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An 8 ton limit? I thought that she’d be stringer than that.
A time ago I did some calculations to estimate Anvil strength and I think that actually it is a lot less.
DaveB has said that Harem with five bodies is “about as strong as a regular fit 19 years old girl”. I will do a wild guess and say that a girl like that could lift about 110 lbs (50kg).
DaveB also said that with one body Harem is “16 times as stronger putting her about on par with Anvil”. So Anvil must be about 20 times stronger than “a regular fit 19 years old”.
20 times 110 lbs is 2,200 lbs (998 kg, 1.1 short tons).
Even doubling my initial estimate we end with about 2 short tons.
I think “800 lbs” means the total weight of each side, ie 1.600 lbs (725 kg, 0.8 short tons)
And if so then I got it right :)
Hmm, I guess maybe I got the math wrong then… or maybe I upped Anvil’s strength somewhere along the way, though you can lift a lot more in a deadlift than you can in a military press or something.
Well, actually mi estimate was for a Deadlift.
According my searches 110 is an average for Harem personal stas but some sites set it even to 160 for intermediate level.
Becca Swanson (5 ft. 10 in., 240 lbs., 54 in. shoulders) has the mundial record on Deadlift (once, no repetitions) with 683 lbs.
But it do not matters, Grrl Power universe is under construction :)
So, your intend do was Anvil Deadlifting 8 short tons, right?
Yeah that seems like a good level for her to work out at.
Ok, thank you :)
Yes, seems about right to me being her a super strong and taking account that Maxima lifted around 6 short tons (the ambulance) with one hand :)
A comment from O.B. Juan opens a workaround that rest in the differences of weight and train.
According with the statistical average height-weight for USA females a, say, “not skinny” woman 6 feet 7 in. could weigh around 260lbs.
Assuming Harem is a novice weightlifter and Anvil is an elite one, the relationship could be slightly forced to 5 to 1. So if Harem will train as much as Anvil, she would be like 60% as strong.
Depends on what you mean by regular fit… I’ve seen girls that could snatch over 200# and deadlift over 350# and not be muscle heads when I was in the Marines.
Hope they compete cause those are around (or above) World Powerlifting Federation and Olympic records to half women categories, included Harem’s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snatch_%28weightlifting%29#World_records
200 pounds = 90 kg
300 pounds = 136 kg
From the book Essentials of Weightlifting and Strength training, copyright 2003, pg 493:
Nahla Mohamed, age 16, did a 102.5Kg snatch, clean and jerk of 127.5 KG, by the time she hit 18, set world record for 145kg in the jerk.
I can do a search for deadlift in the book if you’d like, but the point is, that 18 year old was chucking almost 300# overhead by the age of 18 in the jerk…
Just for full disclosure, that’s not an exact quote from the page, just a real quick summary of achievement.
I am not sure I understand. Are you proposing to take worlds records as “regular”?
Just realized that I included the wrong link in my early post. This is the intended:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_records_in_weightlifting#Women.27s_records
No, I’m implying that if a peak female can do over 300# overhead, then it would seem to me that an average female of the same age in good shape should be able to lift significantly more off the ground than 110#.
My daughter, who is skinny as a rail and doesn’t exercise, could lift my 70# kettlebell off the ground when she was 13.
I know it’s not an apples to apples comparison, but I can military press around 180# but can deadlift cold over 300, and I haven’t lifted in probably a year.
Point is, a reasonably fit 19 yr old should be able to deadlift at least 150#, and quite probably closer to 200#, especially since women usually have a much more powerful lower body than a similar guy. Check out some of the women who sling kettlebells around. Pressing 100#+ overhead isn’t THAT unusual.
Ok, I understand.
The only defense that I can offer is that I did not estimate that number, I took it from exercise programs and statistical averages that I found over the web, selecting professional sites that seemed reliables.
A “regular fit 19 yo” is a bit vague but according to the USA healt centers sites I consulted it have pretty much Harem’s stats (she would be a bit skinny actually) so I took those.
For Harem’s personal stats 110 lb is a bit less than a novice (but almost twice than untrained) and, as I said in another post, we could take it up to 160 for an intermediate.
Higher than that my sources no longer support it, it would be somebody bigger or heavier or way more trained than we are assuming to Harem.
Also it seems that the rate between a trained novice and an elite is more than twice.
Obviously if you differ you are totally on your right :)
Works for me. There’s also the case for exercise specific specialization as well. If all someone focused on in their fitness regiment is deadlifts and overhead presses, you’d get a much different lifting capacity than if you threw in every single exercise in the book.
