Tamer: Enhancer 2
I wrote another book!
Have a sequel! Wow, almost two years to the day since the first book. Well, still faster than some of the pros, eh? This book is a bit longer, at 210K words. The first book was right around 120K for comparison.
I wanted to do more with the cover, but I’m not going to hold the book hostage because I didn’t get a chance to hide Yxlyn on the cover yet. (Yeah, like 3 people noticed her on the other cover.)
Please let me know what you think! I’m amenable to all constructive feedback and abject praise. Feel free to leave comments here, but please be mindful of spoilers if you do. You can also email me at grrlpowercomic@gmail, which is also probably the best way to let me know about typos. I’ll eventually release updated versions once typo feedback slows and I’m sure most everything’s been found.
Download your format of choice here:
- Tamer Enhancer 2 – mobi Format for Kindles
- Tamer Enhancer 2 – ePub Format for not Kindles
- Tamer Enhancer 2 – PDF Format for… other? For some reason Scrivener doesn’t include the cover in pdf format just FYI.
Here’s a quick link to Book 1 since I’m sure some people will ask.
Tamer: King of Dinosaurs is by Michael-Scott Earle. I’ve linked it several times in the past. The first book is free if you’ve never checked it out, but you don’t need to be familiar with Tamer to read my story. But it’s still free and it’s good… so… get it.
Obviously, “Tamer: King of Dinosaurs” is Michael-Scott Earle’s IP and my fan work is by a fan for fans, and certainly not intended to infringe in any way.
For those of you unsure of how to get a .mobi file onto your Kindle or Kindle app on your phone/ipad, the easiest way is to download it, then email it to your kindle email. You can find this on Amazon, under “Your Contents and Devices” you’ll see a list of books you’ve bought through Amazon. Click on “Devices” up at the top and you’ll see a list of kindles and phones etc that have the kindle app installed. Click on the box with the “…” next to each device and you’ll see an email address for it. Just email that address with the .mobi attachment.
Alternatively, I’m sure you could transfer it with dropbox or google drive or whatever poison you use.
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Just a heads up the mobi link appears to me as just another epub link
Fixed!
btw with now having two of the cover grrrls =P, any chance that we might get more of the cast in artwork, voting incentives perhaps ?
That’s entirely possible.
Both of the epub, and mobi Links take you to the e-pub version. Not sure if this is on purpose or not?
I’m uploading the epub to my Google books.
Bravo, bravo! You done it. Pat yourself on the back, to many never finish their book. I will enjoy it thoroughly.
Guess we’re due for another discussion on the level of Deux’s villany.
Given the standard of living for the majority of the people in the first country he took over, compared to their current standard, I’m inclined to think that at the moment they value full bellies over the right to vote. I’m sure that will change when their children get into University. After growing up not wondering where their next meal will come from.
epub doesn’t seem like it’s properly formatted. I cannot import it into Books on iPad, and PC e-reader web plugin says it’s not a vaild epub file.
It’s always something. I have no idea where to start troubleshooting that. The files open fine in Calibre’s ebook reader, and the mobi file at least opens on my kindle.
Yessssss! Finally!
Significant increase to the tribe this time around. Gonna make TE3 interesting.
If you right click on the link to “download” the file, dropbox sends you an html page with the name of the file.
Instead, open the link and the URL will end with this: ?dl=0
Change the 0 to 1 and press enter. Your epub/mobi/pdf will download and you will be able to add it to your library without problems.
I didn’t realize that about the links. I’ll update them myself.
I was able to import the .epub file cleanly into iBooks on this, and the PDF file worked perfectly for reading on my computer earlier. No kindle, so I can’t test the .mobi file.
Also, after re-reading T:E1 and finishing T:E2 I’ve got to offer you a round of virtual applause. These stories are great, and I think you’ve done great jobs setting things up for more to be told. And if you want to tell more of this story? Do it. Not everything has to be monetized to be worth doing, and if this NEEDS to be monetized I’d happily add another dollar or two to my Patreon pledge for access to future pieces of writing chapter by chapter as well as supporting the webcomic.
