers obviously take her beyond what’s possible with regular martial arts, otherwise those pinballs would have hurt a lot.
Martial arts are a lot better when the moves have cool names. Jump off two walls before kicking someone in the head? That’s cool and all, but call it a triangle kick and now you’re cooking with evil gas. Heck, even call a regular punch “The Tooth Rattler” and it sounds more intimidating. That goes doubly when you move into fantasy martial arts. In fact I think it’s a requirement. Swords bounce off your skin? That’s the Iron Robe. Firing balls of ki from your hands? The Wave Fist, or you know, hadouken. Of course yelling out what you’re doing or about to do in a real fight is a good way to get a broken face, but in comics it counts as battle banter.
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They should hire Jabberwokky when she gets out of the hospital. She hams it up pretty well.
OTOH, one has to wonder how much of that is from Dabbler’s influence.
Ok I’ve lost count. How many supers have eye paint in this webcomic?
It’s more interesting that domino masks.
And safer. Nothing to slip or be grabbed in a melee.
But it does nothing against facial recognition protocols. And since we’ve seen those Arc combat glasses obviously had recording for the intelligence teams to do their analysis, I would expect that after the battle, any ex-cons among the villains, or any of them in any law enforcement database (among those who get away) will be getting a nice visit from the team.
There actually is some practical use to these beyond aesthetic and intimidation. If you’ve ever noticed sometimes football players have little black marks under their eyes, this is called “tan” or “eye grease” and what it does (which may not be so useful at night) is that it reduces glare from incoming light by absorbing it, of course darker colors, like black, work best.
These days, a plain domino mask does nothing useful to hide a person’s face. If it ever did. Face paint in a disruptive pattern does mess up video recognition programs somewhat. But people can still sort out the face by eye. So that’s a wash. Best bet to really hide a face is to hide it. A heavy mask, full-face armor or similar. Even Voodoom will be marked from the mouth down and by eye location, shape and color.
Heh. In a Champions game, my character had a Domino mask but also wore a false skin appliance under it that gave the appearance of age, tribal scars and piercings on the cheek. The domino was permanently glued to the appliance and that was held on by spirit glue (makeup). When asked if he wore a mask –yes. No one actually checked beyond the appearance (the in game assumption was that my powers gave the appearance) but it was merely a 13- skill roll in makeup. The domino was slightly wider than what would be usual with the eye holes further apart, added thickness to the nose and included a light mustache. It was intended to fool Las Vegas style face recognition…
My kind of player. Turn an old gag inside out and get some real mileage out of it.
I worked for IDA years ago when they got the facial recognition software contract from the CIA… turns out the thing you can do best to fool a computer isn’t a mask or paint, it’s a cold.
the sinus blockage pushes your nasal cavities and shifts the bones of your face, disguising you way more than a beard, a mask or paint ever could :)
It’s not necessarily paint. For example, it could be skin discoloration or tattoos.
Badly applied or smeared eye-liner?
Other options:
1) Gaining power caused permanent skin discoloration.
2) Using power causes temporary skin discoloration.
3) After gaining power, user decides to get tattoo and figures he or she is bad enough that he or she doesn’t have to worry about being easily recognized.
None of the above require eye-liner of any sort.
Best to do the announcements after the strike, like they do with samurai sword techniques.
“Crusader Style”. That’s an odd name choice where all her other styles were animal based IIRC.
I found it interesting that her bio only says “seemingly” themed around animals… guess this proves she’s more flexible than that!
I was also surprised, but I guess she was only going with a theme.
Also an odd name choice for a style used by a villain in the first place. She could have used “Black Knight Style” but she didn’t.
She had to change it, the Black Knight had better lawyers.
Cuz everyone knows that would be a flesh wound for the back knight hehe
Black Knight Style: No armor, high willpower/pain threshold. Possibly also caustic blood.
I suspect Black Knight Style would be all about ignoring lethal crippling damage, and continuing to fight anyways as though nothing had happened.
Crusader style on the other hand, probably doesn’t require you to actually be good, but rather, to believe you’re righteous, just like the real crusaders. In this case, she’s got the whole “protecting my new girlfriend!” thing going on.
Oh snap, I forgot that black knight :(
I’m sure he’s slightly wounded by your poor memory.
Just a flesh wound though
I’m totally comfortable with classifying Crusaders as villains. The First Crusade was a tale of massacres and cannibalism by violent barbarians killing and destroying anyone and anything they didn’t understand – which was pretty much everything – in the name of religious intolerance.