I’m pretty sure that I could take an average 16 year old girl and get them up to 200# deadlift in 6 months to a year if that was the primary focus. I know I personally went from 200# deadlifts to 500# deadlifts in around a years time because that’s what I focused on specifically.
So it’s all just random numbers unless you can get more specific about what type of fitness programs you’re talking about that the “average girl” focused on. :)
On a related note, here’s a pic of Sri Cinmoy doing a one arm, partial rep, overhead press of over 7,000#
https://worldpeaceguide.tripod.com/Wisdom/Sri_Chinmoy/Sri_chinmoy_lift.jpg
Sri Chinmoy, not Cinmoy
Your link do not work, it seems that TRIPOD do not allow external linkage. Here there is the link to the article with the picture: https://worldpeaceguide.tripod.com/Wisdom/Sri_Chinmoy/sri_chinmoy.html
I did not know about him. In a very quick search I was unable to found an oficial site referring to the 7000 lift but several about his spiritual career and other awesome liftings. Here something about him if anyoune else wants to see: https://www.inspiration-lifts.org/
Anyway It is a seriously impressive picture. Thank you.
8 ton? Is that what 16’000 is? 800 per weight, on both sides
Yes, your are right.
Just in case they are talking about “short tons” (EUA weight unit) equivalent to 2000 pound each (or 907 kg).
Poor Sydney in the background :P
Notice the cross-brace between the weights, under the barbell? It’s the BARBELL that has the 8-ton limit, and that’s simply the only athletic equipment Anvil has access to.
just in case anyone’s wondering, the grip indicates she’s going to be doing waist high “dead lifts” rather than a “snatch” or “clean” lift. (because we’re not all weight lifters here, and some might be confused by one underhand and one overhand grip.)
I don’t mind saying I was.
Pretty good form!
So Anvil will be powering threw reps at 8.01 tons (you have to consider the weight of the bar and brace as well), while Sydney is struggling with her 12 pounders. Or is that being measured in ounces?
Hiro: The first thing we are going to do in your basic training is determine your physical fitness level. We will start with jumping jacks for two minutes. Ready, Go! Scoville, what do you call that? That is not a jumping jack!
Recruit Halo: Well, I never really *gasp* got the hang of *gasp* these things. Barg! [ Trips over her feet and falls awkwardly on her face. Slowly gets back to her feet. ]
Hiro: Okay, that is time. Scoville, did you manage to even get one good jumping jack?
Wonderful! A great drawing, the angle, the face expression, and it totally communicate the growing up tension about to be released.
A good idea to publicate the sketch, I like it.
ok,,,, i want to see it finished,,, anvil sure get me wet,,
I was so tempted to sing a new version of “16 tons”
You lift 16 tons
whata ya get?
Another rep older
and covered in sweat
Now Peggy doncha call me
’cause I can’t go
I owe my soul to Halo’s
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The version I came up with.
You lift 16 tons and what do get?
A blown-out knee and a back that’s wrecked.
My Lord, don’t call me ’cause I can’t go
I still have nine more reps to go.
I guess that second line might not apply to Anvil.
Kinetic energy re-directors like Anvil are always extremely hard to write rules about. Technically speaking she gets a tiny bit of a power up just by walking around (her feet on the ground, the air hitting her body, hell even sunlight if you want to be truly silly about it). Anvil should be one of those supers that can do the super-jump to travel (assuming she’s figured that out), power herself up by doing the “superball bounce” while in combat, and would be mostly invulnerable so long as she could keep moving.
Essentially she’s almost Juggernaut – only without the armor or bad attitude, and much better looking. She’s probably not quite as invulnerable as he is, but he would look terrible in a strapless evening gown, so we’ll call it even.
Don’t be so sure about that: have you seen Juggy in a strapless? They don’t call him ‘Jugs’ for nothing /wink
Juggernaut has shrugged off energy weapons on multiple occasions. I am thinking that Anvil will not be able to store and reuse that energy quite as easily. Slap her hard with the Lighthook and she powers up. Nail her with the PPO and you are down a teammate.
Anvil is closer to Strong Guy moreso than Juggs
To be fair Juggy’s main thing is the fact that his strength depends on movement. If he can’t move he’s no more dangerous than a normal human in a similar situation. Anvil on the other hand can “supposedly” take pretty much anything Juggy could dish out and give it right back to him.
so… my only thought here. she’s lifting 16,000 pounds. WHAT are her SHOES made of that the soles don’t collapse? (some special material that Dabbler came up with, i’m sure, but the question begs itself)
well… not my only thought… but it definitely showed up in the logic fridge.
