Grrl Power #198 – Sydney’s a what?
Like I said under the last comic, biggest reveal yet! I’m a little nervous about this one, but hopefully there won’t be too much gnashing of teeth and lamentations. Some people aren’t so keen on vegetarians and vegans, but really that’s because there are some of them who won’t shut up about it and endlessly try and convince you that having one more bite of your hamburger will give you soul cancer. Sydney is obviously not one to make a fuss about it. There’s been scant evidence in the comic to make anyone think she is a vegetarian, except I put little tofu cubes in her meal back at the King of Siam restaurant… although looking at that page now, you can just see one cube and it’s bright red from the sauce.
So anyway let me explain. When I started the comic I wanted to avoid a few common writing problems and two I knew of were 1) the man with boobs feminist for Maxima, and 2) obvious author insert. I knew Sydney was going to be very nerd literate and very A.D.D. like me and I wanted some characteristics that set her further apart from me. I’m not nearly as hyper as she is and obviously I’m not a gal, but I wanted some other differences, and I am very much not a vegetarian of any sort, so I figured, why not. While it may seem that it hasn’t affected her behavior in the comic so far at all, I actually got the idea that she started eating spicy food as a way to replace the loss of “savory” as she weaned herself off of meat. That’s right, despite having already named her Scoville, (which I did because I have that same naming alliteration sickness that Stan Lee has evidently) her affinity for spicy food came out of her being a vegetarian. Since I’m sure people will ask, the particulars of Sydney’s diet will be covered on the next page.
I made this page much harder on myself than it needed to be by including Gwen in it. I could have easily kept this scene between Sydney, Peggy and Goth Harem, but no, without Gwen I couldn’t use the phrase “The Hot Topic twins.” Oh and I know I said that all the pages up to 200 had a mini comic under them, but for this one apparently I was thinking of the intra-page mini comic (panel 6), but 199 and 200 definitely do.
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return of THE LIST
Love that oh crap look from PurpleHarem. (They really need to be colour coded for your convenience. )
No, this one is Gothette, not ‘PurpleHarem’ :P
Where’s the “dun dun daaaaaaaaaaaa” you get when something shocking, frightening or unexpected happens, or the Spanish inquisition turns up, but that’s usually followed by the line ‘nobody expects the Spanish inquisition’
What is the rule if the Spanish Inquisition turn up dressed as ninjas?
‘Always expect the Spanish Ninja Inquisition’
Or ‘Nobody expects the Spanish Ninja Inquisition’
…Or perhaps, “Nobody expects the Spanish Ninquisition”
It had been missing for far to long.
Bwah-ha-ha-ha!
Harem has just earned the unique status of being the one person to get on Sydney’s list 5 times…
Oh Harem, Harem, Harem, Harem, Harem… (yes, it has to be said 5 times). You really are terrible.
And a great use for Lighthook there, Sydney! And Max’s reaction as if this is all normal makes it all the more funny. Loving it, Dave!
Not only does Harem’s name have to be said 5 times, now it it has to go on “The List” 5 times.
Oh, and the lighthook?, love how it’s Harem who’s upside-down and trying to keep from flashing everybody. Not what I would have expected of her, nice touch.
Clearly, she’s not wearing panties.
And how is that a problem for Harem? Anyone else, maybe – but Harem?
Because, even if she didn’t mind flashing her goods, she’d get in trouble for it?
I think Max’s reaction is more telling about her trust & familiarity with Peggy than ignoring Sydney’s strangeness, and Max, like any good combat leader, can make quick judgements about tactical situations. Peggy is unconcerned (& armed), so the situation doesn’t require intervention. Also, FUNNY!
Agreed: Maxi is concerned (like any good leader should be), but not overly concerned because she knows Peggy is armed (and trusts her to be able to handle things)
I read it more as though Maxima trusts that Sydney isn’t a psycopath and won’t be harming anyone. She used the “Eh. Peggy is armed” response to display her non-concern about the entire situation.
She’s getting serious, she’s got all her orbs out
….you know, I don’t think I’ve ever seen her take just one out. Maybe when released, they al come out, regardless of how many she needs?
Also, the Lighthook could’ve been at the bottom, requiring the others to get out of the way so she could grab it.
HMM, very interesting!
Interesting. So long as Sydney doesn’t turn into a preachy vegetarian telling me about how bovine Jesus died to make my Ribeye I’m cool with this development.
+1
considering how they wre both ripping on the preachier Vegans (and pregnant women and pretty much anyone who WON’T SHUT UP) on their way to the restaurant?
Wait, what? When did we see them on the way to the restaurant?
Different restaurant. Before the press thingie.
What Kalietha said, they were looking for something to replace Sydney’s lost lunch (the one she lost on Max’s boots outside the bank). They ended up at Fusion where she had the noodle incident when the noodle laden with weapons-grade hot sauce got in her eye.
Actually, she lost her lunch inside the bank, which is why there was the sudden evacuation.
The restaurant within the civilian side of the ARCHON building
See the link DaveB included in his under comic comments.
What a clever pseudonym n0mn0m_de_guerre. And most appropriate for this topic. Which begs the question is a nom de guerre something suited to a vegetarian diet or a carnivorous diet? The war association implies the latter, but I would not want to accidentally become a vegetarian, if I guessed wrong! If they are like cookies, then they can be considered an ‘honorary’ meat, for these purposes.
Yeah, if I have to give a vegan a hard time about them *being* vegan, it’s because their being too pushy about it already. In my case, I may focus on insulting the status of being vegan, but it’s more of a matter of pointing out that they are *overly obsessive* about it. One of the best ways of pointing out an obsession for what it is, is to focus on the topic of the obsession itself.
If Sydney’s serious about her vegitarianism, then remember that animal products are EVERYWHERE. Including places you wouldn’t expect like candy or bread. It’s not just a matter of avoiding ordering steak. If she’s serious about it, then she’s gotta examine the ingrediants of everything pretty closely.
It very much depends on how strict a vegetarian you are. Animal acquired products =/= eating meat to my mind, but then again I’m not vegetarian.
It’s partly the economics of it really, for a start some animal products are very, very important – for example insulin used to be only available from pigs. Secondly most of the value of the animal is the meat, the derived products are simply to extract all value from what’s left behind after the valuable meat is gone.
Some interesting points you make there. But of limited utility for a carnivore, like myself. I am very much of the opinion that if God did not want us to eat animals, then she would not have made them out of meat!
*munching on a burger, held between both forepaws*
Now take this, for example,
*waves half-eaten burger around*
By wrapping vegetable matter around the proper food, you add interesting flavours to it, but can still remain a strict carnivore. Because, surprisingly enough the definition of a carnivore includes the fact that a certain proportion of non-meat is also eaten in the diet. So although dogs are carnivores, we fall short of wolves who are actually Hypercarnivores. And even they can flavour up to 30% of their diet with non-meat and not loose their classification!
Thanks DR. REVENGE, that Tasmanian Tiger burger was an unique experience! Of course carnivores do not make the best eating. And build up dangerous toxins if you eat too many of them. But nice as a one off. Here, try a burger made from one of my own extinct-species rebreeding programmes. Strictly for scientific purposes of course. But feeding the hungry is a good cause too.
