Grrl Power #164 – Stop! Hammerspace!
I need to go back through the comic and put little sparkles on Max whenever she’s out in sunlight. I have to say I’m fairly pleased with the art on this page. There’s always things that could be better, but when I loaded it up to post the comic my first thought was “Hey that’s pretty good looking.” Although I just noticed that Dabbler’s braids change color. :/ Something else for the fix list. Edit: Fixed the braids and I also boneheadedly reversed the colors on Maxima’s choker, which is also fixed.
Anyone who doesn’t quite understand what’s going on in the middle row of panels because you’ve just recently joined us might want to jump back to here and read the next few pages. Well. Dabbler is teleporting a gun to her hand. I mean the stuff about her looking like a purple demon.
Let’s see. To wrap up on some stuff I’ve mentioned over the last few weeks. Shadow Warrior was great. Wearing the Cape: Young Sentinels was a good read as well. Probably not as good as the first book in the series, but most novels are like that. That said, I did enjoy The Trials of Renegade X even more than the first one, for reasons I can’t really even hint at without spoiling stuff. Not that there’s tweests left and right, but… well even saying stuff like that can be spoilery. Are there twists? You don’t know! Bah. I need a forum for people who have read the same books as me. Or just more meatspace friends that read superhero novels.
So I agree that Sydney would use Hammerspace to store warhammers.
But how many do you think she would be able to cram in there?
I’m guessing at least…
40,000
:3
And one whole Space Marine. :P
remember. this is Sydney we are talking about here. she wouldn’t have just one space marine. she would try and find a way to stash the whole fracked armada.
And possibly a complete WAAAGH! of Orks
I just visualized the chaos that would ensue if Sydney did that. All I can do now is just shake my head, facepalm and laugh uncontrollably.
Really need to start playing WAR again :(
Why didn’t anyone tell me they shut down WAR? :(
Plus at least one ‘Warhammer’ mech from Battletech (TM).
Entire army of those, one for each day of the year.
And an armada of space-ships, for the same reason.
Imagine her going shopping.
Imagine Sydney going shopping in Japan with a hammerspace portal at her disposal. Why Japan? Shinjuku of course. I could easily see her spending several days there.
Depending on what she can actually stash in her hammerspace, she’d probably take the entire district with her, not just every manga/anime or awesome person/item she comes across.
Giant FRIGGING MECHS!!!! https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/465030-pokemon
That… that is a Darkrai Mech… HOLY POKE-GUNDAM-MON BATMAN!!!! @.@
That’s fracking awesome.
I want one. Actually, make it two; I want to give my enemies a fighting chance.
Thats over 9,000!!
Only really need to store one hammer. The Hammer That Smashes Suns, from Creatures of Light and Darkness, by Zelazny. Small problem: if you pull it out of hammerspace, you prolly end with a near-planetary scale mega-artifact.
Or, I suppose Mjolnir would work, if Sydney had the range of psychosis and strength required to lift it.
Quality has a quantity all its own.
At a guess, over 9,000.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtpyeLxVkI
Oh, crap! Bbg100 beat me by a full day and I didn’t see it. :(
between her glamour and her succubus nature, why *wouldn’t* her braids change color?
As so many others have said, why wouldn’t her braids change color? It’s all an illusion, duh.
The Glamour version is blond, the real version has blue hair. What we see is part of the Glamour, and part of the real thing
…and now some people are going to rant:
-what if that caused the gun to shoot a bullet who’d ricochet 7 times like for JFK and kill the president, starting the war between supers and humans? (3 people)
-Woohoo boobs giggling! *giggle* (4.8 million people)
-Crazy thin chick with firm ass 1, Awesome babe with the gun 0. Trolololol (0.9 million people)
-Big golden meanie is mean to trololol! (84 people)
-How come that one is the only one who’se not hot? (400 people)
-Trololololol it’s all a trick to sell the next Superhero movie! (90,243 people)
-Halo: Can I haz chezburger plz? Or boobs? (1.1 million people)
Are you new here?
I Believe they are referring to the YouTube comments from the bank heist.
Sounds about right!
Did anyone else notice that Syd noticed the glow from the lower arm as Dabbler summond the weapon (panel 4)? Is Syd just close enough to see it (anyone can) or does just having the trusight give her a low level of ‘sight’?
More likely she was just close enough, and observant enough, to notice
You also have to remember that she actually knows Dabbler’s true form. The press would just see a random glow, likely not even recognizing the shape as a hand.
Uhh…
She was also grabbing the Truesight orb behind her back. Maybe it allows her to see through glamours, as well as actually see magic?
