Grrl Power #111 – Truesight Shmuesight
Writing is an interesting process that I’m still pretty new to. (As evidenced by the fact that I just ended a sentence with a preposition. Which people think is bad, but in fact there is no rule against.) I always had a few notions of how Peggy would behave, and there’s a few critical scenes she’ll be in and I know how she’ll act in those, but there was still a lot of character that needed to be filled in. I have done enough writing to know that you generally don’t have to worry about that stuff though. As long as you keep to the spirit of the character and are mindful of those pivotal scenes, characters will write themselves. I like the direction Peggy has taken already. Despite getting along quite well with many of the supers, she is one of those obscenely skilled humans that is probably a little annoyed at the ones think they’re all that when they haven’t put in nearly the same effort into developing themselves as she has. Apparently she deals with it by calmly taking the wind out of their sails as we see here.
Arc-Aegis by the way, is in charge of security and defense. Once a super containment facility is in place, they’ll be in charge of that as well.
Speaking of Peggy, anyone have any recommendations for what pistols she might use? I’ve drawn her carrying two. I googled “accurate pistol” or something and it looks like semi-auto pistols are generally more accurate than revolvers. In fact I didn’t see any revolvers used for competition shooting, but I didn’t spend a ton of time on it. The one in her shoulder holster is a semi-auto, maybe a .45 ACP or something? The problem is if you google stuff like that and stumble blind into a forum, everyone has their opinions and it’s hard to get a feel for what an actual really good, accurate pistol is. I’m sure there are crazy accurate single shot pistols out there but Peggy would carry something that’s actually practical in a firefight. Her hip holster (which you can just barely see poking out from behind the word bubble in panel 5) I figure should have less emphasis on accuracy and more on stopping power. Nothing like Max’s T-Rex, but maybe a 3-5 round revolver loaded with something that would go through someone who’s face is as tough as an engine block.
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The FN Five-seveN would a decent choice (if you’re looking for something less lethal.) And for max Stopping power, you’d still be looking at a revolver, like a Redhawk, Magnum, or equivalent. Semi-auto, I’d read That Knight’s comment, as it seems fairly accurate for what you’d be looking for in that case. Regardless, I’m sure we’re all curious as to what the final verdict will be. Good luck!
PS, I had a strange feeling of de ja vu, and you had put a few guns (for reference?) on Peggy’s character history card/ page. Are you teasing us? Or just getting some more ideas before they’re all set in stone? lol
Those are her rifles, I’m asking about sidearms.
Try asking a weapons-master like Michael Z Williamson, not only really familiar with guns, he’s a good writer too. – He’s on FB, or if you want, I can have him drop you a line on this page.
Standard military and gun guru rule of thumb is, if it doesn’t start in .4X caliber, it’s not good enough.
Casul .454 is a fine ass stopper for the eclectic. For someone worried about precision as much as stopping power (or at least to annoy certain supers…) — I’d let Mike talk bout that.
Another person to talk to on FB is Larry Correia- writer of Monster Hunter series, he’s an ex-gunstore owner/operator and still is a collector/user and weaponsmith too.
Above friendships benefit of being a writer and a Baen Barfly. Got an armor question? Tom Kratman might answer a few.
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FN Five-seveN would be a great sidearm for Peggy, very accurate with a flat trajectory, and is plenty lethal; it penetrates very well and the military ammunition is rated to go through body armor. Besides, being the team sniper, I’m sure Peggy could easily hit whatever part of somebody she needs to. And to top it all off the standard magazine size for the Five-seveN is 20 rounds, and you can easily find 30 round extended mags.
Lol can you tell that I want to get one?
Guys, you have to realise that Peggy is a small framed woman. She might be realy tough for her size, but she would want a weapon that would be comfortable for her to carry and be able to take down someone who might be slightly bullet proof.
That’s why I say a .40 cal. glock with armor piercing rounds would be the type of gun she would use in most situations.
DaveB said she will be carying two guns, and for the second I have no idea other than it should be something she would use if her other gun didn’t have the stopping power to do the job properly. If you have a good idea for a weapon with that kind of stopping power that wouldn’t break Peggys wrists pleas feel free to say something.
Well, since Peggy is the teams sniper, i would say…
A PSG 1, maybe.
Not one of those cal. 50 monsters everybody seems so fond of these days, that´s for sure.
