Grrl Power #112 – Hot Beefcake Injection
I was hoping to get some more work done on the vote picture this weekend but dang, this page was a lot of work. Worth it though – I love the panel with all the Harems, and I guess the beefcake lineup, which is more or less the point of the page. It occurred to me that there are a lot of webcomics out there that spend less time on their entire comic that I did on just the mini comic at the bottom of this page. I don’t know why I’m such a glutton for punishment, but I suppose I could produce a 5x a week comic if it was a flat colored strip like that. I thought about making it the vote incentive just to freshen it up, but eh, why make you jump through the hoops?
Thanks for all the input on Peggy’s sidearm on the previous comic. There were lots of suggestions, but if you still want to contribute, please add it to the previous page’s comments, I’ll still see it.
There was a ton of rambling Tarantino-esque dialog I wanted to include on this page that began to introduce these guys, but I had to cut it all to make everything fit. I’ll save it for later I guess, it was more important this page began with “So are there any guys?” and ending on Sydney drooling over the railing.
About the chokers for the guys. I mean… cool tactical throat mics. I’m not a fan chokers on guys in the first place, but if a dude has a skinny neck like Math then I can overlook it I guess, but on Hiro and the other guy with the huge neck it looked really dumb, partially because their traps meet their neck almost higher up than the bottom of their jaws, so it would have had to be really skinny and/or wavy. I’ll have to figure something else out for them, maybe one that only wraps part of the way around from the back or something.
So yeah there are guys on the team – I was holding off on introducing most of them till this page so readers got the same first look as Sydney. We’ll be seeing them intermingling from here on out, but don’t worry, the girls are still the main characters. Speaking of which I need to formally introduce Jiggawatt so I can finally include her in the Who’s Who.
Peg’s on the List, for that?
We’ve already seen that very little is needed for a person, place or thing to go on The List.
Wonder if the view is gonna get her off of the list
It might get Harem off the list. She’s the one who took the guy’s shirts off.
As far as I’m aware, Harem never got on the list (although I could be wrong.)
From what I can tell, Harem never ticked Sydney off.
Startle her, yes, but even Sydney was sorry after she punched Harem in the face.
Seventh panel, new desktop…………As soon as I can stop drooling.
If only there was a bigger/high-res version of it. *sighs*
I’ll see about making a wallpaper sized version some time this week.
Hooray! Cookies for you :3
Woo! Awesome, I can’t wait. Though I guess I have to… xD
That pool game’s never getting finised is it? Lol.
Probably not. Ongoing thing for the life of the comic itself, is my guess.
I like the pool game Jenny Everywhere and Val have at Koala Bares. NSFW, depending on what you are used to. This comic contains extensive non-sexual nudity of cartoon characters. Well Koala Bares is a nudist resort, so what can you expect? Link is here.
That is an amazing bank shot Jenny pulls off.
Oh phooey! I was hoping the spoiler tag would mask the link.
I like all the ‘macho’ posters in panel 8 (Rocky, Predator, and I’m not sure what the one in the middle is >_>; )
but is the MLP picture in there an easter egg (or bronies)? Just curious
Actually, the one on the left is Raging Bull. And I got no clue on the middle one either.
The posters were a nice touch. But com on DaveB,
Why did you put up one of that cheater. I mean, come on, dropping a tree on some one didn’t count as a clean kill!
The two line ups are kind of cool. Also, that is some fast group texting going on.
To be fair, if someone goes after you with a personal cloaking device and long-range plasma weapons, you are entitled to strategic use of natural resources…
Just because your government doesn’t let your “Elite” militarily units use what you already have planetary. It’s not a fairness problem, it’s a problem of greed on the part of your ruling class. It is OK to use what we use.
The one in the middle is Fight Club. I was just trying to think of a bunch of macho movies to stick up there.
I’m surprised Die Hard didn’t make it.
I notice that Math has quite a few scars. I’m guessing even the world’s greatest marital artist still catches a few lucky shots now a then.
Well, over-confidence and simply not knowing when he should back off seem to be a couple of Math’s Psychological Limitations.
It’s quite possible they weren’t lucky at all; that his training necessitated him taking some wounds.
Or he got them during training or at least at a time he was still in training.
One becomes better by learning from his/her mistakes. It looks like Math is so good because he has taken advantage of lots of opportunities to learn from his mistakes. Math, it hurts less when you can learn from others’ mistakes instead.
Experience and wisdom are what you get seconds after you needed them.
