Grrl Power #1192 – Cornhole-quan-do
Sydney’s ADHD is such that she can’t even stay on topic when she’s mad at someone. Well, sometimes she can, but the finger-in-the-butt tactic for dogs begs discussion about extended tactical options.
Honestly, a lot of movie fight scenes are fairly boring because they’re all so similar. Two guys slugging it out is forgettable because we’ve all seen it a thousand times. The only things that stand out are unusual moves. That’s why the fight in They Live was so memorable because it was a scuffle, not two guys throwing punches six inches over the other guy’s head. (That’s another thing that bugs me about fight scenes, but I digress.) It’s why John Wick and his point blank gunplay is memorable, why Ong Bak was memorable. Nobody throws elbows in Hollywood films. It’s also why almost everything Jackie Chan did was memorable. Yeah, he punched and kicked, but he also launched wooden clogs at people and fought drunk and grabbed dudes by their ties and dove through ladders and fought with those short Chinese benches. For the love of god, don’t let Jackie Chan near a short Chinese bench during a fight. I couldn’t find a better fight with a bench on youtube, so here’s an actual good fight sans bench. (BTW, pay attention to the fact that there are extras lying unconscious around that scene trying not to flinch while those two go ham five feet from them. They’re the real heroes.)
And just for fun, here’s the awesome fight against his own bodyguard Ken Lo in Drunken Master 2. Which as it happens does have an unusual chin to the eyeball move. Honestly, with just the right amount of stubble, that could be a crippling move. You almost never see eye-gouging, probably because it’s viewed as a dishonorable tactic, so you don’t want the protagonist doing it, and you don’t get the antag doing it because you don’t want the protag getting blinded.
Understand I’m not advocating for more fingers in the butts during hollywood fight scenes specifically. But… it would be pretty fucking memorable.
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Kancho strike!
Jackie does actually throw some elbow shots in his drunken master style, although I dont think I’ve ever seen one connect. But the attempt is there.
Elbow shots are close-quarter or a grapple-breaking maneuver, like if someone grabbed you from behind and tried to choke you. you simply shift your hip, and strike at the ribs. 1-3 times is able to cause enough pain to make someone try to escape the pain and releases you. I’d either spin and knee to the chin, or grab their head and toss them over me. it really depends on how fast they recover, and how confident you felt at the moment. The over the shoulder toss buys you time if their choke hold weakened you but if you were able to break free quick, the knee would either stagger them or knock them down. The down-side of a knee or a punch is if they had training they could avoid it easily, in my day fellow trainees were rare. today, not so much.
Parfait, Mistress of the Zipless Fuck.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear_of_Flying_(novel)#The_zipless_fuck
I’m but could you add an example of a zipless fuck because I’m still not sure I understand.
Now THAT is a reference I haven’t seen in easily twenty years. Nice!
Noooooo Sydney why would you stop THAT?! I hope you haven’t ruined it for rest of the building…
Especially those who will now need to spend some time in the toilets solo before they can return to work, assuming the effect was rather short. (Unless they continue without the aura effect)
Please never attempt the finger in the butt to stop a dog. It doesn’t work on a really angry dog. I had two dogs that hated each other. Like we couldn’t let them near each other without a fight starting. To make matters worse, one of the two was a rescued fight dog. I’ve broken up a lot of dog fights. I’ve got the scars to prove it. During a particularly nasty exchange between the two when someone didn’t close the door fast enough. I had one of the two by the head and neck. My wife in her panic tried the little trick to the them to stop. It didn’t help, 8f anything it just made her a new target. Some dogs frenzy like berserkers, nothing will stop them.
I suspect it’s also a case that a human might react to the various social and cultural implications of it while an animal simply keeps viewing it as an attack without any such thoughts confusing it’s interpretation.
And if you are going to attempt a finger in an angry dog’s butt, please make sure you live stream it.
2 things, dog attacks.. IF the dog is charging, watch it, when it drops to pounce, you drop.. it throws off it’s attack and will miss you. (usually)
then,, IF it is going to bite,. make a spear hand, (fingers straight, and bunched, not flat like knife hand..) when it lunges jamb your hand in its mouth, down it’s throat.. now it can’t bite you. (NOT on dogs that lock its jaw! like bulldogs.)
When I was a teen, I was walking through a run-down trailer park, and everyone that had dogs and was letting then run free. I was almost to my friends trailer (about 60 feet) when a pack of dogs came at me barking and snarling. I wasn’t worried about the big ones as much as the smaller dogs, they can lunge under most defense. That would take me off balance and the rest would attack, so what I did was to keep moving towards my friends place, backing up the rest of the way, waving side to side quickly with a hard, stiff hand. When one tried it, it got a hard slap! That caused the rest to hesitate, allowing me to reach my friends place. NOT a fun night! I took the long way around after that ;) I was grateful to my training, you try waving your hand fast and hard for 10 mins!
The point of a dog lunging is to get up at you. If you “drop” you better be able to get back on your feet before the dog recovery or else you are in a much worse position — and while we might all like to think we are badasses, there simply aren’t that many people who think beyond a step or two and can quickly adapt to a combat scenario FAST ENOUGH to actually take on an animal.
The down the throat thing is much more actionable and is actually valid for most medium to large mammalian threats — if you are gonna get bit, getting bit in a way that will either make them gag and give you a chance to get out OR choke them out is as best a resolution as most people can manage.
Did exactly this in college, accidently: the Master’s dog (a German Shepard) had gotten lose in the quad, just as I was coming in through one of the gates, right at dusk. He came running toward me. Being a dumb *ss college kid, I thought “He wants to play” and went to a knee to properly give him head rubs … just as he lunged. Went over my head, landed on my backpack, and I timed standing back up perfectly (again, accidentally) to throw him onto his back, on the brick walkway. He whined, scrambled back up and took off like a shot back across the quad to home (College Master had a house in the corner of the quad, part of the job) I stood there and went “Huh. I think he tried to bite my throat …” then went to dinner. Later found out he had already nipped at least one student, so got banned from being on campus.
You have to understand a thing about dogs, their means of attack varies between breeds, and the one that charged at me was no bigger than a beagle, German Shepard go for a leg or arm, a Mastiff/Rottweiler goes for the throat. I wasn’t facing a pack of dogs, I was facing random dogs from many trailers, all focus on me. Of every size, I counted 8 at one point. Small dogs are more likely to attack, always the lower legs/ankles. I never did understood why. My son had a Shitzu/Spitz mix that decided to attack a pitbull once, we buried him in the yard.
Really like the moment where the breeze from Urquidez’s roundhouse kick put out all five candles in a candelabra (I had to go back to confirm). I wonder how many takes that needed.
That clip really exemplified one of my pet peeves about movie fights, though: when a fighter’s blow stuns an opponent, and they pull back to let them recover. Press the advantage!
Or, when it’s fifty on one… and they take turns getting their arse beat instead of bum-rushing the fucker!
Sure, a lot will go down, but not all of them, and not without them burying them under bodies
There’s a limit to the number of people that can attack a single person and not get in each other’s way. If you literally outnumber someone 50:1 how many of that 50 are going to be able to get into contact with the 1 all at the same time? But there should never be fewer than three in this sort of situation. Also, one of the main benefits to outnumbering someone in a fight is that you can rotate through people so the outnumbered party never has a chance to get a definitive disabling blow. There’s an AMAZING example of this in Enter the Dragon. The character’s sister is forced into a running fight through a city and although individually she outclasses all of her attackers she’s outnumbered, I forget exactly, but at least 6:1. She’s constantly knocking guys down to get clear but she never has the opportunity to stand and fight to just end a dude until eventually she’s exhausted and cornered. If it was a series of 1:1 fights, she probably could have come out on top but they just kept harassing her, using their numbers to stay in contact and keep track of her as she fled and fought her way across the city.
