Grrl Power #1197 – Succubus wrangler
I don’t know where Heatwave is, but it probably involves some photo shoot on the rim of an active volcano. And while she’s there, I’m sure a few scientists are like “Hey can you swoop down there and fill up a few buckets with lava for us?” and some other guys are like “Hey-yo, could youse be a pal and toss this not at all suspiciously human shaped garbage bag into that bublin’ spicy arrabbiata, AY! Pasta fazool! Amore!” Because those guys all have “Cartoonish Italian Mobsters Tourettes.”
Maxima’s probably been waiting to threaten Dabbler with this particular scheme for a while now. Dabbler’s pretty confident she can convince Heatwave to go along with this or she wouldn’t even pretend to agree with Max’s proposal. A succubus who’s gone a month without getting laid could cause a much worse problem than what Parfait did. It’d be like getting someone to go cold turkey from heroin, although there’d probably less vomiting. As a succubus’s tantric reserves wane, their libido ramps up. It’s just like someone getting hungry if they skip a few meals. Dabbler’s not a literal sophomore succubus like Parfait, she has way more self control, but 30 days would be asking a LOT from her.
In other news, I guess Archon has a devil on retainer?
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Maxima finally found a threat that registers as serious to Dabbler
But sex isn’t just a past time to Dabbler. Doesn’t she literally NEED the energy from sex to survive? Wouldn’t a month of abstinence be like starvation?
Not eating for a month isn’t dangerous, especially if you have enough body fat and take vitamin and mineral supplements. She could also subsist on background sex by living in an apartment building.
Not eating for a month would be dangerous. A person can live for 8 to 21 days without food but it’s still dangerous. It’s a moot point in Dabblers case because succubi can get their energy through close contact – not just from sex directly. Remember the succubus nun or Tamatha? It’s just not as fun.
Succubae can also subsist on radiating tantric energy from sexually charged places… or hovering outside a couple’s door like an eavesdropper. That being said, it’s about as fun for Dabbler as being the designated driver at the biggest New Years Eve party of century (I almost wrote “of the year” there, but I caught myself! ^_^ )
Here’s another point though: Is there any other member of the team, whom Maxima would feel she has the right to give orders regarding their sex lives? Of course not. That’s an incredible overreach of her authority, and all Dabbler would need to do was point that out…
…or report it to the General… with the added reminder that she needs tantric energy to survive, so this incredibly inappropriate order also involves demanding she starve herself… perhaps not to death (if she can absorb-at-a-distance), but certainly to a weakened and miserable state. Formal reprimand against Maxima would be certain; a threat to demote her (likely an empty one; she’s too valuable in command) would probably be brought up.
So, given that Dabbler most likely knows all this (we expect this alien genius has read the full protocol manuals… if only so she can pick and choose which ones to flout) what reason would she have to “play along”, and treat Maxima’s threat like it has any teeth?
Dabbler: “Listen, Denial Play is a valid fetish, and if this is how Maxima chooses to Dominate me, I’m ready and eager to indulge all her darkest kinks… (alright, maybe less eager for THIS specific one…)”
Maxima: “THAT IS *NOT* WHAT THIS IS ABOUT!!!”
Dabbler: “Are you trying to convince me, the 30 people in this room, or yourself? I think you’d be 0 for 3 on that one, honestly.”
Maxima: “AAARGH!”
*Starts handing out torches, pitchforks, and hot buttered popcorn. This is going to be gooood. What do you Do with an Accidental horny button?
Dabbler: “When did steve the nefarious talk about our night in the everglades”
Illy for the win. Some chose to act on urges while others chose not to. The usual human stuff.
Despite the allusion to coursework, its not a given Parfait understands anything other than her own blue-orange morality. Assumedly she knows there’s a problem, and its centered on her, but that doesn’t mean she understands why any of this is a problem. I’m guessing succubi aren’t normally summoned for movie binging, shopping and boy watching.
I’d say that in the case of Succubi their morality is stranger yet than orange-blue
Let’s call it Blue – Coffee morality (*), as it is really not on any perceivable spectrum.