Thanks! I’d like to write a third book but we’ll see where my time goes.
Thanks for the books, I read your fan fic first book, then Tamer, then the second book, then had to reread the first book and second just because. BTW if you do more and need the $ I will happily purchase them.
Stan
Not sure if this is the beat spot but here’s a typo:
She stared at me for a moment, then upon realizing I was entirely serious, a genuine, if somewhat viscous smile spread across her face. In that moment she looked dazzlingly beautiful.
You said viscous instead of vicious.
Well, given they’re aliens, proofreaders coulda missed that assuming there IS some Viscosity to the woman in question.
Context!
Hah hah, I swapped those in the previous book as well. :/ Well, that goes on the list for Rev 2.01
Dave, your prose just gets better and better.
I’ve read only a few pages of the book, so maybe you already thought about this, but I’ll put it out there in case you haven’t.
A lot of machines depend on having a perfectly flat surface. How do you make one of those if you don’t already have one? The answer to this is simple but subtle and quite interesting, and I’ve never seen it worked into the plot of a book. I think any tale of bootstrapping civilisation ought to examine this.
I imagine it involves water to begin with. Although I know levels with the bubbles in them have mineral oil in them because it has a higher surface tension and keeps the bubble intact.
Thanks for the book! These are really fun.
At the end of chapter 1 there’s the following line:
“Nira!” both Nira and I hissed at the same time.
I somehow doubt Nira says her own name in surprise or objection there, so someone else must be saying “Nira!” along with Sam, probably Yxlyn from context.
Glad you enjoyed it!
That line is admittedly a tiny bit confusing. Nira is predicting that Sam would admonish her for saying something lascivious by calling out her name, so she said it at the same time he did, thereby calling him out on becoming predictable.
I probably could have made it a little clearer, like
“Nira!” Nira hissed at me at the same time I said her name.
Or something like that.
Coulda said she smirks at him too after saying it.
Great! Again! Thank you so much. I love how some of the characters have the ideal backrounds to geek out over topics that are conveniently ignored in other stories. If I wasn’t facebook-challenged, I would post a link in MSE‘s group. Is anybody else here that can do it?
MSE has asked me to hold off announcing the book over there until after the Tamer 8 kickstarter and book is out. I’m playing in his universe, and if he thinks that’s best, I’m fine waiting till then.
Personally I think it could only help, but it’s not like he would have read either of my books, and the quality of fanfic is aaaaall over the place, so I can totally see why he wouldn’t want something else muddying the waters right before the kickstarter begins.
Oh, I see! Good thing I didn‘t try it, then.
Personally, I like your stories a bit more. Yes, they’re both different and not a one to one comparison, but I think your characters are more entertaining and colorful, and MSE’s books are carried by the characters and action scenes imo. I do like Tamer’s action more than enhancer, but not by much. The only thing Tamer has over enhancer in a large amount is pacing, buuut if there was a lot more enhancer the pacing issue wouldn’t matter. I think what really gets me about Tamer is that MSE has something like 15 editors listed and the books have soooo many errors in them. x.x
With the expanded tribe, I’m thinking there needs to be a spread of Sam and his…people…bathing. ;-)
Read it (Kindle version; file transfer went off without a hitch), loved it.
In re: your afterword, my selfish self says I want vol 3 ASAP. The rest of me says, you take care of you, and if a vol 3 ever surfaces, I will be thankful. Great job!
Book has been read, now just to wait for Tamer 8 to come out, then enhancer 3…
Dave, Enhancer 2 was a real page turner. The book hangover has been totally worth it! Great stuff, as usual. While I’ve never really been into Slice-of-Life fiction, your pacing is so strong I don’t really notice the much slower progress over typical adventure fiction. Again, a strong mark in your favour. And unlike “3 Square Meals” your cast of characters have a varied and very interesting set of personalities that interact in genuine and fun ways. (I had to give up on 3 Square Meals after the harem addition cycle got so repetitive and the ladies so one dimensional after their “joining”). And the Eye-Q power progression has been very solid as well, but I’m not surprised there. The Grrlverse world-building has been such a joy to watch I had no doubts that you’d deliver in the Enhancer series as well. So, top-notch work all around! I was just sorry I burned through it so quickly. Thanks again for sharing this with us. I very much look forward to Enhancer 3, should it ever happen. Keep up the fantastic work!