I really couldn’t agree with that any more. I have a nasty habit of not being able to think until after it’s too late, at which time the pressure’s off and my brain starts functioning normaly and the proper course of action is revealed almost immediately! I would be less frustrated if instead, just as often, little people popped out of random places and punched/ kicked/ head butted me in the face/stomach/shin/groin. I know that that’s not really a trade I can make, but still the concept of that happenning seems to bring me endless amusment and I imagine that would give me good reason to laugh and smile between random DwarfNinja attacks.
The School of Hard Knocks, also known as experience, has a lousy lesson plan. The test comes first, then you learn the lesson.
They look like sword cuts.
Or he just pissed of Maxima.
I doubt even he could dodge someone that can catch a bullet
I gotta wonder though, why don’t any of the others have scars? Surely they’ve been training too, and gone on missions, or been in fights before they joined?
Well 1 of them is invincible, so no scars for him. 1 is extremely stretchy, so probably no scars either.
Not sure about the rest
Actually, because of the dialog I had planned on including but then cut, neither Achilles nor Mr. Amorphous are in the lineup.
Most people would agree that Math is a great martial artist. It’s his attempts to get in a position to show off his skills in marital arts that usually gets him into trouble.
(Yes, I know it’s a typo, and that the resultant joke isn’t original.)
Lets not forget that Math is disracted by women to a comical degree! If I remember right he’s lost a few matches as a result and in some cases was only able to win thanks to a knack for fighting blind. You have to imagine he’s had to go up against at least a few hot female fighters who didn’t like the idea of losing and may have pulled edged weapons on him.
Got to agree with Math on that one.
And now I know what Syd felt when Dabbler walked in.
I was wondering whether Peggy was straight or lesbian.
Okay- why is Math the only one wearing a choker since we’re now talking about male supers?
Is the leftmost dude the one with Schoolgirl Harem during her first appearance?
Dave said in the commentary that the chokers look bad on the guys if they don’t have thin necks (like Math does).
Yeah, he’s actually been in the background on a few pages.
Hahahahaha! This page made my day! Love the beefcake line-up, I love Harem’s expression in her line-up, and Sydney drool waterfall really made me laugh. Thanks Dave!
And we still don’t know who the white-haired super is!
According to the commentary and older comics, it’s Jiggawatt.
Can you please show me where? I wanna see for myself as well check if more info can be gleaned. :-)
I think she was eating with one of the Harems at the time of the Pain Reaction, but I may be wrong. She may have been in a couple of other backgrounds, but I can’t remember. She’s not had a speaking part yet, or been named in-comic (as opposed to in text and/or comments), hence why she’s yet to get her own spot on the cast page or the who’s who.
Yes, I know about her first appearance- it’s her name and abilities I’d like to know.
It wasn’t stated explicitly by Dave, more speculated on in the comments, but here you are. https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/389/comment-page-1#comments
I just hope the link works, I suck at html.
Derp, forgot to say where… About 1/3rd down the page.
The “#” on the top level comment can be used as a direct link. For some reason sub-comments don’t get the same treatment.
In the previous comic was not the white haired lady walking in the opposite direction of Sydney and Peggy. Does she have a twin or can she teleport, because as Peggy and Sydney walk into the viewing area there she is playing pool.
Admittedly I could use work on my blocking. It’s the same girl, she turned as she passed them and started playing while Sydney paused to note Peggy’s transgressions.
That wasn’t her 1st appearance. Her 1st appearance was when Max wedgied Military Harem, causing Pink-Haired Harem to port and stub her foot, causing Goth Harem to jump up from her seat in pain, surprising her lunch companion- our white-haired super.
You need to do a big panel of harem like you did with the guys.
If you mean wallpaper-size panel 8, I’m with you there.
Without tops?! I’m with you there (so it Math), but it might blow our PG rating (at least in North America).
BTW Dave, nice foreshadowing in panel 3 here; https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/589
Well that statement generally holds true for a lot of women I suspect but yeah I’ve known this page has been coming for a long time.
Of course that link also brings to mind the question of what happened to Harem’s (the Harems’ ?) freckles.
OK, how do you properly write possessive form for a person with five separate bodies? ;-P
And soon pretty please with cherry on top.
Not that I’m complaining or anything, but is there a reason all the guys have bodybuilder builds rather than fighter builds? (difference being that fighter builds are more toned and less pile of boulders)
Well, there’s Unnamed Blond Guy on the right…
Given their powers, it’s not surprising they might be built more for brute force than for standard fighting–Achilles isn’t going to be worried about being hit, so he’s going to sacrifice dodging ability to put as much force behind a punch as possible, for example.
Or we have the guy who can stretch his body out, so he can just bend around a hit rather than having to actually dodge it, so again he would probably focus more on power than agility.