(* not to be confused with Orange – Cardio Workout morality, as that is an entirely different kind of weird)
I wonder if it’s the same devil The Mouse uses
The devil will be in the details of course and down to Georgia for this onen
Not to be indelicate but there really were other options. Leaving the building. Excusing oneself to the bathroom or a private room to take care of business. Calling Brook to remind himself why indulging in an understandable but relationship damaging impulse is a bad idea. Heck, an impromtu monlogue on how much he cared for Brook given to Jiggawatt would have been great choices but Mr. A didn’t want any of those outcomes as much as he wanted sexy fun time with Jiggawatt.
Adulting can be hard.
If Brook wants to understand why her boyfriend and their team mate would do this despite being in what otherwise seemed a monogamous relationship, that’s great. Amorphous suggesting it does come across as douchey.
Amorphous, unknowingly magically drugged by someone else, was basically really, really, really drunk through no fault of his own. Adulting is indeed hard. Which is why a lot of people had trouble with this arc. What happened was effectively getting a bunch of people drunk and drugged, i.e. judgement impaired, and the arc isn’t really handling it very well. Neither are people trying to blame the victims of this incident, who had no more say about imbibing in the lust aura (you say he could just leave the building, but that assumes he was AWARE the building was the problem, which he was not).
Whoops. Accidentally double replied. My bad there. Figured the comment didn’t go through after a couple refreshes.
This mini-arc skirts the edge of hot button issues so take it all with a grain of salt. That said and just to be clear, I said leave the building as in Amorphous finding himself wanting fun sexy times with Jiggawatt could have chosen to walk away. Feeling lust regarless of source doesn’t override everything about a person. That’s why I say adulting is hard. Choosing something other than the gratification they really want kind of sucks.
It’s not a fault of the characters they felt lust or any other emotion, either from within or from an external source. But what they choose to do while feeling that emotion is completely theirs and as adults they get to own those choices. Feeling an emotion is not carte blanche to do whatever they want with it. But give me a person that *cannot* have prior experience with an emotion then are subjected to that emotion without any context or build up and I’ll be inclined to give them more slack. Not carte blanche but I’d be sympathetic.
Absolutely, look at Anvil, she went for her toy rather than hunt for man meat.
Good thing too for she would have come down on him like a …
Okay, terrible pun. I probably should be ashamed of myself. I won’t, but I probably should.
Adulting is indeed very hard. I find it especially difficult when dealing with immaturity. Like, for instance, someone saying that an individual who was unknowingly influenced by an effect that altered their judgment and rational, going so far as to impair it, is to blame and should ‘take responsibility’ in some ways. Your primary one ‘leave the building’ assumes he was aware that doing so would remove the impairment, which he was not. And all of them, including that one, assume he was aware of the impairment at all, which he was not.
Let me rephrase. ‘Amorphous and Jiggawat both got slipped a crap ton of drinks and aphrodisiacs without their knowledge or consent. So clearly, while unknowingly drunk and drugged, he is totally to blame for any choices he makes under the influence of said drink and drugs’. It doesn’t really work when you actually spell it out like that. It’s victim blaming.
While I don’t particularly blame any one individual currently represented in the comic, as even for Parfait this was a major accident that she wasn’t prepared to have full control over, there is no fault to be had in blaming VICTIMS of any sort who were unknowingly mentally impaired. ‘Oh, I slipped them some booze, but they still slept with me so they wanted it’ is what this line of reasoning leads too.
Currently, Thom (I think that’s his name) is probably the one primarily to blame. He is in charge and responsible for Parfait in a guardian-esque sense, as far as the succbi are concerned, but he still allowed Parfait unsupervised access to the mortal realm. If she’s young enough to be making mistakes like this, she’s young enough to be considered a child by their society (or at least should be) and shouldn’t be allowed to just pop in on a random human summon. If he was unaware that this was her limitation then the school itself failed, because they weren’t rigorous enough in their training to prevent this.
Ultimately, Parfait’s nature is problematic only because she clearly was not prepared for being out here on the mortal realm on her own. That speaks less ill of her than all the people responsible for her. The best way to wrap this up would not be Parfait getting in trouble, but either Thom or the school system in charge of her, to one degree or another. It assigns blame where it should be (in the hands of those who DO know better and are aware of the dangers) and forces them to work on whatever failing they have in their training.