That is an oversimplification.
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Of course it’s an oversimplification. This is a webcomic comment section. That, however, is a right-wing propaganda piece.
Which don’t make it any better or worse than the “left-wing” propaganda it’s meant to replace.
Cannibalism? I mean, I’m not trying to romanticize the Franks (they did more than enough of that themselves), but cannibalism?
Yep.
Your “a tale of massacres and cannibalism”, however, makes it sound like the latter was widespread occurrence when it seems to have been an isolated incident perpetrated by fanatical hanger-ons that happens frequently during times of war when troops lack sufficient provisions*.
* Not that this justifies their behavior, but it does put it in perspective.
There is no cannibalism in the British Navy! Absolutely none, and when I say none, I mean there is a certain amount.
Depends how we kill ‘im, sir.
The lyrics to Buffalo Springfield’s For What It’s Worth come to mind here: Nobody’s right when everybody’s wrong. IOW, it’s unfair to single out one side as “villains” when both sides were more or less equally guilty of wrongdoing.
Well now I’m surprised. Those metal orbs made me fully expect some magneto magentism power without even considering other possibilities. Damn you movies.
Instead he seems to have plain telekinesis.
There is nothing plain about telekinesis. Why be limited to just metal when you can have that effect on everything?
You’re obviously right of course, but thats not what I wanted to express when I said “plain”.
If you compare the number of, well let’s just call them “supers”, who have telekinesis (usually any fantasy wizard, jedi/sith, professor X) to those with more specialized powers exerting physical force (like a warhammer fantasy firemage, Aang from the last airbender or, of course, Magneto) telekinesis seems to be a lot more common, less powerful and special and therefore less cool. In short word, it seems bland in
comparison.
Although IMO telekinesis is the most powerful power of them all. Never understood what kept the Jedi from unplugging the enemy mainreactors containment field….
The beautiful thing about space opera like Star Wars is that you can explain things like that away with a single line of dialog (“Will you forget it?! It’s magnetically sealed!” or ” This is beyond even my power.”) Or maybe they just couldn’t find the plug. Ever try following an extension cord through an unfamiliar apartment?
May not seem all that flashy at times but it’s not about the flashiness of the boat. It’s about how you use it.
Let’s use Silar from Heroes as a example. Lift someone up using telekinesis, not all that flashy shore. But using telekinesis to raise a bunch of glass shards and shot gun them all around a room to take down a invisible Peter. Now that’s impressive!
Professor X is “just” the top-level telepath, without telekinesis. His student, Marvel Girl had telekinesis and moderate-level telepathy. Still, when it came to iron, cobalt and nickle, Magneto was much more powerful than Jean Gray.
Magneto wasn’t just about metal either. He did some rather wacky things with Earth’s magnetic field too. Heck, he could even deflect Ice-Man and Storm’s powers by using a magnetic “globe” around him. He even blocked Rogue’s powers, and she works by TOUCH, and they’re always “on.” (So effectively he could even sire a child with her.)
If anything, Magneto’s power is UNDER-utilized.
Magneto’s powers varied a lot on how little science the writer for that particular story knew. “Iron in the blood” etc.
In terms of power and finesse in using those powers, he was generally more than a match for Marvel Girl/Jean Grey, despite her powers potentially being more versatile.
(Throw in the Phoenix force and all bets are off though.)
A similar situation was pretty much explicitly described in Spinnerette recently comparing Greta Gravity’s capabilities (effectively general telekinesis) with Colonel Glass’s (telekinesis only over glass but much more control).
Actually Jean was the (distant) second or third most power Telepath (without Cerebro she could only reach like Europe from the School) and the most powerful Telekinetic
Here’s a decent question: could someone with telekinesis pull one of Sydney’s orbs out of her hand? Obviously they probably couldn’t use it themselves since they’re tethered to her, but could they deactivate her powers by breaking the hand-contact she has with them?
Interesting idea. We may find out later.
More likely scenario are forcing her to let go of orb. I doubt max could grab the orb from her but there are plenty of places on the body where a little pressure will cause a hand to open assuming a TK could get through her shield.
I get the feeling the orbs can only be affected by her. Any Physical or mental attempts to move them would be a fruitless effort.
Max wasn’t able to move the orbs against Sydney’s will, and she’s got that touch-telekinesis thing that prevents, say, the bumper just breaking off an ambulance when she picks it up by it, so her super-strength is not just physical force but telekinetic. I think the orbs are the proverbial immovable object.