*offers DR. REVENGE a gigantic juicy-looking and delicious-smelling burger*
Now this is from a delicious tortoise that was so yummy, that even the scientists who discovered it, could not resist munching on it, long enough to even name the species! Ate every last one before they thought to call it anything other than “dinner.”
A burger requires being an omnivore, not a carnivore. While dogs WILL jump at the chance of gobbling down pizza, a true carnivore’s digestive system doesn’t handle plant products all that well.
On the plus side, you can then legitimately blame the dog in certain…aromatic situations…
You miss the point I was making. Whilst you are partially correct, in that some carnivores (such as cats) cannot gain nutritional sustenance from non-meat, this is not true for all carnivores. Because others (such as dogs) can. The former are obligate carnivores (or hyper-carnivores by the previously mentioned classification system). The latter are more adaptable and are called facilitative carnivores to reflect this. Yet they are still called carnivores. So burgers are an acceptable foodstuff for dogs, if not exactly recommended eating.
Sadly, I know that dogs can actually survive on a diet of mostly vegetable matter. Other than a few unwanted bones and scraps. Given that many of the households around me are too poor to afford regular meat for their children. Let alone for dogs. Here day-old bread is called ‘dog bread’. Simply because it is ubiquitous that the dogs here are fed on that.
As a result of which you can easily distinguish the poorer households, because the dogs will be very much leaner, smaller and poorly developed, as a result of the malnourishment. And usually die well before their time. Most of the locals did not even know that dogs could live as old as mine (fourteen years). Let alone still look like a young dog at that age.
It’s this very reason I can’t understand the mentality of a vegan…Evolution selected in favor of humans being *omnivores* insofar that we *require* nutrients from both animal matter AND plant matter. Self-professed vegans are deliberately *choosing* to be malnourished, even against the nature of their own human metabolism.
Please take note that I don’t put down vegans simply because they ARE vegans…It IS a matter of individual choice & I respect that…I put down on those vegans who obsessively go on about how being vegan makes themselves “superior” or “more self-righteous” than those of us who recognize humans as being omnivores. It’s the *obsession* I rail against.
That can depend a lot on WHY someone is vegetarian.
Oh sure, it’s just a lot of non-vegetarians don’t realise how widely animal products are used, like animal products turning up in wine for example.
So it’s up to the author of the comic to decide what kind of vegetarian she is. She may be just a don’t eat mammals kind.
I think that’s a pescatarian or something. If you eat fish or birds, you’re not a vegetarian, you’re just picky.
(I don’t eat seafood, but that doesn’t make me any sort of vegetarian either. MMMMMMM mammals)
You’re right, pescetarian is essentially a vegetarian that eats fish, not sure if there’s anything for birds though.
A family friend of mine is a vegetarian that wore real leather. He had no moral objection to meat, he just disliked the taste.
My little sister is that way also. My father, a single dad without a lot of cooking skills, provided us with a lot of greasy meats when we were kids. Rejecting these as disgusting to her, my sister because a virtual vegetarian. I followed her down that road a bit, but not as far. I won’t eat any poor grade of meat such as a hot dog or scrapple, I only eat beef perhaps once per month or less, and I avoided sausage until I married my wife who is of Italian descent, and after a bit of education I learned that a high grade of sausage is fine. I still avoid things such as “Jimmy Dean” sausage, or any other grocery deli sausage which is of dubious origin.
One of my neighbors is rearing a bambi in his garden. Which is awfully cute. So I like petting it. But I shall not get too attached. He is a farmer, so I doubt he considers it a pet. And I am not squeamish. If he offers me bambi sausages later, I will not turn them down.
MMMMMM venison sausage, my favorite breakfast.
With a bright eyes and Thumper pie for your evening meal?
Bright Eyes: warning, do not show to vegans or animal lovers or children under the age of 30
we raise Thumpers for sale and food actually.
My granddad did too, but originally just to keep food on the table during rationing in WWII. And only on a small-scale, rather then commercially. Along with some geese. Which my mum claims were better guards than dogs!
I agree with your mom. Geese start honking immediately, and a whole gaggle of them is louder than a dog any day. Plus, geese bite, hiss very intimidatingly, and they are quite aggressive and know where and how to attack.
Personally, I find them evil. Got bitten by them when I was small, perhaps that’s why.
Do note Sydney said “vegetarian” not “vegan.” As I understand it, vegans consume no animal products, but vegetarians consume milk & other similar foods. Also pertinent is whether Sydney is vegetarian for philosophical or nutrition reasons. We shall find out eventually.
Yeah, and we know she’s got no problem with eating cheese; https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/589
That’s veganism, not vegitarism.
Vegans don’t drink milk because it was produced by a cow. Vegatarians are actually reasonable when it comes to food
I was refering to vegetariansism.
And they tend to not have a problem with animal products, they just won’t eat something that used to have a face
Actually, vegans don’t knowingly use ANY animal products. They go out of their way to avoid WOOL (which is sheep hair, it doesn’t hurt the sheep in any way. In fact, shaving the sheep actually HELPS them.) Vegetarians don’t eat meat or seafood, although depending on the fanaticism, some can enjoy dairy products as they see milk, and unfertilized eggs as not killing anything.
The preconception about vegetarians being “weak” is that it’s rather difficult to build up significant muscle mass on a vegetarian diet. Building muscle mass requires protein, and the only reliable source of proteins in a vegetarian diet is soybean. Eating too much soybean creates its own problems. I should know, I developed an allergy to soybean and it causes extreme GI distress in my case.
Was talking about vegetarians
Some vegans are fine with wearing wool. The word “vegan” is a bit vague – dietary vegans don’t eat any animal products, while ethical/environmental vegans avoid the use of animal products.
Don’t forget mushrooms and legumes and beans! Soy isn’t the only source of protein in a vegetarian diet, just the most common (and one that can be re-flavoured to taste sorta like meat).
From my Vegan daughter I found out that there is a trinity of beans, corn, and rice. Combine any two out of the three and you get complete protein. The balance will be off compared to animal protein but you will get all of the vital amino acids needed to survive and rebuild muscle. People with soy allergies need to know this so they can get all their nutrients.
She should also know that the human body requires vitamin B12 to avoid a host of medical issues including mania, depression, anemia, and permanent damage to the brain and central nervous systems. B12 is only “naturally” available through the consumption of meats, which is the strongest argument against a vegan lifestyle. How can a lifestyle which will inevitably lead to severe medical issues be “good for you”? It cannot. Unless vegans are very cautious about supplementing the nutrients needed by the human body which the vegan lifestyle does not provide, they are doomed to face these health issues, some of which can be permanent and very damaging.
Humans are omnivores. Trying to deny that is not only telling yourself a lie, it is not healthy. Veganism is not a healthy nor a natural lifestyle. We need some meat in out diet, by our biology. It’s fine to cut down, we in the US have access to and eat more meat than is healthy, but eliminating meat from our diet is not the answer. The 16 oz. steak can be dispensed with, we can easily get by with 4 oz. of meat per day. Replacing all meats with fish in addition to reducing the intake overall would be a pretty happy medium. 3 oz. of Mackeral is 279% of the daily required amount of vitamin B12.