Awesome! Glad you liked the book!
Kinda needs a third book. Too many sequel hooks. XD
That and *ahem* Sam maybe using “Enhance” on himself so he can “charge” more than one woman at a time.
There were several misspellings in the book as I read it, apologies for not remembering/writing them all down. The one that stood out to me the most was when he was making his crane, and he was longing for a vice grip.
Now, that’s entirely appropriate given the amount of sex going on here, but the tool to hold stuff steady is generally called a vise or a vise grip.
Fixed. I’ll release an updated version in a few weeks once I get more feedback.
This is really quite good.
Thanks very much!
I’ve now finished it, and I enjoyed it immensely! However, the future of Sam’s story is starting to have some problems, imo. He’s set up as the most important person in this tribe of 14 super powered people, but he isn’t essential for combat. He now has 3 definitely better at combat than him, and 2-3 more equally as good. So from here, it makes less and less sense for him to leave the base camp for extended periods (that is, other than his ego- which is definitely something he’ll have to contend with, eventually). I expect some of these women to point that out, and stop him from going on at least one big excursion.
But then the problem is that, narratively, he’s the POV character, and how do you tell that story when he isn’t involved?
He’s set up as the most tactically intelligent, and emotionally intelligent person in the tribe so far, and that’s kinda just male fantasy fulfillment at this point, and less realistic the more tribe members that surround him, female or not. I think it’s time for him to take a fall in one of those strengths. Didn’t Mareth admit one of her strengths as a leader was her ability to help with intra tribe conflicts?
Now, I really did enjoy this book, and I love the attention paid to the female characters, with their different cultural backgrounds and obsessions. It really makes them three dimensional, and I’m absolutely digging it.
That’s definitely some good stuff to think about for the next book, especially coming up with excuses for him to spearhead outings. That said, it might be interesting to finally explore some base building, but the reason I had them find relatively secure accomodations early on is that I didn’t want to retread a lot of the stuff in the original series. Still, he’s an engineer… there should be some construction projects.
Just so you know, I opened TE2 from my Books folder in my Downloaded PDF foder, simply by clicking the file and clicking the Open with Kindle option in W11.
I’m surprised at the number of PDF downloads. I assumed most people would grab one of the eBook formats and read it on their phone if they didn’t have a dedicated e-reader like a kindle, since that method allows you to adjust the font and screen colors/contrast to your liking, but the PDF downloads are about 2/3 of the mobi and epup versions combined.
I read it on the tabletop computer, not on my phone. have no desire to read it on a tablet, either, just FYI.
Just Finished reading yesterday, and it was very much enjoyable. Loved the creativity of the various girls and their base powers and enhanced powers. Final battle was epic with a pretty good balance of taunting and ass kicking. I’m looking forward to book 3
DaveB, you mentioned that you didn’t like how Sam wasn’t getting a lot of engineering done, I personally disagree. In most engineering theme games, you have a few things to do before mass building of infrastructure can begin. Book 1 focused on the start as Sam arrives in the world, gains the initial resources and the starting base location, and learns about the threats of the world, both environmental and social. Book 2 focused on early Eco as he doubled his tribe’s size and moved to a more profitable location, followed by an early raid that doubled his clan again along with a massive boost to food stores. Now with more people and resources, he now has the ability to get some more sturdy structures to fill out their new home during book 3. As far as how much he can do with engineering, he is limited by a few factors. The first was population, there is only so much anyone can do and with more people, the more that can be done. Second is time, Sam has been on this world for 1 week, his Eye-Q has a ten second duration with an hour long cooldown, even if he was on top of the timing, with optimal amount of sleep, he would have 112 uses, but he did spend a good amount of time injured, exhausted, and fighting. Also, he spent a few of those enhancements on the women of his tribe and enhanced a few tools multiple times or used multiple enhancements for a single tool. Third is availability to processed materials. He has had to use a good number of his enhancements just to make the parts of a finished product. Now with more people, he can focus on getting more workstations built up to increase the creation of parts to build even more structures/machines. All and all, he is living every day by the hour, and is making relatively great progress despite the threats and is probably at a higher tech tier than the marauders already.
