Grrl Power #227 – Arianna uses Spin!
I was getting sick of drawing that building anyway. Individually Hex’s lasers aren’t all that strong, but the restaurant was pretty much a write off at this point. It just needed that final nudge. I’m not sure what Hex’s deal is with squirrels, maybe she had some past trauma with them. That or I just wanted an excuse to use the word squabies.
#MakeComics: Originally this page ended with Suzie’s line “She’s not wrong.” but my brain didn’t stop there and the waitress had to ask if she could sue the villains. That’s why the last two panels are so small. I had to crop stuff out where I could from the panels above, but they were already drawn, and I didn’t know how much space the word bubbles were going to take up till I got back from vacation as I don’t have Illustrator on my laptop.
After some intensive research (asking on Twitter) to make sure the waitress could really sue the people that cost her a job, (or at least a place to clock in) I decided to not only show the restaurant’s last gasp and the press, Arianna and the other civilians doing their thing, but also show Archon’s extended strategy for dealing with supervillainy, which is to make sure super power criminals not only will get their asses kicked and be incarcerated, but they’ll have their paychecks docked for the rest of their lives, especially if they do something grandiose like fucking up the Golden Gate Bridge or blowing up Mt. Rushmore in an attempt to mine all the ultra quartz from Lincoln’s nose or whatever. Probably not much of a deterrent to most villainous types, but I’d like to see Doctor Doom being forced to pound out licence plates for thirty years. Granted having to pay for damages would happen in civilian court, so it’s not like they could be incarcerated until they paid down their bill like some sort of debters prison, but it’s still a nice thought.
Edit: I changed the hair and shirt color of the guy who got shot in the back in panel 2 since people were confusing him with Math when he was blond. He’s just a scrub.
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Panic much?
HEY! She had every right to panic. I mean, it was a FRIGGIN squirrel!
All hail the All-squirrel!
https://www.exiern.com/2008/04/03/all-squirrel/
…maybe it’s a mini-manifestation of Ratatoskr?
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why, yes I do.
IT’S REAL!! They’re coming for us in the night!! https://www.kgw.com/news/9300-without-power-in-Washington-County-265534731.html
Run for the hills!
No, the squirrels are there too!
Run forSwim for Australia and Antarctica, they are squirrel free!O Achilles, how we love you
He’s master of understatement. Or way to used to having buildings fall on him.
Probably both
Considering he’s a stuntman both is a good bet.
Ok I think we may have the Devil’s Advocate here. Worryingly, in possibly more than one way. Could this be a sign of contagious super villainy? Has she been Hexed?
Or did the Squirrel do it?
I love how, in panel 5, it looks like the squirrel is shaking its fist at hex.
I zoomed in to see if perhaps he was giving her the finger, but, it does look like an angry little paw shake. Not sure, but he may be bleeding too. She could have grazed the varmint! TRY AGAIN! HE IS TOUGHER THAN HE LOOKS!
That is not blood.
It is the varmit going Sydney on Hex.
Never underestimate the power of the squirrel…The BBC produced two documentary videos, aptly named “Daylight Robbery,” that display the abilities of squirrels.
Do NOT relegate them to mere “tree rat” status; What other creature on this planet can run full speed, up or down a tree, with its nuts in its mouth?!!!!
I would be able to run full speed, up or down a tree, if someone else had my nuts in her mouth.
Yes, I had to go there. :-P
Yes, that is blood, Hex blood on that vermins chin
She destroyed his tree. His vengeance will be swift and terrible.
Budget-Halo indeed! Sydney set a whole forest on fire.
She is channelling her inner Halo. But hey hyperactivity gives her an initiative bonus.
She still blew up what was left of the restaurant, and left a line on Halo’s shield, pretty sure if there were more trees around they would be on fire as well (and this time, there would be witnesses, we ony have Sydney’s word that she set anything more than herself on fire)
I wonder how many villains she tool out of the battle
Caught one right across the kidneys. Good thing it cauterizes.
Am I the only one that for a moment mistook him for math?
Wrong pants
Actually I had to take a closer look for a second too. Wrong pants.
He is dressed all in black, at the moment. But, nope, you were not the only one. Until you asked the question, and got me to double-check, I was taking him as being Math too.
Nope. I was curious why Math wasn’t in the who’s who, alright.
Not in the least. I had to go back a few comics to make sure. Guy has the same hairstyle.
Clearly he’s Math-wannabe!
Math-lite?
Budget Math. Stick with the theme.
nah, Arithmetic… the stuff they teach little kids in elementary school. it’s nor Grown-up Math, yet.
Basic math…
remedial math
Common Core Math: A useless substitute for REAL Math. To develop REAL Math, it took several millennia of human thought & innovation. Common Core Math was cobbled together from the failures during the development of REAL Math.
message i saw in t-shirt a few years back
“I’m not a therapist, math can solve it’s own problems”
The Count!
Count von Count: Ah, ah, ah. Now, that was silly. Wouldn’t you agree, my bats? Ah, ah, ah.