The problem is that it takes a couple years for the symptoms caused by a lack of B-vitamins to start showing, for most people. So they spend two years not getting them, thinking they’re fine, and then everything goes wrong.
That said, there ARE a couple ways to get B vitamins from plants, we just don’t absorb it nearly as well.
The point is moot for me, however. I have an inherited problem absorbing b vitamins; I can’t seem to get them from pills or plants at all. Lots of red meat helps. Interestingly, I also absorb it decently from Nos, which is why I drink it. But because of my issues, I know pretty quickly if I’m short on b-vitamins, because I get incredibly light sensitive within a day or two. Makes it pretty obvious XD
“That said, there ARE a couple ways to get B vitamins from plants, we just don’t absorb it nearly as well.”
And you’d need to eat massive quantities of it to get the daily recommended amount in any case, since your typical serving of non-meat foods which do provide some B12 is usually in the 10% range.
I never said it would be easy XD Well-nigh impossible for me, with my issues, but the average person could pull it off if they were really determined.
The one vegetable which covers the majority of nutrition required by a human is the potato. A lot of Irish had it as their staple food. Which is why the potato blight caused such devastation. The other problem is that some of the nutrition is only in trace amounts. So you need to eat a lot of potato to bring the levels up.
Even then a single-food diet is always a really bad idea, blight or no blight. But if you were in a survival situation on a desert island, with only enough fertile soil for one crop, go looking on the shoreline for some potatoes to plant.
Funnily enough, the potato contains more vitamin C per unit weight than an orange does. The main limit there is cooking the spuds before eating them.
A complete protein can be obtained by eating any legume (peas, peanuts, beans, soya beans included) and a whole grain (wheat, barley, rice, corn, oats, etc.); each provides different amino acids which your body can use to make your animal proteins. If you use a highly refined “white” grain, then most of required nutrients have been removed and it is less able to provide the needed amino acids. The vitamins and minerals come from the other vegetables you eat.
The idea that vegetarians have trouble building muscle is a bit of a misconception. I mean, look at me, I’m vegetarian and I routinely punch nuclear submarines out of the ocean and onto mountains.
And I happen to know a vegan who can beat ME up.
And then there are veganitarians. Those are cannibals that only eat vegans.
Interesting diet. And a healthy one! Well, when compared to strict cannibals that is. The more of your own species you eat the more toxins you build up. Restricting yourself to eating vegans means that they will not be heavy in the toxins that come from eating, say, a predator-heavy diet. Or, even worse, eating other cannibals. Which is a fast way to die an unpleasant death from poisoning yourself. Not to mention the mental health issues that go paw in paw with such behaviour.
This line of logic reminds me of another comic https://partiallyclips.com/2003/11/30/bounty-hunter/
Heh! Nice comic you linked to…I made a point of bookmarking it just so I could do an archive-dive during the weekend.
I’m reminded of a demotivational poster of a cow standing in a field, captioned: “Vegetarians – My Food Poops on Your Food”
Which itself is an extreme version of people who eat only vegitarian food.
I’m one of those. This burger used to be a cow, and that cow was a very strict vegitarian
And remember it is not Cannibalism if you can prove that you are not of the same phenotype as your food :P
*building a dream-catcher*
Purely out of curiosity, and with no ulterior motive, what phenotype would you be?
*whistles innocently*
You’re confusing a vegetarian with a vegan. While vegetarians refrain from eating meat, often fish and sometimes eggs, that’s pretty much it. A vegan will refuse all animal products and will encounter the problems you describe.
Nope, that would be a Vegan.
Vegetarians do eat some animal products, such as ice cream, milk, cheese, and eggs.
Vegans, however, do not eat any animal products.
I know a bit about it all, because I used to be a Vegan, and for my own personal health issues, could not continue with it, so stepped down to a Vegetarian, and back to a standard omnivorous eating plan. Unlike most, I had a doctor and nutritionist monitoring my health every step of the way, and when my health became poor, they both recommended I go back, and helped me get there safely.
When I become too glutted on the reds(I cannot refuse a good cookout with friends), I flush it out of my system with a temporary Vegetarian meal plan for a while until I feel better, though usually in general, I eat a balance of the two, and also incorporate both my Korean(my more Sydney-like side. I could so recommend many hot sauces to her) and Polish heritage by eating balanced foods from both schools of cooking.
My Brother was a Vegetarian for a while, and makes a killer lasagna that you’d swear was not a veggie dish.
It all just depends on how it’s done. BTW, Italian and Asian cuisine is by far the easiest to adapt to a vegetarian lifestyle, and made right, can be tasty for most palates.
Just my 2cp.
That’s vegan, not vegetarian. Most vegetarians are just fine with some animal products (like dairy, and unfertilized eggs). Vegans are the ones obsessive about only eating plant-based stuff.
Just to clear this up for some people who might be reading, I’m pretty sure the “animal products” being referred to are things like rennet or gelatin. That is, animal products that require the death of the animal they are harvested from. This is obviously relevant to moral vegetarians, but not to strict dietary vegetarians in most cases.
Going back to rennet as an example, it’s found in many cheeses. Making many cheeses unsuitable to moral vegetarian consumption.
Not to mention the milk itself used to make the cheese
For those not in the know, to continue producing milk, a cow has to continue creating calves to the tune of about 1 calf every year to eighteen months. Those calves end up having to go somewhere, most typically to the slaughterhouse for use as food, bone, leather, etc, just to keep the population in check.
That’s a separate argument, though it is related. Milking does not directly result in or from the death of an animal so there is a valid distinction to be made. Especially for an individual’s weighing of moral consideration vs. convenience which is often the dividing line between veganism and vegetarianism.
you CAN find quite a few varieties of “rennet free” cheese with effort.
Also, coincidence, or is this comic planned in a ton of detail faaar in advance?
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/664
nah, he just get’s distracted by every little thing to the detriment of the story.
if there even is a story.
I resigned myself to reading Grrl Power like I would read Garfield.
There’s a story.
It’s not a very focussed story, but if you read everything in 1 go, you’ll see it
There is an overhanging arc I think, but for the most part it does seem rather episodic.
nonsense – there is absolutely an overarching story. Dave does not get distracted or diverted (at least in terms of the storytelling). What he does do is present the lives of the characters in between the story arc scenes
I present Exhibit A: https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/about
From which, I present the following quotes:
I wanted a comic that focuses mostly on those interstitial scenes I enjoy so much. So the comic is largely “day in the life”
A comic about super heroines. Well there are guys too but mostly it’s about the girls. Doing the things that super powered girls do. Fighting crime, saving the world, dating, shopping, etc.
To me, the most memorable moments in comics and shows are the scenes with amusing character interaction, you know the issue the X-men spend playing baseball, or the moments where you see the ice queen warming up to the underdog nerd character, or the scene that establishes that two tertiary characters have a buddy cop thing going. I find that’s the stuff I remember and enjoy the most, not what villain they fought that episode. If Wolverine fights Sabertooth for the 47th time, who really cares? But if the artist draws him drinking a Strawberry Yoohoo afterwards, that’s the sort of thing that people remember.
