Grrl Power #791 – This. Is. Puberty!
There’s more to being a tweenage succubus than Tamatha’s gotten to, but you know, I can only fit so much on one page.
Having never been a young girl, I’m operating under the impression that something goes ‘ping’ one day and all of a sudden it’s boys boys boys 24/7.*
Okay, not really, but everyone has that moment where they suddenly notice the cover of some magazine or a singer or an actor or actress and they’re way more interesting to look at than they used to be. I say that, but I don’t recall a specific instance myself. I grew up on comics (big shock I know) and I guess I just noticed Rogue looking better and better in that green and yellow outfit with the little bolero jacket? Yeah, that was good stuff.
*(Or girls girls girls, depending on how that particular bit is flipped.)
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The most important take away here is that now, in cannon, we know that Ben 10, Kim Possible, Johnny Test, and Star vs. the Forces of evil are real in the Grrl Power Universe. Which by connection means that Dabbler could be working with Dexter from Dexter’s Lab at some point.
Oh good lords, that would be quite the thing. I don’t remember Dexter’s Lab getting connected to any of those shows though? or any other crossovers? though, I didn’t watch Johnny Test or Star much…
It’s ok, none of those shows interacted.
To my knowlege at least… There _may_ have been a cameo or two? Idk
In the fan made (so not precisely canon) Double Rainboom, Dexter’s Laboratory , Samurai Jack, Courage the Cowardly Dog, The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy, Johnny Bravo and The Power Puff Girls are shown to co-universal.
https://youtu.be/A6NWRKCfOc8?t=1040
Grim Tales from Down Below combines a bunch of different universes like Samurai Jack, Powerpuff Girls, Grim and Mandy, and others.
It also has Mandy and Grim married…
I remember a joke about ‘TV shows described badly’ and they made a ‘bad tv show description of The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy.
“Two kids, one of whom is mentally disabled, get a Jamaican skeleton to enjoy being enslaved.”
Nope that’s pretty spot on
Remember, Lilo and Stitch had crossover episodes with Kim Possible, The Proud Family, Recess, American Dragon meaning somewhere out there each of those characters exist.
Secret Saturdays had a brief interaction with Ben 10 once(and I’m sure the secret scientists are all on the list for recruitment by Archon). Technically all Cartoon Network shows have an connection through the commercial break points showing the city they all exist in, so stuff like Steven Universe, OK KO, etc. could be connected as well
there is a confirmed cartoon network multiverse
Kim Possible and Star VS are Disney properties, Ben 10, Johnny Test, and Dexter’s Lab are all Cartoon Network and thus by extension Warner Brothers, one of the few big names still not owned by Disney.
Dexter’s Lab crossed over with a lot of the CN stuff of the day through indirect cameos, Ben 10 crossed over with at least 1 other show (but it was around a decade, give or take, after Dexter), I don’t recall Johnny Test ever crossing over with anything, but it certainly would have been well within the premise and theme of the show for there to have been crossovers. All in all, it is certainly possible that through weird crossover connections that one could argue that those three shows exist in the same universe.
On the Disney side of things, I don’t recall Kim Possible or Star VS ever crossing over with anything, but I could easily be wrong, Star VS has the portal scissors mechanic that would make crossing over with other properties easy, and we know that Disney tends to have a lot of crossovers especially around the holidays or after purchasing a major property, like marvel or star wars.
So, depending on whether or not those two shows have crossed over with anything, it could be possible to track crossovers all the way to Who Framed Roger Rabbit, which bridges Disney and Warner Brothers animation, which could connect all of these properties. However, based on my personal recollection of each of these specific shows, I don’t think this would be possible.
Kim Possible had a crossover with Lilo & Stitch while Ben 10 had a crossover with Generator Rex.
On that note, Recess had a crossover with Lilo & Stitch too while Johnny Bravo had a crossover with Scooby Doo.
American Dragon jack Long and Proud Family also had crossovers with Lilo & Stitch
You could check on the Tommy Westphall Universe, possibly. With all the crossovers that happen in TV, it’s generally easier to list the ones that AREN’T linked in some way.
My favourite cross over is Detective Munch and X-Files. It’s canon too. Suck on that, Marvel!
They crossed over in Bleedmans work, before it went to shit. But not in their actual shows, no.
That or it was a cosplay day at the school.
+1 this
Meh, not necessarily. All we know at this point is that Arc-Earth has a version of Ron Stoppable, Ben Tennyson, Johnny Test, and What’s-his-Name. But of course they may be very different people from the ones we’re familiar with.
This Ron may not even know a Kim Possible.
And he doesn’t even have a naked mole-rat in his pocket
Does that mean he’s not happy to see us?
Guest spots do not necessarily reflect canon. Especially in someone’s imagination of someone else’s dialog.
This, exactly.
According to Dwayne McDuffie’s crossover theory, even full scale crossovers may not mean all that much. Guest appearances mean nothing.
But speculation is fun.
Marco Diaz, red belt in karate (because his sensei had not learned from the video “how to karate volume 8”)
What it means is that *fictional* versions of these characters exist.
Remember, this is Sydney imagining what Tamatha is describing. So those are Sydney’s idea of a bunch of hot boys… Ron, Ben, and the rest. I mean, honestly, I can see it. If I was animated, I’d probably be lusting after Kim, Gwen, and Star, so it’s fair.
Probably safe to say that for the sake of not getting his ass sued off, DaveB is gonna state that these are normal high school boys that coordinated their halloween costumes. XD
dabbler working with dexter, and everyone else asking why dabs looks like a boy.