Oddly enough, Count Von Count would get his addition math wrong with today’s “Common Core” standards…you can’t just count! You have to draw a lot of boxes and lines and things, or you get it marked wrong!
I swear, the Education system these days makes Lou Costello’s Math Skills look like absolute genius!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkbQDEXJy2k
7 * 13 = 28, brilliant
Can remember late brother telling me (or maybe it was mum telling me) how he would get into trouble for just putting down the answer, even if he got it correct (he had trouble explaining/showing how he got to the answer)
It’s like Tom Lehrer said in his intro to his song “new Math”: The objective is to understand what you’re doing…rather than to get the right answer!
As a hero, it’s not the case, but I’m sure the female members think about Mathias the same way Jimmy Buffett thinks about Mathematics..
Crystal Math? Except not as addictive.
It was my understanding that there would be no math.
just hard sums
nope. I was sure that was math until you pointed it out
shapeshifer perhaps? or math’s evil younger brother? some reason for him looking so fracking simmilar ¬,¬
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1380
Closest match to the guy with camo pants here, but a) different shoes, b) no gloves, and c) pants coloring slightly off.
D) this guy has ragged sleeves while that had a sleeveless t-shirt E) this guy is far smaller than the guy in Harem’s care F) The was no warning about someone escaping from Harem.
Even luckier is the guy right behind him considering the height of the beam that just barely missed him.
Just the one in front of Halo. At least I assume he is one of those still nameless attackers.
Her attacks seem to cover an area of perhaps 15° in front of her, so most are out of danger.
I love Arianna so much xD
Good, you can have her. She scares me no end and I find her the least attractive female on the team.
It’s not a matter of attractiveness. I just find her hillarious. Mentally she seems on a slightly different planet than everyone else.
the return of the caped guy who gives no f**ks
I dub her “Super Spinner!”
That is for Arianna! Red Cape can suck a lemon.
That could work. Life keeps giving him lemons and he just eats them because he gives no fucks.
+1 (^_^)-b
Alternatively:
youtube.com/watch?v=Dt6iTwVIiMM
Cave Jonson is awesome
And that’s the answer to “can Halo’s shield deflect Hex’s beams?” yes
Apparently it can. And after the opening pages of the comic, I would have totally thought he shield wouldn’t!
I think Dave pulled a fast one on us. Reverse Chekov’s Gun.
Tchaikovsky roulette. Like Russian roulette, but played to music and using cannons.
Everyone knows the Finale to the 1812 Overture (because of the big booms), but very few know that it actually has lyrics
It is SUPER LAWYER!
No, she’s The Sultan Of Spin!
Wait, weren’t female Sultans called “Sultanas”? o_O
Yeah, wonder how Ari would react once she figured out she was just described as a ‘wrinkled old grape’ :P
Go go Spinzilla.
she will be code-named PR mistress at least once she gets so excited the leather and whip come out
She shot everything BUT the squirel didn’t she?
Yes.
And now the sqirrel is realy pissed.
Now is REALLY when you should panic!
Indeed. I’m not afraid to admit being a bit freaked whenever squirrels decided to play chicken with me when I rode my bike, enough so they often won.
Of course, else it wouldn’t be funny.
Maybe it’s a ninja-squirrel, or a Jedi-squirrel.
“She shot everything BUT the squirel didn’t she?”Check out the squirrel’s chest. Looks like he could be bleeding. I think he got a full blast! But it does not seem to have bothered him. I think he is just about to go over and nut her!
I think he is sticking his tongue out at Hex. No wonder she missed. Her eyes are closed.
No, he is cussing her out in chitterenese.
Having hunted squirrels for food I can definitely say that they are very hard beasts to kill. I shot one 5 times in the torso and he still ran away in the treetops. I’m sure he died shortly after getting away, but still 5 .22 LR hollow point hits and he didn’t go down…
Aaand who is the caped striped dude in panel2 shrugging off lightbeam zots and looking all menacing?
I’d like a mega villain happy meal with a side of cheezy one-hits. ;)
He swatted Concretia aside one-handed. He is one of the big players Maxima has been waiting to see ooze out of the shadows and get swatted themselves.
It’s the same guy from here https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1311
He seems fixated on Max. I have a feeling we’re going to get either an evil former friend, or a “time for round two” from someone she’s crossed in the past. Maybe that guy that fought her to a standstill and she thought is dead.
Or else he saw her on the news and is one of the “Challenge accepted”-type villains?
Nah. I’m thinking that staring at her that long implies some sort of obsession/strong emotions, otherwise he’d have engaged her by now. It’s not like she’s doing enough fighting for him to get a feel for her power level.
ex-boyfriend from high school?
The pants look different. In the archive comic they’re just black, but in the current comic he has golden crescents on them. Either an oversight, or his pants are asymmetrical.
I think the crescents are just representations of either a personal shield, or more likely a form of energy absorbtion. They are concentric around the impact point of Hex’s beams.
It appears to me he is taking aim at Halo or the one keeling behind her.