I think that is a good chance.
As far as I see it the (main-) characters are very detailed from the start.
It’s the story that is along for the ride.
Not really, many webcomics artists and writers plan out ahead of time what little facts and idiosincries their charictors have and reveal them as the story progresses. The same go’s with sequence of eventsand so forth.
They often have the ‘big picture’, and the end point, planned out, but how they get there, or link the major ‘events’, that is more flexible and subject to repeated revisions
That is the fun part about writing. Finding out where the story will take you.
Sometimes you don’t know what is going to happen until after you write it yourself.
The weird part is when you kill off a charactor in the process and didn’t even plan on it happening but it’s there on the screen.
I wrote that page knowing this would eventually come up. Sydney was just testing the waters a little there even though Peggy said vegan instead of vegetarian, because vegans tend to be a lot more vocal about their diet (by necessity really, since so many things include animal byproducts) If Sydney had asked about her feelings on vegetarians it probably would have been a little too on the nose.
Ninja! But, as it is by Dave, that is fine. And I follow Sydney’s advice and always expect Ninjas. :-D
Shame that I messed up the blockquote mind. *sigh*
Love how Peggy is just so damn casual about being dragged along.
“I’m eating, I’ll worry about where I end up when I’m done eating”
Peggy works with superheroes full time, she’s learned to be amazed first and ask questions later.
Was thinking the same thing. She’s just sort of floating there all ‘meh, just chillaxin, floating on the tentacly thingy’. :D
As much as I love Sydney, Peggy is rapidly becoming my favorite character.
To be honest, I found Peggy a bit intimidating at first. Not the scars, as I have a bunch myself. Not quite sure what though. Maybe the whole can kill you with her little finger thing? Ok she is a sniper, but any front-line soldier knows a lot more ways to do that than I do. Or perhaps the tattoos? If they are as extensive as hers, it can take a while for me to warm to a girl. Not that I mind tattoos, it is just that heavy tattoos usually go with girls who are more counter-culture than I am familiar with.
But she has shown herself to be really nice. If I met someone like her in real life, I would be more than happy to ask her out. Once I got to know her a bit.
I love the way Peggy takes the ride.
And ffom Harems action on the ride I do believe she is going comando.
Or maybe she doesn’t want to flash a whole room of people at at a company dinner her underwear?
I don’t think Harem is wearing underwear anymore as a counter-measure to Maxima’s recent revenge.
Also, I just noticed that Peggy is in the exact same pose that she’s in in the vote incentive picture. I’m sure that’s just a coincidence.
Dann, good call.
I wonder if DaveB reused that pose. Hope he did, should make it a little easier
Hah, I didn’t notice that. Oh well.
That is impossible. Gray has a loosely definition of “exact”, It is clearly not the same pose, legs, hands, arms (I am sure at least of the left one), head, everything are in a different position.
Which raises the question of if her other body has had a chance to replace the garments that Maxima ripped off… Of course, I doubt teleporters find popping (or ‘vorping’) back to their room much hassle
(Autocorrect tried to replace ‘teleporters’ with ‘telepathy’..?)
not quite, but it is close
I doubt she would consider that Maxima would be un-inventive enough to choose a similar punishment for future infractions. But I otherwise concur with your conclusion that she is going commando. My reasoning being that she may still be suffering from the chaffing of being super-wedgied.
And, yes, it was Punk Harem who suffered that fate.
Mind you, she might prefer that to going on the list. She should be glad that Sydney controls her impulsive behaviour with The List. Given the immediate access she has to far greater ways of expressing her anger.
Such gross violation, of a very strongly expressed desire for confidentiality, really lowers my opinion of Harem! Which surprises me, as it was already on the floor.
I agree, yet consider:
Harem may have said something while ‘punk’ Harem was being light-hooked away.
Punk: “Are you a ve…”
*LIGHT-HOOK ATTACK*
Halo: “Emergency superheroine conference!”
Pink Harem: “You know [Person sitting next to me], I think Sidney might be a vegetarian.”
This would be finished by the middle of Halo’s rant.
But given the timing of the ‘no way’ responses… you are probably right.
You are getting Punk (Bodie) Harem and Goth (Gothette) Harem mixed up: Bodie has the short hair with the pink ‘splotch’ of hair, Gothette has the purple bangs
Out of curiosity, what is that intriguing rainbow drink that Peggy’s sipping at? And the way she’s so nonchalant about being carried out of the room by Lighthook is hysterical. She’s practically lounging in mid-air!
That drink is outta control! It has a bottle of hot sauce turned upside-down into it!
Gwen’s also kinda casual about getting carried off by a tentacle. Makes me wonder if she has experience with summoning tentacle monsters.
I’m pretty sure that’s a bottle of beer, not hotsauce – looks like some derivative of the Corona-rita
It’s some sort of beer-garita gone mad.
And nobody noticed the Crazy Straw she was sipping it with?
Not a big deal, though Sidney’s explaination makes sense from her point of view.
I love how sidney can look menacing just with a pen and ‘the list’ : p harem is on dangerous grounds now :p
Yet another shining example of “high intelligence, low wisdom.”
I like how we’ve been trained to see the List, and can just fill in Sydney’s face ourselves
Well, we can see the eyebrows.
Not to mention the tie-in to Sluggy Freelance — the sound effect ‘Ka-click’ made by Sydney taking her pen to ‘the list’ is the same as the one that’s made by Bun-Bun opening his switchblade, and nobody in their right minds wants Bun-Bun doing that.
I love how Peggy is giving no fucks at all in the fifth panel. I’m actually surprised Harem even cares enough to hold up her skirt. I took her for the type to not care at all if everyone sees her undies. And now that I type that I’m guessing Harem isn’t wearing underwear, which may be a counter-measure since Maxima’s revenge.
And I don’t think anyone here suspected Halo to be your self-insert, Dave. In fact, I think most of us have suspected Maxima to be your self-insert, seeing as she has gotten away with her little stunt at the press conference without so much as a verbal reprimand (getting yelled at by Arianna is not a verbal reprimand, it’s just getting yelled at with no consequences).
What if she wears My Little Pony undies?
She has a reputation to uphold.
I’m pretty sure that Harem doesn’t give any cares at all about reputation, the way she pulls pranks and screws with people.
There are different sorts of reputations people want to project. Someone may be fine with flashing a crowd but not want their embarrassing hobbies to come out. While Harem seems pretty uninhibited, she still might have a persona to uphold (likely one that includes regular pranking).
Hello Kitty perhaps?
In my experience ADDers always insert an ADDer as themselves in the story (is that a correct centence?)
I know I do it that way
Or maybe it’s the other way around? Only an ADDer can correctly write an ADDer?
Writing 101: write what you know.
I*t is just a nice touch that she has add. It adds a wonderful touch of quirkiness, the core of what it is to be Sydney.
Yeah that was just something I did early on a result of me being less experienced as a writer and was probably unnecessary. I’m glad I did it though since as I said her affinity for spicy foods came out of it.
