Grrl Power #1350 – Objectified permanence
There is an obvious breakpoint for any stat where it goes from “nice to be recognized for that thing” to the crippling insecurity of “will anyone love me for me.” I won’t say something obvious like there’s a downside to incredible wealth or comeliness, I’ll just point out that a lot of people tend to define themselves by their most outstanding attribute, partially because very few people have the time to develop multiple outstanding attributes. If you’re wealthy, and that wealth is not dependent on you personally putting in 90 hours a week, then you might have the freedom and time to become a champion dressagist (dressager?) and also a world class painter. But if you’re “the smart kid,” and by that I mean the skips grades and takes advanced courses and starts college at 15 smart kid, then chances are you spend most of your time developing those smarts and doing extracurricular work, and when you finally make it to CERN and discover that everyone there was the smart kid and now you’re kind of in the middle, you might suddenly develop and urge to become really good at the clarinet or rebuilding car engines so that you have something to make you stand out again.
Having women fall all over themselves to catch your eye is a fun fantasy for guys because that’s not how it works for 97% of us. It’s sad but also a little cathartic when I find a thread on Reddit where guys get to reminiscing about the one time 12 years ago when someone paid them a compliment, because it was the only time it’s ever happened in their life. That’s how far from “women falling all over themselves” it is for most guys. That’s also why harem anime/novels are so popular. The idea of a guy being able to attract/keep multiple women is such high fantasy that it makes anything that happens on the new seasons of Doctor Who seem grounded and down to Earth.
Having an S++ tier comeliness (my art notwithstanding) is going to make for some good times for sure, but Flash Drive is going to eventually enter a phase of his life where he wants something more than a relationship based on superficial attraction. Probably. Maybe it’s enough for him to know that he’s got 57 kids out there that he’s never met.
The thing about a comeliness stat is that it’s actually hard to imagine how it would work above a certain level. Strength is easy. There’s always something heavier to lift. Dexterity, Intelligence, most of the usual stats in a game are easy to figure there’s no real upper limit. Comeliness, though… there is a limit to how attractive someone can be, IMO. Like, imagine the most attractive person you can. Cindy Crawford in her prime, or Jenna Ortega or Pamela Anderson or Kate Beckinsale in the Underworld movies or Hugh Jackman or Benedict Cumberbatch or Benedict Wong or whatever you’re into. (As an aside, the Marvel movies had a lot of guys name Chris leading their casts, but how weird was it that Dr. Strange had two actors named Benedict?)
Anyway, so imagine the most attractive person you can. Now imagine someone just a little more attractive than them. Some of us can do it, probably in the form of “Monica Bellucci, but with Grace Kelly’s nose” or whatever. But here’s the thing. Imagine someone ten times more attractive than them. It’s not possible. There’s such a thing as too much symmetry, or too few blemishes, or the shape of their eyes can only be so… just right. There’s a point where someone will enter an uncanny valley of doll-like perfection and artificiality, because human brains know that other humans do have stuff like skin texture. The only way I think Comeliness can function as a ceiling-less stat is if the person in question starts to emit a mind-control aura, or pheromones, or their mere presence warps reality in minor ways.
Also, you have to figure that someone with a 4-times-the-human-limit Comeliness stat must be teetering on the edge of ruin at all times. If being that attractive requires an absolutely perfect balance of facial structure, symmetry, and every other feature, then one stray freckle or a tiny cut could blow the whole system out of balance, and they’d lose like 20 points of Comeliness in an instant.
Please enjoy the increasingly stale vote incentive.
This month, I’m closing on a new house, selling my Mom’s house, finishing packing Mom’s house, moving city to city to the new house, forwarding mail, canceling utilities, all that. And after that’s done, I get to start the process of selling my old house, which needs a little work before it can realistically go on the market.
SO. I’m going to try and do this vote incentive in stages. Currently it’s just pencils. The TopWebcomics one will update with colors and detail until we get to the no clothes versions, then that will continue over at Patreon. Also there will be a comic or two in between each version to fill out the story.
I know it’s hard to tell from just the pencils, but this is Heatwave and Jiggawatt. The comics will explain why they’re doing what they’re doing. Although I feel like even saying that much makes it easy to guess, but hopefully the journey will still amuse.
Double res version will be posted over at Patreon. Feel free to contribute as much as you like.
llmao Dabbler getting the high-definition-high-shutter-speed camera ready
Escape while you still can, Flash Drive.
“It’s not possible. There’s such a thing as too much symmetry, or too few blemishes, or the shape of their eyes can only be so… just right. There’s a point where someone will enter an uncanny valley of doll-like perfection and artificiality,”
OK, I’m going to have to sort of agree, because I’ve actually met somebody who was approximately a 12, and in some unquantifiable way it wasn’t about symmetry, lack of blemishes, or eye shape. Though I suppose they were a given. In practice it was more like somebody had dumped a lot of points into her charisma stat, and you WERE going to find her attractive regardless of how few of your personal boxes she ticked because that’s what the entry said. It was actually obscurely painful to look at her. Maybe she WAS emitting a mind control aura?