Nah, he’s glancing over his shoulder to see where that pesky thing that’s shooting him is coming from, his body’s facing away from them.
I’m starting to think that Arianna might be the most dangerous person Archon has at their disposal.
Yes. Yes she is.
Of course, first you meet Maxima’s team in the field and then Arianna at court.
Guess which will hurt more…
Achilles when he is taunting you both on the battle field and in court.
Also remember Leon threatening team members way back when Maxima was after Harem. He quieted Maxima. He has the power of the internet to use against them. It appears they all have some kind of power.
At worst, Maxima can vaporize a bad guy. Arianna can insure they live forever, while paying restitution to their victims. For example, using their powers under contract to clean up after the fights like this.
The difference here is, Maxima dispenses pain that won’t last very long (seriously, the lady looks like she could easily be a flying case of shock and awe). Arianna dispenses humiliation, and one that will last for oh so long.
As we saw when Maxima delivered the super-wedgie, she is perfectly capable of delivering the humiliation as well as the pain.
Ohhh, That is a really good idea. Sort of like a work detail that fixes as much of the damage as possible.
That would make the comic more realistic also, because someone would have to guard them. Now you have “Extra Duty Assignments” to hand out to the members of the unit. Just like a real military unit. (I imagine guard detail a bit like real guard duty, where you are board silly, but you cannot let your guard down for a second with these super criminals.)
So, Arianna is a supper liar? No supper beam’s here, or is it mind control reality shift thingy? The fire coming out of her mouth worries me.
I imagine Arianna falls into the broader category of GOOD layers/attorneys/solicitors who use the cold, hard, pitiless, unadulterated EVIDENCE to put away crooks and exonerate the innocent.
Like a BOSS.
(comment was getting srs, had to lulz)
Is there such a thing as a ‘good’ lawyer? o_O
The one who hauls your fanny out of the fire is always a good lawyer.
Until they file a counter-suit against you
Well, you still have to feed them regularly.
I’d say the flames are artistic license. :P
I don’t think Arianna lies as such. She finds excuses and loopholes in the rules and exploits them with complete and total ruthlessness, but she doesn’t strike me as the type to lie on legal things; she’s too zealous in her lawful side there (I suppose she’d be lawful neutral in the D&D world).
She is offering to help a student, to prevent her becoming impoverished. Although she may not do this for free, it is unlikely to be a profitable exercise, when compared to other uses of Arianna’s time. Her merchandising and real estate investments will be far more lucrative.
Which means she is doing good. She is helping somebody, despite not having a particular vested interest in doing so. The only other one being that it will serve as a deterrent to villains, in future incidents. Which, again, is a good thing.
I agree though that Arianna’s extreme display does seem to focus more on the self-gratification from performing her job well, and does emphasise the enforcement of law, over showing concern for the well-being of the waitress.
Might I make a compromise alignment allocation of Lawful (Good)? Although Lawful Neutral is still on the cards, if the good aspects, which I argued for above, are co-incidental, and do not feature in Arianna’s decisions.
Yeah, Lawful Neutral sounds about right: she doesn’t care about Good or Evil, just the Law, kind of like a female Judge Dredd
You’re missing something! This is the first public super-fight… Arianna is looking to set a precedent. Most lawyers would stroll thru Hell, kick down the gates, nut Cerberus and pull out Satan’s beard to set this big a precedent.
Well the only president to be set is the principle that ‘possession of super powers does not alter the fundamental principles of law.’ But that is a biggie, so I concede the point. Mind you, although that weakens my argument, it does not dispel it.
The current action is supporting law, good and Arianna’s interests. Which precludes neither good nor neutrality as options. You can still do good, whilst also acting in your own self-interests. It will be interesting to see how she behaves in conflicted situations. That will define her better.
Mind you, I can see one of the reasons why she is getting so excited. Being Archon’s PR expert, as well as a lawyer. If she pushes it through fast, it will be the first action involving supers. And the defendants will be villains, not members of Archon. That is profoundly important in the public relations war, she is engaged in.
Arianna, LEVEL UP!: +1 strategy skill
She also gets a +1 to Diplomacy for the plantif being a civillian.
Lawful neutral with good tendencies?
And quite possibly the least stable. (And in Sydney’s company, that’s saying something.)
Something tells me that Arianna already had a contingency plan for the museum/franchise in mind as well as seeking financial compensation from the super villains. The waitress was like a puzzle piece falling nicely into place. We’ve seen as she gets one things go .
grrlpowercomic.com/archives/655
We’ve seen how she gets when things go according to her plans.
I just wonder how many casualties (and what exactly) Hex caused with that freak-out.
She’ll be sued out of her pants and top for sure.
I guess Arianna will even find away to grab off the Buster Buddies(TM)…
Yay! *Ahem* I mean, justice will be served. With a slice of cheesecake.
dabbler you didn’t need to use a fake name here
Someone found the gas line.