‘Ultimately, Parfait’s nature is problematic only because she clearly was not prepared for being out here on the mortal realm on her own. That speaks less ill of her than all the people responsible for her. The best way to wrap this up would not be Parfait getting in trouble, but either Thom or the school system in charge of her, to one degree or another. It assigns blame where it should be (in the hands of those who DO know better and are aware of the dangers) and forces them to work on whatever failing they have in their training.’
very rarely do institutions or authority figures ever admit culpability. this would almost be as unrealistic as finding one of the top 5 most powerful artifacts in the universe scuba diving off the Yucatan peninsula. then in desperation succesfully sneaking it through customs.
This commentary about school responsibility is all ridiculous. Thom and the school have nothing to do with this.
Sydney pulled Parfait into this place without notice, and had a girl’s date with her. For human girls, this would have been a fun non-event. If Sydney had asked Dabbler about cautions, it would have been a non-event. If they had been off camping, it would have been a non-event. But, effectively, Sydney unknowingly stimulated Parfait into letting off that aura, and had no way to calm her down (until she figured out the eyelick).
Ultimately, Sydney caused this by her ignorance. The solution is that Parfait needs to keep a sleep potion in her boobs of holding. The social consequences will reverb for a while…. even for the ones that are happy for the event, since NOW they know what they are missing.
The reason it matters is because Syndey was told by Parfait to call her and invite her over, and Parfait was allowed to do so by someone who trained her, who took on her training after a school sought him out (or he sought them out) to do so.
Parfait is still a relatively young succubus, even if she is not a child, and her lack of control is indicative of a failure of her training or her age, depending. It hasn’t been explained yet which it is. As such, Sydney, whose only experience is Dabbler, who is (largely) in control of herself, summoned Parfait, with the permission of Parfait herself (the person you seemed to be ignoring was totally able to ignore this summons, as described by Dave, and thus not be called and thus not appear here), and with the help of a Hearth Witch, who is significantly more knowledgeable about magical matters than Sydney herself.
In summary, there are multiple people in that chain who should have known better and Sydney is the least culpable of them. But beyond that, there are others who are significantly more responsible because they LITERALLY have a responsibility to take care of Parfait and be aware of her limitations, namely Thom and the School.
Blaming Sydney for calling up a friend and saying ‘hey, come hang out’ is really just ignoring every aspect of this situation aside from the exact, base, surface. Because there should have been guardians involved (Thom, in this case) who would say ‘You can go, Parfait, but be sure to call every hour and if you start to feel horny, let me know immediately so I can summon you home.’ Or, if Thom believed Parfait didn’t need that level of supervision because of the school itself, then the school who should have been more on the ball about finding this loss of control.
‘Oh, but it’s Sydney’s fault because she did something she had literally no way of knowing could go wrong, despite dozens of experiences telling her it would be fine, and several other people involved all knowing way more about this than her, and several other individuals who are literally responsible for Parfait’s well being who should have known better.’ <— This is your argument. It has no value because you look at only the face value of the situation and with that you ignore all the context'.
Instead of using amplifiers, you can just say “Mr Amorphous (and everyone else) was unknowingly slipped an unknown but relatively large amount of Ecstasy.”
It covers the situation. Being an adult… as opposed to “adulting”… means being aware there are levels and layers of things. There is some level of responsibility for anything you do, even while drunk, and some level of not being responsible for the outcome.
In this case, in a building full of sexy supers with suppressed sexual tension, it’s not surprising that most of the characters found it to be a relief. Not surprising in the least, and not objectionable.
On the other hand, as Dave has been saying for weeks, the other shoe is going to drop. There are human consequences.
Considering that Dave’s default position to the subject is “consent porn” – ie loud and constant verbal consent given and received – the mewlings of the crowd of mice with lit matches and tiny pitchforks is very far premature and largely an irrelevant sideshow.
Let the man actually finish his own artistic and moral statement.
Of course, anyone who is importing human morals into the succubus milieu (as opposed to the effect of succubi on humans and metas) is just anal. And not in a good way.
Translate it into a pure food reference and look at it again. Succubi really like food. They need it to live. They have to have a Master Chef to make enough food to live happily. Their Master Chefs make really really good food. They really really like their Master Chefs’ food. The contract with the Master Chefs ensures they get provided with enough food, which the Master Chef enjoys cooking for them. If a Master Chef is mean, or a bad or miserly cook, then they can leave and find another one. But they usually just love love love their Master Chef’s food. And anyone else’s food. They just love food.