If there are no cells in the material, and maybe “steel belted radial” in nature, live rubber would work. Heck, it holds up fully loaded semi’s that start out at 13 tons for the cab, 5 for the trailer and up to 22 for the load (80,000 lbs, 40 tons max legal load) And even then, it’s the ROAD that has the problems with the weight, not the rubber tires.
To blazes with her shoes, what are the weights made of? Judging from the size, they’re comparable to hundred pound (45 kg) weights, but even iridium/osmium alloy is only three times as dense as cast iron, and that’s the densest material accessible on the planet. Not to mention that the stuff’s rarer than platinum, with Anvil about to lift the equivalent of two years of worldwide production.
Depleted neutronium?
If you are talking about Neutron Star material a teaspoon weighs about as much as a mountain. How about we say it’s a density enhanced material. The Superman diamond trick could be used on an inert mass to make it incredible dense then give it an iron shell so it doesn’t damage things. I’m sure Dabbler could do it. And any gravity manipulation super could do it. Max might even have the strength to crush it.
Not a bad idea in theory, although you’d want to use something like carbon nanotubes to contain the dense material, because otherwise it would just expand out again. I remember Doctor Robert L Forward writing his first novel on the idea of life on Neutron Stars (Dragon’s Egg), where the human science team used compressed matter to get close enough to look at one. The matter was just encased in diamond, which is a good idea, but might shatter if you drop the weight.
Yeah, I’m overthinking this, I’m a nerd, thanks, although not so pop cultured as Sidney and Leon.
Forward was Awesome, May he rest in peace.
It doesn’t have to be as dense as a neutron star really just denser than Osmium. It’s possible the are stable elements we haven’t detected yet. Elements that have cycled through stars a few more times. Our info on most stars is anywhere from hundreds to thousands of years old. Dabbler my have a large mass of such an element as it would have many uses.
Nah. Each plate has a gravitic compenasator in it, allowing for adjustments in the plate’s immediate gravity field to increase or decrease weight (not mass) as desired.
Okay call me a dirty old man but when I look at that picture all I can think of is I want to be directly behind her and “Surprise” her. Assuming of course she was into it. Because even a love tap from her could be painful.
Really depends on what you mean by “surprise” there. If you mean a slap, she’d feel it but likely not be happy. If you mean a goose, I doubt you’d be able to pinch anything.
And if you were aiming/suggesting for something a bit more risque … well, there is a scene in the hentai anime “La Blue Girl” where two of the characters are discussing what could/would happen if that were to occur. I’d, uh, prefer not to think along those lines any further….
Well right now she’s not absorbing kinetic energy so yes she would feel it and I specifically said “if she’s into it”. When women are in the right mood a “surprise” of any sort can be not only welcome but sought out. Women can be just as playful and “horny” as men.
Anvil is awesome. That is all.
Who is the girl with ‘squat’ shirt – Harem?
The big one is Anvil, the short one is Sydney.
Sorry I didn’t notice it was updated.
I am really not sure. Maybe Goth Harem or Gwen with the hair behind the ears but seems it should be more. Not sure about Seneca.
I am thinking that is the blonde (not platinum) version of Harem, with her hair tied back.
I thought it is a bit short: https://davebarrack.deviantart.com/art/Harem-Playboy-Shoot-with-Tops-354161627
But yes, could be.
You know, considering she soaks up energy, I want to see her fighting someone that doesn’t know her power and start doing a “Rope a Dope” like Muhammad Ali. That would probably be her best tactic possible. They tire themselves and power her up at the same time.
In such battles it would be hard to know exactly the capabilities and physical dynamics involved in combat here. So going in is a risk all the same. Unless you have stun weapons that work on them you have to go with what you have to take them down. Play patty cake at your own leisure.
Okay I’ll take on Anvil to suffer that kind of defeat.
Hmm, looks like they need to add somebody who is a porta-jail. Of course, knocking them out does work, but there are a lot of situations where a cop type can’t do that. And 10 people are going to have a serious problem preventing 30 [or at least 20 of them] from escaping.
Just break pieces of them until they aren’t interested in escape. The human body can withstand a LOT of trauma, particularly if it’s mostly focused in the extremeties ^_^
16 tons, I’m not sure if she lifts from that position she will be able to budge it. If she scoots up closer and gets her center over it, sure, but for her weight she’s moving an order of magnitude more weight than any power lifter has ever moved. I think she’d have to almost straddle the bar to lift it, or she’ll just pull herself down to the bar. Kind of like what happened to Max when she tried to pull Sydney out from under the buss.