There is actually. In my universe people with super powers are built like superheroes inherently, but only people that fall strictly in the category of “super.” It’s a bit like a mutant from Marvel in that it’s an inherent ability and not something gained through radioactive bites or anything, but the powers usually develop pre-adolescence. The big guy (his handle is “Stalwart”) is a super with strength/toughness, Hiro is your basic Superman type (not that powerful though.) Math is not a super so he’s got a leaner build, the slender guy has powers but he’s not actually a Super. And the black guy is a regular human, albeit a bit of a lifter. It’s hard to tell but I intentionally made him less cut than Stalwart and Hiro.
This made me want to ask something I’ve been wondering for a while. Back near the beginning of the series, Joel and Sydney had a chat about before superheroes were real vs. now:
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/82
That gave me the impression that the appearance of superheroes was a relatively new occurrence, and that Sydney, 21, still remembers a time that supers were fantasy. I wondered if you were going to reveal some event that caused this. Of course, Sydney who supposedly just “found” her orbs wasn’t born with her powers either.
Well from her perspective, they’ve only been around for a little less than a decade. They’ve existed for longer than that, but it’s still a recent phenomenon to her. Eventually I’ll get into their origin but it’ll be a while from now.
An event that causes supers to appear in large numbers.
Well going by anime that usually involves some scientists messing with something like
A powerful new energy source harvested from another dimension,
or trying to create a new god (which explodes)
Examples: (S-Cry-ed), (Needless), (Deadman Wonderland)
Although in all of those a section of land is destroyed/distorted and the supers mostly isolated *Deadman Wonderland* to the degree they have been kept secret from the public.
Others I’ve seen, chemical spills in drinking water, Earth passing through a cosmic storm, ancient uberbeing/aliens messing with human genetics which in some cases took many generations to manifest to the degree of being noticable to the public at large as smaller numbers through history whose powers manifested were secret about it. (Marvel and DC usually take this approach). Also genetic engineers who are crazy trying to create a new perfect race experimenting on people and releasing their super-virus, chemical, bacteria, ect…into the water supply, food supply, ect.. (that one is usually reserved for horror themed series).
I recall when Gwen was scanning Sydney and listed all the different types of abilities available. He reminds me of an elf anyway. An elf that looks like he can melt my face with his mind.
Now you just need a dwarf and some fantasy type weapons to have the best LARPing group ever.
Extending the Most Common Super Power trope to the guys as well, sir?
That is one of the concessions of my universe. Is concession the right word there? Anyway it’s a long way from being explained, but there’s a reason for it.
I wonder what his F.I.S.S. Number is?
When I first saw the term F.I.S.S. I had to look it up.
There are a few terms that would be approprate for this comic. Look it up if your intrested in the many meanings of F.I.S.S.
Best ski resort award?
Beefy!
Only Math is wearing a choker.
That is some battle scaring.
Also, hungry chibi Sydney stares into my soul.
Nice haiku.
Steal girls tops – sexual harassment
Steal guys tops – ‘harmless’ fun
Oh the double standards we live by.
Personally I find over muscled bodies a bit freaky, its not muscle build by working hard, its muscle build by specific exercises. Reminds me do much of those anatomy sculptures without skin.
They guys shown here are actually relatively realistic compared to some pictures, I’ve seen, like they do real work compared to just want to look good on the beach.
Look up ‘how to draw beef on deviant art’ (https://coelasquid.deviantart.com/art/Abdomination-How-to-draw-beef-132538271) and you can see that functional muscle is different to defined muscle.
Arg, Grammar failure. Also, I’m not getting at the artist in anyway with my comment.
I actually used photo reference for Hiro, at least his torso. Spending the last 2 years mostly drawing women has impacted my ability to draw male physiques somewhat. I’m sure there will eventually be monstrous hulk like physiques, but for the most part, the team members are within the realm of the realistic. (which is arguable if you include the body fat %/breast size ratio on some of the women)
On the subject of double standards…
Sometimes double standards are necessary, because there are two things. There really is a long history of men using force to take advantage of women against their will, and there is no such history of women doing the same thing to men.
Also, keep in mind that the men themselves aren’t really objecting here. If they do object, then fair enough, it’s going too far. But even then, it’s simply not the same thing as the literally millennia-long history of systematic abuse of women by men.
The history doesn’t matter. That’s literally history. Bringing it up and saying men should just ‘deal with it’ like you essentially are is blaming all men for the actions of those of the past and those who aren’t specifically them. Which, frankly, is sexist – blaming the entire gender for the actions of the worst of them.
In itself another double standard because if we tried turning that around to talk about how all women are like the worst of them, whoever was brave enough to show you how sexist your ‘point’ is in this manner would be swamped with pseudo-intellectual walls of text from offended male feminists trying to prove that you can only be sexist towards women and not the other way around.