That may have been true 30 years ago, but firearm technology has made caliber and power irrelevant when determining ease of handling (outside monster rounds like a .454 or a S&W 500). My sister in law, at 5’4″ and 110lb prefers the Springfield XD .45 as her weapon of choice.
Also, “armor piercing” is a bit of a myth. All that’s needed to punch through a Kevlar vest is a sufficiently powerful round (or a moderate application of a knife since the fibers are useless against cutting – a pair of scissors will slide right through the stuff). There isn’t a magical design to turn a .40 into some “cop killing” round of destruction. Firearm ammunition is a bludgeoning force, and a .40 pistol round lacks the energy required to pierce any kind of modern armor.
That said, a .45 is preferable from a basic logistic standpoint as the .45 is more common than the .40. In addition, the size and weight difference is negligible, so weapon capacity is not affected (especially with the XD’s side stack magazine design).
Also, a pistol in the military is an “oh shit” weapon, meaning you’re out of everything else and are getting ready to be overwhelmed by the enemy. They aren’t even issued much anymore to soldiers and are more of an officer status symbol. Peggy, being a pilot (assuming she has no direct ground combat role), falls into that “oh shit” category; if she needs to draw the weapon, she’s likely in it deep enough where survival is slim. As such, issuing a fictional, special anti-super pistol is not a wise use of resources.
One of the reasons I chose a .40 cal. was because of magazine size and stopping power. You can fire two to four more rounds with a 40 over a 45.
I know the axim that you only use a hand gun until you can get a hold of a rifle, but there are some situations when a few extra rounds can mean the diffrence between them or you being the one left standing.
So would something with a front like a broadhead arrow be any use for kevlar / other fibre-based armour? Maybe with a spur at the circumference to ensure all-round cutting? The aerodynamics might need a bit of work, and the reduced mass would affect the range, but it might make a useful mod to an otherwise standard load.
I think most U.S. armed forces use the Beretta M9 (which uses 9x19mm Parabellum ammunition). I don’t know what firearms are most commonly used among U.S. police forces, but Arc-whatever looks like a military-heavy organization anyway.
Glock M22, a .40 if I recall correctly.
I’d suggest a Detonics Scoremaster.
Highly accurate, lightweight, built for the .45 round.
I forget what writer first suggested this, but remember to stick the word ‘modified’ in the description. That way when somebody points out that a Brown Bess musket doesn’t have a full-auto mode, you can agree that an unmodified one doesn’t.
Sorry, but by definition, it would no longer be considered a musket because it’s not muzzle-loaded =p Outside of that, yes, I do agree that ‘modified’ is acceptable to certain extents.
well, now we can justify the insanity of Tokugawa’s cannon-spear in Samurai Warriors 2, i suppose.
(it should be crap as both cannon and spear, with all sorts of issues for the user, but the biggest problem is how the hell it fires three cannon balls at once…)
Carefully?
a cannon “can”shoot 3 at once as long as there loaded in right an theres a nuf force to push them out of the berral becuse thats basicaly the same as a anti ship round called a master cutter is 2-3 balls with chain linking them together
I think the term is “Mast Cutter” because thats what it was designed to do. Take out the mast and rigging on a sailing vessel to render it helpless and unable to maneuver. Basically a sitting duck.
In the spirit of that, Peggy should be using a modified Bowie knife that can shoot incendiary rounds, tear gas cannisters, anti-personnel mines, and a 12d6 Cone of Cold three times per day.
Am I the only one playing Borderlands 2 right now?
It seems to me that since Peggy just happens to work for a rather powerful
and well funded organization that focuses on working with super-persons
and general world threats, that they just might have done some R&D in the
weapons department to make sure they are ready for anything,
and if that’s the case, since Peggy is the resident gun expert, it makes
sense that she would be the one to be packin’ these guns.
Doesn’t have to be crazy, but it doen’t necessarily have to be a standard model either.
Hellboy’s Samaritan comes to mind.