So I’d say that it wouldn’t be possible to pull an orb out of Sydney’s hand. Pulling Sydney’s hand off the orb, on the other hand…
Go back to the early pages… The Orbs will NOT leave Sidney’s area. You pull one of the Orbs to you, you get a face full of force field. And, give that, I doubt it’s possible to physically remove one from her grasp or visa-versa.
LOL, it would be really amusing if someone tried, only to find out that one of the mystery Orbs is an auto-defense mechanism…
They don’t have to be pulled to you, just out of Sydney’s hands, cause her to waste time trying to get them back again
Except that Sydney has telekinetic control over the orbs herself, so that’d be a battle of telekinetics, with the subject (orbs) being on her side
Yes, and while she and they are being distracted by you, someone else can get the drop on her
I think this is where we go back to ARC’s attempts to analyze the orbs. Other than visually & as a “bonking” mechanism, they appear to simply not exist – trying to grasp them with telekinesis would likely result in the TKer simply grasping at nothingness
Unless he’s just grabbing the rebar and the rest of the concrete is simply coming with it.
I doubt it there’s rarely rebar in blacktop and even if there we it’s usually long connected bars which would be visible along the chunks of ground.
A clarification:
Asphalt is mostly a mixture of gooey tar & gravel – too soft to make rebar useful. Rebar is set into concrete, to reduce concrete’s tendency to crack when the soil beneath settles. Still, a layer of rebar-ed concrete is frequently laid under a top-layer of asphalt, to reduce the size-&-frequency of potholes occurring, If this is the case here, then Kale’s scenario is still possible.
that’s more likely on an Interstate or freeway. The roads here are simple asphalt on gravel beds.
And you would still see sections of rebar sticking out.
True, barring Dave being lazy on the drawing them possibility. But that would be grasping at straws, thus I agree, it is far more likely that he has some ability other than being a clone of Magneto.
My first reaction to this was thinking Mr. Shiny Balls had some sort of gravity based power .
Telekinesis makes more sense though.
What about Geokinesis? The ability to control earth with ones mind? That would explain the metal balls and the way he clamped what’s her face in between what amounts to two boulders.
Correct and it’s a subset of telekinetic abilities. Whether geokinesis is the full extent of his abilities, telekinetic control of inorganic matter, telekinetic control of inorganic matter, telekinetic control of inarticulate matter, or even if he has full blown telekinesis remains to be seen.
I applaud the level of restraint in today’s comments. Two comments in a row about this guy and no one has sunk to the ‘playing with his balls’ level of juvenile humor (until now).
We lost our ‘budget Magneto’ name when he made an asphalt Oreo out of Jabber.
How about Mr. G. O. Mancer ?
that works. and *bops your nose with a newspaper* Bad O.B.Juan! We’ve managed to avoid that line for a week.
DANG, did sh just kill her?!?!? :O
Probably not, she still has the Crusader’s shield on. But still, that’s no good way to deal with a team member.
At that point, she was no longer a team member (if she ever was on the same team as Mr Green)
Not that they really cared too much about being nice. Maximum force and the heck with the consequences.
Which would make the major difference between the hero team and the villain team.
Amen.
She might not even be *that* hurt, depending on how good her shield is. I don’t see blood coming out of the asphalt juggle there. The force from that, I’d expect some spattering, at the least. DaveB isn’t that shy about showing blood.
“Team” seems like an awfully strong word to use with the antagonist side. A group of individuals does not qualify as a team, we’ve already seen two individuals decide that the whole situation is a big ol’ pile of bullshit and abandon the fight. I suspect we’ll see a few more people say, “Fuck this noise” before it’s all over.
It’s lack of a single word term for a mob of mooks, losers and weird boys.
How about ‘a Rabble’
+1
Serves her right! Being so easily manipulated like that by that four armed purple hussy, it’s downright shameful!
Fortunately her crusader stile is no match for a good telekinetic smashing. Ball bearings weren’t good enough so you just got to go with something bigger. Shame we don’t get a who’s who for Jabbs opponent.
I still wonder why he didn’t use his telekinesis on her.
Perhaps it only works on inanimate matter. But then he could still jank her around by her jacket…
and give Math a stroke when he wake up seeing her fishnet top ripped off
Possibly it’s not telekinesis but geokenesis that he has
*she
You were wrong either way: green hair is a guy, and it was he who slammed her between 2 slices of parking lot like a Crusader Sandwich
I ment the girl who looks like she was wearing a bathrobe, not green hair.