Last that I am aware of in our society, and its men (and women,) still look upon women’s chests differently from men or have you forgotten so conveniently?
Muscles show strength but women’s muscles don’t bulge like men’s but they can still have the power.
Thank you DaveB for also giving the women here some fan service too. But I am drawn to this comic because it is female heavy myself as a male. Usually it is one female to four or more males in a supers comic. Even though women make up a little over half of the population.
Except the X-Men of the 90s cartoon.
Storm, Rogue, Jean, Jubilee vs Cyclops, Wolverine, Gambit, Beast
DaveB: A watch worked for Dick Tracy for comms, so perhaps some kind of wrist “band”?
Oh and out of curiousity, is Jiggawatt’s name spelled this way for a purpose? Because, well, Gigawatt.
“Jiggawatt” might be a back-to-the-future reference :)
It is. When she first appeared DaveB said aomething about a BTTF refrence and we figgured it out.
Reread the comments page if you want to see what was said.
Doc Brown pronounced the word that way because the on-set technological adviser told him that was the way it was pronounced. Christopher Lloyd did not know the word at all at the time. He actually did not get the correct pronunciation until he and Bill Nye were doing a segment for the animated series years later.
Bill: Actually, Doc, it is pronounced “Gigawatt.”
Doc Brown: Who do you think you are? Bill Nye, the Science Guy?!
And the name stuck. Nuts, I can’t find the clip with this correction in it,
So… the black-haired dude is named Hiro? Is he a swordfighter/ computer expert, or a time traveler? Because if he’s the last I’ll be displeased. Please tell me he used to deliver pizzas before being recruited :)
I’m ashamed I don’t get any of those references. :P
The time-travel is reference to Hiro Nakamura from the TV show “Heroes”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hiro_Nakamura
The swordfighter/computer expert/pizza-delivery man is Hiro Protagonist from Neal Stephenson’s awesome sci-fi novel Snow Crash: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_crash
I wish Stevenson had wrote more books with him in them. He was a realy intresting charictar in a truly cool/twisted world. I would love to see a motorcycle like the one in that book.
I want the supersonic guard dog,
Ah yes, Heroes. Believe it or not I’ve never watched the show. Well, I watched the first episode and immediately disliked nearly all the characters in it. I remember Hiro though. Part of the reason I didn’t like the show was because they had someone with super powers named Hiro like I do, which is a stupid reason to not like something, as if I’m the only person to ever think of the name “Super Hiro” for a… superhero.
I never realy got into the serries myself. Mainly because I work graveyard shift, but also because for some reason the whole show made me uneasy somehow. Don’t know the reason why, but it did.
I saw previews and little bits and pieces while flipping channels, and it just never interested me. Too new age drama for me. I guess I’m just old fashioned.
The protagonist of the book Snow Crash is a black dreadlocked swordsman/computer hacker, and he’s named Hiro Protagonist. Dunno about the other one though.
Looks like Harem’s teleportation is good enough to just take a piece of clothing with her.
Nice group shot of Harem by the way.
The proportions on the winking guy (is that Hiro?) seem a but off to me.
I hope we get to know the guys a little bit. I would like to know were Math got his scars. Must have been one fast oponent to get him.
Anyway: How does this work? I am a lazy guy, just minding me business, getting fat and when I get hit by radiation/get bitten by a radioactive animal/get struck by lightning/my x-gen kicks in I develop a power AS WELL as turning into a Chippendale?
Lucky fuckers.
Do you mean the short forearms?
There are some people out there with arms like that. I always think it’s a little wierd, there are so many variation of the human body that everything is wierd to someone.
If the forearms look short it’s probably due to foreshortening when they’re resting on their hip. The elbow doesn’t go straight out, it goes to the back somewhat. I probably need to work on showing that better in the upper arm. If anything the two guys on the left look like they have sort of small hips.
Morbo is shocked and disgusted at the objectification of men in this strip.
Morbo is so angry he can not even find the words to parody what feminists would say if they were all women and so he will leave that to your imagination.
The point is. It would have been funnier if Morbo was not tired and his list of stupid things feminists whine about.
omnomnom ^^
So Dave, you’ve finally achieved what you must have been trying to do for a while, get all 5 harems side by side on a page, bravo
Too bad DaveB didn’t have Maxima looking over the rail with the rest of the girls.
Max: Harem! What I told you about … never mind.
on a completely unrelated note, I found a song that reminded me of dabbler when i heard it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7RccTpKMCo
First cheesecake now beefcake..
At least DaveB is equal oppertunity in his fanservice.
if i were to work out a bit, i’d probably look like the blonde guy (if I had long hair)
…maybe i should start working out
The skinny blond or Math?
Actually, so would I.
