Grrl Power #1190 – Looooove Arc!
Boy if you guys were clutching your pearls at the previous page…
Parfait wasn’t kidding about her lust aura, was she?
Oh, and no kink shaming Gwen there. We all have our things.
To clarify about the stinger – UV Vision would be pretty cool if you could turn it off. If you couldn’t… everything would probably look really dirty all the time. Things that people don’t realize need cleaning up would be incredibly obvious to you, and none of our cleaning products are designed to not leave behind streaks in the UV spectrum. You wouldn’t be able to see through most eyeglasses since a lot of them are UV tinted. Probably most car windows either. But if you could get past that, it would probably be pretty cool. For one thing, the UV portion of the spectrum is about six times as large as the visible portion. I assume that means you would be able to see about 11 septillion more colors, unless the higher energy you get, the more space you need to distinguish hues. I think actually the opposite is true, but I wouldn’t put money on that. Something else you’d have to get used to is that people have about 80x as many freckles as they think when viewed in UV. Most people are like 40% freckle in areas of the skin that get exposed to sunlight. Google it!
A few notes: The packaging on Anvil’s reinforced boyfriend substitute reads “Mr. Titanium / For very select women / you know who you are. In making the text look chrome on the box, it became hard to read at smaller sizes. Also, for those interested, Anvil’s book’s title reads “Shirtless Alien Men Want to Hear About Your Day.” Presumably the only English phrases they’ve learned are “I hear you.” and “That sounds really tough.” Hah hah! I kid, I kid.
Random trivia; I was watching reruns of Newhart while I worked on this page. It’s weird, but I can almost always remember what I was watching or listening to when I look at a page. Except a lot of the earlier ones. Partially because my memory is crap, but also I was watching a lot of CSI-type crime procedurals back then and they really all blur together at this point.
The July vote incentive is finally up! There was a disagreement about digitigrade and plantigrade leg configurations. What better way to resolve it than a race?
And in the Patreon variant, what better way to resolve it than a nude race? You know, to eliminate uh… wind drag I guess?
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I wonder if depicting Peggy specifically from that side (which covers her missing leg) was intentional or not.
well, maybe she has a short ‘attachment’ that is useful for situations like this.
I… don’t think they make those. People in the group are wealthy enough to have these made custom, but how often is that going to be used without weirding out the partner(s)?
> People in the group are wealthy enough to have these made custom
Are you saying she can afford to foot the bill?
Booooooooooo! *Thumbs down*
Looks like I got off on the wrong foot with you. Toe bad.
I feel I have to put my foot down and say you shouldn’t apologize for puns.
I am floored at the puns.
as far as having something like that made… I would lay money that a significant % of non-solo toys never see use.
*makes mental note- buy something weird and kinky for my kid to find after I’m gone.*
Indeed. Doing so would be admitting defeet.
I’m sure she can cut the cost in some way.
we’re giving the technology they have in the new age of electronics, I wouldn’t put it past them to have some kind of a cyborg attachment. you know where AI intelligence will be used next. with all the bills and whistles of biofeedback, prehensile capabilities and interactive control. well.. or sudden lack of control for surprise engagements.
Go ahead tell me I’m wrong. Ever watch the movie Surrogates with Bruce Willis? people have already thought of it, sort of, consider the anime movies Ghost in the Shell.
consider with the possibility of cybernetic implants, you also have the possibility of the nympho.exe virus STD. gets even better with autonomous bio and nano self modification.
But why though? I would imagine the most comfortable thing would be to just go barefoot. The same as people do when sleeping.
I think her leg is cut below the… cut, anyway. As in, the edge of the panel.
If i remember the pin-up of Peggy properly, it was her right leg, and that is hidden.
Dave seems to be into showing off his characters tattoos today. Peggy’s left side has more skin, thus ink. I would love to see more of JW’s tiger someday.
Great point. Thank you.
Well.. HR is going to be busy also…
Max not in the office currently I take it?
Might be we simply haven’t seen it yet – might be how she and Hiro FINALLY hook up?
Also, is anyone else supremely entertained that Math is completely unaffected by the Lust Aura?
“That’s my secret: I’m always
angryhorny!”Ah, yes. when the Man of steel becomes the man of titanium
Well…. it’s Math… With *his* libido he will have had to build up a tremendous mental resistance to become what he is to begin with. And I bet you he’ll have been practising against Dabbler to maintain his fighting focus at some point.
To him Parfait’s leaking …enticement… is but a drop in the ocean, a mere flesh wound..
Apparently, his exposure therapy has been paying off. He didn’t go cross-eyed or get a bloody nose immediately.
Math is perpetually lusty, everyone’s just getting on his level lol
>Also, is anyone else supremely entertained that Math is completely unaffected by the Lust Aura?
Blue on black, tears on a river, push on a shove.
Joker on jack, match on a fire, cold on ice, whisper on a scream.
As others were speculuming last page: it’s possible Maxi, Dabbles and Mr Z are either still in D.C. (or wherever that meetup was) or on their way back
Which would explain why Sydney went to Gwen for help
That was me.
At least someone was paying attention.
Math probably is, but too proud to admit it?
Seriously Consider the Chain of Command issues with an Instructor getting involved in a magically induced threesome with a cadet.
Parfait and / or Sydney are going to get in some *major* trouble on this one, aren’t they. Kinda worried about the fallout, but then we do know Sydney hits corporal so I’m sure it’ll be somewhat handwaved away. The fridge logic is strong here.
There is a difference between doing something you know is stupid compared to doing something that is only stupid in hindsight. Plus it only made them horns as both Kenya and Arianna prove they still had a choice to resist or go for other metherd of dealing with the situation. They chose not to.
Not just stupid, criminal – Dabbler told Parfait (right after she hypno-boobed Sydney during their first meeting) that “using powers to alter the state of someone’s mind is a crime in America”. This is non-consensual mind control, whether or not any given individual is able to divert or resist it completely, happens to enjoy the result, or even would have given consent if asked.
And not only is this mind control a violation of personal rights for everyone in the area, the building it’s occurring in is a government agency headquarters containing top-secret intel, the victims are high-ranking government officials, and the perpetrator is bonded to a demon who is on Archon’s watchlist for attempting to invade and conquer the US.
This should get Parfait perma-banned from the site, and Sydney (as her host) fined and on administrative leave while an official security investigation is conducted, to assess any damage and determine whether any enemy action was attempted during the distraction.
Can Parfait be considered to be “using” powers, when this is happening against her own will?
An irrelevant distinction at this point, if she can’t control it now then she should have stopped herself earlier when she still could. Doesn’t make her any less culpable – at best she was extremely reckless. She knows the has these powers, is thoroughly aware that she needs to maintain tight control over them, and put herself in a situation where she was losing control – then leaned into it instead of running for safety trying to get help until it was too late.
She did try running for safety. Said running for safety consisted of getting help from someone she assumed would be able to help, but actually couldn’t.
She then fell victim to her own whammy.
is she considered an adult?
what do the billionaires who own SCOTUS think?