I saw that n a manga from way last century, the answer is 4 max before they start getting in each other’s way.
That depends on a number of factors, including the average size of the attackers and the fighting style used. If your attackers are (metaphorical) gorillas and they’re using a style with a lot of big moves, throws, and kicks (eg. judo, tae kwon do), then you may not have room for more than three. On the other hand, if your attackers run about the size of Bruce Lee or Jet Li and are using a very tight punching style (eg. aikido, jeet kun do), then you might get as many as six or seven around a single opponent – maybe even eight, if they’ve practiced coordinating their attacks.
But yes, four is probably about right for a mob of poorly or moderately trained mooks. ;-)
Again, that only matters if the attackers care about getting in each others’ way, or if they just want to overwhelm the target, in which case: the first few will be going down (they would be anyway) but if they are smart (or at least trained) they will fall either on the target or close to reduce their manoeuvrability – they can’t really do much with a mook hanging on to their leg, or arm, and, like said, the rest bum-rush and dogpile
A good boss will pay extra (special medical or funeral) for the ones who provide the most hindrance to the target, not the wuss who hangs back too scared to get hit
From my experience with that we called “posting drills” or “man-in-the-middle” when I was training, even 4 attackers can easily end up interfering with one another if the target is practiced in exploiting lack of coordination between multiple opponents.
That, in fact, was the point of the drills–you place one student in the center of the ring, surrounded by other students. The goal of the student in the middle is to complete the round without getting hit. Rounds typically lasted either 90 seconds or 3 minutes…or until the student disarmed all of their attackers. The key to success was not staying in the middle any longer than you absolutely had to; when you’re outnumbered, generally the first priority is to aggressively break any encirclement. Once you’re out, you have far more options.
I watched it a couple times to confirm as well. It’s possible it was a serendipitous occurrence, or required a huge number of takes, but they might have instead rigged up something to send a wave/puff of air and timed it properly (which may have taken a few retakes on its own) to generate the illusion of the candles being blown out by the kick. Of course, that scene wasn’t entirely sans bench – around the 52 second mark, Jackie hops over one of those small Chinese benches… then just pushes it away from the fight with a kick.
As for not pushing the advantage and giving their opponent an opportunity to recover, I often see that as a case of Conspicuous Honor (there’s probably a better term, but whatever). They’re basically showing themselves to be an honorable fighter and/or showing their opponent respect by giving them a chance to recover before continuing the fight. It’s like in Princess Bride when Inigo helped Wesley up the side of the cliff and then allowed him a chance to rest before their fight (and how during the fight Wesley gave him a chance to recover his weapon after a disarm). It can also be thought of as something akin to Counting Coup, which is related (it falls under the Conspicuous Honor umbrella).
Finger dude reminds me more of that bald guy from “Gotham”, the assassin who cuts himself every time he makes a kill
Victor Zsasz…
Now, there’s a well-written piece of brain-damage.
Thank yous, knew it was something weird
I always think Sydney looks so much better with her hair down like this. Looks like it took her a while to muster up that defense, based on the number of lipstick marks and the amount of clothing lost in the struggle.
She only had a single t-shirt on, not much to lose
Why is Astarian getting a thumb up his ass in a parking lot?
Probably because he got a bit… thirsty. Why else?
Oh, thank Jeebus, Syney fought off her rapist. Yes, was still rape. She even had her clothes ripped off ffs.
That being said, if this ends up in CONSENSUAL sex and retconning Syd’s sexual preference, I call asspull. Also, please don’t try to explain how this totally wasn’t what it looked like and it would be nice to acknowledge the HR and LEGAL nightmare this is. Not everyone is a super with a pornstar body.
Jeez, imagine coming to your senses and realizing you had a train run on you by the janitorial staff or that you slept with your coworker/superior while being magically coerced but are still expected to pay child support.
*or her cloths were removed while she was under the influence. That’s not really better.
I am glad to see that she’s managed to fight her off, though I am also curious as to how she was able to do so? The rest of the building clearly could not control their impulses underneath Parfait’s aura and Sydney was right there at ground zero.
Because she knew what was happening. Everyone else just felt horny, Sydney knew she was being mind-controlled, so she was able to resist. Same thing happened with Kevin’s violence aura.
Not to mention, ADHD is a wonderful defense against mind control in general. I remember the assassination training scene in Zoolander (though bimbo there, not ADHD), but the same problem exists.
“Ignore all the beautiful people.”
Though in Syndny’s case, it was probaly a wild tangent between getting over heated, then thinking about how the Flash needed a uniform that handled friction, to uncomfortable feelings, to finger up the butt, to defense against the purple arts. Then a brief tangent into Harry Pottery before going back to eyeball licking.
We’ve seen her use her ADHD to counteract a powerful truth serum to buy time, all by telling the truth about a gazillion meaningless things.
The rest of them clearly COULD control their impulses, as they all teamed up with previous partners. Or do you simply mean that no-one else said no sex or masturbation, cause if so, Maxima and Dabbler are effected but not acting on it.
This is true only if you forget that EVERYONE in the building was influenced by Parfait’s sexual aura. That means Sydney was too. The only difference was that unlike the others, she stopped in mid-stream. I doubt this page was meant to imply Parfait raped her. I think it was meant to imply they were both in full sexual rage, but Sydney took control.
That’s still rape my man, or attempted at least. “She managed to fight off the drugs” isn’t a defense for sexual assault.
I’m thinking there’s a mens rea issue with your assertion.
Has anyone seen Pander lately? This is her bailiwick.
Also…I miss her. \=(
Yeah punning is more fun when she’s around.
You’re just a glutton for pun-ishment.
She just panders to your kink :)
Tip your veal, and try the waitress, I’ll be here until Saturday.
Sorry I’ve been sick with strep throat, following moving. It’s been a nasty month. :)
Just got my computer set up again and caught up on the comic.
And while normally this would be considered attempted rape, Bharda is correct that, with Parfait, there is a defense for diminished capacity resulting in a lack of the necessary mens rea required to commit a crime like this (there are several types of liability involved in crimes as far as mental state is concerned. Rape definitely requires intent to commit rape (except in cases of statutory rape, which would be strict liability and do not require intent to commit the crime).
Most crimes require three elements though (although some require only two of the three elements) – mens rea (criminal intent), actus reus (criminal action), and concurrence of the aforementioned two elements. Sometimes causation is also required (ie, harm caused by the criminal act and intent).
With what happened between Parfait and Sydney (and with Parfait and pretty much the entire building) the problem is that Parfait did NOT have criminal intent – if anything, it could be argued that she tried to get Sydney to stop it from happening when she realized her lust aura was going out of control.
There could still possibly be a charge involving negligence though, since Parfait did not warn Sydney about the dangers involvedin talking about her collar that could set off her lust aura (ie must like how crimes like involuntary manslaughter, criminal neglect, or negligent endangerment of children do not require mens rea).
With rape htough, even if Sydney was to bring charges (which i doubt she is going to do), and assuming ARCHON isnt going to pursue criminal charges (probably not for, if anything, diplomatic reasons), I can’t think of any criminal charges that involve rape WITHOUT intent, aside from statutory rape which does not fit here.
PS – please no puns right now. I’m still in a weakened state from the strep throat and my doctor said puns may kill me. Honest. Wait a week. It’ll give my voice time to recover so I can call the Ninja Emporium.
PPS – Missed you too :)
Yeah, I made the point about her seeking intervention in stopping the thing, but I also pointed out that there could possibly be a pretty cut & dry negligence case.
Welcome back, and I’m sorry you’re sick!
I can give you the recipe for my family’s ‘bronchitis tea.’ We developed it to help my dad deal with his annual nearly-fatal infections resulting from injuries & exposures in the 70’s. Tastes awful, but really does work.