And Maxima will get some sort of talking to about the events of the day, but most likely as a “Where’s Maxima?” “She’s at a congressional hearing.” since I don’t want to bog the comic down with that sort of stuff, unless I can thing of a way to write it in a concise manner that doesn’t introduce any 2-dimensional Henry Peter Gyrich type characters or go all political.
You don’t want to introduce a two dimensional character? It’s a comic. Aren’t all the characters by definition two dimensional? Wait, am I not reading it correctly? Are there some special glasses I can use to see it in 3D? Where can I buy a pair?
I can supply a pair. Just leave the money at the usual drop.
It makes me very pleased to know that Maxima will receive consequences for her stunt ^_^.
I’ve been thinking more about that badass nuke scene from the press conference, Dave. May I call you Dave? As I’ve criticized before that scene doesn’t work in Maxima’s favor because it’s a deliberate means of fear mongering and power-based resolution seeking. But, if the scene had developed naturally as a result of battle, and Suzy News happened to be nearby, wrapped safely in Halo’s shield, while Maxima put the fear of God into a villain, then it would make more contextual sense, rather than the whole, “FEAR ME” shtick.
But I trust you have a plan for all this, as evidenced by that sneak peak at the upcoming rogues gallery ;-). I’m certainly looking forward to reading on ^_^
Again, not a nuke. Conventional explosion described as a ‘daisy cutter impression’. So, both less damaging than a nuke in terms of blast radius, and without the radioactive fallout. Nuke comparisons are inappropriate fear mongering in themselves, in that they’re tapping preexisting biases in the audience that are based on the fear of nukes.
The media exists to disseminate information. Maxima using it as a mechanism to make a statement to imminent villains with powers is unreasonable. It’s also reasonable that others within the setting might be intimidated by it. What isn’t reasonable is letting a fictional character intimidate you, a real person.
*isn’t unreasonable. Using it as a mechanism to make a statement to imminent villains with powers isn’t unreasonable.
So, now that DaveB has himself referred back to #110, where Sydney and Peggy talk about vegetarians, based on what Sydney said in 110, IS SYDNEY PREGNANT???
Quick link to 110 https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/664
Dude, now you sound like a tabloid headline.
How about
IS HALO PREGNANT WITH AN 8TH ORB?
After all the public does not know their origin.
And now you sound like the Weekly World News. Wait, is that rag even in print anymore?
Don’t be so old fashioned. Now they have a web adress.
So Dave, you think you can license Bat Boy as a super villain?
Or wait, now that I recall, he’s helping the military. Is he in ARC Dark?
Interesting link to draw. Maybe a subconscious slip, if she has worries in that area? Perhaps missing time, she cannot account for? Alien-abductee style.
Or is she expecting those eggs flying around her to hatch sometime?
Oh great…I can see it now, each orb hatches into a little familiar, all girls (possibly monster girls), each as ADHD-addled as Sydney, though the personalities would cover a broad spectrum.
Nng! “rein yourself in like that”. Anything having to do with restraining or pulling metaphorically is “rein”, which is the bit of tack used with horses. Anything to do with a period of rule, governance, or metaphors using royal/imperial pretenses to rule (“your reign of terror over this school is at an end!”) is “reign”, which is the period of time during which a particular sovereign rules a polity.
Fixed! CTRL+F5 for your grammatical pleasure.
I’m not sure why Sydney got so bent out of shape. Unless she makes a big whoop-te-doo over her preferences, I would think that most people would be, “Oh? Sydney’s a vegetarian? That’s interesting.”, and other than possibly inquiring as to her self-induced edibles limitations out of courtesy or curiosity, most people would not really think twice about it. It is not as big a deal as it was in the ’70’s and ’80’s when people were a wee bit more militant about such things.
Usually it’s simply to avoid the usual questions of “Why’re you a vegetarian?” “What’s wrong with meat?” Answering things like that every time you bring it with a new person becomes tiring very quickly. I know I get similar things from people if I mention I’m asexual.
Although from Sydney’s reasoning it could be more that not eating meat has a stigma of being a more wimpy or pacifist lifestyle because they ‘do it because they don’t want to hurt animals’ and she wants to impress the room full of super-badass people.
There’s that, and the fact that it’s hard to get enough protein on a vegan or vegetarian diet for building up significant muscle mass.
Someone should really point out to her that it can also help with her height.
Depends on how much you like beans and peanuts.
MMMMM,Peanutbutter!
Don’t you mean, beannutbutter?
“Sends Kendercron to Guesticus’s house!”
Don’t knock it until you’ve tried it
It’s probably just the steryotype that ‘though people eat meat’, and she’s pritty damn self concious about being there
BTW, what kind of drink is Peggy consuming in panel 3? I love how that holds more interest for her than the conversation going on around her. Of course, she is probably two steps ahead of everyone else in realizing that Sydney is a vegetarian, so that’s just old news.
Panel five is now my favorite panel from a webcomic ever!!
Nice :) Really funny, so a good choice. You have great taste.
Hahaha, I didn’t know lighthook could stretch like that.
I guess it works similar to sticky air except visible and manipulativable (is a totaly cromulent word).
Well, she was able to ‘sign write’ her business’ name during the Conference
Good point. Although that is something which she might have practised a lot in advance, just because she could.
This however shows how flexible and strong it is in an improvised situation. We knew it could pick up a car from Sydney’s recent remark. But now we know it can also hold multiple people on demand. An incredible tool for a police officer!
I think she almost completely wasted that sign trick. I suspect the cameras didn’t catch it, and I doubt the reporters will relay it accurately.
Which brings up a new wrinkle. Whenever a news agency decides to do a story on Sydney, they’re going to need to hire a CGI artist to “sketch in” the effects, and tools, they can’t capture on camera.
It was only the Skill-circle that didn’t register
Are you sure? Because we have that the orbs don’t show up on instrumentation, or to magic.
Gwen describes them as not there, in a way that is suspicious, (as in even an empty room has an echo, so the total absence of sound indicates more than an empty room, although she doesn’t articulate her observations particularly well.)
Dabbler describes them as indistinct.
However, we know they’re physical enough to use for an uppercut, or a strike to the upper shin.
It could go either way, but I think it is just the skills that do not show on camera. Dabbler has a cybernetic eye and would probably have mentioned in the ballroom if it was invisible to that eye. There is the possibility that because she could see it with her regular eye, she might not notice that the other did not. However, she was examining it carefully, up really close. Which would surely have prompted her to notice such a glaring difference. Likewise she actually saw the tentacle being demonstrated in the same incident, so I would be really surprised if it was invisible to cameras but she failed to mention that.
Dang. I didn’t think you could make a pen click sound that ominous, I’m impressed.
Does anyone else see it as the same sound a shotgun would make?
Nah, a shotgun makes a more complex noise when you pump it, so the onomatopoeic for that is better written “ka-chik”.
Although I think that context makes it sound as dangerous as a shotgun being pumped.
More like a sniper rifle. Precisely targeted.
but not as clear as a plas-cannon cycling = ominous-hhuuummmmmm
not me. i heard a cute fluffy bunny named Bun-Bun in the back of my mind when she pulled out The List though…
Keep it up nerd boy.