Sydney is also jumping to conclusions again. This may or may not be hammerspace access.
The spell may be creating a gun out of magic, or teleporting a gun from a safe place, but not necessarily hammerspace. I would assume the teleportation option myself, until shown otherwise. But I tend to the conservative…
To be fair, hammerspace is often referred to as interdimensional storage. There isn’t any major difference between that and what dabbler does using her ship. Especially since I believe somewhere it was said that she can travel between dimensions.
Yes, hammerspace is exactly inter-dimensional storage. The exact mechanics can vary, but the concept of hammerspace is a trope, and Sydney is obviously trope cognizant. That part makes perfect sense.
Yes, retrieving something from her lab via teleporter or from a hammerspace would have a similar effect. But the mechanics are different.
Anyway…
I’ve finally broken down and read the cast entry for Dabbler, since people keep mentioning it (Generally, I prefer to know only what I can infer from reading the actual story). Part of it: “She also has a cybernetic arm with a teleporter in it that allows her to retrieve weapons & gadgets from her lab.”
It would appear that is what is happening here. But I totally get why Syd jumped to the other conclusion: it’s funnier. :)
It’s still effectivly hammerspace, I vote that sidney gets one too… as a braclet/glove/watch preferably.
i assume hammeespace is a trope of some kind?
Not sure where/when it started, but basically ‘Hammerspace’ is the place used to explain where cute little girls get the taller-than-2-of-them hammer they just used to bonk some pervy boy on the head
there was a RPG called “Toon” a few years ago that explained it all but i can’t remember what they explained it as.
Here’s an explanation, BUT proceed to this website with caution as it is a notorious time trap. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Hammerspace
yes it is OMG it is
That site is worse than the first time you discovered all of the following websites COMBINED:
youtube
wikipedia
grrlpowercomic
xkcd
giantitp
erfworld
google (yes, it’s worse than the first time you found google)
Never been to TVTropes (well, might have gone once, but that was it) and don’t use Google
Dammit – worse than reddit… I only just NOW tore myself away! Haven’t gone to work or the restroom in more than 6 years!
…THANKS Chaos
hmmm… I should probably check on my kids…
and who the hell paid my power bills?!
Pretty sure Hammerspace started as a staple in old WB cartoons, where characters would often pull hammers out of nothing. Watch any old Bugs Bunny short and you’re bound to see it at least once.
Exactly. Hammerspace is a generic term for interdimensional storage.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Hammerspace
The mechanics can vary (in anime/manga it often has no explanation).
But while what Dabs is doing is effectively the same as hammerspace, it is not.
In much the same way that a Model T Ford is not the same as a Tesla Model S . Though both are drivable, they are powered differently and have different characteristics.
A Bag of Holding is a form of hammerspace.
But Oblivious (the sword) being pulled out of “nowhere” is not: <a href='https://www.goblinscomic.org/03022012/"Goblins
Hmm, I wonder if this is too many links. I think there is a limit after which they stop working…
Try this for the Goblins link.
But the point I’m trying to makeis this:
Just like a speargun and a crossbow have similar but different.
So is what Dabbler does compared to accessing hammerspace.
Unless our esteemed author changes his mind…
I don’t figure anything is set in stone until it actually happens in the comic.
And of course, Dab’s may be intrigued by Syd’s interest and do some research into setting up a hammerspace in the future…
The main difference, imo, is that Dabbles’ cyber-arm acts as the BoH/Hammerspace-interface
And love the metallic green for that car (is it really only $2500? or is that just the deposit?)
Syd: But I’ll only use it to store my lunch.
*later during a battle*
Max: Quick Halo, pull out your lunch and throw it in the enemy’s face!
*gets a letter from the Hague accusing Halo of using Biological weapons*
Pretty sure that’d be a chemical weapon.
Like mustard gas, except about a million times worse. Napalm would be nicer.
About six or seven is the upper limit. Anything over one gets put on the moderator queue to be approved before posting.
Agreed. One significant difference between teleporting an item from her lab (presumably in Arc or somewhere else in their world, and summoning it from an extradimensional space, is the possibility that someone could break in to it, using mundane means, and steal the items. Causing a problem the next time she tries to summon it.
She might already have hammerspace. We still don’t know the full extent of her powers.
Well, it does mention on the cast page that Dabbler has a teleporter built into her cybernetic arm.