Why should anyone get into trouble, aside from to validate Cora’s reported assertion that America’s “justice system is predicated far more on revenge than reform“? Dave’s social commentary aside, I get the impression that the grrlpower universe is a positive, hopeful one, in which people are more likely to forgive, and allow other people to learn from their mistakes, than attempt to punish them forever.
> I get the impression that the grrlpower universe is a positive, hopeful one
The fact that supers are being treated as good things, rather than hounded and persecuted like every other minority, does tend to imply that grrlpower is happening in the good universe.
Who is coco pineapple
I’m glad I’m not the only one asking.
I’m guessing Dabbler?
That’s what I was wondering! Wondering if it’s Jiggawatt.
Probably Suzy News, there has never been any indicator that there might be anything between Ari and Jiggs, but plenty of rumour about Ari and Suzy (might even be Variah, they hook up after V saved A’s ‘peach’ during the invasion)
I have heard none of these rumors, but Jiggawatt has gone blonde before.
Someone later on stated that Coco might mean colonel and pineapple might be code for “gold and prickly”.
For all of you speculating that CocoPineapple is a woman:
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/comic/grrl-power-101-what-else-would-you-do-with-two-invisible-arms/
Arianna is not a lesbian.
In that page, she is being explicitly attracted to Dabbler thanks to Dabbler’s aura.
In the current situation, she’s not in sight of the aura’s source, so would she be specifically thinking of an individual she’s not naturally attracted to?
Honestly, I went the girl route as I feel there’s just a lot of that in the comic, so it wouldn’t surprise me. I consider it standard web comic route…go girl with girl as much as possible.
If they stuck with her being only into men, I’d guess Achilles, who’s also blonde and a corporal
Arianna doesn’t seem to be making a booty call, but rather noting there is a lust-based emergency. She clearly does not wish to engage, unlike the others on the page. If she trusted Dabbler more, Arianna would be directly contacting her.
Bollocks! Those emogis are a booty call (she didn’t need to add that many drips)
If it was a warning, she could have stated that, the ’emergency’ was her hot soaking wet peach
Nice
Fun fact,a very small but slowly growing percentage of women have (slight) tetrachomacy, meaning they have a fourth type of cones that largely overlaps with blue but is senstive to light slightly further into the UV part of the spectrum.
They see blue more vibrant and can separate more tints of blue and see a whitish haze from UV light.
Because this is a largely neutral trait with marginal positive utility (UV light is damaging and knowing when to avoid it helps survival) it is very (VERY) slowly spreading through the human population.
Barring a very weird (and basically inexplicable) changes to the Y chromosome this will remain something only women can develop as it requires the combination of two recessive genes that activate an otherwise disabled gene in humans (some distant mammals and even more distantly related insects, do have this same gene in its active form and can see much farther into the UV spectrum.)
This has nothing to do of course with today’s comic.
Which took a direction that I did not foresee yesterday :)
I think you’re mixing two things. To my knowledge, we found a single person with a technical tetrachromacy having two different short wavelength opsins (cone cell proteins) – that is, in the blues. The gene for this one is not on the X chromosome, it’s on the 7th if memory serves, which is much more stable, or at least the region on which that gene is is much more stable. Tritans of any kind are rare.
The X chromosome bears the opsins for medium (green) and long (red) wavelengths, and many many things on that chromosome can go wrong. Duplicate, cross over weirdly, dislocate, mutate… that’s even how we got both green and red vision in the first place! We’ve seen many, and counting more, pseudo-tetrachromats with the green-sensitive or red-sensitive cone having one version (from one X chromosome of their pair) that’s mutated and the other (from the other chromosome) that’s not, but they’re considered pseudo-tetrachromats only because the differences are smaller than for truly tetrachromatic species. Too much overlap, so they’re just better at telling some hues apart but it doesn’t open to a whole new world of colour, mantis shrimp style.
As for changes to the Y chromosome… you’d be surprised. There’s only one small part of the Y chromosome (SRY gene) that determines initial man-ness or woman-ness and it’s not only unstable, it’s fucked up. It can move over to another chromosome, causing XY women and XX men. It can have minor mutations that cause the associated protein it codes for (TDF) to fail, giving XX men. The protein then can be effectively detected or not, being a possible cause for intersex variations (and intersex people are about as common as gingers, so that’s not, you know, just a footnote, that’s an ubiquitous human phenomenon). Things can be wonky or unexpected at any of maybe a couple thousand steps. Your androgen receptors might be fried, your AMH emitters or receptors may fail, some things that don’t even look related might be, it’s a meeeeesss. And that’s only considering the typical, two-chromosomes-in-the-23rd-pair situation. You can find XXY. You can find XXX. You can find XXXY. You can find “chimeras,” with different genetic identities in different cells. And you can find people with the opsin genes helpfully relocated to a Y chromosome, just because.
Also, trans people take a look at chromosomes, and laugh.
Humans are awesome and complicated :) so is genetics, and so is colour vision
The Y is more like a nubby V at this point
That’s the fun about Biology… ;)
The *system* works, 99% of the time. It’s that 1% where Mother Gaia experiments. A Lot.
Regularly bad for the individual, if it survives. Good for us as a species. Very Good for life in general.
Gives us that flexibility that allows us to survive most of what She throws at us, with some added peppering from the Outside.
When it comes to colour vision… or vision in general…
Given how important sight is for us, there’s a *LOT* of variation, with options, and Easter Eggs. And not just in the cones, but also in the firmware and software dealing with the input.
It’s a glorious mess that ensures most of us have “normal” vision, but which also means quite a decent fraction falls outside of that norm. Ranging from something as mundane as colour blindness, to literally tasting specific colours as Something ( quite often unpleasant..), or, indeed, seeing into the near-ultraviolet and see how flowers *really* are supposed to look to their target species.
IIRC, the hammerhead shark has the ability to see magnetic fluctuations with its t-shaped snout. it’s supposed to help it try and find prey hiding underneath the sand.
I recently also saw a project where hardware scanned the Wi-Fi signals that are around us and show it to us in a visual presentation
99%? That’s an overestimation. :D Probably closer to 90% of embryos are even good enough to survive and miscarry without anyone even noticing. Of the rest there’s *way* more “experimentation” than you think. Just the percentage of trans people is higher than 1%, never mind all the *other* variability in sexuality, identity, hormone production/receptors/esterases… Sure, most people are XX or XY. The point is that *you don’t even know what your karyotype is unless it’s specifically checked*, and that generally only happens when there’s a *reason* to check.
Being able to see into the UV spectrum is a common side effect of cataract surgery; The retina is certainly capable of detecting UV if it reaches it, but the lens blocks UV. The cheaper artificial lenses don’t.
The downsides are,
1) You really do NOT want to get a sunburn on your retina! Trust me on this.
2) You might SEE the UV, but it doesn’t focus very well, so really all you see is a deep purple haze over everything on sunny days, or when there are UV sources around like sterilizing lights.
But, yes, I have a UV flashlight for rock hounding purposes, and I can find my way around in the dark using it, on account of actually being able to see the UV, not just the florescence.