I mean….it could just be Halloween and all those guys are in costume.
Kim Possible is connected to Lilo and Stitch, which is connected to Recess, American Dragon Jake Long, and Proud Family.Ben 10 has Generator Rex, and I’m not sure about the other two.
Unless this is Sydney’s imagination for what this little succubus would call a cute boy.
Canon with one N means in-universe. Cannon with two N’s is the thing that fires cannonballs.
Why is it “audits” a class? Is this some weird American expression? Like how the English say you “read” a subject?
To audit a class is to take the class just to learn the material rather than for accreditation towards a degree or a certificate.
At universities, it is common to let non-immatriculated people (outsiders, essentially), or people from different branches of the same university, listen to lectures and sit in on classes, assuming there’s room for them. Part of university tradition, this is called “auditing”. Because you’re not formally a student, you can’t pass exams or get degrees, but it is possible to get a quite decent education this way (and a lot of people have, throughout history).
Tamatha, being a youngster, is not of university age yet — but there’s nothing to stop her from attending lectures at the (hypothetical) “He-Man U”, in this way.
Well, in the United States most people auditing courses are insiders.
Many private universities don’t even offer audits.
I believe MIT has almost every class available online for free.
Indeed they do. That is how I’m currently learning calculus.
Before universities even pondered the possibility of teaching women this was how some women managed to get an education. Sitting outside the classroom in some cases because women were not allowed in the room with the male students and the male teacher.
It was considered a waste of money to educate a woman past a high school level, where she would of course be taking home economics so she can eventually run a household while her husband makes a living.
Makes you wonder how the human race made it through those centuries.
They put the most highly skilled, super intelligent, amazing part of the species in charge of the most important things ever: Home and The Future. Unfortunately, cultures made it mandatory and and that eventually didn’t sit well with the mentally stronger sex so men will soon all be enslaved. Then of course all of humanity will be enslaved when the same thing happens with the A.I./android revolution a bit further down the line. All the “U.F.O.” and other strange supernatural kidnapping incidents are the highly evolved future super beings feeling kind of bad about having to take us and our natural progression out of play on their ascension so they are traveling back in time for information and samples to bring us back.
Because everybody deserves a second chance in such a large universe.
Good times.
You just listen in, but do no work.
Always figured it was to make sure the teacher was actually teaching, and the students were at least paying attention (hard to tell if they were actually learning anything)
Having audited a few classes, I can say that you do do the work. I mean, if you just sit there you will learn something I suppose, but if you don’t do the coursework and take the exams it won’t be much.
There is no way the cute girl with dark skin and hot pink hair doesn’t have boys walking into crap trying to check her out.
She’s too busy walking into doors herself to notice that.
And THAT right there is the tragedy that fuels tweenaged angst.
It’s just question of time before she will walk into boy who wouldn’t mind at all.
Depends on they see her through the Veil. We can see how she really looks, but due to the Veil she could look like the plainest, most uninteresting wallflower of a girl possible to them so isn’t even registering on their Girldar.
The only person presently who knows how she’s perceived via the Veil’s disguising her as normal is DaveB.
Unlikely. Succubi gotta eat after all. If the veil made them look unattractive…
Then why isn’t she already beating guys and girls off with a stick?
Also she can feed even if she doesn’t look attractive due to the Veil, she’s doing it right now in the nightclub by absorbing the ambient tantric energy around her.
I’d be surprised if the Veil does more work than it needs to. For paras who look just like humans with small extra bits, it probably just edits out the bits. The examples we’ve seen of what the Veil shows normies have mostly focused on beings who could only be mistaken for human from a football field away in heavy fog.
I’m sorry.. is that a fight or is that sex in the background?
Probably dancing.
The is the movie “300”.
It is about Sparta, and has lots of buff, well oiled, loin clothed men on screen. Google ”300 movie trailer” for a video reference.
Shirtless men with abs. Sydney’s weakness goes back to her tweenage years.
Which makes me wonder exactly how old is Sydney at the start of comic-assuming it starts the same year as it started literally-2010? Barely 3 years earlier WAS 300.
the background of Sydney talking is supposed to be dancing yeah. they at a club
nope its from the movie 300 and or spartcus movie
its either 300 or Spartacus
Which panel are you talking about? The top three panels are at a night club — not sure about that black shadow in the third panel. The next three panels — 4,5 and 6 — there is a movie scene featuring Spartan warrior with rippling abs: Sydney is lost to normal men forever. Panel 7, and there’s that black shadow again — still can’t tell what it is or what it’s doing. Panel 8 is a whole other story but there’s no fighting going on there.
I hate that we can’t edit posts here because someone will probably have answered it all by the time I post this.
wow, nobody went for the THIS IS SPARTAAA low hanging fruit
We’ll have to assume that The Veil works wonders for unusual features.
I get the feeling Sydney and Tamatha have some shared traits.
not if you are asexual, so no, not everyone. lol
To be fair, being Ace is kind of a rarity to be honest. Being straight, gay, or bi statistically is more probable so it’s not something to get pedantic about.
DAVE! I recommend you to check out O Maidens in your Savage Season. It’s manga & anime (in HIDIVE) about high school girls going through puberty and awakening to their sexual desires. Yeah, let’s go with that. Obviously it’s an exaggeration on the issue (I hope it is), at least compared to normal humans. Compared to succubus though, maybe not so much? Good anyway and I got some laughs out of it.