Theory time(for this I would like to hear what my fellow readers have to say and DaveB can put some non spoiler responses).
Taking down Kurgast: The limitations that I’ve noticed that Kurgast has is that he needs both people and proximity. Taking some inspiration from Ghost Recon: Wildlands, Sam would need to break the Marauders apart in a non suspicious manner. With a good number of their head of security out of the way, a team including Urthlu and Voss could sneak into the marauder’s base and sow discord among the warriors allowing Urthlu to fly all of the slaves out and into safety while the marauders are to busy beating each other up. This would be followed by harassing the scouting parties to further break their morale. Eventually, with no one left to keep him alive, Kurgast will either starve himself out, get killed by someone who isn’t afraid of a loner, or eaten by a Dino.
Pilip: I think a good enhanced ability for Pilip would be heatwave, allowing her to absorb a lot of heat and send it out violently enough to catch things on fire would be a good offensive option
Draciene: Give her Something Like Gama to change how bright/dark an area would be is good for utility, but for an attack option, I think something like focus to allow her to concentrate her light into a range attack.
I think the main question that needs to be asked when it comes to Kurgast, is – do abilities work if your eye-Q is destroyed? Zolie’s example seems to say no. Innate abilities that didn’t require the eye-Q to begin with might not count, but can they still level up and gain more power? If destroying the eye-Q disables abilities, and destroying his eye-Q wouldn’t also destroy his tribes eye-Q’s, we have a potential solution. If not though, they’d probably just have to starve him. Mareth didn’t say she gets thirsty, hungry, or sleepy when Kurgast does, so those sensations are probably exempted.
All of your other ideas make sense.
With such a large tribe though, there isn’t enough time in the day for him to develop romantic entanglements with all of them, and a lot of them will want to jump for the tactical intimacy just because of how useful it is, feelings be damned. I’m very much interested in those kinds of questions being asked, and how he’ll emotionally deal with it.
There was another litrpg book I read, “Supers: Ex heroes” where after our protagonist started developing his harem, he had some second thoughts about how much sex he was having, and his own self worth. Was he sleeping with women only to grow his power? And the way one of the women seemed to treat him as an object seemed it could easily go into sexual abuse.
If the author was any better, I would have kept reading because I’d love to explore that from a male perspective, but I dropped the series after the first book because I had no trust that the author would actually deal with it at all. I was pretty sure he’d just sweep it under the rug and we’d never see the protagonist deal with those issues.
I do trust Dave to actually address those types of issues once the main character gets out of fight or die mode and gets into a comfortable routine of base building. Because of the genre, he’d probably have to simplify that conversation a lot, but it would be interesting nonetheless. Sam’s set himself up for success by developing good relationships based on clear communication before he’s been intimate with a good 3-4 women, so at least he has someone he’d trust to talk to about any emotional hangups he has. – if his pride allows that. All those women are kinda just letting him be the adult right now, because he’s volunteered for the job, but I think he eventually has to crack a little. There’s a lot of pressure on him, and when he does finally crack, one of them should realize it and help with that some of that burden.
From one erotica author to another, i read both of your Tamer novels over about three days and loved them both! I really can’t wait for the next one!
I’ve just finished.
You have improved your writing skill to Level 2. :-D
The pacing was very fast. Almost rushed. It seemed like every time something happened of any importance Sam was picking up another, or several more, members of his harem.