I didn’t read the other page of comments, but being scubbi would total cover all nearly nude anime female pulling out and firing guns larger than their limbs are. Take old school Dirty Pair as an example. Hmm Disturbing thought, Sydney hanging out with the Dirty Pair…there goes the planet…again.
your thinking too small, if Sydney was hanging out with the Dirty Pair it wouldn’t just be the planet, more like at least an entire galaxy, if not more….
hammerspace would also make storing the orbs easyer
Doubt it, since the orbs will demand to be in the same plane as Sydney
Besides, she doesn’t have to hide them anyway. Everyone knows why she’s carrying that tube on her back now
What about the Puma Twins when somehow hidden under their nurses outfits and their bodysuits they stored machine guns…..Puma Twins….::drool::::
Dominion Tank Police! loved that show. wish i still had the model kits for bonaparte and the more massive tanks.
Nah, if you want a tank, go for the Ogre. Reference Steve Jackson’s Games to see what that’s about…
I can’t wait for that monster to show up on my doorstep… 25.2 POUNDS of game!!!…
I’m in the process of building a kitbash of a Mk XXXIII Bolo.
now that I would like to see serial#D-1097-SHV
Surprised Hammerspace, or at least Victoria’s Secret Compartment isn’t a standard superpower. Perhaps one of her pokéballs will do that?
I recall speculating a while ago that one thing Sydney would probably ask for upon joining any military organization is a chance to learn about explosives and demolitions. Just seems in-character for her (IMO) – and a major source of worry for everybody else.
Now, we have the prospect of Sydney wanting to do something even scarier than handling explosives. Sydney trying to learn interdimensional magic? I have a b-a-d feeling about that.
she just THINKS it’s something that CAN be taught, she doesn’t know yet that it’s Dabbler’s cybernetic arm and that it has a teleport device built into it… i think that even as cool as having an arm like that would sound to Sydney, i pretty sure that even her ADHD thought processes would stop and think about it for a moment before answering… as to which WAY she’d answer… no clue, not enough info yet.
I would cut off one or both of my natural arms in a hot second in exchange for awesome super-sciencey cybernetic replacements. Wouldn’t you?
Seeing that last panel had me laughing out loud (and tend to not do that, the ‘out loud’ part, usually it’s more of a silent laugh {gives more of a gut-workout if you keep it internal}) :D
And that was before seeing Maxi’s and Ari’s faces :D
Yeah, just totally stunned. Though whether they’re more stunned at Sydney’s action or Dabbler’s reaction is of course up to debate.
So, what to actually store in hammerspace?
Car, library, food/drink, clothes…
all the stuff from the kleptomaniac habit I’d develop…
747-400
space-shuttle
cruise liner
…
And then some cops would probably want me to empty my pockets.
easy solution. Just put cops in hammerspace too :P
Only after emptying my pockets first and laughing at their faces, of course.
*pulls out an MX Missile* Here you go officer!
A picture of Callahan’s wife Margret!! :-P
(Now lets see how old every one is)
Old enough and loving that Movie XD.
I think the rubberchick and his claim having permit for the bazooka is relevant too…
Singing: “They call me cuba pete, im the king of the rumba beat….”
I think “Did you miss me?” and the above would make formidable superpowers too.
Although HIS array of powers should be kept as far away from Sydney as possible.
Sydney putting on The Mask?
= World-shattering Kaboom
(And I’d be moving to the next multiverse, just to be safe.)
“geeze I thought you you could take a joke! After,all, YOU MARRIED HER!!!! *slap happy slappy*
That’s gotta hurt!
Reminded of this scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGEL2muzPEE
In another comic I’ve been known to read a guy actually has a hammerspace area attached to his head and actually stores hammers, and pudding in it… Among other things…
That Emergency Exit’s Eddie? That guy is awesome.
hammerspace…. it;s where MC Hammer still exists…and is actually cool
only during hammertime
time IS space, at least theoretically, as passing through one leads to moving through the other., so, conversely, Hammertime is also Hammerspace…..unsettling thought, isn’t it?
*SQUISH*
Oh man, I would love to have hammerspace as a power. Never loose anything, never worry about overpacking, never worry about storage space- also shoplifting, but staying on the legal side…
It would be amazing if I could apply hammerspace to people and myself too- like in cartoons when the elephant hides behind the lampost. If a hammerspace power could do that, if you reason this out, you could probably also make a broom closet into an area the size of a mansion. And if I can apply my power to other people, I could hire builders to make a mansion in my broom closet.
Actually hammerspace is more storing stuff elsewhere(with few exceptions, living things tend not to survive well in such storage). The elephant hiding behind the telephone pole is just the “Art of Hiding” which it seems almost everyone in cartoons and anime has (except when they don’t of course, usually when they’re a letcher who’s just been caught).
Think of Hammerspace as more of a Closet, while a Dimensional Pocket is the Room next door.