COuple of things folks -have hit on, but not so much in the same comment. The Mk.23 and Five Seven have HUGE grips, I have fired them both, and I’m a fairly big guy. Someone stated the 5.7 for “less lethal”, which is not exactly right- it lacks stopping power, but within 50m, it is terribly accurate, and it will punch through kevlar like it’s old denim~ Again, due to the size of the round the grips are really, really big though. As to the caliber of the round, probably a couple of the best compromise rounds are the sig .357 or the .40. Boith rounds take the same amount of space, and a “normal” weapon like myt Astra a-100 can hold 13 rounds of either .40 or .357 sig- (or 17 rounds of 9mm…), and my wife who wears childrens gloves (for hand size) can and does shoot it a lot. Not the “best” gun out there, but it’s basically a sig p226, just different-sized, and well, at the time 1/2 the cost of a sig. In conclusion- I’d have her look at a new version of a Sig, they can take silencers, come in a variety of barrel lengths and magazine capacities, and are also available in .40 and .357 sig- and finally, she could carry different one in the same caliber, but in different configurations depending on whether it was a drag-out fight or concealed- and have the same controls such as hammer-drops and magazine releases, so as to minimize issues under stress.
Sorry.. Though you’re right that the 5.7 rips through Kevlar (and similar) it is still lethal to people.. but less so than some of the other rounds that have the capacity to go through Kevlar. I said ‘less lethal’ so I apologize without clarifying; the bullet was designed to prevent overpenetration into skin (ballistics jelly) as well as fragmentation. Coupled with the fact that it has less kinetic energy in the bullet (the design is what cuts through the Kevlar) the effective range is a chunk shorter than conventional bullets. It is in no way a ‘non-lethal- bullet’ it’s just less lethal than the alternatives.
Indeed. Sorry, but I find a lot of people that get all of their gun knowledge from 3 soiurces- Wikipaedia, Guns.ru and and a buncha first-person shooters. It makes me a bit crazy sometimes, as one of the companies I work with is one that game designers come out to USE these guns! We let them play with things from MG-34 and 42s up to G36’s and the like. And still they don’t get it… So I do apologize if I came off wrong there- I did not intend any offense, should any have been taken.
I still believe she’d do really well with a SIg in either .40 or .357 sig… Too many reasons the other rounds have against them. Just like in the defensive handgun courses- you can choose conceivability, stopping power, reliability or magazine capacity. But you only get 2, and you can’t have stopping power with capacity, sorry…
Peggy…it seems you aren’t prepared for this level of crazy.
In terms of a stopping power revolver, for my money it would be tough to beat something like the Taurus Judge, or the scaled down, but just as powerful Taurus Judge Model 4510 public defender. It can chamber 5 rounds of either .45 ACP rounds, or 2.5″ .410 shotgun shells. With the right ammunition, the .45 can generate up to 460 ft-lbs of stopping force at the muzzle, never mind the mind blowing stopping power of a .410 #000 buck shot load that can generate more that 660 ft-lbs of force at the muzzle, or the .410 slug round that can exceed 790ft-lbs of stopping force at the muzzle. Granted, with such high-powered rounds the recoil can be pretty intense, but as a professional shooter recoil is nothing that Peggy shouldn’t be able to handle. Especially considering that she will have trained extensively with whatever weapon you choose to giver her.
Presumably, she could even have a larger shotgun pistol customized and special made for her that could chamber an even bigger, and thus more powerful round such as a .615 20-gauge, but you would be looking at a larger, heavier, clumsier weapon, with a lot more recoil.
Good lord that Taurus Raging Judge is huge.
Moving back to Sydney, what this strip brought up for me is how nearly useless that sphere would be, generally. I mean, it sees through illusions. How often do you do that? Is it something she’d even had a chance to find out before the scene in the ballroom? What circumstance would have ever given her a chance to find out what it did before that moment?
I believe it was one of the spheres where she hadn’t figured out what it does.
She knew it made the mini orb come out and project the illusion version of herself, but she didn’t know about the truesight function.
Somewhat ironically, the more sophisticated the disguise, the more likely the orb is to be able to see through it.
As a primary weapon, I suggest anything between 9mm and .40. In the hands of a crack shot, armour penetration is pointless to have, if you go for a kill. Most people don’t have kevlar over their faces. And if they’re wearing full suits, bring a LAW of some sort.
As backup where the pistol doesn’t cut it, I’d suggest a custom oneshot handcannon, with the added technobabble of hydralic recoil-dampening. Or again, just bring a LAW. Works wonder for intimidation against people who don’t know much about military weapons too.
A 9mm Glock pistol is what cops use and they are quite accurate.
I’ll throw in with the group suggesting a modified 1911 for Peggy’s “normal use” gun. They can even be chambered in 9mm, if you’re looking for “less powerful”.