Unfortunately I can’t drink most teas (and coffee) because I can’t process oxalates (it’s a quick trip to the hospital for me), but I appreciate the offer. I am instead using good ol’ prednisone and antibiotics.
I should be better in a few more days at my current progress. :)
I’m having more trouble with “can’t drink tea,” than any other part of that sentence.
I think I might lose my will to live.
Oh. One of my kidneys can’t process something called oxalates well, so I can’t drink tea or coffee, can’t eat most leafy veggies, and have to severely limit intake of cola-flavored sodas and chocolate to approximately 8 oz a day (and preferably drink a lot of water afterwards). If I don’t keep to that weird diet, one of my kidneys can get an infection which basically feels like someone is stabbing me in the side with a rusty pickaxe and twisting it. Definitely not something I want to experience ever again, especially on top of strep.
Take care and get better.
Thanks. Should be back to good health in a few more days after I finish my cocktail of prednisone and antibiotics. Finally able to speak again at least. Looking forward to being able to eat solid food again.
To resist puns you should include punicillin in your antibiotic cocktail.
You couldnt even give me 2 days you fiend.
Fine. Texting the Ninja Emporium on the new Ninja Hit Squad App.
I shall leave this for your perusal. Not a pun in it. I swear.
THE PASSIVE AGRESSIVE RAVEN, rewritten by Random Guy.
Once upon a Monday dreary, while I pondered weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and spurious episode of scripted lore,
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,
As of some one gently rapping, rapping at my chamber door.
`’Tis some solicitor,’ I grumbled, `tapping at my chamber door –
Only this, and nothing more.’
Ah, distinctly I remember it was in the bleak December,
And each cast member called the other ‘that dirty whore’.
Eagerly I wished the morrow; – vainly I had sought to borrow
From my shows surcease of sorrow – sorrow for the loss of mind –
For the rare and radiant maiden whom the angels created blind –
Always quoting ‘Nevermind’.
And the silken sad uncertain rustling of each purple curtain
Thrilled me – filled me with fantastic dread never felt before;
So that now, to still the beating of my heart, I stood repeating
`’Tis some missionary entreating entrance on my peace of mind –
Some flyer jocky entreating entrance on my peace of mind; –
This it is, so nevermind,’
Presently my soul grew stronger; hesitating then no longer,
`Sir,’ said I, `or Madam, truly your forgiveness I implore;
But the fact is I was napping, and so gently you came rapping,
And so faintly you came tapping, tapping at my chamber door,
That I scarce was sure I heard you’ – here I side to side; –
Nothing there, ‘Nevermind’.
Deep into the daylight peering, long I stood there irritation, searing,
Doubting, dreaming schemes no mortal ever dared to dream before;
But the TV silence, unbroken, and the glare gave no token,
And the only word there spoken was the whispered word, `Nevermind!’
This I whispered, and an echo murmured back the word, `Nevermind!’
Railing darkly on my mind.
Back into the chamber turning, an anger within me burning,
Soon again I heard a tapping somewhat louder than before.
`Surely,’ said I, `surely that is something at my window lattice;
Let me see then, what thereat is, and this mystery find –
Let my heart be still a moment and this mystery find; –
‘Tis the wind and nevermind!’
Open here I flung the shutter, when, with many a flirt and flutter,
In there stepped a stately raven of the saintly days of yore.
Not the least obeisance made he; not a minute stopped or stayed he;
But, with mien of lord or lady, perched above my roller blind –
Perched upon a bust of Elvis just above my roller blind-
Perched, and sat, oh nevermind.
Then this ebony bird beguiling my sad fancy into smiling,
By the grave and stern decorum of the countenance it wore,
`Though thy crest be shorn and shaven, thou,’ I said, `art sure no craven.
Ghastly grim and ancient raven wandering for the morning grind-
Tell me what thy lordly name on the Days Turning find!’
Quoth the raven, `Nevermind.’
Much I marvelled this ungainly fowl to hear discourse so plainly,
Though its answer little meaning – little relevancy bore;
For we cannot help agreeing that no living human being
Ever yet was blessed with seeing bird above his roller blind-
Bird or beast above the sculptured bust above his roller blind,
With such name as `Nevermind.’
But the raven, sitting lonely on the placid bust, spoke only,
That one word, as if his soul in that one word he did outpour.
Nothing further then he uttered – not a feather then he fluttered –
Till I scarcely more than muttered `Other friends have grown unkind –
On the morrow he will leave me, as my hopes have grown unkind.’
Then the bird said, `Nevermind.’
Startled at the stillness broken by reply so aptly spoken,
`Doubtless,’ said I, `what it utters is its only stock and store,
Caught from some dimwitted master whom intellectual disaster
Followed fast and followed faster till his songs one burden find –
Till the dirges of his hope that melancholy burden find
Of “Never-nevermind.”‘
But the raven still beguiling all my sad soul into smiling,
Straight I wheeled a cushioned seat in front of bird and bust and door;
Then, upon the velvet sinking, I betook myself to linking
Fancy unto fancy, thinking if this ominous bird maligned –
What this grim, ungainly, ghastly, gaunt, if ominous bird maligned
When in croaking `Nevermind.’
This I sat engaged in guessing, but no syllable expressing
To the fowl whose fiery eyes now burned into my bosom’s core;
This and more I sat divining, with my head at ease reclining
On the cushion’s velvet lining that the TV light glowing, sighed,
But whose velvet violet lining with the TV light glowing, sighed,
She shall press, ah, nevermind!
Then, methought, the air grew denser, perfumed from an unseen censer
Swung by Seraphim whose foot-falls tinkled on the tufted floor.
`Wretch,’ I cried, `thy God hath lent thee – by these angels he has sent thee
Respite – respite and nepenthe from thy thoughts most unkind!
Quaff, oh quaff this kind nepenthe, and forget this thought unkind!’
Quoth the raven, `Nevermind.’
`Prophet!’ said I, `thing of evil! – prophet still, if bird or devil! –
Whether specter sent, or whether tempest tossed thee here ashore,
Desolate yet all undaunted, on this desert land enchanted –
On this home by mindless haunted – tell me truly, I must find –
Is there – is there balm in Reality? – tell me – tell me, I must find!’
Quoth the raven, `Nevermind.’
`Prophet!’ said I, `thing of evil! – prophet still, if bird or devil!
By that Heaven that bends above us – by that God we both adore –
Tell this soul with sorrow laden if, within the distant Aidenn,
Shall he clasp sainted maiden whom the angels fated most unkind-
Clasp a rare and radiant maiden, whom the angels fated most unkind?’
Quoth the raven, `Nevermind.’
`Be that word our sign of parting, bird or fiend!’ I shrieked upstarting –
`Get thee back into the tempest and the Days Turning whore!
Leave no black plume as a token of that lie thy soul hath spoken!
Leave my loneliness unbroken! – quit the bust above my roller blind!
Take thy beak from out my heart, and take thy form from off my roller blind!’
Quoth the raven, `Nevermind.’
And the raven, never flitting, sometimes shitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Elvis just above my roller blind;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon’s that is dreaming,
And the TV-light o’er him streaming throws his shadow far behind;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating far behind
Shall be lifted… nevermind!
I am ridiculously impressed by this post.
Awesome.
Thing is, Parf herself may not have known that talking about getting collared would trigger this
This may even be a first for any succubae (because they normally would be talking to another succubae, or have the required potions at the first signs of getting Lusty, like taking aspirin at the first signs of a headaches… or when a lawyer starts talking :P )
That’s true as well. She is a VERY new ‘fully empowered succubus’ after all, and is just starting to learn how to use her powers. Which means even a negligence-based crime might not apply (if one existed for rape or sexual assault, which it doesnt as of current year in our world, and probably not in the Grrlpowerverse either).