Nice avatar to go with your comment. I can imagine a situation in Looking For Group in which that would be something Richard would say to Cale…
One problem with that: fairly sure everyone (including Benny the Gid) is not sure if Cale is male or female (considering even Cale didn’t know that his kitty was a miss)
Its amazing how sound effects can evoke specific memories without needing any further tie in. Like the way that the original Star Trek saved money on having to do transporter visual effects by just playing the ‘transporter sound effect’ without actually showing it.
And my thoughts on her vegetarianism? Meh. I mean if I was cooking for her it wouldn’t be THAT hard to adapt otherwise who cares really. I’ll eat my cloned mastodon steak while she snacks on Ghost pepper poppers.
Perhaps she would enjoy
Gah, stupid tags, who don’t you use BBCode?
Perhaps she would enjoy “The Merciless Peppers of Quetzlzacatenango! Grown deep in the jungle primeval by the inmates of a Guatemalan insane asylum”
from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Viaje_Misterioso_de_Nuestro_Jomer_(The_Mysterious_Voyage_of_Homer)
If it’s dangerously hot she all for it. Of course cooking may require some safety equipment but I’d be more than willing to be with Sydney. Our kids would be incredibly smart probably ADD and a lot of fun.
my relatives would love to have them as combat troops, see power of a dragon knight comes from.
Oh my God, Sydney’s secret is out! And there I was worried that the worst might be that she is a cultist of the Dark Old Ones, seeking to bring Hell and eternal darkness to Earth.
*sigh*
But, I shall be brave and try to look past this. She still has many other endearing characteristics. What is one flaw, however darkly hidden, amongst all those.
Hello Yorp. I have finally found you. Here have a present *gives Yorp a monkeys paw with one wish remaing*
(Grabs monkey paw)
Yoink!
(Flees)
Woop woop woop!
‘Woop woop woop’?
Are you dr. Zoidberg’s relative?
Need a crazy uncle?
(\/) (°,,,°) (\/)
Why not zoidberg?
Phew, thanks for the save on that one! I am sorry for the loss you will suffer though.
*dons a black paw-band as a mark of respect for the soon-to-be-departed*
“I wish everybody I know does not die, get hurt, or otherwise inconvenienced by some random act of fate.”
That leave you vulnerable as you didn’t include yourself. As the local Reaper I await your soul which Yorp my soon release.
Hey. I know me.
*gives the soul a little polish and sets it free*
After petitioning a guardian angel to watch over it.
golnor said act of fate not act of yorp……….. wide open
Um, taking a second look, I think that there may have been a teensy mis-understanding on my part. That soul might have been perfectly happy where ever it was, before I ‘liberated’ it! Hey, DR. REVENGE, I don’t suppose you have the chance to clone a replacement body for Golnor?
*has a sniff at Golnor‘s body* Mind you, things may not be as bad as it first looked.
*starts looking up rituals of second-party possession and instances of exorcism cancellation*
“sends Yorp a Golnor shaped cryo tube”
And then Everyone Dies, because Can You Really Know Anybody?
Everyone dies. Because Ninjas are not random.
So now all those people are to die in very calculated and deliberate ways?
Not the sharpest crayon are we Golnor?
Will the monkey’s paw hire hitmen?
no just arrange hostile IRS audits, switched luggage with the yakuza and Russian mafia, and such
So who would have died if I had pushed the button?
The last person who pushed the button.
“Looks at The Creeper with digust and pity”.
Boy you need to learn how to use tools properly.
“Holds up a fully loaded monkey’s paw”.
Any suggestion from the crowd?
Or shall I go with my own ideas?
Well to be fair I all did was give it to him. I didnt force Yorp to use it, and if he did it would have been of his own choice.
“Shakes head at Creeper”
The point is there are ways for you to use the wish to affect other people.
“Holds up the paw”
I wish the Creeper a long and eventful life.
1 down 2 to go.
carefully spanks DR.R with tail so as to cause no lasting harm physically while toying with anti-wish-paw charm.
This is only a demonstration.
I will nullify the wish in a week or two.
Well, we have yet to learn the true origin of Sydney’s orbs…Even more, we still have no idea what two of those orbs are even *supposed* to do. Perhaps the very learning of what those two orbs are for is the catalyst that starts Sydney on the path to insanity.
Perhaps she’s been able to resist becoming evilly insane so far because her ADHD quickly dispels the invasive, dark thought patterns when she’s distracted with current events…But the Old Ones are patient, if nothing else. Perhaps it’s only a matter of time before she treads into places where no human mind should go. Even with the limitation that she can only use two of those orbs at any given time, knowledge of their full functions still make her a formidable foe…Indeed, both Maxima & Dabbler have stated that Sydney may even be able to overcome the strongest of Supers, with enough experience & efficient orb-usage.
Perhaps Sydney was being only humorous back on page https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/766, maybe she was being unknowingly-prophetic when she said, “And you’re right to be terrified.”
Is it just me, or does Gothette look ‘masculine’, specially in the last panel? Noticed it in the last panel of the last page, but this time it’s just more pronounced/obvious (or maybe that’s just me)
Too much eyeliner.
Our eyes hadn’t adjusted.
I don’t understand why the other four Harem’s were acting so surprised (I assume it was them) when it was Harem who deduced that Sydney might be a vegetarian on panel 4.
Also, for a posh restaurant like that to only have baked potato as a vegetarian option is pitiful. Either that or Sydney is a VERY picky eater.
It just takes time for the thoughts of one Harem to flow into, and be processed by, the Harem Collective Mind (that’s why it also took a while for the ‘shhh! keep it a secret’ to work it’s way through)
I don’t think those four replies were from Harem.
Yeh, I thought that too when I looked at what they said again, General Faulk or Zephan would be my most likely choices for saying “Inconcievable” because that just really doesn’t seem to be something any of the others would say with a straight face.
Would Sydney put just goth Harem and whichever one blabbed onto the list? or would she add all Harems to the list together?
It’s the reaction from people sitting near the other Harems.
It played that way to me. The clues are all there, it is just a matter of assembling them. Harem would not be talking to Sydney in the third person. So clearly somebody* has whispered the dreadful secret to multiple people, who have responded in that fashion.
* By process of elimination, this could clearly only be Harem, as confirmed by the final panel.
Obviously you know all that, I just mention it, in case you were worried that everyone was getting the wrong end of the stick. You can set your mind at ease.
For information, the one other alternative, I considered, was the possibility that a room-full of super-heroes might include some who have enhanced hearing. Not that I recall any being mentioned yet. But Harem’s guilty look condemns her in the final panel, even if there are.
Faulk wasn’t invited, so probably the last comment was Zephon, the “Sydney’s vegetarian?” could possibly be one of the other Harems thinking/processing the information out loud
Just because all 5 share the same brain, doesn’t mean they are fully sync’ed at all times, or they wouldn’t really be able to do anything meaningful
Given the under the comic statement I think Harem started to gossip as soon as Syd started to talk.
I could bet that Harem is the one frantically saying “Shut. Up.” to the others.