Crusader is an animal archetype. Afterall, Paladins are generally mammals right?
It’s more specific than the others she’s shouted. It would be like saying “German shepard seeing eye dog style” instead of “dog style”. …”Dog style” is probably a poor choice for a super power name anyway.
Having to call out a long name to power-up is also a bad idea.
Everybody knows that shouting a power name make it 50% more effective, its worth the risk of announcing your next move. xD
I know if a character I have in mind were fighting an energy style elemental, he would be shouting out mode change commands, warnings, and invectives like crazy. I’m more interested in him taking things down, not taking them out, and his shield would normally eat them for breakfast. The rest of the time not so much. Better to keep one’s opponent guessing.
Oppan Gangam Style! *Blasts target with a shockwave*
+1
Decepticon style: Blasts target with Shockwave, by throwing him at the target.
Just wait until Yorp hears you say that :P
I wonder if there are any supers doing pornography. That would make for a very relevant ability, I think.
It would certainly give Jabbs a free punch on Math in a rematch, and it just might get Dabbler worked up.
Okaaaaay, it seems Green Hair is a serious opponent. I hope Green Hair was actually intent on being a combatant, otherwise bringing him into the fight using Jabberwokky was a bad move. I suppose we will see.
Really hoping Jabbs’ will be okay after this, and the Crusader Shield prevented serious injury (just enough to smash the demon lust out of her
No, no, everyone knows that Demon Lust has to ooze out! Preferably over night and with many appropriate SFX. :P
You mean it has to be actively worn off? Preferably over night but not necessarily so? Easier done with the help of others with a gender of the victim’s preference?
Super battles: keeping the construction industry in business since the 1800s.
So far it seems limited to a single address location, maybe a bit of the opposing property. In regards to keeping down the collateral property damage, they’re actually doing a surprisingly decent job. They’ll probably have to bulldoze the entire restaurant site and build from scratch, but it’s orders of magnitude less damage than in ‘Man of Steel’ (even the Smallville scene).
Of course, now that I said that, Halo will probably oblasticrate the whole block on accident.
In Sydney’s case, wouldn’t “ORBlastricate” be a better word?
try to say that word ten times fast
that must be a challenge lol
well another earth user in a different way uh? hehe
and well was nice teaming up with you for those 5 seconds missy hehe
if the shield isn’t very effective i won’t bet on math to be attracted by her boobs after that treatment hehe
I don’t think that will stop him. I half bet he wakes up asking about her.
asking yeah… but will he still be interested if her boobs are ‘odd shaped’? hehe
Knowing him trying to arrange conjugal visits.
As far as storytelling techniques, this is probably a segue into the climax of the fight. Pulling away from the protagonist(s) for a bit allows them to dramatically re-enter the narrative. Betcha Max takes on one of them (the lady in blue would make for a nice blowing-robes cheesecakey fight, but taking on Mr. Green would be a better move for gender equality) whilst the remaining heroes tag-team the other. Alternatively, Syd could get isolated with one of them and have a big “who said I need rescuing?” moment after it looks like she’s about to meet defeat.
Syd did that with Shadow-Boxers crushed nuts.
RSS is still down, I think. Jabbs may have grounds for a lawsuit here: improper conduct by 2 arresting officers! :)
Umm. Not with Math, at least. She deliberately flashed him. Dabbler, on the other hand, definitely stepped over the line with the kiss. Even in countries where a kiss is simply a greeting, arresting officers do NOT kiss their suspects.
Not deliberate though, her top came open in the fight. She didn’t have any problems with that though, just with his reaction.
You miss a point. Both Dabs and Math are fighting Jabber not arresting her yet. And Dabbler is not even an officer. She’s a special consultant. Somebody else arrests them after she brings them down.
So. I guess he can play with more than just his balls…
(Whips out trombone) wah, wah, waaaaaaah.
*crickets chirp in an empty theatre*
ZZZ… uh wha’? Huh? Oh. ZZZZ
If he also starts playing with his wood, I’m outta here…
RSS definitely still down.
Just running behind for me.
Still monday’s
RSS is not working with netvibes.com
It’s been working fine with Feedly the whole time. For informational purposes only. :D
How about a nerd super hero that is based off of D&D 3.5, so you have a hero named, “The 12th Level Fighter” who has to declare his special maneuvers before he could use them, ala OOTS.