It does seem, however, that she recognized what was happening once it was too late though, since she knew that she needed something called a ‘nmora salka’ to stop her lust aura from going out of control or, barring that, a sleep potion to knock her out since apparently the lust aura does require the succubus to be conscious. She might just have been unaware that just talking about the collaring would set it off.
Zack Tilly! She recognized what was happening after, but she possibly didn’t know that talking about being collared would cause it until it happened
To get a little ‘messy’: it’s like someone who is lactose intolerant (but don’t know it… yet) and needs to take a massive dump after eating their first yoghurt, they recognize the feelings of the gurgle in the bowels and what is about to happen if they don’t find a toilet like right now! but didn’t realise until this time that the yoghurt was responsible
I’m not your man, and I’m trying to determine if you’re being intentionally thick. If two people on drugs are willingly making out, and one stops, it’s only rape if the other doesn’t. That was depicted here. Sydney used force because she decided to stop and Parfait didn’t. Not sure why you’d assume the artist was depicting rape in a non-sex comic. Use bloody common sense.
Actually, drugs CAN be a defense if they did not knowingly take the drugs in the first place (it also removes the ability to consent usually). If someone takes drugs knowingly, then tries to rape someone, then it’s not a defense to the crime any more than it would be a defense to hitting someone with a car while driving under the influence.
But with Parfait, the main problem with saying she’s guilty of a crime here would be the mens rea that would be required for a charge of rape, as Bharda correctly stated. If anything, a person could argue she was trying to STOP it from happening from what she was saying to Sydney right before it happened, and was no longer in control of herself for reasons which might not be something she caused (Sydney had no way to know that talking about collaring sets off the lust aura or that Parfait is too young to be able to resist it – there would have to be some new type of criminal charge for this sort of thing, if any charge at all – and you can’t retroactively charge someone for a crime which did not exist at the time the action was taken).
There is also the fact that Sydney is aware of what is happening, everyone else is not aware that there is an external influence.
More likely than not Sydneys ADHD will be to blame for genting her mind out of the sex to put a stop to it.
This is still a better case than women consenting to sex, regreting it later and retconning it to sexual assault.
Yeah, that happens incredibly commonly compared to men claiming that the sexual assault was consensual sex…
If they regret it later, maybe they weren’t fully consenting in the first place. “Consent” isn’t another word for “gave permission”.
Actually, it is the same thing. People may knowingly agree to have sex for valid reasons besides being actively interested in it at that moment or being attracted to that person, such as wanting to reward the partner or being paid or given compensation for it. People change their mind about their past actions and regret them all the time, but it is not a valid excuse to change the status of past events concerning other persons. Buyer’s or seller’s remorse does not entitle anyone to demand reversal of the purchase, unless a previous agreement to that effect exists. Regretting a medical procedure does not entitle anyone to have it treated like assault.
First, Dave….love your comic…I think the last couple of weeks have been superb.
The rest of you…
1) There’s not a shred of evidence that the others weren’t already getting their jollies (it could be regular Saturday night behavior, we don’t know)
2) You been throwing that rape term around awful freely. If I walked up behind my boss and kissed her on the neck it could be harassment but not rape. Harassment depends if it was unwanted. Parfait/Sidney…If Sidney pressed charges it would be what, misdemeanor assault? It’s like cussing, if you use the f-bomb in every f-ing sentence, it becomes meaningless.
3) As for breaking up the dog attack, who was the first one to try sticking a finger up the dog’s butt?
> There’s not a shred of evidence that the others weren’t already getting their jollies (it could be regular Saturday night behavior, we don’t know
Considering Arianna’s booty call thought it was a work emergency at first, it’s definitely not normal behavior for her.
Also the guard in the booth from last page would hardly keep their job if this was their normal behavior.
Yes and no, just cause Arianna rarely does a bootycall, doesn’t mean she’s not actively choosing something.
It has definitely clouded minds about appropriateness, but there’s no proof Math and Jabberwock do or don’t end every sparring session like this (Math was at least prepared for the toplessness), or that peggy and her menage weren’t already going on, since the timeline is unclear.
From everything we have been shown, people are doing lusty things that they already wanted to do. No-ones cheating or breaking their morals, though they might be breaking workplace rules. Hell, Sydney probably fought it off because despite it being a succubus, she’s not really into chicks.
And it is understood in universe that this is an issue for Parfait. She should be keeping this under control, and until we see how they punish it, or anything to confirm the more negative views on it all, its all getting over-heated.
Though the adjecency to real world horrifying issues does not help.
> doesn’t mean she’s not actively choosing something.
Yes, but actively choosing mean less when your mind is influenced to make you choose things you otherwise wouldn’t.
Thats fair, but currently we have no evidence that these people otherwise wouldn’t. From how in deep some people already were, some of these things may have already been happening.
Anytime you have a military base there will be hook-ups, but we are seeing the ENTIRE base is engaged in “hooking up.” Only Sydney was able to resist it,and it took her some effort to do it or she’d still have her top on. Events like this is the reason succubi are looked down on, and Parfait didn’t help that outlook just now. She’s not ready to be around humans for an extended period of time as yet, and Sydney knows that, now…
Remember when Sydney started her training? She got her gun from Peggy, in a baggie. For good reason. Parfait is in the same boat, and you can’t put a succubus’s powers in a baggie for training.
We do, at least for some of them. Arianna’s booty call didn’t understand what she wanted, so there’s no way she did it before. The guard in the booth would be expected to hold it until they’re off duty.
also just wanted to add, the far away booty call shouldn’t be effected by the aura yet, and does not question Arianna’s request as unusual or out of character at all.
The booty call initially thinks they’re supposed to come in for an emergency. Booty call is so unusual they didn’t even of think of it at first.
Except that it still ISN’T rape, even if you want to insist that it is. Parfait established exactly why it was NOT rape, when she stopped and reestablished her own self-control. The two of them were both inebriated (the equivalent of being extremely drunk) due to Parfait’s lust aura, WHICH SHE IS STILL LEARNING TO CONTROL.
Rape is a deliberate act, in which one party says, “I consent but you don’t, and I don’t care about your lack of consent.” This was the equivalent of two people getting really drunk and waking up in bed with hangovers and filthy sheets. (Or would have been, except one of the drunks said, “wait, wait… let’s not do the thing that results in hangovers and regrets,” and the other said, “right… hic! Good point…)
also, the aura wouldn’t count as rape either… if you consider something intrinsic to her being as rapey, you’d also have to force atractive people to wear a niqab.
you don’t blame atractive women who are raped for their attractiveness (and rightly so), you blame the weakminded fool who couldn’t resist his urges… same goes for the aura, if anybody coudln’t resist, it is their fault for being weakwilled.
I’d say this is kinda like accusing someone with epilepsy of assault when they had a seizure. Sure, steps need to be taken to avoid harm from seizures in the future, but calling it assault is a bit much.
Parfait lost control of her powers, she actively tried to put a stop to it, failed, and got swept along like everyone else.
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All that being said, literal sex demons are always going to make the question of consent… iffy. Canonically always-on literally hypnotic cleavage. Power to get people lust-drunk on a whim. Horny-sense is a form of mind reading, which also results in consent issues.
not sure how efficient liking the eyeball of you sexual agressor is, but a way to fight off still begetter than none.
also, yeah, this will be a hell to the HR to resolve
In this thread: people who read an openly ecchi comic take ecchi themes too seriously for online clout. Go take it somewhere else. There’s real problems in the world and this isn’t any of them.
Man, you guys are making some really weak comparisons and victim blaming alot.
“I’m thinking there’s a mens rea issue with your assertion.”
Luckily crime is based on mens rea AND/OR actus reus. Which is why involuntary manslaughter is a thing.