Ah, a fellow fan. That’s my AOTY for sure. A shame so few people watched it. It really speaks to the part of me that is disappointed that I never had the opportunity to be a teenage girl.
Question: Tamatha seems straight (only mentions boys), but the other succubi we have seen seems like they are bi or at least like to tease and turn on women every bit as much as men. Do succubi have sexual orientations comparable to humans? Is there a default orientation like in humans where something like 90 % are straight?
Tammy is biromantic at the very least. But maybe succubi are more instinctively attracted to men due to mysterious tantric energy reasons?
How do you figure that? I don’t remember her showing attraction towards the same sex anywhere. Seems straight to me, at the moment.
YukiAkuma has a special advantage when it comes to knowing things about Tamatha, because they’re the one who created the character. There’s a level of Patreon funding where you can have your OC cameo in the comic. If you remember financial advisor Aurelius Shrapnel, he was another such cameo.
speaking of being a cameo/guest appearance.
Is there a comic, story, or other works you’ve used this character in before this guest appearance? It would be interesting to read up on their history/adventures in their own universe.
Maybe for succubi it’s like your palate, Kids only seem to want tendies and burgers. As you get older your tastes mature. Perhaps succubi start out completely straight and then their interests very with age.
…. I still like tendies and burgers.
Okay now I want to go to Wendy’s and get some spicy nuggets and a cheeseburger. At almost 4am.
I would say that succubi have sexual orientation, but also much higher sex drive than humans. When human is 90% into boys and 10% into girls, she’s barely interested enough to try kissing one girl, however multiply it by 100 and she’s more into girls than most straight human boys … BUT still mostly into guys.
Perhaps being hetero is the succubus equivalent of being gluten intolerant.
Be extremely careful here, Dave.
You gotta think about what your enemies are thinking, not just yourself.
Right now you already have an underage sex beast in a bar. Be real careful.
Ah, threats. You should be extremely careful yourself. Regular people like us are tired of your self-censoring bullshit.
I don’t really read that as a threat.
I read it as a legitimate warning, not a threat.
Remember that legitimate writers such as Judy Blume or Mark Twain, get censored all the time.
Did NOT mean to imply that DaveB is not a legitimate writer. Sorry. I just phrased it badly.
The moment censorship overrides the spirit of free expression, we all will have lost a critical part of our culture. “Warnings” such as these are threats in the form of a helpful suggestion. Go look at Chinese news for a complete class in the art of subtle deception.
Then stop reading it, if don’t like it.
You do realize this is all fiction? Lolita was a work of fiction and no one got upset until the “oh so righteous” people threw a fit. There are still states that allow marriages at 14. Do ypu think the groom waits 4 years till she’s legal? Get a grip did you think a comic that never shows a nipple would suddenly show underage sex in full color and anatomically correct action. Go back to your victorian cave.
Well, that was incoherent.
Made perfect sense to me. Perhaps English is not your native tongue?
No. There isn’t any statutory rape whatsoever in marriages because the purpose of those laws is to insure that there is ongoing stability for the underage partner which the marriage contract supplies. In a marriage age of consent with the spouse isn’t a legal issue. Marriage below the nominal age of consent requires both the consent of the underage person’s guardian and the permission of a judge. It will also require a physician’ approval so obviously pedophilia isn’t going to get the consent of a judge.
In summary, statutory rape is never an issue since a judge has certified that the underaged partner is competent to give consent to the other party in the marriage contract, and actual pedophilia will never get past a judge (who will know for certain once he sees the physician’s report.
I take it you two haven’t actually personally known many people in marriages where one or both of the partners was underage. I have known a fair number.
Perhaps Pander will step in and restate all this stuff in babbel, i mean legalese.
Who said anything about statutory rape?
All Gamesman mentioned was ‘underage sex’ and ‘marriages at 14’ and how certain people (not even remotely involved) have a problem with something that doesn’t concern them
What they typed was perfectly coherent, maybe you meant something else, hence Opus‘s comment about English not being you native tongue
Under age sex isn’t generally prosecutable in most states when both parties are minors.
When one party is under the age considered able to lawfully consent to sex and the other is not, that is the definition of statutory rape.
Did you not comprehend Gamesman’s phrase “do you think the groom waits four years till she’s legal?
If they were both underage there’s nothing prosecutable.
And my point was that after they are married with a judge’s permission there’s nothing prosecutable either. I have known people in marriages like that.
Well you seemed to have missed the main point. Humans reach sexual maturity long before they become legally adult. There has always been some form of sex between generations. The legality aside humans are sexual beings and will have sex (mostly). The laws are a combination of control and the prevailing moral ideals. This is why said laws vary widely in different places. BTW I may ramble a bit but between my intellect and my ADD I generally make my point.
No point was missed.
Statutory rape laws are not based on sexual maturity.
Laws against pedophilia are based on sexual maturity, although pedophilia would also be statutory rape.
Statutory rape laws are based upon economic independence, emotional maturity, and competence in making decisions. If a person is not yet competent enough to understand the potential consequences of sex, and is not economically independent enough to have the option of choosing to raise their child should pregnancy result or support themselves if needed or has not yet matured into the willpower to stop having sex for the orgasms when the attraction wears off (or turns into loathing) then they are deemed by law to be unable to give informed consent.
So statutory rape is rape not because the person’s body would be physically harmed but because by law the person is considered not mature enough to give informed consent.
What if the person is mature and raised their younger siblings while their addict parents were variously in jail or in a stupor, or something like that? The only provision for that is the underaged marriage approved by a judge.