Most UV flashlights have a little spillover into the deep purple, not least to give some indication that they’re on.
If Arianna is texting Max, Max would be flying there. Even if she’s out in public in her Harper disguise it would be quicker for her to find somewhere secluded, take off straight up at just under subsonic to avoid any witnesses, (which should be easy since it’s close to midnight) and be at Archon HQ from anywhere in Texas in under 5 minutes.
Pretty sure Arianna is making a booty text, not notifying Max that something is amiss at headquarters.
Nah, wouldn’t be Maxi
I bet Math didn’t even notice the sudden jump in his “lust meter”. That trick would have totally worked even sans lust aura.
Seems like it’s only effecting women, though that could just be the inherent male/female imbalance in the cast.
Ren seems to be affected as well. He’s with Seneca and Peggy.
I mean, would YOU need a lust aura to want in on that?
To get in on it no, To get past the “Why do my co-workers suddenly both want to jump my bones” question yes.
There is the possibility that there was already at least a potential Peggy, Ren, Seneca triad.
Something just occurred to me about Ren’s power. In addition to enhancing his physical abilities in general, it affects his perceptions, effectively “stretching” time for him. If it actually scales with adrenaline…guess which hormone level increases with arousal and sex? (Well, several do, but adrenaline is high on the list.)
I actually thought that was some other woman, his pecs look kinda like a squished boob. And I can’t keep track of all the sporadic side characters in this series, I legit forgot Ren even existed.
That’s what the “Who’s Who” and the character tags are for
Noting that the human retina is UV sensitive, though the water in the lens blocks UV. Replacing the lens with plastic (e.g., cataract surgery) allows access.
Consider my pearls clutched.
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That’s not what I meant!
I think Max will be rather annoyed at her coworkers if she walks into this.
Annoyed that no one texted her?
what no b52 reference!?!?!
after all this is a little old place where we can ‘get together’.
dabbler is going to be mad she missed this. Max is going to be furious. Arianna is going to be writing some new policies. and Sydney is going to be the recipient of a lot of cold shower suggestions. well, Math has been subdued again.
now would be a perfect time for Hench wench to try something. maybe she sneaks in and gets caught up in the spirit of the moment….
With that many supers in residence the whole shack really might shimmy!
I wonder if her aura is only impacting women for some reason. Math obviously gets a tent in his pants but otherwise seemed to retain his wits until things got real.
If nothing happening to Sydney I’m guessing she’s probably managed to get her orbs and shield herself from the aura while maybe holding Parfait at bay with the light hook.
I’m trying to work out who CoCoPineapple might be but my first thought is simply that she tags her bang buds with drink names.
Beyond Sydney figuring out a way to dampen Parfait I figure their best hope might be Harem using her other selves to report an unusual level of horniness. Difficult to tell if she’d care but I figure she might recognise the aura from when one of her selves is exposed to Dabbler’s aura.
Math has a big ol’ boner but is deliberately ignoring his impulses. Ren, on the other hand, is not. Safe to say it’s affecting men, too.
Dampen Parfait? She’s probably Louisiana swamp wet right now…
> I wonder if her aura is only impacting women for some reason. Math obviously gets a tent in his pants but otherwise seemed to retain his wits until things got real.
Ren, the only other guy we’re seeing, seems to be impacted as well. I think DaveB just likes drawing the women afftected by it more.
Math is always horny, so it’s business as usual for him.
Maybe because she is ground zero? Eye of the hurricane kinda thing?
It seems to be effecting Ren without any difficulty, I think Math’s perverted nature probably just made it hard to notice wanting to bang Jabberwocky, because that is kind of his natural state of being.
{Re: The text section}
You remember what was on TV when you art?
Bullwinkle J Moose could remember everything he ate, like a banana with a secret formula written on it.
Now the question is : Who goes by the handle CocoPineapple ?
I see three main possibilities:
1. Her husband (if she has one).
2. Stalwart
3. Boyfriend who has security clearance
It has to be someone who is familiar with “work” enough that they know where they’re headed. Whoever is receiving her text is presently unaffected by the aura (probably), but instead is willing due to prior relationship with her. They have to be able to past the security guards (and other protections) upon arrival. It’s probably a male, since Arianna has previously shown heavy resistance to same-sex relations from Dabbler’s aura and she’s responding VERY enthusiastically to Parfait’s.
Who is CoCoPineapple?
Does that name describe a hairstyle, or *GASP* what they put on pizza?
I’m guessing her SO who sent her chocolate covered pineapples early on in the relationship.
Those are called ‘Pineapple Lumps’, and they taste great :)
I’ve only ever seen them in edible arrangements which… is even naughtier now as I think about it.
Look them up, “Pascall Pineapple Lumps” (or more likely be able to get the Cadbury’s knock-off)
so you are down in New Zealand with the guy that does Hello Future Me, that candy is not even common in England (land of the jellybaby) let alone here in the US…
Oh right, that stupid Telco ad (unless ‘Hello Future Me’ is something else)
Thought Cadbury’s was everywhere, didn’t know Pineapple Lumps was exclusive to this market
hello future me is a YouTube channel devoted to writing I think he’s up to three books now.
https://www.youtube.com/c/HelloFutureMe
oh yes,
*dials phone*
yeah, we are going to need extra pearls for the comment section today.
charge it to the legal office.
Huh. I sense a lot of paperwork in HR’s future.
Custodial might be busy for a bit too.
So who is CoCoPineapple that Arianna is asking to get to work for some scissoring?
Suzy News? I mean she was giving her Klingon Kisses etc before.
My first thought was C. C. St. Croix, if only because of the “CC” and that Macroeconomics seems like something Arianna would be interested in, but who knows?
Agreement! Also, interesting her naming choices.
Not Suzy News- Arianna said ‘come to work’, so it’s someone who works at ARCHON.
Not necessarily, it could be that Arianna is telling them to come to her work(place) implying that they’ve driven there at least once. At least, that’s what I gathered from the text message.
‘scissoring’? there was something that make us think Arianna is lesbian/bi?
Is there anything to indicate she isn’t? The only thing we’ve seen get her this worked up before was considering the merchandising potential of The Amaziballs.
When exposed to Dabbler’s aura Arianna was chanting “not a lesbian” to herself.
What scissors? Those are sweat drops indicating Niagara has moved to Texas :P
Wait. Is this the first time we see Harem’s ahegao tattoo? That’s the most dramatic reveal possible! Also, nice details on Gwen’s screen. Especially love that she’s reading the webcomic and has a quick folder/link for all her gothic lolita wardrobe change needs.
And of course, the sweet sweet pun with “gutteral” – am I reading it right? Guttural, but everyone’s got their minds in the gutter right now?
Harem’s tat has been in an earlier comic. I remember someone mentioning it in the comments.
First time a lot of us are noticing it, myself included
I’m wondering how HR, and Maxima, reacted when they found out about it; Deshantis must be a nightmare with her extra bodies to stretch even Archon’s standards of grooming and decorum.
She wears long sleeves when in uniform.