As far as a backup hand-cannon, the Mateba auto revolver is a neat thing – like the newer Rhino, it has a lowered barrel, but is (sort of) semiautomatic, so it has better trigger characteristics than many revolvers. It’s available in a variety of chamberings (including .44 mag), and that’s leaving out the possibility of a custom job. A revolver chambered in .308, perhaps? That certainly wouldn’t want for stopping power.
In 1990, I got to go to a weapons expo/demo they had at Ft. Benning. FUN! The weapons that interested me the most were air-powered rifles and pistols, based on the splat-ball type technology. Simple, reliable, effective, and very, very quiet. The neat thing about these is that they allowed for all kinds of modified rounds, including paint, as no brass was needed. The only thing that the inventor said was holding him back was our state of metallurgy, but he was pretty certain that those problems would be solved around the turn of the century. I could see Peggy using a variant of the same, sans the giant hopper on top, allowing her to pack several magazines (yes, I meant magazines) and CO2 cartridges, allowing for NND (No Normal Defense) attacks like sleepy-time rounds, sticky gels, flame retardants, and tracking/marking paint for example.
I can see how Peggy and Max are friends. I’m guessing that Peggy is really good at piercing through Max’s rages with a bit of sarcastic reasoning.
The way I see it, there are three real choices for her gun[1]:
First, she uses a standard US military sidearm. Possibly modified and definitely gone over to ensure it is as close to perfect as possible.
Second, it’s a {Nonexistent Model} from {Quality Manufacturer}. This model is either a short-run or prototype or it is something created in response to the realities of a world different from ours.
Third, it’s a fully custom build. Either for ArcSWAT in general or for Peggy in particular.
In any case, she isn’t going to be using mass-produced ammunition.
[1] All of which will also protect you from grief as the writer.
Accuracy but it’s a revolver :
A french Manurhin MR-73
.357 magnum
6 rounds
https://world.guns.ru/handguns/double-action-revolvers/fr/manurhin-mr-73-e.html
Accurate and reliable.
Stoping power
A russian U-94 “Udar”
https://world.guns.ru/handguns/double-action-revolvers/rus/u-94-udar-e.html
Smal length: 173 mm (6.85″ approx)
caliber : 12.3mm rounds (.48)
Magazine capacity:5 rounds
Amazing stoping power but not a great accuracy
I’ll add my 2 cents.
As I see it we have either a revolver, semi-auto pistol or a machine pistol to choose from. I’ll discount machine pistol as it seems as a sniper she would rely more on hitting the target accurately with single shots, even with a side arm. As for the particular model, I don’t think it matters so much if she is supposed to be an expert marksman (do we have any comparison to an average soldier?). I’d assume ArcSWAT in general use more specialized weapons and ammunitions or have easy access to them, in which case the weapon may be a more custom build, perhaps the existing standard for the military modified to be able fire specialized rounds.
To be honest, I would suggest you go with whatever your favourite is, or what you are most comfortable with. Peggy would have a fair amount of freedom to choose a side arm, you should be able to come up with a reason for use of any particular gun that has or has not been discussed so far.
*flees before the gun nuts catch up with me*
Dave, for Peggy’s big gun I would choose one of these three:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IMI_Desert_Eagle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_Model_500
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taurus_Raging_Bull
Peggy seems the type to have some simple, reliable military or police-issue semi-auto pistols; she most likely trained with those while she was in the standard military and knows the ins and outs of them like instinct. Something with standardized parts, so she can easily find replacements and make repairs in the field.
Desert Eagles are overrated. If you want stopping power, give her a shotgun with sabot rounds — much more stable, less likely to sprain a wrist.
1) In general revolvers are more accurate. Having said that there are some relatively cheap and simple modifications that can turn any semi-auto in to an extremely accurate competition level weapon. The semi-autos also have larger magazines.
2) Grip size and recoil matter. Doesn’t matter how good you are, if the frame doesn’t fit your hand you don’t have the control. Same issue with recoil, some weapons have very strong recoil while another one in the same caliber has practically nothing. You either can control it or you can’t ( Skill and training meet physics )
3) Guns are a tool. Use the right tool for the job. The .45 is a good standard tool. My suggestion would be that Peggy has a couple ‘favorites’ she carries around generally and then adjusts her equipment based on what she expects to be doing with it. Unless you are a gun nut I would suggest keeping it simple. Basic military issue should work fine.