Or touched off the hidden store of explosives which always seems to be in every car and house in the movies. I especially love the cars which blow up while falling off a cliff before they even impact anything at all. But the restaurant which blows up immediately after the gas line is severed is really just as bad. You might get an immediate fire, sure, but that actually works to prevent an explosion by burning off the inflammable gas. Explosions are more for the slow leaks which allow a room to fill with a sweet, sweet fuel/air mixture before it reaches a pilot light or someone throws a light switch or something.
Or perhaps a restaurant that has had several walls knocked out over the last couple of minutes…
There appears to be a fire going on in the building. If you have a look back through the pages, after the fight moved out into the car-park, there is a panel which, in the background, looks like it is showing open flames burning from the restaurant.*
Plus the building is multi-roomed, and most of the fight has not been in the kitchens. So there is a reasonable possibility that the mains were already damaged, and had been leaking into a room, that is enclosed enough for a dangerous build-up to occur.
Which is when things are at their most dangerous. An open flame, in close proximity to a room with a large build up of gas. And then holes suddenly being blasted in it, allowing oxygen, gas and flame to all mix. To cap that all off, there are a lot of things in a kitchen which are explosive, in their own right.
Not least of which might be propane bottles. Possibly a large number, if they are not on the mains, after all. The kitchens may be mainly electric, but supplemented by gas. Likewise chefs are known to like using little hand-held flamers, to give some dishes an instant browning/caramelization. Which needs to be topped up from something.
But there are pressure cookers, the hot water boilers, various stocks of combustible materials, such as oil, custard powder, and so on. Just watch a few Mythbusters episodes for inspiration.
* My internet connection is running slowly at the moment, so I won’t attempt to look for it and link it.
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/1368
for reference
Who is the blond guy in the black shirt down by Halo? Also, I sense impending monologue from the cloaked villan who’s been poising dramatically most of the battle.
Just another unnamed mook who never got to show us his power.
Red Cloak has sone power, but he’s waiting for his cue. What that is i don’t know.
Well, DB has shown this nock off Doctor Doom is strong, Knocked that concrete girl into a different direction. Fast to be able to react to someone flying fast at them. Personal energy dispersion force field. And is watching Halo. If there’s a computer in that mask Halo may be in some trouble.
That’s Goose.
I think he’s a suporting Archon marine, not a super
We don’t know who the cloaked guy is, but we know he’s probably a very powerfull super who’s watching Maxima
Two blonde guys with black tops involved. Goose would be better described as being in black body armour. Which Harem brought him from the armoury. So the guy in the black shirt would be the shapeshifter/ illusionist attempting to impersonate Math. Who is fooling nobody, because of not matching the pants.
That might explain why Goose has him covered, despite appearing to be incapacitated by his injury, in preference to the brooding menace, also visible in his field of view.
Mind you, that might be sheer practicality. If the hooded menace is shrugging off Hex’s tree-destroying blasts, then Goose’s weapon will probably fare no better. Realising that the villain is too far out of his league, makes it sensible to avoid drawing his attention. Probably wise to stick to a target that does bleed.
Ok, that’s definitely squirrel phobia.
On a positive note, Halo sees what happens should she misuse her powers.
“What’s her deal with squirrels”?
Have you ever faced off against one of those little buggers? I mean, they’re terrifying! They can make a grown super hero weep and cower in dread!
Is it weird that I read that in the Seinfeld voice?
I. Do. NOT. Like. Squirrels.
https://www.dslretorts.com/Paladin/archives/002691.html
Why not? They make a lovely stew.
Dumplings, squirrel dumplings are just to die for. Even better than the chicken kind of dumplings. and if you get a lot of squirrels you don’t need to make as many dumplings ;)
Just leave your Christmas lights plugged in. It might annoy the neighbors for a few days to see your lights on in June/July*, but when the squirrel takes that first nibble of electrified decoration he’ll get a free standing on end hair styling, which may be his last.
* They won’t be terribly visible or annoying during the day, so if you do care about the tender sensibilities of your neighbors you can just leave them plugged in during the day only, and unplug them as dusk approaches. Squirrels are diurnal anyway, so you’re far more likely to have your lights chewed during the day.
Little buggers chewed through the neutral on my power line. The only thing left was the single steel core. They cause house fires. Tasty in a pot of rice, with plenty of black pepper and stewed onions.
A dash of Texas Pete makes it better.
Say, weren’t Math and Jabberwocky still fighting in said building?
Outside by the last check.
They have been outside for a while now. Last seen when Mach the Knife dodged around them.
I believe he traded out when Maxima to him to switch up.
However we have two instances now of him being taken down by random crap.
First, Sydney’s flailing orb, and now squirrel induced panic fire.
The downed guy by Halo is not Math. Wrong pants, different sleeves on the shirt and Duke is covering him. Not helping him, yet.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we came back to them making out in some secluded corner, away from the action.
Math: “So, do you know the nine arts dragon?”
Jabber: “You’re looking at her.”
Jabber I think is one of the ‘villains’ who is just here for the fight, not to actually raise hell and be evil.