One hazard in over-using the power is that vast numbers of items tend to accumulate over time. In one of the later Harry Potter books one of the Horcruxes was hidden in the Room of Requirement. It had been used for centuries as a dumping ground for miscellaneous items. Harry and company literally spent months searching for the item they were after.
(But then if they had managed to find it in the first chapter, it would have been a very short book)
Hazard number two: Never try to put a portable hole into a bag of holding. Bad things can happen.
yeah, I had an entire party sucked into the ninth plane of hell when someone in the group did that, but then I was a pretty evil DM
“Get it off!”
Priceless! She is longer a person, she’s an it.
However, giving credit where its due, a lot of people would make the same (or similar) comment.
HEH. As a Succubi, “Get it Off!” could be considered a battle cry, a prime directive, or perhaps a default setting.
In this context? More like the Blue-Screen of Death.
Errr…. didn’t Halo already test her true-sight orb and found it ineffective against Dabler’s glamour if it was not directly targeted at her ?
More so, wasn’t the glamor completely nullified last time halo used her orb ?
No, what she discovered is that it only allows HER to see through illusions, not her clairvoyant projection. Since she’s using her own eyes, it works fine.
As explained last time someone mentioned it: the glamour wasn’t nullified, Dabbles simply dropped it as Sydney could see through it and everyone else in the room knew what she looked like normally
And the glamour/illusion is ‘targeted’ at everyone
Sydnet’s reaction on the bottom just upstaged anything Maxima could threaten Dabbler with.
Now we know Two Words in Space-Elfish.
Now we just have to figure out what they mean.
Mr Comic Writer. Dolly Zoom and its accompanying image rocked my world. That condenses Sydney to a concentrate.
Can someone tell me where in the comic this is from?
https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/wp-content/themes/comicpress/images/page_gfx/harem/port-harem-002.jpg
Believe that may just be an original sketch, or a votecentive
That’s from a banner ad I drew, and the image wound up never being used because it made the banner too big (it was one frame of a 3 or 4 frame animated gif) Here’s the whole thing: https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/pw_cheesecake_harem.jpg
I love the tatoos.
Hubba hubba.
Sort of a “follow the dotted line” thing eh?
I might recommend “Confessions of a D-List Supervillain,” if you like prose super stuff. Its funny at times, sad at times, dark at times, but most importantly heroic at times.
I’ve read the Sentinel series as well, and agree the first book was best.
Also, can I mention I love the comic and how it referenced MSH/FaseRip?
Ahem. Keep up the good work, I enjoy this comic and its details. It is one of the few I read.
Yeah D-List is one of my favorites as well. I enjoyed it so much I went and read one of his other books which was about tweenage girls riding battle unicorns. It was pretty good too. :)
i guess i can be a jerk and point out that her braids are pink during the entire press conference?
Yeah I realized I did that after this page went up. I have a big list of things to go back and fix. :/
it might be easier to keep her braids pink and redo the earliest pages? lol
Recoloring something is usually pretty easy. A lot of times I just have to select it and play with a hue slider. It’s the stuff I need to redraw that will take a lot more time.
Hammerspace.
Amaze-Balls.
Martial Arts.
Science.
Long ago, the four nations lived together in harmony. But all of that changed when the Science Nation attacked. Only the Syndey, master of all four disciplines, could stop them. But when the world needed her most, she was in the infirmary with another self-inflicted injury.
… For she is the AayDeeEchDee-atar !
Nice one, btw. +1
Actually, ‘H’ is spelt ‘Aitch’
Or “Haitch”
Only if you are a certain region of British
I deny your reality and insert my own.
It was a knee jerk because I have a character in DDO with a water elemental companion named EchTwoOh.
And also because Sydney is echi ;)
No, sorry, of course it is spelt Ecchi.
Lol. I believe that is a my trick?. [/smug]
Hey what if one of the unknown powers is use of Hammerspace?
Or a pocket dimension?
Finding out and KNOWING that she’s missed out on it for such a long time would surely tick Syd off.
Wouldn’t it for you?
Or a full-sized dimension? Say Cthulhuspace.
Could be bad, as per the first thought bubble on https://www.grrlpowercomic.com/archives/468
Or it could give her access to a multidimensional dimensionally transcendental superspace, with an 3-dimensional interface that can move between places and even times. The interface might even not look like a 1960’s London police box.