Its an imperfect world.
You called?
Statutory rape differs from state to state, including the age of consent. In the US at least, it ranges from 16 to 18 depending on the state. There’s no age of consent that’s under 16, at least in the US. And a little more than half of the states (I believe 26 of them) also have a ‘close in age’ exemption (aka ‘Romeo and Juliet laws’). It was basically put in place so someone because the difference between an 18 year old and a 17 year old, or a 18 year old and a 16 year old, are usually not THAT significant, and those states did not want to be labelling a bunch of young people as sex offenders.
Basically, in ‘close in age’ states, if one person is over 18, and one person is under 18, but they’re both within a certain amount of years apart, then there is no statutory rape. In some states it can get rather odd – Delaware for example – it also depends on how young the under-age-of-consent person is. (Delaware = age of consent is 18, but if the minor is 16 or 17, they can consent with an older partner if the partner is under 30 and the minor is 16 or older – so a 29 year old can have sex with a 16 year old, but a 15 year old cannot have sex with a 19 year old.
There’s also a marriage exemption in some states – ie, if the partners are married (and the marriage is legal in that state, or certain other conditions apply – ifor example, an emancipated minor marries someone over the age of consent) then there’s an exception to statutory rape for that married partner.
As for if both partners are under the age of consent, and there’s no ‘close in age’ exception or other exemption? …. then both can be guilty of statutory rape, actually. So, for example, Romeo and Juliet (who were 15 and 14), if they lived in California (age of consent = 18 and no close-in-age exemption) would both be labelled as sexual offenders, guilty of statutory rape of the other.
But most states that have an 18 year consent age do have close-in-age exemptions. The only ones that don’t are California, North Dakota, Idaho, and Oregon. Most of the states that DONT have a close-in-age exemption tend to be where the age of consent is 16. Like…. all but 10 of them.
A tween, however, is going to be statutory rape in ANY state, plus also some additional crimes (like child molestation if the other partner is over a certain age (I think over 14).
Btw, marriage is a contract, and minors cannot enter into contracts without special circumstances.
Although the laws on marriage is different than the laws on statutory rape (plus there’s a marriage exemption to statutory rape, which I mentioned above).
However, rape can still happen during a marriage and is codified into law in every state as Spousal Rape (all but 11 of the states treat it the same as non-marital rape, and those 11 have a different law on the books specifically for marital rape). The only exception is Alaska, which still has it as a defense even though that state treats marital and non-marital rape under the same law. They just had a vote where the Sara Rasmussen (R) tried to remove the marriage defense from the books in House Bill 33, but it was voted down 20-17, mostly because of other representatives like Matt Claman (D), saying during the debates on the floor that there needs to be more specificity in the law for (this was the quoted rationale he used) “someone can get into trouble if they touch their spouse who’s afflicted with Alzheimer’s or dementia that make them go in and out of a solid mental state.”
No, it was a perfectly valid response to the warning/criticism which was made. The critique was that having an underage “sex monster” in a bar was a step down a potentially rocky road. The response that this comic is PG rated and that therefor the ‘danger’ was perhaps overstated was completely valid.
But ‘perhaps overstated’ doesn’t mean that the critique wasn’t a valid one. We’ve got a previously very sexually reserved Sydney engaging in sex outside her species, aliens engaging in sex outside their species (Cora’s crew, as an example), and again the previously sexually reserved Sydney angling for a harem/open relationship with Leon and Chrona. Just because the sex isn’t displayed on-panel doesn’t mean that the comic going “too far” (for whatever that might mean to the average reader) down that path isn’t something which should be carefully considered before committing to something which cannot be undone.
Yeah… those states are rightly viewed as supporting some seriously disgusting shit by the rest of the country- especially since those underaged spouses tend to be young brides marrying much older men, with a general agreement by all concerned that brides are expected to be a little nervous before the big day… a little prone to running away, screaming for help, begging them not to make her do this, but they quickly learn their place. It shouldn’t be a surprise that Ken McElroy lived in such a state:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_McElroy
Also, yes “Lolita” caused a lot of outrage – mostly because, just as with fans of “Watchmen” who thought that Rorschach was the hero and a good guy, a number of people misinterpreted “Lolita” as the story of forbidden love. As opposed to what it actually was – the story of a creepy pedophile who keeps an underaged girl as a sexual object, disregarding her thoughts and opinions to the point that he refrains from using her real name (he thinks of her as his Lolita… her actual name is Delores).
Rorschach was the hero, he just wasn’t a very nice person, kinda like Blatman, just without the billions of money
You are also forgetting that “Lolita” was a work of fiction, not an autobiography
Rorschach was more like the Punisher honestly.
Like said: a hero, butt not a very nice person (as in, they did things other people got squeamish about, even though it was the right thing to do)
Rorschach was based on The Question (originally, Alan Moore was going to use Charlton Comics characters, but DC pulled the permission to do that partway into development: Doctor Manhattan = Captain Atom, Rorschach = Question, Night Owl = Blue Beetle, Silk Spectre = Nightshade, The Comedian = Peacemaker).
That said, you could also see other parallels: Night Owl and Rorschach could be seen as splitting Batman’s genius, money and gadgets from his detective skills, trauma and obsessive drive to fight crime. The Comedian could be seen as The Joker with a government job (they both see existence as a joke we’re all too scared to laugh at). Doctor Manhattan could be seen as Superman with no Clark Kent option to keep him grounded to his humanity.