I totally get the hormonally challenged incredible hot young supes getting it on without a second thought, but I’d have expected Arianna to know better than to have a booty call within the company. Good for her I guess. Do we know who CoCo is?
I think she recognizes there’s succubus stuff going down and is telling Max to come ASAP.
Not with the hot peach wetter than Niagara falls, and certainly not saying her ass is sweet
No idea who CoCo is, but it’s not about not knowing better. Poor Arianna is just another victim of the oversexed young succubus losing control and putting out the horny aura.
If you look at how inhumanly contorted her legs are, she’s fighting it as hard as possible.
(Yes, I can do a similar position with my legs, but, it’s uncomfortable and takes effort to maintain)
Arianna presumably knows both the law and the loopholes better.
So how is Sydney going to resist such a powerful aura if those others can’t? Unless she is bi-curious, which is what I always thought anyway.
On the subject of inconvenient super-vision, way back in the 80s I made up a villain for Champions 1st edition who had “N-Ray Vision” and a really strong line-of sight teleport. “N-Ray Vision” (their name, not mine) was pretty much comic-book X-Ray vision, except it got to pick one thing it couldn’t see through instead of being blocked by lead. His version of it also had the “always on” modifier, so he couldn’t deactivate it. The only substance he couldn’t see through was living tissue. So, the guy could teleport in or out of pretty much anyplace, even bringing things and people with him, but his visual world was a vague gray void filled mostly with naked people and hazy outlines of buildings and other inanimate objects from the sheer number of microorganisms growing on their surfaces. Creepy enough, and even worse in cities where many of them are walking around at different altitudes. His teammates pretty much had to lead him around most of the time, but he was a really versatile teleporter so it was worth the hassle.
I liked that goofball. Should bring him back for Sentinel Comics sometime.
Hooo boy, this will trigger some people.
Yes, the people that care about consent.
Exactly.
The people who can’t understand that or don’t care are throwing up serious red flags at this point.
This brings up an interesting theorem, lust is usually compared to unbridled passion… Passion is some what rooted in consent. Ergo, the Lust Aura that Parfait produces lowers inhibitions for people to explore these passions. So is it technically consensual (emphasis on sensual)when something like a Lust Aura is involved? Those desires were there to start with but they did not act upon them.
Except the aura does more than that. We already know it will make straight women, and presumably gay men, desire the succubi. No, it’s definitely not consensual.
DaveB kinda painted himself into a corner and what is most infuriating about this is he’s pretending he hasn’t.
“You can fight it”
You can also fight Vehemence’s aura yet if he does it without Max’s explicit permission he’s a dead man.
“It doesn’t make you do things you don’t want.”
Thanks to Dabbler’s humorous introduction, we know that isn’t true unless every woman around her is secretly bi and the men actually want to cheat on their wives. That little one-off joke is biting him in the butt.
“Look Anvil and Gwen aren’t jumping somebody, you chose who you sleep with!”
They’re alone. I also doubt Jabberwokky is that interested in Math. It’s MATH. Peggy’s looking awfully ok with sharing with a dude too, RL threesomes don’t really work when one is gay (I know it’s not RL, just sayin’).
“She can’t control it.”
Irrelevant, that doesn’t put the genie back in the bottle.
“It’s Sydney’s fault for summoning her”
Bruh.
“It’s hawt.”
Never said it wasn’t. This isn’t a pr0n comic though and without pr0n logic this situation is effed up. Just make Grrl Power “that” kind of comic Davey.
Peggy is explicitly bi.
And Jabberwokky has said in the past that she’s not opposed to sexy fun with Math. (The proposed threesome with Detla when Thoth showed up in the quarry being the one I remember off the top of my head)
You’re saying that Succubi don’t run on porn logic? Dabbler and Decollete have fucked with consent every time their speech bubbles go pink. They also have always been called out on it by others in the comic (I think?)
This is a superhero comic. They’ve got heroes with mind control powers on the team. Consent is going to get violated.
And on the supject of “porn logic”:
How much more of a “good” setup could there be for a plot of “horny bomb goes off in occupied office building”?
The people there are obviously not physically hurting their sex partners in unwanted ways (except maybe Parfait with Sydney. That finger in the mouth didn’t look comfortable)
Everyone there has the best medical coverage money can buy, and a superpowered healer.
Everyone seems like they have been able to choose their partner(s), so the risk of unwanted pregnancy is zero. Anyone not on birth control has easy access to morning after pills and abortions (this comic is set before Roe vs Wade fell) If any couples in the building are trying for kids, they will have gone for each other.
And if you don’t think Dabbler will have handed out magic broad-spectrum STD cures to everyone in Archon, I don’t know what to tell you.
This will have no long-term physical consequences based on information we already have.
So mental trauma from doing something while mind-controlled is the only possible problem I can see, and I’d like to think that everyone there is adult enough that random safe sex is less troubling than beating each other up (They did actual damage to each other under V’s aura).
Jabberwokky has previously expressed sexual interest in Math (most notably in #986 where he suggests a threesome with her and Detla and she notes she’s seriously considering it…when he strips immediately she pranks him instead but, well, the interest was definitely there). And Peggy is into both men and women, not gay, she states so in #117. So her being in for a threesome with two people she’s attracted to is not wildly surprising in the way you’re implying here.
Everyone is horny but there’s zero evidence anyone is having sex with a person they would not otherwise.
Ari is also alone, but she is texting for a sexing
Threesomes can work even when one is only interested in one of the others, it just takes work (kinda like any other relationship)
As I stated, it is a theory, nothing more. Just a little thought exercise. Things like this where magical forces are involved tend to be a gray/grey (can never remember which spelling is correct for the color) area to me.
Both spellings are correct, but ‘gray’ is more common in American English, while ‘grey’ is more common in British English.
Always felt one was the colour, the other a name
Arriana, Math and Anvil are showing that this gets you horny, not makes you fuck the nearest person.
And it’s already been established that this is all accidental.
Syndey needs a talking to about the dangers of summoning a young, untrained succubus without the right supplies on hand. And also needs to apologise to everyone effected.
But in terms of intent, this is a kid who doesn’t know any better blowing up a house by turning on the gas hob then playing with the light switches.
Though Sydney chould have been genre-savvy enough to see this coming, she also hasn’t interacted with a “tween/young adult” succubi yet. Only pre-collar children and fully-trained adults.
Vehemence just makes you angry and you can resist his aura. Time to knock his charges down to assault and move him in with the plain ol’ superstrength villains. /s
When did anyone other that Syd resist V’s aura?
It couldn’t penetrate Mr Bubble.
Vehemence’s aura doesn’t actually make people angry. According to one of the participants of the brawl, it made him feel like it would be “rude not to be fighting”. That seems much more troublesome to me, in that it’s affecting a person’s understanding of the rules, rather than just making them feel an emotion.
Given that Gwen went for porn, Kenya reached for Mr. Titanium, and Ariana is apparently making a booty call, I don’t think anyone is doing anything totally unwanted. I think this is more of a “encouragement to do something they already wanted to do” situation.