Not an inconceivable possibility. She had obviously joined the dots, as that is what triggered the incident. Except for the fact that there was a spontaneous round of comments in the second-to-last panel, so clearly all those folks had only just heard at that point.
But, looking for plausible explanations for that, I guess it could be the diners’ responding to someone else repeating what Harem had said to them. If she had said it before Sydney had expressed her desire for privacy that would somewhat mitigate Daphne’s actions. But not a lot, as she is intelligent and it would not have been hard to join the dots, what with Sydney’s look in panel 4 and immediately cutting her off when she tried to voice the question.
She was sharp enough to suspect the real reason why Sydney was behaving as she was. So I do not consider that she should have had any difficulty interpreting Sydney’s facial expression and extreme action along with the statement “Emergency Superheroine Conference” as anything but a negative reaction to voicing that question. Clearly nothing else was said before passing through the door, else we would have heard err… seen the speech bubbles.
Thus, at a minimum, Daphne had the time it took for Sydney to exit the room to think it through.
So plausible, and somewhat mitigating Daphne’s actions, if it happened that way. But not exonerating her. She deserves Listing. In block capitals. Five times.
I would disagree that the “Shut. Up.” would be Daphne though. That is clearly modern ‘youth-speak’ for incredulous acceptance. As opposed to a panicked “Shut up!”
I think the inconceivable was leander showing nerd cred.
Ohhhh WOOOAHHHAAHH IS ME! The main character has a bit of complexity, ohh nooo, now I have to complain hooooowhwh will I ever keep reading woooahhaa.
Hey, more steak for me.
Honestly though, I applaud Sydney. There is no enemy greater than yourself, and when it comes to beef or pork, I don’t think I would ever be able to ween off of it. Its just so “over exposed” everywhere you go these days, and being a vegetarian that has enjoyed “real” bacon before has to have some sort of god-like discipline. I wouldn’t last long as a veg-head.
it’s the flattened eyebrows – we don’t necessarily associate arched eyebrows as an excessively feminine trait, but flat eyebrows are seen as an almost exclusively masculine one
Not sure what you mean by ‘flattened eyebrows’, but was referring to her entire facial structure rather than just one part
Regarding Gothette’s action in panel 5: have never taken her to be an exhibitionist, and even if she was, seriously doubt she would want to experience the fallout from flashing her commanding officer (ie Golden Elf of Doom!) or a room full of her contemporaries (specially if all 5 have decided to go commando after the Maximum Wedgie Incident) while they are having a (possibly rare) group dining experience
Imagine the tabloid coverage of the new female superhero quickly taking 3 other female superheros (yes I know Peggy is just a Hawk-Eye) into a back room. It doesn’t help that I believe the word “molest-orb” might have been dropped at the press conference.
Dat cocktail…
huh what Sydney’s a vegetarian? Yeah interesting.
Cocktail…. So colourful…
The word you want is REIN in, like reins on a horse, not reign like a monarch. Lurve the hard work.
It’s corrected. Thanks!
Just noticed Maximas comment when Sydney shanghied the other girls.
Says a lot about how much she trusts Peggy to deal with any situation that might arise.
Personally I hope the line included a joke within it. Short though it was. Which actually makes the statement even more impressive than if read literally. Maxima having supreme confidence that, no matter how dire it may sound, and even being bound by a super-power, Peggy will be able to deal with the emergency, without having to resort to firearms!
You didn’t notice? Peggy now carries a pair of mittens in her arsenal.
Having very recently stopped eating meat, I have to say I approve of this page.
You’d think for someone who got decked nearly twice by Sydney, Harem would rein it back a little with gossiping about her.
she DID get popped once, the Elevator incident.
Peggy has already established herself as a nice person. Her attitude here just reinforcing that. She is somebody it would be safe to trust implicitly.
Whereas, for a spy, Harem is not very good at her job!
Harem is also physically nineteen, even though you may consider she’s got an extra few years of experiences. Our brains still are developing at that point, so Harem likely doesn’t have the wise portions hooked up yet. Or else why would she prank the most powerful super known, especially in that manner? Or why would she be playing with fire by being a double-agent? Becoming a triple agent is her “best case”, after all, when that comes out.
Harem is the personification of “Hire a Teenager while they still know everything.”
I’m going out on a limb here, but I’m going to think that the change to vegetarianism is going to be a real strain on Sidney and Wolverine’s future marriage.
I have a cousin who married a vegan. He was built like how you’d expect an athletic meat eater to be built. Made his own swords and (aircraft aluminum) armor for SCA.
She was a stick. I mean you could silhouette her with your pinky at 5 paces.
I understand she didn’t like vegetables all that much.
For years, she didn’t know that Jello contained collagen sourced from meat…
I haven’t seen either one in a few years. I understand he’s lost weight. Which, considering he’s in his 40’s now, would be a real accomplishment.
Thought you meant the ‘Pinky’ bar at first :D
Along with the examples given in the comic, I’m pretty sure I’ve read that Roman gladiators had vegetarian diets.
As I understand it, until our Modern Time Of Plenty, most people got meat as part of their meal only occasionally, rather than Lunch and Breakfast as it is today.
“A chicken in every pot” was one of the campaign promises during the First Great Depression.
The idea that slaves, even valuable athlete slaves, may have been somewhat …restricted, in their diet wouldn’t surprise me.
I read a lot of manga myself, and when they ever comment on American eating habits it’s that we eat way too much meat in our diet.
That dosn’t mean they don’t usually like a little meat in their diet, just not as much as we do.
Mainly vegetarian in fact, yes. And most of all amazingly well suited to keep them healthy, strong and in good shape. Even by today’s standards.
Which doesn’t come as a surprise. A gladiator was a costly investment and you only really got your money worth from capable and healthy ones. You obviously had a lot of restrictions as a gladiator. And it was a dangerous life (analysis of combat records give a mortality rate of about ten gladiators per hundred duels, though that might have been dependend on the era as well). But not necessarily a bad one. Especially compared with other possible fates.
And nobody notice the Sweatdrop from Harem’s hairpin? (yeah I know it’s not FROM the pin, but it sure looks like it.)
I hadn’t but Dave’s art is good enough that he conveys the meaning via her expression alone.
Now that you draw attention to it though, it is a nice touch. One which might add to the expression, even if only picked up at a subliminal level.
Which is a lot better than the abstract, employed a lot in manga, namely a water drop dangling next to a character (rather than looking like it may have been perspired). Because without the context that the drop was meant to be sweat, I had absolutely no clue what it was about. So until I figured out the symbology, I lost out on interpreting a lot of scenes in such web-comics. Notably those where the art was not good enough to convey worry or angst by facial expression.
Noticed it, just kept getting distracted from commenting on it :D
Kinda used to the skull-pin in the Vampire Cheerleaders/PMS/Eerie Cuties series of comics that always check to see if it is reflecting the mood of the wearer
Same here man. =P
Sydney’s pretty quick on the draw with those orbs. I wonder if she’s practiced.
Easy to be a quick-draw when your weapon will literally jump into your hand. That said, it would be best if she tubed the orbs in a specific order every time (with the force field orb on top).
Given the way they sometimes misbehave, I wonder how inherently sentient they are. Sometimes I imagine her more as this team’s Orihime.