Actually you could turn around and use the change in hair color where a few reporters mention it. Think about it a moment, didn’t Halo just distract her? In some types of magic, like Illusions, you have to keep things in mind all the time and a distraction can easily make details, like hair color slip suddenly slip depending on what specific type of magic is being used to hold said illusion. you could even use such a situation to dare I say it, (dare, dare) add more humor to the situation if you want…
And we know one reporter who, not only would pick up on it but, would not be shy to enquire about/comment on it
* pulls up soap box and stands on it *
This is off topic, bit I would like to point out a major tactical flaw in this week’s episode of ‘Arrow’ last night. A previous comment section brought up the hazard of getting lazy using real team member names in combat.
Oliver Queen had been accused last year of being the ‘Hood’ but managed to get an alibi by having his bodyguard Diggle don the outfit while Ollie was held for questioning. In this week’s fight scene the two are on a city street fighting separate enemies. Queen managed to stun his opponent, and while standing directly over the guy on the ground took out his radio and said ‘Hey Diggle, you OK?”. If that bad guy was even remotely conscious and even remotely intelligent, the Hood’s secret identity ain’t secret no more.
Okay, so maybe I’m the only one, but does it seem to anyone else that Dabbler might actually be flirting with Max in the second panel? That comment about her height almost seems genuine.
She is a succubus. Her flirting does not have an off button. There is only a dial that goes from “overt” to “subtle”.
I just thought it seemed more genuine than normal. More like she really did like her being taller, than just saying it to flirt.
Yeah, did seem to be genuine to me as well (as well as panel 3, with the added inuendo :D)
Both modes also have a small number next to them
’11’
Found a cool, modern, tasty, use of the Dolly Zoom: check it out here, if you dare!! :D
Wow, real co-incidence. I just finished eating one of those. Given that they are unobtainable in Bulgaria and I do not have things imported because of the cost and getting hooked on something that will not always be available, it means that I am not constantly munching on things like that. So a one in a year chance, that nine times out of ten would not pay off as I normally come to the UK at Christmas, not around Halloween.
We get those all-year round, sucks that we have to get the ucky British ones now, the Kiwi version was soooo much better you wouldn’t believe, see how runny the zomcreeme egg’s insides are? That’s what our regular eggs were like (and the yolk was yellow not orangey-pink)
Sounds good.
*Adds Hobbiton to the ‘acceptable tourist destination’ list*
I prefer the caramello eggs myself.
BWAHAhahahahahHAHAHaWheezebwahahahahaHAHAHAHAHa
Oh man there went another chunk of time I feel was not wasted :) – If you Dare link
Decided to do a tally on The List:
Bad Side:
1) Stomach (Falafel incident)
2) Orbs (Tube/Door combo)
3) Car (Tube/Orbs combo)
4) Peggy (Trolling)
5) Powers (No Serendipitous Tumbleweed Activation)
Good Side:
1) Leon (Proper Nerd Cred)
?:
1) Diagram A (Wolverine wedding)
Notable Absentee:
1) Math (slickness)
The List: Assuming that sunlight is already on the list, due to severe weakening effects. Also figuring the orbs made the list much earlier –something like finding out the PewPew starts fires in the woods.
Multiple entries for having sweet powers but being unable to use them regularly. Separate entries for each Chinese food place serving babyfood sauces.
Maybe we should wonder if she needs Hammerspace to store the previous volumes of “the List”, she’s out of room underneath bed and closet –well she does own a comic store after all.
If Dabbler misfires because of her leg being grappled, a ricochet could easily put Sydney back in the patch. And just for fun, it could be the _other_ eye.
And that would mean some Colonel would insist they all wear PPE goggles when in combat or sparring.
(Personal Protective Equipment). Ooh a marketing idea — Ariana gets a bunch of eye patches done up with an “Archon” “A” in gold in the middle…
Nothing to add to the discussion, just wanted to note that I stumbled upon a link here from the Goblins comic forums and immediately read through the archives. Haven’t laughed that hard in awhile; can’t wait for the next update.
Nice to have you with us. Rejoice that Mondays are now something to look forward to!
Thanks! I’m glad you’re enjoying it so far.
So, the cyborg arm is the lower-left one. Hmm, it seems that lower-lefty is always full of tricks.
eagerly awaiting update :-)
No no no, it’s only called hammerspace when it’s hammers. It’s called “katanaspace” when it’s any other deadly weapon. At least that’s the way it worked in the lexicon of the anime club I was in once a zillion years ago.
Then again that might have been before the term “hammerspace” was even coined. We just called it katanaspace….
Dabbler’s green tats seem to be blue here. Is this an example of the color-change-due-to-power-usage thing that comes up later in #237, or just the effect of the yellow orb?
They’re definitely blue here. It is hard to tell as the panel is pretty busy.
“Eala” is old english for hello!
That “dolly zoom” effect was actually pretty good!