Most police I know use 40 to 45 cal (10mm). Also, there are a LOT of specialty loads for 45’s that are truly impressive, in addition to a host of sweet shooting custom weapons. Then there are LARGE caliber weapons that have custom frames for smaller hands (45 magnum Grizzly and the 454 Casull from Ruger). By the way, revolvers are not as gast a weapon reload as an automatic, but they are extremely accurate. In the hands of a pro, a custom revolver is deadly. Good luck. :-)
Just my two cents, The STI tactical series of 1911s is fantastically accurate, and available in multiple calibers and barrel lengths. The Heckler and Koch USP series is also very accurate, durable and reliable. But if you are looking for accuracy AND stopping power, and Peggy’s main thing is being a top shot, then i would go with a revolver. The aesthetic is slightly better, and the kinetic force behind magnum loads is greater than automatic pistol loads, which have more of a “I’m going to hit you with a tiny hammer” affect. The Smith and Wesson model 627 is a good choice, not ridiculously huge, but has a higher capacity, looks good, and is chambered in .357 magnum. Alternatively you could run Colt Pythons, or the Smith and Wesson 629 V comp with the unfluted cylinder. A very handsome weapon in my opinion. Again, balancing function and form, this is a comic after all. Perhaps a revolver (or two) as the main “walking around” weapon with a compact sized automatic as an “Oh shit” back up?
Well, for Peggy’s pistol, standard military issue is a Baretta 92F in 9mm. Some Security forces use a Sig Sauer M11A1 in 9mm. Elite forces (such as Delta) and snipers use a M1911 platform in .45ACP. And pilots use a pistol-version of the MP5 SMG in 9mm.
I find the panel with the black girl seemed fuzzy until I zoomed it.
Unzooming it, seems oh so slightly fuzzy again — weird!
I can’t put my finger on it, but you rescaled that one didn’t you??
Oh and Peggy is overcompensating for her non-superpowerness, which is a defense mechanism common enough in highly skilled handicapped people (even SLIGHT handicaps). I was wondering if Sydney was going to verbally walk all over Peggy or vice versa, I guess that page anwsered my question fully… (-;
That’s weird. I drew her like normal. Maybe the lower contrast of the darker skin color against the ink lines is throwing you? But I did use the same skin tone I use for Anvil so I don’t know what you’re seeing.
Peggy appears to have handled that in the same way I would have. I imagined her giving it in a deadpan voice too.
“Peggy’s rifles of choice are the British L115A1 Long Range Rifle, an AWM configured for .338 Lapua Magnum (8.6 x 70mm), also known as the Arctic Warfare Super Magnum (AWSM). She also uses the Barret XM500, a bullpup version of the venerated Barret M107 .50 cal., for when the
situation calls for power over the extreme accuracy the AWSM.”
there ya go, the author lists in the character description what kind of rifles she prefers, for pistols I’d say something easy to handle with a kick
I like the semi auto Barret, but not a fan of bullpups. The Brits discovered that troops armed with the SA80 bullpup rifles tended to patrol urban environments on the left side of the street. A soldier taking cover in a doorway could only fire with the rifle mounted to his right shoulder unless he was willing to be struck repeatedly in the face by hot brass. It made them predictable and I’m assuming Peggy is not one to limit her options.
Hahahaha, go Peggy! Sydney acting the maggot so Peggy will ask what’s going on, just so Sydney can explain another orb to her, and then Peggy just slams her back in place.
I can see why Max and Peggy are such good friends: both have a sense of humour, but neither takes sh*t after a certain point, and they make it well known that they do not. Peggy will make captain or major soon that way, I’d say.
You’re best choice for pistols would be a CZ 75. They are light, accurate, have slide customizability for different caliburs and those changes can be made quickly, and are fairly simple to draw.
All you need to know is here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CZ_75
After reading these comments and thinking of what peggy would go thru, sounds like she should simply have a custom Sniper rifle and handguns designed to take custom ‘gadget’ ammo, along with standard bullets. Like some flashbang bullets for escapes, or mini-emp for power armors.
Perhaps even a combat/transport heli with X’s steath technology and a sniper pearch, so she can dropoff/extract the team or rain sniper rounds from above while remaining mostly un-detectable.
Actually, Peggy is acting much like a mid-level NCO dealing with a newb low-rank officer (butter bar). Heh.