So if you’re trying to demand that succubus consent be equivalent to human consent, it’s just not sensible.
On the other hand, once the succubi start interacting with other beings, some consent rules do have to apply. And back to the current moment… bad things can happen socially when a succubus makes everyone hungry and social lines of agreement about who eats what get stepped over.
So let’s see what the next three pages hold. Consequences are incoming.
*Considering that Dave’s default position to the subject is “consent porn” – ie loud and constant verbal consent given and received – the mewlings of the crowd of mice with lit matches and tiny pitchforks is very far premature and largely an irrelevant sideshow.*
So what about Math who told his partner before she attacked him that what she was doing wasn’t going to affect him focusing on the fight, AKA not giving consent.
Math and Jabberwocky are in an preexisting non-commited relationship, and he is perfectly capable of fighting her to a standstill (and both of them ENJOY sparring even without an Aura). Afterwards both of them are perfectly content with the outcome, and did not even notice that there was a difference due to the Aura.
There are plenty of consent snares here, but you picked the worst one.
Reposted from page one
No the closest they have been is Math suggesting a threesome with Detla, and the girls not joining him, perhaps hiding his clothes. https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/comic/grrl-power-986-smoosh-is-in-the-air/
Jaberwokky has been shown to be chasing Dabbler sense she joined ARC, which is another reason why they haven’t been together already. Also she is a recent graduate from training and Math is an officer so regulations would keep them from being in a relationship.
Finally please see my response to Lippoe. On page one.
They are most likely both content with the outcome for the same reason Mr. Amorphous is content, the aura is probably like Dabblers spell and stops people from feeling regret.
*There are plenty of consent snares here, but you picked the worst one.*
I picked the only one where we have proof, before the rape happened, that one of the parties did not give consent.
We have no such proof, because in the general case, it is not possible for a second party to know with complete certainty whether or not another party is consenting. There are possible exceptions within fiction, both because the reader may have access to the private thoughts of the characters, and reading minds may be possible within a fictional setting. But in most cases, we can only guess, based on our understanding of the person. Were page 1190 the first page in which we saw Math and Jazza, there might be reason to doubt that they were consenting. But we have seen them before, seen them interact with each other before, and can make some reasonable inferences as to their natures and relationship with each other.
There are no universal signs for consent. Couples define their own boundaries and means of communication.
*We have no such proof, because in the general case, it is not possible for a second party to know with complete certainty whether or not another party is consenting.*
Person 1: I want to have sex with you.
Person 2: OK let’s have sex.
That would be pretty certain
Now people aren’t robots and don’t usually start sex with a contractual negotiation, but if DaveB had swapped Jaberwokky’s hand throwing the ripped clothes into the air with Math’s or had Math’s head thrown back with his eyes closed at the bottom of the Gutteral Feminine Moan panel, or anything that showed he was an active participant it would have shown he was engaged and consented. But we have none of that all of the actions are performed by Jaberwokky so the last line could be a punchline for the comic.
*There are no universal signs for consent. Couples define their own boundaries and means of communication.*
Which is why you need to be certain you have gained consent before you have sex with someone, and if you aren’t sure tell your partner you aren’t sure and want to know they consent. How you do that may be different for every couple but gaining consent is required.
This is one reason I think every couple should have a safeword, it is a moment when the participants know what is staring and they have a way to exit at anytime. And yes even for the most degenerate of sex, Hand holding while making love face to face.
Someone could be coerced to make those statements, or, as is being discussed, mind controlled into making them. Thus, they do not serve as actual proof, either to the second party, or an observing third party, that either party is consenting. Evidence, yes, but not proof.
That same page also had Detla say “It is not impossible” and after the partial de-fabrication. “Did he really think right now, while we are guarding the prisoner?” (paraphrased obviously)
No idea if anything happened after, but there was implied consent (if for a later time)
Jabberwocky chasing after Dabbler was the first example of the succubus lust aura being used in a weaponised form, and the safety failing to let Jabberwocky down gradually out of her induced ‘high’.