..maybe working out more isn’t such a bad idea…. >>;
I can tell you from personal experience that taking a little off the gut and putting a little mass on the shoulders makes shirts look way, way better on you. Surprisingly so actually.
Any advice on putting mass on the shoulders? Mine are basically solid bone.
My shoulder routine was:
Dumbell Shrugs: (https://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/dumbbell-shrug) 60(lbs)x8, 80×8 100×8 (The amount of weight isn’t important, do what you can do, I’m just showing I upped the weight each time. The last rep of the last set should be really hard if not impossible to do. That goes for you too ladies.)
Then I’d alternate each week between:
Military Press: (https://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/seated-barbell-military-press)
1 warmup set at about 80% of my normal weight then 3 sets of 8, or I’d do progressive loading like with the dumbell shrugs – or:
Dumbell Press: (https://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/seated-dumbbell-press)
Same as above just using dumbells instead of a bar
Then I’d alternate between Side and Front Delt Raises till I had done 3 of each (https://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/alternating-deltoid-raise)
Then I’d go over to the smith machine, load it up with as much as I could get off the ground and do sets of shrugs till my traps were about to rip out of my neck. (https://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/smith-machine-shrug)
And that was shoulder day.
I’d mix it up sometime with some of these:
https://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/seated-bent-over-rear-delt-raise
https://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/detail/view/name/upright-barbell-row
Here’s the full list of shoulder stuff
https://www.bodybuilding.com/exercises/finder/lookup/filter/muscle/id/12/muscle/shoulders
If you don’t like chokers on the guys, what about putting it on a shirt collar? I don’t know if a collar could be incorporated into their design or not (you know, since we don’t get a real good look at their shirts), but I’d figure I’d throw that idea out there.
If you do not like the choker, than why not an ear peice that clips on the top or side of the ear(I do not mean an ear ring). With an ear peice they do not need there hands to activate they could use there shoulder. Plus this gives a chance to have a logo like the girls have.
How about as a suppository? So instead of like most people talking out of their ass, their actually talking into their ass to communicate? :P
Hmmm… wristbands? Armbands? Some sort of medalion?
No, I got nothing. Looks like Superman was unto something, slapping a big “S” on his shirt there.
Re: the neckbands in general. I gotta point out that Unnamed Blond Guy standing next to Math has a skinnier neck than Math does, yet no band, while Anvil has a bigger neck then both of them.
To be honest, I’ve never been a fan of the neckbands, mainly because you have a lot of supers whose code name begins with “H” and they look smallish to work as IDs.
They’re not ID’s as much as they are a place that Arianna can stealth in something akin to a logo. It’s all about marketability with her.
How about the guys wearing them as wrist bands if you don’t want to go the choker route? Just so they can be visible or if you want to communicate with them all the time then implant them so that they are with comm all the time. (Such an idea for implantation goes back at least as far as a tv series from the early 1970’s called “Search” by Leslie Stevens who helped to give us Outer Limits in the 1960’s–first season only.)
I remember that! Called ‘Probe’ in later seasons. The little scanner/camera/comm gadgetcould masquerade as a (big) ring jewel, tie clip, cuff link, jewel in a broach, etc. The implant reciever, though, I don’t think I’d like – never figured out how/if they could turn it off…..
If I had to guess, the colars are standard issue but you can opt out of them. Most of the women didn’t mind and perhaps math thought it looked cool or just didn’t care (or was convinced it looked cool by a large pair of breasts that may or may not have been attached to a woman), while the other guys thought it looked weird on them and the thin blond guy just outright disliked it perhaps due to it being uncomfortable or something.
That last bit would make sense, yet would be sad. The blond guy could totally pull off a choker @w@
Though I’m basing a lot of my opinions about him on that dream I had and the fact that if my fiance were like… 4 inches taller and would re-bleach his hair, and go back to doing his workout like he used to, he’d look a lot like the blond guy. He was built like that when he was in the military, and he had blond hair several times in his life (I’m trying to convince him to bleach it again for me), and he’s had long hair most of his life (though actually much longer than this guy’s hair). I actually linked him this page yesterday so I could go “See? If you were in a comic, you’d be that guy!” XD
If you’re trying to convince him to change his hair color for you, sweeten the deal by letting him pick your hair color. “What do you want? Bleach Blonde? Redhead? Cotton Candy Pink?”
He’s totally game for it, we just don’t have the bleaching supplies for it, and he’s feeling too lazy to do it by himself, so he wants me to help him, but I don’t have the money for the bleach kit either x.x
I’ve offered to be any hair color he wants, and he always just says he likes it the way it is. X3 I want to go back to being a redhead eventually, but it fades too fast.
aaawwwwww,,,and there i was hoping peg might be into girls,,,(( altough i knew it qwas most like ly not the case :) ))but even i have to admit its a nice picture,,, altough it would be better with more breast,,, ,like kenya’s built,, yum yum
Who says she isn’t?