He’d probably call himself Master of Nine. I think that was the prestige class’s name.
Not sure if it is a wardrobe continuity error: but didn’t the buttons on Jabbs’ jacket get ripped off? She had to close up shop using the zipper
Maybe Dabbler did some quick tailoring with her other other hands?
Yes. They did get ripped, by her own claws.
She ripped off the buttons to get the drop on Math and then zipped it up with the zipper under the buttons.
Yeah, and now they are buttoned up again
Improper conduct..??
Am i the only one who would line up to commit a crime, just for the chance to be arrested by Dabbler now..? :P
What do you plan on doing that is so extreme that supers will have to be called in to stop you?
Dabbler plus handcuffs equals quite a long time getting to the stationhouse…
And the vorpal asphalt goes SNICKER-SNACK!
…
Oh come on, guys! Read a book some time!
Hey, he didn’t hit her with the Tum-tum tree.
I used to want a vorpal sword, now I just want some vopal asphalt.
I used to have a vorpal bunny cage on the back of my bicycle… (Cage for vorpal bunnies, not a vorpal cage for regular bunnies). I got some… interesting questions from LEO about it.
Coming full circle here:
(Emphasis added)
Vorpal: definition
adj. Sharp or deadly.
adj. Having a special power making decapitation or loss of a limb likely.
Yeah… Sorry but that doesn’t quite work. If it was vorpal asphalt she would be in really bad shape now.
I was a bad dice roller: My Vorpal Blade never went Snicker Snack, it just snickered at me…
I’d rather be Kit Katted, but those are o.k. too, I guess.
That’s the problem when you give your sword the ability to talk. “We’re fighting A Troll?! I DON’T WANNA GO IN THERE! Troll tastes terrible!”
Bathrobe-visor-lady also a telekenetic? I swear she’s gonna get a really bad name like Socker-Mom or something.
Also we might have been thrown for a loop when green meanie was using the ball bearings. We all wrote him off as a magnokinesis type. But he seems to have some wider power range.
That or he can grab onto the trace metals in the asphalt and is using THAT. Which would be horrible, but then why not go for the trace metals in bloodstream…. EWWWWWW.
Concrete is reinforced with rebar, steel rods, so it’s not impossible that he has control over metals. Full on TK does seem more likely though.
Concrete buildings are reinforced, most parking lots/roads are not
Oh good, TK powers are always fun to deal with….
RSS is working for my reader, just to let you know.
Humm is Mr black leather and mis blue robe and Brother/Sister act?
Or husband/wife.
I wonder if Green Guile (dunno, that’s what he reminded me of when I saw him) gets his nails did at the salon where the Mohawk Hairdresser works.
That’s the barberian. :D
I’ve always been befuddled why supers use telekinesis to smash their opponents with the ground/cars/other objects… if your opponent doesn’t have flight, give them flight… briefly… then it’s mostly just falling and smashing. Even if they are impervious to blunt force trama they’re out of your hair for a few moments while they’re comically flailing and yelling.
Everybody likes the idea of using Achilles as a club, but it works just as well with others. Even if they are not as durable. A TK user just starts smacking them into everyone else.
Or the old enemy shield trick.
One of the fun TK abilities in DCUO is to lift and hold your opponent off of the ground, and throw a car at them :D
or an explosive barrel,or a vending machine, pretty much anything that the player can pick up.
Yups :D
I guess he’s a Pinball Wizard?
I’m not so sure he has supple wrists.
How do you think he does it?
What makes him so good?
Throws by sense of smell?
Beat me to it.
RSS is working for me!
So is that lady actually wearing a bathrobe?
The Terrycloth Terror! Beware her fuzzy bunny slippers! (Haven’t seen her feet yet I don’t think.)
Ok Jabberwockey needs to become a permanent character too.
Well, DaveB did mention she was one of his original idea characters, before Sydney came along, so doubt he would be getting rid of her this easily or quickly
Did anybody else think “But the will of a Templar is stronger!”?
I suspect even if Greenie is technically hierarchically superior to the girl with the Ra markings, she might be the stronger of the two.
I figured out why a lot of RSS readers are having problems with your feed – XML parsers (which RSS readers are based on) need the XML version to be given on the first line. Your feed has a blank line on the front of it, so it finds the version on the second line, breaking the XML parser and in turn the RSS reader. Some readers still work (if they break a heap of rules), but most won’t work with your feed as it stands. You need to remove the blank line.