“1) There’s not a shred of evidence that the others weren’t already getting their jollies (it could be regular Saturday night behavior, we don’t know)”
-_-
“2) You been throwing that rape term around awful freely. If I walked up behind my boss and kissed her on the neck it could be harassment but not rape. Harassment depends if it was unwanted. Parfait/Sidney…If Sidney pressed charges it would be what, misdemeanor assault? It’s like cussing, if you use the f-bomb in every f-ing sentence, it becomes meaningless.”
Call me when you try to stick your dick in her.
“The two of them were both inebriated (the equivalent of being extremely drunk) due to Parfait’s lust aura, WHICH SHE IS STILL LEARNING TO CONTROL.”
Inebriated? No, more like drugged. Sydney did not choose this, it was done TO her.
“also, the aura wouldn’t count as rape either… if you consider something intrinsic to her being as rapey, you’d also have to force atractive people to wear a niqab.”
Not a crime if it’s an intrinsic part of you? Interesting statement. Every clinical socio/psychopath says hi. Don’t wanna count that because it’s intrinsic on a personal level? Every statutory rapist says hi, changing the age of consent from ‘is she menstruating?’ to 16-18 was a social choice not a biological one.
“This was the equivalent of two people getting really drunk and waking up in bed with hangovers and filthy sheets. ”
Again, no. Sydney is not “drinking”, to continue your metaphor she was slipped something. Parfait also being on that same something doesn’t change what was done to Sydney. You’re victim blaming.
“Intrinsics”
or if you won’t accept statutory grapeists as an example because it’s icky and you don’t like me implying you’re an apologist: Vampires & Werewolves
Instead of sex Parfait tries to drain Sydney.
Is it Syd’s fault for having a sleepover with a vampire, whos need for blood is an INTRINSIC aspect of vampirism? NO
Is it not attempted murder if Syd managed to smack her upside the head with a cross before it went further? NO
Does Count Parfaitula’s inability to control her thirst absolve her or mean it isn’t attempted murder? NO
Does Count Parfaitula not choosing to be a vampire absolve her? NO
Would Syd being mesmerized before being drained mean it’s consensual? NO
Same goes for werewolves and going wild.
Weird how it’s different when hot sweaty sex is involved.
“I, a vampire, am still learning to control myself, it may be unsafe” pretty similar to what parfait said earlier.
Hell yes, if you have a vampire over who says they have control issues then start doing neck stretches in front of them after watching the elevator scene from the shining on repeat, you are taking an informed risk.
And, Parfait stopped when stopped. “Oh it took too much to get her attention.”
Sydney is a superhero, who believed she could control the situation. And she was correct.
Keep in mind, the ENTIRE BASE if effected by Parfait, and there were several hook-ups that were not normal by both supers and norms. Sydney was effected as well, but realized what was happening and fought it off, stopping Parfait dead in her out-of-control acts. The only people not effected was Max and of course Dabbler, Even Max was to the point of nearly ripping out her dress blue. The lust aura is like the number one spell for a succubus’s means of “recharging” so it’s nearly as powerful as their glamor.
Not to single you out, but I can’t resist any longer. The word you’re looking for is “affect”, not “effect”. While “effect” is a verb as well as a noun, the meaning is slightly different. “affect” means for one thing to cause a change in another. “effect” means to make something happen.
To be “affected” means that something happened to you.
To be “effected” means that you happened.
With the specific exception of statutory rape, which remains a rather controversial notion with widely variable applications in different societies, to my knowledge ‘involuntary rape’ has not been defined as a crime in any nation on Earth. Not that the sex-negative radical feminists would not in all likelihood be happy to, but thankfully they do not dominate society to this extent. Crimes that lack a mens rea requirement tend to be few and far between, and even when they exist, society tends to differentiate them sharply from the mens rea equivalent.
You keep willfully ignoring that Parfait’s lust aura went out of control and she struggled but failed to stop it. She pleaded for unavailable magical aid she knew of. She lacked the training means to do so. From that moment up to the point Syd shocked Parf out of it with her clever super-spicy eye-licking, Parf’s runaway power could and should be deemed an independent entity acting on instinct that affected anyone in the building equally, including Parf herself. Because of how succubae were designed by their creators long ago, a young, inexperienced one in all evidence was the least equipped person to resist its effects. We saw how hard it is to resist an order from a master for untrained succubae, in all likelihood a runaway lust aura works the same.
What happened is the supernatural equivalent of a libido-boosting, inhibitions-lowering psychoactive substance being accidentally released in the building to be breathed/drunk/ingested by everyone present. This included Syd and Parf. They were supernaturally drugged by an agent that was acting independently from Parf at the time. That it was tied to Parf’s body/mind/soul is irrelevant. Syd was simply exceptionally good to resist its effects, probably b/c of her nature and since she and Parf were the only ones knowing what was happening.
Unless Dave chooses to change her attitude, overall personality, and apparent initial response from what we know, Syd does not seem any likely or willing to resent or blame her friend for what happened, or treat her as anything like a rapist. She knows it was an accident nobody willed to happen, and she and Parf share responsibility about.
Perhaps Sydney should.
The argument that “Parfait couldn’t control herself” isn’t all that different from the argument that men can’t control themselves when they see underdressed women. The latter argument is a lie.
All we know for sure is that Succubi are taught they have biological and nearly uncontrollable desires for sex and masters. Perhaps neither of those things are actually true.
Perhaps Parfait is simply a rapist from a culture which encourages rape under the pretenses of succubi’s “cultural origins”.
Succubi were deliberately engineered to have those features, and suffer associated medical complications far beyond anything acculturated placebo effect could reasonably explain. That doesn’t seem like the kind of thing Dabbler would be wrong about, given her overall intelligence and how much effort she put into researching her own biology and ancestry.
“The argument that “Parfait couldn’t control herself” isn’t all that different from the argument that men can’t control themselves when they see underdressed women, [except for the fact that] the latter argument is a lie [and from the canon we’ve received thus far the former most likely isn’t].”
Fixed it for you.
I think there’s some really interesting philosophical space to be explored within the fanon you’re putting together, but I doubt that’s where Dave’s going with things and I don’t really want to assume a nice character’s a rapist based on worldbuilding done by someone other than the author.
The neat thing about fiction is that it presents opportunities to explore possibilities that we do not believe are true in the real world. It allows us to ask questions like “how morally culpable is someone who is literally unable to control their actions?” Breaking moral questions down into the component parts helps us to determine not only what is right or wrong, but why, which also helps us extend our moral reasoning to new moral questions, which is critical in a rapidly changing world.
What a nonsense. Human male rapists are not a single-sex species and do not have a whole load of sex-related supernatural abilities, such as hypnotic pecs/groin, a lust aura, glamour, ability to mate with a wide range of species, ability to bond with a master, innate potential for tantric magic, and ability to drive people horny that are out of their line of sight. A quite reasonable explanation for having such a set of specialized abilities is they were designed in the species. This matches the evidence about the biology and history of their species that the matriarchs and Dabbler researched.
If they are correct about that, and in all evidence they are, it stands to reason that they are also correct about these features coming with a few related medical conditions, such as having a need for a bond with a master to survive past puberty, resisting the commands of a master with great difficulty, and the potential for their sex-related powers to go out of control. These side effects of their nature can only be countered with extensive training and collective safeguards. The cultural aspects of the whole issue are the provisions the species have set up to counter such problems, such as the specialized schools for succubae and the matriarchs’ monitoring of bonds.
>Perhaps Sydney should.
Do what? Turn into a vindictive arsehole and resent a friend and nice character for circumstances that were beyond her control? Besides making her much less sympathetic, it would contradict her established personality and behavior, including the fact she acted totally differently in Concretia’s case.
The definition of a species is that members of the same species are able to mate with eachother. A true single-sex species would by definition reproduce through parthogenesis. The fact that Succubi are able to mate with these other species disproves that Succubi and these other species are actually independent species, and would be better classified as subspecies or races within a larger species of sentient beings.