I don’t really think Rorschach is intended to be seen as a hero, though. He’s depicted as saying that Silhouette and her girlfriend deserved to die (for being lesbians — their death was a explicitly a hate crime, as well) and murdered a masochist who dressed up as a villain to bait heroes into beating him up (the guy didn’t actually commit crimes (except against fashion, possibly), all the heroes knew it and refused to go along, except Rorschach, who apparently threw him down an elevator shaft for the “crime” of being weird and kinky). Alan Moore also disdained the moral absolutist version of The Question that Steve Ditko had written in The Question’s Charlton incarnation.
There’s no doubt Rorschach thought he was the good guy, but I don’t think Moore wrote him as such.
Rorschach is more of a teleological ethics superhero, in contrast to Ozymandias’ utilitarian ethics superhero. Ozymandias wants the greatest good for the greatest number, regardless of the means necessary, while Rorschach has set out to do justice, (As he sees it, of course.) though the heavens fall.
They’re both monsters in their own way, they’re just different sorts of monsters.
I’ve got to agree with you Rorschach was more of an anti-hero because of his upbringing. In his very first appearance in the movie he says he won’t save immoral people. He is not a nice guy. He has no problem killing or maiming people he considers immoral. And see’s no hipocrisy in this. But he does think he is doing the right thing which makes him more dangerous. Nope not a hero.
No, Rorschach was not a hero. He was a vigilante who set himself up as judge, jury, and in many cases executioner. The fact that the readers have a view into things which happens to make his many crimes (breaking and entering, torture, mutilation, the list is a long one) slightly more sympathetic should in no way convince anyone that he is a hero. To the public at large and to law enforcement who do not have this more-omniscient (Rorschach is an unreliable narrator at best) view he is a terror to the community and someone who needs to be taken off the streets as soon as possible.
So why am I not surprised that our resident village idiot is firmly on the side of “murderous, vigilante criminal is a hero?” That’s a rhetorical question, Buttheadicus, as is usual no response from you will be of any value.
Wow, that’s some story. The guy had entire town including apparently law enforcement, prosecutors, judges, and any potential jurors so terrified that he literally got away with “dozens of felonies.” And was so hated for it that he was murdered in full view of ~35+ people, including his wife, by at least two different shooters and no one has been charged even decades later. I mean, that really doesn’t say much for law enforcement in that town, but at least they are consistent?
Anti-hero is pretty much a synonym for a v
Anti-hero is pretty much just a step beyond vigilante.
Generally it refers to a criminal who does enough good things that he helps more than harms.
You basically described Blatman, you realize that, right?
I don’t know who Blatman is, so I have no idea if I have described him or not.
But I would say that I have not described Batman, on the off chance that your idiot habit of using the wrong name for characters is in full retard mode.
But if you’d care to point me to the instance where Batman chained up a suspected child molester and murderer, set their home on fire (the crime of arson, which can only hope that innocent neighbors don’t also lose their homes and or lives), and left them with a hacksaw so that they had the option of cutting off their own hand rather than dying in the fire, I’ll be sure to review that evidence.
While I still haven’t made up a list of superhero novels to post (because I have bought so many series and I want to pare listing what I bought down to the best stuff, but maybe also list the really bad stuff in a sort of scan free samples of this and make sure you like it first list) but hear goes:
Sevan Paris’s “Heroes In Prose recently got two more books which I failed to get the notifications for which brings the series to twenty one…I guess novellas. They are short. But correspondingly cheap. Anyhow they are a pretty good read even though you will blow right through them quickly.
Ace invisibility powers, ACTIVATE! :D
(It’s okay. Nobody remembers that asexuals exist.)
Would an asexual succubus be the equivalent of an anorectic or bulimic human?
Probably closer to a lack of certain tastebuds. Asexual doesn’t mean you can’t appreciate “the view”, so to speak. It just doesn’t come with the neurochemical high. One can appreciate asthetics without sexual attraction, otherwise there’d be way more people grinding on their cars…. And feeling “uncomfortable” in Zen Gardens.
It would probably be a more clinical feeding. The Tantric Sense wouldn’t have “the best” tingle, it would be “a” tingle. Like eating an unflavored energy or protein bar, or maybe even plain rice. It’s just food, it exists, it’s a thing you need to make you go. There is no “joy” or “experience”, you just eat.
Succubi with a Tantric eating disorder would be something else completely.
Not sure about other Ace’, butt that’s how it is with me, more of an overwhelming urge than a wanted desire
Am able to go without, butt if leave it too long, have very unpleasant, and totally unwanted, sex dreams, at least with masturbation it is me in control, and can choose what to masturbate to (doesn’t exactly bring me pleasure, it is just something feel compelled to do, and always feel ’empty’ afterwards, sort of like reverse binge eating: with that, you are eating because you feel empty and need to ‘fill’ it, even if you get no pleasure or any real satisfaction)
I’m an ace too. With me, it’s one of two things:
– Decrease hernia pain by redirecting bloodflow, pressure decreases for awhile.
– A way to generate what is it, seratonin? so I can actually get to sleep despite my sleeping disorder.
I guess the experience of being Ace isn’t exactly universal. I’ve always kind of wondered about that. I’m not going to lie and say that I don’t indulge in self pleasure from time to time, but I’ve never had the urge that you describe.
The term “Ace” is used in so many completely different contexts relating to so many different subjects that the term itself is largely invisible in that context.
Asexual people must have super muscular necks from constantly shaking their heads at how much time and effort non-asexuals spend on sexual pursuits.