The previous page was already more than I dared to hope for regarding this comic becoming “that” kind of comic, but now I know true bliss. :-)
Seems like Arianna never learned how to masturbate. I wonder if that means she’s not interested most of the time or if she has a highly active sex life.
I wonder if many women actually share Gwen’s kink or if she’s an outlier, because so far I assumed it was more of a guy thing, while for women I assumed they tend to prefer the more emotional stuff like Twilight and 50 Shades and such. Which is also why Yaoi is generally more emotional than Yuri. But that being said, of course Gwen’s website might consist of guys like the Werewolves from Twilight instead of plain hairy brutes.
Also good for Math to finally get some.
Glad to see I’m not the only one interested in Arianna’s sex life.
The appeal of those books was not the “emotional” story my dude. It was drawn out tension. (This is what I’ve been told, I only ever skimmed them. ) Gwen is into something really specific, but most women have something like that even if it’s more generic like “domineering confident hot guy” or “himbo who takes care of all my needs”
I never said “emotional story” my dude. ;-)
Twilight and 50 Shades are both stories about horribly abusive men presented as romantic.
They aren’t actually romantic.
I thought he key was that the men ‘just get’ what the woman wants or keep rolling 20’s on their perceive partner’s secret desire skill.
No.
50 Shades is a BDSM fantasy. But is terrible as a story of actual BDSM.
As for Twilight: The heartthrob main character is 104 years old, and hangs around at a school to pick up a 17yo girl.
The main character is the 17yo adolescent who is into the 104 year old guy. Twilight targets a largely female audience who fantasises about older hot guys, not creepy older guys who want to have school girls.
Twilight is standard “abuse/stalking as romance” with all the problems of that genre.
It being written by a Mormon doesn’t help.
The creepy older guy still decided to hang around High Schools
I’ve seen Dominic Noble’s videos on 50 shades. he has a few choice words and gestures for the author.
Sorry Alex but you’re assuming facts not in evidence. It’s actually possible for women with well developed Pelvic muscles to do interesting things to themselves by crossing their legs and tensing various muscles…
It’s perhaps not as graphic as digital manipulation, but just as effective.
That is news to me indeed, which makes me wonder why Arianna has to call her man instead of “being just as effective” with crossed legs. Maybe Dave doesn’t know either? :-)
If you have a regular person you’re boinking, and you’re feeling super-horny, why wouldn’t you want to at least try to hook up with that person as your go-to option? If she’s deliberately trying to stifle the urges until her paramour gets there, then that would also suggest that the lust-aura isn’t precisely as mind-control-y as some of us have been worried about.
Okay so how many people out there want a patreon only exclusive NSFW comic expanding on all this month that’s about to be going on?
A comic like that would probably make me get patreon for another month. I already only subscribe when there’s a Sidney pinup, but I wouldn’t say no to a comic expanding on this.
At least Math finally got some.
Yeah, that makes this SO much worse and you saying we’re “clutching our pearls” pearls isn’t a good sign. Can’t wait for this to be hand waved away and how we’re supposed to feel sorry for PARFAIT not the people she’s violating. Just like last time with Dabbler and the hairdresser.
Look Dave, is this “that” kind of comic or not? If it is, this is sexy. If it is not, the implications are really f***ed up. They don’t run off the same logic. Make up your mind.
It is not that bad. It is obvious that they are not out of control. Arianna call her S.O., whoever he/he is (but is someone that work with/for Archon, she says ‘come to work’, not ‘come to archon HQ’) she don’t grab the first person that pass. Anvil use mr. titanium. They are not brainwashed, they are ‘just’ horny.
I think whether it’s a violation depends on whether the aura is making anyone get involved with anyone they wouldn’t normally, or whether it’s simply putting them in the mood for something they’d choose to do on their own, and the aura is just making them do it NOW.
It puts you in the mood for sex, your actual preference is irrelevant. Refer to the first time we meet Dabbler and, unless “Word of God” says she’s actually bi, when Dabbler put the whammy on Jabberwokky.
We’ll see if Dave makes Sydney, who we KNOW is straight, throw Parfait off. Based on the notes, he won’t.
Dabbler hit Jabberwocky with a precise, concentrated blast of weaponized horniness. Making her specific target horny, and specifically horny for her. For the purposes of mind control and compelling Jabberwocky to act against the other opponents in the fight.
This is Parfait having the equivalent of a teenaged girl unexpectedly menstruating all over her host’s nice new sofa. It’s a huge mess, but it was neither intentional nor unforgivable.
There’s no such thing as an accidental grape. Your intentions mean nothing. If you did it, you did it.
Everyone is being mind-controlled. You can debate how strong it is, but they’re still under the influence and cannot really consent; and, again, in Syd’s case, we know she’s straight, so if sex between her & Parfait occurs, it’s definitely not because she chose it.
Yes, everyone is being mind-controlled.
Including Parfait (who is accidentally whammying herself).
Every time a succubi’s text bubble goes pink, they are violating consent.
But I can’t think of anything that could be done to make “surprise horney-bomb goes off in occupied office building” any safer.
Everyone there is on the best medical care money can buy, plus their super-powered doc, plus Dabbler will have given everyone a magic broad-spectrum STD cure back before she was warned off zonking teammates, plus this is set before Roe vs Wade fell. They’re also all collegues and seem to be treating each other with as much care and delicacy as each of them need.
This is less dangerous than V’s aura, assuming it wears off before dehydration and exhaustion become dangerous factors.
People on the hero team with mind-control powers will violate consent. No-one seems to object when Prof X does it.
Oh, I object. I object HARD.
In fact Prof X and other telepaths are the ORIGIN of my hatred for this. Especially Emma Frost, holy shit I could write essays on Marvel’s hand-waving of the things Emma Fucking Frost does. She is a monster and it’s super weird how Marvel treats telepaths like they’re just any other mutation.
Humanities treatment of mutants is is objectively wrong…
…for MOST mutants. Mind control powers are definitely one of the exceptions, naw, track people with that power and lock them up forever if they abuse it.
Emma Frost is a villian. She’s supposed to do horrible things.
The interesting case to debate is Prof X, since he’s supposed to be a hero.
Emma Frost WAS a villain and I barely remember the stuff she did back then. I’m talking about after she became a “hero”
So, is mind controlling people worse than killing them, and if so, why?
Obviously not. Mind-control, however, IS coercive force. If you’re using it in a situation where you can justify using physical force, great, it’s the best non-lethal option out there. If, however, you’re using it in situations where using physical force to achieve the same ends would be morally dubious at best, and reprehensible at worse, then it’s a no-go zone.
“Make enemy put down gun without shooting anyone”? Totally fine.
“Make someone go and get me a beer”? Not cool.
“Make someone engage in make-outs”? Straight to jail.
“Make a crowd of annoying protesters simultaneously orgasm”? Express route to jail, throw away the key. Yeah, that’s a thing Frost did.
“Switch your teen mind with a middle age guy who attempts to date rape your girlfriend”? Suffer absolutely no consequences apparently. This is a thing Jean Grey did to Spider Man.