OTOH, I actually was in the same room with Tyra Banks once, and she embodied your remark about too much of all that. She looked like a very well executed department store manikin, beautiful like a painting, not a human.
In-game Flash Drive’s GF was blind and knew him since he was a kid, and was the only woman he could trust after his Divine Make-Over because of how the feminine gender is depicted in this arc. But he has a character tag, and an in-comic job that makes sense, so he will be back distracting the female cast some time in the future when the Twilight Council needs to deliver an ancient magical artifact that must not fall into the wrong hands delivered to Arc-Light or Dabbler or Halo for some whacky plot-driven purpose, or Halo has to have an order of pot-stickers post-haste before s[ice is the only heat they have, or you get it, Digit needs an estrogen boost but can’t get HRT…
Thursday will be the last time Flash Drive will be seen for a while, exce-pt as a blur in the background and maybe a tag in the credits that explains what that cloud of dust was.
The problem with comeliness is EVERY character it interacts with applies a modifier(giving the total Allure) to it. Given her brain would probably shut down if it happened even Sydney could encounter someone that would consider her to have the highest allure of the group presented in this situation.
Panel 3 – I assume Sydney isn’t deliberately trying to pop Gadget’s boob out?
Re: the commentary… Eh. As a girl, it’s not that most men don’t catch women’s eyes often, it’s that women have been trained out of paying compliments to men, either by “society at large” or by men themselves. Consider: can’t say “I think you’re beautiful” without being mocked at best or sexually harassed or even assaulted at worst. Yes, including by people you know well who suddenly think they have “an in.”
A guy who showers regularly and didn’t burn his face off can have a happy harem- or, if we’re being more true to real life, a happy polycule, by being decent and meeting the right people. It doesn’t have to be a fantasy and it’s really not a matter of objective Comeliness score. It’s not that men are uggos and women pretty, it’s that women having personal taste can be mocked, treated as impossible, or assumed to mean consent.
“Can Palpatine give cookies to orphans, or does the Dark Side require he be cartoonishly evil at all times, lest he lose some Evil Force points?”
It’s not that he’d lose Evil Force points from giving them the cookies. If it were part of some evil scheme, he absolutely could do it without any problems.
It’s that he’d lose Evil Force points because of being the sort of person who’d WANT to give them cookies. The cookie giving would just be a proxy for the warm fuzzies that broke his connection to the Dark side.
I think the power of the dark side comes natural for guys like Palpatine. He is just being evil because it’s fun.
Physical beauty and attractiveness are not necessarily 100% correlated. There was a young woman I knew at a former workplace who was pretty enough, though I’ve seen many prettier, but every time she walked into a room, all the men in it wanted to drop one wing and run in circles. I can not tell you how or why, but it was definitely there.
If I had an euro for each actor named ‘Benedict’ in Dr. Strange’s main cast, I’d have two euros. Which is not much, but it’s funny enough that they have that many.
Well, as Twain said, “The only difference between reality and fiction is that fiction needs to be credible.” Real life is continually throwing our way stuff we’d roll our eyes at in fiction.
Part of it, though, is that there are so many different things going on, that while any given coincidence may be unlikely, that there will BE unlikely coincidences of some sort present is almost guaranteed.
On the topic of combining Some Features while trying to to get too weird about it all of these examples are very attractive but to nominate a feature, Sigourney Weaver’s smile, Mila Jovovich’s eyes & Claudia Black’s voice
This is sexual harassment.
But, technically, less than what Dabbler usually gets up to. I guess she’s rubbing off on them.
it is about more than just “rubbing off”
Overt sexual harassment and Maxima … blames the victim.
Well, I guess he WAS asking for it. Dressing like that.
I’m of the opinion that at a certain point, attractiveness becomes subjective (around 7-8/10).
It feels like everyone talks about women like Tyra Banks or Pamela Anderson, even in their prime, but I’ve never agreed. I can see why they would be considered a 10/10, but they never hit me the same way.
It’s best exemplified with men who like obese women: you do you; don’t expect me to agree.
Eeeeh, I don’t think this is sexual harassment. Gadget, maybe, she’s just, not really all there socially? Though I suppose accidental sexual harassment is still sexual harassment… Plus, I don’t think Max is blaming Flash Drive for it. Just that the best way for it to stop is to have him leave, so everyone can get back to work.
As for Comeliness Stat… well, there’s a reason why Charisma in games like D&D isn’t Comeliness, but also your force of personality and speaking skills. Can be a bit hard to imagine someone being more Charismatic, but easier than Comelinesses imo