I have a mental picture of everyone getting back to Archon HQ, and then someone asking, “Hey, why do I feel like we’re forgetting something?”, and then a jump cut back to the pile of bricks with Achilles asking, “Uh, hello? Little help here? Anyone?”
Dabbler, at least, owes him a beer or three.
Imagine him getting left back there, then the clean-up crew misses to dig him out and he gets dumped in a landfill with the rest of the wreckage. After which he either has to spend time digging himself out or just waits a couple of years, decades, centuries…
HAHAHAHA! I can actually see that happening as well! +1 to you, sir!
I’m actually picturing them doing that but the image is Math and Jabberwocky having dinner at this out of the way Japanese place.
Now I’m picturing Matherwocky going to that restaurant after it’s been rebuilt, because it’s their “special place”.
So this is it kids, the place where your grandma and I first met! And because of what happened here, is why we are going to tell you, what we told your parents. No one is worthy of marrying any of you, unless they can either beat you, in a fair fight, or hold their ground for at least ten rounds!
“but Granpa, did you and grammy meet fighting bad guys?”
No dear, Grammy WAS a bad guy.
Megan is really getting her money’s worth. When I read the patreon descriptions, I thought it meant a panel or maybe two cameo.
I think it’s because I responded the fastest, but yeah, I am so incredibly happy with all of this. I’m going to be a Patreon for this comic forever.
*group hug*
From what you’ve said you also made things very easy for Dave on the creative side. Whether that was intended or not you’ve made it much easier to get more face time with your “cameo.” Which, given your “use my face” requirement, is indeed a cameo. :)
Arianna needs the power to breath fire now,not only would it be awesome,it would give a good reason why she was picked to be the team lawyer.
Huh, now I can’t help but wonder if Hex ends up joining Archon…
I’m all for it! I think she rocks!
Join or go to prison? Could work.
But are Archon desperate enough for more Supers? And will people who are forced to join, be loyal, or will they just disappear as soon as they get the chance?
Prosecutor: Megan Jones, AKA Hex, AKA Budget Halo, is charged with aggravated assault on a federal officer, destruction of private property in excess of $5000, reckless endangerment, 3 counts of assault causing bodily harm, killing a tree protected by the endangered species act and removing a healthy tree without a permit, a municipal offense.
Judge: How does the defendant plead?
Defense Council: The defendant pleads guilty to to aggravated assault; not guilty on the other charges, as they were accidents.
Judge: So noted. Is there a plea agreement in place?
Prosecutor: Your Honor, the people are willing to drop the other charges in light of this plea. The people request 8 years incarceration in federal prison.
Defense Council: Your Honor. The defendant was under the influence of powerful mind-altering drugs at the time and she does not pose a risk to the community at this time. The defense asks for 2 years probation, with a condition of involvement in a drug rehabilitation program, Your Honor.
Ariana: Your Honor, if I may?
Judge: Yes?
Ariana: I am Ariana Mitchell, chief legal council for ARCHON. I would like to offer another option. 5 years probation, during which time the defendant is required to hold a position in the military, specifically as a member of ARCHON. I have an offer of employment right here.
Judge: Let’s see that. [ Ariana approaches the bench, and hands the paper to the judge. She then goes over to the defense council and hands him a copy. The judge reads the letter. ] Ms. Jones, do you accept this offer from ARCHON?
Defense Council: Just a moment, please, Your Honor. [ They finish reading the letter. ]
Hex: Um, yes. Your Judgeship, I accept the offer.
Judge: Very well. The defendant is sentenced to 5 years probation, during which time she is to be gainfully employed by the military, in accordance with this offer of employment. The Department of Corrections will assign a probation officer to supervise you during this time and you will meet with that officer on a schedule that the probation officer will determine. Case closed.
Just so folks are clear many judges love to give kids time in service rather than time in jail wish they wouldn’t do it but sometimes it is better than what could happen to them. In many cases they make fine outstanding citizens onces the Drill gets done with them in others they just become better killers.
You know what the prime reason for recursive prison sentences is?
Not being able to make a living in any legal way after having been to prison.
Prison turns small time criminals into big time criminals (because they have no chance of doing anything legal)
So the army sounds like a damn fine alternative
Hex: I object!
Hex’s lawyer: Huh, wha?
Hex: I am not “also known as” Budget Halo! That is a libel up with which I shall not put! Take it back, you harpy, or face the consequences!
In all probability it would be a deferred sentance, with the chages being dismissed on completion of her hitch.
Possibly.
After all, she has to prove that she is NOT a ‘Budget-Hal’.
Budget HAL:
“Dave, it looks like you’re trying to draft a letter. I can’t let you do that, Dave.
Click here to hear a song instead.”
No, that is a request for a spreadsheet laid out for financial projections.
Budget Hal: I can’t let you do that. You are working out the finances to get a replacement computer. That is something that I can’t allow to happen.