Marvel’s treatment of psychics is wild.
Not just Marvel, DC is guilty of it as well: Heroes can do no wrong (even when they are doing something seriously wrong), and Villains can never do anything good (unless it’s a cover for something nasty, and the cover doesn’t last long)
I think you’ve provided a reasonable way to approach the question. Mind control is a tool, and to what end it is put should carry some weight, rather than simply declaring it verboten in all instances, or perfectly fine.
I do think it is in many ways comparable to lethal force, in that both effectively remove a person from their body, whether temporarily or permanently. They may lose the ability to perceive the world, and their ability to influence it. It’s denying them participation in the universe.
It’s also similar to rape, in that it’s using their body, against their will. Again, denying them control, over something that’s fundamentally theirs. It is a violation of the most fundamental aspect of living.
Hypothetically, if someone needs to be incapacitated and mind control provides a means of doing so without risking death or maiming, is that a reprehensible violation?
I can’t help but wonder a few things. Do you feel that a person with any sort of biochemical imbalances or neurochemical conditions are incapable of giving consent? Is anyone who has sex with them automatically a grapist, even if they didn’t know about that neurochemical issue?
If someone knowingly ingests an intoxicating substance, fully aware that it will loosen their inhibitions and make them more amenable to things they might not normally do, do they become completely incapable of giving consent?
If someone is particularly susceptible to a particular appearance, or a charming personality, or even just clothing they harbor a fetishistic attraction to, is the possessor of that appearance/personality/clothing overcoming their capacity to give meaningful consent?
While we’re at it, what punishment would you like to inflict upon Parfait the grapist?
Don’t know about word of god, but page 237 Jabberwocky admits to being into women at “most parties”(after half-heartedly denying), and also expresses attraction to Math (at least his body) in 546. So yes, the implication would appear to be that she is bi, just not very open about it.
Forgot to address the Sydney claim, in my effort to make sure I was citing the right pages for Jabber(I remembered them, but not their numbers– 546 in particular took a while to find).
“We’ll see if Dave makes Sydney, who we KNOW is straight, throw Parfait off.”
One: She could (/should?– even if she is actually surprisingly okay with this turn of events, establishing a “consent first” dialogue would be good education for Parfait if she intends to remain a guest on earth –) do that even if she weren’t straight. Just because you find someone attractive, doesn’t mean that they have free reign to do what they want(unless you are… “plicitly” the kind of person to allow that, and even then, better safe than traumatised). Boundaries matter.
Two: Has Dave ever *said*, WoG, that Sydney is straight?
Yes, he has expressed that sexual stuff, esp directed at her(shower scenes, the time Harem joked she had to undress in front of her (only females were present) coworkers as payback for a prank) fluster her, and that all of the women she works with make her body concious.
And yes, she has pushed the idea that she is, “Not a lesbian” (page 101 and 196 most notably), but so do some people who aren’t straight. Speaking of 101, the glamor that Dabbler is using in that page is supposedly based on Sydney’s interest(109 “Already did you”, “invasion of privacy”). That’s a decidedly “female” (in the “explicit” sense of the word) figure if it’s based on an entirely straight woman’s attraction. That said, Sydney’s lack of general reaction to her, compared to “the boys” would indicate that perhaps her interests lay wildly more in one direction than the other.
I’m not denying the this might be theft of consent(hopefully, it’ll be cleared up *exactly how much* was Partfait, and how much was “a bunch of oversexed heroes in a dorm enjoying a moment”), but I think waiting until WoG is a safe bet.
> Two: Has Dave ever *said*, WoG, that Sydney is straight?
Yes:
“And just to be clear, Sydney’s not into girls at all”
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/comic/gp0100/
Thanks for the link! Guess that clears that one up.
I think there’s some space between “not into girls at all” and “absolutely repulsed by the idea”.
I doubt Sydney would have even considered polyamory until her adventures in space. She’s been subjected to a lot of alternative ideas about sexuality since joining the team, and may have reconsidered her own as a result.
Not into girls means not into girls.
Yes, she’s also repulsed by the idea, but even if she gets over that, she will still not see any appeal to it.
Unless it actually changes, which I guess might be possible under the repeated influence of succubus magic.
I’m not saying you’re wrong, but stuff like this is exactly how “first contact” culture clash works. I mean culture clash is a thing in real life between different branches of real world human beings, imagine how bad it would be with actual aliens that have a totally different culture and worldview.
[See the “Blue and Orange Morality” trope at TVTropes for lots of examples.]
I would imagine in galactic terms where Succubi are a known quantity people would probably recognize what was going on, but humans haven’t had that kind of exposure. Not to say that Parfait isn’t responsible, but she’s explicitly still learning to control her powers (and herself).
Relax keyboard warrior, let Dave tell his story and let’s see where it goes.
Not an SJW, or even a leftist, you absolute brainlet.
Better that than being offended for thing that not even exist.
You absolute lovable person.
kinda funny that the warriors are clutching their pearls the hardest :p
If the pearls were coal, they would be diamonds by now :P
I’m going to suggest that it’s whatever kind of comic Dave wants it to be, and runs off his own personal logic, and that doesn’t necessarily fall into the two arbitrary categories you’ve designated as the only ones possible.
Dave. You’re gross. Absolutely gross.
Sounds like you wanted join in?
Naw. I just thought about the last line text a bit too much. I had the same reaction when watching Guardians of the Galaxy, “It’d be like a Jackson Pollock painting”.
You only truly know where the edge really is when people start to fall over it. Otherwise you are just exploring interesting new territories.
Or you could look at the fence around it and read the big signs saying “warning: cliff ahead”. Some people actually do want to go cliff diving, and are welcome to do so; doesn’t mean you take down the fence and warnings for everyone and drive everyone on the tour bus right up to that edge. Especially if they have explicitly said they don’t want to be near the cliff.
Plenty of voices here for and against the moral turn this arc has taken, and all the reasons why have been thoroughly covered. It’s not completely unexpected and we’re all free to leave. And contrary to Internet ‘wisdom’ on the ability to do so unannounced, feedback from someone leaving a tribe isn’t automatically pearl clutching or rage quitting, it’s an indicator someone sufficiently identified with the tribe that they cared enough to say something.
Personally, this arc has now crossed the line where I am no longer comfortable recommending the comic to others, and am evaluating whether to keep reading myself even after this arc concludes. For the moment I’m stepping out and will check back in a couple weeks to see what the fallout (if any) is like – if it’s not taken seriously in-comic and there are no consequences, I’m done.
Honestly curious:
How is this worse than any other time a succubi’s text bubble goes pink?
Dabbler and Decollete have control over their powers and have deployed them a) deliberately, b) at a small scale, c) knowing exactly* who was being affected, d) generally* only to those who were aware of what was happening or already opted into a sensual situation, then e) stopped if the affected parties objected. (Yes there are some asterixis there for Dabbler’s already problematic disrespect for local social mores, X’s presence, etc). And e) previous instances didn’t include on-screen portrayals of sexual conduct. Previously the unambiguously NSFW content was restricted to the Patreon.