Jabberwocky also made it abundantly clear in several occurrences that she found Dabbler irresistible but was very much not okay with that.
The Jabberwocky and Math two frames do not look great on moral grounds and I agree that it would have been a lot better if Dave had shown them to already be in a relation prior to the scene.
At… no point do I argue that Dave should not right this story. I am arguing the fact that one particular person is trying to claim that, out of everyone involved here, and with all the evidence saying there was mental impairment in the decisions being made, that Amorphous is 100% responsible and should have just ‘been better’ then magical manipulation. Maybe you should read the full comment, and the comment it’s replying to, before trying to cast judgment?
Please note I’ve consistently avoided responding to the emotional explosives of “drugged” and “drunk”. Might be true, might not be. I have my reasons to believe these aren’t accurate but hey its the internet and you wouldn’t be saying something was true if you didn’t believe it on some level.
At this point I’ve articulated my position fairly well, regardless of how mature you find it but I’m certain we’ll both soldier on regardless.
Your position is that someone, who was clearly under the effects of mental influence outside their control and knowledge, is responsible for their actions while under that influence, and that influence was not ‘nearly so influential as being drugged or drunk’, despite it being able to affect an entire building full of individuals with military training, discipline and even experience dealing with mental assaults like this one.
No.
We still don’t know what level it hits at.
Sydney, a straight character who knew what was going on, was swept up enough to lose her shirt and have a fair few kiss marks on her
We know that somebody who was on duty manning the entrance was affected enough that they were having sexy times where they were working…
We have Mr Amorphous and Jiggawatt both thinking that if Heatwave is exposed to the aura she’ll understand and forgive them for what they did…
The two people we’re aware of who didn’t do something with other characters are Gwen,Anvil and Arianne, both of them were alone Anvil had something at hand to take care of the situation and Arianne summoned somebody to deal with things, Gwen seems like she took things into her own hands and has rather unusual tastes.
We don’t know what would have happened with any of them if they’d been with somebody else
No, neither expect Heatwave to forgive them, Morph just wants her to understand what happened, an what happens after that happens
He knows he fucked up, he admits he fucked up, he is prepared to accept whatever happens, he just wants her to understand
This is equivalent to a group of alcoholics walking out of a bar one of them looking down at his 5 year coin and deciding he needs to get his supporter drunk so she knows why he got sloshed tonight, and the others plotting how to get it done.
Everyone in that room is still under the effect of the tapering off affect of the aura. None of them should be allowed to make decisions until they are clean
That whole AA thing with Sober Coin is a scam
But do understand your point (how long before they are deemed ‘clean’? a month in an isolation chamber, like reverse of what Math had to go through?)
And you realise that even Maxi was affected, right?
*That whole AA thing with Sober Coin is a scam*
I’m going to need you to explain this line some more I don’t know what you are trying to say.
Are you complaining about AA sober coins? I wouldn’t have any input other than to say some people who have been through AA find them helpful.
Are you complaining about my use of it in an example? How is my example a Scam?
Let me break this down for you, 1. you have a group of people who have all indulged in a act on several occasions, some of them may have indulged daily. At least one of them has indulged while her other body was working knowing that experiences are shared by all the bodies. If this was alcohol or cocaine instead of sex those would be warning signs some of those people might be addicted. 2. Now all of those people just left an area, the aura, where they had as much of the item they indulge in as they wanted, or were force fed the item if they would not normally indulge. Bars don’t force a person to drink like the lust aura makes people think “Wow, I really like having sex! I should definitely have a lot more sex.” but examples break down when you bring in magic, I have to use the next closest thing. I could have said a collage kegger, there is more peer pressure to drink at a kegger then a bar. 3. One of the people who indulged had made a promise beforehand to someone that they would not indulge in the item, this being having sex with other people, probably with a promise back that if they felt like indulging one of them would inform the other to keep them true to their promise. 4 Realizing that they broke the promise, with out wanting to, his words, the person who is being told by the other people in the group it’s not his fault, wants to force the same feeling on his contact. 5. The other people in the effected group are deciding what the requirements will be to force this feeling on the unaffected individual
Is that better? Less of a scam?