And yes, I am suggesting that Sydney should turn against Parfait. All the nice things Parfait did? Those could be nothing more than a pretense Parfait used to get close to Sydney, to get the opportunity to “accidentally” unleash her lust aura.
How much easier it is to slip a date rape drug into a drink, if you’ve got an excuse that lets you claim you didn’t do it on purpose or that you didn’t know what the drug would let you do.
If we use a legal one, such as alcohol.
We’re surrounded by monsters.
The monsters don’t even realize that’s what they are.
> The definition of a species is that members of the same species are able to mate with eachother. A true single-sex species would by definition reproduce through parthogenesis. The fact that Succubi are able to mate with these other species disproves that Succubi and these other species are actually independent species, and would be better classified as subspecies or races within a larger species of sentient beings.
This is technically correct if we deal with Earthlike species. However, in all likelihood we should update the definition (and in the Grrlverse, they have shall almost surely do it) if beings like succubae and doppelgangers existed that are able to be interfertile with a wide range of different species with widely different traits.
>And yes, I am suggesting that Sydney should turn against Parfait. All the nice things Parfait did? Those could be nothing more than a pretense Parfait used to get close to Sydney, to get the opportunity to “accidentally” unleash her lust aura.
This is just someone’s rampant paranoia about date rapes being projected on Syd and Parf’s case, where there are no reasonable justification to harbor such wild suspicions. We saw how events unfolded, we know a sizable amount of data about what succubae are and how they behave. There is no probable cause to assume Parf is anything but what she seems to be: a nice, friendly, untrained young succubus that means well but still has poor self-control on her supernatural powers.
>We’re surrounded by monsters.
The monsters don’t even realize that’s what they are.
This is just the kind of unbridled rape paranoia that makes certain people come up with the wildest accusations about the most innocent acts, and makes something like the Pence rule look like a reasonable precaution.
No, I agree that the Pence rule is dumb.
You’re right that I get paranoid regarding this. I don’t consume alcohol myself. If alcohol’s being served, I’d rather not go.
Thing is, when you’re surrounded by monsters the best way to avoid arousing their suspicion is to dine with them and laugh with them.
What you’re describing is what I’d need to tell the monsters if I wanted them on my side.
That sure isn’t how I feel about the whole situation though.
> The definition of a species is that members of the same species are able to mate with eachother. A true single-sex species would by definition reproduce through parthogenesis. The fact that Succubi are able to mate with these other species disproves that Succubi and these other species are actually independent species, and would be better classified as subspecies or races within a larger species of sentient beings.
If we’re going to be that precise, Succubi don’t fit into standard biology at all, because their genetics work on entirely different principles.
We definitely can’t say the other species are not independent. The interbreeding ability in this case is entirely a quirk of the succubus side.
> All we know for sure is that Succubi are taught they have biological and nearly uncontrollable desires for sex and masters. Perhaps neither of those things are actually true.
We have plenty of WoG confirming these stories.
> The argument that “Parfait couldn’t control herself” isn’t all that different from the argument that men can’t control themselves when they see underdressed women. The latter argument is a lie.
The former argument is true. Parfait’s sexuality is literally designed to enslave her.
>Parfait’s sexuality is literally designed to enslave her.
Which itself is an INCREDIBLY interesting look at patriarchy/women in the world, reclaiming sexual freedom while enslaving it, and other issues in our life.
That’s an assumption that goes against everything we’ve been told in story and in out of story excerpts. But I guess it fills your need for a bad guy.
From the Jewish Talmud:
https://www.sefaria.org/Yevamot.54a.1?lang=bi
But didn’t Rabba say: One who fell from a roof and was inserted into a woman due to the force of his fall is liable to pay four of the five types of indemnity that must be paid by one who damaged another: Injury, pain, medical costs, and loss of livelihood. However, he is not liable to pay for the shame he caused her, as he did not intend to perform the act, and if she is his yevama, he has not acquired her in this manner.
I see you’re still trying to claim rape where no rape exists. Including making very, VERY bad comparisons.
” Vampires & Werewolves
Instead of sex Parfait tries to drain Sydney.”
Parfait isn’t TRYING to do anything. A vampire’s attempt to drain Sydney is making the decision to try to eat her because the vampire is hungry. It doesn’t matter how hungry you are, you’re still making a deliberate CHOICE to eat. This is best summed up in Larry Niven’s “Ringworld,” where Speaker (an alien werecat creature, whose ancestors kept trying to conquer and eat humanity) is locked in a room with the human protagonist Louis. When Speaker sighs about having no food source, they have this exchange:
“You know you have a food source. The question is, will you use it?”
“Of course not, Louis. If honor requires me to starve in the presence of meat, I will starve.”
Vampires drink blood, succubi “drink” life force/sexual energy, how is that different? A vamp can partly feed without killing, just as a succubus can feed without draining their “partner” dry. Both can kill at any time, and both know doing that is not only bad, but makes future feeding that much more difficult. The only difference is that vamps can and do “attack” their victims while succubi use a lust aura to make the meal agree to it, just because the victim likes it doesn’t make it any less an attack. How is using a lust spell any different from a roofie in some poor gals drink? The last 2 guys we seen Dabs hook up with were so exhausted they couldn’t stay awake for many hours, she could have kept going until they died if she wanted.
Because the act of feeding is deliberate. As you said, a vampire can partly feed without killing (depending on the vampire). Meaning they make the CHOICE to feed, and how to feed. Parfait didn’t make the choice to use her powers here.
“How is using a lust spell any different from a roofie in some poor gals drink?” In this case, the drink was spiked unintentionally. Dabbler herself only ever uses those lust spells on nonconsenting victims during combat. The guys she hooked up with have been shown to have been consenting even before she used her abilities to heighten their pleasure.
Parfait is newly bonded and not in full control of it, I don’t fault her for that, but she didn’t bring what she should have to stop this from happening. Over-sight or unconscious desire is besides the point. What didn’t help was she wasn’t expecting to be summoned, and in the bath to boot. It was poor planning on both sides, I doubt Parfait has a bag of holding or anything else like that in the bath with her. Lesson learned here, and I’m sure Max is going to do some LONG time yelling at both of them before this story line is finished! Dabs will make sure Syd will send her home and Syd will be getting laps for this I’m sure….
Define “bring what she should.” What should she have brought? I get the feeling you’ve acknowledged that what happened here was accidental, but people are still pushing the notion that it’s somehow sexual assault. This was a big “oopsie,” and mostly on Sydney’s part. Sydney should have known better. Parfait is still pretty much an adolescent, which makes Sydney the responsible adult… which explains why things got this bad…
“nimora salka”, whatever that is.
Which, it would be funny if it was something common or easy to make, and Parfait just doesn’t know the English words for it.
It makes me sad you did not just say “Kzinti” and everyone would have known.
> but are still expected to pay child support.
This is set before Roe fell. No-one having unwanted kids from this.
They’re wealthy celebrities. Roe standing or falling wouldn’t affect them in the slightest.
The SUPERS are wealthy celebrities. “Consuela the cleaning lady” and “Steve the cafeteria cook” aren’t, nor are they supernaturally attractive so tapping that doesn’t offset any potential regrets.
That is a valid concern, but also something that a morning-after pill would easily counter in most cases. IIUC, federal employees get paid leave for an abortion but not coverage for the procedure from their Uncle Sam-related plan (due to arsehole fans of forced birth having controlled the Congress for far too long), so they have to pay from their own pocket or with personal health plans. I am not sure how the policy stands for contraceptives.