Ooh, I hope so! She’s too cool to just be swept off to jail, and she didn’t even want to join in the battle in the first place, it seems.
think of all the fun they’ll have with plushy squirrels
only if she puts her hands in the air RIGHT NOW and gives up. If she chalks this up as her ‘sobering moment’ and depending on how strong the mastermind is, she might get some leniancy in court.
….
I just thought of somehting, but I want it to be it’s own comment.
Actually Hex could get away as she is across the highway from the action.
No, the press is across the highway (for safety reasons, I am sure). Hex is at the edge of the parking lot.
Still far enough away to get away
And facing pissed supers on both sides, cameras and a really torqued squirrel… if she’s smart she’ll flee, turn up at Archon tomorrow claiming she was mislead as to what was going on, and volunteer.
If she’s really smart she’ll use the: “convinced to join ’cause they’re going to force us to register as lethal weapons — regardless of what they’re telling the newsies right now” argument and the “changed my mind because of lack of lethal force used in defense against greater numbers” counter-claim.
At this point I’d almost like to see Hex as a recurring character. She’s fun!
Agreed. Her and Heavenly Sword.
Hex, Jabberwocky, and Heavenly Sword seem interesting characters whom given the right incentive might pull a hell-face turn. Doom-lite, I have a feeling he will escape and return to plague them.
I was wondering if it was fair to make a witticism about gender bias, in that listing. But I think it is a reasonable summation of fan reactions. Mach the Knife’s problem being that he was immediately recognised as a serious threat, by the team. They could not, realistically, do anything other than prioritise taking him down, over all other targets.
Which did not give him as much of a chance to get the empathy going with him, despite showing off some of his power to good effect, before he was captured.
Perhaps an example of ‘bad powers’. Being so strong that the only realistic response, with any hope of a successful outcome, is to come down on him, like a ton of bricks!
That and his tactics were more that just someone spoiling for a fight. He tried to maim everyone he could get to even if his teammates got hurt in thee process. LPOC is a better contender for on the grounds of being taken out too fast to find out if he’s interesting. The first two bozos were more brawn than brain. Red Doom seem like he might have potential on either side but I suspect he’s gonna be more too hard to take down and will probably get away or something and potentially be a thorn in their side. Anima might be convertible but she might be able to escape and if she does she’ll be lying low. Pokey seems to be gathering data more than anything at this point and I can’t guess what he may do with it.
Mach came out of the gate like a rabid weasel. Just flat out trying to do serious damage. Backstab was his first maneuver. Not a stand-up brawler like the lady’s team. Heavenly Sword might have been trying for a kill with Dabbler but it was face to face.
The ton of bricks actually fell on Achilles over in the restaurant.
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+1k. That is one of the best ones, especially since I can hear it with the “commercial” voice.
Were you swept into the first supervillian fight ever and your are unhurt since the villians just ignored you ?
We can charge them for open discrimination since they apparenty did not treat you equally or consider worth enough to take notice of.
After this fight, Arc, Arc, Arc & Arianna might be a bit swamped for cases to take…They might sub-contract out to Dewie, Cheetum & Howe to take some of the overload.
Oh Car Talk. :)
Dewie, Cheetum & Howe is an OLD joke on lawyers going back to the 3 Stooges at least
Oh Sydney, Sydney. You and your music geekery when you have your shields up.
I like the pattern on Ariana’s vest, the contours follow her body, how do you draw it in? Custom brush? Or displacement?
Note: Doctor Doom is a bad example for many things about supervillains. I think he has one of the best powers of all throughout most of his history. Dimplomatic Immunity.
All they could do was declar him persona non gata and deport him and even then they would at least need the Avengers and the Fantastic Four to make sure he left.
I’ve always wondered about one thing with Doctor Doom. Why didn’t he send a super-powered ambassador to the USA during the whole ‘CivilWar’?. They rounded up even foreigners that didn’t comply with the registration. I’m sure he would have had fun creating an international incident just to get something from the US goverment.
Send an ambassador over in order to give any and all supers refugee status in his own nice little state. And when the US came to nuke them, he`d even be able to declare them war criminals (and retalitate with a fraking huge army of supers who don`t want to be slaves).
“…need the Avengers and the Fantastic Four to make sure he left.”
And even after they’re CERTAIN that Doom’s gone, he could find a way to sneak back in if he feels the need. Dr. Doom is like a rubber check; he always bounces back, even after an apparent defeat.
Make sure they have Security Squirrels at all points of entry :P
…that might actually work, since he’s scared of Squirrel Girl.
Sneak back in? He’d just have the Latverians declare him as their ambasador… AGAIN.
Dr. Doom rules Latveria.
Ambassadors need to be recognised by the destination country, in order to gain diplomatic immunity. Once they have been expelled, and declared persona non grata, it is extremely unlikely that they would be granted the privilege again. And, in the modern era, heads of state can, and do, get arrested and tried for past crimes, if they enter a country which does not consider them to have immunity.