Thanks for the afterword explaining “crudamvore.” I looked it up when I read it and couldn’t find any dictionary meaning, and so I was left feeling like you’d just horribly typoed some word. Until I hit the afterword. My general feeling about this has two points: Carnivore would have explained what you wanted to say perfectly well, and you’re not Shakespeare.
I also ran into a couple other words that I didn’t know (aside from many of the dinosaur and extinct mammal names), I’ll try to see if I can find them:
“My shoulders ached sympathetically at the self-inflicted strappado position as her
hands clumsily quested for a basket behind her.”
I looked up ‘strappado,’ expecting it to find it to be some kind of BDSM/rope binding/shibari reference. So I learned that it is an ancient torture technique, and it’s always nice to learn something new. But unless the word has been co-opted by the BDSM crowd I’m not sure you’ve used it in the right context. I suspect that many people might, like me, simply not know what the word means, and if I’m right than using an obscure word is probably a poor choice instead of describing how the position looked using a few more, but also more common, words.
That’s the only one I can find quickly enough for this post, but there were a couple others.
Other places I kind of stumbled were where you used an idiom I was unfamiliar with instead of just describing what the character was doing.
“Voss was under the waterfall, giving herself a quick whore bath, so I encouraged her to finish up quickly and head to the rope.”
I’d hope that an editor would suggest that you just said she was doing a quick wash off instead, but maybe that’s just me. The character isn’t a whore, and the idiom doesn’t really match the action either since she isn’t just wiping down with a damp washcloth or one of those wipes you get with ribs or other finger foods, so it just reads awkwardly. And I’ve carried those wipes with me camping/hunting/fishing/hiking probably since before you were born, and never once heard anyone refer to using them as a “whore bath,” but again maybe that’s just me.
“It was edible, but the twice-cooked meat was bordering on something a thief might equip to maintain their stealth bonus, so we talked about ways of drying and preserving meat while we ate. ”
I played D&D for decades, and still couldn’t figure out what you were trying to say the meat was bordering on. Leather comes to mind, since it is in the context of food, but you don’t equip a piece of leather or even leather armor in order to “maintain [a] stealth bonus.” Sure, you don’t equip plate mail since that carries a penalty, but that’s not what you’re saying here even if that’s what you’re trying to say. So yeah, another awkward sentence that just could have been phrased more simply to get whatever meaning you were intending across to the reader.
“By the time I finally finished cutting the second cam from the sapling, my arm was burning like someone’s giving their boyfriend a handjob while he was loaded with antidepressants.”
I’ve heard that antidepressants can negatively impact libido, so it wasn’t too hard to figure out what you were trying to say. My question would be why? Why force in this somewhat strange reference to a potential side effect of a medicine that not all readers can be sure to have any experience with or knowledge of? Why not just say that his arm was burning like someone who had been working a primitive saw for a couple hours, since that’s exactly what he’d been doing? And not even that, really. Just say his arm was burning after the long workout, the readers will know why.
There were a few more of these that I don’t recall well enough to find a quote quickly. So I’ll just say that you seem to be trying to be just way too clever for your own good. There’s nothing at all wrong with just saying what you want to say instead of making an awkward or torturous attempt at a pseudo-pop culture reference or weird metaphor. They can be fun, but if they are as forced as these seem to be it doesn’t add anything of value to your story and instead detracts from the narrative flow.
Glad you liked the book!
Strappado was the easiest way for me to describe how Nira’s arms were positioned. Yes, the position has been entirely co-opted by the BDSM community, and maybe it says too much about me that I already knew what the word meant.
I did have one editor flag the whore bath, thinking the association with Voss was distracting, but the term is descriptive of a kind of quick wipedown, and isn’t meant to imply anything about the bather. I understand the reasoning behind wanting to change it to just say “she was giving herself a quick wipedown” but I… didn’t. Author’s prerogative.
The twice cooked meat = leather armor metaphor is admittedly a little strained the way I put it. But I would argue that leather being used to maintain a stealth bonus is perfectly fine. Thieves get bonuses from dexterity and skills and class stuff depending on the game system, but in almost every game, you lose some or all of those bonuses in metal armor. Therefore, you equip leather to keep all your bonuses.