*But do understand your point (how long before they are deemed ‘clean’? a month in an isolation chamber, like reverse of what Math had to go through?)*
Well they have an experienced Succubus right there they can ask her how long the lingering effects of an aura are, they can then match that with the only other aura they have experienced, which strangely enough was no time at all and everyone felt bad about fighting each other and people who had been awoken because of it immediately went unconscious again. I am suspicious about this aura having a ramping down effect and the lack of resentment is looking a lot more like mind control. Unless Vehemence’s aura is very different, and hey they have had several months to research that, ARC-Dark or ARC-Light might already have an answer.
If you are talking about Math being told to look at boobs that was to overcome a weakness not to detox from anything.
*And you realise that even Maxi was affected, right?*
Yes, she is one of the people debating how they are going to force this aura on one of her subordinates. I realize she is compromised.
And just because they aren’t going to use mind control doesn’t mean she wont be coerced into it. Either through peer pressure, everyone in this room telling her it wasn’t his fault and she needs to suck it up and let Dabbler effect her, or her ability to work being changed, she is no longer allowed on a team with her boyfriend/ex but they won’t tell her why until she lets Dabbler effect her, or intimidation, or forcing everyone who wasn’t on site having to be effected just like having to be tasered or pepper sprayed. The only way this isn’t forced on her is she says no and Mr. Amorphus is fired, but then he is being punished for being effected by an aura, which was already established as not being under there own control
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/comic/grrl-power-288-hearts-and-mind-fingers/
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/comic/grrl-power-289-misunderstandable/
I guess there is a third option, Dabbler could just lie to her and get her consent that way. Oh wait that’s not consent
With AA, it’s ‘All or Nothing’, complete and total abstinence for the rest o your life… or you are loser and a waste of space
What they should be teaching addicts is control, and how to recognize when you are losing it: having the occasional drink (or smoke or whatever) should not be the end of everything
I’m not sure that “having the occasional drink (or smoke or whatever)” is something addicts can do without starting pretty severe problems
Relapsing as an addict isn’t pretty
Now I’ll agree that the Alcoholics Anonymous approach has issues (for example the must accept a higher power exists for people forced into the program by the justice system) and that other approaches need investigation
Wait wait wait, why the fuck should Morph be fired? For having sex with someone other than his girlfriend?
I’m not saying he “should” be fired, I am saying the only way for Heatwave to not be coerced into accepting the lust aura is if there are no repercussions from her saying no to the lust aura. And if they have to change her working schedule, or she is pressured by others because Morph’s schedule had to change those are pressures that may eventually force her to accept the aura in spite of her desire not to.
The aura hit so hard and fast that no one, that we saw, bothered to go anywhere private. Gwen didn’t leave her desk, she just shut the door. The receptionist was still at their desk too. By all available evidence, all anyone could do was bone down right that second.
Which is fundamentally at odds with the idea of meaningful consent. So it feels like Dave is trying to eat his cake and have it too right now. Hopefully, the next few pages help dispel this one way or another.
Please go to the nearest drug dealer *cough*pharmacist*cough* and ask them for their strongest aphrodisiac. Take 10 times the dosage. Then try to control your urges long enough to make any kind of rational decision. That is about what the lust aura effect is like. And it’s not something you can get out of your system just by a single orgasm (like with most aphrodisiacs) but it lasted until the aura was turned off. Sure those that were alone tried to handle it in a generally private manner or resisted it through sheer willpower *cough*Arianna*cough* but that option wasn’t available when you have 2 (or more) horny people in the same room. Personal preference helps out too like in Sydney’s case (boys only). Sure some of them are bi curious so it won’t matter who else is in the room but those that have their gender preferences set in stone, they will leave the room to find their preference if it’s not there, or head for the nearest private area to deal with it solo.
To be honest, we have no idea how many were alone when it struck, for all we know, they all were alone (except for Math and Jabbs)
Amorphous is also kind of a douche with a pretty loose attitude toward faithfulness. Very early on he let Harem kiss him a ton for a prank on Max, without a single reminder that he was taken or attempt to push her off. He may just not be a very good boyfriend.
The kisses happened off screen, when he was strapped to a gurney in an ambulance while he was under orders to pretend to be a normal human
We don’t know whether he went along willingly or couldn’t stop it, we certainly don’t know that he allowed it with no protest
For some reason none of my recent comments were linked to the original posts these were intended to be replies to.