I should also mention that the cache is playing up a bit – anything other than an actual browser that tries downloading your feed seems to be getting the 4th august version (comic #237).
Absolutely right. The only RSS readers that work are those who don’t follow the rules.
I’ve modified my custom RSS reader to force it to ignore the first line (empty) and it works. Any reader that does what it’s supposed to do will fail.
little update: the cache has successfully cleared now, so at least I can use the feed again (via my feed fixer). Doesn’t help people without feed fixers though :/
I always imagined the game designers at Capcom walking through the office announcing thier actions.
“Lunch break!” “Toilet FLUSH!”
I’m curious as to what powers “Sally In a Blue Dress” might have other than showing leg. She has the requisite face paint, she’s cute and that outfits not action oriented, so she prolly emits brain scrambler waves or paralyzes with a glance.
Mind control does have a tendency to turn non-mooks into mooks.
Although it could be geokenesis instead… you know, just a possibility
It’s possible and would fall into a subset of TK. Whatever the extent of it’s power it’s definitely beyond that of magnetic control. Further demonstration of power are necessary before subset is reduced from the Geokinesis to Full TK range to actual ability.
Additionally it’s safer in a fight to assume your opponent’s powers are on the more dangerous end of a given power range. Opponent’s with multiple power not necessarily directly tied to each other (Dabbler, Halo, Dr Doom, Super Skrull, Mimic, Parasite, Amazo) are a game changer in that respect.
Boo. I’m really kind of disappointed at how quickly he handled Jabberwocky. Like, I know he is a, as Dave called him, ‘Major Player”, but still Math is supposed to be the third best(or something like that) on the team, and Jabberwocky only barely took him down due to guessing his weakness. So what does that say about this guy? He’d also have easily handled Math? Where does that put his power level?
Meh. I really didn’t expect Jabberwocky to take the guy down, but I was hoping for a better showing than that. I guess all I can say is “Oh well” and wait for the next page.
On another note, it interesting that she has a style called “Crusader Style” and talks like that. Perhaps she has a nicer side? Maybe she’s kind of like Math in that she’s just here for the challenge and, given the right scenario, could turn out to be quite noble. Then again that may also just be a hold over from when Jabberwocky was originally gonna be one of the main members of the team until she was dropped for… was it Dabbler? I forget who Dave said replaced her. Well I can always hope she turncoats for real later. Kind of like her design.
Math is extremely good at what he does. What he does not do however, is get squished by road.
Had Jabberwocky been quicker, she might have dodged the attack, but there is only so much a martial artist can do against someone with ranged abilities.
that and “Crusader-Style” basically turns Jabberwocky into a walking wall so she can’t use her more agility-based moves.
the difference between Max and math is like the difference between going across state and going to mars. besides the fact Math isn’t a main character means he’s only there to make other characters look good by beating him.
No no no, not ‘Wave Fist’! You yell ‘Chaka Chaka Bang Bang!’ Of course it helps if your codename is Chaka… :D And she also has a power-up phrase: she has a pair of magic gloves (Christmas present if you have to know) that require a verbal activation. She chose ‘It’s clobberin’ time!’ No one who knows her was surprised.
Yeah, I’d probably constantly want to do a Kamehameha if using a fire/wide beam ability. And if it worked in such a way that I could take longer and charge it up, I’d totally go for the Lina Inverse Dragon Slave (or Giga Slave, if you can get it up to nuclear levels of power).
Giga Slave is way past a nuke. A Demon’s Blood Talisman boosted Dragon Slave is a nuke. A Giga Slave can end worlds.
could go one better, ragnablade, wasnt that past gigaslave? and they had those spell enhancing weapons at one point
Yeah but Ragnablade and Gigaslave were L-sama’s spells. Even at partial power they were more powerful than an empowered Dragonslave. The biggest drawback of Ragnablade was never power, it was range.
True, but at the same time, power acceleration dictates that Goku’s Kamehameha’s could’ve destroyed solar systems towards the end, if he was so inclined. I really just think the speeches are badass sounding in Slayers, so they should be used for the big, slow buildup attacks.
And really, I was assuming that the cities in Slayers weren’t that big compared to modern ones, so a Dragon Slave would need some boosting (as you said) to be a city destroyer. Giga to me was bigger and better (so, hydrogen bomb level I guess). But really, we only saw the Giga Slave successfully used once (IIRC), and I’m not going with the loss of control, universe ending version :) Or the avatar version, for that matter.