I agree that the anti-depressant handjob is my most tortured metaphor. I maybe should have saved it for a female narrator talking about doing that to her boyfriend to make the sentence flow better (I didn’t want to make it ambiguous if Sam had ever doled out handjobs) but I got enamored with the humor. Why not say “my arm was burning like I’d been sawing at a tree branch with a primitive saw for thirty minutes straight”? Cause I thought it was funnier the other way. And honestly I don’t think there’s anything wrong with making the especially curious do a little googling or ask their friends an awkward question. :D
But you’re right, a straightforward metaphor/simile makes for a better reading experience. It’s something to work on.
I’ll add one thing to consider and then let this go, because you clearly feel that your choices were all perfectly justified and defensible.
When you use these weird references and metaphors, they aren’t coming from you. I mean, obviously you’re the one who is writing them into your story. But to the reader they are coming from the character who uses them.
All of these examples were from the point of view of Sam. You give a character knowledge and experience when you use references to things from their point of view. When Sam pulls out the name of every dinosaur and extinct mammal they run across, the readers must accept that Sam is a freaking expert on dinosaurs and extinct mammals. Sam knows how to knap flint into a serviceable blade. Sam is familiar with many martial weapons, including bladed weapons from across many cultures and bows. Sam is an engineer, which typically involves some area of specialization such as chemical, civil, electrical, and mechanical. Sam appears to be a mechanical engineer, kind of, but I would wager large sums of money that a poll of 100 random mechanical engineers would find zero who claimed they could make a compound bow without access to a computer or a reference library, no matter how well equipped their modern shop might be.
Sam is now known to be familiar with role playing games.
Sam is now known to be familiar with BDSM in-speak and rope typing positions.
These are bits of knowledge that the readers need to add to their understanding of Sam, who he is and what he knows and does.
And most importantly, Sam is the one who, looking over at the woman who he’s just had sex with for the first time, who was a virgin before she was raped multiple times and turned into a work and sex slave by the first man to meet her in your story setting, it is Sam who looks at Voss and thinks to himself “Look at that, she’s giving herself a whore bath.”
And that says something about Sam’s character that you appear to have put a lot of prior effort into presenting in the exact opposite way. You say above that it “isn’t meant to imply anything about the bather,” but I call bullshit on that. The things you think about someone definitely do carry the implications of the words you choose, and comparing your new lover’s actions to anything a whore does is an unkind comparison at best, but as a thought that Sam isn’t sharing with Voss it tells the reader what Sam thinks about Voss. Have Sam say aloud to Voss “So, did that whore bath freshen you up?” and then tell me how you think Voss might believe Sam thinks of her now that she has had sex with him for the first time.
And that’s where I’ll leave it.
On the one hand, I disagree with you on the basis that if you ask someone if they had a nice cat nap, there is no implication that they are a cat, (outside of humorous translator shenanigans.) It’s simply descriptive of the type of nap. On the other hand, I see where the less common term “whore bath” is going to throw people, and a few have said as much, especially in the ramp-up to their first time together. I’m doing a new round of edits now that I’ve gotten more feedback, so I’ll probably change that to just say “a quick wipedown” because it’s obviously distracting to some. I don’t really have any skin in the game one way or the other, and digging my heels in feels reflexively belligerent. God help me if I turn into some shitty auteur who’s all “How dare you question my perfect prose!?” No, it’s fucking pulp fiction, it’s supposed to be fun and entertaining.
The topic of using Xerxa’s enhanced ability to regenerate Zolie’s eye and fix her Eye-Q ability and translator needs to be brought up. It is untapped potential that seems to have been overlooked. If it is even possible for Xerxa’s power to work on an injury that old. Though in my experience that kind of wound would still be healing and that should be able to be fixed.
That is of course if she can Rewind a wound she has already likely used Heal on.