I imagine Peggy has a large number of firearms in storage for various operations, for example, a Walther PPK with matching evening gown for “Bond nights.” A girl can dream, right?
Her primary is almost certainly a customized version of the service pistol she had for many years when she was in USAF. Familiarity is going to be the number one criteria for gun nuts.
If the secondary is for “big threats” it’s probably something crazy like the snubnose .454 Casull Super Redhawk Alaskan, probably chambered with aluminum slugs (which start on fire when they’re fired).
If it’s a back up gun for when something goes wrong with her primary, it’s probably a smaller framed, lighter version of the primary.
Also, you might consider a taser for her. People that are invulnerable to kinetic energy may not be so to electricity. (I wonder if a taser would work on achilles? Looking at his profile, I would say “no,” so his only vulnerability is still mullet jokes.)
On another note, it’s fun that the uniforms the supers wear are bare-midriff. I anticipate an interesting scene when Sydney gets outfitted.
Also, also, is that a Tomey tattoo on Peggy’s profile picture?
I have a feeling Peggy isn’t cocktail dress kinda gal.
Uh….just wanted to say that in regards to a “high power weapon”, there are two things you do not want.
1: Short barrel. You want a long barrel. A long barrel allows the bullet to be accelerated for a longer time, giving you much more velocity for a given caliber. A short barrel is a sacrifice of power for concealment.
2: A bullet made from anything that isn’t lead, brass, copper or tungsten. Aluminum is far too light. Yes, an aluminum bullet will start very quickly from the muzzle, but it will rapidly decelerate due to air resistance. Also, even if you hit the target at extremely close range, the aluminum shot will have very little penetration, and may actually be stopped by even heavy clothing. You want MASS in a bullet. For accuracy, you want a long bullet. The entire point of a “magnum” cartridge is to push a heavy bullet, fast. Lead is the standard as we know it. It is a heavy, dense metal that works. Almost all bullets made today are copper jacketed lead. A growing segment however are being made from copper alloy, partly to reduce lead contamination, and has fairly reliable terminal ballistics (it’s not as soft as lead, and is less likely to fragment, allowing it to penetrate deeper), but it is a little lighter. Brass is being used in some cares for extreme accuracy shooting, as people are taking solid brass ingots, and milling them down on lathes to make very, very, very accurate bullets. But they are hard, and do not expand, and are really not for hunting, or hurting people, but they would stand a decent chance against armor. Tungsten is similar in idea as Brass, but much, much harder to work with. Best used as a “penetrator” core, to punch through body armor, with a softer lead carrier around it.
I wonder if anybody makes DUM hollowpoint rounds for a 40 or 45 cal. handgun?
That would be my idea of something that would stop a super.
You’re right that she has quite a collection of firearms. I’m having trouble picturing her in a gown though.
I don’t know what a Tomey Tattoo is. Googling it met with mixed results.
Tomie (wrong spelling before, please excuse me) is the magic book in Zebragirl.
https://zebragirl.net/?date=2000-06-02
I can imagine Peggy in a mission demanding cocktail attire. Maybe a mission where no supers can go. She could dance the tango with Math. It would probably be ten years down the line, though. Too many supers stories have to come first.
Now that Sydney knows what that orb can do, I see her (always expect Ninjas) bit to have her making alot of use of it. Might have to leash her on that or else she might start being a bit paranoid. Not that she hasn’t had reason in this building.
Well, she used it and actualy met a teckno-ninja. Her paranoia was vindicated.
Peggy seems like the kind of pseudo-military security force chick that would carry a Five-seven:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Five-seven
I’ve fired many different revolvers and Semi-auto pistols and I can say with confidence that either of them can be very accurate. I hit bullseye from within 10 yds no problem with proper grip control and trigger squeeze. Assuming Peggy is better than me as she would have far more experience, she can use whatever she likes.
That said, it comes down to what she wants to do with it (what you want her to do with it). As a personal preference, if I was in a special military unit, I would want to have higher capacity and faster/more convenient reloads available. So I would go with a semi-auto in .40 -.45 caliber.
My personal favorite is the Springfield XDM .40 as it has high capacity (16 rounds per magazine), high stopping power in the .40 caliber, and is a good quick draw weapon as it has newer style weapon safeties which don’t require the flick of a switch – just proper shooting handling. Basically the weapon won’t go off unless you are intending to shoot it anyway. With such a weapon she could keep a round chambered and be able to just pull and fire when necessary. I’m sure you can see the benefits of such a thing while drawing it artistically as well (one less step! Hooray!)