I admit I also want her to make a “back in the pack, Monkeybone!” reference at some point.
The only ‘misbehaviour’ I recall is them having a nap. Ahh, you are referring to them stopping Sydney moving too far away and her getting tubey snagged? Those are more than likely just built in safety precautions (and Sydney getting mad at her own clumsiness). That is not to say that they might not be sentient, just that we have not seen any clear-cut evidence to suggest that is the case.
It’s true that the only anthropomorphization they’ve received is from Sydney’s interpretation of their “behaviors.” But then again, she knows them best.
Time will tell, I suppose.
Dave – what happened to Peggy’s head in panel 4? Where Harem is leaning over, we see a little big of window underneath her chin, but shouldn’t we see Peggy’s face there?
Harem leaned in, in front of Peggy, to ask that question. Her hair hangs down in front of Peggys’ face. I’m trying to figure out if Dave missed Harems’ left arm or if she’s hooked her elbow around her chair or something.
Yeah, I get that (Harem’s arm is going straight back, behind her body, btw) – Harem’s shoulder is in front of Peggy’s neck and her head and hair are in front of Peggy’s head – BUT – look closely – we can see a bit of the WINDOW, behind Peggy, btw, under Harem’s chin. SO – either Peggy’s head is WAY leaned over to her right (our left), or she lost her head, or she became window-colored.
Okay, I see what you mean now.
Also, Sydney has moved in toward Harem. The angle of the horizontal elements in the window are identical to the earlier frame, indicating the camera has the same angle relative to the wall, but now Sydney is closer to the glass, (while still being beside the painting.)
Oh, well. I remember a magazine my brother subscribed to that once deconstructed an X-Men cover that showed Magneto with a 12-pack. I know he’s a mutant, but you’d think people would learn to watch for non-human musculature like having more abdominal muscles than anyone else.
Harem is leaning in and her head is in front of Peggy’s from our perspective. It also is because he didn’t have a lot of space on the page.
See my reply above.
I found that panel to be quite visually confusing. My brain kept interpreting Peggy’s arm as belonging to Harem, with Harem’s shoulder being the neck of Peggy’s body, conjoined at the neck with Harem’s body. It took a minute for me to figure out Harem was leaning in front of Peggy. Also, it seems like holding your arm straight back like that would be really uncomfortable.
I love How Peggy Is all Chill in The Box Where Halo’s Grabbed the Girls with the Tentacle Orb.
As far as the Navy seal thing, those guys would know about nutrition since they need to be in top physical shape. Bacon, while being just the best, for every meal does not make a healthy body. She might be surprised by how many of them have some good vegetarian recipes. I knew a special forces guy that made just a delightful eggplant lasagna.
All sorts of insults are thrown at vegans all the time, and usually they are deserved. Most vegans are frail idiots. Those who are vegan the right way, are simply people who have discovered, and try to live by, the iron rule.
Never prepare food for someone who holds morals that limit their diet, that you do not share. Ever. Don’t let anyone do that to you. Ever. Try either, and you’re gonna have a bad time.
Don’t see the wisdom? Corporations hold less morals than you do, and thus they see no problem in feeding you all sorts of unbelievable crap. Break the iron rule and you play with fire.
P.S. 90% of the misconceptions I’m seeing about veganism in the comments HAVE to be trolls. Or, they know that the fastest way to learn the truth on the internet is to post something false and wait to be corrected, and they are actually just curious. Either way, just bloody google it.
We shall have to agree to disagree.
My personal reason for starting it had nothing to do with morals.
I tried many dishes at a friends house who was Vegan(and who was inspired by one of the Beatles to try it, but whatever works for them), and found myself feeling rather good afterward. So I went to my doctor who recommended I start with a nutritionist specialising in Vegan/Vegetarian nutrition, and tried it. I also was going to a health center and doing many classes for health management.
I managed about a year being pure Vegan, had a nosedive with my health(I found out I was anemic, and even with plant-based high iron adjustments, could not manage to keep my iron levels high enough), and stepped back into a standard diet gradually, taking another year as a Vegetarian(to see if perhaps I could balance just the dairy as my protein source, which did not work either) before I could manage chicken broth, then I dunno, about another six months eating things various broths and baked fish before I could try chicken and the reds.
It can be done, but most people do not remember to have a doctor or nutritionist backing them to make sure they stay healthy. To this day, I still enjoy many Vegan and Vegetarian dishes with friends and family, and it’s a happy middle ground.
Agree or disagree as always it’s just…
Just my 2cp.
The following statements are demonstrably false:
Vegan food is tastier.
Vegan food is healthier.
Good free range eggs with dark orange yolks, raw unpasturized milk, and organ meats are three examples which demolish those two statements, in that an omnivore can eat anything a vegan can eat, PLUS those three things. However… firefighters don’t eat bacon. Because it smells too familiar… and the human body already stores all the nutrients a human body needs… The Hannibal Lecter diet, which already contains plenty of greens and beans, is likely to be the healthiest AND tastiest diet ever invented.
So yeah. Taste and health arguments for a vegan diet? Frail idiocy. The moral argument is the only one that holds water, and it is more than enough.
As long as you don’t use it to place yourself on the moral high ground in each and every way of course. There’s unfortunately a certain number of very vocal vegans doing that. Which for many people makes all vegans appear in a bad light. Unfairly so, but that’s how the public tends to react.
Personally, I’m an omnivore and quite happy with it. I don’t care if a meal I eat is with meat, vegetarian or even vegan, as long as I find it tasty and there’s enough. But if someone else decides to not eat certain things for a reason or other, that’s their choice and I’m fine with that. I might debate some of their points if I think they are wrong about them, but not their decision itself. And I will be civil and factual in the discussion.
Unless they start to preach. That brings out the snark.
“As long as you don’t use it to place yourself on the moral high ground in each and every way of course.”
Ugh, yeah. I’ve got a cousin who is a vegetarian, and quite lofty about it. We were at a family reunion and he and I were helping in the kitchen. He was asked to carry some food out to the table and he refused because it had meat on it. “I’m a vegetarian, I can’t carry that.” I turned to him and said “I scrub toilets but I don’t eat shit. Carry it out to the table you ass.” Seriously, it infuriated me. I’ve never heard a person who wouldn’t eat a particular food refuse to even handle it, except for preachy vegetarians.
I would have gestured to the meat dish, and said “Are you SURE you don’t [eat shit]? Make me carry that out and I’m gonna vommit on the plate.”
I know someone with a garlic allergy who literally can’t handle garlic. It causes blisters. She found that out the hard way.
Also, while I haven’t meant them in person, there a some people on a picky eater support group I’m on who have strong enough issues with texture and smell that they actively avoid going near the foods they don’t eat.
Neither of those statements preclude vegan dishes from being tasty though, which is what was being asserted. I cannot recall having had a poor vegetarian/vegan dish when eating round various friends’ houses. The contrast to my normal diet makes them all the more appealing to my pallet. Of course, they are picking the dishes that will appeal the most to a carnivore, so that is cheating a bit. But I am glad they do not inflict some of the weird-looking dishes on me.