About two years back I read an explanation of “jump off” and a dozen other sex-related terms used by people who spend much of their life coordinating between their current, backup, opportunistic, and other love lives, I believe in particular classes and possibly ethnic groups.
If most of that energy and attention and effort went to earning money, as it did & does with my cohort, it would close the wealth gap in a generation.
The time and energy spent can be fairly amazing, can’t it? As a young man I did some clubbing, but it was never my preferred scene. Too loud, too abrupt, and I’m not a dancer. So going out once a week or fortnight was fine for me. But one of my oldest friends was heavy into the scene, going to bars several times per week. He is, to my amateur evaluation, of a personality type who is both not comfortable alone with himself, and also seeks intimate companionship no matter how superficial or trivial it is. He has just separated from his second wife, unfortunately, and sadly this probably very much means that he, who has also struggled with alcoholism, will be very likely to start hitting the clubs and bars again looking to fill whatever void.
Probably because an asexual succubus would die rather quickly after they pass through puberty.
Since as Dabbler said to Sydney (the morning after the Vehemence fight), succubi NEED sex. Like humans need food or vampires need blood. It’s just a basic part of their existence. Someone who is both a succubus and asexual would very likely starve to death just like an anorexic human or a vampire who is, I don’t know, allergic to blood.
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/comic/grrl-power-312-succudigression/
It’s just a condition of living.
No, Ace still need, and have, sex, they just don’t get the same enjoyment out of it as ‘normal’ people do, it’s just something they (we) endure, like having to eat gluten free sugar-free health ‘food’: it may give the same nutrition and sustenance, there’s just nothing there to actually enjoy
Well, lots of sex isn’t enjoyable anyway, it just is.
The idea that “it’s all good” is an adolescent fantasy that some people cling to even when their life experiences should have taught them better.
If it isn’t good they just chase after more and more, certain that next time it will be fantastic. It can become an obsession.
But realistically sometimes sex wil hurt.
You may feel a chemical attraction another person doesn’t feel, or find out someone was using you to meet your friends or to hurt someone else. You may find someone developing an attachment to you whom you really don’t like or ethically dissaprove of after the shiny wears off and you really look at what they do.
Even without getting into pregnancy, and diseases there are so many ways to get hurt in sex.
I realize that this comic is intended to present sex in an idealized way, where it can be enjoyed vicariously and harmlessly. But my life has had to much of the bad stuff to not see the pitfalls even in a comic series.
I’d rather see more nerd pursuits. And cookies. Dabbler and Cora need to make cookies together.
And the superhero RPG from the opening needs to get started, because it looked like they were at the end of a campaign. As slow as this series moves the first session needs to happen soon, plus I want to see them design their characters…
No, with most Ace, sex is never enjoyable, it’s just something they have to endure
Who said that it was?
Plenty of people find sex to be enjoyable, just not Ace
Asexual means lacking sexual attraction. Some enjoy sex and some don’t. Even allosexuals can either enjoy or not enjoy sex. These labels only relate to sexual attraction. If it means more than that they are adding things to it to avoid having a larger label or are simply misunderstanding the term.
But even for people who do enjoy sex, they don’t necessarily enjoy it every time.
Or even necessarily most times.
The point is, for a lot of asexuals, they rarely, if ever, enjoy sex, not matter how good it is
Right.
But that doesn’t make them unique in not enjoying sex either.
Not even in frequency of not enjoying sex.
Never said they were unique, was just explaining that they still need and have sex, they just don’t get any enjoyment out of it, and certainly don’t have the drive others seem to have
No, what you’ve listed here are ways that the consequences of sex can hurt a person. That has just about zip to do with the ways that sex can hurt a person during the act, which is what you are implying.
In the sex act there are only a few, specific ways to harm your partner. I am of course not counting the ways in which some bastard might harm their partner that doesn’t have to include sex at all, it is just some idiot being an idiot.
Awwwww little Sydney is too Adorable. I hope we see her again. Hell maybe do an age regression ark/story were Sydney and the gang become young teens/kids.
LOL… “Young Sydney”, a spinoff series (Dave has time for that, right?) in the vein of Young Sheldon / Big Bang Theory.
Oh Hael no! Young Sheldon was total shit, Adult Smelly Shelly was a complete anti-social arsehole, butt at least the actor was good in the role
The idiots who came up with the idea completely forgot (or were too stupid to realise) that it was Jim Parsons who made the character even remotely watchable
Archon Babies, we make our dreams come true…
Is Sydney wearing a pushup+padded bra? She seems way embiggened from her normal stature. Also, what happened to her glasses? I’m guessing Harem took them, but it’s already established that Sydney’s eyesight is pretty bad…is she wearing contacts?
Actually she mostly just needs glasses to read.
Not going to read much in a darkened dance club with flashing lights and trapeze artists overhead anyway.
Naa, she’s just wearing a dress designed to show off her boobs (because Harem picked it) instead of her usual loose t-shirt.
Actually, it’s a shirt designed to enhance what she has, not a dress, she is sill wearing her jeans :)
Dabbler has an effect on most humans she comes into contact with, that makes them lust for her; this occurs even when her appearance is illusionary. I thought this was an effect that she didn’t create consiously (like pheromones). Does Tammy not have this effect? Will she? And when does she attend Succubus School?
I would expect this effect will also appear as part of puberty … and possibly will go on/off unpredictably for few years …
All I’m going to say is, mini-halo is the cutest thing, and I must do a protect.
ALL THE PROTECT.
FINALLY!!!!
Proof that 300 is a chick-flick!