She might be bi.
Or she might be like me and appreciate the male form without any sexual vibes. I mean you can appreciate an attractive male form without lust or sex attached to it right?
Dabbler already said she’d done her– how exactly? dunno…
Was that not referring to Sydney? After Sydney discovered that the clarisense orb has a passive power of truesight, she asked Dabbler to put up an illusion again to test whether the clari-Sydney could see through it (page). The results were slightly overshadowed by the image Dabbler pulled from the General, but the count-round was Peggy (Eeny), Maxima (Should probably skip), Sydney (Already done), Sandy (Meeny), Ariana (Miney), and the General (Mo, and therefore the ‘inspiration’).
Hmmm… So when Harem gets motivated her teleportation is that precise? I see substantial numbers of ways to use this in the field. Starting with being able to almost instantly disarm several dozen goons with guns…
Picture: Field mission: Crazy person with dynamite strapped to body holding hostages. Dead man switch, Maxima talking and getting annoyed.
VORP
Picture: Naked man and Maxima cracking knuckles. Large explosion several miles away in quarry.
Except that it looks like Harem has to get close enough to touch something before she can teleport it, but if she can see it, she can be touching it a few milliseconds later.
Quote “Grrl Power is a comic about a crazy nerdette that becomes a superheroine. Humor, action, cheesecake, beefcake, ‘splosions, and maybe some drama. Possibly ninjas. ”
All we need now is a possible ninja, and Dave will have given us all these!
There was a ninja, we saw it a few pages back. He was keeping a eye on Dabbler.
Maybe Math? We just haven’t seen him in full regalia yet.
I’m reminded of a strip Millholand of S*P* did when one of his fans at a con asked for more ninjas in his comic.
He said what do you mean, there’s ninjas in almost all my comics. the guy asked where? He didn’t see any. and Millholand replyed ” Well they are doing a real good job of hiding arn’t they?”
Ninjas have been done to death. Even zombie ones on a Voltron I saw recently. (A planet of ninja trained geniuses no less.) Now if they were zombie-vampires aka zumbies, then maybe. (When the Vm virus doesn’t code well with certain human genomes. See “Blade” for an example.)
The touch of drool in the corner of Sydney’s mouth in panel 6 is priceless.
Nice intro for the guys! LOL. On a side note, I think someone mentioned the chokers are throat mikes maybe? Throat mikes were a pain when I used them. It is a hassle to toggle a throat mike when your hands are busy. Collar mikes are easier with the switch in a wrist area. My 2 cents. :-)
Curious that Math, at least, isn’t listed in the ‘Who’s who?’ box on the right, as he has been in the past…
Only people with lines get credit. Oh, wait; he does have a line. Congratulations! You found Dave’s first screw up of the page.
As a guy, I have just gained a new understanding of how girls can get insecure from looking at models in magazines…
I read an interesting comment on a forum somewhere that suggested that Superhero comics are just as damaging to men as they are to women (who are all draw like sex kittens in battle lingerie) The men are all insanely fit and stalwart and true and never give up and are always right in the end, etc. Think about growing up reading Batman or something and feeling that you have to be as good/ rich/ handsome/ successful/ just/ righteous/ relentless as him to “be a man” Interestingly it was posted by an ascribed feminist who was sick of other feminists going on about how sexist comic books are. I think her point was that they’re works of fantasy and everyone in them is some sort of idealized archetype and people need a little perspective when discussing them.
Mm, maybe, but men don’t end up starving themselves to death trying to reach that ideal, and *most* of them don’t try to take steroids to match the physique either. I’ll grant that it’s an unachievable ideal but it’s nowhere near as pervasive as the “females must have 0% body fat and boobs out to here” one — speaking as a guy, mind you.
If you have boobs you are more than 0% fat. They are almost all fat. And if you did have zero fat you would be dead. The brain too has lots of fat to keep it healthy. Just imagine one day there will be people engineered to fit this psychotic image of “perfection.”
Men with eating disorders are underrepresented because they are less likely to seek help from medical professionals.
I feel the urge to be a d!ck:
Google ‘bigorexia’ for me, will you?
On to my point – people tend to have ideals. People also tend to be exposed to other people’s ideals and some of those people feel compelled to do stupid sh!t to live up to them.
Don’t get me wrong – a disorder can be a scary thing. More often than not it is. You can’t just point to an artist or an author or whatever and say it’s all their fault a woman is starving herself or a guy is ‘roiding his nuts into oblivion.