That only happens to those who are out of office, have lost a war or are from a small “powerless” country. None of the big players would let it happen to anyone with any real power because of the potential backlash, and the bad precedent it would set for them.
on dr doom, his diplomatic immunity is actually played rather realistically, as far as i know. i remember a spider man episode with dr doom, and at one point captian america says, “He just shot a missile into the streets of new york. His diplomatic immunity is out the window”
of course it’s been a while since i saw that ep, so i might be wrong.
Wait. Syd’s Rules-Lawyering (Omnigal vs KopyKraut) isn’t based on an actual experience??? I’m shocked by this.
How do you mean? Her shield is obviously not invisible.
Sydney’s shield shows these odd patterns when it is struck, so it becomes locally opaque (or at least dispersive). I guess in a world of supers, it is enough to know that it’s a super power to say it works.
KopyKraut didn’t know how his shield worked, he wasn’t able to counter bluster Omnigal, Omnigal/Sydney only ‘won’ because KopyKraut didn’t call her bluff/argue well enough
Sydney’s argument was sound, so there was no bluff involved. Without sophisticated mechanisms, such as Halo’s shield appears to have, a laser should penetrate a force field which is transparent to light.
Plus the games master was wise to concede the argument. It is impossible to win against one of the world’s foremost authorities on the matter, which she certainly would be, by the time of that game.
We know that Sydney is a really bad liar, and good games masters can pick up on that easily. So, he knows her to be arguing truthfully. Unless he has Dabbler on speed-dial, to see if she was mistaken, it was sensible to accept her declaration as gospel.
With all the squirrelly carrying on, how did we miss this in the archive? https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/533
Very true. Although we miss the squirrel-Halo avatar, from the comments.
Arianna has the most power and and scary super powers of them all. Eager and Excited Lawyer powers!
Arianna uses Spin… it was super effective
She uses the best type of spin too. It’s not inaccurate, merely questionable.
I love the fact that, of all the reporters, we ended up with Suzie news and April O’Neil covering the fight.
That is Pinky from the press conference, not the Mutant Ninja Turtles’ sidekick. Besides, isn’t she in New York?
So, this is still relevant, yes? I mean, I know it was posted on the last comic as well, but it’s still important!! Right? :P
https://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=26;t=001121;p=0
And that is why no one messes with Squirrel Girl.
DB, Looked at that shortcut (Past Truma), uh, is this what passes for comics nowadays?
The future is going to be, well, weird….
What I would give to see is this red Doctor Doom having to hock off his lab equipment to pay those fines. Be like watching the Venture Brothers.
SUPER POWER JUDGE:
Judge who, in fact, has the power to detect lying. Can’t see the truth, but does know when there’s misleading, misdirecting and stuff.
DEBATE!
Everyone knows that lie detectors are inadmissible in court.
:)
That is only because they are unreliable.
The biggest issue I see with this is the lack of any means of independently verifying the usage of his power or the conclusions that he draws. There are bound to be judgement calls on shady areas. Say if somebody is being evasive, to protect some embarrassing aspect of their private life, but with no intent to pervert the course of justice.
But Super Judge, if he were not astute, might mistakenly take the evasion he is detecting as being that the witness is lying about the core matter, at hand.
Likewise a core tenant of the legal system is that, although we trust judges to be fair and impartial, we also recognise that errors of judgement can and do happen. So we have appeals processes and the like. But, who would be able to properly review and judge the merits of his detection and the conclusions that he drew?
As such, I think it would only work if that was a type of super power, that was common enough to allow at least two or three judges with similar capabilities. Without which, there can be no peer-review, and corroboration that justice is trully being served.
Who says Super Judge even needs to reveal that s/he has this power? As long as they rule consistently with the law it would be a great power for a judge to have as they would be able to rule against the lying liers and the lies they tell without even revealing that it was their super powered detect lies ability which led them to rule in a particular manner.
Sure, it will never have the drama or pathos of seeing the judge call out a witness by thundering at them “You do realize the penalty for perjury, Mr. Supervillan? You are under oath in this courtroom!” But then the judge would have to be able to prove that they had evidence of lying, and that would be a difficult thing. Instead Super Judge could simply have a long and honorable career as one of the finest judges the country has ever seen. Perhaps even make a real difference in a few key cases. And that’s not too shabby!
Actually the acused is not under oath. You do not have to testify against yourself
That could happen of course. But applicants are required to reveal conflicts of interest, or other facts which might compromise their capability of performing the role, or otherwise conflict with the process of administering justice. Which, for the reasons I stated above, it would.
As such, what you propose could happen. But it would be a villain, infiltrating the justice system, under false pretences.
And he might well get found out. All it would take is one person with a similar power to his own, or who is able to detect supers and/or super powers. Or even telepaths, empaths, precognitive or prophetic individuals, and so on.
Once he was found out, every decision he made would have to be immediately overturned and subjected to review. Rather than helping justice, his mere involvement might find guilty parties going free. And certainly would put a massive burden on the justice system, in order to rectify.