:lol:
Some classify it as softporn. I van see how it can serve that purpose.
Gay-porn
Yeah. A chick flick.
For me as a hormonal tweenage girl it was, “Hnnnnng whyiseveryoneattractiveallofthesudden?!” Over time that mellowed out…. Mostly. Sort of. Kinda. Maybe. Don’t judge.
I would never…
Wouldn’t know how or what to judge anyway.
Now, for a lot of guys, take that, and have it never go away. And add in an inability to properly talk around people you consider attractive until you’re probably in your late 20s.
I’m 61 and I still can’t speak properly around people I consider attractive. Fortunately there are lots of people who find that “endearing” when it’s not faked.
I did not think that was real until I met a milly(one in a million) by total accident, was working and walked into the lounge of a customers house. Her daughters were discussing what dress they were going to wear, I was not even looking on my way out as she crossed my vision. It was like getting hit between the eyes with an axe handle and all hope of conscious thought left me as I staggered from the room, they decided that dress had the right effect as I fled.
I was in my mid twenties when I first found out that “took my breath away” was not just a saying. I met this woman, friend of a friend, and literally could not breathe, as if I had been punched in the solar plexus, for about ten seconds. Only one experience like that ever.
Another time, a woman was moving in my general direction across a crowded room – I was above on a balcony – and I could literally feel sparks from her shooting off my personal shields. (Never even met this one; I was happily married.) Again, a completely unique experience.
Yeah, we used to have a woman in the front office like that. I can’t even say she was my type, (I’m very happily married to a short and insanely cute filipina.) but somehow she was so good looking she was almost literally painful to look at. I met super models who didn’t have the same impact.
A pity she was no good at her job, (Geeze, you’d think looking that good would have been an asset in sales!) but just by looking good she held onto it for months after anybody else would have been let go.
Heh, I wish it was something that seems as easy as you’ve described, for me.
For me, as a pubescent male, it was more like “Why is my dick hard all the time and damn that girl looks good. Oh crap, she saw me staring, I’ll try to act natural, as if a boner-wielding kid who can’t look her in the eye is natural.”
Well, I couldn’t tell you precisely what triggered my sexual attractions but I CAN tell you that I have felt personally attacked by the attractiveness of people to the point of severe distraction, so I can’t necessarily say that goes away (I’ve never walked into a wall, to my recollection. I have walked into other stuff, but I’m also just a total klutz…). Maybe that’s just a bi thing, it’s tough to say. It’s easy to get overwhelmed when literally every attractive person has the potential to push your buttons.
Im very thankfull Im not bi. It was hard enough to talk to just girls in my teens. If I was bi I would have been twice as frustrated.
I like Tamatha. I hope she becomes a more frequent character. :3
Prolly will be. After all Sydney is looking to make female friends, and the author seems to be heading her into a harem situation, so a succubus pal is almost a requirement…
I remember seeing posters, in Varna, for a film called “Zoo”, which I found really odd as it appeared to feature Greek warriors. Years later I caught 300 on YouTube and went, ‘oh, that is Zoo!’ as soon as I saw the likeness and realised that I had been reading a Cyrillic poster, not a Latin alphabet one. Which changed the meaning from the apparent “Zoo” to “300”, as their “Z” looks like a “3”.
This comment being inspired by the film in question being depicted in the penultimate panel, for anyone who may be wondering about my random rambling, and who is not familiar with the movie themselves.
Yeah, always thought the ‘3’ looked more like a ‘Z’
I wonder how those with supernatural special needs arrange to legally get around laws. For example this poor lass is a teenage succubus, and likely hit puberty well before her states legal age of consent.
100x puberty is torture that any rational person would try to help her fix, and self pleasure is unlikely to do much for that.
Perhaps give her a fake id and a pass to sit in the back of a brothel? Leeching off the clients through the wall would at least take the edge off.
So, we have a teenage girl in a club with a fake ID, trying to pick up guys. Is her code name Jailbait? Why isn’t Halo even trying to stop this? Not much of a hero.
She’s not talking past tense, so it’s not a moment of “When I was a tween”
Halo needs to step up.
We have no idea of any sort whatsoever how old she is in human years.
Dabbler looks young, but she is a hundred and sixty years older than Sydney.
Do Succubi start out infant size and age as humans do only so slowly that it takes a hundred and eighty one years to get to Dabblers stage?
Do they start out already the equivalent of a toddler as cattle do?
Do they start out as babies and age like humans until puberty and then slow down?
Are they hatched like in the 1966 film with William Shatner?
So many possibilities.
She was just sitting at the bar playing on her phone, not hitting on guys.
Granted, she’s clearly underage, but she’s not nursing a bottle of scotch either.
As the author, himself, pointed out, she’s not hitting on guys, but is playing on her phone, and this is probably the most wholesome way she can get her nutritional needs, as clubs have a plethora of tantric energy. So, what you’re really asking is “Why isn’t Halo stepping up and starving an adolescent creature that is harmlessly grazing off the available background energy of this setting, one of the few she can harmlessly graze off of? Yeah, she could go and do harmful feeding that is morally repugnant on multiple levels, and sure to damn the one she feeds off of, but this harmless option I find distasteful, too!”
Eh… more like, “Why isn’t Halo asking some VERY pointed questions about how potentially problematic this whole situation is, given that this underaged girl is already breaking the law just by being there (and also making the establishment into unwitting accessories), could easily misuse her powers to do a LOT more than just graze on background energy, AND is vulnerable to potential attackers (anything from sexual predators, to demon hunters).