After all – do you know people that practice chastity because of Twilight… and can you really complain if they do? (Darwinism at it’s best I say!)
Yeah, sorry, I should have clarified — I’m not saying that there aren’t guys with body image problems brought on by unrealistic depictions in media; just that women have it *so much worse*. Because it’s not just superhero comic books that show unrealistic women; every advertisement uses Photoshop to stretch limbs and eliminate organs (while they don’t do the same to add muscle mass to men, since that’s comparatively difficult), and there are far fewer “everyman” female characters (i.e. more-or-less average appearance) than there are such male characters. Meanwhile you only really run into the male extremes in the superhero genre, videogames, and bodybuilding competitions, which leaves a lot of room to find realistic role models.
Whether or not it’s healthier to think that you’re too fat because your stomach isn’t perfectly flat (pushing to reach the “female ideal”), or to think that you’re too weak because your biceps aren’t bigger than your head (pushing to reach the “male ideal”), is a separate matter.
Fortunately, most women don’t go to such extremes either. Without bothering to look up any info about this, I do think that women are more susceptable to this. While I’ve been insecure about my body for a long time (6.6” and 160 lbs), now it only bothers me when I need new clothes. That would be so much easier with an average build.
You’re 6’6″ and 160 lbs?
Do you just have no fat or muscle?
I’m over 160 at 5’11” and I’m a pretty skinny, not-muscled dude… I knew a really skinny guy in college who was 6’4″ and 200…
or did you mean 5’6″?
Got you beat: 5′ 11” and only 130-135 (fluxuates a lot), so yeah, I’m scrawny enough to be the bastard child of Jack Skellington! Before people start saying “Damn, someone throw that kid a sandwich”, I should explain that this is mostly due to a mild muscle disorder. Short version is my muscles were put together in such a way as to make them less effeicient, and thus must be exerted more to do the same amount of work (It’s also more diffucult to build muscle mass, but I am able and continue to do so). This means I also go through calories and protien at a faster rate and my body has adapted to make my metabolism burn hotter than normal, which helps a lot as far as recouperating. Also my defective muscles are loser and more elastic, making me more flexible and giving me a higher range of motion. Oh yeah, and my % body fat is so low that my skin sticks straight to the muscle beneath it, meaning I can eat like crazy and still maintain 6 pack (arguably 8 pack) abs with almost no effort.
PS: Sorry if I made an ass of myself with that last comment, that sounded more like gloating than was intended.
PPS: For anyone who still feels like throwing me a sandwich, feel free as I tend to get hungry a lot . . . please?
At first, I misunderstood the 6′ 6″ and thought it was a girl being insecure because of height/weight issues. Realized my goof-up shortly after.
I’m a 6′ lady and height alone makes me insecure. Guys do not look at me like “woah, check out those legs!” they look at me like “Is that a post-op guy? Or is she just freakin tall?”
However, the reason I chose to respond to this particular comment was the bit about the sandwich. I’ve had a fast metabolism my whole life, so I can’t gain weight either, and I’m always hungry, and if I don’t eat, I lose weight way too fast (yay fainting. not.) so I empathize and wish to offer you sandwiches and cookies. And a hug. If you want one. :)
Believe it or not, that was my first thought too! Which would have been cool because we might’ve had the real life version of anvil reading the comic.
Also, Yeah the fainting thing sucks. Only happened to me twice thankfully. I do know a girl who’s about your height or maybe an inch taller, and she had quite a few issues with fainting. Her husband is about 5′ 6″ I think, and I refuse to give him any greif over it partly because (like your fiance) he was in the army and I believe he’s built enough to pick me up and hurl me a good distance!
PS: There are few problems in this world that can’t be aided with a liberal application of hugs, and they’re an almost unlimited resource. When will people figure this out?!
The thing that sucks about being a 6′ lady (if you’re insecure about your height) is that heels make you more self conscious about your height, so about 80% of cool women’s shoes are not an option for.
The cool thing about being a 6′ woman is that you can go all Xena/Amazon with it and own it. She-Hulk cosplay please. :) Some guys aren’t turned off by taller than average.
I think the 6’6″ 160 guy is gonna be skinnier than 5’11” 130.
Sorry, I Should have specified. I was referring to you being 5’11” and 160. At the time DJugular hadn’t responded yet and it remained unkown whether he was 6’6″ or 5’6″, so I wasn’t going to try and compare until his height was confirmed for cetain. . . and now that it has been it, it seems I have been put to shame. I mean 7″ taller and only 30 lbs heavier? Yeah, I’d say I’m soundly defeated.
Very little muscle and very little fat (so still good definition). I just can’t seem to put on weight, but like my good docter said: as long as I’m healthy, it’s not a problem.