Parfait on the other hand knowingly put herself in a situation where she’s lost control and is blindly assaulting everyone in range at full power with magical roofie aura. And the result is being displayed explicitly as NSFW fan service, and demonstrating that everyone affected is fine with being roofied.
Maybe consequences will come shortly (which is why I’m even considering reading further), and this will treated as a mass violation of personal rights (and a huge security risk) instead of a tired and toxic sexual trope “because succubus”. Either way, there’s no narrative reason this exact story arc couldn’t have been explored without the explicit content.
d) Is a load of bollocks. Decollette in the club, Dabbler in the board room, Dabbler and Jabberwokky off the top of my head.
f) I can’t help but think that this is the real reason everyone’s getting upset here. Far worse violations of consent have happened before with succubi pink speech bubbles.
Parfait didn’t knowingly put herself in this situation. She was summoned for a hang-out night. And this page is hardly NSFW. Everyone on-camera has clothing covering everything Americans care about covering at the beach.
Fair enough. I hope we can hang out here again some day.
Tell me, when has action like this not suffered due consequences?
I wonder if things are ten times worse for Sydney at Ground Zero of this effect.
Well, if Dabbler is nearby, she will for sure notice what’s going on.
There might be some awkward situations if the lust aura suddenly gets cut off…
Yeah Dabbler won’t go hungry today.
> I wonder if things are ten times worse for Sydney at Ground Zero of this effect.
Possibly not, she didn’t seem to be worse off when standing next to Vehemence’s violence aura. Succubus lust and his violence have been implied to work similar.
This remins me of the love god episode in Legends of Tomorrow. They got everyone horny on the ship too.
Most of the ultraviolet range is vacuum ultraviolet, so called because the Earth’s atmosphere is opaque to it; ultraviolet vision probably won’t include those wavelengths, and if it does, things will just be dark in them. Near ultraviolet apparently goes from 400 nanometers down to 120 nanometers, which is a range of 280 nm. Visible light goes from 700 to 400 nm, which is a range of 300 nm. So I’m guessing that you would only see roughly twice as many colors.
One of Heinlein’s science fiction novels talks about seeing octaves: for example, 700 nm (deep red) would be the same “note” as 350 nm (low near UV). I wonder if that would work?
The colours you see are more about how many types of cone cells you have. Colours are generated by the brain based on the relative responses of different cone cells to the light, so how many colours you perceive is based on how many cone types you have, not by the spread of wavelengths you’re able to perceive. If you could see into the ultraviolet but otherwise have the normal set of cones, you’d just have a wider range of wavelengths that you see as “violet”. Cats and dogs, for instance, can actually perceive a slightly wider range of wavelengths to us, but less colours because they have fewer types of cone cells (our fruit-eating monkey ancestors evolved a third type in order to be able to recognise red fruit).
Be glad Max wasn’t there…..!
Prediction -Dabbler showing up and shutting Parfait down in 3.2.next comic.
Congrats Syd you summoned Parfait who is still in training and surprise, babe’s got aura control issues still.
Reminds me of a Star Trek episode meme “blame it on the Plot Device”
“Warning! This is a plot complication!”
“Captain, it’s just what we need — a colossal negative space wedgie of great power coming right at us at warp speed.”
Worse, its spinning on its long axis!
About Sydney,who’ll predict that she’ll be given a dishonorable discharge?!?!?
Already negated by the flashback from the first pages of the comic, where she’s been promoted to corporal.
Looking forward to Max’s reaction. I’m predicting fury beyond all known levels and much ‘motivational’ PT for the troops that had so much energy.
I actually made one of my CO’s that angry once. The only thing that saved my ass was that I was doing exactly what he told me to do, in the manner he told me to do it, after warning him it was an exceptionally bad idea.
Soooo… malicious compliance? Or simply a case of “I’ve done everything I can reasonably do to prevent this oncoming disaster, I bear no responsibility from here on out”?
Well go on, you can’t just allude to an interesting story of leadership incompetence and predictable results and not share it with us.
1: You NEED to elaborate and tell us what happened.
2: That sounds more like the CO made HIMSELF that angry. You were just following orders. If he even THOUGHT about blaming you, then that… well, as W.E.B. Griffin put it, in the very first book in his “Corps” series:
“A slimey son-of-a-bitch is what I call a Marine Corps officer who attempts to deflect responsibility for his failings by scapegoating his fellow officers. I don’t know of a term vile enough to describe a Marine Corps officer who attempts to deflect responsibility for his failings by scapegoating an enlisted man.”
Parfait just set off a lust bomb in the office complex. The results are playing out as we speak. I have a feeling that Mr. Titanium is about to make a killing. If man of steel woman of Kleenex taught us anything it’s that on the other end bringing a partner to climax would bring involuntary spasms with the strength of an industrial press. An “indestructible” marital aid could save lives. Because it’s that or having a drawer full of cheap ones like the old alarm clock joke.
UV powers would make you a cleaning freak and probable the best motivated researcher into cleaning products.
Plus pretty easy to know if your gf is a cheating w.
We don’t know if this has anything to do with the lust aura. Could just be a normal Saturday night.
And how many are checking to see if that website exists?
I haven’t checked the site, but, I was really hoping that Dave registered it and put up a simple page that says something like “made you look!”
That’s a search category on Xhamster.com. And no you don’t need to know how I found that out.
Given how in control Dabbler and most other experienced succubi are of their auras I take it that the leadership of Archon never really grasped the full potential of an unleashed lust aura. I’m assuming Dabbler is somewhere nearby and has been alerted to whats going on thanks to her porno sense, so she would probably be rushing to the source to stop this since she likely knows how to identify a lust aura and what kind of fallout she could expect from the more “prudish” humans that she works with if she lets this go on.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the General and others in leadership wanted to enact some kind of registration for all succubi present so they can be closely monitored for these kind of outbursts, or have their movements restricted. It’s just the kind of authoritarian knee jerk reaction one might expect from an American military branch of the government despite the issues it could cause.
I wouldn’t be surprised if some general want to weaponize the lust aura. Make love not war.
They’ve TRIED to weaponize lust auras. There was research done into a “gay bomb” in the 20th century. The idea was that if you dropped the bomb on the enemy, they’d all turn gay – and because the Pentagon’s view of gays was “homosexuals are all hypersexual nympho caricatures,” it was assumed the trenches would immediately become massive orgies incapable of operating their own weapons.
Needless to say, the project did not produce any effective military applications.
Spending tax money on stupid military projects is a old tradition.
The last page was very rapey and the blog text on this one describes the understandable concerns as “pearl clutching”
Yup.
Just lost a reader who’s been here for 13 years
Damn! Thought you left already…
See you next page?
And how exactly is it “rapey”?
1. Do you really think this is in any way unwanted for Math?
2. Do you really think Math couldn’t have stopped her if he wanted to?
3. Not verbally requesting/stating consent is not the same thing as not consenting.
Anyways, there’s probably one person in the universe physically capable of raping Math, except he’s such a horndog that raping him is an impossibility.