I missed this on release day by a couple of weeks but after wholly enjoying it in one weekend I can honestly say it’s the Empire Strikes Back to the first book’s A New Hope. It was better in every possible way, and that was already tough. Voss development and “ultra skill” was great, Mareth is all around enjoyable and Warsyl feels like a sexy antihero.
I’m very down for a third book if you’re up to (I’d really like to see character development for Warsyl and Urthlu) but even if it doesn’t happen let me say this: IMO your writing is excellent and I’d encourage you to write a story of your own making, provided it doesn’t turn into a burden along with the comic that is. Whatever the case, thank you for the great time.
Awesome! Thanks for the feedback.
Marvellous
thoroughly enjoyed it
keep going
Enjoyed this a good bit. Is the fresh breath stuff something from the original Tamer? I’ve never read it, and I’m curious if it ever gets explained there or if it’s just an oddity Dave is poking fun at
The oral hygiene stuff is just me having fun with the genre. I’ve read or listened to probably 200 books where someone gets isekai’d to the time before toothpaste, (or just lives in ye old times) and it has NEVER once come up.
I was watching some period piece movie… actually I think it might have been The Princess Bride, and they make a big deal about how epic their kiss was at the end of the movie, and it occurred to me that neither one of them would have ever flossed. At best they could have chewed on some mint leaves or gargled with brandy or something, but I just assumed that their mouths at that moment probably tasted like the inside of a dumpster on a hot August day. It’s kind of ruined every kissing scene in every movie that takes place in “the old times,” by which I mean, the time before I think someone invented toothbrushes. I’ve never looked it up but I assume it was sometime in the late 1800’s.
So to answer your question, no, there’s no mention of oral hygiene in the OG Tamer books, but it doesn’t stop me from thinking about the fact that no one has brushed their teeth since arriving on that world. Maybe one book in 20 will bring up periods, and one in 100 will mention women shaving their legs or armpits. It seems everyone has just agreed to ignore certain things about how gross humans really are.
Personally, I’d love to read a book where a guy gets isekai’d to some olden time world, walks up to the gates of a city, catches one whiff of the end result of a total lack of plumbing, and nopes out. “Guess I’m going to go live in the woods. Later!”
Funnily enough that is actually on of the things coming up in a book I am writing. Creating primitive toothpaste is going to swiftly become a priority for my protagonist.
I’m sure Kacerie would take care of toothpaste if it wasn’t mentioned. She was really excited about mint plants, I think? Also, I know at least one book I read had some kind of small stone or something they put in their mouth instead of toothpaste and the main character thought that was oddly efficient for a pre-industrial society.
Side note, but it is weird how many times the word “toothpaste” comes up when you search your entire Kindle library for it.
Dental cleaning can be done via a number of means that don’t involve toothpaste. See: https://www.wayneoralsurgery.com/blog/what-was-dental-health-like-in-the-middle-ages/
Note that sugar, especially refined sugar, is rare in pre-industrial society. I’ve also heard that scrubbing your teeth with a twig of some fibrous bush is effective in removing plaque. (Just make sure it’s not poison oak!)
Funnily enough, Romans had toothbrushes in the first century AD. And probably before, but we don’t know before. I wouldn’t like them much though; they were made out of twigs, with tips pounded into a fibrous excuse for bristles.
I’m sure they did a better job than I immediately imagine, because what I immediately imagine would probably give me splinters if I tried to use it.
I don’t know for sure that toothbrushes have ever not been available. I mean, the pounding-the-end-of-a-twig-with-a-rock thing is literal stone age technology, and we have no idea how far back it goes. And then after about the tenth century there were regular cleaning brushes. I can’t imagine anybody who had little brushes for cleaning the insides of bottles and jars not using them, if anybody had the idea, to clean the inside of mouths.
Loved reading this one at least as much as the first:p Feel like Sam’s dick is gonna fall off if any more ladies show up though.
Just read both stories and there were very well written and definitely worth the read
This happened several places in the manuscript.
Horses have reins. You rein them in when you want them to go slower.