It had it’s benefits when I did teakwon-do. I had a huge reach-advantage over the other guys in my weightclass.;)
At 6’6″? Yeah, you can bet I believe it! If you were ever attacked by a guy with a knife, you could probably pimp slap him several times before he even got to you. Throw in martial arts training and the other guy wouldn’t even stand a chance!
Good god, I could break you in half.
I’m 6’0″ and 230. I admit to having a bit of belly fat (which my dear sainted mother rags me NONSTOP for) but if I lost more than 20 pounds, I’d be at the point of losing muscle, organ, and water weight instead of fat.
You must be Slender(wo)man.
5’6 180lb but not really fat. A bit of a paunch though. Doc said my bones are just slightly more dense then normal. *shrugs*
I can believe that with the current comics. The past years the artwork for comics went more towards idealized (unrealisticly so) characters. Back in the 80’s, superheroes weren’t nearly as buffed/ripped as they are today. Spiderman was your typical nerd, Adam West played Batman and other human heroes (like cyclops, superman, cap America etc.) looked quite average.
It’s a new perspective, isn’t it? ;)
At the same time, it’s important to note the differences. In this kind of case, the look is still a male-power fantasy, rather than a “submission to the other side” fantasy. So while it can give a better idea of how women can be affected when treated like objects, it’s still not quite on the same level.
I’m sure I have a comic or two in me with Dabbler treating a guy like an object. :3
And somehow, I’m getting the feeling that said guy still won’t mind very much.
I know I wouldn’t. :D
Ditto.
I’m the other way around. I’m 5’10 330 Lbs. and look like I’m only 260 Lbs.
Comes with having a dense musculiture. When I’m in shape I can lift a lot. That’s not me now, becaus I’ve lived a fairly sedatary lifestyle the last few years, but I can still lift a lot
5’11.5 and 70kgs (no idea what that is in lbs). I constantly snack on junk food (mostly chocolate. Mmmm, Cadbury top-deck), owing to a weird stomach-ache that I’ve had since early 2008. Sugar keeps the pain down, doctor’s haven’t been able to figure it out. The most exercise I get these days is walking to the shops and back, 30-40 minutes at most.
Throat mikes. Collar mikes. We’ve even seen a mention of Dick Tracy watches.
Meanwhile, Arianna starts tapping shoulders and says “Pssst. Hey, you guys ever hear of Bluetooth?”
Bluetooth in a melee wouldn’t be secure enough. Rapid motion and radical changes of momentum means the standard models come loose after a bit. What they need is something you could imagine Bruce Lee wearing in one of his fight scenes.
Maby a sort of headband that hooks up to the ear? Sort of a sweatband look with a symbol similar to the chokers. Like Rambos headband.
Just throwing out suggestions.
That wold be fine for Achilles, but everyone else might want something with a bit more protection if they’re going into a firefight. Granted, the ladies’ collars wouldn’t be the most practical ID in that situation either.
Look up Blueparrot.
I basically live in my Blueparrot with the behind-the-head support system, and it’s been secure in a variety of acrobatic situations up to and including mild scuffling.
Then again, I’m no Math, and ‘mild scuffling’ does not mean ‘violent fistfight’. So perhaps even the Parrot isn’t secure enough.
I suppose since they are all still getting used to being in the same building together there is going to be a lot of drooling going on. Possibly quite a lot of, ummm, ‘side activity’ as well (the Olympics needed how many thousand condoms?!?).
That being said, there are going to be a lot fewer shenanigans a month or three down the road. It would be like a security goon walking through a Vegas showgirl changing room – he wouldn’t even blink at that point.
I admit that when I see someone I like to look at unclothed I don’t drool. I’m not going to be eating them. If anything I get dry mouth and a certain pleasurable tingling sensation down there.
Hah! Took me until now to realize Thing #1 is taking a picture with a camera phone. Well played, Harem.
DaveB, How come Harem is diffrent heights when she is basicly clones of each other?
I’m refrencing pannel eight.
Different shoes.
That and different posture. The hip cock takes an inch or two off height depending on how severe it is.
Ohhh, me likes!
Heh, I was having a shitty day and it just got better. Thank you Dave! (And gratuitous fanservice)
The problem is that I’m in the uni library now so I can’t spend as much time as I’d like imitating Sydney…
Must finish work quickly!!
Bring a towel! Ooh, maybe I should sell branded “Beefcake Runoff Towels” Except not call them that because that sounds super gross.
In the same store as the “Gratuitous Fanservice” jeans?
“Now available at your local Gym!”
Yeah, that does sound disgusting. Even knowing what it’s for, it’s still gross. Still, if you could figure out a new name for it, it could be a big hit XD