Re-read the comment, they said last page. I never saw Sidney give consent, nor indicate that she would give consent (I personally don’t think it’s possible to give consent while under mind effects, be it drugs, hypnosis, or magic)
honestly, i get triggered when people insist that characters in comics and fictions need to ask for conset. can we leave that bs in Real Life and not drag it in every work of fiction, thanks very much. Honestly, i find it shocking how widespead this inability to discern between reality and fiction is nowadays…
“can we leave that bs in Real Life “. Found the Red Flag.
“*FUCKING PRONOUNS!*”
(I’m laughing *at* the thumb-headed guy who had that meltdown, just to be clear)
That’s… not a red flag.
It’s something much worse. I just don’t know what. A flashing red light? Siren? All of the above?
I tend to go for “tankie parade” metaphors for “bigger than red flag” stuff.
honestly, i don’t care for red flags either…. never seen so many mimosas (both in real life and online) as i encounted in the last 10-15 years… every bit of ficiton has to be scrubbed for any kind of triggers until only bland inoffensive sludge remains. and if that mindset triggers you… well, get therapy.
This is all sorts of rapey. Or at least “hand everyone a extasy”-y.
It’s also accidental.
How this gets resolved once the lust aura is turned off will say a lot.
But also, how many people has syd killed so far without anyone complaining?
Who, exactly, is being raped on this page?
You think Math is even slightly objecting?
> Who, exactly, is being raped on this page?
Everyone pictured.
Definition of rape is sex without consent. No-one here can give consent due to the lust aura.
It’s also not a situation worth assigning blame over, because its caused by the equivilent of a toddler falling over.
How? They all seem to be okay with their preferred reaction to suddenly getting the horny
Gwen had the where-withal to note her open door, and shut (and presumably lock) it before typing in that website
Anvil reached for her Titanium buddy
Ari crossed her legs while sexting her SO (identity to be revealed… in two years :P )
Math knew what was about to happen… and went along with it
It’s a “lust” aura, not a “makes you say you consent against your will” aura. No one here appears to be shagging someone they would flat-out reject, and if they were being genuinely mind-controlled rather than “made horny af” there would not be locking doors and personal toys and texting involved when they all know some of the canonically hottest people in the world are close by.
Can you consent to sex while on ecstasy?
No you can’t, but we’re discussing “magic aura that specifically targets lust,” not MDMA.
Mind control doesn’t have to mean the victim has to act zombie-like or on raw instinct. If you change someone’s emotions or motivations to the point they do what they otherwise wouldn’t, that’s still mind control, in the sense that it’s changing your will to make you “consent” (except not actually, because you’re being influenced). If I magically influence your mind to make you want to make me emperor of the world, that’s obviously mind control (of the comic book villain variety). Why isn’t magically influencing your mind to make you want to have sex?
If I drop an aphrodisiac into your drink without your knowledge, then have sex with you if you wouldn’t sober, that’s date rape. (But it wouldn’t be if you yourself decided to take an aphrodisiac to get yourself “in the mood”.)
We saw Vehemence’ violence aura make Hiro and Stalwart attack each other, which is obviously mind control because they’d never do that, but it wasn’t mindless rage – they were making funny quips about it, and were in control of their superpowers.
You’re both saying that they are, and aren’t, acting on raw instinct. Lust is lust, it’s a human (and succubus) emotion, it’s been boosted, literally no one in the situation is taking advantage of anyone. That’s not the same thing as “influencing the mind to make people want something,” they’re horny and that’s that.
It really, really depends on what you call an “aphrodisiac” as well, because there is no such thing known to modern science. If it makes me want to throw myself at you while I wouldn’t sober, sure thing that’s rape. If it just makes me hornier, I still have the control to choose if I deal with it, and if so, if I do it myself or with someone else, and in the latter case, with whom. Control that Arianna has demonstrated, for one. You’re speaking like it’s the former in the case where you’re giving it to me, and the latter in the case I’m taking it on my own (and frankly I could disagree with that, because if I did that with alcohol a responsible partner would say “if you need alcohol to consider it, this is unhealthy and I would be committing rape, let’s not”).
Vehemence’s violence aura was (1) something he wanted to do (2) controlled (3) fine-tuned from the effect we see all the way up to actual non-consensual incitement.
> That’s not the same thing as “influencing the mind to make people want something,” they’re horny and that’s that.
Being horny means wanting sexual things. If I influence your mind to make you horny, that’s literally the same thing.
> If it just makes me hornier, I still have the control to choose if I deal with it
It’s not the right framing to speak of control when the motivations are influenced. You don’t “control” your motivations, your actions are determined by your motivations. If you resist a motivation, it’s because there’s some other motivation that’s stronger. The hornier you are, the more likely you’ll agree to have sex.
You’re talking like sex is something people only ever do when overwhelmed by raw desire. No, it’s something people can also decide to do, because they want to. But if they only want it because of mental influence, they’re victims of mind control.
> and frankly I could disagree with that, because if I did that with alcohol a responsible partner would say “if you need alcohol to consider it
If you’re deliberately taking an aphrodisiac or disinhibitor, you’re already considering it. You can consent to altering your own mind.
Being horny and wanting sexual things are different. One is a feeling (internal) and the other is a desire (external). You can want sexual things without being horny (e.g. the many people who think they “should” stop being virgins), and conversely (e.g. the many many teens whose hormones they don’t control at inopportune times).
My actions are determined by my choices. Money is a strong motivation, but I can choose whether I want to do something or not, even if I’m offered money for it.
I’m not talking like sex is something people only ever do when overwhelmed by raw desire, I’m saying they do it by choice, and there’s a difference between “having sex” and “having sex with someone you normally would never choose for it.” You’re talking like they’re the same thing, because “being horny means you want it” (by the way, that sounds incredibly rape-y).
Aphrodisiacs continue to not exist, and where were you when everyone was taught that drugged people can’t consent? If you’re preparing for it and also enjoy the buzz, that’s one thing, if you need to consume something so that you’re less able to say “no” that’s fucking grim and you need to get out of there. If you’re considering altering your own mind because normally you’d say no, that means there’s an external pressure to overcome your consent.
Math? No, he’d stick it in a knothole if he could.
Everybody else, including Jabberwokky? Uhhh…
As I note above, Jabberwokky was pretty interested the last time Math propositioned her and is in an open relationship dating Dabbler…I do not think her being up for casual sex with him is surprising in the least.
Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit, is it? May I suggest a remedial kindergarten class?
Don’t think I should take a suggestion about kindergarten when yours seems to have failed you, or did you just skip the “don’t insult random people” day?
So, how did you make it this long?
I don’t understand what people find so triggering about this page, relative to… many previous pages. This didn’t just come out of the blue. This is par for the course. If you’ve been reading the comic up to this point, and this page is surprising to you, then I can only conclude that you weren’t really paying attention.
They already mentioned last page they were rage-quitting, guess they didn’t get enough attention so they are trying again (and again on Monday)