Right. Because absolutely nothing is faster at defrocking a judge than random individual X saying “The judge has superpowers! All their decisions must now be reversed!” Due process and even common sense are always immediately thrown out the window once that happens.
The presence of general super powers alone would not invalidate their position, true enough. The fact that they failed to declare a conflict of interest, say in a case determining if supers should be treated the same as everybody else, under law, would.
If that had not happened though, you are right that the higher bodies, which adjudicate over judges, would need to specifically know what power he had, in order to assess his or her suitability as a judge.
Obviously if the detector only had a crude capability and just knew the presence of a super power, versus the absence, then Super Judge could just be bullet proof or be able to fly. In which case he could just refuse to say what his power was.
If, however, he was confronted about it and asked directly if his power might influence his job, then he would be obliged to reveal the truth. Or lie, and face the possibility of not just loosing his job lager, but going to prison for perjury.
And, of course, a sophisticated detection power will reveal details of the power, not just whether there is something or not.
Finally, you are right that some random person making the accusation would not have the judge instantly defrocked. Nor would somebody saying “I witnessed that judge murder somebody”. But due process will be conducted, for either situation, and result in justice being carried out.
At the very least, in either circumstance, he would be barred from sitting (ie. actively judging a case) until the claim was substantiated or overturned. For the sake of public confidence, if nothing else.
Ahh, re-reading my earlier post, I see how you were picking up on the use of “immediately” there. I stand by my statement, given that it said “once he was found out”. It was fair of you to pick up on that point, given the ambiguity of it.
To clarify though, I meant by the legal justice system, as opposed to simply the accusation being made. Depending on how the jurisdiction involved handles such things, it could literally result in everybody who was imprisoned by him being released immediately, until they were re-tried. Subject to the usual haggling over risk of flight and bail.
Or, they might remain in jail until each case had been assessed. However, the word instant is appropriate, given that the moment it is agreed that his/her judgements were all unsound, every case he sat on would be considered unsafe. As such, with immediate effect, none of the defendants could be considered guilty, and would be re-classed, at worst, as being on remand, awaiting trial.
Unless they had been executed. Then apologies might be in order.
Oh, heck, is our red doom a villain recruiter? You know, watching who survives. That would explain him just watching. Of course, when I think about it, until he does, something, he/she (Cant tell with a that armor.) that one is just a bystander. Red doom is dressed up, sure, but not doing anything illegal, if someone from Arc attacks could they be sued for assault? In short the same laws apply yes? Kind of funny when I think about it.
(Voice of red doom) “Who, me? Just passing by, just watching the show, after all I can’t help that’s vigilantism, no, I don’t think I have to give you my ID, this is a supposed free country you know. Just a sec while I speed dial my lawyer.”
I had this same thought. He hasn’t taken a single step so far as I can tell. He has done about as much as the guy hiding by the tree.
I hereby dub the tree hiding person ‘Lurker’.
It appears to me he is extending his arm towards Halo.
Nope, arms are folded across chest.
Tho “he” does seem to be checking out Sydney’s butt.
Perhaps he is just trying to place where he has seen Goose before? And is forgetting about Duke Nukem.
He has committed one act of battery, against Concretia/Anima and a good lawyer could probaby get him off that for self defense.
An even better lawyer will turn it around on Math/Archon
I’ve got feeling he’s just biding his time until Max comes into range. He seems to be extremely strong and durable but seems to lack any kind of mobility power.
Possibly. I think a big part of this battle is likely to be an information gathering exercise. The hooded menace is just biding his time until he has decided that there is nothing to directly threaten him. Once he has done that, then we will find out his true power.
Note that Maxima came down very close to him, when using Achilles as a bowling ball. So, if he was itching to get into the fight, he could have done so then. But was content to just bat Concretia, out of the way, and simply carry on watching.
I have a weird idea to run past you about Red Cloak. He is unnoticeable. Not invisible but as long as he is passive nobody sees him or otherwise senses his presence. We get the privileged view of outsiders and since he is not transparent can see him.
Reminds of an old “Ballad of Halo Jones” character who could do just about anything he wanted because no one noticed him (well, Halo did, but only for awhile).
Yes! Totally remember that character: had had so many gender reasignment operations that even shi couldn’t remember what gender they were originally (can also remember how they died :()
BREAKING NEWS: Super-villains pay off fines with ill-gotten gains due to legal loophole! Courts powerless to close loophole due to political pressure!
Looks like the red cape guy is deflecting the laser shot with his crotch….
really? looks to me like it’s hitting his hip
I see no reflection… He is absorbing lasers with his crotch….
How is that for a super ability
“Can Absorb Energy Beams with Crotch”
To me, it almost looks like he’s peeing extremely forcefully…. that would be an even worse power, I think.
I dub the cloaked villain the “Red-Cloaked Poser!”, due to the fact that he is wearing a red cloak and has been posing all of this time…
Lawyers, the kryptonite of all supers. Whether good or bad a lawyer will always find a way to sew your ass.
That sounds… painful. =oD
“Now you will feel the power of attorney!” I so miss Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law.