Best case scenario, this is the equivalent of an underaged kid who snuck into an R-rated film and is munching on popcorn. PLEASE tell me there’s a responsible adult chaperoning this kid?
Who said she is underage? Just because she looks underage doesn’t mean she is, just look at Sydney, before the Harem make-over she looked underage, now she looks even more underage
I don’t think she’s actually doing anything squicky like hitting on guys, or illegal like drinking, but as for who said she is underage, that would be DaveB. DaveB said she is underage. Also the character herself said she is underage when she said she was a tween.
Me! I did! ;D
Also, the title of strip #789.
Really? Thought she just looked underage, like Sydney, maybe just on the legal age
As for the tween bit, thought she was talking about the past, not the present
The word ‘lately’ indicates a recent event.
Look. Tamatha is a teenager. Explicitly. I made her, so I should know.
Not going to argue with the creator, was explaining why thought she was older
That’s fair. No harm done, and hopefully no hard feelings. <3
Nope, not at all :D
Just to clarify: is Tammy a teenager in regards to hyu-mons? or Succubae? or both?
If hyu-mon teenager, would that make her a Succubae toddler?
She’s mentally and physically the equivalent of a teenager. I think this also means she is literally about fourteen or so years old, but I am unsure how fast succubi mature.
Wait, if she is legally only 14, how did she get in? o_O
Is her fake I.D. that good? O_o
Exactly. And if it was a normal tween girl in a night club, regardless of what was going on, it would be a matter of “WTF?”
Halo should be thinking the same thing now, especially since she’s part of law enforcement now.
As regards the differences between male and female pubescence, worth keeping in mind that most females plan out their (theoretical) futures in detail, while males at the exact same age are still sniggering at double-meanings and snapping each other’s underwear.
That kind of depends on the individuals.
Uhmmm, where did her wings disappear to?
In which frame?
Probably four and eight (the panels Tammy is looking down Sydney’s top), it’s not just her wings that have disappeared in those panels, her entire back is gone as well!! Including the back of her skull!!!!
Powerful stuff that veil.
It can make anything disappear.
In the last panel she’s tucking them under her sweatshirt because that flashback was from before she knew about the veil.
Also in potentially crowded school hallways it’s probably better to keep flappy bits close to one’s body.
Kind of an odd variety of cartoon guys to choose there…any particular reason for these choices?
Possibly simply because they are recognizable
Just the first cartoon teen boys I thought of.
Given that particular panel is being filtered through Sydney’s imagination as Tam describes it, it’s easy to imagine those four being picked simply due to how dear miss Scoville’s pop-culture-soaked brain works.
It’s not suggesting that Ron, Marco, Ben, & Johnny are really there, just them being mental filler in her envisioning of the scenario.
Ooo, just took a closer look at panel four: is Tammy trying to look down Sydney’s cleavage? o_O
I have no idea if that was Dave’s intention, but it wouldn’t be out of character for Tamatha to do that.
Since that would be quite out of character for Dave, I checked.
My conclusion is that the eyelines of Tamatha are just that: eyelines.
And not where far too many men think the eyes of a woman are located.
Actually, it’s not out of character for Dave, remember that scene in the bathroom between Sydney and Dabbles’ hypnobewbies? And it kinda helps that Tammy’s creator says that it wouldn’t be out of character
Just try half-lowering your eyelids without squinting, it ain’t easy, butt half-lowering your eyelids while also looking down (without moving your head) is
Really? All I have to do is call upon the powers of “apathy” and “being dead inside”… Are you telling me that most people lack the ability to go blank at will, and return to caring whenever they feel like it…?
oh wait… is that… and that other… and this other guy… and him… so many references
Hey, I got the first Star Justice book a while ago when it was on Amazon. I just read it and now want the second book. Where can I get it?
Thanks
All his books are back online, though not at Amazon anymore.
https://www.michaelscottearle.com/star-justice
I never had a moment that I noticed a magazine cover.
It was a classmate. And she, like everyone else in my fourth grade class, thought of me as “that weird kid”.
Everyone except asexuals, who just keep going on with whatever they were doing. They suffer from confusion with being unable to relate to sexual feelings, but they don’t get distracted by them either and that kind of focus a lot of us find envious at times I think.
I wonder if asexual succubi are possible. What would she be like? No craving, but she can still absorb and wield tantric energy? Sorry if you find that boring, but emotionally, that’d be objectively easier to wield.
There are plenty of kids who haven’t started puberty yet in fourth grade.
Got that right, hit me in my senior year in HS. Wonder if it had anything to do with my younger brother thinking kicking me in the balls was hilarious?
And because it’s a most wonderful time,
A new Cape High novel (number 25 now).
Ok let’s see
Ron stoppable, I cant tell, the late high school version of Ben ten, and Johnny Test.
All four are mentioned in the very first thread on the first page
Honestly, it’s just nice to know even Cubi have that Awkward Phase; I wonder what Dabbler’s was like?
I’m old enough that I don’t remember much of the details of my puberty, but I do remember being annoyed by the ridiculous and unnecessary distractions it caused. I remember thinking how much more fun high school would have been without the other kids, especially the cute girls, around. Yes, I liked learning.
Gwen Stefani in the Don’t Speak video was, to me, the reason TV was invented.
I love the sound effects in this comic! AAAAAABS!
Aren’t we forgetting that if 300 came out in 2007, right now, in the comic timeline, it’s barely 2011? Or did Sydney hit the guy-crazy part later than some?
jesus christ this author is creepy