But there are many other great models out there. I saw some pretty sweet Kahr models called the “black rose”. They are pretty much custom designed artistically.
Look around, I’m sure you’ll find a model you think Peggy “would like” and use.
I am ex military, cavalry scout 19D. I am 6′ 2″ but have small hands. The 9mm Beretta has a double stack magazine which makes it significantly thicker than the single stack .45 1911. I would consider smaller caliber rounds to be MORE deadly than the .45 for the same reasons as Moussad, CIA, Mafia and police departments. Assassins prefer smaller .22 ammo because they are both quieter and have larger magazines. Typically you make lots of little holes and let the target exsanguinate because he cannot quickly plug all the bleeding holes. One reason for switching from .38 special to .45 is that it took more .38 bullets to subdue a criminal and therefore fewer died with the switch.
I would expect 3 pistols. A .45 SOCOM 1911 with a locking slide for use with a silencer against sentries. Typical choice for spec-ops and then personalized by Peggy. Second ‘pistol’ something like a Snakecharmer over/under .410 shotgun pistol. Add on lots of personal modifications and come up with all sorts of special ammo including taser, CS gas, Dragon’s Breath and thermobaric explosive with laser timing system like the XM25 Punisher. Lastly her hideout pistol would be the ultra rare Semmerling LM4, the worlds smallest 4 shot single action .45 magazine pistol. About the size of a single shot derringer or .25 Raven.
Good suggestions. I think she might have some sort of versatile ammo gun like you suggested, maybe not walking around the base though. I tend to be drawn to ammo types that sound like they could stop a car, but her primary pistol might be a smaller caliber like you suggested, maybe not purely for lethality, but since she’s a good shot she’s more concerned with recoil and grouping, and if you’re shooting at a regular human, pretty much any bullet crosses the threshold of being potentially lethal.
For vehicles, you want a bullet with a tungsten core, maybe from a G2 Contender or similar.
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You can’t go wrong with a Springfield Armory XDM chambered in .45 acp. Well made, reliable, high capacity magazines, and it fit comfortably in the hand unlike a Glock which feels like your aiming a gardening brick.
When I saw Peggy on cast site I knew I would like her, but I was wrong…… I LOVE HER. She is my favourite character already ;D
Thanks so much I’m glad you like her.
I’d give Peggy weapons from this list:
https://www.toptenz.net/top-10-huge-personal-firearms.php
:D
I think I saw your “just for fun” suggestion in a film once. It was being carried by a big red demon with ground-down horns and a stone hand.
So much talk of guns in the comments! It worries me a little since what I’m (oh-so-slowly) writing should also include gun cameos at some point… I kinda wonder if this is all really needed in a character driven story. Obviously some research is, but… I’m scared… Of course if this is some thing of Dave to be accurate, go Dave. I’m more asking in the way of advice here.
Aaanyway. “The snarky adventures of Sydney and Peggy” is turning out to be a great comic xD loving the interaction between those two!
all the gun talk leaves me high and dry on any discussions for this strip it seems.
Thankfully my stuff is all sci-fi/fantasy and I can make up guns instead of using real ones.
“I use a Pew Pew 4000!”
I’m obviously not a gun nut, but I really liked in the Ghost in the Shell manga how Shirow spent several pages comparing the pros and cons of several fictional guns, getting very specific with some of the details. It made for convincing banter among military types and made readers feel like the sci fi tech was really solid and grounded.
I don’t think I’ll dwell on Peggy’s gun selection in the comic, but there are people who are really into guns so when the resident gun… enthusiast whips something out, I want to make sure it’s a respectable choice. It’s better than just googling something and deciding I need to redraw it after the comic comes out because I selected the coolest looking gun and it turns out it’s kind of crappy. Of course like audiophiles, some people are so dialed in that no matter what I select for her there will be dissent. “That custom trigger looks like a nanerdoodle 424, a marksman would never use something like that! Golvan triggers or go home!” Stuff like that. I’m just trying to make a reasonable attempt to head off as much of that as I can, plus, some new commenters jump into the fray, it’s all good.
Next comic’s comments will have an entirely different topic. I can’t wait actually. :)