Besides, I am under the impression this event happened during a quiet graveyard shift, and not that many people were in Archon HQ at the time. Apart from a few guards and maintenance technicians for critical equipment and infrastructure, how high are the odds of support staff being on duty at the time? The only people we saw that are potentially liable to get pregnant are Arianna (if her bf/husband arrived fast enough), Peggy, Seneca, Jabberwokky, and maybe a few unnamed guards (if they were of the right gender/orientation and got the right casual partners). Conception events are possible but not that likely IMO, and again something that can be easily dealt with by giving a morning.after pill to everyone that needs and wants it.
I am under the strong impression the present of the main story is set a few years earlier than OTL (our timeline) when Obama was still President or in an alternate timeline when Trump never won in 2016 or 2020. We saw Obama being POTUS not that long ago in story time (the morning after the restaurant super-battle). The notion of Max accepting to serve under President Pussy-Grabber seems far too implausible, no matter her dedication to her country and her military career. No Trump Presidency all but surely means Roe still stands in this timeline, unless another Republican got elected that was just as willing and able to pack the Supreme Court with far-right fans of forced birth.
Yups, late 2011 or early 2012 by this comic
You do know that Roe was overturned after Trumper was deposed, right?
Yes, but the premises for that were set during the Trump Administration, when he packed the judiciary with far-right radicals, much more so than any other GOP President. Do not let him win in 2016 or afterwards, or have him replaced with some as extremist as him, and Roe shall stand by default. The most the Republicans can do if a Democratic is President (say Clinton or Biden for simplicity) in this regard is to slow and stall their judicial nominations, as they did under late Obama.
Now, if current time in the comic is 2011-2012, the future political course of the world is an interesting topic. Obama in all likelihood shall be re-elected by default just like OTL, and I do not expect the socio-economic and culture-war grievances that let Trump and his far-right exuivalents ride into power across the world shall gain as much relevance.
This is a new era of wonders and opportunities brought by the advent of supers and the contact with aliens. Upcoming technological advancements bring lots of new economic opportunities. The migrant crisis from Africa won’t be a thing, as all the migrants shall head for Gaitlyn. This does not seem the right time for the fear and resentment themes of the far right to become dominant. Sure, they can ride the backlash of anti-alien xenophobia and anti-super paranoia to stay relevant, but circumstances do not seem favorable for such themes to become dominant. We got hints they aren’t going to, so far. Not to mention that the xenophobes getting too much power would be in all evidence radically contrary to Deus’ master plan, so he shall deploy his considerable influence to prevent it.
“fear and resentment themes of the far right”
Humans are such complicated puzzles.
Judge determines unsolicited finger in anus is crude, but not criminal, the classic Fark headline making a comeback.
also, is Maxima’s portrait up top new? The specific facial expression I mean
The images rotate every page load / refresh so not sure which image you refer to.
I am seeing a sneer with a Spock eyebrow raise.
Jfc, that eye lick would traumatize me. I’d be begging to go to a hospital for disinfectant.
I love that Sydney’s ADHD mine might well have helped her overcome the Succubus lure. Once Sydney was trying to stop Parfait she was probably going into crazy analysis on all the possible ways and outcomes.
Fortunately I don’t think anything got beyond heavy make out, clothes removal and some collarbone kisses (alright, there is one at the very top of the boob). Its difficult to tell if that was Parfait trying to hold herself back or both Sydney and Parfait holding back. Certainly not pleasant for unwanted intimate activity, but I suspect that together with the causes and situation, Sydney will logic out out and recover from the situation having gone this far and no further.
Sydney’s analytical mind, despite being upset at the situation, has likely deduced rapidly that Parfait was out of control and doesn’t seem to be out for her blood, or the orbs would likely be out and it’s not like she’s had a problem with punching people in the heat of the moment for far less.
Is it just me or is that a lot of bust line for someone “flat”, if she’s an a cup there should be a lot less flesh in those hands. also, why the lipstick? I thought those were her natural lips
Syd might be a bit closer to a B cup but she has also been exercising quite a bit more over the last few months of comic time. Her breasts might not have grown but her pecs may have. As for lipstick, some women wear lipstick to enhance their own natural color but in this case I expect it was artistic license to demonstrate that numerous kisses had occurred.
I thought it was because she’s keeping a tight grip on her…self, making them look a little fuller than normal.
Also consider that breasts can swell up to 25% of their normal size during arousal… Sydney may not want to be getting aroused, but she *has* been exposed to a succubus lust aura, so her body might be reacting even against her will.
ok, there’s a TED talk on this- Arousal is involuntary (yes that means you too hard male teenagers). and should never be considered consent. nor should its absence be taken as condemnation or withdrawal of consent. (long foreplay sessions can be thrilling but the guy may go hard and soft during it.) we use our tongues. normally to form words, but direct action may be needed in some cases.
Well clearly Sidney is not consenting no matter what involuntary things are happening, she said “no” in a way that leaves no doubt, so sorry if I implied otherwise somehow. Fully understood that arousal doesn’t imply consent, it can even happen involuntarily during *rape* ffs, nobody in their right mind believes physical manifestations are somehow always a choice. (I would choose to never have a migraine again if I could, but that’s another involuntary thing.)
There’s also the fact that she’s doing the “lift and mash” trying to cover up which also makes them look larger.
Sydney miiight have to hand in her A-team card :p
Naaa. Peggy is bi. Dabbler might (and will) have a “few” encouraging words to say about it, and Max will be going off on her about the security risks blah blah blah…
Dabs might scold Parfait about her control issue, but only to placated Max.
I think she meant that Syd’s cup size may have gone up to B.
If you squeeze together any pair, you get more cleavage. And depending on the time of the month too, they do swell a bit. The bigger they are, the more the swelling! (trust me, I know!) Sydney is both covering and protecting hers is all. Size usually goes up with age, child birth, and surgeries…
My wife was a 36C at 20y/o when we got married, went to a 40DD after my first son, back down to a 38CC after the second, and now she’s back up to a 42D at 58y/o. Aging is never kind…
Just saying, if my twins could have looked like that with literally any kind of push-up when I was in the A-team of cup sizes, I’d have had much fewer self-image issues.
Maybe, but she is holding tight and together, might just be that.
I think Dabbler would scold her in general, since Parfait did fail by succubus standards for losing control like that, but I wouldn’t be surprised if her scolding came more as an understanding sort of lecture than angry scolding.
Someone fucked up in not taking adequate precautions for the fact that Parfait might lose control. That someone may very well be Parfait herself. Or it might be whoever is responsible for her education/training.
we need to get her gesticulating first. or just browse Dave’s patreon.
Pretty sure Batman threw some elbows.
I’m sure Batman would be reprising the Adam West “Batusi” dance.
You know I’m starting to suspect that parfait may not have been responsible for her actions. Succubus literally have an active whole in their head that could allow them to be influenced that way. And considering how Parfait reacted with panic about it, me thinks enemy action is involved.
pretty sure it was because she was unprepared and clearly her collar effect was just not something she was ready for.
so yes she failed spectacularly and lost control.
critical success on willpower check for Syn
note that the licked eye does indeed seem to be red.
With Sydney’s eating habits an eyeball-lick could be a warcrime.
Bonus points to Parfait for not collapsing in a ball of agony. Tho I can now imagine Sydney trying to get her a Sagat eyepatch now.
Holy…
That’s actually true. Sydney could legit blind someone doing that. And it’d probably technically count as a chemical weapons attack.
Traditional wrestling in Switzerland is called Schwingen in German or lutte à la culotte in French, which translates as “battle in shorts”. Wrestlers were wear special shorts made of jute (Schwinghosen). Among the officially forbidden moves is sticking a finger in the opponent’s butt.
Lighthook, Sydney. Don’t forget you have superpowers.
Remember Skeeve trying to block an attack with his arm when magic would have been more effective?
(For those who don’t get the reference: “Another Fine Myth”, in the scene where Aahz is teaching Skeeve how to use magic.)