Apologies!
Parfait just does not look well here, she looks like she has been up cramming for a test for a few days.
Parfait needs a room, with someone in it.
i imagine the conversation going
hey
hey
your partner was put under a mental effect and did something he may/may not regret
what?
its not harmfull i can temporarily put you under a smiliar one to explain exactly what its like
ok?
atleast thats how i imagine it …. altho knowing dabbler she miiiiiight “stir the pot” so to speak
P.S. hey the weird issue that prevented me from reading this on chrome is gone
Pretty sure devils and succubi always try very hard to have each other on retainer
Yep. That’s harsh, but also exactly what is called for when lust auras are involved. Dabbler can even opt out by saying she can’t do it. She only has to not mind control anyone to meet all requirements, barring her own pride. I like pitting pride against mind control.
It separates the wheat from the chaff, and I have no doubt Xuriel can handle it, but Maxima is right to ask this of her for her to be given the reigns.
FYI, ‘given the reins’, as in the straps to guide a horse. Given the reigns is, um, given the rulership of multiple kingdoms or something? Never seen reigns in the plural.
The reigns of King Charles II and King Charles III of the United Kingdom are separated by several hundred years.
There you go.
I was wondering when this shoe was going to drop, and apparently Mr Amophous is carrying a whole bag of shoes to pour on top of it…
The suggestion of convincing someone to subject themselves to pseudo-mind-control without the use of mind control, when the mind control is right there, certainly does reek of suspicion. Glad Maxima’s making all this EXTRA clear.
New fetish unlocked: Chastity
Yeah, I’m out.
Was a good run. Why the hell did this arc even need to exist, and why did Dave think he would be able to handle suddenly interjecting one of the most powerful social issues in human society into a comic like this?
Can’t even imagine a single page now, because it all leads to and will be influenced by this arc, emphasized by one-liner backpedaling directly from it’s author. If you wanna approach these kind of issues, fine, but you get ONE shot in the public eye.
This whole scene in the auditorium feels like we’re the ones in the seats and Dave is Dabbler, realizing he fucked up (and got caught trying to write about a serious issue while following it up with “a-hyuck” levels of delivery) but the intent was still there. That last panel before Max burst in the room says it all.
And before people say “look, she might have been fighting it in some other way we couldn’t see” and sure, that seems valid, but we’re a human audience. You gotta give us something. What Dabbler said was more akin to “look the only way I can turn off this aura boner is if I get a little somethin somethin, sorry Sydney.” Sydney then offers a 2nd way out, but Dave ruins the chance at redemption by going for the “aww shucks” comedic delivery.
Fucking NO.
Something like this was bound to happen eventually, and readers should have been able to predict that ever since Dabbler showed up way back on page 100. If you thought DaveB would never actually go there, then I don’t know what to tell you, other than that we apparently haven’t been reading the same comic.
I honestly don’t understand why people are so much more upset about this than all previous times succubi speech bubbles went pink.
Probably because this comic predates the era of society being paradoxically more perverse and prudish than ever before simultaneously.
What other times have the succubus auras resulted in people being forced into sex?
The closest I can think of is when Jabberwokky was obsessed with Dabbler and they took actions to stop anything happening until the effect wore off.
Quote:
“If you wonder how he eats and breathes and other science facts – remind yourself it’s just a show, you really should relax.”
Sanity, at last! So refreshing!
People, please calm down and let DaveB. finish telling his fictional story.
I dig the reference, I wish I could upvote you. :)
I get the feeling that Archon goes through a lot of lecterns.
Is Maxima ever going to get a comeuppance about her severe attitude problem regarding these things? Her temper and threats are really pushing it on the uh, supernatural racism? Is that what I should call it? Girl needs a serious talk with a therapist experienced in all of these otherworldly things. And maybe some lessons in the biologies and cultures of those she interacts with regularly because that was like saying, “I will fucking starve you for a month, completely oblivious and uncaring to the risks *that* presents.”
Where did she say that Dabbles will starve? She simply can’t have sex, not that she can’t still feed off of others having sex
Also, that’s only IF she can’t do it without using mind control to get consent
It’s a severe attitudinal problem that a team mate should not be mind controlled?
Really?