Kings and Queens have reigns. Their reign ends when they are deceased or deposed.
I’m pretty sure that every single time in this manuscript that you used the word reign, you meant rein instead.
I mean, check the instances to be sure I’m right, but it looks like global search-and-replace to me.
Heh, oops. I’ll fix that with this new revision I’m working on.
” I’ll eventually release updated versions once typo feedback slows and I’m sure most everything’s been found.”
Ha ha ha ha ha. There’s always one more. Trust me.
Just finished both of your books, and I have to say I was quite impressed!
I felt that they were easily on par with dozens of other Kindle Unlimited authors I read on a regular basis that make their living writing stories much like these. I would even go as far as to say that I was hard pressed to tell the difference between your writing and that of Michael Scott Earl. I used to read him all the time when he was still on Kindle Unlimited. I admit, I would read MSE more if it didn’t cost $10 a book now, since he has to handle his own distribution, especially since he is so prolific. I’d be broke in short order.
And I must commend whoever did your copy editing. There were very few typos that I saw, and really none that broke suspension of disbelief. Plot holes were minor, really. Characters are a little more OP than those done by MSE, but that’s kind of the trope to begin with, so I really can’t fault that.
Glad you enjoyed it. I’m working on a new revision to hopefully clear up the majority of the remainder of the typos and one minor continuity inconsistency that no one seems to have caught yet anyway.
As for Sam being OP… kind of? But every time I think that, I remind myself he’s never going to have an army of 30 dinosaurs, so… 6 of one, half dozen of the other?
Nice series. Characters are engaging. Dude is not boring. However, nira even though she is a sweet girl, was not a good choice for the first girl to meet. More like 4th. Maybe it was personal pref for the author. Mareth, xerska, voss all would have been better to meet first. Not into weird fish head girls. Other than that good effort.
Glad you liked it. For the record, Nira doesn’t look like a fish, she’s just bald and has crocodile eyes. I mean, you can see her on the cover of the first book, but I know how it is when you get an image stuck in your head when reading something.
The picture on the cover actually did turn me off from the start. Read it anyway because the characters had charm.
Looking forward to 3rd book.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/michaelscottearle/tamer-king-of-dinosaurs-book-8-ebook-print-and-audio/description
FYI: The new Tamer from MSE is on KickStarter
I only recently got a chance to sit down with this book, and I confess to having binged 1 and two from start to finish! You have a real talent for writing, and no offense to Earle and the OG series I like your male protagonist better.
I can’t wait for the next one, which I do not mind admitting, hope to see some more sex scenes, and one thing I would dearly love to see is a gallery of the characters in your series. Particularly the women. :)
Slowly working on the gallery. :)
Alright! Just finished book 2 and absolutely love it. I read Dino Tamer 1 and 2 before they dropped off kindle but they didn’t hook me like this. I would love to see a third book (fourth even, but let’s call that phase one B) and read more about these great creative characters. Since I can’t provide you any direct money for the novel, let’s call my signing up for your Patreon my way of supporting you for book three. Also add my voice in for images of the rest of the cast we haven’t seen yet.
Thanks Dave for a renewed interest in reading Tamer and getting the ball rolling on my own writing. I can’t wait to see what you come up with next.
I think a third book would probably wrap things up nicely. Finish the current threat off, get to know the new tribe members, and could always be continued later if desired.
Awesome! I think I might have a third book in me, but we’ll see what happens. I maybe should look into writing something I can actually sell, but I’m kind of attached to Sam and the crew so who knows.
Looks Like Bitly has tagged the links for this and the previous book for blocking. Not sure why.
I’ve removed the bit.ly links for now. Not sure what’s going on with them. I just had them so I had some idea of download counts.
so.. i did not ‘catch on’ about the books,, until i looked at DA… an O.M.G. :)
but,, loved em both,, an would love more..
since i don’t buy online.. do you goto con’s.??
Glad you liked them. I used to go to Akon pretty regularly… like for 20 years consecutively, but I haven’t been in a few years. Never went to an out of town con though.