Parfait would have liked that for sure.
I love that series. The Phule series is good too.
Eh, thought it was better in the early books than the later, when he’s more of a corporate CEO than a wizard.
Buck Godot, Zap Gun for Hire, now THAT was writing!
Level Up! Resisted out of control succubus horniness! Nice touch on the pink eye second last panel. Parfait is Incredibly lucky no extremely spicy food was consumed recently.
Sydney getting her moves from Brad Marchand was not on my bingo card
I wonder if the same thing happened with Max and Dabbler and started their fight.
Oooh! I see Parfait’s eye is getting red! Syds could turn licking/spitting into a dangerous weapon! (Likely deadly for those allergic to peppers)
Hopefully a certain spacewoof is immune to oleoresins on some very intimate parts…
Parfait got the Ironmouse treatment… Lucky succubi are resistant to a whole bunch of infections because tongue bacteria and eyeballs do not mix well.
Am I a perv if I want to see an uncensored depiction of what went down between the first kiss and the eye lick?
Yes?
Don’t care. *anxiously keeps an eye on Patreon updates.
A bit of imagination should be enough to fill in the details.
That and software like Blender too.
Saying, “don’t let Jackie Chan near a short Chinese bench” implies that there’s ANY inanimate object that it’s safe to let Jackie Chan get his hands on in a fight.
try just ‘blast, there’s random objects HERE, too! You KNOW we can’t fight him around THOSE’.
“We’ve caught him in a room full of nothing but stuffed animals and small rubber bands! Surely he can’t use those as weapons?”
“I mean, you’d think, but…”
Check with Usopp.
Considering Sydney’s diet, is her saliva pretty much pepper spray at this point?
After this,Max should assign Sydney to a “battalion of detachments” where she’ll have to “fetch and carry”?!?
Dave, I don’t know if you ever seen The Big Brawl )Also known as Battle Creek Brawl), but there is an excellent short bench fight scene in there as well. One of Jackie’s first Hollywood movies, and the first thing I ever saw him in. Amazing stuff!
https://youtu.be/ScrZxOyTRqE?si=1Lx6Kve7kDkWqUqG
Okay, on previous pages I speculated that Dabbler would be the one who stops everything, that Sydney would initially get yelled at by Max, but Dabbler would defend Sydney as this being Parfait’s fault, not Sydneys. After all Parfait is the one who is supposed to be able to control herself and even Parfait admitted she is the one who messed up before she lost control.
I think now it’s more likely that when they tell the story, the “eyeball lick” will be what stopped the lust aura from going crazy, and Dabbler will A: Think that’s really funny and totally a Sydney thing to do, and B: Congratulate her on her quick thinking. Of course there are going to be a lot of messes and meetings about “The Incident” and I’m fairly sure Sydney is going to loose her summoning privileges while on base regardless. But Dabbler is prolly going to be going to bat to defend Sydney on this. Again, from the perspective of the Succubus, all Sydney did was want to have a fun night with her half sister. That’s great. Sydney just wanted to hang with her friend. Parfait lost control, which is a problem since she’s supposed to be learning to control herself, but she is *learning* so mistakes are bound to happen. Should they have been more prepared? Yes, but, it is okay because the only thing that happened was a bunch of sex. What’s the big deal?
Max is likely going to be furious, but she can never stay mad at Sydney because while chaos always seems to follow Sydney around, Sydney isn’t maliciously doing these things. She was just trying to have a movie night with her friend, who happens to be Dabbler’s half-sister. Okay yeah, things went wrong, but then she quickly did what she could to stop it. She’s trying. Really hard, actually. And I think that’s the most endearing thing that makes it hard to stay mad. Sydney is trying her best. She wants to do well, and do the job, and she wants to fit in as well as she can can reasonably fit in given the circumstances. She isn’t going out of her way to try and aggravate Max or Arianna the way Dabbler is. Sydney is trying to not be a problem and she wants to do her best.
And I don’t even think Parfait being on-base is even a problem at all because otherwise Sydney wouldn’t have gotten help with the summoning. Sydney may not be thinking of things like security clearances, but Gwen is the Assistant to the Head of ArcLight. Gwen knows damn well who is and isn’t allowed to be there. Besides, I doubt the entire building is a highly secured area. Sydney has a residential room there, and presumably can invite guests to her room. They may need some lower grade of approval or a visitor badge or something and won’t be allowed into other areas of the building, but they can be a guest.
The pink text bubbles (and pink background color theme in general) already ceased before Sydney’s actions, so I think Dabbler already stopped the lust aura.
The facility isn’t hardened against Aura attacks in spite of them having already fought an enemy with an aura attack.
Anything outside that room is on Archon, not Sydney or Parfait.
Well, this neatly settles the issue about the nature of the incident. It was the supernatural equivalent of a libido-boosting, inhibitions-lowering drug accidentally released in the environment. Syd was able and willing to resist it after a while. In all evidence Syd remains straight and Parfait a friend to her. Kudos to her for once more devising an effective, on-the-fly solution to a crisis. It really does not seem in her nature to resent Parfait for what she knows was a genuine accident that affected her friend as much as anyone else, nor to be traumatized or shaken by the event. I suppose any other subject in the building shall return to their senses once Parfait does so, although they may well keep on doing what like to exhaustion or being interrupted by a third party. Nobody else in the building that was affected and we know of did anything that did not want to or would regret much (admittedly, insufficient data about the guards).
Syd may well be reprimanded by Max and Parfait by Dabbler for their lack of judgement or self-control, although too much retribution seems uncalled for. They may well have their summoning/visiting privileges restricted until Parf is able to demonstrate adeguate control of her powers. Archon bears a portion of responsibility for this fiasco by having failed to set up adequate HQ-wide defenses against aura effects.
the one thing I want to know, with Sydney holding her own orbs like that, she wouldn’t have been holding the shield ball. Did her ADHD save her from the lust aura?
Actually considering Sydney’s capsaicin consumption habits that lick could have MUCH more effect than ‘Ewww, what?”
it may have been covered by the relative immunity of succubae (that is a word!?!?) *uses google… THAT is a plural form?!?!?*
ok, the English language has much to answer for.
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/succubae
mostly because words like succubusses would be a little awkward
there are three plural forms given. that is one of them. succubi look more favorably on threesomes.
Farva, SUPER TROOPERS 2
Sooo…Are we to take it that Sydney’s ADHD grants her a natural resistance to the Horny Aura? I would have figured that given how everyone else in the base pretty much lost all control, she wouldn’t be able to break out of it. Actually, this also reminds me of how she was able to resist the Violence Aura from Vehemence waaaaay back. Either she’s just naturally good at resisting charm/enchantment magic or there’s some passive orb effect at work here.
RULES OF THE INTERNET:
Rule 34: If it exists, there is porn of it. No exceptions.
Rule 35: If no porn is found of it, it will be made.
Rule 36: No matter what it is, it is somebody’s fetish. No exceptions.
You know, I always wondered about something.
Rule 35 makes Rule 34 incorrect, or Rule 34 makes Rule 35 meaningless.
Because ‘if it exists, there is porn of it, no exceptions’ would mean that porn WOULD be found of it, since there are ‘no exceptions. So either Rule 35 is meaningless since it would never happen, or Rule 34 is incorrect because there are exceptions.
Porn exists solely in the mind and there are as many ways to interpret it as there are viewers to look upon it. To some a painting of a nude woman may be the height of eroticism, to others it may be a slightly worn recliner in the open position, or watching someone cook fried rice. As with artists, it is the job of the pornographer to try to relay their vision of whatever kinky, depraved bullshit they are into to the veiwer in order to illicit an emotional response.
DaVinci believed it was his task to reveal the forms hidden inside of the marble he carved and while he is widely recognised as a master of his craft, it takes a true genius to produce Thots from two secondhand hats.